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Capitalism Is The Crisis (Full Movie)

Actually, they all fail eventually and get replaced by.... capitalism.

Surely capitalism has been the norm since at least the invention of money and probably since the invention of the concept of storing wealth in goods (such as grain). As soon as people can acquire capital, they want to use it to develop and protect the status that wealth confers.

And I can't be bothered to watch the film either. If it is an attack on capitalism then Tror should bear in mind that stock photography exists to serve one of the most quintessential capitalist activities of all - advertising - which is nothing more than investing capital to try to get people to give  you money for things that you probably don't really need. If you love being a stock photographer you can't hate capitalism.

At first, I do not like to mix up too many emotions in those objective themes. It is not about hate or love. It is about a subject. Second, this movie does not represent my personal opinion, but I think knowledge is power and in my humble experience it never hurts to look closer at a subject which pretty much dominates our world. Third, IMHO, capitalism is the ultima ratio at the moment, but the WAY it is done is destructive.

It seems to be pretty obvious that many people replying haven`T even watched the documentary and just try to judge it because of the title...what are you afraid of?

Capitalism has not ideology, that is only free market based on demand and supply!
So criminal is something other, sometimes unrecognizable, especially on free market ...

We can talk about criminal of high position but not about crisis in capitalism...
Capitalism gives opportunity for robbery, but as itself it is not generator of crisis.

The actual trend of capitalism is killing democracy, transforming these countries having a huge debt, but having the possibility to print money as they need and when they need, in dictatorships�

The actual trend of capitalism is killing democracy, transforming these countries having a huge debt, but having the possibility to print money as they need and when they need, in dictatorships�

You are describing the USA with your comment, intentionally or not, but the USA is not really a dictatorship, nor even close to it. Not defending their money printing shenanigans by the way.

I caught a bit of this programme and this 3 minute clip is worth watching.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00z0yb2

If it is an attack on capitalism then Tror should bear in mind that stock photography exists to serve one of the most quintessential capitalist activities of all - advertising - which is nothing more than investing capital to try to get people to give  you money for things that you probably don't really need. If you love being a stock photographer you can't hate capitalism.

Sorry but you are wrong completely,,  if for example u u pre-advertising a Permaculture farm and its products in your photos , you are doing absolutely no favor to capitalism and its food propaganda, food is something that all of us still need and if its healthy produced in natural environment without use of pesticides and other s..t even better. And if u or me or someone third is promoting that trough the chain of capitalism he can use its positive methods to promote thing that can make it better.

You are involved in creation of market...you pick whats behind the lens when u press the shutter and any thematic can sell if the photo is good enough. And u stand better chances to make a good photo if u shoot what u like that when u shoot because u have to because u follow the needs of the market.

Quote from: Tror on July 05, 2013, 05:13

what are you afraid of?

I'm afraid of the amount of work that won't be done during the 1 1/2 hours that I spend watching! 

Lol, that regulary prevents me from sleeping

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 04, 2013, 22:44

If it is an attack on capitalism then Tror should bear in mind that stock photography exists to serve one of the most quintessential capitalist activities of all - advertising - which is nothing more than investing capital to try to get people to give  you money for things that you probably don't really need. If you love being a stock photographer you can't hate capitalism.

Sorry but you are wrong completely,,  if for example u u pre-advertising a Permaculture farm and its products in your photos , you are doing absolutely no favor to capitalism and its food propaganda, food is something that all of us still need and if its healthy produced in natural environment without use of pesticides and other s..t even better. And if u or me or someone third is promoting that trough the chain of capitalism he can use its positive methods to promote thing that can make it better.

You are involved in creation of market...you pick whats behind the lens when u press the shutter and any thematic can sell if the photo is good enough. And u stand better chances to make a good photo if u shoot what u like that when u shoot because u have to because u follow the needs of the market.

And who says your lovely sustainable crops shot won't appear on a Monsanto advert for round-up ready?  Or maybe it will be used by Hilton Hotels to encourage tourists to buy hotel-based environmental tours. You are feeding images to the advertising industry with no control over usage and the overwhelming objective of advertisers is to boost their business profits. 

Like it or not, you are feeding and profiting from the capitalist system.

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 06, 2013, 10:28

Like it or not, you are feeding and profiting from the capitalist system.

So we have to be outside a system to critique it? Only non-istockers allowed to talk about what they are doing?

Personally I don't see problems with Capitalism, but I see many problems with corporations and how they behave.  What is needed is a way to bring them under control...though I don't have any idea about how to accomplish this.

I completely agree. Any system can be abused. And at the moment capitalism is a abused system. Criticism and being aware of the critical attributes is a first step in curing it.

Quote from: Lizard on July 05, 2013, 22:29

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 04, 2013, 22:44

If it is an attack on capitalism then Tror should bear in mind that stock photography exists to serve one of the most quintessential capitalist activities of all - advertising - which is nothing more than investing capital to try to get people to give  you money for things that you probably don't really need. If you love being a stock photographer you can't hate capitalism.

Sorry but you are wrong completely,,  if for example u u pre-advertising a Permaculture farm and its products in your photos , you are doing absolutely no favor to capitalism and its food propaganda, food is something that all of us still need and if its healthy produced in natural environment without use of pesticides and other s..t even better. And if u or me or someone third is promoting that trough the chain of capitalism he can use its positive methods to promote thing that can make it better.

You are involved in creation of market...you pick whats behind the lens when u press the shutter and any thematic can sell if the photo is good enough. And u stand better chances to make a good photo if u shoot what u like that when u shoot because u have to because u follow the needs of the market.

And who says your lovely sustainable crops shot won't appear on a Monsanto advert for round-up ready? Or maybe it will be used by Hilton Hotels to encourage tourists to buy hotel-based environmental tours. You are feeding images to the advertising industry with no control over usage and the overwhelming objective of advertisers is to boost their business profits. 

Like it or not, you are feeding and profiting from the capitalist system.

So what makes u think  that one of the people on those tours will hear the seminar about what they are eating and what are the consequences of that and that one of those people will start buying food only from people growing it naturally as nature intended ?

Or that one of those people wont stop eating hormone and antibiotic  filled semi-animals and start to buy meat from people who treat animals in human way or even better become vegetarian ?

Now if one case happens try to calculate how much money is redirected outside corporatism to people who accually do something during the life of that man.

Or why are u certain that that one person even if he got there by Hilton or Park Plaza or whoever took him there wont share his experience and involve few friends in more natural way of life that is complete opposite of capitalistic propaganda especially about food and water ?

What makes u think a photo of a man messing with your food pesticides and other craps dressed up like he is going to space cannot make a difference for someone.


Yes again, u were and are completely wrong, even if your ego is hurt and if u try to invent any argument corporate capitalism lacks humanity and parts of that can surely be exposed inside stock photography even if its highly connected to capitalism as u rightfully claim.