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« on: September 10, 2014, 03:07 »
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Yesterday, along with the new iPhones, Apple Watch was released.

Is it just me or is it truly impressive? Too many good things to mention, but the one thing that really appeals to me is that they made the effort to enable simpler, pictorial communication between two devices. It makes sense, the screen is too small for typing text. Plust the tapping thing. And the payment thing. The walkie talkie... etc etc.

Can't wait to get one. Which is funny, as I've been avoiding Apple products and the "Apple tax" for the past 6 years. But this is something else, it's their Apple Mac moment all over again, 30 years after 1984. On this one, I'll be happy to buy from Apple again. Anyone else?


« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 03:17 »
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Not to rain on your parade, but I find the Apple Watch ugly beyond believe.

Furthermore I just read that it is not a stand-alone product, but needs a connection to an IPhone for full functionality - which makes it a non-starter for me.

« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2014, 03:29 »
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I find the design truly beautiful. Very sleek and modern. I would wear even if it's not apple watch. I'm certainly getting this next year.

« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2014, 03:37 »
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I love the design. Can't wait to get one.

But I would probably buy a dustbin if it was designed by Jony Ive and explained to me with his cool,smooth voice...
« Last Edit: September 10, 2014, 05:45 by cobalt »

« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2014, 04:06 »
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I think it's amateurish, unattractive and overpriced.  Many people will buy it simply because it's Apple.  Or because they want to be 'first'.  Total waste of money.  Item will be worthless in a couple of years.

Wait for version two, probably in 2016, which should have a slightly larger curved screen and work as a stand-alone unit without needing a phone.

« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2014, 04:13 »
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I tried to think why I should get one, and could not find any reason why I would buy one. I don't even use watches any more, why would I want a thing hanging from my wrist?

iPhone 6 looks nice... that I could buy... :)

« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2014, 04:22 »
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But I would probably by a dustbin if it was designed by Jony Ive and explained to me with his cool,smooth voice...


Oh, but you can... http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/  ;D

« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2014, 04:43 »
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A watch you have to charge everyday - no thanks my Cheap timex watch I use for fishing cost about $20 and its still going with original battery after AT LEAST 6 yrs. AND its waterproof!!!

« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2014, 05:30 »
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Does it tell the time as well?
:)
A tech too far for me. Don't need or want that sort of monitoring. To be fair it's not aimed at old gits like me though.

Shelma1

« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2014, 05:46 »
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I find it redundant, since it only works with an iPhone. So now you need to carry/wear two devices? Meh.

Tror

« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2014, 06:13 »
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Until they release a usable MacPro for professional use and completely eliminate censorship from their software I refuse to touch any other Apple product. Beyond that: Samsung and others released something similar before....

Valo

« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2014, 07:46 »
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Not to rain on your parade, but I find the Apple Watch ugly beyond believe.

Furthermore I just read that it is not a stand-alone product, but needs a connection to an IPhone for full functionality - which makes it a non-starter for me.
Vendor lock-in, the reason I will never ever by an Apple product, not even if it cures cancer.

« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2014, 08:21 »
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I'm not sure it will be "worthless in a couple of years", it might eventually become a collector's item. First edition of the first smartwatch that redefines things just like the Mac did. And just like it happened with the Mac, it will take time for the revolutionary impact to sink in. Apple are the only one that thought this through and don't treat the Watch as a scaled-down phone. The tactile, pictorial nature of it will develop and affect how we think and interact, just you wait! :)

« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2014, 08:58 »
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It doesn't really appeal to me (although I said that when they produced the iPad and I wouldn't be without one now!). It's just another thing to keep the battery charging.

Good article on the Beeb's website on it;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29129039

« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2014, 09:08 »
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I didn't think a smart phone was of much use until I bought one and started using it. I can't see going back to a flip phone for any reason. There will be dozens of competitive models released over the next few years if you don't like this one.

« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2014, 09:21 »
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If you want "real" watch buy something with gears in it, something with a sound of ticking, something that lasts and you will be proud of even after 10 years. Will you get these features from this hyped overpriced iGadged? I refuse to belive so and will stick to my 12 years old but still beautiful Citizen watch :-) Sorry guys, I do not mean to flame but I cannot simple understand some products and the hype around it. Will we be soon buying super duper iTooth brush, iTrousers or iVacuum cleaner communicating with our iSmarthphones to be in and feel cool? Perhaps, perhaps we will :-)

« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2014, 09:46 »
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Nah, not intriguing enough to me.

« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2014, 10:47 »
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will it be possible to buy this online? Never bought a apple porduct. Dont know.

« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2014, 12:21 »
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I have a lot of Apple products and love most of them, most of the time, but I'm completely baffled by the idea that they or anyone else can get lots of people to wear a watch again. I haven't worn a watch in about over a decade and I can't imagine why, with my iPhone always in a pocket, I would have any use for a smart watch.

I know suppliers want to sell me a smart watch, curved TV ('cause 3D TVs went nowhere), an internet connected fridge, etc., but that's their need for cash talking (and I have and love my Nest thermostat; I'm not a technophobe :) )

« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2014, 12:41 »
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this watch looks and feels like a tamagotchi :)

« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2014, 12:49 »
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I can definitely imagine using it for sport etc. Especially when running and exercising in general. Health and fitness is clearly going to be a big market. There are already very good iPhone apps aimed at sports such as the various couch to 5k programs - also Endomondo and the skiing and cycling trackers. Am also very interested in experimenting with developing for it. The latest version of Xcode 6 out today does not yet include support the watch as a development target.

Personally I love analog watches. My favourite timepiece currently is a steel 1961 Omega Constellation with a nicely stitched leather strap. Just spent all my pocket money having it serviced and cleaned. But I really like how understated it is compared with most mens' watches today. I cannot imagine that an Apple watch will still have any value or be worth servicing more than 50 years from now.

Shelma1

« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2014, 12:52 »
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^^^obsolescence is designed right in!

« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2014, 13:25 »
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Wonder what the price on it will be. I was with them until I read that you needed an iphone too. Redundant, expensive...like someone said, I will wait until they make it so it's a watch/phone in one thing. But still, I imagine it will cost $500+.

« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2014, 14:04 »
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Wonder what the price on it will be.

Entry level will be $349. It was in the keynote.

I will wait until they make it so it's a watch/phone in one thing.

Personally I would not want to wear an RF device with the power of a cellphone against my body. Especially if I was in a weak coverage area and the thing was trying to get a signal. The watch by contrast is presumably bluetooth le which is very lower power.

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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2014, 17:22 »
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Apple is so far behind the curve it is ridiculous.

Samsung had the watch last year and the new IP6!

At least two years behind the curve Samsung is the global world leader.

Android had what the IP6 had 2 years ago and Apple is acting as if it is new technology they have come out with .?????


« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2014, 18:26 »
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They are absolutely NOT claiming that what they are doing is new. But their combination of fluid hard and software has been a game changer many times. there were tablets long before apple, but it was the ipad that made them popular, there were mp3 players before the ipod,but the itunes store together with the ipod changed the way people bought music.

Now apple is hoping that together with with the apple payment system, the credit card will be replaced and it looks like the credit card companies hope that apple will bring more secure mobile payments etc...

Nobody has to buy apple, I think especially for geeks it is not always the right company. But for the normal user, that just wants to use technology without having to understand it in detail, they love apple very much.

And of course there already are many smartwatches. But how many have become mainstream and as popular as the ipod?

« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2014, 19:41 »
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I find it redundant, since it only works with an iPhone. So now you need to carry/wear two devices? Meh.

Thats's what they call innovation in appleland :)

« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2014, 20:51 »
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Oh goodie, it's turning into a Mac versus PC war.

« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2014, 21:58 »
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Let's go back to Nikon vs Canon war. Or mirrorless vs dslr. That's probably more relevant to this forum.

Sheriff

« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2014, 22:07 »
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I find the design truly beautiful. Very sleek and modern. I would wear even if it's not apple watch. I'm certainly getting this next year.

'A fool and their money are soon parted'

« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2014, 22:10 »
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I find the design truly beautiful. Very sleek and modern. I would wear even if it's not apple watch. I'm certainly getting this next year.

'A fool and their money are soon parted'

*yawn*

« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2014, 23:03 »
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I think Apple should start designing jewelry. Just put your logo on a bracelet and Apple fans will claim it revolutionary. Apple should be fashion company.

« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2014, 01:37 »
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Apple should be fashion company.

They've recently hired senior execs from Burberry and YSL.

« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2014, 02:20 »
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I think Apple should start designing jewelry. Just put your logo on a bracelet and Apple fans will claim it revolutionary. Apple should be fashion company.

It is a fashion company, has been for almost a decade. That's what we were talking about with buddies, that these iphones are basically jewellery substitutes for women.

Tror

« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2014, 04:45 »
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No Apple versus PC war. Just pure criticism on Apple :D
I am a Mac user since 1998. My first OS was OS7. I was with apple during all those years, had Powerbooks, G4s, G5s, MacPros , Macbook, ibooks etc. For me, Apple started to get uninteresting with the iphone. I use macs for working. I like MacOSX. I do not give a s**t about iOS or the millions of guys who thinks having a apple device is cool. I prefer having a Terminal on my machine and as much ram as I can. Apple continiously ignores professional needs and thus those people who stood with Apple during the tough times. Last year I had no other option than switching to various other machines. My workstation now is a Hackintosh. Apple had no professional workstation to offer which was relevant. Most machines of the keyworders/uploaders are now on Ubunutu. Apple failed to provide a reliable WiFi network technology. Broken FTP pipes all the time, Wifi disconnects  on 10.8...etc. This is a real problem if you send out 80GB every day.

Why should I care now about a watch?

« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2014, 05:00 »
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it's their Apple Mac moment all over again, 30 years after 1984. On this one, I'll be happy to buy from Apple again. Anyone else?

I think that was when they first released iphone..

since then, they were a bit late for pretty much everything..

« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2014, 06:50 »
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No Apple versus PC war. Just pure criticism on Apple :D
I am a Mac user since 1998. My first OS was OS7. I was with apple during all those years, had Powerbooks, G4s, G5s, MacPros , Macbook, ibooks etc. For me, Apple started to get uninteresting with the iphone. I use macs for working. I like MacOSX. I do not give a s**t about iOS or the millions of guys who thinks having a apple device is cool. I prefer having a Terminal on my machine and as much ram as I can. Apple continiously ignores professional needs and thus those people who stood with Apple during the tough times. Last year I had no other option than switching to various other machines. My workstation now is a Hackintosh. Apple had no professional workstation to offer which was relevant. Most machines of the keyworders/uploaders are now on Ubunutu. Apple failed to provide a reliable WiFi network technology. Broken FTP pipes all the time, Wifi disconnects  on 10.8...etc. This is a real problem if you send out 80GB every day.

Why should I care now about a watch?

I've been going in the opposite direction. Four years ago I needed a new laptop and, at the time, hadn't experienced modern Apple products. I therefore couldn't understand why the Apple equivalent cost 3x more than the apparently equivalent Toshiba. So I bought the Toshiba. Three years later, one change of motherboard and endless waiting for 'lock-up' events to finish, the Toshiba lies idle as worthless junk. I bought a Macbook Pro instead and just wish I'd bought it the first time around. I now understand why it costs 3x more. Because it is 10x better.

I also bought two non-Apple MP3 players (believing the reviews on Amazon). They proved to a waste of money too which again I only realised after I eventually stumped up for an iPod. I'd have saved myself a lot of money, a lot of time and a lot of frustration if I'd have gone Apple from the start.

I still have a PC running XP. I use it only for processing images just because I'm used to my workflow with PS CS (2003) which obviously wouldn't work on an Apple machine. If and when it dies I'm very unlikely to replace it with another Windows-based product.

I don't particularly like Apple being so dominant (and expensive) in their field but their products are a joy to use and they make my life easier. I love making a change  to my diary or contacts on one device and, almost miraculously, the change seamlessly appears on my Macbook, iPad and iPhone. What's not to like?

stocked

« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2014, 07:00 »
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My first OS was OS7.
Same here really liked the option to gave folders different colors but I switched to Windows many years ago and never looked back. IMHO Windows and Apples OS are basically the same nowadays.

« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2014, 07:25 »
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I was an Apple hater. I got my Macbook Pro 3 years ago that changed everything. My first 2 smartphones were Samsung. I switched to iPhone 5  and wonder why I bothered with Android phones. I'm an iConvert.

Shelma1

« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2014, 08:16 »
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I'm also an Apple user, and hated using a clunky PC so much at my last job that I carried my Air to work with me every day.

I'm just underwhelmed by the watch (though I think the watch face design is cute). And the fist-pumping and screaming from the audience was kinda creepy.

Like many others, I gave up wearing a watch years ago, since I carry an iPhone.

« Reply #40 on: September 11, 2014, 09:54 »
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I think that was when they first released iphone..

since then, they were a bit late for pretty much everything..
ah, but fashionably late.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2014, 13:37 »
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That's where I was headed, not all the rest of it, but who wears a watch to tell time anymore? So i or Android who wants some Dick Tracy wrist thing, that needs charging daily, strapped on their arm? It's more trendy and fashion and not really functional or practical at this point.

To Mac folks in general, not specifically you... I'm a PC user and happy. There are all kinds of people in the world and we all don't have the same computer, car, pets, clothes, or shoes. The only thing that ever got me about the iNzi's was they are like the one true religion and can't seem to understand, everyone isn't a blind follower of their computer iReligion. LOL Don't come Bible thumping on my doorstep on Saturday morning, telling me about the rapture or signs from the heavens and don't keep telling me how "My Mac is better!" Thank You

And there Ain't No Easter Bunny!  ;)


I'm also an Apple user, and hated using a clunky PC so much at my last job that I carried my Air to work with me every day.

I'm just underwhelmed by the watch (though I think the watch face design is cute). And the fist-pumping and screaming from the audience was kinda creepy.

Like many others, I gave up wearing a watch years ago, since I carry an iPhone.

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« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2014, 14:35 »
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OMG!!!!!!!

A WATCH!!!!!!

What a friggin brilliant genius of an idea!!!!!!!

Man having to look all the way down my arm at my phone is finally over !!!!!!

Like whoda ever thunk of such an ingenious idea!!!!!!!

Like now all I need to do is look at my wrist!!!!!


Late night comedy had a blast with that one last night as if this was the first ever made anywhere in the entire universe, a never before heard of concept or idea that only Apple could dream up!!!!!

That's where I was headed, not all the rest of it, but who wears a watch to tell time anymore? So i or Android who wants some Dick Tracy wrist thing, that needs charging daily, strapped on their arm? It's more trendy and fashion and not really functional or practical at this point.

To Mac folks in general, not specifically you... I'm a PC user and happy. There are all kinds of people in the world and we all don't have the same computer, car, pets, clothes, or shoes. The only thing that ever got me about the iNzi's was they are like the one true religion and can't seem to understand, everyone isn't a blind follower of their computer iReligion. LOL Don't come Bible thumping on my doorstep on Saturday morning, telling me about the rapture or signs from the heavens and don't keep telling me how "My Mac is better!" Thank You

And there Ain't No Easter Bunny!  ;)


I'm also an Apple user, and hated using a clunky PC so much at my last job that I carried my Air to work with me every day.

I'm just underwhelmed by the watch (though I think the watch face design is cute). And the fist-pumping and screaming from the audience was kinda creepy.

Like many others, I gave up wearing a watch years ago, since I carry an iPhone.

« Reply #43 on: September 12, 2014, 14:51 »
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It's more trendy and fashion and not really functional or practical at this point.

Apart from everything else, it's a health and fitness monitor. In that respect it's a sensor which can then be linked to apps running on our computers (for most people their iPhone is increasingly going to be their personal computer). So it has potential immediate utility with respect to many people's sport/fitness/exercise routines - many of which will already today involve iPhone apps.

I would also expect to see the data it provides being made optionally available over time to our healthcare providers - and, perhaps more importantly, our insurance companies. I think we can look toward a day when the amount of data we provide affects the cost of our premiums.

(And if you step out of line or think something negative it will know - and it will zap you).
« Last Edit: September 12, 2014, 14:53 by bunhill »

Uncle Pete

« Reply #44 on: September 12, 2014, 20:07 »
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 ;D Oh Oh, I think I'm stepping, good thing I don't have a watch that monitors my chocolate or whiskey intake! Maybe the Singapore style rice noodles with curry will cancel out some of the Scotch?

Do I want to be monitored by someone else? I know, I don't care about cameras, traffic or street or stores. NSA and FBI can read my mail, I don't mind, but would I willingly give an insurance company my data, so they could potentially raise my rates?

What next, grocery store link to what we buy, reported via the phone, so they can track out eating habits? I'm not in favor. How about a car monitor that watches my driving habits and they raise my rates based on that. Seems nothing ever lowers rates, does it?

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Android - 2011 - what can I say. It's already been done for three years before the big "i" got it.

Doesn't need two devices to make it happen. However I heard a rumor that i was going to invent the wheel in 2010...  ;)


It's more trendy and fashion and not really functional or practical at this point.

Apart from everything else, it's a health and fitness monitor. In that respect it's a sensor which can then be linked to apps running on our computers (for most people their iPhone is increasingly going to be their personal computer). So it has potential immediate utility with respect to many people's sport/fitness/exercise routines - many of which will already today involve iPhone apps.

I would also expect to see the data it provides being made optionally available over time to our healthcare providers - and, perhaps more importantly, our insurance companies. I think we can look toward a day when the amount of data we provide affects the cost of our premiums.

(And if you step out of line or think something negative it will know - and it will zap you).

Valo

« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2014, 03:21 »
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I see the Sheriff has resigned, or has he been taken out by the out-laws?

« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2014, 05:11 »
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Do I want to be monitored by someone else? I know, I don't care about cameras, traffic or street or stores. NSA and FBI can read my mail, I don't mind, but would I willingly give an insurance company my data, so they could potentially raise my rates?

I think that this sort of health stat monitoring (including what we eat and drink) will become normal. Not just via Apple. Most people will ask why they should pay the same for their insurance as someone who is, say,  overweight, drinks too much, smokes or never takes exercise. I am not advocating this - but I think it will arrive gradually, inevitably. My guess is that it will typically be a scheme which you can join - which the insurance company will offer in return for lower rates.

What next, grocery store link to what we buy, reported via the phone, so they can track out eating habits? I'm not in favor. How about a car monitor that watches my driving habits and they raise my rates based on that.

Anyone who uses a store card, plastic or shops online is already contributing their buying habits to the data which is known about them and which is available to buy. Unless you constantly use cash that data can probably already provide good information about what you are eating. Cash is gradually being phased out.

In many countries your car insurance rates will already be based on your driving history. Data from the car is an inevitable next step.

(That heart rate app you referenced works by you putting your finger on the camera. It's different from something which monitors and records your heart beat.)

« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2014, 05:29 »
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The lines of geeks outside Apple stores in their Minecraft and Star Wars tee shirts who will die on the spot if they fail to get their hands on the thing right now, this very minute, always make for a good editorial photo op.

« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2014, 07:52 »
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Do I want to be monitored by someone else? I know, I don't care about cameras, traffic or street or stores. NSA and FBI can read my mail, I don't mind, but would I willingly give an insurance company my data, so they could potentially raise my rates?


I think that this sort of health stat monitoring (including what we eat and drink) will become normal. Not just via Apple. Most people will ask why they should pay the same for their insurance as someone who is, say,  overweight, drinks too much, smokes or never takes exercise. I am not advocating this - but I think it will arrive gradually, inevitably. My guess is that it will typically be a scheme which you can join - which the insurance company will offer in return for lower rates.

What next, grocery store link to what we buy, reported via the phone, so they can track out eating habits? I'm not in favor. How about a car monitor that watches my driving habits and they raise my rates based on that.


Anyone who uses a store card, plastic or shops online is already contributing their buying habits to the data which is known about them and which is available to buy. Unless you constantly use cash that data can probably already provide good information about what you are eating. Cash is gradually being phased out.



and they can track where you walk in the store via your cellphone!
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/15/business/attention-shopper-stores-are-tracking-your-cell.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

tinfoil hats people!  don't leave home without them ;)

Uncle Pete

« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2014, 08:30 »
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No disagreement bunhill, and if I had the money I'd be editing on a desktop iMac.

Stores and tracking (how did we get there from heart rate monitor?)  ;)

It was reported that Angry Birds and Brightest Flashlight, both install tracking software that monitors your travel. And it's in the license for the FREE app. I'm sure there are others.

I don't know why a store would have to disclose that they were receiving radio waves. Nice gesture, but anything we broadcast is open to being analyzed. There are laws now and the conversations are scrambled, but the fact that your phone is pinging out for a tower, is hardly secret.

http://xenophilius.wordpress.com/2014/01/27/nsa-using-google-maps-angry-birds-to-monitor-phone-users/

« Reply #50 on: September 13, 2014, 09:15 »
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Big Brother gets bigger every day. Sad.

« Reply #51 on: September 13, 2014, 10:18 »
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and they can track where you walk in the store via your cellphone!
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/15/business/attention-shopper-stores-are-tracking-your-cell.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Apple's iOS 8 which is about to be officially released randomizes MAC address whilst the device is scanning for wifi networks. This is about protecting users from being tracked for marketing purposes in public.

iOS 8 to stymie trackers and marketers with MAC address randomization


People often complain that Apple devices are more expensive than competing products. Part of that is about their business model not being primarily built around advertising and marketing. Apple customers are the people who buy the devices. Some other products are more about gathering data which can be sold for marketing use.

« Reply #52 on: September 13, 2014, 14:54 »
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It was reported that Angry Birds and Brightest Flashlight, both install tracking software that monitors your travel. And it's in the license for the FREE app. I'm sure there are others.


You know what they say ... 'If You're Not Paying, You're The Product'

« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2014, 14:58 »
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It was reported that Angry Birds and Brightest Flashlight, both install tracking software that monitors your travel. And it's in the license for the FREE app. I'm sure there are others.


You know what they say ... 'If You're Not Paying, You're The Product'

and if you are paying you still might be the product

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« Reply #54 on: September 13, 2014, 21:39 »
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And the only way to not be tracked or listened to if you have a cell phone of any type is to remove the battery and the SIM card.

This too has been known about and going on for years  and years.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #55 on: September 13, 2014, 22:57 »
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And the SIM card? What. Is the SIM card RFID also?

Just for the additional on that, RFID has a very short range, maybe five feet optimal. Which would be claimed as ten feet, because that's a radius not a distance. Kind of like measuring a screen on the diagonal to make it sound bigger.  :)

Let me make this clear. If you pull the battery, there's nothing to track. You don't need to remove the SIM card as well.

I stopped wearing a wrist watch sometime in the 70s. I kept breaking them. Last one destroyed on my forehead + six stitches, diving into a lake. Since then pocket watch or just use my inner time. There are also clocks in devices, cars, on walls and pretty much everywhere, except Las Vegas.  ;)

Buck Rodgers, Dick Tracy, whatever. It's a nice expensive  iToy.

And the only way to not be tracked or listened to if you have a cell phone of any type is to remove the battery and the SIM card.

This too has been known about and going on for years  and years.

« Reply #56 on: September 16, 2014, 10:33 »
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Apple is a remarkable dog and pony show.  The watch is ugly and unnecessary.  The computers are great and for good reason.
From the ground up they were build with users in mind and particularly in our demanding world, they out did PCs by miles.  But that's simply not the case with phones or this ridiculous watch.  I have a Samsung phone for years and couldn't be happier.  But to each his own.  If you to impress yourself, go ahead.  If not, THINK DIFFERENT.


 

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