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Microstock Photography Forum - General => Off Topic => Topic started by: Bateleur on October 25, 2007, 09:40

Title: Scoopt
Post by: Bateleur on October 25, 2007, 09:40
Anyone here submitted photographs to Scoopt ...

http://www.scoopt.com (http://www.scoopt.com)

Know anything about it? Obviously it's just for newsworthy, editorial stuff, and sometimes I've caught moments like that.

They demand 12 months exclusivity ...

When you send Scoopt a photo, you automatically grant us an exclusive worldwide licence to market that photo for a period of twelve months. During this twelve-month period, you agree not to publish the photo anywhere else.

However, if we do not believe that we can market your photo(s), we will tell you quickly and you will not be subject to an exclusive licence.

When the twelve months are up, the licence becomes non-exclusive. We will still try to sell your photo but now you can also publish it yourself on a blog or a picture-sharing site -- or anywhere else at all.


And they offer 40%.

Any opinions ... experience? Anyone know what sort of sums newsworthy photos go for? I know that's a bit like asking how long is a piece of string, but any ballpark figures?
Title: Re: Scoopt
Post by: domino on October 25, 2007, 13:27
Scoopt (owned by Getty) is a total joke and a ploy by Jonathan Klien at Getty to trick consumers that snatch celebs in dicey moments into giving the content to Getty so that they can negotiate high rates the magazines and take 60%.  99.99% of everything that goes up on the site never gets a sale - not a drop, not a dime, just a marketing ploy by Getty so they can say they are in the consumer journalism space. 

However, every now and then, a consumer may get something really juicy (the 0.01% of images) and be so stupid as to send it to Scoopt or Mr Paparazzi (www.mrpaparazzi.com) .  When they get your juicy photo - once a year it can be something really nice - they give it to the Getty Sales reps who go and negotiate prices with the mags and start bidding wars for your images.  They sell to the highest bidder and they keep 60% - like a broker that does nothing in the sale of a home or an insurance policy - a total rip off and they want 60% of a one time sale.

NOTE TO ANYONE THAT READS THIS:  If you get something really juicy, you will know it's juicy and you should go directly to the top 6 overpayers of celeb content - People, US Weekly, OK Magazine, In Touch, Life and Style, Star, and Hello! (UK) and sell the image yourself.  Tell them you will grant them the exclusive rights for USA print & online and make them pay top dollar - these places have huge budgets and $150k for something juicy is not unheard of for them to pay - e.g. these mags have paid over $3M for certain images in the past. 

After you take care of the USA sale, go and license the international sales exclusively and separately on your own as well.  Don't give these hawks 60% of your sale.  You can do this yourself for that once in a lifetime photo.  Don't let these fronts rip you off.  For non-juicy content, you are better posting on a micropayment site than on Scoopt.
Title: Re: Scoopt
Post by: Bateleur on October 25, 2007, 15:50
Wow! Doesn't sound so good.  :o
Title: Re: Scoopt
Post by: digiology on October 25, 2007, 16:07
Well I went ahead and signed up (before reading domino's post). I have been sitting on some photos for a while - mountain pine beetle infested trees and snarled traffic in Vancouver due to the Canada Line construction - certainly nothing juicy. I cannot see it being much worse than .30 from shutterstock - so what the heck!

I will post back if anything happens.
Title: Re: Scoopt
Post by: Karimala on October 26, 2007, 06:46
I've been with Scoopt since before Getty bought the company, and haven't sold a thing.