Author Topic: Deleting Facebook (Read 53724 times)

RAW · « **on:** March 26, 2018, 13:55 »

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/03/facebook-scraped-call-text-message-data-for-years-from-android-phones/

It too late now but my account has gone.
Are you deleting yours?

cathyslife · « **Reply #1 on:** March 26, 2018, 14:54 »

Not quite yet, though it’s getting there. I don’t use the stupid app anyway, I mostly surf it thru safari on ipad.

DiscreetDuck · « **Reply #2 on:** March 26, 2018, 16:05 »

No... NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will not delete Facebook!! that is not possible!!!

... since I don't use this piece of Sh.t

k_t_g · « **Reply #3 on:** March 26, 2018, 22:17 »

I always felt they were the dark side.

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #4 on:** March 27, 2018, 00:03 »

If you use your phone - everythign is still tracked/etc. Just - now you are giving it to google instead of facebook. So pick your poison...

Chichikov · « **Reply #5 on:** March 27, 2018, 00:12 »

Yesterday I have downloaded my (supposed to be ) whole Facebook profile following the instructions here:

••••
You can download your information from your settings. To download your information:
Click at the top right of any Facebook page and select Settings
Click Download a copy of your Facebook data at the bottom of General Account Settings
Click Start My Archive
••••

Then I have had a big surprise, in my profile appear all my phone contacts, with all their phone numbers, even names of people not being in my phone contacts, but only in my computer, and not being my "friends" on Facebook.

Now I wonder how many other information not appearing in my profile they can have (use, rent, sale…)

cobalt · « **Reply #6 on:** March 27, 2018, 03:02 »

No.

Facebook is very useful and most of my friends/family are there, plus I can follow newspaper articles or themes I am interested in. And then there are all kinds of useful facebook groups.

The interface is ugly but it has critical mass and I find instagram very boring and twitter is something i use only for politics.

Chichikov · « **Reply #7 on:** March 27, 2018, 03:17 »

Quote from: cobalt on March 27, 2018, 03:02

No.

Facebook is very useful and most of my friends/family are there, plus I can follow newspaper articles or themes I am interested in. And then there are all kinds of useful facebook groups.

The interface is ugly but it has critical mass and I find instagram very boring and twitter is something i use only for politics.

Yes it is useful some time!

There I can keep contact with my friends and my family all over the world, and that is good.
There are also interesting groups; I have found groups about plants, insects and birds where they can identify anything in minutes - very useful really.
This is the attractive part…

But there is a great hidden part, and this is dangerous.
As they say, "if it is free… you are the product"

Also remember the E. Snowden quote:
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."

Yes Facebook can be good, in surface… but beyond?
Also drugs can be good, they make you feel good, happy, stronger… some time……

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #8 on:** March 27, 2018, 03:51 »

Quote from: Chichikov on March 27, 2018, 03:17

I have found groups about plants, insects and birds where they can identify anything in minutes

Do you have the names? It would be very useful for me as well. Thanks!

Dodie · « **Reply #9 on:** March 27, 2018, 04:01 »

Quote from: SuperPhoto on March 27, 2018, 00:03

If you use your phone - everythign is still tracked/etc. Just - now you are giving it to google instead of facebook. So pick your poison...

I don't mind Google having all my data, they have it anyway with Adsense and all their services I'm using.
Facebook is a real poison, people lost their mind shouting out to the world all their family problems, what they eat, when they sleep......

Last time I wanted to check out a link someone sent me, I couldn't even sign in, I forgot my pass. Then they were asking for a phone number. I gave them the wrong number, how could I remember which number I gave them many years ago. After that, they were asking for a government ID which was the end of our relationship.
Now I can't even see what data they have about me.

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #10 on:** March 27, 2018, 04:27 »

Quote from: Dodie on March 27, 2018, 04:01

Then they were asking for a phone number. I gave them the wrong number, how could I remember which number I gave them many years ago.

How often do you change phone numbers?

Dodie · « **Reply #11 on:** March 27, 2018, 08:12 »

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on March 27, 2018, 04:27

Quote from: Dodie on March 27, 2018, 04:01
Then they were asking for a phone number. I gave them the wrong number, how could I remember which number I gave them many years ago.

How often do you change phone numbers?

I have 4 phones with 4 numbers, including land line, from different providers. I bought some and I got some for free included in my internet package, but they are all in use. That may be strange for you, apparently but I don't live in a forgotten village.

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #12 on:** March 27, 2018, 08:16 »

Quote from: Dodie on March 27, 2018, 08:12

I have 4 phones with 4 numbers, including land line, from different providers. I bought some and I got some for free included in my internet package, but they are all in use. That may be strange for you, apparently.

I was just curious.

I've had the same number since I got my first cell phone in 1998. A Nokia 6150.

Dodie · « **Reply #13 on:** March 27, 2018, 08:19 »

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on March 27, 2018, 08:16

Quote from: Dodie on March 27, 2018, 08:12
I have 4 phones with 4 numbers, including land line, from different providers. I bought some and I got some for free included in my internet package, but they are all in use. That may be strange for you, apparently.

I was just curious.

I've had the same number since I got my first cell phone in 1998. A Nokia 6150.

I have the same number on my main phone (considered by me) since 15 years but I don't give that number to every spammer.

RAW · « **Reply #14 on:** March 27, 2018, 08:56 »

It makes me wonder if Amazon's Echo/Dot/Alexa is listening to everything.
Or am I just paranoid?

niktol · « **Reply #15 on:** March 27, 2018, 09:01 »

I don't have a cell/smartphone. Difficult to explain to people, but makes my life so much easier. I read emails in the morning, and plan events in advance, old school.

And no, Facebook isn't a bad thing. I don't provide personal info, but if someone wants to, it's their choice. Maybe someone will want to sell them a good steak once they learn what they ate this weekend. Dark side? Nothing wrong with that, I am dark side too. God forbid we end up with only government approved "non-fake" news.

niktol · « **Reply #16 on:** March 27, 2018, 09:07 »

Quote from: RAW on March 27, 2018, 08:56

It makes me wonder if Amazon's Echo/Dot/Alexa is listening to everything.
Or am I just paranoid?

Maybe you are paranoid. As they say, it doesn't mean they aren't listening.

cathyslife · « **Reply #17 on:** March 27, 2018, 09:25 »

Quote from: RAW on March 27, 2018, 08:56

It makes me wonder if Amazon's Echo/Dot/Alexa is listening to everything.
Or am I just paranoid?

You aren’t paranoid, it’s a two way street. Data flows both ways.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 27, 2018, 09:58 »

I'm not sure deleting Facebook will change anything. Everything you do is tracked by marketers and has been for many decades, way before the internet. In the olden days every magazine or newspaper subscription you bought was entered into a database that was rented to zillions of marketers...that's why you got junk mail. Your credit card purchases are aggregated and sold. TV show ratings were calculated by Nielsen convincing some viewers to have a box installed on their TV that tracked all the shows they watched...starting in 1950. Every advertising brief includes demographic and psychographic audience information gathered from research companies.

Do you think you're not also tracked on Instagram, Twitter, Google, every page you visit? I won't have Alexa in my house because I'm sure someone's listening...that's my assumption after 3 decades in marketing. Of course, they can also listen/watch/track through your phone, tablet and computers (maybe even your microwave, lol). If you have a job in an office and work on a computer your company's IT department has installed software that tracks your every keystroke.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 27, 2018, 10:25 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on March 27, 2018, 09:58

I'm not sure deleting Facebook will change anything. Everything you do is tracked by marketers and has been for many decades, way before the internet. In the olden days every magazine or newspaper subscription you bought was entered into a database that was rented to zillions of marketers...that's why you got junk mail. Your credit card purchases are aggregated and sold. TV show ratings were calculated by Nielsen convincing some viewers to have a box installed on their TV that tracked all the shows they watched...starting in 1950. Every advertising brief includes demographic and psychographic audience information gathered from research companies.

Do you think you're not also tracked on Instagram, Twitter, Google, every page you visit? I won't have Alexa in my house because I'm sure someone's listening...that's my assumption after 3 decades in marketing. Of course, they can also listen/watch/track through your phone, tablet and computers (maybe even your microwave, lol). If you have a job in an office and work on a computer your company's IT department has installed software that tracks your every keystroke.

To be honest I'm surprised at the fuss around this as I assumed it was in all probability happening anyway....

niktol · « **Reply #20 on:** March 27, 2018, 10:37 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on March 27, 2018, 10:25

To be honest I'm surprised at the fuss around this as I assumed it was in all probability happening anyway....

politics...Automatic collection of personal data and running them through classificators is so simple, a teenager can do it. On a budget of lunch money. An average person can collect and process hundreds of thousands profiles per day on a laptop without quitting his daytime job.

Dodie · « **Reply #21 on:** March 27, 2018, 17:39 »

Yes, it is politics
https://www.mail.com/int/news/uk/8374908-expert-brexit-campaign-used-data-mined-facebook.html#.2400-stage-set1-1

farbled · « **Reply #22 on:** March 27, 2018, 20:32 »

I am busy writing fiction in my free time which involves a lot of online research into germ warfare, nukes, spying, terrorism, zombies, armies, assault, and a host of other things. I find the targeted ads that come up nowadays absolutely hilarious.

niktol · « **Reply #23 on:** March 27, 2018, 21:31 »

This type of activity can attract more than just ads

.

dpimborough · « **Reply #24 on:** March 28, 2018, 01:11 »

Quote from: farbled on March 27, 2018, 20:32

I am busy writing fiction in my free time which involves a lot of online research into germ warfare, nukes, spying, terrorism, zombies, armies, assault, and a host of other things. I find the targeted ads that come up nowadays absolutely hilarious.

Guaranteed you'll be on a CIA/NSA/FBI watch list

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