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Uncle Pete

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« Reply #75 on: January 17, 2025, 14:20 »
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LA Times: "Laguna Beach adopted a set of fire-resistant construction standards, developed native brush fuel modification standards and greatly increased the amount of water stored at an elevation where only gravity is required to provide pressure to hydrants.

Our fuel modification efforts are moving too slowly. The brush that surrounds and infiltrates our developed areas is no longer in its natural state. It has become an overgrown source of limitless fuel that can burn entire neighborhoods to the ground. "

The usual answer to this kind of better way to prevent fires, before they are firestorms?

"To the editor: Several people are quoted as saying that poor brush clearance was among the reasons the Palisades fire and others have been so bad.

Although preventing huge firestorms is not as simple as implied, elimination of brush can lead to other major problems. Erosion and landslides that can result from "climate whiplash" also cause tremendous damage.

Without a decrease in the concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, we can expect more firestorms and more damaging atmospheric rivers. Those who continue to publicly deny the global warming that is caused by burning fossil fuels should help pay for the recovery from this destruction.

Bill Roundy, Orange"

OK lets not talk about the problem, and instead start shouting about nature, climate change and greenhouse gasses. Maybe someone can explain climate whiplash and how that applies to water in elevated places, better fire resistant homes and clearing brush and the fuel for the fires? But mostly this is how things are in California. People don't want to admit that they built their homes in a prairie that for centuries, was open grass and brush, that burned in a natural way, on a regular basis. And they won't admit that they have to prevent fires, instead of just complaining and blaming some outside forces.

The Native Americans were smart enough to build almost all village sites, on the East side of a river, so when the prairie fires came in the Spring, they had a fire break. No I'm not saying that California has that option, but if they know the history and ecology and natural system of the area, they would have planned to prevent these fires, instead of denial and blame.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2025, 14:28 by Uncle Pete »


« Reply #76 on: January 18, 2025, 20:38 »
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The richest people should pay their fair taxes so that we can have the money to provide firefighting services.
Rep. Maxine Waters Dem.
The truth: CA has the highest top income-tax rate in the country, and the richest already pay more than their fair share The top 1% pay nearly 50% of the tax revenue to the state.

The state claims they didn't cut funding but the mayor of LA did. She diverted money to the homeless and illegals. The first blame goes to the electric company, that provides power for people with electric cars, electric stoves, electric heating and cooling, because CA is banning gas stoves, gas furnaces and gas cars. CA residents want everything both ways, but don't really know what they want.

If the state would clear brush and make fire breaks, at least there would be some chance of keeping these annual fires from spreading and being so devastating. Instead they say "It won't work" and don't try. A never ending list of why they can't prevent these fires, but a long list of blaming climate, blame PG&E, and blame the rich.
the LA fires are an outlier in wildfires & our response to them - they are devastating areas that seemed to be at low risk --
unfortunately "If the state would clear brush and make fire breaks, at least there would be some chance of keeping these annual fires from spreadin" ran into a perfect storm - last year's records rains led to overgrowth orf brush et al, then this year's drought turned it into kindling. 


a major factor we have to deal with tho are people who build in climate-vulnerable areas who are then paid by govt and favorable insurance policies that subsidize their risk. in most year's 95% of wildfire expenditures go to protecting private property

« Reply #77 on: Today at 05:50 »
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New fire erupts in Southern California as thousands remain under evacuation from fast-moving Hughes Fire.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/01/22/us/hughes-fire-los-angeles-county-california



 

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