Author Topic: Freedom of the press (Read 33917 times)

RAW · « **on:** August 02, 2018, 08:47 »

The Press is the only occupation mentioned in The Constitution that is protected under law (Amendment 1).

I guess our beloved leader has not read The Constitution even though he took an oath to uphold it.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #1 on:** August 02, 2018, 10:17 »

You what?

dpimborough · « **Reply #2 on:** August 02, 2018, 13:32 »

More ramblings of a Trump hater

If the Pope stood up today and said Donald Trump was the second incarnation of "jesus" democrats and liberals would still hate him for no other reason than they have to hate him.

RAW · « **Reply #3 on:** August 02, 2018, 18:00 »

Freedom Of The Press is protected under The Constitution. It is the only occupation that is protected.
The Press is not the enemy of the people. It is the people.

. . . and yes I hate the fascist scumbag.

ShadySue · « **Reply #4 on:** August 03, 2018, 05:17 »

Quote from: RAW on August 02, 2018, 08:47

The Press is the only occupation mentioned in The Constitution that is protected under law (Amendment 1).

I guess our beloved leader has not read The Constitution even though he took an oath to uphold it.

While I agree with your sentiments, I must again point out that America does not equal the world. He's not 'our beloved' leader. Ours has plenty worries of her own!

Pauws99 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 03, 2018, 06:30 »

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on August 02, 2018, 13:32

More ramblings of a Trump hater

If the Pope stood up today and said Donald Trump was the second incarnation of "jesus" democrats and liberals would still hate him for no other reason than they have to hate him.

Why would I as a leftie care what the pope says?

ShadySue · « **Reply #6 on:** August 03, 2018, 06:38 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on August 03, 2018, 06:30

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on August 02, 2018, 13:32
More ramblings of a Trump hater

If the Pope stood up today and said Donald Trump was the second incarnation of "jesus" democrats and liberals would still hate him for no other reason than they have to hate him.
Why would I as a leftie care what the pope says?

I thought that particular post by Sammy made no sense at all.
Why would what the Pope (or anyone else) might say make any difference to the facts about Trump?

obj owl · « **Reply #7 on:** August 03, 2018, 06:38 »

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on August 02, 2018, 13:32

More ramblings of a Trump hater

If the Pope stood up today and said Donald Trump was the second incarnation of "jesus" democrats and liberals would still hate him for no other reason than they have to hate him.

Surely that would just confirm the Pope had mental health issues, but making the invisible visible may make sense to some.

ShadySue · « **Reply #8 on:** August 03, 2018, 06:42 »

For the avoidance of doubt, the Pope doesn't seem to be any more enamoured with Trump than most of the world:
https://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/18/opinions/donald-trump-pope-francis-christian-dantonio/index.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/pope-criticizes-trumps-policy-of-separating-immigrant-children-from-parents-at-the-mexican-border.html

etc

Pauws99 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 03, 2018, 07:06 »

Actually Trump supporters might run into some difficulties with his Popiness https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-pope-francis-changes-vaticans-13020555

Shelma1 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 03, 2018, 07:52 »

If the Pope stood up today and said Donald Trump was not a "Christian" and his policy of separating children from their parents was wrong. republicans and conservatives would still love him for no other reason than they have to love him.

dpimborough · « **Reply #11 on:** August 03, 2018, 11:17 »

Folks it was a tongue in cheek comment

Donald is not Jesus

The Pope would not state that he was

Juanmonino · « **Reply #12 on:** August 03, 2018, 13:24 »

Everybody knows free press has always been the enemy of the state, it is better not to think and believe whatever the leader dictates is the truth. Specially when the leader is a clown.

DallasP · « **Reply #13 on:** August 03, 2018, 19:44 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on August 03, 2018, 07:52

If the Pope stood up today and said Donald Trump was not a "Christian" and his policy of separating children from their parents was wrong. republicans and conservatives would still love him for no other reason than they have to love him.

BOOOM!

nobody · « **Reply #14 on:** August 03, 2018, 20:47 »

as a registered New York Republican and NRA member I guess I better stay off this topic

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #15 on:** August 04, 2018, 04:59 »

Quote from: nobody on August 03, 2018, 20:47

as a registered New York Republican and NRA member I guess I better stay off this topic

NRA are dope. Just watched Straight Outta Compton last week.. it was great.

gbalex · « **Reply #16 on:** August 06, 2018, 10:20 »

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on August 02, 2018, 13:32

More ramblings of a Trump hater

If the Pope stood up today and said Donald Trump was the second incarnation of "jesus" democrats and liberals would still hate him for no other reason than they have to hate him.

It might come as a surprise to find that there are a good number of Republican NON Trump supporters who hold him accountable for his numerous contemptible and documented actions; because many of those actions are in polar opposition to the actions Jesus thought were of paramount importance.

cathyslife · « **Reply #17 on:** August 06, 2018, 10:29 »

Quote from: gbalex on August 06, 2018, 10:20

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on August 02, 2018, 13:32
More ramblings of a Trump hater

If the Pope stood up today and said Donald Trump was the second incarnation of "jesus" democrats and liberals would still hate him for no other reason than they have to hate him.

It might come as a surprise to find that there are a good number of Republican NON Trump supporters who hold him accountable for his numerous contemptible and documented actions; because many of those actions are in polar opposition to the actions Jesus thought were of paramount importance.

I am happy to hear that. Because when I watch video of him at some of his rallies, spewing racism (and a whole lot of word vomit), while the fans clap and cheer, I just shake my head and wonder what has happened to people.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 06, 2018, 13:19 »

Quote from: gbalex on August 06, 2018, 10:20

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on August 02, 2018, 13:32
More ramblings of a Trump hater

If the Pope stood up today and said Donald Trump was the second incarnation of "jesus" democrats and liberals would still hate him for no other reason than they have to hate him.

It might come as a surprise to find that there are a good number of Republican NON Trump supporters who hold him accountable for his numerous contemptible and documented actions; because many of those actions are in polar opposition to the actions Jesus thought were of paramount importance.

Lets face it many people who shout loudest about being Christian would be first in the queue to crucify him again if he did a comeback tour.

wordplanet · « **Reply #19 on:** August 09, 2018, 19:46 »

I read an incredibly well-thought-out argument by a professor from Baylor University (a conservative Christian university in Texas) outlining why a true Christian could not vote for Trump. I just wish that more of his fellow conservatives had read it. (I'm a liberal New Yorker).

I'm no longer a Catholic but I love the new(ish) Pope - and you're right, many conservative "good" Christians would probably put Jesus in one of their for-profit prisons today, or run him out of town with their guns, but I digress....

Trump has no idea about the Constitution, the role of a free press, the role of the judiciary, and so many other things.

And for my UK pal, like many of my fellow Americans, I wish that he wasn't "our dear leader"... I was going to say I wish he was someone else's, but I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, and certainly not on those I hope will be our allies again once there is a new administration.

nobody · « **Reply #20 on:** August 09, 2018, 19:57 »

Quote from: wordplanet on August 09, 2018, 19:46

I read an incredibly well-thought-out argument by a professor from Baylor University (a conservative Christian university in Texas) outlining why a true Christian could not vote for Trump. I just wish that more of his fellow conservatives had read it. (I'm a liberal New Yorker).

I'm no longer a Catholic but I love the new(ish) Pope - and you're right, many conservative "good" Christians would probably put Jesus in one of their for-profit prisons today, or run him out of town with their guns, but I digress....

Trump has no idea about the Constitution, the role of a free press, the role of the judiciary, and so many other things.

And for my UK pal, like many of my fellow Americans, I wish that he wasn't "our dear leader"... I was going to say I wish he was someone else's, but I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, and certainly not on those I hope will be our allies again once there is a new administration.

Between Hillary and Trump I would've voted for Mickey Mouse had they run for president as an independent! Both were bad choices- I feel for the 'R' if Trump is their best! time for some new blood in both parties and a good Independent...

scribble · « **Reply #21 on:** August 10, 2018, 06:02 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on August 03, 2018, 07:52

If the Pope stood up today and said Donald Trump was not a "Christian" and his policy of separating children from their parents was wrong. republicans and conservatives would still love him for no other reason than they have to love him.

I'm sure they would scream "Who died and named him Pope!!!!"

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #22 on:** August 10, 2018, 09:03 »

Quote from: nobody on August 09, 2018, 19:57

Quote from: wordplanet on August 09, 2018, 19:46
I read an incredibly well-thought-out argument by a professor from Baylor University (a conservative Christian university in Texas) outlining why a true Christian could not vote for Trump. I just wish that more of his fellow conservatives had read it. (I'm a liberal New Yorker).

I'm no longer a Catholic but I love the new(ish) Pope - and you're right, many conservative "good" Christians would probably put Jesus in one of their for-profit prisons today, or run him out of town with their guns, but I digress....

Trump has no idea about the Constitution, the role of a free press, the role of the judiciary, and so many other things.

And for my UK pal, like many of my fellow Americans, I wish that he wasn't "our dear leader"... I was going to say I wish he was someone else's, but I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, and certainly not on those I hope will be our allies again once there is a new administration.

Between Hillary and Trump I would've voted for Mickey Mouse had they run for president as an independent! Both were bad choices- I feel for the 'R' if Trump is their best! time for some new blood in both parties and a good Independent...

Some other people, including myself, agree with you:

5.7% of the vote went to other candidates, like Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, or Evan McMullin

Trump haters are just like the Obama haters, they just flap their lips and repeat the same distortions of the truth or facts. Some spent/wasted eight years trying to prove Obama wasn't a citizen and couldn't be President. Hey wake up, he was already President and in office, give up. And for you Trump haters who twist his words into something he didn't say, have your fun. I can imagine your turn is next, on the getting bashed relentlessly and unnecessarily in 2020.

One thing I'm sure of, it's won't be Trump again!

CommuniCat · « **Reply #23 on:** August 10, 2018, 11:37 »

The reason is because that "profession" is inextricably linked to the concept of the fourth estate. The power, essentially, to bring truth to light. It may not be well known today, but a journalist who takes their responsibilities seriously aligns themselves with the "people" and especially against other blocs of power which tend to corrupt themselves unless they are held to account by each other.

The government, the military and even the judicial system represent other power blocs that the fourth estate is called to be critical of should such circumstances require it.

While legally, journalists are not especially recognised like law enforcement can be, the results of just bringing some truths to light and holding representatives from other blocs of power accountable can be extraordinary. (Especially in a democracy where voting decisions can be based on information that is supplied by the media.)

Basically, that's why the "profession" is a little different from, say, being an accountant or a plumber and requires protection for a healthy democracy. Where such protection is eroded, inevitably a totalitarian regime of some form or other is taking over - be that from the left or the right.

Just in case anyone is interested, one of the first things leftist totalitarian regimes concentrate on is the taking over the media in particular, and perhaps the "humanities" in general. And there is some very strange unscientific theory currently being held up as credible in many "western" universities at the moment.

RAW · « **Reply #24 on:** August 10, 2018, 12:56 »

My uncle died fighting fascism.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died fighting dictators.

What's happening now in America is a disgrace to their memory.

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