User "stoker2014", constantly trolling the Forum and spamming every topic with distorted political agenda, needs to be banned.   I am Admin of outdoors oriented Forum for 10+ years and know very well where this kind of behaviour leads if not dealt with.   

He just restored from Garbage Can his own series of spam posts.  MSG is variable resource to photographers fighting challenging industry conditions;  last thing we need is Forum that looks and feels like trash.  This is polite request to whoever is responsible for Administering MSG Forum to consider terminating "stoker2014" account.

Whoever reads this post, there is no need to respond if you don't have time or don't feel like.  Just add "+1" if you agree;   each + counts as 1 vote in favour.  The more votes this request reaches, more clear will be indication what community feels is the right thing to do.

Interesting to watch this going on. Good Luck!

i fully support assigning stoker's garbage posts to their appropriate oblivion, but unfortunately, he skirts below the reasons for banning members - so on free speech bases i don't support banning this ignorant, obnoxious, asinine,  hypocritical member

response to hate speech is truth speech or ignore the poster. i tend towards the first, responding to the most egregious posts so lurkers don't accept his noxious posts as anything approaching reality. if they revive threads from garbage it's easy enuf to return them to oblivion

Regarding "free speech", stoker2014 apparently does not adhere to this principle as he moves the posts he does not agree with to garbage bin. Why to defend right to free speech of somebody who does not respect it themselves?

All those who upvote a post from a Russian troll, write your nicknames on the forum. I will add to my ignore all those who have not been added yet. Unless you are cowards, of course.

30% of the upvotes are from Russian trolls and Russian Na.zis, but 70% of the upvotes were clearly not given by Russians.

Zero talent! Aren't you tired of having fun yet?
 

f8, I've added you to ignore list.
Who else put a plus sign? 

The problem with trolls and people in general who seek attention is they actually have to reply to you to tell you they are ignoring you.

Do not argue with lowlife.  He keeps moving this post to garbage can several times a day trying to cover his tracks, but others restore it. 
It is quite unbelievable this behaviour is tolerated.  Messages to Admin have been sent. 

 

Regarding "free speech".  It doesn't apply to privately owned forums.

This is true.

Also, I finally found the rules of this forum. It is under the Registration Agreement. It says:

"Registration Agreement
You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law."

As for the US Federal Law, under the first amendment, Free Speech does not exist if it is harmful to others. Re. why Alex Jones lost his case last year about the lies/conspiracies he told about the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

I can�t lie, never in my life did I think this would be a regular occurrence in central Tel Aviv.

https://x.com/WarMonitors/status/1935657429225669023

I recommend that everyone who does not support Russian Na.zis transfer money to the Ukrainian charity fund of Serhiy Prytula! This is a reliable volunteer, millions of Ukrainians trust him. All your money will be used to purchase weapons for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and to eliminate Russian orcs.

https://prytulafoundation.org/en/

Trolls and people who only want to disrupt the forum. This is driving away the people who care and want to discuss Stock Photography, video or earning money on a personal level. The entire forum suffers and dies.

  The three most important things to remember about the English VAPs (Verbal Attack Patterns) are
the following:
  1. They can be recognized by the presence of abnormal stress patterns.
  2. Their purpose is to demonstrate the power of the attacker over the
     victim by (a) getting and holding the victim's attention and
     (b) evoking an emotional response.
  3. The attacker never is after what would be a normal response to the
     same words in a neutral sentence; if the attack is a question,
     for example, the attacker has no interest in the answer.

Trolls are only needy people who want attention and never want to actually discuss or answer anything that would make a reasonable discussion. Instead of answering a question, the VAP will just return with a personal attack and ignore the subject or what anyone else has offered.

This is all about disruption and control.


"Registration Agreement
You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law."

Trolls and people who only want to disrupt the forum. This is driving away the people who care and want to discuss Stock Photography, video or earning money on a personal level. The entire forum suffers and dies.

  The three most important things to remember about the English VAPs (Verbal Attack Patterns) are
the following:
  1. They can be recognized by the presence of abnormal stress patterns.
  2. Their purpose is to demonstrate the power of the attacker over the
     victim by (a) getting and holding the victim's attention and
     (b) evoking an emotional response.
  3. The attacker never is after what would be a normal response to the
     same words in a neutral sentence; if the attack is a question,
     for example, the attacker has no interest in the answer.

Trolls are only needy people who want attention and never want to actually discuss or answer anything that would make a reasonable discussion. Instead of answering a question, the VAP will just return with a personal attack and ignore the subject or what anyone else has offered.

This is all about disruption and control.


"Registration Agreement
You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law."

Uncle Pete, if I understood correctly, you are not a young man anymore. Why do you think only in fashionable and modern terms? You were a bad student at school and don't know any other words?

The only troll in this thread is zeljkok. He is evil, mentally unstable and inadequate. And it is strange that a person of your age does not understand this.

As for me, I sometimes use the technique of �patage. Read up on what �patage is and you will understand that the purpose of �patage is not to spread anger, hatred and trolling.

 

And you are lying when you write that you want to discuss only stocks. There are many sections on this forum, for example the off-topic section. Tell the moderator to delete this section and delete many other sections too. Make the forum uninteresting.
But personally, you always like to write in topics in the off-topic section.

Moreover, you spend much more time on this forum than I do. 

Quote from: Uncle Pete on Yesterday at 12:39

Trolls ...This is driving away the people who care and want to discuss Stock Photography, video or earning money on a personal level. The entire forum suffers and dies...

Count me as one of those who visits very infrequently these days because of time-wasting noise drowning out useful discussion.

It's a shame; it used to be a very helpful resource

Yes, this is excellent point by Uncle Pete & the main motivation why I started this to see what community thinks - which is quite apparent by now. 
Except for social media groups there is no traditional online Forum that allows to openly discuss across Microstock agencies.   People with experience and will to share that knowledge are gravitating out, as Jo Ann just pointed out. 

Policy that regular member with enough posts has ability to move posts to trash can is another issue;  you have Troll that acquired that right by posting enough spam, and now has repeatedly tried to hide this thread to cover his tracks.  For that we could vote say 3 Mods.  This worked really well elsewhere (not microstock).  People with maturity, clear head and regular presence.  I.e from top of my head I'd nominate  Uncle Pete,  cobalt and Jo Ann.   But this is next step;  let's first see if Stoker will be dealt with.  If not, then it's maybe time to really fold.