Quote from: Zero Talent on August 05, 2015, 16:25

Quote from: gbalex on August 05, 2015, 16:16

Quote from: Hongover on August 05, 2015, 15:43

You've exposed me. I am a SS community leader and my mission is to recruit new contributors by the millions so that our overlord, SS can meet the $104 Million revenue target for the 3rd quarter of 2015.

Our shareholders have not been happy with our linear growth. They want to see exponential growth and in order to do that, we must keep our portfolio fresh and in demand. This will ensure our sustainability and consistency as the market leader and crush all with our steel heel boots, especially the maker of Flash, which has cause more security problems than people can count.

As a SS community leader, I'm going to share what type of photos will be in demand for the next year...adorable rodents. If you have a lot of those in your portfolio, get ready for a killing in 2016. You're welcome!

Re: "in order to do that, we must keep our portfolio fresh and in demand. This will ensure our sustainability and consistency as the market leader"

Words uttered by every fresh naive new contributor.

Please!

Words of an embittered "old school", unable to adapt to a different reality.

Please!

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It must take a special type of denial, arrogance or salesmanship to convince yourself and others; that out of Over 50 Million Images. Your ports contains fresh new content while those who have been at this a long while, have port which contain only old school images.

It is as you put it, or maybe the agencies have a suicidal business plan, hiding their "good old" content from their customers, while forcing them to swallow only krap from "every fresh naive new contributor".

Please!

Quote from: madman on August 04, 2015, 17:51

yes it is too late for microstocking IMO, my revenue continiously down day by day instead of constantly uploaded new images, sorry but that is true..

That really depends on what type of images you're uploading.

The microstock business, or any business for that matter is not that hard to understand. At the end of the day, you need a bit of luck, a bit of skill and a whole lot of execution.

When people do a search for "Pets", one of the contributors on this forum holds the #2 spot on the search results. That image is probably getting over 1000 downloads per year. At the same time, an image with "Pets" on page 2 get less than half of that. An image on page 1000 gets 1/1000 of that. That image, like every image starts near bottom and made its way up to the top.

If the image is amazing, and you keyword it correctly, people will find it. It takes time, but it will start to move up the charts with enough consistent downloads. When it gets up there, it stays up there unless someone makes something even more amazing. But if you're uploading an image and it's just mediocre, and there are 1000 better alternatives, what's the point of uploading that image? Anyone who does that is relying on pure luck and nothing else.

I have seen a number of my images climb the rankings. And they're climbing because they are some of the best in its category...or some of the most unique. The demand in Microstock is very consistent right now, but there is an oversupply. The ones who are reaping the rewards are the people who bring their A-game. Anyone bringing their B or C-game is getting crushed by the A-players.

You are so completely wrong about how the life cycle of an image in micro works.  Images don't gradually rise in searches over time. Top earning images peak very quickly then slide from there earning less each year.

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on August 06, 2015, 12:23

You are so completely wrong about how the life cycle of an image in micro works.  Images don't gradually rise in searches over time. Top earning images peak very quickly then slide from there earning less each year.

If you keep on producing images, they will always be given the chance to appear on the "new" ranks.
Now, if your new images are competitive, they will move up on the "popular" (trendy) ranks.
Next, if your images are really exceptional or truly unique , they will climb the "relevant" ranks.

Each time an image will pop up on these different ranking systems, other images from your port will be offered as alternatives. This is how old images are given a second wind, allowing them to climb, once more, the popular and the relevant hierarchies, or to maintain their position.

This "viral" mechanism built in the search algorithm aims to keep the fresh, trendy and best photos in front of the customers.

So, the key is to keep on producing, indeed, but not just for the sake of increasing your port.
It is paramount to constantly produce high quality images. Each quality image you produce today, is a locomotive for your older images.

If you see your port fading away, you either have to start producing again, or you have to learn how to level up your game and deal with the new, tougher competition, you now have to face on your niche.

Quote from: Zero Talent on August 06, 2015, 13:43

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on August 06, 2015, 12:23

You are so completely wrong about how the life cycle of an image in micro works.  Images don't gradually rise in searches over time. Top earning images peak very quickly then slide from there earning less each year.

If you keep on producing images, they will always be given the chance to appear on the "new" ranks.
Now, if your new images are competitive, they will move up on the "popular" (trendy) ranks.
Next, if your images are really exceptional or truly unique , they will climb the "relevant" ranks.

Each time an image will pop up on these different ranking systems, other images from your port will be offered as alternatives. This is how old images are given a second wind, allowing them to climb, once more, the popular and the relevant hierarchies, or to maintain their position.

This "viral" mechanism built in the search algorithm aims to keep the fresh, trendy and best photos in front of the customers.

So, the key is to keep on producing, indeed, but not just for the sake of increasing your port.
It is paramount to constantly produce high quality images. Each quality image you produce today, is a locomotive for your older images.

If you see your port fading away, you either have to start producing again, or you have to learn how to level up your game and deal with the new, tougher competition, you now have to face on your niche.

How do you know, you have only been at shutterstock a few short months?  Yet you lead people to believe that you know a great deal about how the shutterstock search engine functions.

Your theories are not born out of actual experience, and they have not been true for successful contributors who have been submitting at shutterstock far longer than you have.

You are right, I did jump to a conclusion, your schpiel sounded exactly like Hongover's; who has stated that he is a new contributor. I failed to read your user name.

Yet you recently joined MSG and actively deride "old timers".

Quote from: Zero Talent on July 27, 2015, 17:48

Quote from: Rose Tinted Glasses on July 27, 2015, 15:02

I make a full time go of it on micorstock and I also make a full time go of it with the big boys. It's actually very entertaining to hear little kids who think they know it all and take the piss out of us old timers at every chance they get and yet they are struggling to make it all work out. You are funny. Granted, if you had the skill you would most likely be doing the same thing. Most successful photographers that I know do as it's a no brainer. Nothing stopping you is there?

Ha, ha, I love my regular job and I have no intention to become a full time photographer. I know for sure that I will never be close to make what I normally make, from photography only.

What I find interesting is that, what I get from a weekend hobby seriously competes with what some "old timers" complain about, around here. Still, I would never brag that I have "the skills", since I know that there is always something new to learn, no matter how advanced you believe you are

Mark my words: those "funny little kids", as you condescendingly call us, will eat an ever bigger slice of your pie. And there is nothing you can do about it!

I think the economics for the established sites are very different than the economics for the contributors. There is a lot of demand for images, but the sales might be spread out so thinly and the agencies might take such a big slice of the $ that there isn't enough left for the artists.