Author Topic: Do you need to get vaccinated against coronavirus every year? (Read 1368 times)

stoker2014 · « **on:** September 25, 2024, 04:26 »

I got my last vaccination 2 years ago. I've had 4 vaccinations in total.
And now I don't know whether to get the fifth vaccination or not?
Do you get vaccinated every year? What does medicine in your countries say about this? (When answering, please write which country you are from).

Anti-vaxxer is not allowed to write in this thread!

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #1 on:** September 25, 2024, 07:41 »

You have a basic immunity with just one complete vaccination. Basic immunity exists once the immune system has been exposed to pathogen components through vaccination or the pathogen itself through infection.

In my country only groups of people who are at increased risk are recommended an additional booster each year.
These are, people over 60, residents of long-term care facilities; anyone with relevant underlying conditions, people with an increased infection risk on account of their occupation in healthcare or long-term care that involves direct contact with patients.

However, it's difficult to even get the vaccination here, because doctor's practice still only get the vaccine in vials with 10 doses and since they are unlikely to get 10 patients wanting to get vaccinated on the same day, they have to throw away the rest and therefore do not order the vaccine in the first place.

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #2 on:** September 25, 2024, 07:49 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on September 25, 2024, 04:26

I got my last vaccination 2 years ago. I've had 4 vaccinations in total.
And now I don't know whether to get the fifth vaccination or not?
Do you get vaccinated every year? What does medicine in your countries say about this? (When answering, please write which country you are from).

Anti-vaxxer is not allowed to write in this thread!

Haha re: your statement "Anti-vaxxer is not allowed to write in this thread!

". So anything that does not tell you to get injected makes a statement an "anti-vaxx" statement? (Which, BTW - the injection is not a "vax" in the traditional sense as one has been 'educated' through schooling to believe, so not getting the deathjab is a good - the media has trained you to have an emotional 'triggering' response to that word). Stop calling it a "vaccine" because it is not a "vaccine" (esp. not that one 'learned' in school). It's designed to to turn your body essentially into a programmable computer, with the "mNRA". It alters your DNA/genetic makeup, on PURPOSE. It is POISON. It is VERY VERY BAD.

Anyways. The answer is: No.

1. There is no "contagious virus", never was, still isn't. You can't "get sick" from it, you can't "die" from it - because there is no such thing. It is a PICTURE, it is a 3D "scary" looking computer model. So - the "vaccine" (which is not a "vaccine" in the traditional sense, it is actually a poisonprick/clotshot/etc - THAT is what it is) is very bad. IF you want "authorative" information (because common sense, thinking, etc eludes you) - on all the wonderful "effects" of the injection (not "side effects", nor the silly invented phrase "adverse effects" - but "effects" - i.e., one of the PURPOSES of the injection) - read page #17 of this FDA document of KNOWN RESULTS from the injections. fda.gov/media/143557/download]www.fda.gov/media/143557/download/

It's not the only "authorative" source, but is one of the easiest ones to understand. That was NOV 2020. Before the massive push to get people injected with the clotshot.

2. Sorry to hear you've gotten FOUR injections. The injections CAUSE "long covid". The injections CAUSE "turbo cancers". The injections CAUSE "blood clots"[/u] and "heart issues". Those are some of the PURPOSES of the injections. I personally know people who have DIED FROM THE INJECTIONS. They are VERY VERY bad. Do not get any more. You can't "catch covid" - because it DOES NOT EXIST. It's a 3D computer model.

3. If - you, sadly like many people who injected yourself believe in the religion of convid - and "you got sick therefore it exists"... what you ACTUALLY got sick from is ANY one of the following combinations:
- poisons deliberately sprayed on the 'masks' (aka demondiapers)
- poisons deliberately sprayed on the "tests"
- shoving a stick up your nose to poke your brain (very bad + very stupid)
- suffocating yourself for 2+ years ESPECIALLY if you used "n95s" (look up hypoxia)
- the psychological fear + stress
- poor diet/eating habits
- etc, etc

THAT is what you "got sick" from. Also - the "masks" were designed to get you to participate in a bit of a "magic" trick in which essentially you've been hypnotized - kind of like a stage magician getting people to quack like a duck (or in this case, join the convid religious cult).

That temporary "sickness" was designed to manipulate you into believing into a fake virus, so you'd get injected with something that actually does cause permament damage.

b) If you "couldn't smell therefore it exists"... when were you EVER able to smell when you "got a cold"?

c) If you "know someone who died from it therefore it exists"... did you know that the "tests" were doctored + not standarized (on purpose), that LOTS OF MONEY (like LOTS AND LOTS of money) was given to doctors, hospitals, etc to claim something was "convid" related (it was a CON, hence CONvid, not "covid")... that lots and lots of doctors/medical professionals are actually incompetent, never actually researched what was going on - "just followed orders", were threatened with losing their job if they said ANYTHING contrary to the medical establishment, etc, etc..?

4. If... however - you refuse not only to consider any of the above - but want to religiously believe in the cult of convid... and you want to believe a magical particle could count the # of people at a table, knew if you were sitting or standing in a restaurant... and didn't attack costco, but just small businesses... if you want to believe so desperately in it to make you "feel" good... Then...

a) Why not get "daily" injections? Heck, why not hourly injections? I mean - if "four" shots are "good" for you, wouldn't 400 provide "400x times the protection" against a fake virus?
b) Heck - why not just stick a needle in your arm - walk around with that all day - and have an IV attached with a bag of the substance all day?
c) Why not - since "oh noes" - there are "variants of concern" (another "triggering" word designed to override people's THINKING and get them to REACT emotionally) - why not - get one of "each" from the "different countries" - so you can "feel" protected? After all - what if an "east indian" has an "east indian" variant... maybe stick 20 in your arm? Maybe you can get a coffee card, so once you've gotten 9 injections, you get a free coffee on the 10th?

Now - of course I am not advocating any of #4 - because that would be utterly insane and stupid. I'm saying that so perhaps your brain can be jarred a bit - and - even though its a "tough pill to swallow" (no pun intended) - you can see that you were lied to, as was most of the world - into injecting yourself with poison...

And - on top of that... might as well tell you if you aren't already aware/haven't heard... one of the other purposes of the "injections" (NOT a "vax" in the traditional sense, although as it turns out ALL of them actually are bad and CAUSE the 'diseases' they purport to get rid of) - if you aren't already aware... apparently these injections contain "s.a.n.s." (self-assembling nano-structures) - super high tech stuff - basically designed to track/trace/control/etc you... think of yourself having officially become a "node" of the internet... In other words - now the reason people get "clots" is because they actually have organic/metallic "internet nodes" growing inside of them, and they become too big because their body can't handle it - and then they have serious health issues.

But bottomline - no - you do NOT need to get another injection. It's POISON. Serious. THINK. USE YOUR BRAIN - what's left of it.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 25, 2024, 08:09 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 25, 2024, 07:41

You have a basic immunity with just one complete vaccination. Basic immunity exists once the immune system has been exposed to pathogen components through vaccination or the pathogen itself through infection.

In my country only groups of people who are at increased risk are recommended an additional booster each year.
These are, people over 60, residents of long-term care facilities; anyone with relevant underlying conditions, people with an increased infection risk on account of their occupation in healthcare or long-term care that involves direct contact with patients.

However, it's difficult to even get the vaccination here, because doctor's practice still only get the vaccine in vials with 10 doses and since they are unlikely to get 10 patients wanting to get vaccinated on the same day, they have to throw away the rest and therefore do not order the vaccine in the first place.

Well, I haven't had a vaccination for 2 years. Maybe my immune memory is starting to weaken. Also, new forms of covid are emerging, and vaccines are being modernized. So this question is open.
In fact, I have been vaccinated 5 times. The first time was when I got coronavirus. I almost died. So my first vaccination was natural.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 25, 2024, 08:13 »

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 25, 2024, 07:49

Haha re: your statement "Anti-vaxxer is not allowed to write in this thread! ". So anything that does not tell you to get injected makes a statement an "anti-vaxx" statement?

No, I only mean those who write such nonsense and rubbish as you.

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #5 on:** September 25, 2024, 08:25 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on September 25, 2024, 08:13

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 25, 2024, 07:49
Haha re: your statement "Anti-vaxxer is not allowed to write in this thread! ". So anything that does not tell you to get injected makes a statement an "anti-vaxx" statement?
No, I only mean those who write such nonsense and rubbish as you.

Lol, sorry to hear it seems you are a bit of a lost cause. Maybe it seems like nonsense to you because the words are too complicated for you, or maybe you only have a grade 3 education. (Actually children were smarter than most adults, esp. grade 3 or lower). Perhaps reading past the first few lines were really really tough for you, so you didn't make it to the rest of the statement.

Playing in your sandbox, because it seems you want to believe in convid SO desperately. Why are you asking people on an internet forum? After all - you believe the tell-lie-vision... so - why not do what your tellavision tells you to do? (Incidentally, your television is also telling you to chop off your body parts to become "trans", it is telling you if you are caucasian not to have children so you can give all your money/etc to black/east indian/arabic/etc people who are having 5-15 children EACH to collect 'child payments', it is telling you to become gay, it is telling you to hide in your house because of "climate change" and buy an electric vehicle that has batteries that explode while you sit in it)... why not do what your tell-a-vision is telling you to do there? (Lol, sadly there is a possbility you already do).

Go to CNN. If CNN tells you to inject yourself 50x. Why not do that? (For that matter, "fox" does try to manipulate people too, just in a different way because its owned by the same people).

Why don't you inject yourself 100x, 1x per day? That way, you can "feel" that you now have "daily fake protection"?

Actually, if 100x, 1x/day is "good" - why not do 100x in a SINGLE day? Heck. Order 1000. That way you can be SUPER "protected".

Go to 100 different doctors offices in a week, so you can get 10x injections from all of them. You'll make them a lot of money.

Do you not see how utterly stupid that is? Apparently, not yet if you are asking people on an internet forum whether you should continue to poison yourself.

In case you were actually considering any of the above - no, do not do that. It is insanely stupid. The "vaccines" are not "vaccines". They are poison.

Also...

Since it seems you want SOO badly to believe in this fake virus. Let's play along.

Imagine this fake convid virus - when it encounters OTHER fake variants from people from different countries - has CONVID BABIES...
SO now - instead of 4 fake variants... it has 400 fake variants! Now, these convid variants particles are floating in the air, they stick to groceries and stick to your mouth... but now - when they mix with the saliva in your mouth, they have NEW fake convid variants! so now they have 2,000 fake convid virus particles floating your mouth OMFG!

So... you could go to a fake doctor that is getting paid LOTS of money for every injection... and ask to get yourself injected 2000x against all these fake variants!

But OH NOES! What if... the fake "booster" only lasts 1 day? Well... maybe you can get 2000 injections EVERY SINGLE DAY!

365 days... 2000 daily injections... In one year - just think! You could have 730,000 "boosters", and be 730,000x as "protected" against a fake virus, with 730,000x the amount of toxic poisons floating around in your body! OMFG! Wouldn't that be exciting?

No. Don't do that. Use your brain.

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #6 on:** September 25, 2024, 11:27 »

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 25, 2024, 07:49

1. There is no "contagious virus", never was, still isn't. You can't "get sick" from it, you can't "die" from it - because there is no such thing. It is a PICTURE, it is a 3D "scary" looking computer model.

In view of the thousands of deaths in Bergamo alone, with well over a thousand deaths among medical staff, I find such representations by uneducated know-it-alls unbearable and respectless.

I agree with you on one point: the vivid pictures of Corona virus are computer-assisted models. This is partly due to the fact that viruses cannot be photographed. However, the creation of these is based on sectional images (which, as with MRI, is not a real image in the true sense of the word) from the transmission electron microscope. But it doesn't really matter because the diagnosis is immunological anyway.

@stoker2014:

If you are otherwise healthy, I would not get vaccinated. The link between vaccination side effects and long Covid syndrome has still not been conclusively clarified. This is due to the fact that even before Covid, there were numerous people who fell ill with a number of non-specific symptoms despite being in the best of health.

Shuttershock · « **Reply #7 on:** September 25, 2024, 12:12 »

I didn’t realise there were so many medical professionals who sell stock :-o surely a doctors salary means he has no need to :-o

stoker2014 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2024, 17:16 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 25, 2024, 11:27

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 25, 2024, 07:49

1. There is no "contagious virus", never was, still isn't. You can't "get sick" from it, you can't "die" from it - because there is no such thing. It is a PICTURE, it is a 3D "scary" looking computer model.

In view of the thousands of deaths in Bergamo alone, with well over a thousand deaths among medical staff, I find such representations by uneducated know-it-alls unbearable and respectless.

SuperPhoto has a primitive mindset.

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 25, 2024, 11:27

@stoker2014:

If you are otherwise healthy, I would not get vaccinated. The link between vaccination side effects and long Covid syndrome has still not been conclusively clarified. This is due to the fact that even before Covid, there were numerous people who fell ill with a number of non-specific symptoms despite being in the best of health.

Thank you doctor!

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2024, 19:47 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 25, 2024, 11:27

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 25, 2024, 07:49

1. There is no "contagious virus", never was, still isn't. You can't "get sick" from it, you can't "die" from it - because there is no such thing. It is a PICTURE, it is a 3D "scary" looking computer model.

In view of the thousands of deaths in Bergamo alone, with well over a thousand deaths among medical staff, I find such representations by uneducated know-it-alls unbearable and respectless.

I agree with you on one point: the vivid pictures of Corona virus are computer-assisted models. This is partly due to the fact that viruses cannot be photographed. However, the creation of these is based on sectional images (which, as with MRI, is not a real image in the true sense of the word) from the transmission electron microscope. But it doesn't really matter because the diagnosis is immunological anyway.

@stoker2014:

If you are otherwise healthy, I would not get vaccinated. The link between vaccination side effects and long Covid syndrome has still not been conclusively clarified. This is due to the fact that even before Covid, there were numerous people who fell ill with a number of non-specific symptoms despite being in the best of health.

RalfLiebhold: RE-READ my post. You obviously you didn't read it correctly, completely, or both - because infortunately, you are very misinformed. Any "deaths" were either because of the "treatment" for the fake virus (i.e., incubation), 'co-morbidities' (i.e., recording something else totally unrelated as a "convid" death), etc, etc. There never was - and still is not - a "contagious virus". You've been lied to big time - and unfortunately - are still under a bit of a magical spell, i.e., quacking like a chicken and don't even know it.

"Long CONvid" is CAUSED by the injection for anyone actually experiencing any symptoms. Aka - it is "vaccine injury".

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #10 on:** September 25, 2024, 19:50 »

Quote from: stoker2014

SuperPhoto has a primitive mindset.

Haha. You are a funny guy - in that - that is all you can think of. It's like your eyes are glazed over. Sad, very sad.

So..... are you going to get your coffee card, so you when you get a 9th injection, you can get a free coffee?
Or... why not just 'replace your blood' with the injection to make you 'feel safe'...? (not. again that would be incredibly dumb).

Good luck. If you really want to know whether you should get an injection - ask one of the doctors who was 'fired' because they told the truth. Allopathic doctors who are still "practising" and promoted the clotshots were either incompetent, corrupt, or both.

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #11 on:** September 25, 2024, 19:58 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on September 25, 2024, 08:09

Well, I haven't had a vaccination for 2 years. Maybe my immune memory is starting to weaken. Also, new forms of covid are emerging, and vaccines are being modernized. So this question is open.
In fact, I have been vaccinated 5 times. The first time was when I got coronavirus. I almost died. So my first vaccination was natural.

Lol + ugh...

a) Not a "vaccine" (although, as it turns out - ALL 'vaccines' actually are bad. This one happens to be a lot worse). Its a deathjab/poisonprick/etc. More specifically - a vector for injecting "s.a.n.s." into your bloodstream among other things (self assembling nano particles). It GIVES you what you think is "covid".
b) If you got ill - see 1st post for what you most likely 'got sick' from. You can't "catch" something that doesn't exist (not to mention the idea of 'catching' a virus is based on germ theory).
c) Really fascinating that you don't even see that you are quacking like a duck. You are under a spell (as are most people who still believe in the cult of convid).
d) Curious - do you currently wear "a" mask (although, part of the pyscholgical trick was to call it "your" mask, because then you want to 'own' it). Were you one of the people who wore a blue + black, but made sure people could see the blue slightly so people knew that you had "two" masks?

But serious... if you believe the lie so strongly - why are you asking internet forum people? Why aren't you just being a good dutiful compliant 'herd' (cow) and getting injected according to what your paid off/corrupt (or just plain incompetent) doctor is promoting? (Turn off the t.v., doctors are not "gods", nor do most of them have a clue what is going on because they were focused on making MONEY and really don't care about your health as long as they make MONEY)... Maybe ask your doctor how many shots he/she needs to give you to pay for his/her next mexico vacation, and then see if you want to get that many shots.

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #12 on:** September 25, 2024, 20:00 »

Quote from: Shuttershock on September 25, 2024, 12:12

I didn’t realise there were so many medical professionals who sell stock :-o surely a doctors salary means he has no need to :-o

True, you don't.

And true - a doctors salary doesn't mean you would need to sell stock, although it is a lot of fun.

Incidentally, a lot of "medical professionals" not only were not "professional" at all - but:
a) never read any reports (just took 'higher ups' words for it)
b) were insanely egotistical (a number of nurses especially of all people - figured that because of the mere fact of "being a nurse" that it somehow gave them "divine" knowledge, utterly stupid stupid egotistical mentality)
c) considered themselves "too busy" to read up on any literature. (one particular jewish doctor/couple felt "oh-so-overloaded" because they "had" to work (OMFG) EIGHT whole hours a day, instead of the regular 2 or whatever their 'normal' was).
d) corrupt. some that knew it was poison didn't care - as long as they got paid (one fellow in the UK I believe it was, set up a system to make $1 million/month by injecting as many shots into people as he could)
e) fearful of losing their job - so didn't say anything. various "health authorities" that ran the governing bodies incidentally were paid off/bribed east indians threating other people (they enjoyed the little bit of power they had + the big payoffs, and the underlings just complied to keep their jobs)...

Only a few doctors/nurses actually did any thinking/reading/etc - spoke out - and then the media was used as a weapon against them. The same media that is owned by the people pushing the deathjab.

Anyways, no - most medical "professionals" were not professional at all about it. They lied, were corrupt, were incompetent - and really, really did not care about you at all as long as their own ass_ets were protected.

One of the really really sad part of it all though is...

The people who got injected, were lied to trusting 'authority' figures - were so mentally abused/mentally raped - that now... it is extremely hard for them not only to consider that they were abused/mind raped/etc, - but so utterly hard to believe they were duped so hard that it is easier for them to continue to believe the lie, and get 'more' shots to 'prove' it to themselves, than to admit they were lied to and to take action to stop the evil.

That, is very sad. Hopefully you wake up sooner than later to the truth.

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #13 on:** September 26, 2024, 00:42 »

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 25, 2024, 19:47

RalfLiebhold: RE-READ my post. You obviously you didn't read it correctly, completely, or both - because infortunately, you are very misinformed. Any "deaths" were either because of the "treatment" for the fake virus (i.e., incubation), 'co-morbidities' (i.e., recording something else totally unrelated as a "convid" death), etc, etc.

There was no treatment at the time described. Artificial respiration is also not a treatment, but prevents suffocation when the lungs are damaged.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 26, 2024, 02:23 »

SuperPhoto, reread my first post! Anti-vaxxer is not allowed to write in this thread!

This concerns you!

stoker2014 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 26, 2024, 03:39 »

It is very bad that good people have died and are dying from coronavirus, and not Anti-vaxxers who spread stupid anti-human propaganda that benefits China and the Russians. Gullible people listen to Anti-vaxxers, do not get vaccinated and die from coronavirus.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 26, 2024, 03:44 »

How is vaccination going in Israel now? I remember two years ago, doctors in Israel vaccinated people over 60 even every 3 months.
Judging by the small number of posts in this thread, I see that there is currently no coronavirus epidemic in the world. Apparently, mass vaccination of people every year or every six months has been canceled everywhere.

I also see rumors that a new virus is coming, worse than coronavirus. I wouldn't be surprised if it is also being developed in China, like coronavirus.

The world is in the third world war and the main weapon is bacteriological weapons. The virus kills many more people than even nuclear weapons. Therefore, we must be prepared for the emergence of new deadly viruses.

Wilm · « **Reply #17 on:** September 26, 2024, 04:16 »

Do you know what the biggest poison of modern times is? It's the belief of some people that absolutely everything they see on TV is a lie, while at the same time they believe that everything their algorithm bubble finds for them on the internet is the pure truth.

These are often the people who believe that injected particles are meant to track and control them. Meanwhile, they voluntarily disclose millions of pieces of data about themselves every day. They sit in their car, in their ‘smart home’ or use their smartphone or PC and only trust their social media channels controlled by algorithms - and are not even aware of the extreme extent to which they are being tracked and controlled/manipulated there. These people swear that the virus only exists to make a handful of people rich. At the same time, they make people rich who claim the opposite and get paid handsomely for ‘expert lectures’, advertising on their social media or YouTube channels or through donations, for example.

These people are advised to use their brains!

trucic · « **Reply #18 on:** September 26, 2024, 08:44 »

… every day or as often you can… this is the way!

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #19 on:** September 26, 2024, 09:11 »

Quote from: Wilm on September 26, 2024, 04:16

Do you know what the biggest poison of modern times is? It's the belief of some people that absolutely everything they see on TV is a lie, while at the same time they believe that everything their algorithm bubble finds for them on the internet is the pure truth.

These are often the people who believe that injected particles are meant to track and control them. Meanwhile, they voluntarily disclose millions of pieces of data about themselves every day. They sit in their car, in their ‘smart home’ or use their smartphone or PC and only trust their social media channels controlled by algorithms - and are not even aware of the extreme extent to which they are being tracked and controlled/manipulated there. These people swear that the virus only exists to make a handful of people rich. At the same time, they make people rich who claim the opposite and get paid handsomely for ‘expert lectures’, advertising on their social media or YouTube channels or through donations, for example.

These people are advised to use their brains!

Hi Wilm,

Some broad, random assumptions you are making here... How did you arrive at your conclusion that it is "the" biggest "poison"? Lol... Does that mean...

a) By your statment, that you believe everything on t.v. is truth?
b) Interesting you think it is a 'bubble' that 'finds' info for people, when generally those that have come to realize what is really going on actually seek out information, do critical thinking and reasoning, as opposed to having information spoonfed. Does that mean your algorithmic bubble custom tailored to you is accurate?
c) You are making some broad & inaccurate assumptions about what people do and don't disclose. As an aside though - in general - I do agree too many people do post waaaaaay to much about themselves on social media, and have illusions about 'privacy' simply because say something like 'facebook' has 'privacy' settings. (They obviously do not really understand how data sharing/storage/etc really works behind the scenes).

It seems you 'kind' of might have a cursory knowledge of some things going on, but just choose not to really investigate any further...

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #20 on:** September 26, 2024, 09:13 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on September 26, 2024, 03:44

How is vaccination going in Israel now? I remember two years ago, doctors in Israel vaccinated people over 60 even every 3 months.
Judging by the small number of posts in this thread, I see that there is currently no coronavirus epidemic in the world. Apparently, mass vaccination of people every year or every six months has been canceled everywhere.

I also see rumors that a new virus is coming, worse than coronavirus. I wouldn't be surprised if it is also being developed in China, like coronavirus.

The world is in the third world war and the main weapon is bacteriological weapons. The virus kills many more people than even nuclear weapons. Therefore, we must be prepared for the emergence of new deadly viruses.

Stoker! Cool - one thing we can agree on - yes, WWIII started in March 2020 and started by a small group of people vs the rest of the world. However, it is a psychological war, not a 'bacterial' war.

When, hopefully you realize sooner than later - that there never was a "contagious virus", and still isn't - that sending $1 TRILLION+ dollars to "ukraine" has really nothing to do with 'buying equipment' to 'fight a war'.. maybe you'll start to wonder why... there was such a push to get you injected with a random substance that neither you, nor obviously your 'health professional' had any clue was in it...

Lol, It is funny also how you resort to 'labels' (i.e., name calling, like calling someone "anti-vaxxer!') to try and dismiss anything you can't think of how to discuss intelligently... it is rather childish. It's like me saying something silly like "omfg, you are one of those PROvaxxers PROpharma PROpoison people! omfg omfg omfg". Also interesting - you never actually address nor it seems consider any possibility that you've been duped, nor that you actually got sick from the poisons deliberately sprayed on the PPE... You are quacking like a chicken - you are under a magical spell. Not sure yet what the magic word to snap you out of it is - but - yeah... there is no "virus" to "die" from - it is the injections people are dying from, the poisons sprayed and doused on the PPE, the pscyhological fear...

Incidentally - the "new" virus you speak of is most likely the new simulation... It's called "SPARS" (you should read the document), if I recall correctly was put out by the united nations organization, and it is "set" in 2027. (Event 201 was the "convid" simulation, and the final prep work was done in Oct 2019 before "the virus" was "released").

lowbouncerate · « **Reply #21 on:** September 26, 2024, 10:00 »

Sorry, When I read the Headline and i can relate with ShutterStock Yearly Reset the Level thing.

Now I feel that every 1st Jan - i got infected with Covid-19

stoker2014 · « **Reply #22 on:** September 26, 2024, 10:38 »

Quote from: lowbouncerate on September 26, 2024, 10:00

Sorry, When I read the Headline and i can relate with ShutterStock Yearly Reset the Level thing.

Now I feel that every 1st Jan - i got infected with Covid-19

I meant to get vaccinated once a year. This day and month is different for everyone.

Wilm · « **Reply #23 on:** September 26, 2024, 10:50 »

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 26, 2024, 09:11

Quote from: Wilm on September 26, 2024, 04:16
Do you know what the biggest poison of modern times is? It's the belief of some people that absolutely everything they see on TV is a lie, while at the same time they believe that everything their algorithm bubble finds for them on the internet is the pure truth.

These are often the people who believe that injected particles are meant to track and control them. Meanwhile, they voluntarily disclose millions of pieces of data about themselves every day. They sit in their car, in their ‘smart home’ or use their smartphone or PC and only trust their social media channels controlled by algorithms - and are not even aware of the extreme extent to which they are being tracked and controlled/manipulated there. These people swear that the virus only exists to make a handful of people rich. At the same time, they make people rich who claim the opposite and get paid handsomely for ‘expert lectures’, advertising on their social media or YouTube channels or through donations, for example.

These people are advised to use their brains!

Hi Wilm,

Some broad, random assumptions you are making here... How did you arrive at your conclusion that it is "the" biggest "poison"? Lol... Does that mean...

a) By your statment, that you believe everything on t.v. is truth?
b) Interesting you think it is a 'bubble' that 'finds' info for people, when generally those that have come to realize what is really going on actually seek out information, do critical thinking and reasoning, as opposed to having information spoonfed. Does that mean your algorithmic bubble custom tailored to you is accurate?
c) You are making some broad & inaccurate assumptions about what people do and don't disclose. As an aside though - in general - I do agree too many people do post waaaaaay to much about themselves on social media, and have illusions about 'privacy' simply because say something like 'facebook' has 'privacy' settings. (They obviously do not really understand how data sharing/storage/etc really works behind the scenes).

It seems you 'kind' of might have a cursory knowledge of some things going on, but just choose not to really investigate any further...

a) No.
b) I read in many ‘bubbles’. But I am absolutely aware that I also primarily get the information that the algorithm selects for me. I try to avoid this by questioning it.
c) I don't know the ‘objective truth’ either - I can only try to get as close to it as possible. However, I wonder why there are contemporaries who believe that they know the ultimate truth.

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #24 on:** September 26, 2024, 11:27 »

Quote from: Wilm on September 26, 2024, 10:50

..... However, I wonder why there are contemporaries who believe that they know the ultimate truth.

Wilm, conspiracy theorists usually have a narcissistic personality disorder and feel they belong to a superior elitist group by spreading the only truth.
Somehow it boosts their self-confidence.
You can also see this in their choice of words, which doesn't allow any contradiction or discussion.
It's more of a psycho thing, so discussions are completely pointless.

cascoly · « **Reply #25 on:** September 26, 2024, 11:44 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 26, 2024, 00:42

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 25, 2024, 19:47

RalfLiebhold: RE-READ my post. You obviously you didn't read it correctly, completely, or both - because infortunately, you are very misinformed. Any "deaths" were either because of the "treatment" for the fake virus (i.e., incubation), 'co-morbidities' (i.e., recording something else totally unrelated as a "convid" death), etc, etc.

There was no treatment at the time described. Artificial respiration is also not a treatment, but prevents suffocation when the lungs are damaged.

it's useless - he spams every topic with asinine conspiracy theories and just repeats them if you dont agree - this combined with a lack even the most basic logical thinking, facts, evidence or sources makes it impossible to have any adult discussion

he fails to understand even the most basic facts that boosters are needed to deal with new variants, just like the annual flu vaccines. i'm traveling now but will get my 5th round of shots when i return home

unfortunately many many thousands have died because they believed the dreck like he spews

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #26 on:** September 26, 2024, 17:24 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 26, 2024, 11:27

Wilm, conspiracy theorists usually have a narcissistic personality disorder and feel they belong to a superior elitist group by spreading the only truth.
Somehow it boosts their self-confidence.
You can also see this in their choice of words, which doesn't allow any contradiction or discussion.
It's more of a psycho thing, so discussions are completely pointless.

Haha RalfLiebhold,

You are a funny guy.

a) So... by your statement, would that make you an elitist, because you feel your subjective viewpoint is absolute, and anyone who disagrees with you is therefore a 'conspiracy theorist'? Isn't your statement, rather narcissistic?
b) You should learn the difference between a 'conspiracy' and a 'conspiracy theory'. Look it up.
c) Seems you are actually the one closed to discussion. You've never actually addressed any points I've mentioned - rather - part of the magic spell it seems you are under is to simply start name calling (i.e., "anti-vaxxer", "conspiracy theorist", "pyscho", etc etc) - and by childish name calling - you seem to feel absolved of actually having to do any thinking or addressing any point...

It's actually pretty funny in a way. It's also sad that you are that closed minded and need to resort to petty name calling.

At any point in time, feel free to indicate (a) what your beliefs are, and (b) how you arrived at them. Chances are - the answer would be (a) whatever was on television, (b) and whatever your doctor told you, if they told you anything at all. Did you actually read anything, consider anything, do any critical thinking? If you got injected multiple times, well, then the answer is pretty obvious. I'm just hoping perhaps right now you will do some reading... but - it's really fascinating how stuck you are in your belief system. You need to get past your ego.

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #27 on:** September 26, 2024, 17:31 »

Quote from: cascoly on September 26, 2024, 11:44

it's useless - he spams every topic with asinine conspiracy theories and just repeats them if you dont agree - this combined with a lack even the most basic logical thinking, facts, evidence or sources makes it impossible to have any adult discussion

he fails to understand even the most basic facts that boosters are needed to deal with new variants, just like the annual flu vaccines. i'm traveling now but will get my 5th round of shots when i return home

unfortunately many many thousands have died because they believed the dreck like he spews

Cascoly - same for you - why do you resort to name calling instead of explaining how you came to your conclusions? DId you do... any reading? Any critical thinking? By your statements - I'm assuming sadly you were like many, dutifully put on "your" mask because you didn't want to be inconvenienced/wanted instant gratification to shop in stores/travel/etc, absolved yourself of any responsibility by letting an unnamed 'authority figure' decide for you what to stick in your body... did you even question what was being injected when you got it - or just 'assumed' the doctor/etc sticking something in your arm was good for you?

Also - once you realize there never was/still isn't 'a virus' - the whole house of cards falls down and a lot of things become a lot more apparent. But... it's a spell you are under, apparently quite a powerful one. You need to get past your ego, but - it seems you are pretty stuck in your belief system. And it's a 'cult', a 'belief' system. What documents did you read?

Did you even question inconsistencies - like - why supposedly if this "virus" was sooooooo very contagious - you needed a "mask" (diaper) on at all times lest you 'breathe' on someone the wrong way... but... you had to shove a huge stick up your nose to puncture your brain in order to see if you were 'sick'? Did you question that? Or... was "food in grocery" stores somehow "safe" (even though people "breathed" on it and "touched" it while stocking it) - but - you "needed" to put toxic hand sanitizer on before touching a hamburger that you put in your mouth?

a) As for the "unnamed 1000's that have died" - (i) which "1000's" are you referring to, (ii) see my initial post as for the actual reasons they may have gotten sick/passed away/etc (iii) did you look at any actual stats (the "flu" magically disappeared for two years, and "magically" the "covid" stats seemed to be exactly the same for the flu for 2 years), etc, etc, etc... (iv) are you referring to 'comorbitities' (i.e., someone had "cancer" but a doctor called it "covid"+"cancer" so he/she could get big $$$), etc, etc... People "died" because (a) they had other health conditions (i.e., cancers, heart issues, etc), (b) the treatment was designed to do that (i.e., intubation was done improperly and basically exploded people's lungs, not a fictitious 'virus'),
b) How do you arrive at the conclusion that a "booster" is a "fact"? Do you not recall the rhetoric from the media that "its just 2 weeks to 'flatten the curve'". then "just 2 months". then "just 2 years". then initially it was "just one shot". then "just two shots". then "just two shots + booster". then just "two shots + two boosters"... then - you have people like stoker that want to get injected "annually"? Serious. Why not inject yourself once an hour ever hour by that reasoning? What "facts" are you referring to? It's not a "fact". In fact, it is pretty made up.
c) Re: sources - (i) they have been provided, you simply haven't even been bothered to look them up, (ii) you should do your own thinking as opposed to relying on some one else (i.e., cnn/fox/etc) to do your thinking for you... I suppose I should ask you - where's your sources? You never provide sources, why not? Where are your sources?

Think. Reason. If you disagree - explain how you arrived at your conclusions instead of silly childish and petty name calling. That's a dismissive tactic usually because the person can't actually reason - so name calling and trying to change the topic is easier.

You are mistaken. However, if you don't believe you are - explain why.

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #28 on:** September 26, 2024, 17:37 »

Quote from: Wilm on September 26, 2024, 10:50

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 26, 2024, 09:11
Quote from: Wilm on September 26, 2024, 04:16
Do you know what the biggest poison of modern times is? It's the belief of some people that absolutely everything they see on TV is a lie, while at the same time they believe that everything their algorithm bubble finds for them on the internet is the pure truth.

These are often the people who believe that injected particles are meant to track and control them. Meanwhile, they voluntarily disclose millions of pieces of data about themselves every day. They sit in their car, in their ‘smart home’ or use their smartphone or PC and only trust their social media channels controlled by algorithms - and are not even aware of the extreme extent to which they are being tracked and controlled/manipulated there. These people swear that the virus only exists to make a handful of people rich. At the same time, they make people rich who claim the opposite and get paid handsomely for ‘expert lectures’, advertising on their social media or YouTube channels or through donations, for example.

These people are advised to use their brains!

Hi Wilm,

Some broad, random assumptions you are making here... How did you arrive at your conclusion that it is "the" biggest "poison"? Lol... Does that mean...

a) By your statment, that you believe everything on t.v. is truth?
b) Interesting you think it is a 'bubble' that 'finds' info for people, when generally those that have come to realize what is really going on actually seek out information, do critical thinking and reasoning, as opposed to having information spoonfed. Does that mean your algorithmic bubble custom tailored to you is accurate?
c) You are making some broad & inaccurate assumptions about what people do and don't disclose. As an aside though - in general - I do agree too many people do post waaaaaay to much about themselves on social media, and have illusions about 'privacy' simply because say something like 'facebook' has 'privacy' settings. (They obviously do not really understand how data sharing/storage/etc really works behind the scenes).

It seems you 'kind' of might have a cursory knowledge of some things going on, but just choose not to really investigate any further...

a) No.
b) I read in many ‘bubbles’. But I am absolutely aware that I also primarily get the information that the algorithm selects for me. I try to avoid this by questioning it.
c) I don't know the ‘objective truth’ either - I can only try to get as close to it as possible. However, I wonder why there are contemporaries who believe that they know the ultimate truth.

Hi Wilm,

a) Glad to hear it (that you don't believe everything you see on t.v.).
b) Good to hear you do question things. Continue doing so.
c) Certain topics it does become quite apparent what the absolute truth is, once you think/reason/read/etc enough on the topic/subject. While obviously it would be difficult for one to 'know everything' - read enough/talk enough/reflect enough and certain truths on certain topics become quite apparent.
d) As an aside - I wanted to add that when you say people put too much personal information online/etc - I do agree with you on that point. (I don't believe people should be doing that). However - there is a huge difference between someone choosing to do that, as opposed to someone being forcefully made to do that (i.e., via the s.a.n.s./5G/6G injections).

While I am not sure which 'contemporaries' you are referring to (please elucidate), for myself - my initial statement (at the beginning of this thread) is actually quite accurate. That is based off of not only extensive reading (both "for" the "belief" in the "virus", as well as against - and then thinking/reasoning/etc as to what made sense and what didn't), but actual discussions with all sorts of individuals in different walks of life, and actual hands on experience. I did talk to the doctors, the CEOs, the business owners, the 'govt officials', etc - so I have a very good idea of what really happened and why. Very few people did that. Most chose to ignore it and/or let someone else decide for them. Sad, but true.

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #29 on:** September 26, 2024, 17:52 »

Quote from: lowbouncerate on September 26, 2024, 10:00

Sorry, When I read the Headline and i can relate with ShutterStock Yearly Reset the Level thing.

Now I feel that every 1st Jan - i got infected with Covid-19

While you may have gotten sick/etc (I don't dispute that, not sure what your life was like, and obviously I am glad you are feeling much better) - you didn't get "infected" with "convid", because it doesn't exist - it is a fictitious 3d computer model that was broad-cast like a spell over and over on tell-a-vision. You most likely got sick ill from a whole bunch of other things - but you can't get sick from a fictitious 3d computer model - unless somehow you are secretly a computer.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #30 on:** September 27, 2024, 02:24 »

SuperPhoto! You're a troll! Stop trolling people!

Wilm · « **Reply #31 on:** September 27, 2024, 02:40 »

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 25, 2024, 08:25

Quote from: stoker2014 on September 25, 2024, 08:13
Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 25, 2024, 07:49
Haha re: your statement "Anti-vaxxer is not allowed to write in this thread! ". So anything that does not tell you to get injected makes a statement an "anti-vaxx" statement?
No, I only mean those who write such nonsense and rubbish as you.

Incidentally, your television is also telling you to chop off your body parts to become "trans", it is telling you if you are caucasian not to have children so you can give all your money/etc to black/east indian/arabic/etc people who are having 5-15 children EACH to collect 'child payments', it is telling you to become gay,...

Okay, since you are so well informed and do serious research, could you please post the links to the reputable TV channels or programmes where we can watch these ‘facts’?

I haven't seen this anywhere on television myself.

So please enlighten us so that we can draw conclusions about the rest of your reputable sources...

trabuco · « **Reply #32 on:** September 27, 2024, 03:48 »

Hi:

I'm from Spain with nearly 100/100 vaccinated population and the best healthcare system in the world.

Here vaccine is recomended now just for vulnerable people.

I'm not sure if the new Covid vaccines have new variants inside. We don't have already more full statistics of ill people, just elderly people with covid statistics are public now (I think so).

You can get the vaccine for free with the flu vaccine every year if you want, because they are completeley safe. No restrictions for vaccination. Both are free, obviously.

I'm 51 and I'm just for the flu vaccine like I used to do before the nightmare.

I use to travel around Europe and I think I don' tneed the covid one for now.

But, I'm still using face coverings (ffp 2 or 3) ALWAYS in airports, planes and packed public transport abroad. Just in those places.

I have never got covid in a travel with this easy system after the pandemic.

trabuco · « **Reply #33 on:** September 27, 2024, 03:53 »

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Salud Pública recomienda la vacunación a personas de 60 o más años de edad; personas de 5 años o más internas en centros de discapacidad, residencias de mayores, y residentes en instituciones cerradas y personas a partir de 12 años de edad con las siguientes condiciones de riesgo; embarazadas en cualquier trimestre de gestación y mujeres durante el puerperio (hasta los 6 meses tras el parto y que no se hayan vacunado durante el embarazo y personas convivientes con aquellas que tienen alto grado de inmunosupresión.

Igualmente establece la vacunación para personal de centros y establecimientos sanitarios y sociosanitarios públicos y privados y personas que trabajan en servicios públicos esenciales, con especial énfasis en los siguientes subgrupos: Fuerzas y cuerpos de seguridad del Estado, con dependencia nacional, autonómica o local, así como las Fuerzas Armadas, bomberos y servicios de protección civil.

En menores se establece la vacunación infantil en menores entre 6 meses y 12 años se priorizará la vacunación a las personas con condiciones asociadas con un aumento de riesgo de enfermedad grave y sus convivientes: trasplante de progenitores hematopoyéticos, algunas inmunodeficiencias primarias y adquiridas, recibir terapias inmunosupresoras, incluyendo en cáncer (ver Anexo 1), enfermedades crónicas cardiovasculares graves, enfermedades crónicas respiratorias graves (incluyendo asma grave), y enfermedades neurológicas o neuromusculares graves.

Public Health recommends vaccination for people 60 years of age or older; people 5 years of age or older in disability centers, nursing homes, and residents in closed institutions and people 12 years of age or older with the following risk conditions; pregnant women in any trimester of gestation and women during the postpartum period (up to 6 months after delivery and who have not been vaccinated during pregnancy and people living with those who have a high degree of immunosuppression.

It also establishes vaccination for personnel in public and private health and socio-health centers and establishments and people who work in essential public services, with special emphasis on the following subgroups: State security forces and bodies, with national, regional or local dependency, as well as such as the Armed Forces, firefighters and civil protection services.

In minors, childhood vaccination is established in minors between 6 months and 12 years, vaccination will be prioritized for people with conditions associated with an increased risk of serious illness and their cohabitants: hematopoietic stem cell transplant, some primary and acquired immunodeficiencies, receiving therapies immunosuppressive, including in cancer (see Annex 1), serious chronic cardiovascular diseases, serious chronic respiratory diseases (including severe asthma), and serious neurological or neuromuscular diseases.

Big Toe · « **Reply #34 on:** September 27, 2024, 12:08 »

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 26, 2024, 17:31

You are mistaken. However, if you don't believe you are - explain why.

What's the point?

You don't believe there is a virus, inspite of a mountain of evidence to the contrary.

You believe that the vaccinations not only do not help but are actually designed to make you sick, inspite of a mountain of evidence to the contrary and even though that does not make any sense whatsoever in the first place.

So no argument and no amount of evidence is going to convince you.

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 26, 2024, 17:31

b) How do you arrive at the conclusion that a "booster" is a "fact"? Do you not recall the rhetoric from the media that "its just 2 weeks to 'flatten the curve'". then "just 2 months". then "just 2 years". then initially it was "just one shot". then "just two shots". then "just two shots + booster". then just "two shots + two boosters"... then - you have people like stoker that want to get injected "annually"? Serious. Why not inject yourself once an hour ever hour by that reasoning? What "facts" are you referring to? It's not a "fact". In fact, it is pretty made up.

1. It was always clear that you need at least two shots to be fully vaccinated with most vaccines. That was certainly the case for the new mRNA vaccines with which most people here in Germany and I believe in most parts of the Western World have been vaccinated with.

2. The scientific mind, unlike the mind of Conspiracy Theorists, is open to change it's opinion when new evidence is gathered.

In the case of covid, it was not clear from the beginning how well and for how long the vaccination would protect. There are some vaccines where one vaccination is enough for lifelong protection like for measles and there a other vaccinations that protect only for a period of time and even then not completly, like for influenza. It turned out that the covid vaccines fall into the latter category. And that corresponds with the disease. You usually get measles only once and are then protected for life, but you can get covid more than once, just like the flu or the common cold. You cannot expect the vaccine to provide a lifelong protection, when even the disease does not offer this protection.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #35 on:** September 27, 2024, 12:33 »

It is recommended to vaccinate against flu once a year. But I don't see such recommendations against Covid in this thread. Everyone says that it is enough to get three basic vaccinations against Covid and then not to do them. So Covid vaccinations are different from flu vaccinations.

Big Toe · « **Reply #36 on:** September 27, 2024, 13:11 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on September 27, 2024, 12:33

It is recommended to vaccinate against flu once a year. But I don't see such recommendations against Covid in this thread. Everyone says that it is enough to get three basic vaccinations against Covid and then not to do them. So Covid vaccinations are different from flu vaccinations.

At least here in Germany there is no general recommendation for a vaccination against the flu each year, either only for people over 60 and some other risk groups. It is basically the same for covid.

I will get another shot soon, but that's just me and due to the fact that I carry several risk factors for covid.

If you are in doubt, whether you should get vaccinated again, it is best to consult with a health care professional offline, with whom you can discuss your case, rather than relying on anonymous advice from people on the Internet who know nothing about your situation.

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #37 on:** September 27, 2024, 14:45 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on September 27, 2024, 12:33

It is recommended to vaccinate against flu once a year. But I don't see such recommendations against Covid in this thread. Everyone says that it is enough to get three basic vaccinations against Covid and then not to do them. So Covid vaccinations are different from flu vaccinations.

The Covid “vaccination protection” lasts for around 12 months, which can be explained by the fact that it is not a real vaccination in the true sense of the word. The proteins for the building instructions of the antibodies are degraded in an average of 1 year. How long immunity lasts after a real infection has not yet been conclusively clarified.

The current variant produces significantly less severe courses and long Covid.

For this reason, the German Vaccination Commission (STIKO) currently recommends a booster vaccination once a year in the fall only for people over 60 or with risk factors. Personally, I don't see the age limit as strict, but that's my personal opinion.

https://www.rki.de/SharedDocs/FAQ/COVID-Impfen/FAQ_Liste_STIKO_Empfehlungen.html

The flu (influenza) vaccination is a vaccination in the true sense of the word, in which the body is stimulated to produce antibodies itself on the basis of a "simulated" infection.
The main problem here is that the virus is very prone to mutation and produces a large number of different variants every year, which are no longer recognized by the antibodies.

Wilm · « **Reply #38 on:** September 27, 2024, 17:41 »

Quote from: Big Toe on September 27, 2024, 12:08

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 26, 2024, 17:31
You are mistaken. However, if you don't believe you are - explain why.

You don't believe there is a virus, inspite of a mountain of evidence to the contrary.

This claim comes from the former Vice CEO of Pfizer – Dr. Mike Yeadon – as well as two other doctors – Thomas Cowan and Samantha Bailey.

Yeadon recently claimed that the Covid VIRUS does not exist. That there is no VIRUS at all.

It is important to know that Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg and Dr. Mike Yeadon submitted a petition to the European Medicines Agency long before, on December 1, 2020, to stop ongoing clinical trials by Biontech and Pfizer on their coronavirus vaccines. The petitioners' arguments include the lack of long-term studies and the threat of side effects: In studies on mRNA vaccines against CoronaVIRUSES in cats, for example, a so-called antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) had occurred, causing the cats to die on subsequent contact with the VIRUS. ...

Quelle: https://www.bundestag.de/resource/blob/827940/cb0f78bdc022e555dc0b10aa6eb5a10f/WD-9-119-20-pdf.pdf

In 2020, the Russian broadcaster RT told the "Corona Committee" - which includes Wodarg and Yeadon - that there would be no second Corona wave: "In addition, "over 80 percent of people" could possibly already be immune to the VIRUS "because of its relationship to other cold coronaVIRUSES".

Anyone who uses their brain will see the contradictions in all these statements in which Mr. Yeadon has become entangled. First there are VIRUSES, even a CoronaVIRUS, then suddenly there are not.

The first human VIRUS discovered was the yellow fever VIRUS* (an RNA VIRUS) - discovered in 1901. Like all other VIRUSES, it is visible under an electron microscope. Electron microscopes have been around since the 1930s, when 3D software for computers did not yet exist.

* In 1951, the microbiologist Max Theiler received the Nobel Prize for Medicine for his vaccine against yellow fever developed in 1937.

Jens G · « **Reply #39 on:** September 28, 2024, 02:58 »

In Denmark people from the age of 65 and up are invited to get flu and covid-19 vaccinations.

Also people with weakened immune system can get them.

I don't think younger and healthy people can get the covid-19 vaccination, but they can pay for a flu vaccination.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #40 on:** September 28, 2024, 05:04 »

Quote from: Wilm on September 27, 2024, 17:41

Anyone who uses their brain will see the contradictions in all these statements in which Mr. Yeadon has become entangled. First there are VIRUSES, even a CoronaVIRUS, then suddenly there are not.

I think that Covid is primarily a bacteriological weapon used by China.

As for Russian TV channels, you don't need to listen to them, they only broadcast Russian propaganda and disinformation.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #41 on:** September 28, 2024, 05:25 »

Quote from: Wilm on September 27, 2024, 17:41

It is important to know that Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg and Dr. Mike Yeadon submitted a petition to the European Medicines Agency long before, on December 1, 2020, to stop ongoing clinical trials by Biontech and Pfizer on their coronavirus vaccines. The petitioners' arguments include the lack of long-term studies and the threat of side effects: In studies on mRNA vaccines against CoronaVIRUSES in cats, for example, a so-called antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) had occurred, causing the cats to die on subsequent contact with the VIRUS. ...

And yet, health care recommends that weak and old people be vaccinated every year. If weak and old people do not die, then Covid vaccines are safe. This is like the best testing of the vaccine, on the weak. How can you compare people with cats, this is nonsense. The vaccine is designed for people, not for cats.

Separate vaccines should be developed for cats and dogs. I may be wrong, but there is a difference between a human and an animal, right?

Wilm · « **Reply #42 on:** September 28, 2024, 05:53 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on September 28, 2024, 05:25

Quote from: Wilm on September 27, 2024, 17:41
It is important to know that Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg and Dr. Mike Yeadon submitted a petition to the European Medicines Agency long before, on December 1, 2020, to stop ongoing clinical trials by Biontech and Pfizer on their coronavirus vaccines. The petitioners' arguments include the lack of long-term studies and the threat of side effects: In studies on mRNA vaccines against CoronaVIRUSES in cats, for example, a so-called antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) had occurred, causing the cats to die on subsequent contact with the VIRUS. ...

And yet, health care recommends that weak and old people be vaccinated every year. If weak and old people do not die, then Covid vaccines are safe. This is like the best testing of the vaccine, on the weak. How can you compare people with cats, this is nonsense. The vaccine is designed for people, not for cats.

Separate vaccines should be developed for cats and dogs. I may be wrong, but there is a difference between a human and an animal, right?

You didn't understand.

My point was that Yeadon, for example, initially spoke out against further vaccinations against a VIRUS and recognised its existence crystal clear, while later claiming that VIRUSes don't exist. And all of a sudden there are people who believe the latter...

The fact that vaccines were first tested on animals should also be familiar to you by now, right?

As far as RT is concerned, you're right. That's exactly why I wanted to say that RT has also become entangled in complete contradictions. I thought I had made that clear.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #43 on:** September 28, 2024, 06:03 »

Russian TV channels are not entangled and have no contradictions. They do not do journalism. All their disinformation is told on orders from the KGB and China. For a successful or unexpected use of weapons, it is necessary to first conduct a campaign to disinform the enemies. This is what the Russians do.

As for the rest, I don't argue with anything, I just ask questions.
Also, I don't know whether the vaccine was developed on dogs and cats or on monkeys and pigs. And these are all different animals. There are also mice and rats.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #44 on:** September 28, 2024, 06:06 »

Quote from: Wilm on September 28, 2024, 05:53

And all of a sudden there are people who believe the latter...

These are not people, they are bots, trolls and anti-vaxxers. They are paid by their enemies to spread lies and disinformation.

cascoly · « **Reply #45 on:** September 29, 2024, 10:00 »

Quote from: Wilm on September 27, 2024, 17:41

.....
The first human VIRUS discovered was the yellow fever VIRUS* (an RNA VIRUS) - discovered in 1901. Like all other VIRUSES, it is visible under an electron microscope. Electron microscopes have been around since the 1930s, when 3D software for computers did not yet exist. ....

but the first vaccines were used in the 18th century, before viruses were known - they used cow pox to vaccinate (from the latin for cow) against smallpox, and pasteur pioneered the use of other vaccines against disease such as rabies in the late 19th century

science often progresses without knowing the underlying facts - eg, mendel described genetic inheritance more than 100 years before we knew about DNA

Wilm · « **Reply #46 on:** September 29, 2024, 16:11 »

Quote from: cascoly on September 29, 2024, 10:00

Quote from: Wilm on September 27, 2024, 17:41
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The first human VIRUS discovered was the yellow fever VIRUS* (an RNA VIRUS) - discovered in 1901. Like all other VIRUSES, it is visible under an electron microscope. Electron microscopes have been around since the 1930s, when 3D software for computers did not yet exist. ....

but the first vaccines were used in the 18th century, before viruses were known - they used cow pox to vaccinate (from the latin for cow) against smallpox, and pasteur pioneered the use of other vaccines against disease such as rabies in the late 19th century

science often progresses without knowing the underlying facts - eg, mendel described genetic inheritance more than 100 years before we knew about DNA

I just wanted to point out that there are viruses. And that people who claim there are no viruses are living in a parallel world. If these people are asking others to use their brains, they should first take a good look at themselves.
But these people have gone underground anyway because they still have to search for certain TV shows that probably never existed ;-)

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