Author Topic: Join Here, I promise to spam more often. (Read 3413 times)

Uncle Pete · « **on:** August 09, 2013, 23:41 »

Seems I just don't have it for publicizing, even if I understanding how it should be done.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hodag-Media/114201125398572

I'll try to have one different and interesting (not suitable for stock or anything else) photo a month.

Please follow me on Facebook.

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #1 on:** August 10, 2013, 21:13 »

What are you trying to do?

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #2 on:** August 12, 2013, 21:49 »

Get people to like the site so I get statistics. Get people to follow. But since I'm really pretty bad at spam and hype, it's pretty low key.

At 30, a "commercial" site gets stats. Well, I did that and I have two views and one talked about. Hmm, maybe I should consider pushing harder? LOL

It's just for fun and that's all I wanted. Nothing here of importance.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hodag-Media/114201125398572

And some day I might have a blog of no consequence too?

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on August 10, 2013, 21:13

What are you trying to do?

DF_Studios · « **Reply #3 on:** August 13, 2013, 07:51 »

Check out fiverr.com - you can buy likes.

djpadavona · « **Reply #4 on:** August 13, 2013, 08:12 »

Quote from: DF_Studios on August 13, 2013, 07:51

Check out fiverr.com - you can buy likes.

Do NOT do this. Despite claims to the otherwise, most of your likes will either be inactive accounts or worse. It is theorized that Google looks at your social activity to determine your own quality -

1) If you have say 50 followers, and they are actively engaged with you, it is seen as a small positive.
2) If you have 5000 followers, and they hardly ever engage with you if at all, then it is pretty obvious you acquired them in an underhanded way. If you acquire low quality followers, then it is likely you too are low quality. So you get punished in search results.

There is occasional talk about this on MOZ and Performancing. Don't do this. It's the worst possible advice you can follow.

djpadavona · « **Reply #5 on:** August 13, 2013, 08:19 »

I should back up the above statement with some proof. We had a Warmpicture member who encouraged us to use Fiverr for our Twitter account. I think we gained something ridiculous like 20000 Followers overnight. So at the time, we had a ton of Twitter followers, but only about 200-250 Facebook followers. I also had my own Twitter account which had about 500 followers.

Each account announced coupon offers as thanks for following us. The Facebook account, and my own Twitter account, vastly outperformed the Fiverr built Twitter account despite having just a tiny percentage of its followers. The FB account and my own Twitter account garnered a small yet predictable number of additional sales for us each month, whereas the Fiverr built account did little or nothing despite a lot of effort by the person managing it.

So what did we get for the $5? Nothing, and potentially a search engine penalty for engaging in it. Caveat Emptor.

Ron · « **Reply #6 on:** August 13, 2013, 13:44 »

I dont understand. I have a business page. SO what if I get 15 thousand real likes and only have 200 friends? Is that a bad thing? How does COca COla with a millions likes fair?

djpadavona · « **Reply #7 on:** August 13, 2013, 15:13 »

Because name brands attract real people to BS about whatever. Why? I have no idea. I can't see myself ever becoming a social media "fan" of Coke so I can talk nonsense about liking their product. But enough people do, and that's where your numbers come from.

With all of the R&D that Google can afford, I'm absolutely certain they figured out years ago how to tell if a company is scheming social media to make themselves look more viable than they really are.

My advice is, don't do it. If you do, it's your $5 and your reputation, not mine.

Ron · « **Reply #8 on:** August 13, 2013, 15:15 »

I am not going to do it. I do it the honest way. I know the likes on Coca Cola are real, I was just wondering how they know they are real likes. And if I manage to get some sort of viral exposure, how will Google know that was real too.

gillian vann · « **Reply #9 on:** August 13, 2013, 16:19 »

it's actually incredibly unfair, as the USA has x20 population of my country, that magic number of "400" is much harder to reach organically. you can go into a photo forum and find a thread where strangers will like your page, it's not hard, but it's pointless IMHO.

djpadavona · « **Reply #10 on:** August 13, 2013, 21:04 »

I don't think the point is to have more followers. It is to have more engagement. If there is a buzz around what you are doing, it helps. Another blog I write saw a nice steady growth in organic search traffic as engagement on my FB page increased. I don't think it was a coincidence.

Think of it in terms of an Engagement to Followers ratio. You want that ratio to be high. If you have a ton of Followers and no engagement, then the search engines can make 2 assumptions. Either you -

1) Gamed the system and bought your followers
2) or your followers are legit but your content is too poor to get people engaged

Either way, it gives the search engine a reason to push your website lower in the rankings. Try to keep your content high quality, and your followers legitimate.

But honestly, how much engagement can we expect? How many people seriously want to talk about my latest stock photos? Except for comedic purposes of course.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #11 on:** August 13, 2013, 21:47 »

The Internet is the whole world, why would your country make a difference. I don't understand? Also what's the 400 about? Does that change something for placement on FB?

To answer the original post and why. I needed 30 to get stats, which I can see now. And they are dismal, but that was fun.

This was not some marketing ploy or anything more than what it really says. Just trying to get stats. That and I think I need to post more often than once a month, if I was really trying, right? LOL

So what's unfair if the whole world is your audience? I don't understand.

Quote from: gillian on August 13, 2013, 16:19

it's actually incredibly unfair, as the USA has x20 population of my country, that magic number of "400" is much harder to reach organically. you can go into a photo forum and find a thread where strangers will like your page, it's not hard, but it's pointless IMHO.

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