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farbled

« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2021, 13:38 »
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Trump supporters have had no trouble constantly tying criminal looting and rioting to Democrats and peaceful protesters over the last year.

Therefore it is not only suitable but also quite appropriate to tie Trump supporters to the (proven) Neo-Nazi groups that engaged in domestic terrorism in the Capitol yesterday. (The fella in the "Camp Auschwitz" hoodie is a known member of one, along with a group he posed with). To do otherwise would be terrible hypocrisy.

Its a false equivalency anyway. As bad and horrific rioting was by criminals taking advantage of the protests, it is not on the same level as terrorism like this. This is the seat of your government, and the house of the people.

edit to add: I hope all of my US friends stay safe over the coming days. More apparently is planned by these homegrown terrorists according to news reports.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2021, 13:40 by farbled »


« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2021, 15:19 »
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All countries have infiltrated hate groups for their intelligence and security services.

We are putting pressure on Google not to fund advertising on made-up news blogs.

It seems to be, presumably, that society is pressuring Amazon so that its donations go to help respectable organizations, given the possibility that it will go to hate groups. It seems that Amazon is going to take an interest in ensuring that its donations go to whom they should go and that this does not exist.

I thought that the revolution that the US needs was only leading to civil war. Instead, justice and the army have maintained democracy and ruined the fascist coup.

The Trump family's money should be investigated over these four years. Monitor state secrets. Find out if any crime has been committed with the CDC coercing to manipulate data, the type of deaths in the home without counting as COVID and deaths from other diseases due to its management. Investigate the hacking of data from a foreign country in case there is access from within. Investigate if hate groups have received money from aid to citizens for COVID.

Then, return the money that the companies of the Trump family have received from COVID aid if they have violated rights and privileges. Investigate whether campaign donations have been fraudulently directed to your companies.

Investigate the possibility of receiving benefits in exchange for pardons.

Once the `possible crimes of all kinds have been determined, determine that they return the money if it is discovered that there is a crime.



Pardon Trump and make it easier for him to organize his political party, not martyr him in jail.


The Republican party will be renewed during the next decades, since governing will cost them decades.
The extreme right will be watched and its crimes will be answered harshly. Society will isolate hatred more and more.


Harris has the opportunity to get rid of the fact that public health is for blacks to have many children at the expense of white taxes.

Culture to recognize that you don't do business with health and that every American citizen should have the right to quality health care and those who want private health to pay for it. Health as a right, that multinationals dedicate themselves to auto, life, fire, arms, dog and home insurance and stop doing business with the health of Americans.

Place hospitals of the highest quality where the population is small and provide the best human and technical resources for health. Get away from the minds that health for all is communism.

A police force with the means and quality that protect citizens, removing the thugs from the police.

Treating the ultra-right as an organization to commit crimes.


I have a lot of hope in the USA. What happened in Georgia, the elections and this summer in the streets have shown me that the USA is in full revolution without a civil war.


I have hopes. Never again will a circus, comedian be placed as president of the USA. Trump is a victim of hate group money. They move a lot of money and, no, they will not stop. But the right-wing citizen is going to move away from the extreme right. And this is achieved by pardoning Trump

It is necessary to yield for both sides to advance in education and well-being. No three jobs to pay for rent, health insurance and food. It takes vacations, health care and isolating the extreme right, no more dead transsexuals. Peace.

Millions of dollars should not be spent on eternal campaigns while there are no hospitals for every US citizen.

The revolution started this summer in the streets.

« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2021, 16:03 »
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I can't understand how somebody can be so stupid to wear nazi clothes ot t-shirts with Shoah funny logos. This world stinks.

« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2021, 16:12 »
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What I wonder is, why were the police/security to unprepared?
On Tuesday the Liar In Chief posted something like, "Watch out, Washington, we're coming for you" in a tweet encouraging his followers to turn out. The tweet was subsequently taken down, but it was up for at least an hour (there were nearly 400 comments on it by the time I saw it).
Surely someone should have been monitoring, from a pandemic pov as well as public order.

Yes, they were unprepared. It didnt go unnoticed. Comparisons were immediately made between yesterday and the Black Lives Matter protest.

It was also mentioned by one Sen. that advisors were telling Trump to call in the National Guard earlier in the day, and he kept refusing. Truth? Who knows, but sounds about right.

Latest meme going around: Its only a coup if its from the coup detat region of France. Otherwise its just sparkling white terrorism. Funny/not funny.

« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2021, 17:40 »
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Some policemen were taking selfies with the protesters. Why? They seem to be much more afraid of unarmed black people in other demostrations gathering there...  Armed white lunatics with confederate flags and pipe bombs seemed to be old mates. I think the police forces should have used the force to avoid the siege... I mean, they were walking in so easily carriying bombs and guns....

worse:

But other police seemed to stand by, observing the disorder instead of stopping it: One image posted on social media showed an officer taking a selfie with one of the intruders, and a video seemed to show officers opening the security fence to let Trump supporters closer.

Police did not appear to try to detain the rioters, allowing them to leave unhindered. One even held a womans hand to steady her on the Capitol steps.
  .. WA Post
« Last Edit: January 07, 2021, 17:44 by cascoly »

« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2021, 04:09 »
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I have hope. I thought that the country could only be divided, peacefully or by violence. Now, I am hopeful that Trump will get self-pardon from him, or pardon from Biden.

I believe that Trump should create his own political party and group those with free time who have old washing machines in the garden, five unused cars and four old refrigerators at the entrance of the house and a lot of free time to cry as eternally forgotten by the elite of NY. They should go fishing less and listen to the news more.

Its just that kind of attitude that got Trump in to the Whitehouse ~ Its OK to be poor and not all of us are red necks, go fishing, or have car wrecks in the garden.


I talk about ideas and concepts to convey a moment of reflection. Thanks for clarifying that all of you are not like that.



No you just like a lot of people out there sit their with their smug opinions believing what you want to believe.

Its so much easier to label poor people as stupid dumb asses who would vote for Trump and his ilk.

Your kind love to indulge in the last great prejudice that of despising the poor and less fortunate while clambering up your ivory towers and proclaiming how inclusive and diveristy celebrating you are.




« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2021, 04:13 »
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The absolute definition of "paranoid" is: Trump. This dictator called the mobs of his party to come and storm the capitol, where five people lost their life. Therefore he is the killer of those killed while storming the capitol. I hope American Justice will do their duties and call this criminal mind before The Highest Court of America with charges of intentional murder. This insane paranoid must be brought to justice. He Must pay for his criminal acts. America Was a great country BEFORE his administration. He definitely managed to Make America Shorter... to the eyes of the World.-   

« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2021, 04:28 »
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I have hope. I thought that the country could only be divided, peacefully or by violence. Now, I am hopeful that Trump will get self-pardon from him, or pardon from Biden.

I believe that Trump should create his own political party and group those with free time who have old washing machines in the garden, five unused cars and four old refrigerators at the entrance of the house and a lot of free time to cry as eternally forgotten by the elite of NY. They should go fishing less and listen to the news more.

Its just that kind of attitude that got Trump in to the Whitehouse ~ Its OK to be poor and not all of us are red necks, go fishing, or have car wrecks in the garden.


I talk about ideas and concepts to convey a moment of reflection. Thanks for clarifying that all of you are not like that.



No you just like a lot of people out there sit their with their smug opinions believing what you want to believe.

Its so much easier to label poor people as stupid dumb asses who would vote for Trump and his ilk.

Your kind love to indulge in the last great prejudice that of despising the poor and less fortunate while clambering up your ivory towers and proclaiming how inclusive and diveristy celebrating you are.




I repeat that 70 million Trump voters are not what you think I have said. I allow myself the luxury of an opinion. But do not put in my mouth, a wrong interpretation of my words.


There are many people who vote for Trump, who are not poor. Instead, it is clearly defined, a sector of the Trump voter, who is convinced that immigrants and blacks are stealing their country. Many of these people are fed by being American. I call them false patriots.


People who do not have health insurance, but want to continue being squeezed by the insurers, because an X-ray for a beggar is an act of solidarity, of those who donate what is left over.

Free X-rays for everyone. And let no one commit suicide for not being able to pay for insulin. This America of false millionaires is a very defined sector of the Trump voter.

Those who tell lies on the internet also vote for Trum, knowing that there are people who can believe it. Unscrupulous people in a savage economy, where it seems like everyone is a millionaire and most lives paycheck to paycheck.


Less pretend, and more social rights for everyone.

Less flag and more chickpeas on the table.

Hard times on the entire planet. Please bring oxygen to the hospitals and relieve the doctors who have been working for months. Take care of doctors, authentic patriots, of the real ones, not of those who appear to be more American than the Americans.

It's normal that you don't understand me. I have no problem, it is very difficult to understand me.

« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2021, 07:57 »
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come on guys
trump is nice man . he have following all over world .
i like him because he had not started wars that's very nice thing
its police failure as they were unable to do there job to protect building
atleast now no one will say defund the police



« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2021, 08:55 »
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The absolute definition of "paranoid" is: Trump. This dictator called the mobs of his party to come and storm the capitol, where five people lost their life. Therefore he is the killer of those killed while storming the capitol. I hope American Justice will do their duties and call this criminal mind before The Highest Court of America with charges of intentional murder. This insane paranoid must be brought to justice. He Must pay for his criminal acts. America Was a great country BEFORE his administration. He definitely managed to Make America Shorter... to the eyes of the World.-
As instigaters behind the civil disobedience in the streets, Burn, Loot and Murder BLM leaders should be charged as accessories to every crime their group commits.

The peaceful demonstration at the capitol turned bad when riot police caused the problem. This was a peaceful occupation until then. They murdered an innocent white woman, who was in our military service by shooting her. She wasn't armed, didn't throw rocks or bottles of burning fuel wasn't harming anybody or looting. She was just a protester. I'm upset that this forum supports racist murder and misogamy.

Equal rights for everyone.

« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2021, 09:10 »
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As instigaters behind the civil disobedience in the streets, Burn, Loot and Murder BLM leaders should be charged as accessories to every crime their group commits.

The peaceful demonstration at the capitol turned bad when riot police caused the problem. This was a peaceful occupation until then. They murdered an innocent white woman, who was in our military service by shooting her. She wasn't armed, didn't throw rocks or bottles of burning fuel wasn't harming anybody or looting. She was just a protester. I'm upset that this forum supports racist murder and misogamy.

Equal rights for everyone.

I fear you may be suffering from a paranoid mental illness. Please, please, seek help before your delusions get worst. Hope you get well soon.

« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2021, 09:15 »
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The absolute definition of "paranoid" is: Trump. This dictator called the mobs of his party to come and storm the capitol, where five people lost their life. Therefore he is the killer of those killed while storming the capitol. I hope American Justice will do their duties and call this criminal mind before The Highest Court of America with charges of intentional murder. This insane paranoid must be brought to justice. He Must pay for his criminal acts. America Was a great country BEFORE his administration. He definitely managed to Make America Shorter... to the eyes of the World.-
As instigaters behind the civil disobedience in the streets, Burn, Loot and Murder BLM leaders should be charged as accessories to every crime their group commits.

The peaceful demonstration at the capitol turned bad when riot police caused the problem. This was a peaceful occupation until then. They murdered an innocent white woman, who was in our military service by shooting her. She wasn't armed, didn't throw rocks or bottles of burning fuel wasn't harming anybody or looting. She was just a protester. I'm upset that this forum supports racist murder and misogamy.

Equal rights for everyone.



My hope, my dream drowned in a deep well. I understand that there is not the slightest possibility of a peaceful solution possible.

Civil War is the only possible solution, seeing the two realities that society lives. There is no human force on this planet that makes both sides see reality.


It is simply impossible.
Luck.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2021, 10:30 »
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come on guys
trump is nice man .
Don't get me started. Watch 'You've Been Trumped' for the measure of the evilness of the man.

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he have following all over world.
So? There are crazy people everywhere.
In general, he's an international laughing stock.
Even 'our' (I use that term loosely, as in 'UK') idiot BoJo has at last had to denounce him this week.

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i like him because he had not started wars that's very nice thing
It's not over til it's over.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/08/donald-trump-war-iran-tehran-daniel-ellsberg
(and plenty other media outlets are running similar stories)

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its police failure as they were unable to do there job to protect building
atleast now no one will say defund the police
There has to be an enquiry as to police/security failure, especially given the amount of advanced warning they had, but Trump was certainly inciting the mob, firstly encouraging them on Twitter to come to Washington and warning Washington 'we're coming for you', then lying to the crowd that he was going to walk down to the Capitol with them, while doing nothing of the sort, just laughing at how gullible his minions are. The modus operandi of the dictator/fat cat.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2021, 11:22 by ShadySue »

« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2021, 11:54 »
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anyway I heard it was a mixture of Rep protesters and Antifa/BLM!...on a British channel!

(eyeroll)

« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2021, 12:16 »
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everyone who is 18 + is responsible for his own acts  .
trump have denounced this attack
law and order
i agree that trump is not perfect ,
problem is people are losing trust in system very fast , sometime to revive trust you have to address concerns of all parties to solve this division and radicalization on both side that is only solution to heal and move toward better future
by banning someone from twitter and etc. you make him more popular and more powerful
now internet and social media sites will be divided in conservative and liberal , as new conservative social media player will emerge , more division in society , 


farbled

« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2021, 12:24 »
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As instigaters behind the civil disobedience in the streets, Burn, Loot and Murder BLM leaders should be charged as accessories to every crime their group commits.

The peaceful demonstration at the capitol turned bad when riot police caused the problem. This was a peaceful occupation until then. They murdered an innocent white woman, who was in our military service by shooting her. She wasn't armed, didn't throw rocks or bottles of burning fuel wasn't harming anybody or looting. She was just a protester. I'm upset that this forum supports racist murder and misogamy.

Equal rights for everyone.

The hypocrisy is strong with this one.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2021, 12:32 »
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anyway I heard it was a mixture of Rep protesters and Antifa/BLM!...on a British channel!

(eyeroll)

Just to be clear, not on any British media I've seen!

farbled

« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2021, 12:46 »
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As instigaters behind the civil disobedience in the streets, Burn, Loot and Murder BLM leaders should be charged as accessories to every crime their group commits.

The peaceful demonstration at the capitol turned bad when riot police caused the problem. This was a peaceful occupation until then. They murdered an innocent white woman, who was in our military service by shooting her. She wasn't armed, didn't throw rocks or bottles of burning fuel wasn't harming anybody or looting. She was just a protester. I'm upset that this forum supports racist murder and misogamy.

Equal rights for everyone.
So you are saying that when someone instigates violence they should be held accountable? I agree completely. That's why they should be arresting everyone who conspired to cause the deaths and mayhem in your Capitol.

I have far more sympathy for the cop who was killed doing his job instead of for a previously convicted criminal with multiple restraining orders against her (see how distasteful it is when you point out a person's criminal record to defend your point of view?). Besides which, as a former soldier, the fact that she took part in an attempted insurrection, against all the vows she swore, is despicable. That anyone died at all is on your President.

But hey, equal rights (and equal treatment) for everyone. I agree, hence all the protests last year.

« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2021, 12:47 »
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Military superpowers with mental leaders cheered by the good old nazi mates or something even worse. We are close to extinction.




farbled

« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2021, 13:41 »
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It will be interesting to watch how they try and white-wash this away. After all, trump did sign an executive order mandating a 10 year sentence to those caught damaging federal property.

So, are they really "Law and Order" as they say?


« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2021, 14:32 »
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Is there any difference between a radicalised maga and a radicalised jihadist? 

« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2021, 15:05 »
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Is there any difference between a radicalised maga and a radicalised jihadist?

No.

They are both violent extremists.

« Reply #47 on: January 09, 2021, 15:08 »
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Is there any difference between a radicalised maga and a radicalised jihadist?

Of course, terrorism is terrorism, regardless of where it comes from.
We do not condemn everyone who covers their heads and reads the Qur'an, only the terrorists. The extreme right kills, they are organized terrorists.

The problem is, that 70 million people have voted for the Commander in Chief of the Militias for the Salvation of the American People in the fight against Communism, the Left and the Antifascists, enemies of their Constitution, Freedom to insult Feminists, women, blacks ,muslims, gays, immigrants, Europeans, the EU, and all the enemies of the Freedom of Expression to Free Hate.

Many Trump voters want Trump today and are not on the extreme right, they must decide, democracy or fascism, many elect Trump, the hatred of Pelosi is superior to what is rational and normal. Therefore, we are facing the problem generated by hatred on the internet since Obama was African. The NYTimes propaganda of the radical left that finances it, and Trump the salvation of the one who goes fishing and does not read the news.

The light of the New Fascist Guide will return them to a white country where the cleaning services are carried out by blacks.


America Great Again for White Fascists.

The right wing must be separated from the terrorists, or go to civil war.


However, the countries in the coalition will go against the winners if the fascists win. There is only one alternative. Or the terrorists are separated and isolated, who believe that they are saving the country from a coup d'tat and they are giving it, or war.

But the brain damage is severe and quite widespread. It is the great scam of the modern age, American fascism.

Many Trump voters want Trump today and are not on the extreme right, they must decide, democracy or fascism, many elect Trump, the hatred of Pelosi is superior to what is rational and normal.


Therefore, we are facing the problem generated by hatred on the internet since Obama was African. The NYTimes propaganda of the radical left that finances it, and Trump the salvation of the one who goes fishing and does not read the news.

Trump has not done politics, he has done hatred. In addition, he of allegedly stealing and allegedly letting his people die from the covid and kill each other.

« Reply #48 on: January 09, 2021, 16:00 »
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Is there any difference between a radicalised maga and a radicalised jihadist?

No.

« Reply #49 on: January 09, 2021, 17:58 »
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Guidelines to be followed by the American people.

In view of the events that have occurred, where an important sector of the population does not accept democracy, the start of the armed conflict in the American territory must be agreed.

It is important to negotiate both sides, the start of the war. If it is imminent, or if you leave it for the summer that there is a better temperature.


Those on Trump's side must initiate contact with foreign countries, Canada, EU, UK, Australia, Russia and China. To ensure that the international community respects the victory of Trump's followers, as president for life of the country with the most powerful military force on the planet, in the event of Commander in Chief Trump's victory.

Once the approval of the outcome of the conflict has been agreed by the international community. Do not leave for tomorrow what you can do today.

You must clarify whether the deceased in the US liberation conflict will be counted as deaths from COVID or from the war. You must negotiate whether hospitals are left out of the armed conflict or are accomplices of the left, adding deaths from a simple flu, that is, whether the international conventions of war are respected or not.

You must negotiate a pause period for the police and army to drop their uniforms and settle on one side of the battle.

Clarify the infrastructures free of battle, such as bridges, roads, electrical installations, water, food and transport.


Once the points have been clarified, since both parties are at the right moment and decided, to start the armed conflict.


As it is a war between brothers, you must negotiate the issue of the prisoners. And agree on whether or not the winning side will shoot the rest of the survivors on the other side once the battle for the liberation of the USA is concluded, as well as if it will keep them in jail for life.


You must agree whether the private assets of each owner will be respected or the assets of the losing side will be expropriated.

Give a period of pause, to get all the works of art to Canada to preserve them for the winning side.

Decide whether in periods like Christmas there will be a ceasefire. Negotiate whether the unarmed are part of one side of the war or are considered civilians.


 

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