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Shelma1:
The vast majority of scientists agree on climate change. They may have minor disagreements about the messaging around it, but it’s disingenuous for conservatives to use these minor disagreements as some sort of evidence that climate change isn’t occurring.

The rest of your post amounts to confusion about special interests paying for “scientific” studies that “prove” the food they make a profit on is not unhealthy. One egg study, for example, was conducted on a small population of undernourished, underweight kids in Central America who had one egg a day added to their poor diets (along with other dietary changes). The added calories led to weight gain....no susprise there. And there was another study conducted on people whose cholesterol intake was already so high it was off the charts, and when an egg a day was added to their diets it made no measurable differences in cholesterol levels because their levels were already so high.
And of course media outlets need clicks and eyeballs, so they breathlessly report misinterpreted results of studies paid for by people selling you something.

Uncle Pete:

--- Quote from: Shelma1 on January 25, 2019, 13:28 ---The vast majority of scientists agree on climate change. They may have minor disagreements about the messaging around it, but it’s disingenuous for conservatives to use these minor disagreements as some sort of evidence that climate change isn’t occurring.

The rest of your post amounts to confusion about special interests paying for “scientific” studies that “prove” the food they make a profit on is not unhealthy. One egg study, for example, was conducted on a small population of undernourished, underweight kids in Central America who had one egg a day added to their poor diets (along with other dietary changes). The added calories led to weight gain....no susprise there. And there was another study conducted on people whose cholesterol intake was already so high it was off the charts, and when an egg a day was added to their diets it made no measurable differences in cholesterol levels because their levels were already so high.
And of course media outlets need clicks and eyeballs, so they breathlessly report misinterpreted results of studies paid for by people selling you something.

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True, somewhat true (special interests studies, not all of them) and true. Especially the last part about media outlets with click baiting headlines.

stockastic:

--- Quote from: Uncle Pete on January 25, 2019, 11:56 ---
--- Quote from: stockastic on January 25, 2019, 11:09 ---"Global warming" is just a shorthand term used by the media.  What's really happening is much more complicated.  As more solar energy gets trapped in the atmosphere, the overall average temperature increases but locally, all sorts of things happen as that energy circulates.   In the short term some regions may get colder as major air currents (driven in part by the Earth's tilt and rotation) shift and move.  That makes the political situation even tougher as people, and nations, start trying to figure out who wins and who loses.

In the long run we'll all lose if temperatures get high enough.  Right now that's the track we're on.

Climate scientists don't all agree on the details or the short term forecast - we don't yet have the instrumentation or the computing power to answer every question.  It's like oncologists - 9 out of 10 may agree you have cancer, but differ on their guesses about progression.  If you want to pin your hopes on that 1  out of 10 who says he's not sure yet, be my guest - I'll have the surgery.

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Steven Hawking says by 2600 we'll have about 100 years to colonize in space and get off the planet or we'll all die. Pretty gloomy prediction. But just like your cancer scenario, the truth is, maybe we don't know, but there's a good chance that Hawkins is in the right area of predicting the future.

Most of my argument with global warming fear and doom, isn't that it's happening, it is. I want to know how we're going to stop it, and feeling good, politics or signing an accord is nothing functional or useful. How do we stop what's happening? Is that possible?

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I reccommend the excellent, brief, readable and non-political book by Carl Pope and Michael Bloomberg. 

dk:
"I'm just pointing to an interesting contradiction, that warming causes cooling"

A very simplified way to look at this is that it's like what happens on a much smaller scale with a glass of water with ice on a hot summer day. First the water will become very cold as the ice melts and then will start getting warmer and warmer.

memakephoto:
Global warming is the term used to describe the overall warming of the earth caused by trapped greenhouse gases like methane, carbon dioxide and others released into the atmosphere.

Global warming leads to climate change which is far more complex as it can cause extremely cold weather which leads some people to say "so much for global warming". But climate change makes overall weather patterns more unpredictable. You can end up with mild winters in one place and record cold in another. You get rain in arid places and drought in places that should be fertile with lots of moisture. The key is unpredictable.

I trust my own senses. I see weather change and record temperatures and it leads me to believe it's a real thing. People that accept global warming as a phenomenon but deny human activity is at least partly responsible is, to me, like standing in the middle of your home as it burns down around you and saying "it's OK cause I didn't start the fire".

Of course people with a vested, i.e. financial, interest in denying climate change will deny climate change but I don't see why almost every scientist in the world would collude to spread a lie. Even if they did, I see what I see and whether we caused it or not, it's a concern.

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