Author Topic: Bonafide College Student (Read 23080 times)

LSD72 · « **on:** August 20, 2012, 16:01 »

Been a while since I posted on this subject.

All the monies have been paid up and I go in 2 day to get my books ($530 for 4 of them). Just drove over today to handle some small stuff like parking pass and I.D. I go to school for my first day on Monday the 27th.

Maybe I should have my mom give me a wake up call on that day. I bet she would like to hear the old phrase again... "Oh mom. Let me go back to sleep. But I don't wanna go to school today."

ShadySue · « **Reply #1 on:** August 20, 2012, 16:03 »

Quote from: LSD72 on August 20, 2012, 16:01

Been a while since I posted on this subject.

All the monies have been paid up and I go in 2 day to get my books ($530 for 4 of them). Just drove over today to handle some small stuff like parking pass and I.D. I go to school for my first day on Monday the 27th.

Maybe I should have my mom give me a wake up call on that day. I bet she would like to hear the old phrase again... "Oh mom. Let me go back to sleep. But I don't wanna go to school today."

Enjoy. What an opportunity. "Youth is wasted on the Young".

leaf · « **Reply #2 on:** August 20, 2012, 16:23 »

congrats. What are you going for?
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answered my own question.. welding.

Looks like fun - enjoy

cathyslife · « **Reply #3 on:** August 20, 2012, 16:24 »

I'm sure you will enjoy it!

lisafx · « **Reply #4 on:** August 20, 2012, 16:38 »

Congratulations! Welding is a really smart move. Bet you will have a great time

LSD72 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 20, 2012, 17:50 »

Thanks everyone. This ought to be a fun course. I get to do Manly things like make fire and shape metal. (cue tool time Tim Allen grunts)

Mantis · « **Reply #6 on:** August 20, 2012, 18:47 »

I had a math professor, a nice looking woman, who was a welder. She told me that she made way more money welding than teaching. This was in 1982, a little while ago. In 1983 she wasn't at the college anymore, took a full time job welding, and also doing the specialty of aluminum. Bug bucks in that field if you know what you're doing.

Good luck and work hard.

LSD72 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 20, 2012, 19:45 »

I know where to get some big bucks if I knew how to TIG right now on aluminum. Got the word on it already. This course covers it all and throws in Gasline and Pipeline welding.

I would actually like a Photog Buddy's job. He is an Engineer. Not behind a drafting table or computer. He drives trains for a Major Company. Plus he is a few years younger than me. That would be the job there.

LSD72 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 27, 2012, 19:17 »

First day down. Only 53 long questions for homework...lol. Tomorrows and Fridays classes should bring in harder homework so..blah. Should be in the shop in full gear starting Wednesday. 16 more weeks to go for this semester.

EmberMike · « **Reply #9 on:** August 27, 2012, 20:46 »

Sounds cool. I can definitely appreciate the move to a specialized skill like that. I feel like that's going to be a good field to be in for the long term.

I have no idea where my career is going but I could definitely see myself in a non-computer job in the future. Can't take much more of staring at a screen all day long.

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #10 on:** August 27, 2012, 21:43 »

Being an Auto tech i know welding but never went to School for it, I was Schooled hand's on by the man who taught me Automotive repair.

And learned the hard way.

The first one at the time was what was called "Stick" and there is a reason behind the name other than it is done with a welding stick.

Then one day many many years later there was this thing called MIG and how sweet it was.

TIG i haven't done yet but will one day.

And i also worked with a welder who worked for the largest ship building company on the east coast that did it all like you are describing including underwater welding and he taught me some tricks.

Did you know that you can weld a cast iron engine block? there is a way to do it properly.

And he told me something about welds.

He said he had seen picture perfect welds that couldn't stand up to the Xray test and had seen some of the worst welds ever that would pass the Xray test every time.

Good luck and enjoy.

Just remember to wear the helmet and you will get a sunburn and the gasses it puts off will get you high.

LSD72 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 28, 2012, 06:41 »

I am used to stick welding from my former time as a Millwright. I have had my share of sunburns and flashburn (only once for that.. then I learned...lol). Got all brand new gear now. I have not used it yet but eager to try out the Auto Dark helmet with the wide field of view. I also have a Pipeliners Helmet as a backup but need (or want) some gold lenses for it. Normal Green Jacket then another Jacket with leather arms for vertical and Overhead. I am not sure if they have the Xrays but it is possible since they teach and test for Pipeline Welding certifications.

I only have ot go for an hour today for the Quality and Inspection class. Labs will be Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and the Instructor says in the Cert Course and they AAS Degrees for Welders, we get the most times out of all in the school making sparks. One class has AAS's from others (Auto, Mechanical Engineering and so forth) that just do the general welding. We get general and advanced hence the most time in the booths.

We are dead beside the local airport hangers so down time might mean some photo ops. Will also ask the instructor if I can do some shooting of others welding. Don't have any like that in my port. That reminds me to sometime look through the book to see if there are shots from anyone around here or Alamy.

EmberMike · « **Reply #12 on:** August 28, 2012, 09:12 »

The closest thing I've gotten to welding is using an acetylene torch in art school. I built a bird nest out of nails, connected with flux. Is that considered "welding"? Or is there a name for it?

Had a lot of fun doing it, learned quickly that nails break and pop when overheated, and fortunately I was wearing gloves when a piece popped and landed on my wrist.

I was the only person in that class that would use the torch. Think that earned me some bonus points with the teacher, since he was a metal guy. He does those large scale metal sculptures.

And I'll always remember that class a little more than most because that's where I was on 9/11.

LSD72 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 28, 2012, 09:33 »

Quote from: EmberMike on August 28, 2012, 09:12

The closest thing I've gotten to welding is using an acetylene torch in art school. I built a bird nest out of nails, connected with flux. Is that considered "welding"? Or is there a name for it?

Had a lot of fun doing it, learned quickly that nails break and pop when overheated, and fortunately I was wearing gloves when a piece popped and landed on my wrist.

I was the only person in that class that would use the torch. Think that earned me some bonus points with the teacher, since he was a metal guy. He does those large scale metal sculptures.

And I'll always remember that class a little more than most because that's where I was on 9/11.

That would be Oxy Acetylene Welding basically. You can cut and braze with it too. The main torch we used on jobsites though was Oxy Propane. Guess Propane is a cheaper fuel gas. With metals though, you got to be aware of content. If the nails contained Zinc, it would give off harmful fumes and you should really use a respirator or venting for the fumes before it reaches your face. I had a piece before that I was heating to bend.. propped on a concrete block. The heat traveled and the block popped launching the metal into the air and onto my back where I received a slight burn. I already learned something new about Acetylene last night that I did not know. The reason why an Acetylene tank should not be use until vertical for 4 hours after being stored on its side. I had always just been told not to do it. Never the reason for it. Acetone.

I am really open to learn all the info I can with this... not just the doing part. Job Placement for the Welding Cert course and the AAS is at 100% with this school too. Very nice.

And to note: The Instructor graduated from there in Welding and got his job by request of the Instructor who just retired last year.

EmberMike · « **Reply #14 on:** August 28, 2012, 10:02 »

Quote from: LSD72 on August 28, 2012, 09:33

...With metals though, you got to be aware of content. If the nails contained Zinc, it would give off harmful fumes and you should really use a respirator or venting for the fumes before it reaches your face...

I was working under a hood, which hopefully took any fumes up and out before they reached me.

Quote from: LSD72 on August 28, 2012, 09:33

...I am really open to learn all the info I can with this... not just the doing part. Job Placement for the Welding Cert course and the AAS is at 100% with this school too. Very nice...

I'm not surprised. I think things like welding are only going to be in higher demand going forward. Everyone wants the cushy computer jobs, working on laptops and tablets all day. Fewer and fewer people are going into skilled trades and crafts. Schools don't help matters. It's not very common to ever hear someone encourage anyone to become a welder, and more likely you hear suggestions like programmer, accountant, lawyer, doctor, etc. Now everyone wants social media jobs. People think, "I can get paid to be on facebook? Sure, sign me up!"

Which is all well and good, but it's going to leave a big gap in fields that are critical to the infrastructure of our economy, namely the creation and building of new things (buildings, machines, civil structures, etc).

The plus side, of course, is that for people like you, the jobs will be plentiful and hopefully will be increasingly lucrative.

tab62 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 28, 2012, 10:30 »

what about going to school for a cushy photography job say working for iStock

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #16 on:** August 28, 2012, 10:41 »

Rosebud, brazing and cutting tips.

Chained tanks to a cart and when rolling the cart should a tank fall the first thing to do is hit the ground dont try to run!

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #17 on:** August 28, 2012, 11:15 »

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EmberMike · « **Reply #18 on:** August 28, 2012, 11:41 »

Quote from: tab62 on August 28, 2012, 10:30

what about going to school for a cushy photography job say working for iStock

Working at istock or SS HQ is probably the only cushy job left in this business.

Decent pay, benefits, office masseuse, etc. And no random pay cuts.

That or your name has to be Yuri, Lise, Sean, Andres, etc...

RacePhoto · « **Reply #19 on:** August 28, 2012, 12:34 »

Let me help. Ramen Noodles, Mac and Cheese, pot pies and popcorn were my main food groups in college.

Back then a can of tuna was 19 cents, and my big splurge was a box of Triscuits and some Colby cheese.

Best Wishes, school will almost always guarantee a better job. And you are doing what many people miss. Learning a trade will stay with you forever!

LSD72 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 28, 2012, 13:09 »

Quote from: tab62 on August 28, 2012, 10:30

what about going to school for a cushy photography job say working for iStock

Why Istock? Wasn't it Gettys hiring a photog last year sometime. Forget the sub company... get to the big times

Just got back from the Quality and inspection class. That teacher is cool as hell. It's going to be a fun class! Maybe that class can qualify me as a Stock reviewer...lmao!!!

JPSDK · « **Reply #21 on:** August 28, 2012, 14:22 »

yes RUX, you weld cast iron by glowing it, so the heat does not float away from the place you weld.
That means red hot.

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #22 on:** August 28, 2012, 18:05 »

Quote from: JPSDK on August 28, 2012, 14:22

yes RUX, you weld cast iron by glowing it, so the heat does not float away from the place you weld.
That means red hot.

Dam Jens your good!

gostwyck · « **Reply #23 on:** August 28, 2012, 19:16 »

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on August 28, 2012, 18:05

Quote from: JPSDK on August 28, 2012, 14:22
yes RUX, you weld cast iron by glowing it, so the heat does not float away from the place you weld.
That means red hot.
Dam Jens your good!

Have I got a dodgy link here? I thought I was on the microstock photography forum but everyone seems to be talking about welding.

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #24 on:** August 28, 2012, 19:32 »

Quote from: gostwyck on August 28, 2012, 19:16

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on August 28, 2012, 18:05
Quote from: JPSDK on August 28, 2012, 14:22
yes RUX, you weld cast iron by glowing it, so the heat does not float away from the place you weld.
That means red hot.
Dam Jens your good!

Have I got a dodgy link here? I thought I was on the microstock photography forum but everyone seems to be talking about welding.

Well this is
Off Topic

LSD72 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 28, 2012, 19:33 »

But the topic is welding... so do we need to be off of that topic here?

JPSDK · « **Reply #26 on:** August 30, 2012, 09:06 »

we can let it drift into the hardening of steel.
Thats an interesting topic.

It gives me shivers, when I see how "swordsmen" in movies mistreat their swords. They are likely to put the tip into flames and they always sort of stick the sword into the ground.
How stupid is that?

No wonder that they have to sit and sharpen it for several days before they go to war.

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #27 on:** August 30, 2012, 10:22 »

Quote from: JPSDK on August 30, 2012, 09:06

we can let it drift into the hardening of steel.
Thats an interesting topic.

It gives me shivers, when I see how "swordsmen" in movies mistreat their swords. They are likely to put the tip into flames and they always sort of stick the sword into the ground.
How stupid is that?

No wonder that they have to sit and sharpen it for several days before they go to war.

Then there is air cooling, water cooling, heat treating, galvanizing all to get the correct temper for the use of the material you are working with.

JPSDK · « **Reply #28 on:** August 30, 2012, 10:29 »

the most advanced hardening I have ever seen was the "Cow horn" hardening.
I wont explain, it would take 100 pages of science.

Can be replaced by pumpkins. And easy.
The pumpkin hardening of steel:

You take your ret hot glowing sword or something.
ANd chop it into a pumpkin.
There are fumes, they are steaming.

When the fumes begin to not smell of steam, but of burned pumpkin.
Then you have hardened your sword, and if the pumpkin is long enough everything is fine.
It is now you take the metal out of the pumpkin and throw it into the swimmingpool.
To test it, if it worked. You just bend it and hit it with some hardened steel, like a fancy "japanees knife". You can hear from the sound if its well tempered and clean. You can also hear how hard it is.
If you doubt what I am saying, you can go and play with the knives in your kitchen. They will produce the correct sounds, and if you remember the price, You can correlate price, sound and hardness.

many knives are not tempered, they cheat. And you can easily hear it.

RacePhoto · « **Reply #29 on:** August 30, 2012, 10:43 »

Or get a Rockwell hardness tester...

I love pre-replies to messages that are after the response. (whatever I meant?)

http://www.wilson-hardness.com/resources/testmethods/rockwelltesting.aspx

JPSDK · « **Reply #30 on:** August 30, 2012, 10:49 »

What is that?

usually, over here, we test hardness by the sparks a piece of metal produces.

Like, red sparks of the second order is high carbon steel.
are they yelow, then molybdane is involved.

LSD72 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 30, 2012, 17:28 »

Quote from: RacePhoto on August 30, 2012, 10:43

Or get a Rockwell hardness tester...

I love pre-replies to messages that are after the response. (whatever I meant?)

http://www.wilson-hardness.com/resources/testmethods/rockwelltesting.aspx

Speaking of Rockwell...


Rockwell Rock Remix - Somebody's Watching Me

LSD72 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 31, 2012, 18:32 »

1st week down and I am only up to my knees in homework. This friday night class has 2 assignments due by sunday night on the inter-college online system. Guess I better get to hopping on this stuff if I want some free time this weekend.

I am liking it so far and the Instructors seem to be cool and helpful for everyone.

One week down, 15 more to go for the semester.

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