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Microbius

« Reply #225 on: March 21, 2012, 08:15 »
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You know that Battle for Haditha is a movie not a documentary right?


« Reply #226 on: March 21, 2012, 08:20 »
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Its called the entertainment industry for a reason. Its purpose is to make money, not accurate historical documentaries.
Yes, Americans like to feel good about themselves and will pay money to watch films where the Americans are the good guys and always win.
Don't go around using movies made for entertainment purposes as true of how the film makers or the Americans see themselves. Take it for what it is. Entertainment.


Yes, you can call it entertainment or whatever, but movies will affect the viewer in a subtle way even if the viewer knows it's only fiction and entertainment.

PS. The best war movies: Das Boot http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082096/ Der Untergang http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/
Yes movies like Saving Private Ryan looks good and has great battle scenes, but it's still stupid heroic action crap.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2012, 08:24 by Perry »

Microbius

« Reply #227 on: March 21, 2012, 08:47 »
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I wouldn't critcize Borg's sources at all in the first instance, he was citing Rambo 3 to show how public opinion in the US has shifted. A great source for that, the reason I made my comment was that I know Battle for Haditha is a mockumentary and that is made to look like a documentary. It seemed to be cited as showing the true emotions of the soldiers during in the incident, when in fact it is just a scripted film like any other.

« Reply #228 on: March 21, 2012, 08:51 »
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You know that Battle for Haditha is a movie not a documentary right?


Yep! But certainly is more realistic than many war movies in the same time... I think that this movie will not motivate any teenager to give his life for his country (what a paradox, what is your country without your life, from your point of view..?. ::))
Can we notice now that movie is not always just an entertainment ?

Its called the entertainment industry for a reason. Its purpose is to make money, not accurate historical documentaries.
Yes, Americans like to feel good about themselves and will pay money to watch films where the Americans are the good guys and always win.
Don't go around using movies made for entertainment purposes as true of how the film makers or the Americans see themselves. Take it for what it is. Entertainment.


Yes, you can call it entertainment or whatever, but movies will affect the viewer in a subtle way even if the viewer knows it's only fiction and entertainment.

PS. The best war movies: Das Boot http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082096/ Der Untergang http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/
Yes movies like Saving Private Ryan looks good and has great battle scenes, but it's still stupid heroic action crap.


Good point and excellent choice...

Yes! "Saving private Ryan" is good film in production matter, but as you say another heroic story... But I think is step forward... Especially "Letters from Ivo Jima"
Serial "Band of Brothers" is better story, also heroic but with many examples of stupidity of war...

P.S.

I am not talking only about the American audience, I'm talking about all audience which can be motivated  with war desire...
There is no big differences in kids age between 15 and 18 years ...
But 18 years old kid offically can carry uniform and lethal gun...
« Last Edit: March 21, 2012, 17:26 by borg »

wut

« Reply #229 on: March 21, 2012, 11:02 »
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A great documentary about the basis of today's economy and consumerism
Pyramids of Waste (Full Length - English Subtitles) aka '' The Lightbulb Conspiracy ''


This is a c/p description: Consumerism = 1. Advertisement - 2. Planned Obsolescence - 3. Credit :
These 3 stages of modern business are worth noting regarding the promulgation of today's world wide consumer system which is presently stripping the natural wealth of the planet for all inhabitants, including man.

If the human race will survive, our ancestors (in a hundred years or so) won't be able to answer a simple question; how is it possible we were so * dumb and shortsighted, blinded by greed really.

« Reply #230 on: March 21, 2012, 14:10 »
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^^^^ @ WUT, maybe you had better find a different line of work then because microstock images are used mostly for ADVERTISING.

wut

« Reply #231 on: March 21, 2012, 14:37 »
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^^^^ @ WUT, maybe you had better find a different line of work then because microstock images are used mostly for ADVERTISING.

I thought about that, that planned obsolescence is good for our business. But that doesn't matter if you look at the big picture and if you're not that shortsighted. What are you going to do when all resources will be gone? Eat the money you've made of off MS (even if it were millions)?

« Reply #232 on: March 21, 2012, 15:37 »
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^^^^ @ WUT, maybe you had better find a different line of work then because microstock images are used mostly for ADVERTISING.

I thought about that, that planned obsolescence is good for our business. But that doesn't matter if you look at the big picture and if you're not that shortsighted. What are you going to do when all resources will be gone? Eat the money you've made of off MS (even if it were millions)?


I didn't say that planned obsolescence is good. I only was pointing out that our participation in it is hypocritical; if we are railing against it on these forums.
As they say, you are either part of the solution or part of the problem. As microstockers we are part of the problem.

wut

« Reply #233 on: March 21, 2012, 16:07 »
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^^^^ @ WUT, maybe you had better find a different line of work then because microstock images are used mostly for ADVERTISING.

I thought about that, that planned obsolescence is good for our business. But that doesn't matter if you look at the big picture and if you're not that shortsighted. What are you going to do when all resources will be gone? Eat the money you've made of off MS (even if it were millions)?


I didn't say that planned obsolescence is good. I only was pointing out that our participation in it is hypocritical; if we are railing against it on these forums.
As they say, you are either part of the solution or part of the problem. As microstockers we are part of the problem.

That's, unfortunately, correct

RacePhoto

« Reply #234 on: March 21, 2012, 22:34 »
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^^^^ @ WUT, maybe you had better find a different line of work then because microstock images are used mostly for ADVERTISING.

I thought about that, that planned obsolescence is good for our business. But that doesn't matter if you look at the big picture and if you're not that shortsighted. What are you going to do when all resources will be gone? Eat the money you've made of off MS (even if it were millions)?


I didn't say that planned obsolescence is good. I only was pointing out that our participation in it is hypocritical; if we are railing against it on these forums.
As they say, you are either part of the solution or part of the problem. As microstockers we are part of the problem.

That's, unfortunately, correct

Actually - Charles Rosner, a renowned advertiser and marketer from the 60s through the 90s, actually wrote "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem" for VISTA as a recruitment slogan in 1967. Subtle difference. I remember it from protest mantras of some sort.

Better yet, he might have failed because I have no clue what VISTA was back then? Health care reform, I don't have a clue.


 

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