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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2017, 09:46 »
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That story is rubbish

Kevin got a UN flight out to location in Southern Sudan

When the plain landed he and other passengers and crew got of the plane while local villagers were helping unload food supplies.

The parents of the little girl had put her on the ground while they helped move the cargo. 

Kevin shot the photo and when the unloading was done the child was scooped up by her parents.

Everyone likes to blame him etc but it was wholly uncalled for.  The child was never in danger and Kevin would no doubt have ended up being accused of kidnap or some souch nonsense if he had picked her up.

As a result of his photo it opened the world's eyes to what was going on.

Carter did not touch the child since photojournalists were "told not to touch famine victims for fear of spreading disease"

His suicide had nothing to do with that photo it had a lot more to do with the cumulative effect of all the subjects he photographed and the death of his friend.

His suicide note:

Im really, really sorry. The pain of life overrides the joy to the point that joy does not exist...I am depressed...without phone...money for rent...money for child support...money for debts...money!!!...I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings and corpses and anger and pain...of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners...I have gone to join Ken [recently deceased colleague Ken Oosterbroek] if I am that lucky.
 Kevin Carter in his suicide note,


Did you read the article on the Time website I linked to?

Yes I did and ?


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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2017, 12:16 »
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You should stick to marijuana though think there might be an unfilled niche there

I tried but I think could have done a better job. What do you think?

Reminds me of the guy on shutterstock with his port of 10,000+ images of only marijuana at different angles.

« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2017, 01:25 »
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You should stick to marijuana though think there might be an unfilled niche there

I tried but I think could have done a better job. What do you think?

Reminds me of the guy on shutterstock with his port of 10,000+ images of only marijuana at different angles.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that is what Pauws99 was referring to

« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2017, 01:32 »
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You should stick to marijuana though think there might be an unfilled niche there

I tried but I think could have done a better job. What do you think?

Reminds me of the guy on shutterstock with his port of 10,000+ images of only marijuana at different angles.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that is what Pauws99 was referring to
Correct ;-)

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« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2017, 05:03 »
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In the case of the starving African child (who according to Sammy the Cat, wasn't actually starving) the photographer could have done little to aid her.

In the Charlottesville situation, there were medical professionals aiding the victims. A reporter would only be in the way if he'd try to give medical aid. He could however help by taking pictures to cover the story (as long as he keeps his distance).

Where did I say that the child was not starving?

Try and keep up

You did say: "The child was never in danger".
Implying it wasn't starving, because that would classify as being in danger.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2017, 05:06 by Noedelhap »

« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2017, 11:35 »
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I think his point was that the child was not dying alone on a street corner without any help. The child was already being helped (allegedly). Nothing wrong with taking a picture. How else would the public know there is an issue if it isn't being reported?

namussi

« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2017, 20:45 »
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The debate about the child in the African supports my original point: you need to think about when you should abandon taking photos, and help people in need.

« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2017, 21:18 »
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I have taken a few photos of political things concerning positions to which I am strongly opposed.  I do not think they have documentary value as images.  I have not been able to upload them because I do not want used in any way hat would support certain positions.  Perhaps it would be different if they were more documentary or i the image said more as an image.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2017, 21:20 by Hildegarde »

« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2017, 14:53 »
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It is Charlottesville Va. And although yes would be the answer, I use my news contacts for sensitive items like this. Besides they do pay more for newsworthy stuff. It is important to document such history for many purposes.

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« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2017, 07:05 »
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I have not been able to upload them because I do not want used in any way hat would support certain positions.

I worked in oil & gas for many years and they're one of the greediest most corrupt sectors around. Sometimes we have to do what we have to do but I'm glad I got out.

Brasilnut

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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2017, 07:29 »
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They're removing controversial statues left right and centre in crazy USA. Why?

Shelma1

« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2017, 14:03 »
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Why not? Replace them all with statues of heroic black women, I say.

« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2017, 14:58 »
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They're removing controversial statues left right and centre in crazy USA. Why?
Because most of them were put up as a message to minorities that they are not welcome in the south and they should know their place. Why did they tear down statues after the fall of the third reich?
If they belong anywhere it's in a museum to remind people of awful their ancestors were.

« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2017, 15:38 »
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They're removing controversial statues left right and centre in crazy USA. Why?

Same reason why, in most of democratic Eastern European countries, you don't see statues of Lenin, Stalin, Ceausescu, etc, in public places, anymore.
Same reason why there are no Nazi related statues in Germany.

Communism, fascism or racism are no matters we should be proud of and celebrate.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2017, 16:21 by Zero Talent »

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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2017, 16:57 »
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Communism, fascism or racism are no matters we should be proud of and celebrate.

I agree, but it's complicated. If you ever have a chance to visit Lisbon you'll see many many buildings and churches covered in gold. This gold was taken from Brazil and carved by slaves. These are beautiful structures with a sad history (which few people know about) so would you say its right that such churches should stand?

« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2017, 17:29 »
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Communism, fascism or racism are no matters we should be proud of and celebrate.

I agree, but it's complicated. If you ever have a chance to visit Lisbon you'll see many many buildings and churches covered in gold. This gold was taken from Brazil and carved by slaves. These are beautiful structures with a sad history (which few people know about) so would you say its right that such churches should stand?
It is not complicated.
The church is celebrating God, not some racist colonists.

Gold itself is not a symbol, unless you study chemistry.

On the other hand, a statue celebrating communism, fascism or racism is very much a symbol of evil and a shame for mankind.
You can't argue with that.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2017, 21:16 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2017, 01:10 »
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Communism, fascism or racism are no matters we should be proud of and celebrate.

I agree, but it's complicated. If you ever have a chance to visit Lisbon you'll see many many buildings and churches covered in gold. This gold was taken from Brazil and carved by slaves. These are beautiful structures with a sad history (which few people know about) so would you say its right that such churches should stand?
The statues are really not complicated in the same way at all.

« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2017, 01:20 »
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I'm not really sure the moral reasons come into it ...the victors tear down the symbols of those defeated. So when the communists were in the ascendency they destroyed religious symbols as did the Protestants in England and so it goes on.

« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2017, 03:52 »
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I'm not really sure the moral reasons come into it ...the victors tear down the symbols of those defeated. So when the communists were in the ascendency they destroyed religious symbols as did the Protestants in England and so it goes on.

Not really. The statues are (almost) all post civil war (obviously as they are claimed to be celebrating leaders from the civil war), so they were erected by people who were already defeated militarily.

If you look into their history and when and where they went up they are there to send a message about white supremacy and what the south stood for with regards to race in America, not actually to celebrate the people they depict.

Many went up in conjunction with Jim Crow laws being enacted with a more recent surge in reaction to civil rights movements in the 50s/60s.

« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2017, 04:04 »
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Confederates defeated Militarily yes but I don't think the white supremacy movement was so to me it illustrates the battle continues.

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« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2017, 05:41 »
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Yeah but its also gone too far the other way nowadays all you have to do is salute your flag and youre classified a racist. Fortunately not many take too much notice of all this leftie crap anymore!

niktol

« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2017, 05:49 »
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Why not? Replace them all with statues of heroic black women, I say.

How about soldiers of the Ethiopian Regiment?

« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2017, 05:49 »
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Yeah but its also gone too far the other way nowadays all you have to do is salute your flag and youre classified a racist. Fortunately not many take too much notice of all this leftie crap anymore!
By who? If not many take notice of the lefties crap what do you mean you are " classified as a racist"?

« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2017, 06:23 »
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Yeah but its also gone too far the other way nowadays all you have to do is salute your flag and youre classified a racist. Fortunately not many take too much notice of all this leftie crap anymore!
By who? If not many take notice of the lefties crap what do you mean you are " classified as a racist"?
Emily Thornberry is one that springs to mind in the UK https://twitter.com/emilythornberry/status/535450556199075840?lang=en.  The left can take things too far but the right shouldn't use that as an excuse to not deal with racism.  I'm so sick of the far left and far right, they're all as bad as each other.

« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2017, 06:53 »
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Yeah but its also gone too far the other way nowadays all you have to do is salute your flag and youre classified a racist. Fortunately not many take too much notice of all this leftie crap anymore!
By who? If not many take notice of the lefties crap what do you mean you are " classified as a racist"?
Emily Thornberry is one that springs to mind in the UK https://twitter.com/emilythornberry/status/535450556199075840?lang=en.  The left can take things too far but the right shouldn't use that as an excuse to not deal with racism.  I'm so sick of the far left and far right, they're all as bad as each other.
Of course there are nutters of every political persuasion but saying you are "classified" as a racist makes it seem like it is a mainstream view. I was confused because it was quickly followed by the statement that not many think it. Seemed a bit double thinkish to me.


 

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