Why don't we all join and pin thousands of images with just text, explaining that we make money from our images and don't want them to be used this way?  Explaining the various licenses, how cheap we sell compared to the traditional sites and that were already being screwed by some of the microstock sites.  Could also have lots of links to where they can buy our stuff.  Then they will know exactly how we feel about this and will have no excuses if legal action has to be perused later on.

Quote from: pancaketom on May 30, 2012, 19:43

Is there anyway to make it so that when they pin an image from your web site they actually get a different image - perhaps one that says "I am trying to steal content online", or maybe a really nasty porno image.

I've modified my .htaccess file on my seanlockephotography.com site, so any attempt to pin from the Pinterest agent gets this image instead:
http://pinterest.com/pin/269793833897646473/
(which I host on their server, which is awesome)

Any ideas for better text?  That was just temp text...  I don't think anyone takes from my domain - I just wanted to write a blog post about it...

Excellent idea.

'Pinch-it'

That's what they should use instead of 'Pin-it'.

How is serving up an image of my choice when someone tries to have the Pinterest servers illegally copy it from my domain for redistribution against the site terms not "going to work out in my favor"?

I've modified my .htaccess file on my seanlockephotography.com site, so any attempt to pin from the Pinterest agent gets this image instead:
http://pinterest.com/pin/269793833897646473/
(which I host on their server, which is awesome)

Any ideas for better text?  That was just temp text...  I don't think anyone takes from my domain - I just wanted to write a blog post about it...

I would leave it. The words are small enough for them to understand.

Quote from: drugal on May 31, 2012, 09:11

I don't really have time for this, so what this all boils down to... in a nutshell: you can't criminalize the behavior of the vast majority of ppl in a democracy (you can in the soviet union, or the nazi germany) so at the end of the day, one way or the other, you are going to be the outcast.

That's what you can come up with?  Maybe change your name to "dribble".

 

It's not about me liking anything. I already asked you once: If it's such a clear case, how come you are not suing, instead of this useless whining? now available in .jpg too

As I've already said, it isn't materially affecting me yet.  So, I'm not suing anyone.  I just don't like it, so I'm raising awareness.  Speaking of useless, why not reply to this post too?

Quote from: pancaketom on May 30, 2012, 19:43

Is there anyway to make it so that when they pin an image from your web site they actually get a different image - perhaps one that says "I am trying to steal content online", or maybe a really nasty porno image.

I've modified my .htaccess file on my seanlockephotography.com site, so any attempt to pin from the Pinterest agent gets this image instead:
http://pinterest.com/pin/269793833897646473/
(which I host on their server, which is awesome)

Any ideas for better text?  That was just temp text...  I don't think anyone takes from my domain - I just wanted to write a blog post about it...

How did you modify the file?  I tried blocking the user_agent myself but that didn't work.  You must have a better solution.  Can you share?

What is the exact code?

It's affecting me materially.

Quote from: sjlocke on May 31, 2012, 05:54

Quote from: pancaketom on May 30, 2012, 19:43

Is there anyway to make it so that when they pin an image from your web site they actually get a different image - perhaps one that says "I am trying to steal content online", or maybe a really nasty porno image.

I've modified my .htaccess file on my seanlockephotography.com site, so any attempt to pin from the Pinterest agent gets this image instead:
http://pinterest.com/pin/269793833897646473/
(which I host on their server, which is awesome)

Any ideas for better text?  That was just temp text...  I don't think anyone takes from my domain - I just wanted to write a blog post about it...

How did you modify the file?  I tried blocking the user_agent myself but that didn't work.  You must have a better solution.  Can you share?

What is the exact code?

It's affecting me materially.

I'll share what I've got:

To just block the hotlinking, change the last line in the .htaccess code to:

RewriteRule \.(jpeg|jpg|gif|png)$ - [F]

To do what Sean has done, you'd need to do this:

RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http(s)?://(.*\.)?yourwebsite.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http(s)?://(.*\.)?anotheroneofyoursites.net [NC]
RewriteRule \.(jpeg|jpg|gif|png)$ http : //outsidewebsite.com/replacementimage.jpg [NC,R,L]

You'd have to change the 3rd, 4th and 5th line that I have in red. (get rid of the spaces before and after the semicolon from the 4th line)

The 4th line is used if you want to allow one of your other sites to hotlink images from your site.   If you have more sites, you can add more lines like the 4th line otherwise you can delete it.

The 5th line is the image you want them to see.  you'll have to host the image somewhere else otherwise it will loop back onto your site and won't work.

To do what Sean has done, you'd need to do this:

RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http(s)?://(.*\.)?anotheroneofyoursites.net [NC]
RewriteRule \.(jpeg|jpg|gif|png)$ http : //outsidewebsite.com/replacementimage.jpg [NC,R,L]

You'd have to change the 3rd and 4th line that I have in red. (get rid of the spaces before and after the semicolon from the 4th line)

The 3rd line is used if you want to allow one of your other sites to hotlink images from your site.   If you have more sites, you can add more lines like the 3rd line otherwise you can delete it.

The 4th line is the image you want them to see.  you'll have to host the image somewhere else otherwise it will loop back onto your site and won't work.

The code doesn't mention Pinterest anywhere specifically as user_agent?

Because on simple hotlinking protection doesn't stop pinning.

Quote from: grafix04 on May 31, 2012, 12:15

To do what Sean has done, you'd need to do this:

RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http(s)?://(.*\.)?yourwebsite.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http(s)?://(.*\.)?anotheroneofyoursites.net [NC]
RewriteRule \.(jpeg|jpg|gif|png)$ http : //outsidewebsite.com/replacementimage.jpg [NC,R,L]

You'd have to change the 3rd, 4th and 5th line that I have in red. (get rid of the spaces before and after the semicolon from the 4th line)

The 4th line is used if you want to allow one of your other sites to hotlink images from your site.   If you have more sites, you can add more lines like the 4th line otherwise you can delete it.

The 5th line is the image you want them to see.  you'll have to host the image somewhere else otherwise it will loop back onto your site and won't work.

The code doesn't mention Pinterest anywhere specifically as user_agent?

Because on simple hotlinking protection doesn't stop pinning.

I haven't done what Sean's done.  I've just blocked hotlinking and replaced the image they hotlink to.  A white square image.  I just put up my code in case someone wants it.

This is what I finally put together:
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} Pinterest [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(jpe?g|gif|bmp|png)$ http://media-cache3.pinterest.com/upload/269793833897646473_AVQPpkbR_f.jpg [R]

For some reason, using the HTTP_REFERRER was not working, but the USER_AGENT var did.

Just put that into your .htaccess file at the top level directory or wherever your apache looks for it.

Quote from: grafix04 on May 31, 2012, 13:10

I haven't done what Sean's done.  I've just blocked hotlinking and replaced the image they hotlink to.  A white square image.  I just put up my code in case someone wants it.

Can I test if I can pin from your website and get the image I try to pin, or the one you redirect to?

Don't push your luck, I'm anonymous here  Besides, as I mentioned a few days ago, I'm revamping my site so it's off the air for a while.

I like Sean's code but does it block all hotlinking or just pinning from Pinterest?

There was an error in my code that I just noticed.  I deleted one too many lines but I've added it back.