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Lizard · « **Reply #525 on:** June 05, 2023, 06:36 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 05, 2023, 03:02

What does NATO have to do with Kosovo? You will study the question first.
Yugoslavia as a country disintegrated a long time ago. Therefore, the Republic of Kosovo itself decides how and with whom to live.
You probably support the Serbian pro-Russian occupiers?

Time for education...so repeat after me...

Kosovo was never a Yugoslav Republic. Kosovo was a region of autonomy based on majority of Albanian population and essential part of the Republic of Serbia.

I support Serbs so much that I spent years of best times of my life defending my country against them in first lines, while they were lunching thousands of missiles a day with 4. Army force in Europe on a fresh recognized country that didn't even have an army. All we got from NATO and the rest of the company is weapons embargo so that we can not even buy it to defend ourself.

And that's a bit different than what you are doing my dear keyboard warrior.

But justice is justice.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #526 on:** June 05, 2023, 07:55 »

Quote from: Lizard on June 05, 2023, 06:36

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 05, 2023, 03:02

What does NATO have to do with Kosovo? You will study the question first.
Yugoslavia as a country disintegrated a long time ago. Therefore, the Republic of Kosovo itself decides how and with whom to live.
You probably support the Serbian pro-Russian occupiers?

Time for education...so repeat after me...

Kosovo was never a Yugoslav Republic. Kosovo was a region of autonomy based on majority of Albanian population and essential part of the Republic of Serbia.

I support Serbs so much that I spent years of best times of my life defending my country against them in first lines, while they were lunching thousands of missiles a day with 4. Army force in Europe on a fresh recognized country that didn't even have an army. All we got from NATO and the rest of the company is weapons embargo so that we can not even buy it to defend ourself.

And that's a bit different than what you are doing my dear keyboard warrior.

But justice is justice.

1. What country are you from?
2. 101 UN states have recognized Kosovo.
3. As a result of the 1999 war between Serbs and Albanians, the region came under UN control.
4. On February 17, 2008, the parliament of Kosovo declared independence.
5. 92% of Albanians live in Kosovo.
6. In 1974, the autonomous rights of the territory of Kosovo were extended and these rights were equated with other republics of Yugoslavia.

Conclusions: When a country breaks up, in this case Yugoslavia, the emergence of a country like Kosovo is quite logical and democratic. And in vain you support Serbia here.
There is no need to compare with Crimea. It's like comparing a monkey and a human.

7. If you do not support Serbia, then you should be grateful to NATO for helping to end the civil war in Kosovo. As a result of the war, a new state of Kosovo emerged.

Lizard · « **Reply #527 on:** June 05, 2023, 17:20 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 05, 2023, 07:55

1. What country are you from?
2. 101 UN states have recognized Kosovo.
3. As a result of the 1999 war between Serbs and Albanians, the region came under UN control.
4. On February 17, 2008, the parliament of Kosovo declared independence.
5. 92% of Albanians live in Kosovo.
6. In 1974, the autonomous rights of the territory of Kosovo were extended and these rights were equated with other republics of Yugoslavia.

Conclusions: When a country breaks up, in this case Yugoslavia, the emergence of a country like Kosovo is quite logical and democratic. And in vain you support Serbia here.
There is no need to compare with Crimea. It's like comparing a monkey and a human.

7. If you do not support Serbia, then you should be grateful to NATO for helping to end the civil war in Kosovo. As a result of the war, a new state of Kosovo emerged.

Repeat after me: The situation with Kosovo is absolutely the same as the one in Crimea.

In 1939. there were 62.3% of Serbs and 37.6% Albanians. The politics of Yugoslavia of accepting Albanian refugees ended up with such ethnically cleansing that Serbs made less than 1.47 % in 2011.

We can also compare it with Catalonia where 90%+ people that voted chose independence on democratic referendum and police used force to stop them but I haven't seen NATO intervening.

As a Croatian I have absolutely no reason to defend the Serbs who destroyed 1/3 of my country and forced me to fight right after my high school graduation but Im defending the justice here.

As a matter effects Serbs wanted same thing in Croatia to take away regions with majority of Serbian population withing my country and join them with Serbia. The Yugoslav national army took their side and went with full force on fresh Croatian unarmed side destroying everything. NATO didn't want to piss of Russia, traditional Serbian friend, and forced a embargo on Croatia to buy weapons to defend itself. So the only way was to buy it on the black market.

And those are facts

stoker2014 · « **Reply #528 on:** June 06, 2023, 02:21 »

Urgent news.
Russian fascists, terrorists and occupiers blew up the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station in Ukraine. This is ecological catastrophy!

stoker2014 · « **Reply #529 on:** June 06, 2023, 02:29 »

Europe needs to get ready, the Russians may soon blow up the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, and this will already be a disaster for the whole of Europe.
Ukraine urgently needs F16 aircraft to eliminate Russian fascists.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #530 on:** June 06, 2023, 03:52 »

Quote from: Lizard on June 05, 2023, 17:20

Repeat after me: The situation with Kosovo is absolutely the same as the one in Crimea.

You are a Croatian, so you know the history of Croatia. You do not know the history of Crimea.
Where there are Russians there is only lies and propaganda. Crimea was occupied by Russian troops in 2014. In the same year, Russia annexed Crimea. There was no civil war. Russia held a fake referendum, the results of which were printed out in Moscow even before the referendum. This was a violation of the territorial integrity of Ukraine, a violation of all international treaties and a violation of the Constitution of Ukraine. The democratic countries of the world consider Crimea a territory occupied by Russians. Therefore, Kosovo, Croatia and Catalonia are completely different issues. You stubbornly continue to compare man with a monkey. Don't believe Russian propaganda!

Quote from: Lizard on June 05, 2023, 17:20

In 1939. there were 62.3% of Serbs and 37.6% Albanians. The politics of Yugoslavia of accepting Albanian refugees ended up with such ethnically cleansing that Serbs made less than 1.47 % in 2011.

I see other data:
1921: Albanians 66%, Serbs 26%;
1939: Albanians 60%, Serbs 34%;
1971: Albanians 74%, Serbs 21%;
2007: Albanians 92%, Serbs 5%;

Quote from: Lizard on June 05, 2023, 17:20

We can also compare it with Catalonia where 90%+ people that voted chose independence on democratic referendum and police used force to stop them but I haven't seen NATO intervening.

Why is NATO there? There was no civil war there, there were no threats to the EU. Madrid defended its constitution and the integrity of Spain. The separatists were imprisoned. There are a lot of Russian KGB agents working there in Catalonia, they are fueling the protests.

Quote from: Lizard on June 05, 2023, 17:20

As a Croatian I have absolutely no reason to defend the Serbs who destroyed 1/3 of my country and forced me to fight right after my high school graduation but Im defending the justice here.

As a matter effects Serbs wanted same thing in Croatia to take away regions with majority of Serbian population withing my country and join them with Serbia. The Yugoslav national army took their side and went with full force on fresh Croatian unarmed side destroying everything. NATO didn't want to piss of Russia, traditional Serbian friend, and forced a embargo on Croatia to buy weapons to defend itself. So the only way was to buy it on the black market.

And those are facts

Here you know what to write, and that's good. The problems of Croatia can be discussed further. Let me just say that NATO is included only when the issue is not resolved by political means, by negotiation. In the case of Kosovo, the intervention was justified.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #531 on:** June 06, 2023, 05:59 »

The destruction of the hydroelectric power station is equated to the use of weapons of mass destruction. The Russians continue to kill the Ukrainian people, this is genocide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jM3sRhUWvc

According to InformNapalm's OSINT researchers, the ecological and economic consequences of the destruction of the Kakhovskaya HPS for Ukraine can be compared to the consequences of the use of tactical nuclear weapons of 5-10 kilotons.
The factors of such a destruction are actually identical to a nuclear explosion except for radiation contamination:

1. Evacuation of the population, destruction of enterprises and objects with harmful and poisonous substances (chlorine, ammonia, petroleum products, etc.).

2. Destruction of water supply, sewage, electricity facilities, collapse of food and medical logistics.

3. Pollution of part of the Black Sea water area and other consequences.

According to the Geneva Convention (Article 56 of Additional Protocol I of 1977), actions to destroy dams are a war crime and can be equated to the use of weapons of mass destruction.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #532 on:** June 06, 2023, 09:37 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 06, 2023, 03:52

I see other data:
1921: Albanians 66%, Serbs 26%;
1939: Albanians 60%, Serbs 34%;
1971: Albanians 74%, Serbs 21%;
2007: Albanians 92%, Serbs 5%;

"All those are facts!"

Serbian nationalists are conveniently forgetting that older census data from the Ottoman empire is unreliable and didn't account for "nationalities", but for religion affiliations.
Even so, Albanian muslims were still a majority in the Kosovo Vilayet (Vilayet = adminstrative division of the Ottoman empire)

Moreover serbian nationalists are conveniently forgetting that the retaking of Kosovo by Serbia in 1912 resulted in a suppression of the local muslim Albanian population and ethnic cleansing.

In this context it's also worth mentioning that Serbia has even occupied Albania, claiming that if Austria-Hungary can occupy Bosnia and Italy can occupy Libya, then Serbia is entitled to occupy Albania. #whataboutism

While playing the victim role, serbian nationalists are also conveniently forgetting this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Albanians_in_the_Balkan_Wars

stoker2014 · « **Reply #533 on:** June 06, 2023, 11:07 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on June 06, 2023, 09:37

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 06, 2023, 03:52
I see other data:
1921: Albanians 66%, Serbs 26%;
1939: Albanians 60%, Serbs 34%;
1971: Albanians 74%, Serbs 21%;
2007: Albanians 92%, Serbs 5%;

"All those are facts!"

Serbian nationalists are conveniently forgetting that older census data from the Ottoman empire is unreliable and didn't account for "nationalities", but for religion affiliations.
Even so, Albanian muslims were still a majority in the Kosovo Vilayet (Vilayet = adminstrative division of the Ottoman empire)

Moreover serbian nationalists are conveniently forgetting that the retaking of Kosovo by Serbia in 1912 resulted in a suppression of the local muslim Albanian population and ethnic cleansing.

In this context it's also worth mentioning that Serbia has even occupied Albania, claiming that if Austria-Hungary can occupy Bosnia and Italy can occupy Libya, then Serbia is entitled to occupy Albania. #whataboutism

While playing the victim role, serbian nationalists are also conveniently forgetting this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Albanians_in_the_Balkan_Wars

That is why NATO intervened and helped the Albanians.
And to say here that Crimea and Kosovo are one and the same, it smells like propaganda.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #534 on:** June 06, 2023, 12:15 »

Australia, the United States of America and Ukraine are negotiating the possible supply of American F/A-18 Hornet fighters to Kyiv. This was reported by The Australian Financial Review on June 6, citing its own sources.

The publication notes that it is about 41 aircraft of the Royal Australian Air Force, which were previously planned to simply be written off.

As the journalists note, in this way, the request of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyi regarding combat aviation may be partially fulfilled.

Wilm · « **Reply #535 on:** June 06, 2023, 16:00 »

Quote from: Lizard on June 05, 2023, 17:20

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 05, 2023, 07:55

1. What country are you from?
2. 101 UN states have recognized Kosovo.
3. As a result of the 1999 war between Serbs and Albanians, the region came under UN control.
4. On February 17, 2008, the parliament of Kosovo declared independence.
5. 92% of Albanians live in Kosovo.
6. In 1974, the autonomous rights of the territory of Kosovo were extended and these rights were equated with other republics of Yugoslavia.

Conclusions: When a country breaks up, in this case Yugoslavia, the emergence of a country like Kosovo is quite logical and democratic. And in vain you support Serbia here.
There is no need to compare with Crimea. It's like comparing a monkey and a human.

7. If you do not support Serbia, then you should be grateful to NATO for helping to end the civil war in Kosovo. As a result of the war, a new state of Kosovo emerged.
We can also compare it with Catalonia where 90%+ people that voted chose independence on democratic referendum and police used force to stop them but I haven't seen NATO intervening.

Lizard,

this comparison is useless for the argumentation in my view.

If a regional government creates a referendum and only allows the people of that region to vote, this is not a correct democratic process, because the regional government was not authorised by the Spanish constitution to hold a referendum.

If tomorrow the local politicians in Istria hold a referendum to separate Istria from Croatia, the Croatian government would rightly oppose it. Italy would resist if Lombardy did the same. And in these fictitious cases, too, I see no reason why NATO should interfere there.

In contrast to Catalonia, which sought autonomy, the Crimea, the Donbass or Luhansk are not about autonomy, but about becoming part of the Russian empire - that is a completely different background!

stoker2014 · « **Reply #536 on:** June 07, 2023, 06:36 »

Kherson, Ukraine.
Genocide and ecocide of Ukraine committed by Russian occupiers. Cities and villages of Ukraine are completely in the water and under water. All fish in the Dnieper are dying. A lot of chemicals are washed off the fields and float into the Black Sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0azwb7kCIw

The Russians are constantly bombarding the city of Kherson with artillery. Ukraine cannot help many people. In the occupied territory of Ukraine, Russian occupiers do not provide assistance to people in the flooded area. No telephone connection, no light. The United Nations is inactive.

Volunteers save dogs, but not everyone can be saved. The problem is that the Russians either do not let people out of the flooded houses or fire at the houses with artillery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guAloobprRg

stoker2014 · « **Reply #537 on:** June 08, 2023, 14:17 »

Appeal of the President of Ukraine to people all over the world in connection with the terrorist act by the fascist Russia at the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3095662760735023&ref=sharing

stoker2014 · « **Reply #538 on:** June 09, 2023, 05:31 »

I do not like how the media in other countries hush up the terrorist act of Russia at the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station and its consequences. The information is presented in a very concise form, much is not said and it is not said that the fault lies with Russia. Also, I do not see enough reaction from the democratic countries. For example, if the Russians blow up a hydroelectric power station in Germany or Italy and flood a lot of territory, the reaction will be completely different. No new sanctions are being introduced against Russia, tamahawks do not fly at Russian military facilities, Ukraine is not given missiles with a range of 1000 km or more.
The explosion of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station is the first stage before the explosion of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant. The Russians look at the reaction of the world, and see, nothing threatening them. If anyone does not know, the Russians have long since fully mined the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant and storage facilities for nuclear waste. The Russians want to blow up the nuclear power plant. After that, they will say that we did not blow up anything, this is all allegedly because the water level has dropped in the Kakhovka storage reservoir. Also, the Russians will say that the Ukrainians blew up the nuclear power plant. And the whole world will chew snot, shrug and express concern. Nobody wants to think about where the wind will carry the radioactive dust. Nobody is doing anything.
Democratic countries are very much like ostriches that have buried their heads in the sand.

Just_to_inform_people2 · « **Reply #539 on:** June 09, 2023, 12:01 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 09, 2023, 05:31

I do not like how the media in other countries hush up the terrorist act of Russia at the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station and its consequences. The information is presented in a very concise form, much is not said and it is not said that the fault lies with Russia. Also, I do not see enough reaction from the democratic countries. For example, if the Russians blow up a hydroelectric power station in Germany or Italy and flood a lot of territory, the reaction will be completely different. No new sanctions are being introduced against Russia, tamahawks do not fly at Russian military facilities, Ukraine is not given missiles with a range of 1000 km or more.
The explosion of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station is the first stage before the explosion of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant. The Russians look at the reaction of the world, and see, nothing threatening them. If anyone does not know, the Russians have long since fully mined the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant and storage facilities for nuclear waste. The Russians want to blow up the nuclear power plant. After that, they will say that we did not blow up anything, this is all allegedly because the water level has dropped in the Kakhovka storage reservoir. Also, the Russians will say that the Ukrainians blew up the nuclear power plant. And the whole world will chew snot, shrug and express concern. Nobody wants to think about where the wind will carry the radioactive dust. Nobody is doing anything.
Democratic countries are very much like ostriches that have buried their heads in the sand.

Having fun here all by yourself?

Can you show me the proof that Russia sabotaged the dam?

I remember that the destruction of Nord Stream pipelines was also immediately blamed on Russia and people spoke of the biggest natural disaster ever and the guilty party will pay. Now it seems that it was Ukraine doing it. Not 100% proof, so far, but multiple American newspapers tend to believe it and different European investigations tend to confirm it.

If, by any chance, it was Ukraine blowing up the dam, are they then also terrorists or have done "Genocide and ecocide" as you say?

I can see, from a tactical point of view, much more advantage for Ukraine to have done it then Russia actually.

The Krim is dependent on it's water supply, most of the area which is flooded is under Russia's control. The nuclear plant is dependent on the water as well which is also under Russians control.

And I know you are going to say now that I am repeating russian propoganda. But seriously, in which way is there any advantage for Russia to have done this? Like there was also no advantage to blow up the Nord Stream pipelines. I really can't see it. And certainly it was not to stop a so called breach by the Ukranians which everybody knows would not have taken place there.

So please, show me proof and motive and maybe I will be convinced.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #540 on:** June 09, 2023, 13:46 »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M74HD_hI45A

Bakhmut, Ukraine. The Armed Forces of Ukraine liquidate the Russian occupiers. 20 occupiers were liquidated, and 3 were taken prisoner. This is a documentary with English subtitles. If someone does not have a broadcast, click 2 times on the gray screen. Russian trolls will put a low rating on this film.
This is how Ukraine defends democratic Europe from Russian fascism.

Annie2022 · « **Reply #541 on:** June 09, 2023, 14:44 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on May 21, 2023, 04:25

What are Trump prospects in next year's elections? Why is he not removed from the elections, because there are many investigations against him? One Capitol attack is worth something.

Well, on a historic note: he is now the first former president to be indicted on a federal charge for violations against the Espionage Act.

Annie2022 · « **Reply #542 on:** June 09, 2023, 14:46 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 06, 2023, 12:15

Australia, the United States of America and Ukraine are negotiating the possible supply of American F/A-18 Hornet fighters to Kyiv. This was reported by The Australian Financial Review on June 6, citing its own sources.

The publication notes that it is about 41 aircraft of the Royal Australian Air Force, which were previously planned to simply be written off.

As the journalists note, in this way, the request of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyi regarding combat aviation may be partially fulfilled.

Thanks for informing us. I didn't know about this until I read it here. It wasn't on CNN - or maybe I missed it. But yes, 41 hornet fighter jets.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #543 on:** June 09, 2023, 15:45 »

Quote from: Annie on June 09, 2023, 14:44

Quote from: stoker2014 on May 21, 2023, 04:25
What are Trump prospects in next year's elections? Why is he not removed from the elections, because there are many investigations against him? One Capitol attack is worth something.

Well, on a historic note: he is now the first former president to be indicted on a federal charge for violations against the Espionage Act.

There is also a threat to democracy. This is DeSantis. He's a Trump fan, announced his candidacy in future elections, and apparently has a good attitude towards Russia. It seems he said that he was against the supply of weapons to Ukraine.
He is young, popular, probably promising, but he seems to be connected with the Russians or they have influence on him.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #544 on:** June 09, 2023, 15:52 »

In good news, Michael Pence appears to be running for the next election. But it seems he has no support in the US, which is a pity.

Annie2022 · « **Reply #545 on:** June 10, 2023, 14:52 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 09, 2023, 15:45

Quote from: Annie on June 09, 2023, 14:44
Quote from: stoker2014 on May 21, 2023, 04:25
What are Trump prospects in next year's elections? Why is he not removed from the elections, because there are many investigations against him? One Capitol attack is worth something.

Well, on a historic note: he is now the first former president to be indicted on a federal charge for violations against the Espionage Act.
There is also a threat to democracy.

Yes.

His megalomania is also a threat to the national security of people all around the world, to mine and to everyone who lives in the USA, Britain, New Zealand, and Canada.

Quote

Five Eyes documents spilled on the floor and then were photographed. The documents that spilled onto the floor included the marking “FVEY.”

The Five Eyes are the United States and its closest allies — the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. They share some of the most sensitive information with each other.

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2023/06/politics/annotated-trump-indictment-dg/

stoker2014 · « **Reply #546 on:** June 11, 2023, 04:18 »

Quote from: Annie on June 10, 2023, 14:52

Yes.
His megalomania is also a threat to the national security of people all around the world, to mine and to everyone who lives in the USA, Britain, New Zealand, and Canada.

He probably wants to be like Kennedy. I think that the end of the Vietnam War was the defeat of the United States in the war against communism in Southeast Asia. With subsequent consequences for democracy. Even now, the US is afraid to join the battle, and immediately there are those who remember Vietnam. But the United States could well have won in Vietnam (if not for people like Lennon). DeSantis will definitely stop helping Ukraine if he becomes president. And this will be a threat to many EU countries.

Quote from: Annie on June 10, 2023, 14:52

Quote
Five Eyes documents spilled on the floor and then were photographed. The documents that spilled onto the floor included the marking “FVEY.”
The Five Eyes are the United States and its closest allies — the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. They share some of the most sensitive information with each other.
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2023/06/politics/annotated-trump-indictment-dg/

A good scenario for the series Homeland. I read it, but they don’t write about the content of secret documents. In any case, this is a failure of the CIA and a blow to the US reputation as a reliable partner. Trump has ties to the Russians, and is likely passing classified information to them. I heard the story that Trump demanded that the CIA give him the name of a CIA agent in the Kremlin. The CIA was forced to immediately evacuate this man and his entire family. And only after that Trump received this information. The loss of an agent in the Kremlin is a very strong blow to the work of the CIA. As a result, we see how the Russians confidently and brazenly commit murders and terrorist acts. The CIA did not seem to know at all when the Russians would blow up the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, as a result it was not possible to prevent this act of terrorism and a lot of people and animals are now dying in Ukraine.
At the expense of boxes with documents, where is the CIA looking at all, etc., where is Biden looking? I think either Trump himself could transfer information to Russian KGB agents or the Russians themselves could work with these boxes. Maybe there is a list of visitors to this club (of course it sounds naive).
By the way, Biden also kept boxes of documents at home, why did he do it.
In any case, for the first time in the history of the United States, a man like Trump became the president of the United States and is trying to become president again. This is a huge gift for Russia and all world terrorism.
The same Iran is actively supplying weapons to Russia, perhaps because the Russians transferred to Iran the contents of secret documents from Trump's boxes.
The media recently wrote that a CIA agent was hanged (executed) in Iran. Iran learned about this intelligence agent only because the Russians transmitted information about him. How did the Russians find out about the intelligence officer? It is very possible that thanks to the boxes found with Trump. What if those boxes contained a list of CIA agents in other countries? This is a huge defeat for democracy.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #547 on:** June 11, 2023, 06:44 »

I watch Berlin Station (TV series), season 3. Not bad show who the Russians are. The only remark, in my opinion, the Russians are not as cool as they are shown, and the Crimea is not a brilliant special operation, but just the unwillingness of democratic countries to send Russia to where it belongs, to the dustbin of history. There was no genius in the occupation of Crimea, there was only rudeness, arrogance and terrorism. Well, zero reaction from the US and NATO.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #548 on:** June 11, 2023, 10:11 »

"The orders to shell their own troops were give by a commander with the call sign "Gyurza," they said.

"Our boys were in that position... We hadn't retreated yet when Gyurza ordered to shell this area, this square of land. They told him that our soldiers hadn't left the positions. Women will give birth to new ones, he replied. He aired it by radio so as the entire battalion could hear him. Well, the remains of the battalion..." the Russian soldier said."

stoker2014 · « **Reply #549 on:** June 11, 2023, 11:30 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on June 11, 2023, 10:11

Women will give birth to new ones[/i]

Oh yes, this is the basic philosophy of the Russians. So said their "hero" Zhukov. According to this principle, the Russians fought during the Second World War, they were given either shovels in their hands or 1 rifle for two soldiers and sent in crowds to artillery, machine-gun bunkers or under tanks. Russians are proud of their army, its methods, drink vodka on May 9th and run with Russian flags all over the world. They are wild medieval people. Russians are very similar to the zombies from the movie apocalypse.
I read stories about German soldiers during the Second World War who stood in machine gun positions. So, the Russians fled to the machine-gun bunker in droves, and even without weapons. Next to the German soldier was a box of vodka, the German drank a lot of vodka, his psyche could not stand it. The task of the Russians was to fill up the enemy’s firing point with their bodies in the hope that the Germans would run out of ammunition. Such savagery cannot even be imagined. When asked why the Russians did this, the answer was that they were simply given the task of occupying a certain territory by the exact calendar date. Therefore, they did not prepare for the offensive.

Women will give birth to new ones
By the same principle, the Russians are fighting in Ukraine. For 10 months, the Russians suffered losses in quantity of 100,000 soldiers while trying to occupy the Ukrainian city of Bakhmut (in the end, they could not occupy it completely). Today, the Armed Forces of Ukraine successfully encircle this city and continue to liquidate Russians there.

p.s.
Reply #403.
There I wrote in more detail about the Russians on May 9th.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/off-topic/this-should-settle-some-different-opinions/msg586831/#msg586831

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