Author Topic: Still funny? Not anymore? (Read 14389 times)

stoker2014 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 21, 2025, 06:41 »

1. Britain could not fight russia for more than two months, the Deputy Chief of Defence Staff has admitted.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/26/weakened-uk-military-two-months-war-russia/

2. French troops are fleeing Africa because they were driven out by Russian troops.

I wish the EU success without Ukraine!

trabuco · « **Reply #26 on:** February 21, 2025, 06:44 »

Quote from: pancaketom on February 19, 2025, 15:54

Sadly, it hasn't really been funny since about 2015. As a citizen of the USA, I apologize to the world for all the damage we are causing and will cause in the future. I have never supported him and am utterly baffled why ~33% of the voters did, but due to our outdated system it was enough to put him back in power. He is causing enough damage legally, not to mention the illegal power grabs underway. It would be slightly funny and interesting to watch if it wasn't happening to my country and the world we all have to live in.

You don't have to.

Only Trump is responsible for Trump. Not even his voters.

Things are not so easy: We are not parrots, we have opinions and contradictions.

trabuco · « **Reply #27 on:** February 21, 2025, 06:53 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 21, 2025, 06:41

1. Britain could not fight russia for more than two months, the Deputy Chief of Defence Staff has admitted.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/26/weakened-uk-military-two-months-war-russia/

2. French troops are fleeing Africa because they were driven out by Russian troops.

I wish the EU success without Ukraine!

Remember, change your flag to the Soviet one. Trump wants it.

The United Kingdom has four Vanguard-class submarines armed with nuclear armed Trident missiles. A single one submarine can fully destroy Russia.

France has 4 more.

We don't need the USA. A war is impossible.

But Risk with beers is cool when you are fifteen.

trabuco · « **Reply #28 on:** February 21, 2025, 07:55 »

One more thing about ignorance and Europe: we are not unarmed and we are not flower-power people. We have been at war for our entire history. The last one: 50 million dead.

Mi country has been at war since the Roman Empire, with foreigners and with ourselves in a lot of civil wars in modern times (and with the USA

).

We love peace now, and so the germans or the french... we have now the longest peace-period of our recent history (1939-today). But we are armed too. My country has developed a new class of stealh attack submarine with launching capabilities designed with the aim to be switched quickly to nuclear in a war scenario (you can't read it in the news). One active, three coming. New frigates (close to your destroyers) are coming too.

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France is developing new attack submarines too.

Maybe armed forces in Europe are not the USA, but we can defend our countries and our friends too.

Not a single Russian soldier will ever put his feet on an ally country. Never.

[sorry: the last one was in the 90's. Always forget that horrible s.
Ukraine already was at war for the last years before the invassion, a civil war.
We don't have accurate information about that, but before the invassion, the country was already broken and many people were pro-Russia (not today) Ukaine was a failed state ruled by oligarchs]

stoker2014 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 21, 2025, 08:56 »

Quote from: trabuco on February 21, 2025, 06:34

I'm confused about your Ukrainian flag.

So, your flag is the pre-Ukraine one.

How is this flag different from the one that hung over Europe?

stoker2014 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 21, 2025, 09:12 »

Quote from: trabuco on February 21, 2025, 06:53

We don't need the USA. A war is impossible.

I will not comment on the Russian propaganda that you constantly write.
I will say this, the Russians have more nuclear weapons than the EU. The cowardly EU countries will never start a nuclear war first. Therefore, I give 100% that the EU countries will surrender all their nuclear weapons to the Russian occupiers.
As for Great Britain, it has not been in the EU for a long time and this country can be considered the same as Canada, separate.
As for some obligations of the USA (the Budapest memorandum), Ukraine and the countries of the axis of evil have already seen how the USA fulfills its obligations.
But, considering that you are under the full influence of Russian propaganda, considering that the residents of the EU are also under it (you are now representing the EU here), you of course think that you are the smartest, most beautiful, invincible, successful and lucky.
But why did you create this topic then?

So you write here that Europe doesn't need the USA. The EU is the strongest military union on the planet! Ukraine's problems are only Ukraine's problems! Russians are not your enemies!
Continue these slogans. Show the level of political literacy of EU residents.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #31 on:** February 21, 2025, 11:27 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 20, 2025, 14:44

What happened to eggs in the US? Why do 10 eggs cost more than $10? Why do people fight over eggs in stores? Are chickens scared of Trump and have they stopped laying eggs?
In Ukraine, 10 eggs cost $1.5.

I know this isn't shouting, politics, blaming, or making biased accusations, but... eggs are not 10 eggs for $10. I bought eggs yesterday and they were under $10 for 18 grade A extra large eggs.

And now everyone, please go back to blaming Biden for the virus, or Trump for not curing it, when the bird flu didn't ask if the chickens were Democrats, Republican or Independents, before it started to spread.

Bird Flu, 1878 in Italy, first description. 1995 an outbreak in China. "This current outbreak, from a strain that emerged among poultry flocks and wild birds in Europe in the fall of 2020" (USA Today) 2021: H5N1 first detected in North America, in poultry and in a great black-backed gull in Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

As I see it, the whole problem is created by free range fowl, allowed to mingle with the wild populations, that have carried the disease, in the wild. Now it is allowed to spread through controlled populations, which mingle with wild disease carrying birds. So much for all the new age food fads people. That's what caused the spread of the deadly virus, and the increased price of eggs. Not politicians.

trabuco · « **Reply #32 on:** February 21, 2025, 11:29 »

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Quote from: trabuco on Today at 06:53
We don't need the USA. A war is impossible.
I will not comment on the Russian propaganda that you constantly write.
I will say this, the Russians have more nuclear weapons than the EU. The cowardly EU countries will never start a nuclear war first. Therefore, I give 100% that the EU countries will surrender all their nuclear weapons to the Russian occupiers.
As for Great Britain, it has not been in the EU for a long time and this country can be considered the same as Canada, separate.
As for some obligations of the USA (the Budapest memorandum), Ukraine and the countries of the axis of evil have already seen how the USA fulfills its obligations.
But, considering that you are under the full influence of Russian propaganda, considering that the residents of the EU are also under it (you are now representing the EU here), you of course think that you are the smartest, most beautiful, invincible, successful and lucky.
But why did you create this topic then?

So you write here that Europe doesn't need the USA. The EU is the strongest military union on the planet! Ukraine's problems are only Ukraine's problems! Russians are not your enemies!
Continue these slogans. Show the level of political literacy of EU residents.

Are you switching your flag from Soviet to Nazi? The only Nazi flags in western countries are from Trump supporters.

If you support Trump, you support Putin and Russia.

1. A nuclear war can't be started.
2. Russian army is a joke, unable to conquer a Third World country.

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stoker2014 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 21, 2025, 12:17 »

Quote from: trabuco on February 21, 2025, 11:29

2. Russian army is a joke, unable to conquer a Third World country.

Let's see how you'll sing when you're offered to go fight the Russian orcs. And now you are, yes, very brave. And you write nothing but nonsense.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 21, 2025, 12:19 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 21, 2025, 11:27

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 20, 2025, 14:44
What happened to eggs in the US? Why do 10 eggs cost more than $10? Why do people fight over eggs in stores? Are chickens scared of Trump and have they stopped laying eggs?
In Ukraine, 10 eggs cost $1.5.

I know this isn't shouting, politics, blaming, or making biased accusations, but... eggs are not 10 eggs for $10. I bought eggs yesterday and they were under $10 for 18 grade A extra large eggs.

And now everyone, please go back to blaming Biden for the virus, or Trump for not curing it, when the bird flu didn't ask if the chickens were Democrats, Republican or Independents, before it started to spread.

Bird Flu, 1878 in Italy, first description. 1995 an outbreak in China. "This current outbreak, from a strain that emerged among poultry flocks and wild birds in Europe in the fall of 2020" (USA Today) 2021: H5N1 first detected in North America, in poultry and in a great black-backed gull in Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.

As I see it, the whole problem is created by free range fowl, allowed to mingle with the wild populations, that have carried the disease, in the wild. Now it is allowed to spread through controlled populations, which mingle with wild disease carrying birds. So much for all the new age food fads people. That's what caused the spread of the deadly virus, and the increased price of eggs. Not politicians.

Why is there a shortage of eggs in stores? There are videos on the Internet where people fight over eggs.
But it's very good that you answered my question, now I know that 10 eggs in the US cost $5.5. By how much have eggs gone up in price in your country?

trabuco · « **Reply #35 on:** February 21, 2025, 12:52 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 21, 2025, 12:17

Quote from: trabuco on February 21, 2025, 11:29
2. Russian army is a joke, unable to conquer a Third World country.
Let's see how you'll sing when you're offered to go fight the Russian orcs. And now you are, yes, very brave. And you write nothing but nonsense.

I'm a Spaniard. Maybe you are afraid because you are not.

I'm 52, if I have to defend my country I"ll do it.

And all russian soldiers on Spain"s soil will die.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 21, 2025, 13:37 »

Quote from: trabuco on February 21, 2025, 12:52

I'm a Spaniard.

This explains a lot why you write nonsense. Spain is the periphery of the EU, and why did you suddenly decide that Spain is a first world country. Dividing people into classes is offensive from the start. Spain is constantly in economic crisis, and as far as I know it is mainly a tourist and agricultural country.
I read about the civil war in Spain, half of the country fought for the communists, and the other half for the fascists. Judging by what you write, the Spanish are still in a mess.
There are a lot of Russians in Spain and a lot of their propaganda.
I was in Spain, I liked it there, the people are very nice, but it is better not to talk to them about politics (they do not understand it).

ShadySue · « **Reply #37 on:** February 21, 2025, 14:35 »

You:

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 21, 2025, 13:37

Spain is the periphery of the EU, and why did you suddenly decide that Spain is a first world country.

Also you:

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 21, 2025, 13:37

Dividing people into classes is offensive from the start.

Wilm · « **Reply #38 on:** February 21, 2025, 14:57 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 21, 2025, 06:17

Quote from: trabuco on February 21, 2025, 05:06
we are fine in the first world

Trump! Crush the parasites!

There are a lot of things you don't understand.

One of them is that Donald Trump is a narcissist. Many of his decisions have neither a political nor a geostrategic basis, but are simply based on the fact that - because of his narcissism - he wants to and will take personal revenge on people who have contradicted him or who do not follow his opinions and orders.

Zelenskyy has now also made this "mistake". He objected to Ukraine's quid pro quo (500 billion dollars) for US support (200 billion dollars) because he - justifiably - considered it to be completely excessive. For Trump, this is an "insult to his majesty - the king", which is why he is dropping Ukraine, calling Zelenskyy a dictator and claiming that he started the war.

So because he doesn't want to give Trump these sums, Zelenskyy is now a parasite for Trump.

In this respect, if I were you, I would be very careful with such statements "Trump. Crush the parasites!"

As always, I assume that you don't understand. But that's nothing new.

What you have understood by now, however, is that things - as has been predicted to you hundreds of times - are going completely differently than you (and your supposed "experts") believed. That's why I no longer see a +100 for Trump, which you have written hundreds of times elsewhere. Maybe the day will come when you understand that not every Democrat is a socialist. Maybe the day will also come when you understand that not every Democrat is a socialist.Or the day when your completely nonsensical and historically outdated black and white thinking stops. I doubt that I will live to see it.

And, what is also very important to me:

"The cowardly EU countries will never start a nuclear war first."

This sentence of yours is so unbelievably stupid that I really - once again - have to conclude that you must be ill. Sorry, but that sentence is really absolutely nonsense!!!

Wilm · « **Reply #39 on:** February 21, 2025, 15:00 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 21, 2025, 13:37

Quote from: trabuco on February 21, 2025, 12:52
I'm a Spaniard.

I was in Spain, ... but it is better not to talk to them about politics (they do not understand it).

Says our political expert.

Andrej.S. · « **Reply #40 on:** February 21, 2025, 15:30 »

I don't find this funny anymore. We've had years of ongoing conflicts and crises since the Corona pandemic. If there's no peace in Ukraine, the final stage of global disruption will begin, and the European Union will show massive signs of disintegration.

I think it's absurd that Europe plans to invest another 700 billion in this war to achieve a 'fair' peace. That's madness. Here in Germany, old highway bridges are collapsing, and the rail infrastructure is over 50 years old. We had a burst water pipe in Berlin that was over 100 years old and flooded half the city.

Sorry, but I don't feel like wanting to pay more taxes for the Ukrainians and their war so that my daughter will grow up in a rundown, poor Germany.
To hell with solidarity. This isn't my war, and I wasn't asked. Ukraine is not a NATO member and shouldn't become one, so that a third world war can't break out.

I'm also very sure that when the war is over, a big scandal surrounding Zelensky will become public, and we'll find out that he's put a lot of the war aid money in his own pocket.
It's no coincidence that he's sanctioned the entire opposition or, for example, transferred Walerij Saluschnyj as a diplomat out of Ukraine. Klitschko constantly criticizes Zelensky for not communicating with other Ukrainian politicians.
Let's be honest: He's just as corrupt as the Russians. Maybe not as big a dictator as Putin, but a small one with ambitions.

trabuco · « **Reply #41 on:** February 21, 2025, 15:58 »

I"m not going to compare, again, an euroean country with the USA. You can search our hospitals or our high speed train km lines. Try not to cry if you do it.

Nazi flags over Europe is Steve Bannom?

trabuco · « **Reply #42 on:** February 21, 2025, 16:02 »

Surrender the USA to Putin is MAGA?

cascoly · « **Reply #43 on:** February 21, 2025, 17:53 »

Quote from: trabuco on February 21, 2025, 06:53

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 21, 2025, 06:41
1. Britain could not fight russia for more than two months, the Deputy Chief of Defence Staff has admitted.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/26/weakened-uk-military-two-months-war-russia/

2. French troops are fleeing Africa because they were driven out by Russian troops.

I wish the EU success without Ukraine!

Remember, change your flag to the Soviet one. Trump wants it.

The United Kingdom has four Vanguard-class submarines armed with nuclear armed Trident missiles. A single one submarine can fully destroy Russia.

France has 4 more.

We don't need the USA. A war is impossible.

But Risk with beers is cool when you are fifteen.

i agree with your analysis except war is not impossible - with 9 current nuclear powers the chances of accidental nuclear war is highest since the 60s. eg if putin uses tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine & it spirals out of control and if the US removes it's 'nuclear umbrella' countries like S Korea, Germany & even Japan may see a need to obtain nuclear weapons.

and trump's disastrous canceling of the Iranian agreement means Iran is much closer to building a bomb - under the agreement, inspections were taking place. now we only know that Iran has been speeding up it's uranium processing capabilities

Closer than ever: It is now 89 seconds to midnight
https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/2025-statement/

stoker2014 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 21, 2025, 18:24 »

Quote from: trabuco on February 21, 2025, 15:58

You can search our hospitals or our high speed train km lines.

+100
I haven't been to hospitals, but Ukrainians are not happy, long waits in line.
But I've ridden Renfe trains, super!

But the best thing in Spain is wine.

Quote from: trabuco on February 21, 2025, 15:58

Nazi flags over Europe is Steve Bannom?

No, this is an excursion into European history for you, you were under the dictator Franco then, and probably don't know much. You started the topic of flags, I continued.

trabuco · « **Reply #45 on:** February 22, 2025, 03:49 »

Best thing in Spain is not wine. Our wine is the best in the world, wich is a different thing. We don't use to drink wine every day or "sangria", wich is crap for tourists and we never drink it, we drink beer.

But:

Our houses are much better than yours, our food is much beter than yours (many of your "food" is forbidden here), our roads are better than yours, our hospitals are better than yours, our cars are better, safer and cleaner than yours, our public transports are better than yours, our cities are cleaner and safer than yours, our voting! is better than yours (results in 2 hours), our fire extinction services are better than yours, our social security and pensions are much better than yours, your third world problems (homeless, fentanyl, crank, etc.) does not exist here-, and, in general, life is much better here. The USA is not even close to Europe in living quality.

We have the best healthcare system in the world f.i. and we are the country with more km of high speed train lines, more than the USA. Something is wrong in your country because you are a continent and this is weird.

So, life here is better, healthier and safer.

Your ignorance, about Spain, is incredible, but not surprising. Our educational system is free, you should move to the first world and study someting almost for free.

--> We din't have just one civil war, read a book. Just in the XIX century we hace four, including Independence war against France, wich was a civil war between illustrated and supporters of old regime.

We are not better than other countries, we are very similar to other european countries and not better than the USA, we are different. We care about the others.

About third world and first world from my own experience.

I have studied, not like you, ten years in college, Politics, Philosophy, Laws. I'm a Ph.D. photography is my passion, not my job. My English is, still, a s., we have this problem in Spain XD. Can't say exactly how much money it was, but I would say about 500-600 euros per year. Maybe 5000 euros per 10 years. Like the USA. Can you study there? Move here.

I used to go to court because several personal problems in the last years Maybe 15-20 times in the last 15 years. The cost was 0. My lawyer is not expensive too, I'm not rich. In fact, in most of cases you don't need a lawyer here (you need when you are charged with a crime). Can you go to court in the USA? Move here.

Some months ago I went to my doctor. Last year I felt sick. I don't like doctors, I NEVER go there.
He found something in my throat. Thought it was a really bad thing. So, I needed surgery.

Cost of doctor 0.

He scheduled surgery in 2 weeks !!!!! after that day. A long long long wait. In fact I did not have time enough to be afraid.

So I needed hospitalization the day before and then a general anesthesia surgery the day after. In a couple of days after I was at home with my prescriptions.

Cost of hospitalization 0.
Cost of precriptions during hospitalization 0.
Cost of surgery (a dozen people team) 0.
Cost of prescriptions after surgerey: about 15 euros I think.
Cost of biopsy 0.
Cost of doctor afeter surgery 0.

Have to wait 3 weeks for results. Nothing wrong there and I'm fine now. · 3 weeks is a longer time, because in my country when you are well things go slower, really ill people have the TOP priority.

Not a long wait I think.

Study.

to the point now:

WHY DO YOU WEAR AN UKRAINIAN FLAG WHEN YOU ARE A TRUMP SUPPOERTER?
YOU SHOULD WEAR A SOVIET FLAG.

trabuco · « **Reply #46 on:** February 22, 2025, 03:58 »

Quote from: cascoly on February 21, 2025, 17:53

Quote from: trabuco on February 21, 2025, 06:53
Quote from: stoker2014 on February 21, 2025, 06:41
1. Britain could not fight russia for more than two months, the Deputy Chief of Defence Staff has admitted.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/26/weakened-uk-military-two-months-war-russia/

2. French troops are fleeing Africa because they were driven out by Russian troops.

I wish the EU success without Ukraine!

Remember, change your flag to the Soviet one. Trump wants it.

The United Kingdom has four Vanguard-class submarines armed with nuclear armed Trident missiles. A single one submarine can fully destroy Russia.

France has 4 more.

We don't need the USA. A war is impossible.

But Risk with beers is cool when you are fifteen.

i agree with your analysis except war is not impossible - with 9 current nuclear powers the chances of accidental nuclear war is highest since the 60s. eg if putin uses tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine & it spirals out of control and if the US removes it's 'nuclear umbrella' countries like S Korea, Germany & even Japan may see a need to obtain nuclear weapons.

and trump's disastrous canceling of the Iranian agreement means Iran is much closer to building a bomb - under the agreement, inspections were taking place. now we only know that Iran has been speeding up it's uranium processing capabilities

Closer than ever: It is now 89 seconds to midnight
https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/2025-statement/

You are right.

Reality is reality, but we must not think it.

trabuco · « **Reply #47 on:** February 22, 2025, 04:06 »

--> I'm not a USA hater.

I love your culture, philosophy, writers, music and politics. All americans I have met in my life were nice people.

Please don't read wrong my posts with the Risk expert.

thx9000 · « **Reply #48 on:** February 22, 2025, 05:00 »

I think there's good in all this. Europe was not going to change on its own. We've been complacent for far too long and have accepted the role of a sidekick. This is the perfect kick in the butt we need to wake up. Europe should lead, not wait to be invited on the table. And btw F both wokeism and fascism, so tired of sick people being the center of attention

stoker2014 · « **Reply #49 on:** February 22, 2025, 05:23 »

Quote from: thx9000 on February 22, 2025, 05:00

This is the perfect kick in the butt we need to wake up.

+100

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