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Global Warming is causing the Polar Vortex ???
Uncle Pete:
"Large swaths of the U.S. are experiencing the first “polar vortex” event of 2019, and The New York Times is out with an article suggesting cold snaps are becoming more frequent because of global warming."
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/20/polar-vortex-not-global-warming/
“As the Arctic gets warmer and warmer, the severe weather picks up,” Dr. Cohen said.
and a different climatologist says
“The frequency of cold waves have decreased during the past fifty years, not increased. That alone shows that such claims are baseless,” Mass said.
??? Now the climatologists are splitting and fracturing, like the political parties. Isn't science supposed to be based on conclusions from facts and evidence, not politics or a preconceived conclusion? At least I know where the NYT stands on the political issues. Global warming causes increased cold winters? Give me a break! ::)
Shelma1:
"Mass has stated publicly that he shares the scientific consensus that global warming is real and that human activity is a major cause of warming trend in the late 20th and 21st centuries.[9][10] He has been critical of the Paris Climate accord for not going far enough to address the negative impacts of climate change."
Tucker Carlson's "news" site takes Mass's statements completely out of context and purposely misinterprets them to imply that he doesn't believe in climate change.
"His blogs on anthropogenic global warming have elicited condemnation from local news media such as The Stranger[16] as well as members of activist environmental organizations[17] due to concerns that Mass's scientific approach to understanding and communicating the risks associated with global warming could result in public apathy or be used by climate change deniers to bolster their claims."
stockastic:
"Global warming" is just a shorthand term used by the media. What's really happening is much more complicated. As more solar energy gets trapped in the atmosphere, the overall average temperature increases but locally, all sorts of things happen as that energy circulates. In the short term some regions may get colder as major air currents (driven in part by the Earth's tilt and rotation) shift and move. That makes the political situation even tougher as people, and nations, start trying to figure out who wins and who loses.
In the long run we'll all lose if temperatures get high enough. Right now that's the track we're on.
Climate scientists don't all agree on the details or the short term forecast - we don't yet have the instrumentation or the computing power to answer every question. It's like oncologists - 9 out of 10 may agree you have cancer, but differ on their guesses about progression. If you want to pin your hopes on that 1 out of 10 who says he's not sure yet, be my guest - I'll have the surgery.
Uncle Pete:
--- Quote from: Shelma1 on January 25, 2019, 08:55 ---"Mass has stated publicly that he shares the scientific consensus that global warming is real and that human activity is a major cause of warming trend in the late 20th and 21st centuries.[9][10] He has been critical of the Paris Climate accord for not going far enough to address the negative impacts of climate change."
Tucker Carlson's "news" site takes Mass's statements completely out of context and purposely misinterprets them to imply that he doesn't believe in climate change.
"His blogs on anthropogenic global warming have elicited condemnation from local news media such as The Stranger[16] as well as members of activist environmental organizations[17] due to concerns that Mass's scientific approach to understanding and communicating the risks associated with global warming could result in public apathy or be used by climate change deniers to bolster their claims."
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Sounds true, but the two scientists don't agree, one says warming causes cooling, the other says we don't have worse cold snaps than we did before. Contradictions in interpretations even if they both agree that we need to do more about the projected negative effects of climate change. They could easily agree on the major points. I'm just pointing to an interesting contradiction, that warming causes cooling.
Just read that wheat and grains are god for us and have a correlation to lower heart disease and longer life. Won't the whole Gluten free crowd be surprised? And I don't mean the real 10% of the world population that need to be gluten free. The ones that jump on any bandwagon of new food that comes around the block.
Like my Sister who says free range chicken tastes better. Wow, a chicken that doesn't taste like other chickens, because of the cages it lived in? (free range chickens don't live outdoors, honest, it's just a name for different caged life) Read what Peta says, believers will trust Peta right? https://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/free-range-organic-meat-myths/ Plus if free range chickens did roam the yard, there's no dietary control, they can't be 100% vegetarian because they would eat bugs and worms and anything else they can find. Disappointing compared to the dream that they are organic and better, when it's just an excuse to charge more for a "feel good" raised chicken?
Did you see that egg yolks aren't bad for us and they don't cause higher cholesterol. Darn I know some people who have been eating eggbeaters and only whites for about 50 years. Oops, just an error in interpreting the data, now it's corrected, but I bet people are going to insist forever, that egg yolks are bad, and buy yolk free noodles as well. WOW!
"But there’s good reason not to fear the yolks. Scientific research has vindicated dietary cholesterol, finding that eating cholesterol has no real impact on cholesterol metabolism. That is, eating foods high in cholesterol does not mean you’ll develop high cholesterol. Some evidence suggests that eggs might even be beneficial for cholesterol by raising levels of HDL cholesterol, the “good” cholesterol that’s linked to a lower risk of heart disease."
Yes people will believe all kinds of things that aren't true and if they find out they were wrong they will defend the false claims to the end, and attack anyone who points out the truth. The full Moon has a strange effect on people. And it's better to eat lifeless, white slim, and throw away the good parts with the nutrition in eggs. The same people who pop pills, eat herbals (unregulated, untested, and may contain contamination) will throw away the most nutritious part of the egg, because of a fallacy.
http://time.com/4536939/egg-white-yolk-cholesterol/
The planet has warmer 1.6 degrees since the beginning of accurate measurements of temperatures. Wow, and we're going to stop or reverse the effects of industrial pollution, human environmental destruction caused by burning fossil fuels, deforestation with the rape and destruction of the rain forests, to point out just a few. We'll just sign some accord and promise to reduce the carbon and everything will be fine? Really, does anyone honestly think we can stop a downhill locomotive with no brakes, gathering momentum, by putting toothpicks and pebbles on the tracks? Honest?
Or maybe this is just a climate cycle and we didn't cause the change and can't stop it? How would we stop another ice age?o
Real simple, I don't think we can stop or reverse global warming if we did cause it. A piece of paper or a contract won't do anything. SOmeone needs to show a factual plan and how, then lets talk about what to do. You need plans to build a bridge or a house, you need plans if we are going to stop global warming. Good feelings, or wanting something to happen, aren't science or plans.
Uncle Pete:
--- Quote from: stockastic on January 25, 2019, 11:09 ---"Global warming" is just a shorthand term used by the media. What's really happening is much more complicated. As more solar energy gets trapped in the atmosphere, the overall average temperature increases but locally, all sorts of things happen as that energy circulates. In the short term some regions may get colder as major air currents (driven in part by the Earth's tilt and rotation) shift and move. That makes the political situation even tougher as people, and nations, start trying to figure out who wins and who loses.
In the long run we'll all lose if temperatures get high enough. Right now that's the track we're on.
Climate scientists don't all agree on the details or the short term forecast - we don't yet have the instrumentation or the computing power to answer every question. It's like oncologists - 9 out of 10 may agree you have cancer, but differ on their guesses about progression. If you want to pin your hopes on that 1 out of 10 who says he's not sure yet, be my guest - I'll have the surgery.
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Steven Hawking says by 2600 we'll have about 100 years to colonize in space and get off the planet or we'll all die. Pretty gloomy prediction. But just like your cancer scenario, the truth is, maybe we don't know, but there's a good chance that Hawkins is in the right area of predicting the future.
Most of my argument with global warming fear and doom, isn't that it's happening, it is. I want to know how we're going to stop it, and feeling good, politics or signing an accord is nothing functional or useful. How do we stop what's happening? Is that possible?
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