"Former President Donald Trump was charged by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg with 34 felony counts for the falsification of business records "
One of those might be, who's going to be the Republican candidate in 2024? ;D
ps I practice equal opportunity, calling out politicians and hypocrites who follow party lines instead of minds.
How's Biden doing, within his own party?
Democrats were asked if they wanted another four years of Biden. 61% said they would prefer a new president; 38% said they'd welcome back Biden.
Kind of getting the feeling that no one likes anything anymore? Except being divided and hating the other side.
What actually surprised me was the fact that you can become president in the U.S. despite having a criminal record.
Admittedly, I would have to study the German constitution thoroughly to be sure that this would not be possible here. I dare say it would not be possible here.
What actually surprised me was the fact that you can become president in the U.S. despite having a criminal record.
Admittedly, I would have to study the German constitution thoroughly to be sure that this would not be possible here. I dare say it would not be possible here.
What actually surprised me was the fact that you can become president in the U.S. despite having a criminal record.
Admittedly, I would have to study the German constitution thoroughly to be sure that this would not be possible here. I dare say it would not be possible here.
I do remember a certain Adolf that was in prison and then became chancellor later. But maybe they changed the constitution afterwards.
What actually surprised me was the fact that you can become president in the U.S. despite having a criminal record.
Admittedly, I would have to study the German constitution thoroughly to be sure that this would not be possible here. I dare say it would not be possible here.
They write that they want to give Trump 136 years in prison.
What actually surprised me was the fact that you can become president in the U.S. despite having a criminal record.
Admittedly, I would have to study the German constitution thoroughly to be sure that this would not be possible here. I dare say it would not be possible here.
I do remember a certain Adolf that was in prison and then became chancellor later. But maybe they changed the constitution afterwards.
Yes, and until someone woke me up (can I use that term?) Hitler began Mein Kampf while imprisoned following his failed coup in Munich in November 1923 and a trial in February 1924 for high treason, in which he received a sentence of five years. While I'm no fan of all the Hitler history, he was appointed, in 1933, not elected. The point is, until I was well out of college, I was of the mistaken belief that he was just a politician who let power go to his head and got some distorted views. WRONG: he was always a bigot and racist.
As for the other part about left or right, and all the polarized viewpoints, yes,, someone would have to include all of that to be fair. I happened to not be of either side and don't follow a party line and don't vote according to pressure from the Union or associations or any groups that might have their own stake in the politics. I happen to look at records for individuals, when I can.
This will anger either the left or right and of course, the far and fringe of either of those. Because they want loyal, mindless followers, not open minded free thinkers. My lefty friends call me a right winger and my right wing friends think I'm too left.
One far right idiot started screaming at me "You're A Democrat" He's brainless, (former friend now) and the typical person who learned all his debate skills from talk radio and Fox news. My far left friend posts Trump hate messages daily on FB. But we're still friends because he's otherwise an intelligent person. Oh yes, he listens to NPR all day long, getting his Socialist propaganda and all about how to save the planet programming.
I'm an organic gardener, no chemicals on my yard either. I feed birds and have flowers for "pollinators", including culturing milk weed for the Monarch butterflies. I don't hunt, I and not a gun collector, but I support the right of free citizens, who are verified and stable, to own firearms. I believe that a woman has a right to choose what she does with her own body, and politicians should be legislating that free choice. I'm a fiscal conservative and don't think Socialism, tax and spend or Big Brother is the answer to how a free society should function.
Anyway... you're right. Here's what's wrong with the US choices for President. There's no place to vote None of the Above find us someone suitable for the position. ;D
Lennon (the Beatles version) did not say we should elect a businessman, that's a fake quote. What he did say was: "...that he was sick of "being *removed coarse language* around by men in suits sitting on their fat arses in the City."
What actually surprised me was the fact that you can become president in the U.S. despite having a criminal record.
Admittedly, I would have to study the German constitution thoroughly to be sure that this would not be possible here. I dare say it would not be possible here.
I do remember a certain Adolf that was in prison and then became chancellor later. But maybe they changed the constitution afterwards.
in the US you can still run for president when convicted & in prison (altho people who have served their terms are denied the vote in many states).Eugen Debs did so in 1920, - instead we got Warren Harding (of teapot Dome fame) who ranked 40 out of 43 as of 2017 https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2017/?page=overall (https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2017/?page=overall)What actually surprised me was the fact that you can become president in the U.S. despite having a criminal record.
Admittedly, I would have to study the German constitution thoroughly to be sure that this would not be possible here. I dare say it would not be possible here.
I think most places you are presumed innocent until elected.
But okay, at least it seems to be possible to continue a political career even in Germany if you had a criminal record. Excerpt from the German Criminal Code:
§ 45
Loss of the ability to hold office, eligibility and the right to vote
(1) Any person convicted of a crime and sentenced to a term of imprisonment of at least one year shall lose the capacity to hold public office and to obtain rights from public elections for a period of five years.
How that would play out with the Chancellor now, I don't know. But as a legal layman, I would say that this is also possible here. Unless, as Zero Talent also quotes, that a court prevents that.
Apparently not much has changed. With Hitler, there were also more than 5 years between the imprisonment and the election as chancellor.
"Former President Donald Trump was charged by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg with 34 felony counts for the falsification of business records "
One of those might be, who's going to be the Republican candidate in 2024? ;D
ps I practice equal opportunity, calling out politicians and hypocrites who follow party lines instead of minds.
How's Biden doing, within his own party?
Democrats were asked if they wanted another four years of Biden. 61% said they would prefer a new president; 38% said they'd welcome back Biden.
Kind of getting the feeling that no one likes anything anymore? Except being divided and hating the other side.
What actually surprised me was the fact that you can become president in the U.S. despite having a criminal record.
Admittedly, I would have to study the German constitution thoroughly to be sure that this would not be possible here. I dare say it would not be possible here.
...While I'm no fan of all the Hitler history, he was appointed, in 1933, not elected.
"Former President Donald Trump was charged by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg with 34 felony counts for the falsification of business records "
One of those might be, who's going to be the Republican candidate in 2024? ;D
ps I practice equal opportunity, calling out politicians and hypocrites who follow party lines instead of minds.
How's Biden doing, within his own party?
Democrats were asked if they wanted another four years of Biden. 61% said they would prefer a new president; 38% said they'd welcome back Biden.
Kind of getting the feeling that no one likes anything anymore? Except being divided and hating the other side.
You can do better Pete :)
Such as:
Everyone that likes Trump is:
* a right fascist extremist red neck
* has an IQ of 60 or lower
* a racist at the core of the heart
* male chauvinist pig
* denies climate change
* only protect rich people and don't care about poor people
* is an egoist that wants to place borders just to protect their own way of living
Everyone that likes Biden is:
* an ignorant, naive and arrogant communist prick
* has an IQ of 60 or lower
* can't distinct cultural diffences amongst groups of people
* doesn't understand there are differences between men and women or other sexes
* climate hoaxer saying it's all caused by man kind doing
* wants to take all money from the rich and divide all amongst the poor
* wants to invite the whole world so everybody is poor equally
Or something like that :)
It would be interesting to read those who support Trump, why, and how it can be supported at all.
...
the Reichstag fire which was blamed on a communist but later proved to be a nazi false flag operation...
...While I'm no fan of all the Hitler history, he was appointed, in 1933, not elected.
Actually, while you & I disagree on many political topics, the only way I see to resolve them is over several evenings with bottles of Lagavullin (or local IPA if on a budget)
You left out the 2 main issues: guns vs abortion.
If (wonder of wonders!) these two could ever be resolved, less people would cling so vehemently to their respective party, becoming more moderate and discerning, leaving the hatred and division that Pete mentioned above, to the minority extremists and hard left/right. Just a thought?
USA needs more independent (thinkers) voters, and to stop taking sides like they were at a football match. imho
It would be interesting to read those who support Trump, why, and how it can be supported at all.
How can they not support Trump, he wants to make America great again. The country is divided close to 50-50, how can one side be claiming to be smarter, better or more popular than the other? You should ask why those others who are antiamerican support socialism or the overthrow of their government.
...While I'm no fan of all the Hitler history, he was appointed, in 1933, not elected.
Actually, while you & I disagree on many political topics, the only way I see to resolve them is over several evenings with bottles of Lagavullin (or local IPA if on a budget)
Probably not as much or as many as you might think. People on the left say I'm too far right and people on the right say I'm too far left. It's a matter of viewing point and perspective. 8) Lagavullin is just right and fits my tastes. Ardbeg, Talisker or Highland Park.
It would be interesting to read those who support Trump, why, and how it can be supported at all.
How can they not support Trump, he wants to make America great again. The country is divided close to 50-50, how can one side be claiming to be smarter, better or more popular than the other? You should ask why those others who are antiamerican support socialism or the overthrow of their government.
Putin wants to make Russia great again. Erdogan wants to make Turkey great again. Farage and Johnson wanted to make the United Kingdom great again. Xi wants to make China great again. Matarella wants to make Italy great again (by banning the use of English words with heavy fines, for example). The Taliban want to make Afghanistan great again by, for example, denying women access to education (as it used to be). Kim Jong Un wants to make North Korea great again.
And history has actually warned us. As a German, I fervently hope and pray that I will not have to experience the times when someone should get the idea to make Germany great again! I hope people understand what I mean.
It would be interesting to read those who support Trump, why, and how it can be supported at all.
How can they not support Trump, he wants to make America great again. The country is divided close to 50-50, how can one side be claiming to be smarter, better or more popular than the other? You should ask why those others who are antiamerican support socialism or the overthrow of their government.
It would be interesting to read those who support Trump, why, and how it can be supported at all.
How can they not support Trump, he wants to make America great again. The country is divided close to 50-50, how can one side be claiming to be smarter, better or more popular than the other? You should ask why those others who are antiamerican support socialism or the overthrow of their government.
And history has actually warned us. As a German, I fervently hope and pray that I will not have to experience the times when someone should get the idea to make Germany great again! I hope people understand what I mean.unfortunately I understand your message as if you equal a desire of the people to have their country independent and strong to Hitler time nazism
And history has actually warned us. As a German, I fervently hope and pray that I will not have to experience the times when someone should get the idea to make Germany great again! I hope people understand what I mean.unfortunately I understand your message as if you equal a desire of the people to have their country independent and strong to Hitler time nazism
The playbook goes like this: labeling, taking sides, de-humanizing the other side, attack/defense, hatred, violence. Divide and conquer.
...While I'm no fan of all the Hitler history, he was appointed, in 1933, not elected.
Actually, while you & I disagree on many political topics, the only way I see to resolve them is over several evenings with bottles of Lagavullin (or local IPA if on a budget)
Probably not as much or as many as you might think. People on the left say I'm too far right and people on the right say I'm too far left. It's a matter of viewing point and perspective. 8) Lagavullin is just right and fits my tastes. Ardbeg, Talisker or Highland Park.
Unfortunately, my stomach does not tolerate Lagavulin. I prefer an Oban, for example.
It would be interesting to read those who support Trump, why, and how it can be supported at all.
How can they not support Trump, he wants to make America great again. The country is divided close to 50-50, how can one side be claiming to be smarter, better or more popular than the other? You should ask why those others who are antiamerican support socialism or the overthrow of their government.
Who ever said you didn't have a sense of humour?! Good one! :D
The playbook goes like this: labeling, taking sides, de-humanizing the other side, attack/defense, hatred, violence. Divide and conquer.
Good point, Annie.
Some of the most notorious cases of labeling and dehumanizing were:
- Before the Rwandan genocide, Tutsis were labeled “cockroaches" by the Hutus, in other words, just vermin that needed to be eradicated.
- Before the Armenian deportation and genocide, Turks called the Armenians, “dangerous microbes.”
- During the the Holocaust, Germans described Jews as “Untermenschen,” or subhumans. Roma people were "Gypsy mongrels" and together with the Jews were considered "enemies of the racial state"
It's worth remembering that anti-communist dissidents were labeled "enemies of the people", in the former communist countries. That's from the same playbook as labeling "anti-american" a majority of US citizens who reject and rejected Trump twice, in democratic elections (note that the american press was also labeled "enemy of the people", by Trump himself)
The playbook goes like this: labeling, taking sides, de-humanizing the other side, attack/defense, hatred, violence. Divide and conquer.
Good point, Annie.
Some of the most notorious cases of labeling and dehumanizing were:
- Before the Rwandan genocide, Tutsis were labeled “cockroaches" by the Hutus, in other words, just vermin that needed to be eradicated.
- Before the Armenian deportation and genocide, Turks called the Armenians, “dangerous microbes.”
- During the the Holocaust, Germans described Jews as “Untermenschen,” or subhumans. Roma people were "Gypsy mongrels" and together with the Jews were considered "enemies of the racial state"
It's worth remembering that anti-communist dissidents were labeled "enemies of the people", in the former communist countries. That's from the same playbook as labeling "anti-american" a majority of US citizens who reject and rejected Trump twice, in democratic elections (note that the american press was also labeled "enemy of the people", by Trump himself)
Don't want to choose sides here but for pure balance I will remind you that Hillary Clinton called Trump voters xenophobic and misogynistic and most of all a "Basket of deplorables". Left polticians have a habit of calling anyone, that don't agree with them, a threat to democracy. You can call out all things of the right you dislike but remember that the left uses actually the same words and phrases as they do.
No difference. It's, once again, political retoric.
It's just that when the other one says it, you find it's horrible and it's awful but if your side says it it's a laugh and the truth, right? And that goes for both sides.
What you think is right and good for you doesn't mean it's the truth, is good for another or automatically respects another persons wishes.
The playbook goes like this: labeling, taking sides, de-humanizing the other side, attack/defense, hatred, violence. Divide and conquer.
Good point, Annie.
Some of the most notorious cases of labeling and dehumanizing were:
- Before the Rwandan genocide, Tutsis were labeled “cockroaches" by the Hutus, in other words, just vermin that needed to be eradicated.
- Before the Armenian deportation and genocide, Turks called the Armenians, “dangerous microbes.”
- During the the Holocaust, Germans described Jews as “Untermenschen,” or subhumans. Roma people were "Gypsy mongrels" and together with the Jews were considered "enemies of the racial state"
It's worth remembering that anti-communist dissidents were labeled "enemies of the people", in the former communist countries. That's from the same playbook as labeling "anti-american" a majority of US citizens who reject and rejected Trump twice, in democratic elections (note that the american press was also labeled "enemy of the people", by Trump himself)
The playbook goes like this: labeling, taking sides, de-humanizing the other side, attack/defense, hatred, violence. Divide and conquer.
Good point, Annie.
Some of the most notorious cases of labeling and dehumanizing were:
- Before the Rwandan genocide, Tutsis were labeled “cockroaches" by the Hutus, in other words, just vermin that needed to be eradicated.
- Before the Armenian deportation and genocide, Turks called the Armenians, “dangerous microbes.”
- During the the Holocaust, Germans described Jews as “Untermenschen,” or subhumans. Roma people were "Gypsy mongrels" and together with the Jews were considered "enemies of the racial state"
It's worth remembering that anti-communist dissidents were labeled "enemies of the people", in the former communist countries. That's from the same playbook as labeling "anti-american" a majority of US citizens who reject and rejected Trump twice, in democratic elections (note that the american press was also labeled "enemy of the people", by Trump himself)
Yes, I think the Tutsis, and Jews in the 1930s, issues are perfect examples of this. By calling them cockroaches and dehumanizing them, they allow people to eventually commit extremely violent crimes against them because they are not 'real people'. Its a conditioning process.
I think xenophobia is a real issue and exists whenever there is a lot of underlining fears and scarcity (re. Wilm's story of 1930s Germany above) and should be addressed. And its still behind a lot of things today. Brexit (which is now destroying Britain's economy), Orban used it to win election in Hungary (a Hungarian friend was describing how bad Hungary is now under his rule). Trump during his first presidential campaign speeches: Mexican immigrants are rapists.
A friend showed me a QAnon 'recruitment' video a while ago - not to recruit me but to show how bad it was. It was about the time I first watched that "Why We Hate" documentary I mentioned above, and I could immediately see the pattern. The first five minutes of this video was really dark and menacing, preying on people's fears. The first few minutes! There it was!
Of course, if you don't have those fears, then you don't fall victim to it. But there is obviously a large part of society that do, and these issues need to be addressed - not amplifying the fears themselves and using them for political advantage and control.
Last night I started watching "Why We Hate" again and its very insightful. For any Aussies reading this, I finally found it on SBS On-Demand, but it expires in a couple of days' time. There's 6 episodes so you will need time for a marathon. Not sure where else its showing. It was first aired on the Discovery channel, I believe.
There is nothing wrong with being either a liberal or a conservative, but I just want people to become aware of manipulative politicians and the tell-tale signs. Vote for leaders that have a strong sense of morality. They may not be as 'charismatic' as these other ones - but they will have your real needs close to their heart.
Anyway, I could go on and on about this, but I won't take up any more of people's time.
It would be interesting to read those who support Trump, why, and how it can be supported at all.
How can they not support Trump, he wants to make America great again. The country is divided close to 50-50, how can one side be claiming to be smarter, better or more popular than the other? You should ask why those others who are antiamerican support socialism or the overthrow of their government.
Putin wants to make Russia great again. Erdogan wants to make Turkey great again. Farage and Johnson wanted to make the United Kingdom great again. Xi wants to make China great again. Meloni wants to make Italy great again (by banning the use of English words with heavy fines, for example). The Taliban want to make Afghanistan great again by, for example, denying women access to education (as it used to be). Kim Jong Un wants to make North Korea great again.
And history has actually warned us. As a German, I fervently hope and pray that I will not have to experience the times when someone should get the idea to make Germany great again! I hope people understand what I mean.
The playbook goes like this: labeling, taking sides, de-humanizing the other side, attack/defense, hatred, violence. Divide and conquer.
Good point, Annie.
Some of the most notorious cases of labeling and dehumanizing were:
- Before the Rwandan genocide, Tutsis were labeled “cockroaches" by the Hutus, in other words, just vermin that needed to be eradicated.
- Before the Armenian deportation and genocide, Turks called the Armenians, “dangerous microbes.”
- During the the Holocaust, Germans described Jews as “Untermenschen,” or subhumans. Roma people were "Gypsy mongrels" and together with the Jews were considered "enemies of the racial state"
It's worth remembering that anti-communist dissidents were labeled "enemies of the people", in the former communist countries. That's from the same playbook as labeling "anti-american" a majority of US citizens who reject and rejected Trump twice, in democratic elections (note that the american press was also labeled "enemy of the people", by Trump himself)
Don't want to choose sides here but for pure balance I will remind you that Hillary Clinton called Trump voters xenophobic and misogynistic and most of all a "Basket of deplorables". Left polticians have a habit of calling anyone, that don't agree with them, a threat to democracy. You can call out all things of the right you dislike but remember that the left uses actually the same words and phrases as they do.
No difference. It's, once again, political retoric.
It's just that when the other one says it, you find it's horrible and it's awful but if your side says it it's a laugh and the truth, right? And that goes for both sides.
What you think is right and good for you doesn't mean it's the truth, is good for another or automatically respects another persons wishes.
I know about the "deplorables", but I didn't hear the other labels, explicitly mentioned.
Anyway, "deplorable" comes from the French "pleurer" meaning to weep, to cry out, in other words, the hopeless state of those people made her lament and weep.
That shows concern and care and it's rather harmless and fundamentally different than labeling someone the "enemy of the state" or "anti-American" (which is basically the same). :P
The playbook goes like this: labeling, taking sides, de-humanizing the other side, attack/defense, hatred, violence. Divide and conquer.
Good point, Annie.
Some of the most notorious cases of labeling and dehumanizing were:
- Before the Rwandan genocide, Tutsis were labeled “cockroaches" by the Hutus, in other words, just vermin that needed to be eradicated.
- Before the Armenian deportation and genocide, Turks called the Armenians, “dangerous microbes.”
- During the the Holocaust, Germans described Jews as “Untermenschen,” or subhumans. Roma people were "Gypsy mongrels" and together with the Jews were considered "enemies of the racial state"
It's worth remembering that anti-communist dissidents were labeled "enemies of the people", in the former communist countries. That's from the same playbook as labeling "anti-american" a majority of US citizens who reject and rejected Trump twice, in democratic elections (note that the american press was also labeled "enemy of the people", by Trump himself)
Don't want to choose sides here but for pure balance I will remind you that Hillary Clinton called Trump voters xenophobic and misogynistic and most of all a "Basket of deplorables". Left polticians have a habit of calling anyone, that don't agree with them, a threat to democracy. You can call out all things of the right you dislike but remember that the left uses actually the same words and phrases as they do.
No difference. It's, once again, political retoric.
It's just that when the other one says it, you find it's horrible and it's awful but if your side says it it's a laugh and the truth, right? And that goes for both sides.
What you think is right and good for you doesn't mean it's the truth, is good for another or automatically respects another persons wishes.
I know about the "deplorables", but I didn't hear the other labels, explicitly mentioned.
Anyway, "deplorable" comes from the French "pleurer" meaning to weep, to cry out, in other words, the hopeless state of those people made her lament and weep.
That shows concern and care and it's rather harmless and fundamentally different than labeling someone the "enemy of the state" or "anti-American" (which is basically the same). :P
To refresh your memory watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCHJVE9trSM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCHJVE9trSM) and watch closely at the sign in front of her stating "stronger together". So, right is horrible but don't pretend left is shy from using the same insults, hypocrisy and disrespect. All the same.
And feeling sorry for someone else with a different opinion is actually the most insulting thing you can think of. It's way beyond having no respect for another person.
The playbook goes like this: labeling, taking sides, de-humanizing the other side, attack/defense, hatred, violence. Divide and conquer.
Good point, Annie.
Some of the most notorious cases of labeling and dehumanizing were:
- Before the Rwandan genocide, Tutsis were labeled “cockroaches" by the Hutus, in other words, just vermin that needed to be eradicated.
- Before the Armenian deportation and genocide, Turks called the Armenians, “dangerous microbes.”
- During the the Holocaust, Germans described Jews as “Untermenschen,” or subhumans. Roma people were "Gypsy mongrels" and together with the Jews were considered "enemies of the racial state"
It's worth remembering that anti-communist dissidents were labeled "enemies of the people", in the former communist countries. That's from the same playbook as labeling "anti-american" a majority of US citizens who reject and rejected Trump twice, in democratic elections (note that the american press was also labeled "enemy of the people", by Trump himself)
Don't want to choose sides here but for pure balance I will remind you that Hillary Clinton called Trump voters xenophobic and misogynistic and most of all a "Basket of deplorables". Left polticians have a habit of calling anyone, that don't agree with them, a threat to democracy. You can call out all things of the right you dislike but remember that the left uses actually the same words and phrases as they do.
No difference. It's, once again, political retoric.
It's just that when the other one says it, you find it's horrible and it's awful but if your side says it it's a laugh and the truth, right? And that goes for both sides.
What you think is right and good for you doesn't mean it's the truth, is good for another or automatically respects another persons wishes.
I know about the "deplorables", but I didn't hear the other labels, explicitly mentioned.
Anyway, "deplorable" comes from the French "pleurer" meaning to weep, to cry out, in other words, the hopeless state of those people made her lament and weep.
That shows concern and care and it's rather harmless and fundamentally different than labeling someone the "enemy of the state" or "anti-American" (which is basically the same). :P
To refresh your memory watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCHJVE9trSM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCHJVE9trSM) and watch closely at the sign in front of her stating "stronger together". So, right is horrible but don't pretend left is shy from using the same insults, hypocrisy and disrespect. All the same.
And feeling sorry for someone else with a different opinion is actually the most insulting thing you can think of. It's way beyond having no respect for another person.
Left polticians have a habit of calling anyone, that don't agree with them, a threat to democracy.
All these are just factors. In fact, all European countries around, the USA, Great Britain, etc. are to blame. Everyone is to blame for not wanting to see that the * came to power, did not apply sanctions and did not kill the snake in the bud. We see the same thing now, in the early 90s it was possible to apply sanctions to Russia, but this was not done and until the last everyone traded with Russia, and Merkel was generally a KGB agent.And history has actually warned us. As a German, I fervently hope and pray that I will not have to experience the times when someone should get the idea to make Germany great again! I hope people understand what I mean.unfortunately I understand your message as if you equal a desire of the people to have their country independent and strong to Hitler time nazism
If you look at what led to Hitler coming to power back then, I can definitely see parallels:
- Due to the defeat in the First World War, the Germans felt their nation was weak.
- There was a world economic crisis with high inflation.
- As a result, there were many unemployed.
- The political wings drifted further and further to the extremes: the National Socialists and the Communists became stronger and stronger and organized more and more uprisings. They conveyed to the people that they could achieve economic and political stability and make Germany great again.
- The first coups against democracy (Weimar Republic) took place.
- Conspiracy theories intensified. One of them was the "stab in the back" legend. This myth said that Germany had lost the war not on the battlefield, but through "treason within." Jews, Social Democrats and Communists were made responsible for this. From the point of view of the National Socialists, it could not be that the great and strong Germans had lost the war on the battlefield. Therefore, another reason had to be invented so that they would no longer feel weak.
We should all keep our eyes vigilantly open so that history does not repeat itself. Because some of the patterns from back then I unfortunately already recognize in Lots of places around the globe.
All these are just factors. In fact, all European countries around, the USA, Great Britain, etc. are to blame. Everyone is to blame for not wanting to see that the * came to power, did not apply sanctions and did not kill the snake in the bud. We see the same thing now, in the early 90s it was possible to apply sanctions to Russia, but this was not done and until the last everyone traded with Russia, and Merkel was generally a KGB agent.And history has actually warned us. As a German, I fervently hope and pray that I will not have to experience the times when someone should get the idea to make Germany great again! I hope people understand what I mean.unfortunately I understand your message as if you equal a desire of the people to have their country independent and strong to Hitler time nazism
If you look at what led to Hitler coming to power back then, I can definitely see parallels:
- Due to the defeat in the First World War, the Germans felt their nation was weak.
- There was a world economic crisis with high inflation.
- As a result, there were many unemployed.
- The political wings drifted further and further to the extremes: the National Socialists and the Communists became stronger and stronger and organized more and more uprisings. They conveyed to the people that they could achieve economic and political stability and make Germany great again.
- The first coups against democracy (Weimar Republic) took place.
- Conspiracy theories intensified. One of them was the "stab in the back" legend. This myth said that Germany had lost the war not on the battlefield, but through "treason within." Jews, Social Democrats and Communists were made responsible for this. From the point of view of the National Socialists, it could not be that the great and strong Germans had lost the war on the battlefield. Therefore, another reason had to be invented so that they would no longer feel weak.
We should all keep our eyes vigilantly open so that history does not repeat itself. Because some of the patterns from back then I unfortunately already recognize in Lots of places around the globe.
The same is true for China.
This is obvious, just as all her politics and connections with Putin are obvious. Read her biography, her father's biography. She worked for the Kremlin all her life, not officially of course.All these are just factors. In fact, all European countries around, the USA, Great Britain, etc. are to blame. Everyone is to blame for not wanting to see that the * came to power, did not apply sanctions and did not kill the snake in the bud. We see the same thing now, in the early 90s it was possible to apply sanctions to Russia, but this was not done and until the last everyone traded with Russia, and Merkel was generally a KGB agent.And history has actually warned us. As a German, I fervently hope and pray that I will not have to experience the times when someone should get the idea to make Germany great again! I hope people understand what I mean.unfortunately I understand your message as if you equal a desire of the people to have their country independent and strong to Hitler time nazism
If you look at what led to Hitler coming to power back then, I can definitely see parallels:
- Due to the defeat in the First World War, the Germans felt their nation was weak.
- There was a world economic crisis with high inflation.
- As a result, there were many unemployed.
- The political wings drifted further and further to the extremes: the National Socialists and the Communists became stronger and stronger and organized more and more uprisings. They conveyed to the people that they could achieve economic and political stability and make Germany great again.
- The first coups against democracy (Weimar Republic) took place.
- Conspiracy theories intensified. One of them was the "stab in the back" legend. This myth said that Germany had lost the war not on the battlefield, but through "treason within." Jews, Social Democrats and Communists were made responsible for this. From the point of view of the National Socialists, it could not be that the great and strong Germans had lost the war on the battlefield. Therefore, another reason had to be invented so that they would no longer feel weak.
We should all keep our eyes vigilantly open so that history does not repeat itself. Because some of the patterns from back then I unfortunately already recognize in Lots of places around the globe.
The same is true for China.
Aha, Merkel was a KGB agent? That's news to me. You obviously know more than I do.
The playbook goes like this: labeling, taking sides, de-humanizing the other side, attack/defense, hatred, violence. Divide and conquer.
Good point, Annie.
Some of the most notorious cases of labeling and dehumanizing were:
- Before the Rwandan genocide, Tutsis were labeled “cockroaches" by the Hutus, in other words, just vermin that needed to be eradicated.
- Before the Armenian deportation and genocide, Turks called the Armenians, “dangerous microbes.”
- During the the Holocaust, Germans described Jews as “Untermenschen,” or subhumans. Roma people were "Gypsy mongrels" and together with the Jews were considered "enemies of the racial state"
It's worth remembering that anti-communist dissidents were labeled "enemies of the people", in the former communist countries. That's from the same playbook as labeling "anti-american" a majority of US citizens who reject and rejected Trump twice, in democratic elections (note that the american press was also labeled "enemy of the people", by Trump himself)
Yes, I think the Tutsis, and Jews in the 1930s, issues are perfect examples of this. By calling them cockroaches and dehumanizing them, they allow people to eventually commit extremely violent crimes against them because they are not 'real people'. Its a conditioning process.
I think xenophobia is a real issue and exists whenever there is a lot of underlining fears and scarcity (re. Wilm's story of 1930s Germany above) and should be addressed. And its still behind a lot of things today. Brexit (which is now destroying Britain's economy), Orban used it to win election in Hungary (a Hungarian friend was describing how bad Hungary is now under his rule). Trump during his first presidential campaign speeches: Mexican immigrants are rapists.
A friend showed me a QAnon 'recruitment' video a while ago - not to recruit me but to show how bad it was. It was about the time I first watched that "Why We Hate" documentary I mentioned above, and I could immediately see the pattern. The first five minutes of this video was really dark and menacing, preying on people's fears. The first few minutes! There it was!
Of course, if you don't have those fears, then you don't fall victim to it. But there is obviously a large part of society that do, and these issues need to be addressed - not amplifying the fears themselves and using them for political advantage and control.
Last night I started watching "Why We Hate" again and its very insightful. For any Aussies reading this, I finally found it on SBS On-Demand, but it expires in a couple of days' time. There's 6 episodes so you will need time for a marathon. Not sure where else its showing. It was first aired on the Discovery channel, I believe.
There is nothing wrong with being either a liberal or a conservative, but I just want people to become aware of manipulative politicians and the tell-tale signs. Vote for leaders that have a strong sense of morality. They may not be as 'charismatic' as these other ones - but they will have your real needs close to their heart.
Anyway, I could go on and on about this, but I won't take up any more of people's time.
This is obvious, just as all her politics and connections with Putin are obvious. Read her biography, her father's biography. She worked for the Kremlin all her life, not officially of course.All these are just factors. In fact, all European countries around, the USA, Great Britain, etc. are to blame. Everyone is to blame for not wanting to see that the * came to power, did not apply sanctions and did not kill the snake in the bud. We see the same thing now, in the early 90s it was possible to apply sanctions to Russia, but this was not done and until the last everyone traded with Russia, and Merkel was generally a KGB agent.And history has actually warned us. As a German, I fervently hope and pray that I will not have to experience the times when someone should get the idea to make Germany great again! I hope people understand what I mean.unfortunately I understand your message as if you equal a desire of the people to have their country independent and strong to Hitler time nazism
If you look at what led to Hitler coming to power back then, I can definitely see parallels:
- Due to the defeat in the First World War, the Germans felt their nation was weak.
- There was a world economic crisis with high inflation.
- As a result, there were many unemployed.
- The political wings drifted further and further to the extremes: the National Socialists and the Communists became stronger and stronger and organized more and more uprisings. They conveyed to the people that they could achieve economic and political stability and make Germany great again.
- The first coups against democracy (Weimar Republic) took place.
- Conspiracy theories intensified. One of them was the "stab in the back" legend. This myth said that Germany had lost the war not on the battlefield, but through "treason within." Jews, Social Democrats and Communists were made responsible for this. From the point of view of the National Socialists, it could not be that the great and strong Germans had lost the war on the battlefield. Therefore, another reason had to be invented so that they would no longer feel weak.
We should all keep our eyes vigilantly open so that history does not repeat itself. Because some of the patterns from back then I unfortunately already recognize in Lots of places around the globe.
The same is true for China.
Aha, Merkel was a KGB agent? That's news to me. You obviously know more than I do.
Do you have access to any secret archives if you know about things that are "not official"?Information slowly penetrates into the press, but not much, tk. this will probably interfere with Scholz, who is required to have the right policy.
She grew up in the GDR, which emerged from the Soviet occupation zone. Thus, she was probably closer to socialism at that time than the West Germans. However, she took a very negative view of Russia's development under Putin, openly criticizing Russia's de-democratization to Putin.
She grew up in the GDR, which emerged from the Soviet occupation zone.Good start, you can keep digging.
Anyway, I could go on and on about this, but I won't take up any more of people's time.
They were only "chased away" after WWII, when large numbers were deported to Siberia by the russian occupying army, beying suspected of nazi collaborationism.
Anyway, I could go on and on about this, but I won't take up any more of people's time.
Transylvanian Saxons, not many will know that history but after they did much to build the country, they were in effect, more recently, chased out of their own homes, which were taken over. Their history was destroyed, records and documents. That's hate.
Enemy of the state has been applied by both sides in the US, to the others. God is on our side was used by the Germans in the world wars.
In the end, those in power and the winners of battles, or wars, write the history.
However, she took a very negative view of Russia's development under Putin, openly criticizing Russia's de-democratization to Putin.You should not just listen to what politicians say, you need to watch what they do. They say one thing and do another, that's how Russian agents work.
However, she took a very negative view of Russia's development under Putin, openly criticizing Russia's de-democratization to Putin.You should not just listen to what politicians say, you need to watch what they do. They say one thing and do another, that's how Russian agents work.
What can I say about Merkel, about her affairs, I won’t list everything, she ruled for many years.
1. Kept Georgia and Ukraine out of NATO in 2008.
2. Forced Kyiv to sign a surrender in 2014, the Minsk agreements.
3. She built Nord Stream 2 in order to help Russia occupy Ukraine, but at the same time not lose gas for Germany.
4. Made Germany very dependent on Russian energy.
5. Carried out an anti-American policy, carefully. I'm not talking about how long Russian agents and soft power in the form of various funds, TV channels were in Germany.
Rake and rake. And nothing, he sits on his pension, and is not responsible for anything.
Do you have access to any secret archives if you know about things that are "not official"?Information slowly penetrates into the press, but not much, tk. this will probably interfere with Scholz, who is required to have the right policy.
She grew up in the GDR, which emerged from the Soviet occupation zone. Thus, she was probably closer to socialism at that time than the West Germans. However, she took a very negative view of Russia's development under Putin, openly criticizing Russia's de-democratization to Putin.
Any good career as a pioneer, a communist is not just like that. She knows Russian well. In those years, Putin also worked in the GDR as a scout. As a result, a former communist from the GDR sat at the head of Germany for many years. How beautiful.
They say there and there was a connection between them, but I won’t say, and so I wrote enough.
However, she took a very negative view of Russia's development under Putin, openly criticizing Russia's de-democratization to Putin.You should not just listen to what politicians say, you need to watch what they do. They say one thing and do another, that's how Russian agents work.
What can I say about Merkel, about her affairs, I won’t list everything, she ruled for many years.
1. Kept Georgia and Ukraine out of NATO in 2008.
2. Forced Kyiv to sign a surrender in 2014, the Minsk agreements.
3. She built Nord Stream 2 in order to help Russia occupy Ukraine, but at the same time not lose gas for Germany.
4. Made Germany very dependent on Russian energy.
5. Carried out an anti-American policy, carefully. I'm not talking about how long Russian agents and soft power in the form of various funds, TV channels were in Germany.
Rake and rake. And nothing, he sits on his pension, and is not responsible for anything.
I am not saying that she is a russian agent, but she clearly lacked vision irt Putin.
Her predecessor Schröder, is not even hiding it, being directly employed by Putin, after he left office.
But this is not uncommon among European politicians. Here is a list:
Gerhard Schröder (former German prime-minister),
Matteo Renzi (former Italian prime-minister),
Christian Kern (former Austrian chancelor),
François Fillon (former French prime-minister),
Esko Aho (former Finish prime-minister),
Pavoli Poonem (former Finish prime-minister)
Karin Kneissl (former Austrian minister of foreign affairs)
Hans Jörg Schelling (former Austrian minister of finance),
Dominique Strauss-Kahn (former IMF director)
All of them were employed by Putin.
See Karin Kneissl here
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRG2KkSXEAIBtEC.jpg)
... bowing in front of Putin, special guest at her 2018 wedding. ::)
All these useful idiots should have know better and should have listen to countries like Poland, Romania, the Baltic countries, etc who constantly warned them about the russian danger, after experiencing it first hand, for decades.
What this has to do with Angela Merkel, however, I do not know.
But this is not uncommon among European politicians. Here is a list:These are not idiots, these are agents recruited by the KGB. Working for the interests of the Russian Federation.
Gerhard Schröder (former German prime-minister),
Matteo Renzi (former Italian prime-minister),
Christian Kern (former Austrian chancelor),
François Fillon (former French prime-minister),
Esko Aho (former Finish prime-minister),
Pavoli Poonem (former Finish prime-minister)
Karin Kneissl (former Austrian minister of foreign affairs)
Hans Jörg Schelling (former Austrian minister of finance),
Dominique Strauss-Kahn (former IMF director)
All these useful idiots
Why Angela Merkel's father chose the GDR and not the FRG can be read. It had to do with his theological profession.Good legend, I see it working so far.
The statement "They say..." is - with respect - not helpful. Who says that? Where does any and trustworthy information come from. Who are "they"?Yes, her whole policy suggests that she was recruited by the KGB back in the years of the USSR.
What this has to do with Angela Merkel, however, I do not know.Direct is relevant. Merkel complied with the Kremlin's order, lobbied for the construction of a gas pipeline in the EU and, accordingly, did everything to ensure that the Russian Federation attacked Ukraine. If the Russian Federation occupies Ukraine, then the Russian Federation will go to the Baltic states, Poland and reach Berlin. The entire former social camp will be occupied again.
He succesfully made sure that German politicians banned fracking, banned nuclear energy, banned coal, etc making Germany heavily depended on russian gas, all this (also) under Merkel's watch.She should be put in jail for this. Arrest her, she will give you a bunch of KGB agents all over the EU.
He succesfully made sure that German politicians banned fracking, banned nuclear energy, banned coal, etc making Germany heavily depended on russian gas, all this (also) under Merkel's watch.
It's not strange. It's the consequence of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, when Germany was caught with its pants down.He succesfully made sure that German politicians banned fracking, banned nuclear energy, banned coal, etc making Germany heavily depended on russian gas, all this (also) under Merkel's watch.
Strange, we still have nuclear power plants and coal mining (and will have till 2038!) in Germany. Didn't help much with the dependency on russian gas, did it?
The dependence of Germany and the EU on Russia was huge. That's why gas prices went up. There is nothing good in continuing to burn coal or develop nuclear power. A green policy is a good idea, but when it is implemented by normal politicians, and not agents of the KGB.He succesfully made sure that German politicians banned fracking, banned nuclear energy, banned coal, etc making Germany heavily depended on russian gas, all this (also) under Merkel's watch.Strange, we still have nuclear power plants and coal mining (and will have till 2038!) in Germany. Didn't help much with the dependency on russian gas, did it?
The realities of the war triggered the reversal of those naive policies adopted during Merkel's time in office.You can speak softly and call Merkel's policy naive, or you can speak straight and tell the truth. KGB agents are not naive people.
The realities of the war triggered the reversal of those naive policies adopted during Merkel's time in office.You can speak softly and call Merkel's policy naive, or you can speak straight and tell the truth. KGB agents are not naive people.
It's not strange. It's the consequence of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, when Germany was caught with its pants down.He succesfully made sure that German politicians banned fracking, banned nuclear energy, banned coal, etc making Germany heavily depended on russian gas, all this (also) under Merkel's watch.
Strange, we still have nuclear power plants and coal mining (and will have till 2038!) in Germany. Didn't help much with the dependency on russian gas, did it?
The realities of the war triggered the reversal of those naive policies adopted during Merkel's time in office.
The plans to completely shut down all nuclear power plants were canceled, and coal power plants were re-opened.
And fracking on German soil is still banned isn't it?
It's not strange. It's the consequence of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, when Germany was caught with its pants down.He succesfully made sure that German politicians banned fracking, banned nuclear energy, banned coal, etc making Germany heavily depended on russian gas, all this (also) under Merkel's watch.
Strange, we still have nuclear power plants and coal mining (and will have till 2038!) in Germany. Didn't help much with the dependency on russian gas, did it?
The realities of the war triggered the reversal of those naive policies adopted during Merkel's time in office.
The plans to completely shut down all nuclear power plants were canceled, and coal power plants were re-opened.
And fracking on German soil is still banned isn't it?
Fracking is not generally prohibited in Germany. Fracking is indeed carried out - for example by Exxon Mobil - but without contributing significantly to the energy supply.
The German population is very cautious about it because of the chemicals used and the potential danger of poisoning groundwater and drinking water. Since the population density in Germany is about 8 times that in the U.S., these concerns are understandable. The companies that use fracking have no duty to disclose the chemicals they use. The CO2 balance of fracked shale gas is worse than that of coal. Incidentally, there are only about a fifth of the shale gas deposits in the whole of Europe, compared to the USA. It is estimated that even if the reserves were exhausted, Germany would still be dependent on 80% gas imports.
Now, fracked gas is also being delivered from the USA. How high the share of the required gas demand is, is not known to me. I would have to research it.
Overall, Germany is a resource-poor country that has to cover 70% of its energy needs from imports. Lignite is actually the only raw material that can be extracted here, but its environmental record is disastrous. Therefore, attempts are being made to cut back on this, but the attack on Ukraine has led to a step backwards. Hard coal and uranium are 100% imported, oil 98% and natural gas 94%.
Therefore, there is a strong focus on renewable energies. Wind and solar energy are to be mentioned here. Photovoltaic systems, however, are imported 100% from China. So there is a very high dependency in this segment as well. And the population is not uncritical of renewable energies, which would give Germany more independence. Due to the high population density, wind turbines are located increasingly closer to settlements.
As far as nuclear energy is concerned, the population is also divided. Fukushima initially led to a significant increase in skepticism - even though there are currently, of course, more voices in favor of nuclear energy again. In addition, the problem of final storage is much greater here than in countries with large, extremely sparsely populated areas. In France, the situation is different - there, the focus is more on nuclear energy. Last year, by the way, with problems that the rivers became too warm for cooling.
The EU - including Germany - definitely wanted supply diversification for natural gas. One wanted to achieve access to the Caspian natural gas deposits with the project "Nabucco", in order to reduce the dependence on Gazprom. In addition to the fact that the EU would have been dependent on Turkey's reliability in the transit of the gas, the project failed because the gas-producing consortium decided in 2013 not to supply gas through the Nabucco pipeline. Nabucco, by the way, would not have gone through either Russia or Ukraine.
You also have to imagine things a bit more complicated here than in the U.S., for example. There, a pipeline runs through one country, whereas here in Europe it runs through countless countries, which of course entails a much higher potential for problems, especially if there are different political views.
It's not strange. It's the consequence of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, when Germany was caught with its pants down.He succesfully made sure that German politicians banned fracking, banned nuclear energy, banned coal, etc making Germany heavily depended on russian gas, all this (also) under Merkel's watch.
Strange, we still have nuclear power plants and coal mining (and will have till 2038!) in Germany. Didn't help much with the dependency on russian gas, did it?
The realities of the war triggered the reversal of those naive policies adopted during Merkel's time in office.
The plans to completely shut down all nuclear power plants were canceled, and coal power plants were re-opened.
And fracking on German soil is still banned isn't it?
Fracking is not generally prohibited in Germany. Fracking is indeed carried out - for example by Exxon Mobil - but without contributing significantly to the energy supply.
The German population is very cautious about it because of the chemicals used and the potential danger of poisoning groundwater and drinking water. Since the population density in Germany is about 8 times that in the U.S., these concerns are understandable. The companies that use fracking have no duty to disclose the chemicals they use. The CO2 balance of fracked shale gas is worse than that of coal. Incidentally, there are only about a fifth of the shale gas deposits in the whole of Europe, compared to the USA. It is estimated that even if the reserves were exhausted, Germany would still be dependent on 80% gas imports.
Now, fracked gas is also being delivered from the USA. How high the share of the required gas demand is, is not known to me. I would have to research it.
Overall, Germany is a resource-poor country that has to cover 70% of its energy needs from imports. Lignite is actually the only raw material that can be extracted here, but its environmental record is disastrous. Therefore, attempts are being made to cut back on this, but the attack on Ukraine has led to a step backwards. Hard coal and uranium are 100% imported, oil 98% and natural gas 94%.
Therefore, there is a strong focus on renewable energies. Wind and solar energy are to be mentioned here. Photovoltaic systems, however, are imported 100% from China. So there is a very high dependency in this segment as well. And the population is not uncritical of renewable energies, which would give Germany more independence. Due to the high population density, wind turbines are located increasingly closer to settlements.
As far as nuclear energy is concerned, the population is also divided. Fukushima initially led to a significant increase in skepticism - even though there are currently, of course, more voices in favor of nuclear energy again. In addition, the problem of final storage is much greater here than in countries with large, extremely sparsely populated areas. In France, the situation is different - there, the focus is more on nuclear energy. Last year, by the way, with problems that the rivers became too warm for cooling.
The EU - including Germany - definitely wanted supply diversification for natural gas. One wanted to achieve access to the Caspian natural gas deposits with the project "Nabucco", in order to reduce the dependence on Gazprom. In addition to the fact that the EU would have been dependent on Turkey's reliability in the transit of the gas, the project failed because the gas-producing consortium decided in 2013 not to supply gas through the Nabucco pipeline. Nabucco, by the way, would not have gone through either Russia or Ukraine.
You also have to imagine things a bit more complicated here than in the U.S., for example. There, a pipeline runs through one country, whereas here in Europe it runs through countless countries, which of course entails a much higher potential for problems, especially if there are different political views.
Importing nuclear energy from France, while phasing it out in Germany (+ asking France to shutdown some nuclear reactors near the German border) or importing fracked oil and gas from the USA (while banning it from Germany since 2017) is a bit hypochritical, don't you think?
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Importing nuclear energy from France, while phasing it out in Germany (+ asking France to shutdown some nuclear reactors near the German border)
What must be acknowledged is that such concerns (against nuclear, fracking, coal, and climate change in general) are sponsored and influenced by Russia (+ their troll farm from Sankt Petersburg doing a great job, fanning the flames with the general public).
Russia wants to eliminate its competitors, to corner the market to remain the main energy supplier for Europe. One must be really naive to deny that.
Importing nuclear energy from France, while phasing it out in Germany (+ asking France to shutdown some nuclear reactors near the German border) or importing fracked oil and gas from the USA (while banning it from Germany since 2017) is a bit hypochritical, don't you think?
However, these days, more down to earth politicians, awaken by Russia's aggression, are reconsidering Merkel's ban on fracking and are revisiting her plans to phase out nuclear and coal.
This U-turn is also seen in other EU countries, btw.
Russia wants to eliminate its competitors, to corner the market to remain the main energy supplier for Europe. One must be really naive to deny that.Putin's goals are not only economic, I would say the main political goals. The main goal of Russia is the restoration of the USSR and the socialist camp, including Germany, as well as the collapse of the EU.
In my opinion, Merkel's erroneous decisions are defined by the law of unintended consequences;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What must be acknowledged is that such concerns (against nuclear, fracking, coal, and climate change in general) are sponsored and influenced by Russia (+ their troll farm from Sankt Petersburg doing a great job, fanning the flames with the general public).
Russia wants to eliminate its competitors, to corner the market to remain the main energy supplier for Europe. One must be really naive to deny that.
Importing nuclear energy from France, while phasing it out in Germany (+ asking France to shutdown some nuclear reactors near the German border) or importing fracked oil and gas from the USA (while banning it from Germany since 2017) is a bit hypochritical, don't you think?
However, these days, more down to earth politicians, awaken by Russia's aggression, are reconsidering Merkel's ban on fracking and are revisiting her plans to phase out nuclear and coal.
This U-turn is also seen in other EU countries, btw.
As far as the hypocrisy of German energy policy is concerned, I agree with the reasons you gave.
But why the influence of Russian propaganda is constantly proclaimed here for all German political decisions is not comprehensible to me in all points.
Take nuclear energy, for example.
I think there is no question that this kind of energy production can be seen controversially.
At the end of the 70's an anti-nuclear movement arose here in Germany, from which the Green Party developed. We may assume that the influence of Russian troll factories at that time may not have played a role.
When the Greens were in government at some point, the decision was made to phase out nuclear energy.
In 2010, the government under Angela Merkel reversed this decision and decided to extend the operating lives of nuclear power plants
.
It wasn't until the Fukushima nuclear disaster on March 11, 2011, that the government changed course and decided to phase out nuclear power.
At least as far as the attitude toward nuclear energy is concerned, I see no evidence of Russian influence here at any point. I do not want to judge the decision. However, the development has arisen from obvious historical events.
As far as fracking is concerned, Wilm has already pointed out the German peculiarities.
I agree that the russian troll farm didn't exist back in the day and some of the decisions may have come out of good intentions (exemplifying the law of unintended consequences, as I said above).
However, these days, the russian troll farm is pushing hard the climate change topic, to make sure Russia remains dominant on the energy market (speaking about the ultimate hypochrisy ::))
Here are some examples of memes, targeting the public opinion, as a way to influence politicians (from US, but I'm sure you have your fair share in EU)
However, I don't see any evidence that this propaganda is influencing political decisions on the whole, at least in Germany.
But I don't want a second Chernobyl.Forget Chernobyl. Now such nuclear power plants are no longer being built, modern plants are much more reliable and safer.
However, I don't see any evidence that this propaganda is influencing political decisions on the whole, at least in Germany.
I'm fairy certain that most politicians do listen to the public opinion and act accordingly or else they don't get (re)elected (especially these days, when populism is on the rise).
But I don't want a second Chernobyl.Forget Chernobyl. Now such nuclear power plants are no longer being built, modern plants are much more reliable and safer.
For example, the Russians are constantly shelling the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant in Ukraine, disconnecting it from the power grid, storing ammunition on its territory, but the station is still standing, although for some reason the whole world does not care about it.
At the expense of Chernobyl, the accident was then the result of experiments conducted by the Kremlin on Ukrainian soil. I can't say that it was a planned genocide of Ukrainians, but I heard that experiments were simply made at this station for the dissertation of some official in Moscow. Accordingly, the station was loaded beyond its capabilities. Further, the USSR tried to hide everything from the world as much as possible, as a result, the necessary assistance was not received in a timely manner.
However, I don't see any evidence that this propaganda is influencing political decisions on the whole, at least in Germany.
I'm fairy certain that most politicians do listen to the public opinion and act accordingly or else they don't get (re)elected (especially these days, when populism is on the rise).
From my point of view, only a small, albeit extreme, part of the population is impressed and influenced by Russian propaganda.
To your thesis about the hearing of politicians for the population:
Nuclear power plants are switched off here in Germany this month against the will of around 2 thirds of the population.
And when the Russians threaten to use nuclear weapons today, they are at the same time threatening the countries around which they want to make the Russian Empire "great again". A paradox in itself.The great empire in Russian concerns only the titular nation, only Russians by nationality. All other occupied peoples in this empire as slaves, who are not sorry. Yes, and the Russians do not feel sorry for their own nation, in Russia there are only 2 cities in which the elect live, these are Moscow and St. Petersburg, these are the centers of the Russian empire. Now in Russia, the mobilization of the population for the war in Ukraine, in Moscow and St. Petersburg, few people are taken, driven to slaughter, mainly peoples of other nationalities or Russians by nationality from other cities.
And when the Russians threaten to use nuclear weapons today, they are at the same time threatening the countries around which they want to make the Russian Empire "great again". A paradox in itself.The great empire in Russian concerns only the titular nation, only Russians by nationality. All other occupied peoples in this empire as slaves, who are not sorry. Yes, and the Russians do not feel sorry for their own nation, in Russia there are only 2 cities in which the elect live, these are Moscow and St. Petersburg, these are the centers of the Russian empire. Now in Russia, the mobilization of the population for the war in Ukraine, in Moscow and St. Petersburg, few people are taken, driven to slaughter, mainly peoples of other nationalities or Russians by nationality from other cities.
Russia is a horde, originates from the Mongol-Tatar yoke, nothing has changed there. This empire lives only through murder, terrorism, occupation, enslavement and robbery. In this she sees her greatness.
How do you see your energy security without nuclear power plants?
From a philosophical point of view, you are right. Children are also born innocent.And when the Russians threaten to use nuclear weapons today, they are at the same time threatening the countries around which they want to make the Russian Empire "great again". A paradox in itself.The great empire in Russian concerns only the titular nation, only Russians by nationality. All other occupied peoples in this empire as slaves, who are not sorry. Yes, and the Russians do not feel sorry for their own nation, in Russia there are only 2 cities in which the elect live, these are Moscow and St. Petersburg, these are the centers of the Russian empire. Now in Russia, the mobilization of the population for the war in Ukraine, in Moscow and St. Petersburg, few people are taken, driven to slaughter, mainly peoples of other nationalities or Russians by nationality from other cities.
Russia is a horde, originates from the Mongol-Tatar yoke, nothing has changed there. This empire lives only through murder, terrorism, occupation, enslavement and robbery. In this she sees her greatness.
How do you see your energy security without nuclear power plants?
Personally, I am opposed to such generalizations. I believe that the majority of Russians - just like us - want peaceful coexistence. The discord is sown by those who in their narcissism strive for power, influence and more and more money. All over the globe. And these people try to push dictatorial measures so that they get even more power.
I believe that the majority of Russians - just like us - want peaceful coexistence. The discord is sown by those who in their narcissism strive for power, influence and more and more money. All over the globe. And these people try to push dictatorial measures so that they get even more power.
You can also argue that if the Western world did not participate in the coup in 2014 in Ukraine and Nato stayed with it's promise not to get closer to Russian's border all of this would not have taken place. It's not that I take side of Russia but sure as hell the Western world is guilty here as well. Nobody cared when the Ukranian army was bombarding houses and people in the East of Ukraine because, hey, it was a pro-western government. Same as being lied to that the Western world have no part in this conflict while the leaked documents completely say the contrary. It goes way beyond sending weapons. All political play.
But I guess if the western world wants to wage war against russia then the split in the world community (everybody is taking sides now) actually started when the Westen world continued to work their way up east, USA, EU and NATO. History will tell and I know a lot of people don't see it now but for me it's pretty clear.
But good luck with destroying Russia. The world might be a better place without it, but I guess China is next and then maybe India until everybody lives as the USA and the EU dictates us how to live.
It worked also very well in Irak, Libia, Afghanistan and each country that the Western world had invaded and left in rubbles. They all had to be liberated and what paradises they have become :)
Russia has been identified as one of the main countries attempting to interfere in Australia's democracy, with intelligence agencies monitoring continuing efforts by Moscow to influence politics here.
A current intelligence source and a government source have confirmed the country's domestic spy agency, ASIO, has recently investigated at least one major effort to back pro-Russian figures for an unspecified Australian political contest.
Most details of the conspiracy remain hidden, but the ABC has confirmed it involved an individual based in Australia with close links to President Vladmir Putin's regime.
... "The point of difference between Russia and China is that Russia is an opportunistic interferer in elections anywhere in the Western world but, particularly, focusing on Five-Eyes [an intelligence-sharing network that includes Australia] and EU destabilisation".
You can also argue that if the Western world did not participate in the coup in 2014 in Ukraine and Nato stayed with it's promise not to get closer to Russian's border all of this would not have taken place.
You can also argue that if the Western world did not participate in the coup in 2014 in Ukraine and Nato stayed with it's promise not to get closer to Russian's border all of this would not have taken place. It's not that I take side of Russia but sure as hell the Western world is guilty here as well. Nobody cared when the Ukranian army was bombarding houses and people in the East of Ukraine because, hey, it was a pro-western government. Same as being lied to that the Western world have no part in this conflict while the leaked documents completely say the contrary. It goes way beyond sending weapons. All political play.
But I guess if the western world wants to wage war against russia then the split in the world community (everybody is taking sides now) actually started when the Westen world continued to work their way up east, USA, EU and NATO. History will tell and I know a lot of people don't see it now but for me it's pretty clear.
But good luck with destroying Russia. The world might be a better place without it, but I guess China is next and then maybe India until everybody lives as the USA and the EU dictates us how to live.
It worked also very well in Irak, Libia, Afghanistan and each country that the Western world had invaded and left in rubbles. They all had to be liberated and what paradises they have become :)
The problem is that Putin's aim for a very long time was to dismantle NATO and weaken the EU. He has systematically placed his puppets in as many leadership roles as possible, removed Britain from the EU, and controlled certain Western media (such as Fox News where he and Murdoch have had a long standing 'friendship') through election interference and other nefarious means. This has been well documented by international Intelligence organizations, and whistleblowers from past organizations such as Cambridge Analytica.
I understand your comments about those middle east countries, but in most cases that was a different administration with different agendas.
But what do we do about Putin's ever-mounting control over democratic countries? Doesn't this remind you of the rise of the 1930s dictators? Didn't we learn from history that they should have been stopped well before world war started?
What you are saying may sound like fair and even rhetoric (repeated many times from elsewhere) - but all of our democratic freedoms are at stake. Yours included.
And its not just the EU or USA - it was here too. Its worldwide. Doesn't that scare the bejeebies out of you?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/russia-foreign-interference-australian-election/100819910 (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-10/russia-foreign-interference-australian-election/100819910)QuoteRussia has been identified as one of the main countries attempting to interfere in Australia's democracy, with intelligence agencies monitoring continuing efforts by Moscow to influence politics here.
A current intelligence source and a government source have confirmed the country's domestic spy agency, ASIO, has recently investigated at least one major effort to back pro-Russian figures for an unspecified Australian political contest.
Most details of the conspiracy remain hidden, but the ABC has confirmed it involved an individual based in Australia with close links to President Vladmir Putin's regime.
... "The point of difference between Russia and China is that Russia is an opportunistic interferer in elections anywhere in the Western world but, particularly, focusing on Five-Eyes [an intelligence-sharing network that includes Australia] and EU destabilisation".
Don't stop (or 'destroy' as you said) Russia - stop Putin and his propaganda machine.
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I really can't believe that Brexit was caused by the russians,
You can also argue that if the Western world did not participate in the coup in 2014 in Ukraine and Nato stayed with it's promise not to get closer to Russian's border all of this would not have taken place.
This is BS.
NATO is not expanding. NATO is joined.
NATO didn't expand in Finland last month. Finland decided to join the alliance.
There was never a promise, let alone a treaty denying the right of any other sovereign country, be it from east or west, to join NATO. There is no such thing.
Your are falling hard for the russian propaganda, mouthing Putin's words.
Moreover, you are deliberately confusing a popular uprising with a coup d'etat, falling, again, for the same russian propaganda.
Remind them that their are proud of their 1918 bolshevik revolution, not of their 1918 coup d'etat. ;)
Agreements were made but not on paper. But certainly recognized by all parties. I am not falling for anything,
You can also argue that if the Western world did not participate in the coup in 2014 in Ukraine and Nato stayed with it's promise not to get closer to Russian's border all of this would not have taken place.
This is BS.
NATO is not expanding. NATO is joined.
NATO didn't expand in Finland last month. Finland decided to join the alliance.
There was never a promise, let alone a treaty denying the right of any other sovereign country, be it from east or west, to join NATO. There is no such thing.
Your are falling hard for the russian propaganda, mouthing Putin's words.
You can also argue that if the Western world did not participate in the coup in 2014 in Ukraine and Nato stayed with it's promise not to get closer to Russian's border all of this would not have taken place.
This is BS.
NATO is not expanding. NATO is joined.
NATO didn't expand in Finland last month. Finland decided to join the alliance.
There was never a promise, let alone a treaty denying the right of any other sovereign country, be it from east or west, to join NATO. There is no such thing.
Your are falling hard for the russian propaganda, mouthing Putin's words.
Here we go again ;D
You are the only spreading the propaganda about this matter...because it was clearly promised multiple times
Once again , one of those times on February 9. 1990, memorandum transcript published by National Security Archive at George Washington University in Washington, DC. Secretary of State Baker reassured Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev “not once, but three times” NATO will not expand to the east.
I'll quote Baker: “not only for the Soviet Union but for other European countries as well it is important to have guarantees that if the United States keeps its presence in Germany within the framework of NATO, not an inch of NATO’s present military jurisdiction will spread in an eastern direction.”
The document itself, black on white:
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/16116-document-05-memorandum-conversation-between (https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/16116-document-05-memorandum-conversation-between)
I really don't understand Russians and Americans thinking that the rest of world is stupid not seeing the dominance games they are playing on cost on innocent people in the world.
You can also argue that if the Western world did not participate in the coup in 2014 in Ukraine and Nato stayed with it's promise not to get closer to Russian's border all of this would not have taken place. It's not that I take side of Russia but sure as hell the Western world is guilty here as well. Nobody cared when the Ukranian army was bombarding houses and people in the East of Ukraine because, hey, it was a pro-western government. Same as being lied to that the Western world have no part in this conflict while the leaked documents completely say the contrary. It goes way beyond sending weapons. All political play.Every word is a lie and a copy of Russian propaganda. Do not write more in this thread, I do not read Russian propaganda. This applies to all your subsequent posts.
But I guess if the western world wants to wage war against russia then the split in the world community (everybody is taking sides now) actually started when the Westen world continued to work their way up east, USA, EU and NATO. History will tell and I know a lot of people don't see it now but for me it's pretty clear.This is Russian propaganda, there are 99 percent lies here.
But good luck with destroying Russia. The world might be a better place without it, but I guess China is next and then maybe India until everybody lives as the USA and the EU dictates us how to live.
It worked also very well in Irak, Libia, Afghanistan and each country that the Western world had invaded and left in rubbles. They all had to be liberated and what paradises they have become :)
These are all oral conversations, the USSR is no longer on the world map for 30 years. The legal successor of the USSR are many states, incl. and Ukraine.You can also argue that if the Western world did not participate in the coup in 2014 in Ukraine and Nato stayed with it's promise not to get closer to Russian's border all of this would not have taken place.
This is BS.
NATO is not expanding. NATO is joined.
NATO didn't expand in Finland last month. Finland decided to join the alliance.
There was never a promise, let alone a treaty denying the right of any other sovereign country, be it from east or west, to join NATO. There is no such thing.
Your are falling hard for the russian propaganda, mouthing Putin's words.
Here we go again ;D
You are the only spreading the propaganda about this matter...because it was clearly promised multiple times
Once again , one of those times on February 9. 1990, memorandum transcript published by National Security Archive at George Washington University in Washington, DC. Secretary of State Baker reassured Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev “not once, but three times” NATO will not expand to the east.
I'll quote Baker: “not only for the Soviet Union but for other European countries as well it is important to have guarantees that if the United States keeps its presence in Germany within the framework of NATO, not an inch of NATO’s present military jurisdiction will spread in an eastern direction.”
The document itself, black on white:
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/16116-document-05-memorandum-conversation-between (https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/16116-document-05-memorandum-conversation-between)
I really don't understand Russians and Americans thinking that the rest of world is stupid not seeing the dominance games they are playing on cost on innocent people in the world.
And if you think a part of a country can liberate themselves by an uprise, as the west of Ukraine did, then I would imagine you will stand also with the basks and catalonian people in Spain, the Vlemish people in Belgium, the Northern Italians in Italy, the Irish, the Scottish people, people in Cyprus, and I guess there will also be certain groups of people that would like to distance themselves from the federal government in the USA. But somehow when it's not to your liking then that freedom's stride is not acknowledged or is it? That is called hypocrisy in my opinion.
But they have won and people in the east were left behind. They did not want to join the EU but that was not respected. In fact for ten years they were attacked, drove out of their houses ans stripped of all their rights. I did not hear you then. And if you think a part of a country can liberate themselves by an uprise, as the west of Ukraine did,This is the citation of false Russian propaganda.
Russia violated the Budapest non-aggression memorandum on Ukraine, which it signed itself and in which it was the guarantor of non-aggression. Any agreements with Russia are not even worth the paper on which they are written. Russia is a fascist and terrorist country. Everyone knows what to do with terrorists and what kind of conversation should be with them.
Lizard, if you cannot distinguish terrorism and fascism from democracy, then talking to you is pointless. You are quoting Russian propaganda.
You don't see that often such a blatant example of #whataboutism as the one Lizard is making.
What he is saying is that Bill can cheat at his exams, because John did also cheat.
"Whatabout John"?
Wrong.
This attitude is normalizing cheating and this is fundamentaly wrong.
Cheating is wrong.
Whataboutism is a logical fallacy.
You can't use whataboutism to give Putin a pass and normalize his terror, killings, rape and plunder.
Despite the controversial topic, this has actually been quite an interesting thread so far in an international exchange.
You don't see that often such a blatant example of #whataboutism as the one Lizard is making.
What he is saying is that Bill can cheat at his exams, because John did also cheat.
"Whatabout John"?
Wrong.
This attitude is normalizing cheating and this is fundamentaly wrong.
Cheating is wrong.
Whataboutism is a logical fallacy.
You can't use whataboutism to give Putin a pass and normalize his terror, killings, rape and plunder.
Which sentence I wrote is giving Putin pass to anything ? I can easilly quote myself calling Putin an id.iot and Russia an aggressor multiple times for doing what they are doing.
Now, can you quote yourself one single sentence calling John a terrorist ? Once, for multiple invasions.
Should we all just be focused on Bill and let John do its thing with his killings ?
Or its alright, because John is an democrat ? We can focus on Bills obviously aggressive history but John killing 56 MILLIONS of natives is whataboutism and shouldn't be mentioned?
Well in that case ill be whatabouting without regrets.
No, read what I said above.
Cheating is wrong.
Nobody gets a pass for cheating. Neither Bill nor John.
Now can we agree that what russia is doing to Ukraine is an unjustifiable abomination?
Terror, beheadings of pow, torture, killings, rape, plunder?
Yes, as I said. Nobody is getting a pass.
Rest assured that many Americans are openly opposing such decisions, and are actively fighting to prevent the repetition of such mistakes.
Way to often an anti-American sentiment is translated through whataboutism in a justification for russian attrocities.
I'm glad to see that we can agree on something.
🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦
Yes, as I said. Nobody is getting a pass.
Rest assured that many Americans openly oppose such decisions and are actively fighting to prevent repeating such mistakes.
Way too often an anti-American sentiment is translated through whataboutism in a justification for russian atrocities.
I'm glad to see that we can agree on something.
🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦
And most likely many Russians are opposing in any justification of this terror. There are just not enough of them and lion nations keep doing their job.
And the sad thing is that not human well-being but profit and mostly corporate profit is the main force behind genocides of any kind with puppet fools with their nationalism hiding behind patriotism dancing on that music.
Way too few russians are opposing the war, since the brainwashing state propaganda and the state control over media doesn't leave too many options for the truth to break through.
Way too few russians are opposing the war, since the brainwashing state propaganda and the state control over media doesn't leave too many options for the truth to break through.
As we speak Jack Teixeira was arrested for letting the truth break trough. Truth that slightly varies from "Jacks" propaganda.
So, not really, I don't see to much differences in state controls just the names and methods are a bit different but aiming the same thing, to smash anyone telling the truth that proves his country runs on lies and propaganda and punish him badly as example for others.
Honestly I never saw an article in any American relevant media calling the veterans terrorists and murderers when returning from "defending" the country from some invasion on a weaker nation on the other side of the globe based on false evidences blatantly thrown in the face of the rest of the civilized word to justify that . I just see thanking them from their service.
And if you see a different picture that's because you want to see the different picture. In the meanwhile you have a lot of interesting readings in comments sections of main European news sites to check what most of the 3. side people think about that in what we like to call the democratic western world.
"Former President Donald Trump was charged by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg with 34 felony counts for the falsification of business records "
One of those might be, who's going to be the Republican candidate in 2024? ;D
ps I practice equal opportunity, calling out politicians and hypocrites who follow party lines instead of minds.
How's Biden doing, within his own party?
Democrats were asked if they wanted another four years of Biden. 61% said they would prefer a new president; 38% said they'd welcome back Biden.
Kind of getting the feeling that no one likes anything anymore? Except being divided and hating the other side.
Sure it is, and there is no excuse for that. Torture, aggression, rape, genocide...What a lie, what a delusion. You are trying to attribute the guilt of the fascists and terrorism to democratic countries. And in this way you are trying to divert people's attention from the crimes of the Russians. You act according to the manuals of the KGB. Like, yes, we are bad, but everyone around is also bad and there is no justice anywhere.
Now, do we agree US did absolutely the same to multiple countries, cause it seems to me you are avoiding to say it up loud ?
Not cheating, lets call it invasion, aggression, terror, killing and genocide ?
And not only them but the rest of European and other worlds wannabe testosterone imperialists of multiple ...isms
🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦Glory to the heroes!
Today, the last 3 nuclear power plants in Germany were shut down.
Today, the last 3 nuclear power plants in Germany were shut down.If Germany knows that there will be hostilities in the EU, then of course it is better not to have a nuclear power plant on its territory at all.
Today, the last 3 nuclear power plants in Germany were shut down.
In Finland, the biggest nuclear reactor in Europe just opened. ;)
https://www.reuters.com/article/finland-nuclearpower/after-18-years-europes-largest-nuclear-reactor-to-start-regular-output-on-sunday-idUSL8N36I06P (https://www.reuters.com/article/finland-nuclearpower/after-18-years-europes-largest-nuclear-reactor-to-start-regular-output-on-sunday-idUSL8N36I06P)
Today, the last 3 nuclear power plants in Germany were shut down.If Germany knows that there will be hostilities in the EU, then of course it is better not to have a nuclear power plant on its territory at all.
No matter how it all ends with the fact that Germany will again begin to buy energy from Russia.
Not certainly in that way. The sanctions have driven Russian energy prices below market levels. China and India at very low prices buy anything from Russia. And the sanctions also apply to logistics. Now the Russian economy is in decline, if you do not read the Russian "press" of course.Today, the last 3 nuclear power plants in Germany were shut down.If Germany knows that there will be hostilities in the EU, then of course it is better not to have a nuclear power plant on its territory at all.
No matter how it all ends with the fact that Germany will again begin to buy energy from Russia.
By the way, the Russian economy is growing - despite the EU sanctions. Coal exports to India have quadrupled. Oil exports to China, India and Turkey have increased very strongly. Furthermore, Turkey is planning a large transhipment point for Russian gas.
I believe that the sales markets China and India are many times more attractive for Russia than Germany (or the EU). Perhaps this is also the reason why there is no criticism of the Russian invasion of Ukraine from China and India.
"(Eastern) Europe is even more dependent on Russian fuelI am sure that these are all the results of Merkel work.
Today, the last 3 nuclear power plants in Germany were shut down.
In Finland, the biggest nuclear reactor in Europe just opened. ;)
https://www.reuters.com/article/finland-nuclearpower/after-18-years-europes-largest-nuclear-reactor-to-start-regular-output-on-sunday-idUSL8N36I06P (https://www.reuters.com/article/finland-nuclearpower/after-18-years-europes-largest-nuclear-reactor-to-start-regular-output-on-sunday-idUSL8N36I06P)
Yes, I know.
From a report on Olkiluoto 3 on ntv:
"The bigger catch in the current energy crisis, however, is another: contrary to appearances, nuclear energy does not make people quite as independent and free as some might wish. The Finns are aware of this, too. This year, they stopped the construction of another nuclear power plant with the participation of the Russian energy company Rosatom. The reason: a significant portion of the uranium for Finland's nuclear reactors comes from Russia, the country that attacked Ukraine and triggered the energy crisis in the first place.
Dependence on Russian electricity is one thing, but dependence on Russian uranium is another. Last year, Russia supplied about one-fifth of the uranium for nuclear power plants across Europe. Uranium is not on the EU sanctions list. The situation is no better in the USA: 99 percent of the uranium for 95 nuclear power plants is imported - mainly from Russia, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. Finland wants to become more independent with nuclear power? It's not quite that simple."
Today, the last 3 nuclear power plants in Germany were shut down.
In Finland, the biggest nuclear reactor in Europe just opened. ;)
https://www.reuters.com/article/finland-nuclearpower/after-18-years-europes-largest-nuclear-reactor-to-start-regular-output-on-sunday-idUSL8N36I06P (https://www.reuters.com/article/finland-nuclearpower/after-18-years-europes-largest-nuclear-reactor-to-start-regular-output-on-sunday-idUSL8N36I06P)
Yes, I know.
From a report on Olkiluoto 3 on ntv:
"The bigger catch in the current energy crisis, however, is another: contrary to appearances, nuclear energy does not make people quite as independent and free as some might wish. The Finns are aware of this, too. This year, they stopped the construction of another nuclear power plant with the participation of the Russian energy company Rosatom. The reason: a significant portion of the uranium for Finland's nuclear reactors comes from Russia, the country that attacked Ukraine and triggered the energy crisis in the first place.
Dependence on Russian electricity is one thing, but dependence on Russian uranium is another. Last year, Russia supplied about one-fifth of the uranium for nuclear power plants across Europe. Uranium is not on the EU sanctions list. The situation is no better in the USA: 99 percent of the uranium for 95 nuclear power plants is imported - mainly from Russia, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. Finland wants to become more independent with nuclear power? It's not quite that simple."
Australia has about 30% of the world's uranium. Buy more from us! ;)
https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/mining-of-uranium/world-uranium-mining-production.aspx (https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/mining-of-uranium/world-uranium-mining-production.aspx)
Actually, I cringe that I even wrote that (even in jest). When I was in my 20s, I used to protest against uranium mining in Australia. (of course, we have coal as well *sigh*)
In my heart of hearts, I've always been against stripping our world of its natural resources. What happened with wind and solar power? A few years ago, I thought Germany was a European leader in renewable energy. Or am I wrong, Wilm?
Rare earths, for example, are hardly available in Europe.“Ukraine has significant reserves of non-ferrous and rare earth metals, including unique deposits of beryllium, zirconium, tantalum, as well as a complex of phosphorus rare earth and rare metal ores,” reports MiningWorld. “The confirmed reserves of lithium in Ukraine are the largest in Europe. The country also has a real opportunity to enter the world market with pure and ultra-pure metals such as gallium, indium, thallium, lead and tin… Ukraine needs to use its mineral resources to prosper. This requires new technologies and large investments.”
Germany being a global leader in the transition to renewable energy is two-faced and it has some very important nuances.Today, the last 3 nuclear power plants in Germany were shut down.
In Finland, the biggest nuclear reactor in Europe just opened. ;)
https://www.reuters.com/article/finland-nuclearpower/after-18-years-europes-largest-nuclear-reactor-to-start-regular-output-on-sunday-idUSL8N36I06P (https://www.reuters.com/article/finland-nuclearpower/after-18-years-europes-largest-nuclear-reactor-to-start-regular-output-on-sunday-idUSL8N36I06P)
Yes, I know.
From a report on Olkiluoto 3 on ntv:
"The bigger catch in the current energy crisis, however, is another: contrary to appearances, nuclear energy does not make people quite as independent and free as some might wish. The Finns are aware of this, too. This year, they stopped the construction of another nuclear power plant with the participation of the Russian energy company Rosatom. The reason: a significant portion of the uranium for Finland's nuclear reactors comes from Russia, the country that attacked Ukraine and triggered the energy crisis in the first place.
Dependence on Russian electricity is one thing, but dependence on Russian uranium is another. Last year, Russia supplied about one-fifth of the uranium for nuclear power plants across Europe. Uranium is not on the EU sanctions list. The situation is no better in the USA: 99 percent of the uranium for 95 nuclear power plants is imported - mainly from Russia, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. Finland wants to become more independent with nuclear power? It's not quite that simple."
Australia has about 30% of the world's uranium. Buy more from us! ;)
https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/mining-of-uranium/world-uranium-mining-production.aspx (https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/mining-of-uranium/world-uranium-mining-production.aspx)
Actually, I cringe that I even wrote that (even in jest). When I was in my 20s, I used to protest against uranium mining in Australia. (of course, we have coal as well *sigh*)
In my heart of hearts, I've always been against stripping our world of its natural resources. What happened with wind and solar power? A few years ago, I thought Germany was a European leader in renewable energy. Or am I wrong, Wilm?
As far as Europe is concerned, that is correct, Annie. In a global comparison, Germany is in third place, behind the USA in second place and China in first place.
That refers to the amount of energy in TWh that is generated from renewable energy sources in these countries.
If you were to convert that to the amount generated and consumed per capita, the Scandinavians in particular would be way out in front.
In terms of our electricity consumption, 51.5% in Germany is now generated from renewables. However, the share accounted for by lignite and hard coal is still very high at 30.5% in the first quarter of 2023.
But that's just the topic of electricity. Electricity accounts for only 20% of our total German energy requirements. Energy demand for mobility, industry and much more changes the balance extremely.
Here, oil (33%) and gas (27%) are the main energy sources. In order to create more independence here, an extremely large amount of change must still take place. There is still a very long way to go.
Electromobility is being boosted, but other countries are much further ahead. In Norway, 65% of cars sold are currently electric. What's more, 98% of the electricity for electromobility in Norway is generated from renewable energy. These are values that we are very, very far away from here.
But electromobility also brings with it dependency problems. Rare earths, for example, are hardly available in Europe. Large deposits have been found in Sweden, but in general, Europeans are extremely dependent on imports. It's a vicious circle.
What a lie, what a delusion. You are trying to attribute the guilt of the fascists and terrorism to democratic countries. And in this way you are trying to divert people's attention from the crimes of the Russians. You act according to the manuals of the KGB. Like, yes, we are bad, but everyone around is also bad and there is no justice anywhere.
The US and EU countries do not engage in genocide and murder. The US Army, if it fights, then only with the enemy army, while observing all the Geneva Conventions. The same Saddam Hussein was a tyrant.
Electromobility is being boosted, but other countries are much further ahead. In Norway, 65% of cars sold are currently electric. What's more, 98% of the electricity for electromobility in Norway is generated from renewable energy. These are values that we are very, very far away from here.
Germany being a global leader in the transition to renewable energy is two-faced and it has some very important nuances.Today, the last 3 nuclear power plants in Germany were shut down.
In Finland, the biggest nuclear reactor in Europe just opened. ;)
https://www.reuters.com/article/finland-nuclearpower/after-18-years-europes-largest-nuclear-reactor-to-start-regular-output-on-sunday-idUSL8N36I06P (https://www.reuters.com/article/finland-nuclearpower/after-18-years-europes-largest-nuclear-reactor-to-start-regular-output-on-sunday-idUSL8N36I06P)
Yes, I know.
From a report on Olkiluoto 3 on ntv:
"The bigger catch in the current energy crisis, however, is another: contrary to appearances, nuclear energy does not make people quite as independent and free as some might wish. The Finns are aware of this, too. This year, they stopped the construction of another nuclear power plant with the participation of the Russian energy company Rosatom. The reason: a significant portion of the uranium for Finland's nuclear reactors comes from Russia, the country that attacked Ukraine and triggered the energy crisis in the first place.
Dependence on Russian electricity is one thing, but dependence on Russian uranium is another. Last year, Russia supplied about one-fifth of the uranium for nuclear power plants across Europe. Uranium is not on the EU sanctions list. The situation is no better in the USA: 99 percent of the uranium for 95 nuclear power plants is imported - mainly from Russia, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. Finland wants to become more independent with nuclear power? It's not quite that simple."
Australia has about 30% of the world's uranium. Buy more from us! ;)
https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/mining-of-uranium/world-uranium-mining-production.aspx (https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/mining-of-uranium/world-uranium-mining-production.aspx)
Actually, I cringe that I even wrote that (even in jest). When I was in my 20s, I used to protest against uranium mining in Australia. (of course, we have coal as well *sigh*)
In my heart of hearts, I've always been against stripping our world of its natural resources. What happened with wind and solar power? A few years ago, I thought Germany was a European leader in renewable energy. Or am I wrong, Wilm?
As far as Europe is concerned, that is correct, Annie. In a global comparison, Germany is in third place, behind the USA in second place and China in first place.
That refers to the amount of energy in TWh that is generated from renewable energy sources in these countries.
If you were to convert that to the amount generated and consumed per capita, the Scandinavians in particular would be way out in front.
In terms of our electricity consumption, 51.5% in Germany is now generated from renewables. However, the share accounted for by lignite and hard coal is still very high at 30.5% in the first quarter of 2023.
But that's just the topic of electricity. Electricity accounts for only 20% of our total German energy requirements. Energy demand for mobility, industry and much more changes the balance extremely.
Here, oil (33%) and gas (27%) are the main energy sources. In order to create more independence here, an extremely large amount of change must still take place. There is still a very long way to go.
Electromobility is being boosted, but other countries are much further ahead. In Norway, 65% of cars sold are currently electric. What's more, 98% of the electricity for electromobility in Norway is generated from renewable energy. These are values that we are very, very far away from here.
But electromobility also brings with it dependency problems. Rare earths, for example, are hardly available in Europe. Large deposits have been found in Sweden, but in general, Europeans are extremely dependent on imports. It's a vicious circle.
First of all, the capacity of wind and solar they built up the last decade or so is remarkable, and an example to follow. I applaud that.
On the flipside, you see Germany still lagging behind significantly in bringing down carbon emissions of their electricity generation infrastructure. Despite the huge infrastructure on renewable energy, Germany's average carbon emissions of electricity generation infrastructure still looks bad and they really struggle with bringing it down. And the reason for that is very simple: coal burning. And sorry to say, also shutting down nuclear power plants, which have a very low carbon emission level.
You can easily check the carbon emissions caused by electricity generation here: https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE (https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE)
Now, I'm not in favor of nuclear energy either, and all you said about it is true Wilm. But, I think the bigger picture is way more nuanced. When a country lacks the geological conditions to severely invest in hydro plants, like the Nordics for instance can do, or you don't have the possibility to explore geothermal energy, like Iceland can do, nuclear is the only non-fossil option for having a rather stable and trustworthy baseline of low carbon energy. Because, let's be fair, solar and wind are unreliable and building storage capacity that will get you through days or weeks of grey and windless weather is realistically not feasible.
Again, not in favor of nuclear, and certainly not in favor of building new nuclear power plants, but these are facts that can not be ignored.
Another fact that can not be ignored is that burning fossil fuels caused way more deaths than nuclear accidents so far. I'm fully aware that accidents in Fukushima and Chernobyl had a dramatic impact on the people living anywhere "near" of those disaster zones and the reported deaths are probably underestimated, but the impact of burning fossils is a totally different scale, both for humans as for nature. Mining accidents, drilling accidents, oil spills, gas leaks, wars fought because of oil, and fine dust particles that come with burning fossils as cherry on the cake. Disasters every now and then, deaths by fine dust particles on a daily basis.
See: https://www.statista.com/statistics/494425/death-rate-worldwide-by-energy-source/ (https://www.statista.com/statistics/494425/death-rate-worldwide-by-energy-source/)
We can discuss numbers and studies, and I'm anything but an authority on the matter, but the bigger picture is what it is I'm afraid. Burning fossils, and certainly coal, has a devastating impact on all of us. And this is exactly what Germany keeps on doing, at a very large scale, and they will continue for another decade if I'm not mistaken?
The concerns regarding nuclear energy are 100% justified, but the way I look at now it is that bringing down our global carbon emissions became such a priority nowadays that not considering nuclear power as a necessary evil option to do so would be a mistake. In the end, we will need that solution for nuclear waste anyhow, and I know that sounds like a weak excuse (we don't need to put more crap in a shithole knowing we will have to clean it up someday) but the alternative is keep on burning coal and natural gas. Resources that already have a devastating impact, and are putting an end to the world as we know it.
Electromobility is being boosted, but other countries are much further ahead. In Norway, 65% of cars sold are currently electric. What's more, 98% of the electricity for electromobility in Norway is generated from renewable energy. These are values that we are very, very far away from here.
That sounds really nice. Hearing it like this it seams that they are doing a great thing for the environment.
Please, lets define things a bit
On the other hand 50% of Norwegian export product is...you got it right OIL. So in numbers a country that contributes worlds population at 0.06% is producing 3.53% of the oil production in the world worth around 22 billion $ yearly.
They are probably decreasing that in time right since all that renewable energy being forward thing and advanced awareness ?
Well lets check it out...
(https://i.ibb.co/cX3MdBQ/norway-oil-exports-3x.png)
Source: https://tradingeconomics.com/norway/oil-exports (https://tradingeconomics.com/norway/oil-exports)
And than their government can nicely use that income to exclude people from VAT obligations when buying electric cars, offer them free or significantly cheaper parking and other benefits and pump the numbers , and there you have it... an idyllic environment friendly mini society so far ahead as an example to the rest of the world to follow.
If we don't mention that Norway is contributing per inhabitant to the worlds oil consumption outside of their borders more than any other nation in the world behind Kuwait ( and not far behind at all )
This example should be in worlds dictionaries describing Hypocrisy at its finest.
You started twisting the facts. Non-ratification of the court does not mean that the country has committed crimes. There are reasonable explanations for everything, and at one time I read them.
What a lie, what a delusion. You are trying to attribute the guilt of the fascists and terrorism to democratic countries. And in this way you are trying to divert people's attention from the crimes of the Russians. You act according to the manuals of the KGB. Like, yes, we are bad, but everyone around is also bad and there is no justice anywhere.
The US and EU countries do not engage in genocide and murder. The US Army, if it fights, then only with the enemy army, while observing all the Geneva Conventions. The same Saddam Hussein was a tyrant.
LOL, US is doing anything to avoid international democracy and let the international courts decide who was involved in genocide and who was not.
On 17 July 1998, the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court was adopted by a vote of 120 to seven, with 21 countries abstaining. The seven countries that voted against the treaty were China, Iraq, Israel, Libya, Qatar, the U.S., and Yemen. ;)
BTW...
387,072 civilians have died violent deaths as a direct result of the U.S. post-9/11 wars.
One example of respecting the Geneva Conventions, On 3 October 2015, US airstrikes destroyed hospital in operated solely by Doctors Without Borders, Kunduz killing 42 people.
Should I start posting leaked Abu Ghraib torturing photos so you can explain me how those relate to Geneva Conventions ?
We can discuss numbers and studies, and I'm anything but an authority on the matter, but the bigger picture is what it is I'm afraid. Burning fossils, and certainly coal, has a devastating impact on all of us. And this is exactly what Germany keeps on doing, at a very large scale, and they will continue for another decade if I'm not mistaken?+100
The concerns regarding nuclear energy are 100% justified, but the way I look at now it is that bringing down our global carbon emissions became such a priority nowadays that not considering nuclear power as a necessary evil option to do so would be a mistake. In the end, we will need that solution for nuclear waste anyhow, and I know that sounds like a weak excuse (we don't need to put more crap in a shithole knowing we will have to clean it up someday) but the alternative is keep on burning coal and natural gas. Resources that already have a devastating impact, and are putting an end to the world as we know it.
Germany being a global leader in the transition to renewable energy is two-faced and it has some very important nuances.Today, the last 3 nuclear power plants in Germany were shut down.
In Finland, the biggest nuclear reactor in Europe just opened. ;)
https://www.reuters.com/article/finland-nuclearpower/after-18-years-europes-largest-nuclear-reactor-to-start-regular-output-on-sunday-idUSL8N36I06P (https://www.reuters.com/article/finland-nuclearpower/after-18-years-europes-largest-nuclear-reactor-to-start-regular-output-on-sunday-idUSL8N36I06P)
Yes, I know.
From a report on Olkiluoto 3 on ntv:
"The bigger catch in the current energy crisis, however, is another: contrary to appearances, nuclear energy does not make people quite as independent and free as some might wish. The Finns are aware of this, too. This year, they stopped the construction of another nuclear power plant with the participation of the Russian energy company Rosatom. The reason: a significant portion of the uranium for Finland's nuclear reactors comes from Russia, the country that attacked Ukraine and triggered the energy crisis in the first place.
Dependence on Russian electricity is one thing, but dependence on Russian uranium is another. Last year, Russia supplied about one-fifth of the uranium for nuclear power plants across Europe. Uranium is not on the EU sanctions list. The situation is no better in the USA: 99 percent of the uranium for 95 nuclear power plants is imported - mainly from Russia, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. Finland wants to become more independent with nuclear power? It's not quite that simple."
Australia has about 30% of the world's uranium. Buy more from us! ;)
https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/mining-of-uranium/world-uranium-mining-production.aspx (https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/mining-of-uranium/world-uranium-mining-production.aspx)
Actually, I cringe that I even wrote that (even in jest). When I was in my 20s, I used to protest against uranium mining in Australia. (of course, we have coal as well *sigh*)
In my heart of hearts, I've always been against stripping our world of its natural resources. What happened with wind and solar power? A few years ago, I thought Germany was a European leader in renewable energy. Or am I wrong, Wilm?
As far as Europe is concerned, that is correct, Annie. In a global comparison, Germany is in third place, behind the USA in second place and China in first place.
That refers to the amount of energy in TWh that is generated from renewable energy sources in these countries.
If you were to convert that to the amount generated and consumed per capita, the Scandinavians in particular would be way out in front.
In terms of our electricity consumption, 51.5% in Germany is now generated from renewables. However, the share accounted for by lignite and hard coal is still very high at 30.5% in the first quarter of 2023.
But that's just the topic of electricity. Electricity accounts for only 20% of our total German energy requirements. Energy demand for mobility, industry and much more changes the balance extremely.
Here, oil (33%) and gas (27%) are the main energy sources. In order to create more independence here, an extremely large amount of change must still take place. There is still a very long way to go.
Electromobility is being boosted, but other countries are much further ahead. In Norway, 65% of cars sold are currently electric. What's more, 98% of the electricity for electromobility in Norway is generated from renewable energy. These are values that we are very, very far away from here.
But electromobility also brings with it dependency problems. Rare earths, for example, are hardly available in Europe. Large deposits have been found in Sweden, but in general, Europeans are extremely dependent on imports. It's a vicious circle.
First of all, the capacity of wind and solar they built up the last decade or so is remarkable, and an example to follow. I applaud that.
On the flipside, you see Germany still lagging behind significantly in bringing down carbon emissions of their electricity generation infrastructure. Despite the huge infrastructure on renewable energy, Germany's average carbon emissions of electricity generation infrastructure still looks bad and they really struggle with bringing it down. And the reason for that is very simple: coal burning. And sorry to say, also shutting down nuclear power plants, which have a very low carbon emission level.
You can easily check the carbon emissions caused by electricity generation here: https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE (https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE)
Now, I'm not in favor of nuclear energy either, and all you said about it is true Wilm. But, I think the bigger picture is way more nuanced. When a country lacks the geological conditions to severely invest in hydro plants, like the Nordics for instance can do, or you don't have the possibility to explore geothermal energy, like Iceland can do, nuclear is the only non-fossil option for having a rather stable and trustworthy baseline of low carbon energy. Because, let's be fair, solar and wind are unreliable and building storage capacity that will get you through days or weeks of grey and windless weather is realistically not feasible.
Again, not in favor of nuclear, and certainly not in favor of building new nuclear power plants, but these are facts that can not be ignored.
Another fact that can not be ignored is that burning fossil fuels caused way more deaths than nuclear accidents so far. I'm fully aware that accidents in Fukushima and Chernobyl had a dramatic impact on the people living anywhere "near" of those disaster zones and the reported deaths are probably underestimated, but the impact of burning fossils is a totally different scale, both for humans as for nature. Mining accidents, drilling accidents, oil spills, gas leaks, wars fought because of oil, and fine dust particles that come with burning fossils as cherry on the cake. Disasters every now and then, deaths by fine dust particles on a daily basis.
See: https://www.statista.com/statistics/494425/death-rate-worldwide-by-energy-source/ (https://www.statista.com/statistics/494425/death-rate-worldwide-by-energy-source/)
We can discuss numbers and studies, and I'm anything but an authority on the matter, but the bigger picture is what it is I'm afraid. Burning fossils, and certainly coal, has a devastating impact on all of us. And this is exactly what Germany keeps on doing, at a very large scale, and they will continue for another decade if I'm not mistaken?
The concerns regarding nuclear energy are 100% justified, but the way I look at now it is that bringing down our global carbon emissions became such a priority nowadays that not considering nuclear power as a necessary evil option to do so would be a mistake. In the end, we will need that solution for nuclear waste anyhow, and I know that sounds like a weak excuse (we don't need to put more crap in a shithole knowing we will have to clean it up someday) but the alternative is keep on burning coal and natural gas. Resources that already have a devastating impact, and are putting an end to the world as we know it.
Thank you for your factual contribution, Roscoe.
I am absolutely aware that the nuclear phase-out also has negative sides.
Germany, as the largest industrial nation, also has the highest CO2 emissions per capita in the EU. Of these CO2 emissions, by far the largest share is due to the burning of oil and gas. Even the continued operation of nuclear power plants would not change this much.
If you now pick a few countries and look at how high the share of nuclear power in the total electricity generation in the country was in 2021, you can see, for example, that this was 28% in South Korea, 20% in Russia, 19.6% in the USA and 14.8% in Canada.
In these 4 countries, CO2 emissions per capita are nevertheless significantly higher than in Germany, where the share of nuclear power was only 11.9%.
Of course, the burning of coal in Germany remains without doubt a major problem. And we would burn less coal if we continued to operate nuclear power plants - no question about that either. Above all, we need to consume less energy and drive the expansion of renewable energies much more strongly and quickly.
Electromobility is being boosted, but other countries are much further ahead. In Norway, 65% of cars sold are currently electric. What's more, 98% of the electricity for electromobility in Norway is generated from renewable energy. These are values that we are very, very far away from here.
That sounds really nice. Hearing it like this it seams that they are doing a great thing for the environment.
Please, lets define things a bit
On the other hand 50% of Norwegian export product is...you got it right OIL. So in numbers a country that contributes worlds population at 0.06% is producing 3.53% of the oil production in the world worth around 22 billion $ yearly.
They are probably decreasing that in time right since all that renewable energy being forward thing and advanced awareness ?
Well lets check it out...
(https://i.ibb.co/cX3MdBQ/norway-oil-exports-3x.png)
Source: https://tradingeconomics.com/norway/oil-exports (https://tradingeconomics.com/norway/oil-exports)
And than their government can nicely use that income to exclude people from VAT obligations when buying electric cars, offer them free or significantly cheaper parking and other benefits and pump the numbers , and there you have it... an idyllic environment friendly mini society so far ahead as an example to the rest of the world to follow.
If we don't mention that Norway is contributing per inhabitant to the worlds oil consumption outside of their borders more than any other nation in the world behind Kuwait ( and not far behind at all )
This example should be in worlds dictionaries describing Hypocrisy at its finest.
What is a not so hypocritical solution from your point of view? Should Norway stop exporting oil so that Russia (1.8% of the world's population, 12.7% of the world's oil) can sell more oil?
You started twisting the facts. Non-ratification of the court does not mean that the country has committed crimes. There are reasonable explanations for everything, and at one time I read them.
At the expense of destroyed hospitals, killed people, torture, you have no evidence, all this is 90-99 percent propaganda.
Recently, you used Russian propaganda here, wrote that the APU was shooting at the homes of civilians, but this is a lie that the Russians threw in. The Russians themselves kill people, and then immediately blame the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Therefore, stop writing in this topic, there is 0 trust in your texts.
Electromobility is being boosted, but other countries are much further ahead. In Norway, 65% of cars sold are currently electric. What's more, 98% of the electricity for electromobility in Norway is generated from renewable energy. These are values that we are very, very far away from here.
That sounds really nice. Hearing it like this it seams that they are doing a great thing for the environment.
Please, lets define things a bit
On the other hand 50% of Norwegian export product is...you got it right OIL. So in numbers a country that contributes worlds population at 0.06% is producing 3.53% of the oil production in the world worth around 22 billion $ yearly.
They are probably decreasing that in time right since all that renewable energy being forward thing and advanced awareness ?
Well lets check it out...
(https://i.ibb.co/cX3MdBQ/norway-oil-exports-3x.png)
Source: https://tradingeconomics.com/norway/oil-exports (https://tradingeconomics.com/norway/oil-exports)
And than their government can nicely use that income to exclude people from VAT obligations when buying electric cars, offer them free or significantly cheaper parking and other benefits and pump the numbers , and there you have it... an idyllic environment friendly mini society so far ahead as an example to the rest of the world to follow.
If we don't mention that Norway is contributing per inhabitant to the worlds oil consumption outside of their borders more than any other nation in the world behind Kuwait ( and not far behind at all )
This example should be in worlds dictionaries describing Hypocrisy at its finest.
What is a not so hypocritical solution from your point of view? Should Norway stop exporting oil so that Russia (1.8% of the world's population, 12.7% of the world's oil) can sell more oil?
When you are out of arguments just throw Russia in.
The topic was Norway being so further away on renewable energy. The solution is they can as well continue using their oil in their car cause they oil is going to be used anyway around the world.
Yes, this is indeed a great solution. Everyone just keeps doing what they've been doing for the past 150 years. Great!
What country are you a citizen of? Such thoughts about the United States will lead to the fact that Russia will occupy the whole of Europe, and the United States will not be able to help, because. they were kicked out of Europe by people like you. And China is taking over the rest of the world. If you want to live under Russian or Chinese occupation, my advice to you is: suitcase - railway station - Russia (China).
You started twisting the facts. Non-ratification of the court does not mean that the country has committed crimes. There are reasonable explanations for everything, and at one time I read them.
At the expense of destroyed hospitals, killed people, torture, you have no evidence, all this is 90-99 percent propaganda.
Recently, you used Russian propaganda here, wrote that the APU was shooting at the homes of civilians, but this is a lie that the Russians threw in. The Russians themselves kill people, and then immediately blame the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Therefore, stop writing in this topic, there is 0 trust in your texts.
LOL ;D
The only one twisting the facts are you with denying the facts and spreading your little propaganda with closing eyes in fron of your war crimes and pointing fingers only at others while you are basically the same.
Once again, Russia is a country spreading terror in their path of word dominance and so is US and they should both be put on ignore by the rest of the world until they change their aggressive policies and accept the authority of international courts like the rest of democratic world.
Sure, you are probably the on who is gonna decide who writes what and what the truth is. ;)
What country are you a citizen of? Such thoughts about the United States will lead to the fact that Russia will occupy the whole of Europe, and the United States will not be able to help, because. they were kicked out of Europe by people like you. And China is taking over the rest of the world. If you want to live under Russian or Chinese occupation, my advice to you is: suitcase - railway station - Russia (China).
And give proof to any of your accusations against the United States.
As we speak Norwegian Statoilom is forcing to research OIL sources in Adriatic
As we speak Norwegian Statoilom is forcing to research OIL sources in Adriatic
The opposite happens in the Black Sea, where OMV is doing it's best to block the exploitation of the massive gas reserves dicovered there.
No surprises, since OMV is an Austrian company and Austria (like Hungary) looks more and more like the former GDR being heavily influenced by Russia (see the former Autrian ministry of foreign affairs kneeling in front of Putin, a few pages above).
OMV has no plans to invest in those gas reserves. They were happy to get the Black Sea license and to sit on it, instead of competing with Russia.
Remember that one of the most important reason why Russia seized Crimea and wishes to landlock Ukraine away from the Black Sea, are the same gas reserves, which could make Ukraine the second largest gas producer in Europe, competing with Russia.
So, if more gas can be extracted from the Adriatic, by a Norwegian company or anyone else except Gazprom, then this is a good thing!
And if corrupted politicians are rightfully trialed, then this is a good thing again.
As we speak Norwegian Statoilom is forcing to research OIL sources in Adriatic
The opposite happens in the Black Sea, where OMV is doing it's best to block the exploitation of the massive gas reserves dicovered there.
No surprises, since OMV is an Austrian company and Austria (like Hungary) looks more and more like the former GDR being heavily influenced by Russia (see the former Autrian ministry of foreign affairs kneeling in front of Putin, a few pages above).
OMV has no plans to invest in those gas reserves. They were happy to get the Black Sea license and to sit on it, instead of competing with Russia.
Remember that one of the most important reason why Russia seized Crimea and wishes to landlock Ukraine away from the Black Sea, are the same gas reserves, which could make Ukraine the second largest gas producer in Europe, competing with Russia.
So, if more gas can be extracted from the Adriatic, by a Norwegian company or anyone else except Gazprom, then this is a good thing!
And if corrupted politicians are rightfully trialed, then this is a good thing again.
No its not a good thing and the contracts they signed remain active so people they they cheated have no rights at all except the fact that one corrupted idiot is behind the bars. And they will find another one for their next deal.
And its not gas its oil, on shores of a country which main and almost only product is tourism and a single accident can destroy that forever.
For sure I will go to buy an electric car to protect the planet while the one that imposes that campaign aggressively is digging oil in my back yard exploiting billions while my country and the people have minimal benefits from that and admire how those corporations countries have gone far in front of us in renewable energy financed from OIL exploitation.
And I should even be ashamed to say that out loud.
Yep, as I said before, russian trolls are faking climate change or similar "concerns", instigating their audience to ask for fracking to be banned, for nuclear energy to be banned, for off-shore drilling to be banned, for coal to be banned, etc. And using marxist arguments while at it, since this is ingrained in their brains by so many years of communist propaganda.
All of this to maintain a dependency on Russian fossil fuels for as long as possible.
Wow, that sure went sideways from a good discussion. When someone brings up a military and Indian conflict, on a personal level, a single event in 1890, which was not the position of the US Government, and for all historical accounts, not the intention of the eventual outcome, but a mistaken action that turned into a tragic ending. Or shows guards, that were in violation of direct orders and the rules of the country they served. (and they were punished for their actions, not rewarded)
Someone come back to governments and wars, of today? Or at least the last 10-20 years? Where it's a leaders position and the position of the government of a country?
Wow, that sure went sideways from a good discussion. When someone brings up a military and Indian conflict, on a personal level, a single event in 1890, which was not the position of the US Government, and for all historical accounts, not the intention of the eventual outcome, but a mistaken action that turned into a tragic ending. Or shows guards, that were in violation of direct orders and the rules of the country they served. (and they were punished for their actions, not rewarded)
Someone come back to governments and wars, of today? Or at least the last 10-20 years? Where it's a leaders position and the position of the government of a country?
Go green while we sell OIL is a stupidity beyond reasons.
I personally believe that electromobility will also solve other problems. The development of rechargeable batteries will be massively driven forward by electromobility. Perhaps engineers and developers will succeed in building batteries that will eventually no longer need rare earths and whose capacity, charging speed and durability will continue to improve. The knowledge gained from this can help us with our biggest current problem of grid fluctuation and energy security - storing electricity.
Yes, this is indeed a great solution. Everyone just keeps doing what they've been doing for the past 150 years. Great!
No, we should all exploit and sell oil in billions and show off how we are supporting renewable energy, that's gonna help a lot. And ban cows cause their farts are destroying us.
#whataboutism is the russian troll's modus operandi, Pete.
Instead of condemning what happens TODAY, they justify the attrocities happening TODAY, under their eyes, by constantly diverting and spinning towards: "yeah, but what about... usually something about American errors, most of them if not all, already heavily condemned by a majority of Americans (while "proving" their case with pictures first published by the American media ::))
Go green while we sell OIL is a stupidity beyond reasons.
No, it's not.
Fossil fuel is still widely needed, because going 100% green is impossible today. The transition is costly and it may take a while.
Only rich countries (like Norway) may afford to invest heavily in green subsidies.
Like Norway, Texas is both a heavy oil producer AND a leader in renewable energy (where smart entrepreneurs are taking advantage of federal subsidies).
There is no contradiction. ;)
Yes, this is indeed a great solution. Everyone just keeps doing what they've been doing for the past 150 years. Great!
No, we should all exploit and sell oil in billions and show off how we are supporting renewable energy, that's gonna help a lot. And ban cows cause their farts are destroying us.
The Minister President of the State of Baden-Württmberg once said a long time ago: Environmental protection is a great and important thing - you just have to be able to afford it.
If we don't change anything, mankind will exploit the last drop of oil (and still make a lot of money with it). In this respect, the way to advance renewable energies as fast as possible is at least better than to go on as before! And this conversion costs now first of all money.
At least 90% of foreign military bases in the world are U.S. bases. The United States has more than 150,000 military troops deployed outside the United States on more than 800 bases (some estimates are more than 1000) in 160 countries, and all 7 continents.
TODAY, and nobody condemns that. Looks like a win in risk. And Russia would do the same if they could. And most if not all of people in those countries are against those bases being there and it represent hug war hazard potential for their regions as being targets.
(https://balticword.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/U.S.-military-bases-e1618315149792.jpg)
TODAY, and nobody condemns that. Looks like a win in risk. And Russia would do the same if they could. And most if not all of people in those countries are against those bases being there and it represent hug war hazard potential for their regions as being targets.
Again, with your anti-american whataboutism. Out of nowhere, another "fact" front the russian troll's playbook appeared. ::)
These military bases are not imposed on anyone.
There is no American invasion in these countries.
Those countries are feeling more secure hosting these basis and are getting paid for it.
Some countries are even lobbying to convince the Americans to open more facilities on their teritories, especially Eastern European countries, who know too well what being a russian vasal meant.
TODAY, and nobody condemns that. Looks like a win in risk. And Russia would do the same if they could. And most if not all of people in those countries are against those bases being there and it represent hug war hazard potential for their regions as being targets.
1) "TODAY, and nobody condemns that." you and people like you do?
2) "And most if not all of people in those countries are against those bases being there" your conclusion I suspect, not a real bit of statistical data?
3) The governments allow and welcome these bases.
Shure, that's why local are protesting against them all over the world. They can not be more aggressively imposed. Some even after invasions. You know from the other part of the world people want your military near their homes. I can not belive such ignorance and that someone can suck such propaganda LOL.
I can do this all day.
Shure, that's why local are protesting against them all over the world. They can not be more aggressively imposed. Some even after invasions. You know from the other part of the world people want your military near their homes. I can not belive such ignorance and that someone can suck such propaganda LOL.
I can do this all day.
I know you can do this all day. :D
Are you trying to show that in these countries people have the freedom to protest?
Because that's a good thing!
It only proves that there is no unanimity on this topic. I wonder why would you expect unanimity? Hmm... ;D
Now its a joke. Its just shows that there is no difference between Russian supporting Putin and you supporting this. Absolutely same brainwash level. Just you both want to play over European or other nations backs using them as pawns and victims.
There is Alaska, both of you have your chance to show muscles. But its easier to spread hate from your sofas and hope others will byte the propaganda ;)
Sure, Russia will or can occupy united Europe. Get real.1. As long as the United States has bases and keeps troops in the EU, Russia cannot and will not be able to do anything.
Sure, Russia will or can occupy united Europe. Get real.1. As long as the United States has bases and keeps troops in the EU, Russia cannot and will not be able to do anything.
2. All those photos are about nothing, this is not politics, these are some kind of single photos.
2. All those photos are about nothing, this is not politics, these are some kind of single photos.
Now its a joke. Its just shows that there is no difference between Russian supporting Putin and you supporting this. Absolutely same brainwash level. Just you both want to play over European or other nations backs using them as pawns and victims.
There is Alaska, both of you have your chance to show muscles. But its easier to spread hate from your sofas and hope others will byte the propaganda ;)
What?
When have you seen the last peaceful protest against a government decision in Russia?
What are you even talking about?
Being allowed to protest against their government decision is a good thing.
If enough are against it, they can always push their elected officials to act, or decide their faith in the next elections, if they don't. Maybe there is simply not enough critical mass to do that.
Maybe a majority of people in these european countries are feeling more secure under the NATO umbrella with american/NATO bases hosted on their territories, as a way to detter the russian aggression experienced by Ukraine today, and, throughout those ~45 years of russian imposed communism, by other east-european countries.
But for an anti-american marxist this may not be that obvious. :D
I was born in Heidelberg in Germany. A historic city. The city of German Romanticism.I was also born in a city that is in the proximity of an American military base, so I also know a bit about how locals are feeling about American soldiers roaming around.
Germany started the first and the second world war and lost both. Especially as far as World War II is concerned - in the context of what could have happened because of Hitler's megalomania - I'm glad it happened. The Allies made sure of that. The USA, France, UK and Russia divided Germany into occupation zones.
Heidelberg was in the US occupation zone. The US seemed to love the city and spared it. While neighboring cities (Mannheim, Ludwigshafen - 10 miles away) were almost completely destroyed as industrial sites, Heidelberg was spared. More to the point, Heidelberg became the headquarters of U.S. land forces in Europe for a long time. For 135,000 Heidelberg residents at the time, there were about 30,000 to 35,000 U.S. military personnel, with and beside whom I grew up. It was a peaceful coexistence. I got to know countless U.S. citizens from many states across the country. It was interesting because there was no internet. It was the direct exchange of information and communication from person to person.
I don't approve of everything the U.S. does. Mistakes are made there, too. And every now and then I would like to see more tact and restraint on international soil. Also, some political developments in the U.S. - and here I am with Pete's entry into this thread - worry me a lot. Because they could shake up democracy.
But one thing is for sure: I would never want to live under the current Russian conditions - in terms of freedom of speech, freedom of the press, independent judicial system, freedom of the media, right of opposition and much more. And - with all justified criticism - prefer the U.S. model any day. And sincerely hope that the U.S. will continue to protect these fundamental values.
And, yes, Europe would have a problem with its own defense and that of its own democratic values without the US.
Well one thing is for sure. The Western governments said they were not at war with Russia and they had no boots on the ground. Another lie by our statesmen and NATO so it seemed this week.
Although it's quite silly to say you are not at war with a country when you are sending tons of weapons to their enemy. But anyway, the point is that we are being lied to once again by our leaders. You can be fine with it, I am getting sick of all involved parties here actually. The only sensible word I heard this week was from Brazil stating that the US should not promote the war so much.
By the way all this war mongering is leading each week into a more split world. BRICS is getting closer together and China is even thinking of trading in the dollar for it's own currency for international trade. That would seriously give a blow to the US dollar and economy.
Well one thing is for sure. The Western governments said they were not at war with Russia and they had no boots on the ground. Another lie by our statesmen and NATO so it seemed this week.1. A year ago, Russia put forward an ultimatum to NATO, and demanded that NATO get out on the border of the 40s of the last century. In fact, this is already a declaration of war on NATO and all of Eastern Europe.
Although it's quite silly to say you are not at war with a country when you are sending tons of weapons to their enemy. But anyway, the point is that we are being lied to once again by our leaders. You can be fine with it, I am getting sick of all involved parties here actually. The only sensible word I heard this week was from Brazil stating that the US should not promote the war so much.
By the way all this war mongering is leading each week into a more split world. BRICS is getting closer together and China is even thinking of trading in the dollar for it's own currency for international trade. That would seriously give a blow to the US dollar and economy.
1. A year ago, Russia put forward an ultimatum to NATO, and demanded that NATO get out on the border of the 40s of the last century. In fact, this is already a declaration of war on NATO and all of Eastern Europe.
Well one thing is for sure. The Western governments said they were not at war with Russia and they had no boots on the ground. Another lie by our statesmen and NATO so it seemed this week.
Although it's quite silly to say you are not at war with a country when you are sending tons of weapons to their enemy. But anyway, the point is that we are being lied to once again by our leaders. You can be fine with it, I am getting sick of all involved parties here actually. The only sensible word I heard this week was from Brazil stating that the US should not promote the war so much.
By the way all this war mongering is leading each week into a more split world. BRICS is getting closer together and China is even thinking of trading in the dollar for it's own currency for international trade. That would seriously give a blow to the US dollar and economy.
Well one thing is for sure. The Western governments said they were not at war with Russia and they had no boots on the ground. Another lie by our statesmen and NATO so it seemed this week.1. A year ago, Russia put forward an ultimatum to NATO, and demanded that NATO get out on the border of the 40s of the last century. In fact, this is already a declaration of war on NATO and all of Eastern Europe.
Although it's quite silly to say you are not at war with a country when you are sending tons of weapons to their enemy. But anyway, the point is that we are being lied to once again by our leaders. You can be fine with it, I am getting sick of all involved parties here actually. The only sensible word I heard this week was from Brazil stating that the US should not promote the war so much.
By the way all this war mongering is leading each week into a more split world. BRICS is getting closer together and China is even thinking of trading in the dollar for it's own currency for international trade. That would seriously give a blow to the US dollar and economy.
2. There are no NATO soldiers in Ukraine who take part in the hostilities. There is only a foreign legion, but it only has volunteers from around the world.
3. Brazil supports Russia, as does China.
4. China is not able to replace the dollar, but the US is able to kill the Chinese economy. And the sooner the United States does this, the sooner there will be world peace.
5. If Russia occupies all of Ukraine, the war will spread to the NATO countries, and the captured Ukrainians will be driven ahead of the Russian troops. These are millions of people. If NATO uses nuclear weapons, it will kill the environment in many European countries. Therefore, the sooner NATO troops enter into hostilities with Russia, and the sooner the Russian fascists are expelled from Ukraine, the sooner peace will come to Europe.
6. NATO troops may not engage in hostilities if they are so afraid of it, especially after an ultimatum addressed to them. But NATO must provide good aircraft, long-range missiles, a lot of shells, artillery and tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Perhaps the Armed Forces of Ukraine will then cope with Russia without NATO.
Ukraine will also need tactical nuclear weapons.
* China is sitting on a crap load of dollars and can wipe the dollar of the face of the earth if they wanted to. Read your financial news.
You like many other Tucker Carlson & Co followers are misunderstanding the way international trade works.
You like many other Tucker Carlson & Co followers are misunderstanding the way international trade works.
Speaking of Tucker, Fox just settled with Dominion for over 3/4 billion dollars.
Gretchen Carlson tweeted yesterday:
"PLEASE Dominion --- Do not settle with Fox! You're about to prove something very big."
https://twitter.com/GretchenCarlson/status/1647782311469936646
I'm with her, I wish they didn't settle.
You like many other Tucker Carlson & Co followers are misunderstanding the way international trade works.
Speaking of Tucker, Fox just settled with Dominion for over 3/4 billion dollars.
Gretchen Carlson tweeted yesterday:
"PLEASE Dominion --- Do not settle with Fox! You're about to prove something very big."
https://twitter.com/GretchenCarlson/status/1647782311469936646
I'm with her, I wish they didn't settle.
Jake Tapper has the best take on it so far:
"'Difficult to say with a straight face': Tapper reacts to Fox News' statement on settlement"
cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/04/18/jake-tapper-dominion-lawsuit-settlement-fox-news-statement-lead-vpx.cnn
You like many other Tucker Carlson & Co followers are misunderstanding the way international trade works.
Speaking of Tucker, Fox just settled with Dominion for over 3/4 billion dollars.
Gretchen Carlson tweeted yesterday:
"PLEASE Dominion --- Do not settle with Fox! You're about to prove something very big."
https://twitter.com/GretchenCarlson/status/1647782311469936646
I'm with her, I wish they didn't settle.
Jake Tapper has the best take on it so far:
"'Difficult to say with a straight face': Tapper reacts to Fox News' statement on settlement"
cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/04/18/jake-tapper-dominion-lawsuit-settlement-fox-news-statement-lead-vpx.cnn
I saw that! lol
But on a serious note, Terry. You know what the saddest part of all of this is? Murdoch said, in discovery, that they did it so as not to lose viewers. If this is true, then the sad part is that there are so many viewers, who are either so indoctrinated or hate Democrats so much, that they would change the station than rather hear the truth.
Too much hate in this world :( (now we're back to Pete's opening comments)
Funny that someone, who was supposedly to block me, still reacts on my comments :)оk
But:I wrote about those who are directly involved in hostilities. You need to read more carefully.
* Military personnel of NATO countries that are active on Ukraine soil is NATO, not a bunch of volunteers. Read the newspapers.
* Ukraine is not one people. There are many etnic Russians in the East. That's why there was a civil war for the last ten years. Then there was a Minsk agreement that was broken by the Ukranian government and then things became sour. Read into the history.Brad and Russian propaganda, which is one and the same. There has never been a civil war in Ukraine. The war is going on with the Russian occupiers, who have sent troops to the Donbas since 2014, and they have also been joined by separatists, who are many in any country in the world. Some people were forced by Russian non-humans to fight against Ukraine.
Just wondering what you would have said when America invaded (in the last century after WO II) the following countries and Russia started delivering weapons to those countries (and did actually sometimes) to defend themselves:These were wars against communism and terrorists. The United States did everything right, but it’s a pity they did little. The communist and terrorist plague has reared its head again, and now it has not 1 but 3 heads.
* Haiti
* Cuba
* Domenican Republic
* Korea
* Laos
* Libanon
* Vietnam
* Cambodja
* Panama
* Irak
* Somalia
* Serbia
* Afghanistan
* Libya
Just wondering what you would have said when America invaded (in the last century after WO II) the following countries and Russia started delivering weapons to those countries (and did actually sometimes) to defend themselves:
* Haiti
* Cuba
* Domenican Republic
* Korea
* Laos
* Libanon
* Vietnam
* Cambodja
* Panama
* Irak
* Somalia
* Serbia
* Afghanistan
* Libya
You, on the other hand, have no idea how currency trading works. You do your study and you will understand that dumping a currency in large quantities and without a need for this currency will weaken that currency enormously. But that step will let suffer China also (they get less money for what it's worth now) so they will not take that step so swiftly. But if you keep poking they might. Keep on poking and see what happens :)
* China is sitting on a crap load of dollars and can wipe the dollar of the face of the earth if they wanted to. Read your financial news.
You like many other Tucker Carlson & Co followers are misunderstanding the way international trade works.
Those dollars, if released by China, will eventually return to the USA, either directly or indirectly, to buy USA goods, thus boosting the American economy.
That's a good thing for the USA.
If China decides to burn down that pile of dollars, then that would be the best trade ever for the USA: free chinese goods against a worthless pile of ashes.
That's a good thing for the USA
If they decide to keep saving them, then it's only a sign that they trust the USA economy.
They know that in the future they will continue to be able to exchange them against US goods (directly or indirectly)
That's a good thing for the USA.
;)
The only danger for the US dollar comes from US politicians with a protectionist agenda.
Just wondering what you would have said when America invaded (in the last century after WO II) the following countries and Russia started delivering weapons to those countries (and did actually sometimes) to defend themselves:
* Haiti
* Cuba
* Domenican Republic
* Korea
* Laos
* Libanon
* Vietnam
* Cambodja
* Panama
* Irak
* Somalia
* Serbia
* Afghanistan
* Libya
Real simple, the US did not INVADE those countries. But I told myself I wasn't going to get into this whatabout argument and the mistaken propaganda twisted falsehoods. So I should stop. Russia invaded the Ukraine, they are at war, they are trying to take over the country. Just as a side note, the US and other countries that got involved in any of the above conflicts, were not taking over the country.
Lets not forget: Trump "knows he’s an illegitimate president," Clinton said. "I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did … I know he knows this wasn’t on the level." Plus claims that the Russians swayed the election as well.
Sorry Fox and the people in denial and the still sold on some conspiracy folks... Biden won fair and square. Get over it!
I think the United States will impose sanctions against China and China will be in the 80-90s of the last century. This country steals technology and spreads authoritarianism, supports Russia and is a threat to democracy.You, on the other hand, have no idea how currency trading works. You do your study and you will understand that dumping a currency in large quantities and without a need for this currency will weaken that currency enormously. But that step will let suffer China also (they get less money for what it's worth now) so they will not take that step so swiftly. But if you keep poking they might. Keep on poking and see what happens :)
* China is sitting on a crap load of dollars and can wipe the dollar of the face of the earth if they wanted to. Read your financial news.
You like many other Tucker Carlson & Co followers are misunderstanding the way international trade works.
Those dollars, if released by China, will eventually return to the USA, either directly or indirectly, to buy USA goods, thus boosting the American economy.
That's a good thing for the USA.
If China decides to burn down that pile of dollars, then that would be the best trade ever for the USA: free chinese goods against a worthless pile of ashes.
That's a good thing for the USA
If they decide to keep saving them, then it's only a sign that they trust the USA economy.
They know that in the future they will continue to be able to exchange them against US goods (directly or indirectly)
That's a good thing for the USA.
;)
The only danger for the US dollar comes from US politicians with a protectionist agenda.
Tyrants, terrorists and autocracies are to blame for everything. The US had no other choice.
Just wondering what you would have said when America invaded (in the last century after WO II) the following countries and Russia started delivering weapons to those countries (and did actually sometimes) to defend themselves:
* Haiti
* Cuba
* Domenican Republic
* Korea
* Laos
* Libanon
* Vietnam
* Cambodja
* Panama
* Irak
* Somalia
* Serbia
* Afghanistan
* Libya
Real simple, the US did not INVADE those countries. But I told myself I wasn't going to get into this whatabout argument and the mistaken propaganda twisted falsehoods. So I should stop. Russia invaded the Ukraine, they are at war, they are trying to take over the country. Just as a side note, the US and other countries that got involved in any of the above conflicts, were not taking over the country.
Lets not forget: Trump "knows he’s an illegitimate president," Clinton said. "I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did … I know he knows this wasn’t on the level." Plus claims that the Russians swayed the election as well.
Sorry Fox and the people in denial and the still sold on some conspiracy folks... Biden won fair and square. Get over it!
I remember quite well when CNN was broadcasting live bombardments on Bagdad. The shock and awe technique. You think those were military targets? It was the whole bloody city. Everybody was sitting with popcorn to watch the show. Meanwhile, innocent Irakians were losing there lives. And everybody was cheering. I detest Islamic extremism but I can understand they were a little pissed off about this. Same as in Afghanistan, Libya etc... Bombs away :) Collateral damage right?
Really? Block me. I can't argue with stupid.Tyrants, terrorists and autocracies are to blame for everything. The US had no other choice.
Just wondering what you would have said when America invaded (in the last century after WO II) the following countries and Russia started delivering weapons to those countries (and did actually sometimes) to defend themselves:
* Haiti
* Cuba
* Domenican Republic
* Korea
* Laos
* Libanon
* Vietnam
* Cambodja
* Panama
* Irak
* Somalia
* Serbia
* Afghanistan
* Libya
Real simple, the US did not INVADE those countries. But I told myself I wasn't going to get into this whatabout argument and the mistaken propaganda twisted falsehoods. So I should stop. Russia invaded the Ukraine, they are at war, they are trying to take over the country. Just as a side note, the US and other countries that got involved in any of the above conflicts, were not taking over the country.
Lets not forget: Trump "knows he’s an illegitimate president," Clinton said. "I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did … I know he knows this wasn’t on the level." Plus claims that the Russians swayed the election as well.
Sorry Fox and the people in denial and the still sold on some conspiracy folks... Biden won fair and square. Get over it!
I remember quite well when CNN was broadcasting live bombardments on Bagdad. The shock and awe technique. You think those were military targets? It was the whole bloody city. Everybody was sitting with popcorn to watch the show. Meanwhile, innocent Irakians were losing there lives. And everybody was cheering. I detest Islamic extremism but I can understand they were a little pissed off about this. Same as in Afghanistan, Libya etc... Bombs away :) Collateral damage right?
You, on the other hand, have no idea how currency trading works. You do your study and you will understand that dumping a currency in large quantities and without a need for this currency will weaken that currency enormously. But that step will let suffer China also (they get less money for what it's worth now) so they will not take that step so swiftly. But if you keep poking they might. Keep on poking and see what happens :)
Really? Block me. I can't argue with stupid.When there are no arguments, get personal. Your drain is counted.
Just wondering what you would have said when America invaded (in the last century after WO II) the following countries and Russia started delivering weapons to those countries (and did actually sometimes) to defend themselves:
* Haiti
* Cuba
* Domenican Republic
* Korea
* Laos
* Libanon
* Vietnam
* Cambodja
* Panama
* Irak
* Somalia
* Serbia
* Afghanistan
* Libya
Real simple, the US did not INVADE those countries. But I told myself I wasn't going to get into this whatabout argument and the mistaken propaganda twisted falsehoods. So I should stop. Russia invaded the Ukraine, they are at war, they are trying to take over the country. Just as a side note, the US and other countries that got involved in any of the above conflicts, were not taking over the country.
Lets not forget: Trump "knows he’s an illegitimate president," Clinton said. "I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did … I know he knows this wasn’t on the level." Plus claims that the Russians swayed the election as well.
Sorry Fox and the people in denial and the still sold on some conspiracy folks... Biden won fair and square. Get over it!
I remember quite well when CNN was broadcasting live bombardments on Bagdad. The shock and awe technique. You think those were military targets? It was the whole bloody city. Everybody was sitting with popcorn to watch the show. Meanwhile, innocent Irakians were losing there lives. And everybody was cheering. I detest Islamic extremism but I can understand they were a little pissed off about this. Same as in Afghanistan, Libya etc... Bombs away :) Collateral damage right?
You think China is still dependend on it's exports like 20 years ago, right? They are not, they have created a self sustaining economy almost. Do your math. BRICS is by the way (214million (Brazil) + 143 million (Russia) + 1408 million (India) + 1412 million (China) + 59 million(South Africa) = 3,236 million inhabitants. EU + USA is just (447 + 332) 779 million. Factor 5 almost. Just that you know the numbers you are going against when the split actually happens. You can think you are big but they are a bit bigger actually when it comes down to a showdown. They are growing each year, we are shrinking. Just saying :)
You, on the other hand, have no idea how currency trading works. You do your study and you will understand that dumping a currency in large quantities and without a need for this currency will weaken that currency enormously. But that step will let suffer China also (they get less money for what it's worth now) so they will not take that step so swiftly. But if you keep poking they might. Keep on poking and see what happens :)
See the first point I made above. If China decides to spend their dollar savings, the American products will have a surge in demand and the exports will go up, boosting the American economy.
But if China decides to dump their dollar savings too fast, then you will not only have the effect of the first point, but also the effect of my second point.
It's the equivalent of China selling at a loss their dollar reserves, in other words, burning down a part of their reserves.
Actually many countries are intentionally printing money to flood the market with their currency, to devalue it, and stimulate their exports. This is bad because it's a permanent effect leading to inflation. But if China decides to suddenly dispose of their dollars savings, there will be no inflationary effect, because the dollar mass on the market remains the same.
Yes, the dollar may briefly appear weaker (market driven fluctuations happen all the time), but once the chinese reserves will be spent, things will return to normal and China loses.
Please do finally :)Really? Block me. I can't argue with stupid.When there are no arguments, get personal. Your drain is counted.
I'm sending the Russian troll to ignore.
Ok Pete, they did not invade to make it American soil. Agreed. But they did invade in the sence they breached the sovereignty of that country either by attacking it with boots on the ground or bombarding it to hell. Or not? If I think that Biden is a dictator and should be removed for the sake of American people and I would send my army in and bomb Washington DC, without actually making America my home soil, would it be OK then?
Just wondering what you would have said when America invaded (in the last century after WO II) the following countries and Russia started delivering weapons to those countries (and did actually sometimes) to defend themselves:
* Haiti
* Cuba
* Domenican Republic
* Korea
* Laos
* Libanon
* Vietnam
* Cambodja
* Panama
* Irak
* Somalia
* Serbia
* Afghanistan
* Libya
Real simple, the US did not INVADE those countries. But I told myself I wasn't going to get into this whatabout argument and the mistaken propaganda twisted falsehoods. So I should stop. Russia invaded the Ukraine, they are at war, they are trying to take over the country. Just as a side note, the US and other countries that got involved in any of the above conflicts, were not taking over the country.
Lets not forget: Trump "knows he’s an illegitimate president," Clinton said. "I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did … I know he knows this wasn’t on the level." Plus claims that the Russians swayed the election as well.
Sorry Fox and the people in denial and the still sold on some conspiracy folks... Biden won fair and square. Get over it!
I remember quite well when CNN was broadcasting live bombardments on Bagdad. The shock and awe technique. You think those were military targets? It was the whole bloody city. Everybody was sitting with popcorn to watch the show. Meanwhile, innocent Irakians were losing there lives. And everybody was cheering. I detest Islamic extremism but I can understand they were a little pissed off about this. Same as in Afghanistan, Libya etc... Bombs away :) Collateral damage right?
Whatever fighting or actions, I'm not pointing at that, legal, illegal, asked for, or intentions or anything else.
"Just wondering what you would have said when America invaded (in the last century after WO II) the following countries and Russia started delivering weapons to those countries (and did actually sometimes) to defend themselves:"
The US did not invade any country and wasn't trying to take over those countries. Russia is invading and trying to take over the Ukraine. Simple facts, and the honest truth, don't lie.
Where are you from, SVH?He is either from Russia or the Russian KGB (FSB) pays him for the dissemination of false Russian propaganda.
Where are you from, SVH?
It's true: the Roman Empire also disintegrated. The same goes for the Ottoman Empire. The advanced civilizations of Greece or Egypt - all history.
But from your lines I somehow read out that you wish for a Russian or Chinese empire. Is that really so?
Where are you from, SVH?Western part of Europe. Funny that when I am a bit critical on our own governments, who in my eyes, are on a war path with BRICS, I immediately would wish for a Russian or Chinese Empire.
It's true: the Roman Empire also disintegrated. The same goes for the Ottoman Empire. The advanced civilizations of Greece or Egypt - all history.
But from your lines I somehow read out that you wish for a Russian or Chinese empire. Is that really so?
Where are you from, SVH?Western part of Europe. Funny that when I am a bit critical on our own governments, who in my eyes, are on a war path with BRICS, I immediately would wish for a Russian or Chinese Empire.
It's true: the Roman Empire also disintegrated. The same goes for the Ottoman Empire. The advanced civilizations of Greece or Egypt - all history.
But from your lines I somehow read out that you wish for a Russian or Chinese empire. Is that really so?
Do you agree with all the things your government does and says? Actually that reminds me of a period of 80 years ago in your country. Don't you have a personal opinion (that may deviate) or can you you only repeat what is fed to you by your government and media?
You like many other Tucker Carlson & Co followers are misunderstanding the way international trade works.
Speaking of Tucker, Fox just settled with Dominion for over 3/4 billion dollars.
Gretchen Carlson tweeted yesterday:
"PLEASE Dominion --- Do not settle with Fox! You're about to prove something very big."
https://twitter.com/GretchenCarlson/status/1647782311469936646
I'm with her, I wish they didn't settle.
Fox News said Monday that it was parting ways with Tucker CarlsonGreat news! He promoted Russian propaganda in the USA.
Where are you from, SVH?Western part of Europe. Funny that when I am a bit critical on our own governments, who in my eyes, are on a war path with BRICS, I immediately would wish for a Russian or Chinese Empire.
It's true: the Roman Empire also disintegrated. The same goes for the Ottoman Empire. The advanced civilizations of Greece or Egypt - all history.
But from your lines I somehow read out that you wish for a Russian or Chinese empire. Is that really so?
Do you agree with all the things your government does and says? Actually that reminds me of a period of 80 years ago in your country. Don't you have a personal opinion (that may deviate) or can you you only repeat what is fed to you by your government and media?
You didn‘t answer my question.
To answer your question: Yes, I have my own opinion. If you look back, you can read some of it.
I am far from agreeing with everything that my current government or its predecessors have done. But do you know what I really appreciate about my government, despite all its possible faults? Not only am I allowed to have my own opinion - I'm even allowed to say it without being arrested.
Just not Merkel and Schröder. They are just as evil and the same criminal as Putin.Where are you from, SVH?Western part of Europe. Funny that when I am a bit critical on our own governments, who in my eyes, are on a war path with BRICS, I immediately would wish for a Russian or Chinese Empire.
It's true: the Roman Empire also disintegrated. The same goes for the Ottoman Empire. The advanced civilizations of Greece or Egypt - all history.
But from your lines I somehow read out that you wish for a Russian or Chinese empire. Is that really so?
Do you agree with all the things your government does and says? Actually that reminds me of a period of 80 years ago in your country. Don't you have a personal opinion (that may deviate) or can you you only repeat what is fed to you by your government and media?
You didn‘t answer my question.
To answer your question: Yes, I have my own opinion. If you look back, you can read some of it.
I am far from agreeing with everything that my current government or its predecessors have done. But do you know what I really appreciate about my government, despite all its possible faults? Not only am I allowed to have my own opinion - I'm even allowed to say it without being arrested.
And you can vote them out. Well, not you specifically, but you know what I mean.
Even more, you can stand for election yourself, or even start your own political party.
Not saying it's easy, not saying it's flawless, because it isn't. Far from.
But I'm convinced it's the lesser evil compared to many other systems in the world.
Fox News said Monday that it was parting ways with Tucker CarlsonGreat news! He promoted Russian propaganda in the USA.
You like many other Tucker Carlson & Co followers are misunderstanding the way international trade works.
Speaking of Tucker, Fox just settled with Dominion for over 3/4 billion dollars.
Gretchen Carlson tweeted yesterday:
"PLEASE Dominion --- Do not settle with Fox! You're about to prove something very big."
https://twitter.com/GretchenCarlson/status/1647782311469936646
I'm with her, I wish they didn't settle.
Speaking of Tucker (also the most "popular" non-russian prime time host on the russian state media):
Fox News said Monday that it was parting ways with Tucker Carlson, its most popular prime time host who was also the source of repeated controversies and headaches for the network because of his statements on everything from race relations to L.G.B.T.Q. rights.
The network made the announcement less than a week after it agreed to pay $787.5 million in a defamation lawsuit in which Mr. Carlson’s show, one of the highest rated on Fox, figured prominently for its role in spreading misinformation after the 2020 election.
In making its announcement, Fox offered a terse statement of gratitude. “Fox News Media and Tucker Carlson have agreed to part ways. We thank him for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a contributor,” it said.
His last program was on Friday, Fox said.
You like many other Tucker Carlson & Co followers are misunderstanding the way international trade works.
Speaking of Tucker, Fox just settled with Dominion for over 3/4 billion dollars.
Gretchen Carlson tweeted yesterday:
"PLEASE Dominion --- Do not settle with Fox! You're about to prove something very big."
https://twitter.com/GretchenCarlson/status/1647782311469936646
I'm with her, I wish they didn't settle.
Speaking of Tucker (also the most "popular" non-russian prime time host on the russian state media):
Fox News said Monday that it was parting ways with Tucker Carlson, its most popular prime time host who was also the source of repeated controversies and headaches for the network because of his statements on everything from race relations to L.G.B.T.Q. rights.
The network made the announcement less than a week after it agreed to pay $787.5 million in a defamation lawsuit in which Mr. Carlson’s show, one of the highest rated on Fox, figured prominently for its role in spreading misinformation after the 2020 election.
In making its announcement, Fox offered a terse statement of gratitude. “Fox News Media and Tucker Carlson have agreed to part ways. We thank him for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a contributor,” it said.
His last program was on Friday, Fox said.
Wow! A lot of conservatives will be crying in their beers tonight.
Murdoch must have had very good reason for what would be a very unpopular move with his viewers.
I also see that Don Lemon has had the chop at CNN.
You like many other Tucker Carlson & Co followers are misunderstanding the way international trade works.
Speaking of Tucker, Fox just settled with Dominion for over 3/4 billion dollars.
Gretchen Carlson tweeted yesterday:
"PLEASE Dominion --- Do not settle with Fox! You're about to prove something very big."
https://twitter.com/GretchenCarlson/status/1647782311469936646
I'm with her, I wish they didn't settle.
Speaking of Tucker (also the most "popular" non-russian prime time host on the russian state media):
Fox News said Monday that it was parting ways with Tucker Carlson, its most popular prime time host who was also the source of repeated controversies and headaches for the network because of his statements on everything from race relations to L.G.B.T.Q. rights.
The network made the announcement less than a week after it agreed to pay $787.5 million in a defamation lawsuit in which Mr. Carlson’s show, one of the highest rated on Fox, figured prominently for its role in spreading misinformation after the 2020 election.
In making its announcement, Fox offered a terse statement of gratitude. “Fox News Media and Tucker Carlson have agreed to part ways. We thank him for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a contributor,” it said.
His last program was on Friday, Fox said.
Wow! A lot of conservatives will be crying in their beers tonight.
Murdoch must have had very good reason for what would be a very unpopular move with his viewers.
I also see that Don Lemon has had the chop at CNN.
Dan Bongino is also out (because he "couldn't agree to the contract extension" wink, wink). So Fox just cut ties with two popular MAGA ideologues.
On the other hand, Don Lemon made an ugly comment about women "not being in their prime anymore" at 51, in reference to Nikki Haley. He even doubled down when his lady co-host called him out. Stupid and inconsiderate.
Annie, do I understand correctly that Fox is exclusively a pro-Trump channel? And that Fox is promoting Russian propaganda?
"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control."
—Theodore Dalrymple
This goes for the US culture wars, racial division, age divides, and political extremes. Those who only watch Fox and the others who only believe NPR are destined to become single minded with dehumanized closed minded values. Easy to control by the ones in power of their group.
"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control."
—Theodore Dalrymple
This goes for the US culture wars, racial division, age divides, and political extremes. Those who only watch Fox and the others who only believe NPR are destined to become single minded with dehumanized closed minded values. Easy to control by the ones in power of their group.
I would say equating Fox and NPR would be one of these lies.
"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control."
—Theodore Dalrymple
This goes for the US culture wars, racial division, age divides, and political extremes. Those who only watch Fox and the others who only believe NPR are destined to become single minded with dehumanized closed minded values. Easy to control by the ones in power of their group.
"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control."
—Theodore Dalrymple
This goes for the US culture wars, racial division, age divides, and political extremes. Those who only watch Fox and the others who only believe NPR are destined to become single minded with dehumanized closed minded values. Easy to control by the ones in power of their group.
I would say equating Fox and NPR would be one of these lies.
You mean the left wing, government supported TV and radio channels, compared to a private business, that's terribly biased to the right, is unfair? To whom? Fox? :)
I used to watch BBC news late at night for a more balanced view of what was going on in the world. I don't know if it's still like that? US media has become polarized and nothing is without bias or manipulation.
"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control."
—Theodore Dalrymple
This goes for the US culture wars, racial division, age divides, and political extremes. Those who only watch Fox and the others who only believe NPR are destined to become single minded with dehumanized closed minded values. Easy to control by the ones in power of their group.
I would say equating Fox and NPR would be one of these lies.
You mean the left wing, government supported TV and radio channels, compared to a private business, that's terribly biased to the right, is unfair? To whom? Fox? :)
I used to watch BBC news late at night for a more balanced view of what was going on in the world. I don't know if it's still like that? US media has become polarized and nothing is without bias or manipulation.
When it comes to media, there are two important factors to take into account. One is factual reporting. Second one is their bias.
A news outlet can rate high on factual reporting, which is good of course, but they can still decide on only running stories that fit a biased narrative.
BBC for instance has a pretty high rate on factual reporting, and runs stories that fit a center to center left bias.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/ (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/)
NPR is similar, high rating on factual reporting, and leaning to center left bias: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/npr/ (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/npr/)
Fox on the other hand leans towards extreme right reporting with mixed factual reporting: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/ (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/)
CNN is not doing much better: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/cnn-bias/ (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/cnn-bias/)
I used to watch BBC news late at night for a more balanced view of what was going on in the world. I don't know if it's still like that? US media has become polarized and nothing is without bias or manipulation.
I used to watch BBC news late at night for a more balanced view of what was going on in the world. I don't know if it's still like that? US media has become polarized and nothing is without bias or manipulation.
At least with the BBC, you don't get caught up with all the American political biases. Left. Right, Left Right. Left Right. As non-Americans, we are getting so sick of it.
There are so many big global issues at the moment that shouldn't fall into either of those categories, especially in order to be resolved.
...
Thanks Roscoe for some very good links.
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I also think contributors here are pretty left biased :)
I used to watch BBC news late at night for a more balanced view of what was going on in the world. I don't know if it's still like that? US media has become polarized and nothing is without bias or manipulation.
At least with the BBC, you don't get caught up with all the American political biases. Left. Right, Left Right. Left Right. As non-Americans, we are getting so sick of it.
There are so many big global issues at the moment that shouldn't fall into either of those categories, especially in order to be resolved.
...
Thanks Roscoe for some very good links.
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I also think contributors here are pretty left biased :)
That goes both ways I'm afraid. But thanks for the links that actually show most news broadcasters are biased on the left, including the BBC of which we all knew already. But, you are left then, right? :)
I used to watch BBC news late at night for a more balanced view of what was going on in the world. I don't know if it's still like that? US media has become polarized and nothing is without bias or manipulation.
At least with the BBC, you don't get caught up with all the American political biases. Left. Right, Left Right. Left Right. As non-Americans, we are getting so sick of it.
There are so many big global issues at the moment that shouldn't fall into either of those categories, especially in order to be resolved.
...
Thanks Roscoe for some very good links.
.
I also think contributors here are pretty left biased :)
The more you lean to the right, the more is left of you.
Up until a point where someone on the far-right side of the spectrum perceives center right or just right wing as left.
What I see is quite some rather centrist and nuanced people trying to talk some sense into the more extremes.
Yes, but a lot of you think alike here on each subject, no matter what the subject is. It's almost scary. You just repeat what is fed to you by your preferred media. It doesn't seem you have an opinion of your own at all. I can't hardly detect any deviation of the general thinking or a personal note in all of your opinions. It's a pity actually. It seems you are brainwashed entirely.
I also think contributors here are pretty left biased :)
This is pretty much how a balanced opinion may appear to the extreme right
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1JL1LMm/rofl.gif)
Yes, but a lot of you think alike here on each subject, no matter what the subject is. It's almost scary. You just repeat what is fed to you by your preferred media. It doesn't seem you have an opinion of your own at all. I can't hardly detect any deviation of the general thinking or a personal note in all of your opinions. It's a pity actually. It seems you are brainwashed entirely.
I also think contributors here are pretty left biased :)
This is pretty much how a balanced opinion may appear to the extreme right
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1JL1LMm/rofl.gif)
I used to watch BBC news late at night for a more balanced view of what was going on in the world. I don't know if it's still like that? US media has become polarized and nothing is without bias or manipulation.
At least with the BBC, you don't get caught up with all the American political biases. Left. Right, Left Right. Left Right. As non-Americans, we are getting so sick of it.
There are so many big global issues at the moment that shouldn't fall into either of those categories, especially in order to be resolved.
...
Thanks Roscoe for some very good links.
.
I also think contributors here are pretty left biased :)
That goes both ways I'm afraid. But thanks for the links that actually show most news broadcasters are biased on the left, including the BBC of which we all knew already. But, you are left then, right? :)
I used to watch BBC news late at night for a more balanced view of what was going on in the world. I don't know if it's still like that? US media has become polarized and nothing is without bias or manipulation.
At least with the BBC, you don't get caught up with all the American political biases. Left. Right, Left Right. Left Right. As non-Americans, we are getting so sick of it.
There are so many big global issues at the moment that shouldn't fall into either of those categories, especially in order to be resolved.
...
Thanks Roscoe for some very good links.
.
I also think contributors here are pretty left biased :)
The more you lean to the right, the more is left of you.
Up until a point where someone on the far-right side of the spectrum perceives center right or just right wing as left.
What I see is quite some rather centrist and nuanced people trying to talk some sense into the more extremes.
What do you think of Biden running again for presidency? I would pick someone else if you don't want the orange guy to take control. That is, if you are from the states of course.
There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.Who is Putin? This is a bloody dictator, a native of the KGB, read the NKVD. These structures were no different from the Gestapo. The Gestapo even learned all the atrocities from them before the war. Putin is not capable of creating anything but Nazism, chauvinism and fascism. Yes, he is trying to create a fascist and terrorist empire. Is it "left" or "right" ?
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
Which NBC News channel? Is it "left" or "right" ?I used to watch BBC news late at night for a more balanced view of what was going on in the world. I don't know if it's still like that? US media has become polarized and nothing is without bias or manipulation.At least with the BBC, you don't get caught up with all the American political biases. Left. Right, Left Right. Left Right. As non-Americans, we are getting so sick of it.
There are so many big global issues at the moment that shouldn't fall into either of those categories, especially in order to be resolved.
...
Thanks Roscoe for some very good links.
.
There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.You are trying to define fascism, Wilm.
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
In China, communism and there is also private property.There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.You are trying to define fascism, Wilm.
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
Thr only difference between the communism and fascism, is that the fascist government is tolerating the private property, as long as the owner is obeying the dear leader.
We can even say that fascists are a bit smarter, since they don't have to get involved in the mundane day to day management of the companies, to obtain what they need.
Instead of USSR today's russia should.rather call itself UFSR.
That's because today's China is communist only in name. They also got smarter and switched to fascism.In China, communism and there is also private property.There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.You are trying to define fascism, Wilm.
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
Thr only difference between the communism and fascism, is that the fascist government is tolerating the private property, as long as the owner is obeying the dear leader.
We can even say that fascists are a bit smarter, since they don't have to get involved in the mundane day to day management of the companies, to obtain what they need.
Instead of USSR today's russia should.rather call itself UFSR.
I don't see any difference at all between fascism and communism.
.Yes. The only missing ingredient is an explicit international aggression. But that's being planned as we speak.
+100.Yes. The only missing ingredient is an explicit international aggression. But that's being planned as we speak.
And that's not always a necessary condition.
They check the rest of the criteria:
- Authoritarian leader
- Supression of the oposition
- Submission of the ecomomy to the will of the government.
- Submission of the justice system to the will of the government.
- Suppresion of the free press and free speech
- Aggresive nationalist and cult of personality propaganda.
Nuances. Surprised. Aren't you? :)
Nuances. Surprised. Aren't you? :)
Speaking about "nuances". Take this:
(https://i.redd.it/0dnud7gl5es41.png)
;D
Basically, besides the traditional linear position on private property (left-right), we need one more dimension to define the type of government i.e authoritarian vs libertarian.
But I must admit that while conceptually a two dimension matrix is how we should look at the political spectrum, the nuances in the above matrix are going a "bit" too far for me.
Maybe one day, I will check what Posadism and Soulism are about ;D
Great. Now, where's Annies tribe?
https://youtu.be/elw0I9CIIPo
(https://youtu.be/elw0I9CIIPo)
There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.Do remember that Hitlers party was called NDSAP. National Socialist German Workers’ Party. So I would not trust any party that calls themselves socialist :)
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
Great. Now, where's Annies tribe?
I am trying to figure it out. I just checked and I can say that it's not "soulism":
Soulism, formerly known as Ego-Communalism, is an off-the-compass, libertarian-left ideology that believes that an individual should be able to do anything they desire, resulting in everyone sharing all their property (both private and personal) with everybody else because it is in everybody's best interest to share
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1JL1LMm/rofl.gif)
https://youtu.be/elw0I9CIIPo
(https://youtu.be/elw0I9CIIPo)
Great psychology opinion.
There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.Do remember that Hitlers party was called NDSAP. National Socialist German Workers’ Party. So I would not trust any party that calls themselves socialist :)
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
It's not "my" emoji. It's a gif I stole from one of Pete's posts. ;)Great. Now, where's Annies tribe?
I am trying to figure it out. I just checked and I can say that it's not "soulism":
Soulism, formerly known as Ego-Communalism, is an off-the-compass, libertarian-left ideology that believes that an individual should be able to do anything they desire, resulting in everyone sharing all their property (both private and personal) with everybody else because it is in everybody's best interest to share
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1JL1LMm/rofl.gif)
ROFL (where did you get your emoji from? I want one)
I've just woken up - still half asleep. we'll get to that later.
Nice chart, Zero
It's not "my" emoji. It's a gif I stole from one of Pete's posts. ;)Great. Now, where's Annies tribe?
I am trying to figure it out. I just checked and I can say that it's not "soulism":
Soulism, formerly known as Ego-Communalism, is an off-the-compass, libertarian-left ideology that believes that an individual should be able to do anything they desire, resulting in everyone sharing all their property (both private and personal) with everybody else because it is in everybody's best interest to share
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1JL1LMm/rofl.gif)
ROFL (where did you get your emoji from? I want one)
I've just woken up - still half asleep. we'll get to that later.
Nice chart, Zero
Which NBC News channel? Is it "left" or "right" ?I used to watch BBC news late at night for a more balanced view of what was going on in the world. I don't know if it's still like that? US media has become polarized and nothing is without bias or manipulation.At least with the BBC, you don't get caught up with all the American political biases. Left. Right, Left Right. Left Right. As non-Americans, we are getting so sick of it.
There are so many big global issues at the moment that shouldn't fall into either of those categories, especially in order to be resolved.
...
Thanks Roscoe for some very good links.
.
I asked about the American channel NBC News. I didn't ask about the BBC.Which NBC News channel? Is it "left" or "right" ?I used to watch BBC news late at night for a more balanced view of what was going on in the world. I don't know if it's still like that? US media has become polarized and nothing is without bias or manipulation.At least with the BBC, you don't get caught up with all the American political biases. Left. Right, Left Right. Left Right. As non-Americans, we are getting so sick of it.
There are so many big global issues at the moment that shouldn't fall into either of those categories, especially in order to be resolved.
...
Thanks Roscoe for some very good links.
.
I'm sorry Stoker. I forgot to answer this.
The BBC is British. From Wiki:
"The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) is the national broadcaster of the United Kingdom, based at Broadcasting House in London, England. It is the world's oldest national broadcaster, and the largest broadcaster in the world by number of employees, employing over 21,000 staff in total, of whom approximately 17,900 are in public-sector broadcasting.
The BBC is established under a royal charter and operates under its agreement with the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport."
From Roscoe's links above:
"BBC for instance has a pretty high rate on factual reporting, and runs stories that fit a center to center left bias.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/ (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/)"
From that link: "Overall, we rate the BBC Left-Center biased based on story selection that slightly favors the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing of information. Although they have failed a fact-check, they appropriately issued a correction."
and
"According to New Statesman’s research, examining the impartiality of the BBC’s reporting shows that they lean right in certain areas, such as business, immigration, and religion."
and
"When reporting general news, the BBC always sources its information and uses minimal loaded words in headlines"
Reading some of those media bias fact check links, I am guessing that many news outlets possibly could have received a 'left' bias for being critical of trump. For example, from the BBC link above: "When it comes to reporting on the USA and, in particular, former President Donald Trump, there is a negative tone directed at Trump and his policies."
The USSR worked closely with and assisted the National Socialist German Workers' Party until World War II. Helped everyone. Communism and fascism are one and the same.There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.Do remember that Hitlers party was called NDSAP. National Socialist German Workers’ Party. So I would not trust any party that calls themselves socialist :)
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
OMG - please don't tell me you're a QAnoner? Because that's the rubbish that they bandy about.
Please, please read up on the history of something before you make crazy assumptions like that.
I asked about the American channel NBC News.
You don't watch it?
You can’t go to YouTube at the address I gave? Is that possible?
I asked about the American channel NBC News.
You don't watch it?
No, I live in Australia, and NBC is geo-restricted and I dont use VPN.
You can’t go to YouTube at the address I gave? Is that possible?
I asked about the American channel NBC News.
You don't watch it?
No, I live in Australia, and NBC is geo-restricted and I dont use VPN.
I thought you live in the USA.
The USSR worked closely with and assisted the National Socialist German Workers' Party until World War II. Helped everyone. Communism and fascism are one and the same.There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.Do remember that Hitlers party was called NDSAP. National Socialist German Workers’ Party. So I would not trust any party that calls themselves socialist :)
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
OMG - please don't tell me you're a QAnoner? Because that's the rubbish that they bandy about.
Please, please read up on the history of something before you make crazy assumptions like that.
I don't expect quick answers from you. This is a forum, not a chat. When you have time, follow this link so I know if youtube shows this channel in Australia or not.You can’t go to YouTube at the address I gave? Is that possible?
I asked about the American channel NBC News.
You don't watch it?
No, I live in Australia, and NBC is geo-restricted and I dont use VPN.
I thought you live in the USA.
No, I'm Australian. I'm in the middle of something (its 8pm dinner time here) and dont have time to view links, and as I know NBC, I thought I would just post a quick reply.
Hitler's party was not called NDSAP, but NSDAP.ok.
In German, the terms "national" and "socailist" are written together to form the term "NationalSocialism".
This term is closely related to Nazism and has nothing to do with the term socialism as it is used today.
I don't expect quick answers from you. This is a forum, not a chat. When you have time, follow this link so I know if youtube shows this channel in Australia or not.You can’t go to YouTube at the address I gave? Is that possible?
I asked about the American channel NBC News.
You don't watch it?
No, I live in Australia, and NBC is geo-restricted and I dont use VPN.
I thought you live in the USA.
No, I'm Australian. I'm in the middle of something (its 8pm dinner time here) and dont have time to view links, and as I know NBC, I thought I would just post a quick reply.
https://www.youtube.com/@NBCNews/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@NBCNews/videos)
Well, the question still stands, is the @NBCNews channel "left" or "right". :)
RalfLiebhold, Everything is very simple. The @NBCNews channel is the only channel I watch in the US. I don't live in the USA. Annie has written extensively about the different channels and their political focus. And I just wondered which wing the @NBCNews channel belongs to. :)
It's not "my" emoji. It's a gif I stole from one of Pete's posts. ;)Great. Now, where's Annies tribe?
I am trying to figure it out. I just checked and I can say that it's not "soulism":
Soulism, formerly known as Ego-Communalism, is an off-the-compass, libertarian-left ideology that believes that an individual should be able to do anything they desire, resulting in everyone sharing all their property (both private and personal) with everybody else because it is in everybody's best interest to share
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1JL1LMm/rofl.gif)
ROFL (where did you get your emoji from? I want one)
I've just woken up - still half asleep. we'll get to that later.
Nice chart, Zero
RalfLiebhold, Everything is very simple. The @NBCNews channel is the only channel I watch in the US. I don't live in the USA. Annie has written extensively about the different channels and their political focus. And I just wondered which wing the @NBCNews channel belongs to. :)
NBC is at the left of Fox News, which is at the left of Newsmax and OAN.
So based on American standards NBC is leaning left, but they are at the right of CNN, which is at the right of MSNBC.
Anyway, the American "left" is at the right of the European "center".
Liberals are perceived as center-right in Europe, but as left in the US. ;D
The USSR worked closely with and assisted the National Socialist German Workers' Party until World War II. Helped everyone. Communism and fascism are one and the same.There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.Do remember that Hitlers party was called NDSAP. National Socialist German Workers’ Party. So I would not trust any party that calls themselves socialist :)
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
OMG - please don't tell me you're a QAnoner? Because that's the rubbish that they bandy about.
Please, please read up on the history of something before you make crazy assumptions like that.
Hitler's party was not called NDSAP, but NSDAP.
In German, the terms "national" and "socailist" are written together to form the term "NationalSocialism".
This term is closely related to Nazism and has nothing to do with the term socialism as it is used today.
Annie has written extensively about the different channels and their political focus. And I just wondered which wing the @NBCNews channel belongs to. :)
I still hear the same political stands from socialist parties today.
The USSR worked closely with and assisted the National Socialist German Workers' Party until World War II. Helped everyone. Communism and fascism are one and the same.There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.Do remember that Hitlers party was called NDSAP. National Socialist German Workers’ Party. So I would not trust any party that calls themselves socialist :)
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
OMG - please don't tell me you're a QAnoner? Because that's the rubbish that they bandy about.
Please, please read up on the history of something before you make crazy assumptions like that.
Hitler's party was not called NDSAP, but NSDAP.
In German, the terms "national" and "socailist" are written together to form the term "NationalSocialism".
This term is closely related to Nazism and has nothing to do with the term socialism as it is used today.
Sorry typo with the abbreviation. But your explanation is not quite true.
The NSDAP were actually really socialists. They hated communism but also loathed capitalism. The original founders and Hitler later were for redistribution of wealth, profit sharing for employees, nationalize companies that are of interest for society as a whole, as well as other known socialist ideas that current parties still have in the political agenda. Most of it came from the so called "wrong doing" after WO I and it attracted mostly the poorer part of the society (like socialist parties attract now as well). Jews were used as a scapegoat because they would own most of the wealth according to them. So, saying that it has nothing to do with today, is not actually true. I still hear the same political stands from socialist parties today.
No Ralf, you explicitly said that their ideas have nothing to do with socialist parties today.
I still hear the same political stands from socialist parties today.
Sorry, but that's all really too weird for me. And you even didn´t read my text.
I recommend a hearing aid.
Read your history I would say. They for sure were socialists as mentioned to Ralf already. I was not speaking about the states. I know, in the states, they are all far right (except a few) :)The USSR worked closely with and assisted the National Socialist German Workers' Party until World War II. Helped everyone. Communism and fascism are one and the same.There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.Do remember that Hitlers party was called NDSAP. National Socialist German Workers’ Party. So I would not trust any party that calls themselves socialist :)
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
OMG - please don't tell me you're a QAnoner? Because that's the rubbish that they bandy about.
Please, please read up on the history of something before you make crazy assumptions like that.
Hitler's party was not called NDSAP, but NSDAP.
In German, the terms "national" and "socailist" are written together to form the term "NationalSocialism".
This term is closely related to Nazism and has nothing to do with the term socialism as it is used today.
Sorry typo with the abbreviation. But your explanation is not quite true.
The NSDAP were actually really socialists. They hated communism but also loathed capitalism. The original founders and Hitler later were for redistribution of wealth, profit sharing for employees, nationalize companies that are of interest for society as a whole, as well as other known socialist ideas that current parties still have in the political agenda. Most of it came from the so called "wrong doing" after WO I and it attracted mostly the poorer part of the society (like socialist parties attract now as well). Jews were used as a scapegoat because they would own most of the wealth according to them. So, saying that it has nothing to do with today, is not actually true. I still hear the same political stands from socialist parties today.
No, they were not socialists. You are confusing populism with socialism.
NSDAP promoted the "völkisch nationalism" ideology, which is actually national-populism, in other words an ideology close to what we see behind Trump's MAGA movement (or Orban's Fidesz in Hungary).
Btw, there are virtually no socialists in the US, today. We only have a handful of democrat-socialists e.g. Bernie Sanders (independent) or AOC (at the left end of the democratic party)
Read your history I would say. They for sure were socialists as mentioned to Ralf already. I was not speaking about the states. I know, in the states, they are all far right (except a few) :)
Read your history I would say. They for sure were socialists as mentioned to Ralf already. I was not speaking about the states. I know, in the states, they are all far right (except a few) :)The USSR worked closely with and assisted the National Socialist German Workers' Party until World War II. Helped everyone. Communism and fascism are one and the same.There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.Do remember that Hitlers party was called NDSAP. National Socialist German Workers’ Party. So I would not trust any party that calls themselves socialist :)
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
OMG - please don't tell me you're a QAnoner? Because that's the rubbish that they bandy about.
Please, please read up on the history of something before you make crazy assumptions like that.
Hitler's party was not called NDSAP, but NSDAP.
In German, the terms "national" and "socailist" are written together to form the term "NationalSocialism".
This term is closely related to Nazism and has nothing to do with the term socialism as it is used today.
Sorry typo with the abbreviation. But your explanation is not quite true.
The NSDAP were actually really socialists. They hated communism but also loathed capitalism. The original founders and Hitler later were for redistribution of wealth, profit sharing for employees, nationalize companies that are of interest for society as a whole, as well as other known socialist ideas that current parties still have in the political agenda. Most of it came from the so called "wrong doing" after WO I and it attracted mostly the poorer part of the society (like socialist parties attract now as well). Jews were used as a scapegoat because they would own most of the wealth according to them. So, saying that it has nothing to do with today, is not actually true. I still hear the same political stands from socialist parties today.
No, they were not socialists. You are confusing populism with socialism.
NSDAP promoted the "völkisch nationalism" ideology, which is actually national-populism, in other words an ideology close to what we see behind Trump's MAGA movement (or Orban's Fidesz in Hungary).
Btw, there are virtually no socialists in the US, today. We only have a handful of democrat-socialists e.g. Bernie Sanders (independent) or AOC (at the left end of the democratic party)
No it isn't it. Hitler came to spy on them but liked their beliefs and joined them. Only to put National later to this socialist party. You do your reading, I would say. Where do you get your information from?Read your history I would say. They for sure were socialists as mentioned to Ralf already. I was not speaking about the states. I know, in the states, they are all far right (except a few) :)
Read.
The name they gave themselves doesn't reflect their ideology, the same way Trump's MAGA doesn't reflect the conservative/republican ideology anymore.
Actually they are calling the real conservatives RINOs (= Republicans In Name Only), when it's rather the other way around.
"The renaming of the German Worker's Party (DAP) to the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP) was partially driven by a desire to draw upon both left-wing and right-wing ideals, with "Socialist" and "Workers'" appealing to the left, and "National" and "German" appealing to the right"
Read your history I would say. They for sure were socialists as mentioned to Ralf already. I was not speaking about the states. I know, in the states, they are all far right (except a few) :)The USSR worked closely with and assisted the National Socialist German Workers' Party until World War II. Helped everyone. Communism and fascism are one and the same.There used to be a definition that socialist politics should be classified on the left.Do remember that Hitlers party was called NDSAP. National Socialist German Workers’ Party. So I would not trust any party that calls themselves socialist :)
Now that Putin has apparently decided to make Russia a USSR again (the first S stands for socialist), one should ask whether this is still "left“. Socialism saw itself as the antithesis of capitalism. As it stands, however, it is currently a special kind of capitalism in which a handful of government officials and oligarchs are swimming in vast sums of money. Just a thought.
OMG - please don't tell me you're a QAnoner? Because that's the rubbish that they bandy about.
Please, please read up on the history of something before you make crazy assumptions like that.
Hitler's party was not called NDSAP, but NSDAP.
In German, the terms "national" and "socailist" are written together to form the term "NationalSocialism".
This term is closely related to Nazism and has nothing to do with the term socialism as it is used today.
Sorry typo with the abbreviation. But your explanation is not quite true.
The NSDAP were actually really socialists. They hated communism but also loathed capitalism. The original founders and Hitler later were for redistribution of wealth, profit sharing for employees, nationalize companies that are of interest for society as a whole, as well as other known socialist ideas that current parties still have in the political agenda. Most of it came from the so called "wrong doing" after WO I and it attracted mostly the poorer part of the society (like socialist parties attract now as well). Jews were used as a scapegoat because they would own most of the wealth according to them. So, saying that it has nothing to do with today, is not actually true. I still hear the same political stands from socialist parties today.
No, they were not socialists. You are confusing populism with socialism.
NSDAP promoted the "völkisch nationalism" ideology, which is actually national-populism, in other words an ideology close to what we see behind Trump's MAGA movement (or Orban's Fidesz in Hungary).
Btw, there are virtually no socialists in the US, today. We only have a handful of democrat-socialists e.g. Bernie Sanders (independent) or AOC (at the left end of the democratic party)
No they were not. They were fascists. To understand the difference, you need to understand the style of government involved in both. This is probably as good an explanation as any.
Socialism is one of the several kinds of governance. This kind of governance argues that the state should own and control a wide range of properties, including some natural resource extraction. Socialists are persons who believe in socialism. Giving the state such authority over assets, investments, and outputs, socialists think, will ensure that individuals are treated equally. However, there are a number of considerations to consider with this concept.
Fascism may be defined as a type of administration in which all of a country's authority is concentrated in the hands of a single dictator. It began in Italy in the early twentieth century and spread across Europe by the conclusion of World War II to bolster Adolf Hitler's German *. Fascism does not tolerate dissent and is intent on spreading its "better ideology" throughout the world.
https://www.diffzy.com/article/difference-between-socialism-and-fascism-559#:~:text=The%20major%20distinction%20between%20socialism%20and%20fascism%20is,is%20one%20of%20the%20several%20kinds%20of%20governance. (https://www.diffzy.com/article/difference-between-socialism-and-fascism-559#:~:text=The%20major%20distinction%20between%20socialism%20and%20fascism%20is,is%20one%20of%20the%20several%20kinds%20of%20governance.)
No it isn't it. Hitler came to spy on them but liked their beliefs and joined them. Only to put National later to this socialist party. You do your reading, I would say. Where do you get your information from?Yes it is.
I am sorry Annie. But you are from Australia and obviously have no idea of European history. So you try but I will not give your reasoning a second thought.
But even nowadays it's the socialist parties in Europe demonstrating against Israel. So even the hatred against Jews is maybe still alive in the current socialism.
I still hear the same political stands from socialist parties today.
Sorry, but that's all really too weird for me. And you even didn´t read my text.
I recommend a hearing aid.
No it isn't it. Hitler came to spy on them but liked their beliefs and joined them. Only to put National later to this socialist party. You do your reading, I would say. Where do you get your information from?Yes it is.
They were both anti-marxists and anti-capitalists. That's an oxymoron.
But they went for it, because they wanted to please a wide range of the disgruntled population => national populism.
Socialists are very much marxists.
I am sorry Annie. But you are from Australia and obviously have no idea of European history. So you try but I will not give your reasoning a second thought.
Oh My God! Your true stripes are showing.
Here we go with the labeling. And I reiterate, know your history or your subject of attack before you start labelling.
My father was Hungarian, my mother Polish. Both born and raised in Europe and later met here in Australia. My mother's first husband was Ukrainian. I have half brothers and sisters, and extended family, who are Hungarian (living in Hungary) and Ukranian. Is that enough or should I go on?
OMG. I can't even believe you said that.
Be careful. Don't shoot the messenger.
I am sorry Annie. But you are from Australia and obviously have no idea of European history. So you try but I will not give your reasoning a second thought.
Oh My God! Your true stripes are showing.
Here we go with the labeling. And I reiterate, know your history or your subject of attack before you start labelling.
My father was Hungarian, my mother Polish. Both born and raised in Europe and later met here in Australia. My mother's first husband was Ukrainian. I have half brothers and sisters, and extended family, who are Hungarian (living in Hungary) and Ukranian. Is that enough or should I go on?
OMG. I can't even believe you said that.
Be careful. Don't shoot the messenger.
Remember Annie that I was the only the one to congratulate on your birthday last year (although one day to late) and wished you well with the birthday cake you wanted to eat (which you actually shouldn't have done, right?). But this infantile lesson between socialism and nazism, I already had at primary school. I can't really respond to something like that. I wish you well though. Sorry if I was rude :)
Yes, I can view your Youtube NBC links. Am I interested? No - particularly if all you want to know is this left/right stuff.ok.
I am sorry Annie. But you are from Australia and obviously have no idea of European history. So you try but I will not give your reasoning a second thought.
Oh My God! Your true stripes are showing.
Here we go with the labeling. And I reiterate, know your history or your subject of attack before you start labelling.
My father was Hungarian, my mother Polish. Both born and raised in Europe and later met here in Australia. My mother's first husband was Ukrainian. I have half brothers and sisters, and extended family, who are Hungarian (living in Hungary) and Ukranian. Is that enough or should I go on?
OMG. I can't even believe you said that.
Be careful. Don't shoot the messenger.
Remember Annie that I was the only the one to congratulate on your birthday last year (although one day to late) and wished you well with the birthday cake you wanted to eat (which you actually shouldn't have done, right?). But this infantile lesson between socialism and nazism, I already had at primary school. I can't really respond to something like that. I wish you well though. Sorry if I was rude :)
Yes, I do remember that. I was quite surprised at the time and thought that was really sweet of you to remember. Thanks for the apology.
My mother used to say to us kids when we were fighting, 'Do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy?'
Most arguing is about everyone trying to be right. Probably time for me to just be happy :-)
(PS. That was nearly a year ago. My birthday is in a month's time - 29 May. You can send cards, flowers, and maybe just a little bit of cake. ;) Just kidding )
Only hours ago, in Uman, Ukraine.Yes, the Russian fascists fired several rockets at residential buildings and wrote in their news that they hit right on target. It was not a blunder, it was a terrorist act.
... heartbreaking ... :'(
@Carlos Barria/Reuters
No it isn't it. Hitler came to spy on them but liked their beliefs and joined them. Only to put National later to this socialist party. You do your reading, I would say. Where do you get your information from?Yes it is.
They were both anti-marxists and anti-capitalists. That's an oxymoron.
But they went for it, because they wanted to please a wide range of the disgruntled population => national populism.
Socialists are very much marxists.
Isn't that what all socialist parties do? Prey on displeasing. Promising that if they take money from the rich and give it to the poor things will be better? That is exactly what Hitler did, and that same party did also before he came, and what is promised also today by socialist parties. Isn't it? The scapegoat differs. Then it was the Weimar republic heavily being burdened by the treaty of Versailles and blaming the jews for owning all the money.
Only hours ago, in Uman, Ukraine.
... heartbreaking ... :'(
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fuy8lG8XsAEhJ9t?format=jpg)
@Carlos Barria/Reuters
I didn't say that that the Weimar republic was anti Semetic. I said that during their reign people were, so called, suffering from the Versailles agreements. Something completely different from what you are saying. And then came Hitler with the party he joined. That party did make a point about the jews and that was the socialist party Hitler joined and afterwards led. Try to read and interpret correctly next time.No it isn't it. Hitler came to spy on them but liked their beliefs and joined them. Only to put National later to this socialist party. You do your reading, I would say. Where do you get your information from?Yes it is.
They were both anti-marxists and anti-capitalists. That's an oxymoron.
But they went for it, because they wanted to please a wide range of the disgruntled population => national populism.
Socialists are very much marxists.
Isn't that what all socialist parties do? Prey on displeasing. Promising that if they take money from the rich and give it to the poor things will be better? That is exactly what Hitler did, and that same party did also before he came, and what is promised also today by socialist parties. Isn't it? The scapegoat differs. Then it was the Weimar republic heavily being burdened by the treaty of Versailles and blaming the jews for owning all the money.
Again you get facts mixed up! No, it was not the Weimar Republic that was anti-Semitic! On the contrary! It was the conservative thinkers, those who mourned the Kaiserreich, the supporters of the NSDAP, who brought down the Weimar Republic and paved the way for Hitler to come to power.
Yes, but what about....Here you are:
Now in the US Congress, both Democrats and Republicans are putting pressure on Biden and there is hope that the US will allow Ukraine to transfer F-16 and ATACMS missiles. If there is this aircraft and these missiles, the Russian occupation troops will very quickly be thrown out of the territory of Ukraine, and the sky over Ukraine will be closed.Yes, throw more weapons into a fight. That will certainly help reducing suffering. But if you are doing it, just nuke Russia otherwise it will only prolong suffering. Can't you see that America just wants that it will cost Russia more then they expected. It's a dangerous game and somebody will get a bit nervous around the red button. Or maybe someone just makes a misstake because of wrong intel. And then we are all going to die here in Europe. Thanks a lot for you war games!
I didn't say that that the Weimar republic was anti Semetic.No it isn't it. Hitler came to spy on them but liked their beliefs and joined them. Only to put National later to this socialist party. You do your reading, I would say. Where do you get your information from?Yes it is.
They were both anti-marxists and anti-capitalists. That's an oxymoron.
But they went for it, because they wanted to please a wide range of the disgruntled population => national populism.
Socialists are very much marxists.
Isn't that what all socialist parties do? Prey on displeasing. Promising that if they take money from the rich and give it to the poor things will be better? That is exactly what Hitler did, and that same party did also before he came, and what is promised also today by socialist parties. Isn't it? The scapegoat differs. Then it was the Weimar republic heavily being burdened by the treaty of Versailles and blaming the jews for owning all the money.
Again you get facts mixed up! No, it was not the Weimar Republic that was anti-Semitic! On the contrary! It was the conservative thinkers, those who mourned the Kaiserreich, the supporters of the NSDAP, who brought down the Weimar Republic and paved the way for Hitler to come to power.
I wrote:I didn't say that that the Weimar republic was anti Semetic.No it isn't it. Hitler came to spy on them but liked their beliefs and joined them. Only to put National later to this socialist party. You do your reading, I would say. Where do you get your information from?Yes it is.
They were both anti-marxists and anti-capitalists. That's an oxymoron.
But they went for it, because they wanted to please a wide range of the disgruntled population => national populism.
Socialists are very much marxists.
Isn't that what all socialist parties do? Prey on displeasing. Promising that if they take money from the rich and give it to the poor things will be better? That is exactly what Hitler did, and that same party did also before he came, and what is promised also today by socialist parties. Isn't it? The scapegoat differs. Then it was the Weimar republic heavily being burdened by the treaty of Versailles and blaming the jews for owning all the money.
Again you get facts mixed up! No, it was not the Weimar Republic that was anti-Semitic! On the contrary! It was the conservative thinkers, those who mourned the Kaiserreich, the supporters of the NSDAP, who brought down the Weimar Republic and paved the way for Hitler to come to power.
You wrote: „ Then it was the Weimar republic … blaming the jews for owning all the money.“
And I repeat myself: this is wrong! It was not the Weimar Republic. It was right-wing political circles that existed during the Weimar Republic. That is a huge difference!!!
I wrote:I didn't say that that the Weimar republic was anti Semetic.No it isn't it. Hitler came to spy on them but liked their beliefs and joined them. Only to put National later to this socialist party. You do your reading, I would say. Where do you get your information from?Yes it is.
They were both anti-marxists and anti-capitalists. That's an oxymoron.
But they went for it, because they wanted to please a wide range of the disgruntled population => national populism.
Socialists are very much marxists.
Isn't that what all socialist parties do? Prey on displeasing. Promising that if they take money from the rich and give it to the poor things will be better? That is exactly what Hitler did, and that same party did also before he came, and what is promised also today by socialist parties. Isn't it? The scapegoat differs. Then it was the Weimar republic heavily being burdened by the treaty of Versailles and blaming the jews for owning all the money.
Again you get facts mixed up! No, it was not the Weimar Republic that was anti-Semitic! On the contrary! It was the conservative thinkers, those who mourned the Kaiserreich, the supporters of the NSDAP, who brought down the Weimar Republic and paved the way for Hitler to come to power.
You wrote: „ Then it was the Weimar republic … blaming the jews for owning all the money.“
And I repeat myself: this is wrong! It was not the Weimar Republic. It was right-wing political circles that existed during the Weimar Republic. That is a huge difference!!!
"Then it was the Weimar republic heavily being burdened by the treaty of Versailles and blaming the jews for owning all the money." It was a sentence in a long story. You should have read Hitlers party between Versailles and blaming the jews. Obviously, you know the history, it's not the Weimar republic that blamed the jews, it was Hitler and his party that took over. I was only making a point about the scape goat here. Sure, I could have spelled it out better. But the point there was that people of the Weimar republic were suffering of the Versalles agreement and that is why Hitlers party became so succesful. While other socialist parties become sucessful also when the people think they are suffering. And then it is easy to find a scape goat. C'mon.
Yes, but what about....Here you are:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5)
7,186 civilians killed during "shock and awe". The US is more effective than Russia. It took them not even two months and Russia took about eight months to do it. Hats of for the USA.
I did not gave permission to mingle into this war as an European civilian nor did I gave permission to mingle into political affairs before their civil war ten years back.
You only prove my point.This troll is itself a part of Russian propaganda, he relays it 100%. He does not add or change anything in this propaganda. He is paid for it.
Instead of being horrified by those attrocities, you justify them.
Through cheap whatabaoutism, you are rationalizing murder, torture, and human suffering happening, next door, right now, under your eyes
You have become "comfortably numb".
.. and it's not a civil war, but an egregious aggression of a sovereign country by an imperialist power.
You are the proof that propaganda is effective.
:(
Russia, like Germany back then, wants to become great again....Russia is a fascist and totalitarian country. Russia's goal is terrorism, murder, war crimes, genocide and the death of democracy. There is no need to talk about greatness here, these are just words for the electorate. Russians are a poor nation, but they want to kill other peoples and occupy other people's territories. Why work when you can invade a foreign country, kill people, deport people, rob people. Russians break into the houses of Ukrainians, take away toilet bowls, washing machines, household appliances and take the loot to Russia. Russian occupants massively deport Ukrainians to Russia as slaves. Children are also deported. The court in The Hague has already issued an arrest warrant for Putin.
Is anyone following the Twitter and Elon Musk? He unblocked Russian propaganda on twitter. Why is he working for the Russians? Or did Trump order him?
Is anyone following the Twitter and Elon Musk? He unblocked Russian propaganda on twitter. Why is he working for the Russians? Or did Trump order him?
I'm not a fan, but it's his company. He should be free to do use it as he wants.
I read this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/technology/twitter-hate-speech.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/technology/twitter-hate-speech.html)
According to the New York Times, since Musk's arrival on Twitter, the number of images of African-Americans on the network has increased by 3,876 times per day, homosexuals - by 3,964 times per day, and the number of anti-Semitic posts has increased by 61% in two weeks.
The accounts of ISIS and QAnon (an ultra-right community of conspiracy theorists in the United States) have been leaked again on Twitter.
Imran Ahmed, executive director of the Center to Counter Digital Hate, wrote: "Musk is sending a signal to all racists, misogynists and homophobes that they can go back to Twitter and go about their business in peace."
Twitter is a company that does not block Russian propaganda accounts, profiles of politicians, war criminals and their aggressive content.
But where is your problem with African Americans and homosexuals? And why do you equate these groups of people with anti-Semites or ISIS or QAnon?I have nothing to do with it. I briefly quoted what they write in the article, the link to which I gave. All these questions should be asked to Musk.
I read this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/technology/twitter-hate-speech.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/technology/twitter-hate-speech.html)
According to the New York Times, since Musk's arrival on Twitter, the number of images of African-Americans on the network has increased by 3,876 times per day, homosexuals - by 3,964 times per day, and the number of anti-Semitic posts has increased by 61% in two weeks.
The accounts of ISIS and QAnon (an ultra-right community of conspiracy theorists in the United States) have been leaked again on Twitter.
Imran Ahmed, executive director of the Center to Counter Digital Hate, wrote: "Musk is sending a signal to all racists, misogynists and homophobes that they can go back to Twitter and go about their business in peace."
Twitter is a company that does not block Russian propaganda accounts, profiles of politicians, war criminals and their aggressive content.
Personally, I have a huge problem with Elon Musk anyway.
But where is your problem with African Americans and homosexuals? And why do you equate these groups of people with anti-Semites or ISIS or QAnon?
I read this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/technology/twitter-hate-speech.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/technology/twitter-hate-speech.html)
According to the New York Times, since Musk's arrival on Twitter, the number of images of African-Americans on the network has increased by 3,876 times per day, homosexuals - by 3,964 times per day, and the number of anti-Semitic posts has increased by 61% in two weeks.
The accounts of ISIS and QAnon (an ultra-right community of conspiracy theorists in the United States) have been leaked again on Twitter.
Imran Ahmed, executive director of the Center to Counter Digital Hate, wrote: "Musk is sending a signal to all racists, misogynists and homophobes that they can go back to Twitter and go about their business in peace."
Twitter is a company that does not block Russian propaganda accounts, profiles of politicians, war criminals and their aggressive content.
Personally, I have a huge problem with Elon Musk anyway.
But where is your problem with African Americans and homosexuals? And why do you equate these groups of people with anti-Semites or ISIS or QAnon?
The article is talking about an increase of slurs, not images, against black Americans, Jews and gay men.
But where is your problem with African Americans and homosexuals? And why do you equate these groups of people with anti-Semites or ISIS or QAnon?I have nothing to do with it. I briefly quoted what they write in the article, the link to which I gave. All these questions should be asked to Musk.
Okay, sorry, Zero Talent cleared up my thoughts.Pardon my bad english
I read this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/technology/twitter-hate-speech.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/technology/twitter-hate-speech.html)
According to the New York Times, since Musk's arrival on Twitter, the increase of slurs of African-Americans on the network by 3,876 times per day, homosexuals - by 3,964 times per day, and the number of anti-Semitic posts has increased by 61% in two weeks.
The accounts of ISIS and QAnon (an ultra-right community of conspiracy theorists in the United States) have been leaked again on Twitter.
Imran Ahmed, executive director of the Center to Counter Digital Hate, wrote: "Musk is sending a signal to all racists, misogynists and homophobes that they can go back to Twitter and go about their business in peace."
Twitter is a company that does not block Russian propaganda accounts, profiles of politicians, war criminals and their aggressive content.
So I looked up the USA first amendment and some scholars said: the Government cannot interfere with your right to free speech, religion, free press, etc. But if there's no government involved the first amendment does not apply.**
So I looked up the USA first amendment and some scholars said: the Government cannot interfere with your right to free speech, religion, free press, etc. But if there's no government involved the first amendment does not apply.**
Of course, many don't understand that the 1st amendment only applies to the government, not private entities.
Old Twitter had all the right to deny whomever they wanted the "right"
to express themselves on their private platform, including an acting US president (let me see that in russia, please), the same way Musk has the right to host whomever he likes or thinks is good for his business.
The 1st Amendment only comes into the picture if the conspiracy (also promoted by Musk) claiming that the government was behind those suspensions is proven true.
I'm sure that the old Twitter worked with the FBI, like many other communication companies do (e.g. Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T, FB, Google, etc). But from this to coercion by the government and a breach of the 1st Amendment, is a (very) long way.
Old Twitter thought they had a business interest to limit hate speech because that would scare away advertisers, while Musk thinks this is not an issue, betting that a controversial Twitter will draw a bigger audience and the advertisers will follow.
Within the American legal system, free speech does not apply if it is harmful to others. As per the recent Alex Jones trial.I can't say that I understood all your thoughts. But I will say this, if insults are written to different segments of the population on Twitter; and if Twitter does not block Russian propaganda and war criminals, then Twitter is harming humanity.
Yes, but what about....Here you are:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5)
7,186 civilians killed during "shock and awe". The US is more effective than Russia. It took them not even two months and Russia took about eight months to do it. Hats of for the USA.I did not gave permission to mingle into this war as an European civilian nor did I gave permission to mingle into political affairs before their civil war ten years back.
You only prove my point.
Instead of being horrified by those attrocities, you justify them.
Through cheap whatabaoutism, you are rationalizing murder, torture, and human suffering happening, next door, right now, under your eyes
You have become "comfortably numb".
.. and it's not a civil war, but an egregious aggression of a sovereign country by an imperialist power.
You are the proof that propaganda is effective.
:(
Yes, but what about....Here you are:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5)
7,186 civilians killed during "shock and awe". The US is more effective than Russia. It took them not even two months and Russia took about eight months to do it. Hats of for the USA.I did not gave permission to mingle into this war as an European civilian nor did I gave permission to mingle into political affairs before their civil war ten years back.
You only prove my point.
Instead of being horrified by those attrocities, you justify them.
Through cheap whatabaoutism, you are rationalizing murder, torture, and human suffering happening, next door, right now, under your eyes
You have become "comfortably numb".
.. and it's not a civil war, but an egregious aggression of a sovereign country by an imperialist power.
You are the proof that propaganda is effective.
:(
Why were the Minsk accords broken by Ukraine?
Yes, but what about....Here you are:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5)
7,186 civilians killed during "shock and awe". The US is more effective than Russia. It took them not even two months and Russia took about eight months to do it. Hats of for the USA.I did not gave permission to mingle into this war as an European civilian nor did I gave permission to mingle into political affairs before their civil war ten years back.
You only prove my point.
Instead of being horrified by those attrocities, you justify them.
Through cheap whatabaoutism, you are rationalizing murder, torture, and human suffering happening, next door, right now, under your eyes
You have become "comfortably numb".
.. and it's not a civil war, but an egregious aggression of a sovereign country by an imperialist power.
You are the proof that propaganda is effective.
:(
Why were the Minsk accords broken by Ukraine?
Where does the information come from that Ukraine has violated the Minsk Agreement?
But seriously, why intervene in Yugoslavia and split the country up in regions where ethnic people are in the majority? It seems to work (although they still hate each other) but at least it's kind of stable.Yes, but what about....Here you are:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5)
7,186 civilians killed during "shock and awe". The US is more effective than Russia. It took them not even two months and Russia took about eight months to do it. Hats of for the USA.I did not gave permission to mingle into this war as an European civilian nor did I gave permission to mingle into political affairs before their civil war ten years back.
You only prove my point.
Instead of being horrified by those attrocities, you justify them.
Through cheap whatabaoutism, you are rationalizing murder, torture, and human suffering happening, next door, right now, under your eyes
You have become "comfortably numb".
.. and it's not a civil war, but an egregious aggression of a sovereign country by an imperialist power.
You are the proof that propaganda is effective.
:(
The word "Great" please do not use in relation to Russia. This empire has never been great, ever. And the Russians themselves never existed, they are a mixture of Mongols, Asians and Ukrainians. As a result, the Russians appeared only in the 16th century, after which they began to kill their neighbors, occupy their territories and appropriated the history of the Ukrainian people. But Ukrainians have lived in Europe since Kievan Rus'. Ukrainians lived in Kievan Rus' and spoke the Ukrainian language.GreatRussian Empire
Exactly. Yugoslavia did not work, neither will Ukraine as a whole. That was my point. Split it up like we did with Yugoslavia. I am not saying the eastern part should be part of Russia but give it, it's own country, which then can relate to which ever country it likes, as well as the western part. That will be the end solution to this war and stop the unnecessary loss of lives.But seriously, why intervene in Yugoslavia and split the country up in regions where ethnic people are in the majority? It seems to work (although they still hate each other) but at least it's kind of stable.Yes, but what about....Here you are:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5)
7,186 civilians killed during "shock and awe". The US is more effective than Russia. It took them not even two months and Russia took about eight months to do it. Hats of for the USA.I did not gave permission to mingle into this war as an European civilian nor did I gave permission to mingle into political affairs before their civil war ten years back.
You only prove my point.
Instead of being horrified by those attrocities, you justify them.
Through cheap whatabaoutism, you are rationalizing murder, torture, and human suffering happening, next door, right now, under your eyes
You have become "comfortably numb".
.. and it's not a civil war, but an egregious aggression of a sovereign country by an imperialist power.
You are the proof that propaganda is effective.
:(
The model of Yugoslavia did not work and is history. Precisely because cultures, traditions, ethnic groups and religions that did not fit together had - incorrectly - been united under one roof.
And from my point of view, this is exactly the reason why the Great Russian Empire does not work either and did not work in the past. Because many regions could not identify with the Russian soul. That's why the empire disintegrated. That is why Putin will not succeed in restoring it to its former greatness. And certainly not by attacking the countries that he would like to see as part of the great empire again. Now the rift is even deeper than it has ever been in history.
Zelensky admitted himself it in a 'Der Spiegel' interview. But it is general knowledge the Minsk agreements were never implemented by Ukraine. https://archive.is/Q5Eol (https://archive.is/Q5Eol)Yes, but what about....Here you are:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5)
7,186 civilians killed during "shock and awe". The US is more effective than Russia. It took them not even two months and Russia took about eight months to do it. Hats of for the USA.I did not gave permission to mingle into this war as an European civilian nor did I gave permission to mingle into political affairs before their civil war ten years back.
You only prove my point.
Instead of being horrified by those attrocities, you justify them.
Through cheap whatabaoutism, you are rationalizing murder, torture, and human suffering happening, next door, right now, under your eyes
You have become "comfortably numb".
.. and it's not a civil war, but an egregious aggression of a sovereign country by an imperialist power.
You are the proof that propaganda is effective.
:(
Why were the Minsk accords broken by Ukraine?
Where does the information come from that Ukraine has violated the Minsk Agreement?
Exactly. Yugoslavia did not work, neither will Ukraine as a whole. That was my point. Split it up like we did with Yugoslavia. I am not saying the eastern part should be part of Russia but give it, it's own country, which then can relate to which ever country it likes, as well as the western part. That will be the end solution to this war and stop the unnecessary loss of lives.But seriously, why intervene in Yugoslavia and split the country up in regions where ethnic people are in the majority? It seems to work (although they still hate each other) but at least it's kind of stable.Yes, but what about....Here you are:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5)
7,186 civilians killed during "shock and awe". The US is more effective than Russia. It took them not even two months and Russia took about eight months to do it. Hats of for the USA.I did not gave permission to mingle into this war as an European civilian nor did I gave permission to mingle into political affairs before their civil war ten years back.
You only prove my point.
Instead of being horrified by those attrocities, you justify them.
Through cheap whatabaoutism, you are rationalizing murder, torture, and human suffering happening, next door, right now, under your eyes
You have become "comfortably numb".
.. and it's not a civil war, but an egregious aggression of a sovereign country by an imperialist power.
You are the proof that propaganda is effective.
:(
The model of Yugoslavia did not work and is history. Precisely because cultures, traditions, ethnic groups and religions that did not fit together had - incorrectly - been united under one roof.
And from my point of view, this is exactly the reason why the Great Russian Empire does not work either and did not work in the past. Because many regions could not identify with the Russian soul. That's why the empire disintegrated. That is why Putin will not succeed in restoring it to its former greatness. And certainly not by attacking the countries that he would like to see as part of the great empire again. Now the rift is even deeper than it has ever been in history.
This is impossible because:+100
2022
8:33 p.m.: Russian President Vladimir Putin called Ukraine a "historic Russian territory" in a televised address to the nation Monday night. The country is "an integral part of its own history," the head of state said. Ukraine has no tradition of statehood, he added. The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, he said, put Russia in a difficult position. In its aftermath, he said, it was a mistake to allow Ukraine and other Soviet republics to become independent. "We gave these republics the right to leave the union without conditions," Putin said. "This is simply madness."
It is not about eastern Ukraine at all, but about all of Ukraine - and many other now independent states of the former Soviet Union.
In this respect, what you write cannot be a solution.
Most likely a false flag operation.Is not a fact. Why would the Russians shoot at their Kremlin? What's the point of this? Yes, Ukraine will not officially confirm this strike, but Ukraine does not officially confirm a lot of things. All these rumors, that it was the Russians themselves who allegedly hit, are made so that there is no shame on the whole world about what a leaky air defense the Russians have. All the "power" of the Russian army has always rested only on a myth. In fact, it turned out that this army knows how to fight only with women and children.
an air defense penetration attempt meant to humiliate the russians (with what purpose? For the memes, just to troll them?),Thus, the armed forces of Ukraine are probing the Russian air defense, learning to bypass it. Today there was a drone, and tomorrow there will be a drone with a lot of ammunition or a rocket.
Exactly. Yugoslavia did not work, neither will Ukraine as a whole. That was my point. Split it up like we did with Yugoslavia. I am not saying the eastern part should be part of Russia but give it, it's own country, which then can relate to which ever country it likes, as well as the western part. That will be the end solution to this war and stop the unnecessary loss of lives.But seriously, why intervene in Yugoslavia and split the country up in regions where ethnic people are in the majority? It seems to work (although they still hate each other) but at least it's kind of stable.Yes, but what about....Here you are:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5)
7,186 civilians killed during "shock and awe". The US is more effective than Russia. It took them not even two months and Russia took about eight months to do it. Hats of for the USA.I did not gave permission to mingle into this war as an European civilian nor did I gave permission to mingle into political affairs before their civil war ten years back.
You only prove my point.
Instead of being horrified by those attrocities, you justify them.
Through cheap whatabaoutism, you are rationalizing murder, torture, and human suffering happening, next door, right now, under your eyes
You have become "comfortably numb".
.. and it's not a civil war, but an egregious aggression of a sovereign country by an imperialist power.
You are the proof that propaganda is effective.
:(
The model of Yugoslavia did not work and is history. Precisely because cultures, traditions, ethnic groups and religions that did not fit together had - incorrectly - been united under one roof.
And from my point of view, this is exactly the reason why the Great Russian Empire does not work either and did not work in the past. Because many regions could not identify with the Russian soul. That's why the empire disintegrated. That is why Putin will not succeed in restoring it to its former greatness. And certainly not by attacking the countries that he would like to see as part of the great empire again. Now the rift is even deeper than it has ever been in history.
This is impossible because:
2022
8:33 p.m.: Russian President Vladimir Putin called Ukraine a "historic Russian territory" in a televised address to the nation Monday night. The country is "an integral part of its own history," the head of state said. Ukraine has no tradition of statehood, he added. The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, he said, put Russia in a difficult position. In its aftermath, he said, it was a mistake to allow Ukraine and other Soviet republics to become independent. "We gave these republics the right to leave the union without conditions," Putin said. "This is simply madness."
It is not about eastern Ukraine at all, but about all of Ukraine - and many other now independent states of the former Soviet Union.
In this respect, what you write cannot be a solution.
Unlike what Russia might say and want, in the end you have to come up with a solution to which all parties will agree. I am not sure if the river Dnjepr will be the dividing line but splitting up the country will most likely be the solution to end the conflict. The sooner the better, I guess. It has no sense pouring weapons into the conflict. Even if Ukraine, with help of NATO countries, will ever win, which is quite unlikely, you will still have resurgents in the east unless they were all slaughtered or expelled. But that would be ethnic cleansing or not? Each day that people do not move to the negotiation table more lives will be unnecessary lost. And not everybody has the same political agenda here.
And this is the propagada you sadly believe and propagate further ::)I think he's just working off the money the Russians are paying him. Business as usual.
russia has no right to have any say in re-drawing the borders of any sovereign country. Not Ukraine, not Georgia, not Moldova, not the Baltic countries, not Poland nor Romania. Not even Belarus.As long as the Russian empire exists, all European countries are under the threat of occupation. The Russians have already put forward an ultimatum to NATO, so that NATO gets out on the borders of the 40s of the last century. I do not see the difference between Russia and Nazi Germany in the 30s of the last century.
Really Zero? An elected (you can question if the election was fair or not) was ousted by a revolt supported by the EU and the USA. Those powers openly mingled in the sovereign affairs of a country. Fine, the western part didn't want to deal with Russia anymore and wanted to join the West. I can acknowledge that, I live there as well. But there were surely people in the east that were not pleased with this coup/uprising. Don't they have a say in this? They were and are part of the same country as well. Or were they all held at gunpoint by the russians? C'mon Zero. That is not what happened. If so, why on earth would Germany and France have arranged the Minsk agreements in the first place? Are they all on the side of Russia? Can't follow your reasoning anymore.
Unlike what Russia might say and want, in the end you have to come up with a solution to which all parties will agree. I am not sure if the river Dnjepr will be the dividing line but splitting up the country will most likely be the solution to end the conflict. The sooner the better, I guess. It has no sense pouring weapons into the conflict. Even if Ukraine, with help of NATO countries, will ever win, which is quite unlikely, you will still have resurgents in the east unless they were all slaughtered or expelled. But that would be ethnic cleansing or not? Each day that people do not move to the negotiation table more lives will be unnecessary lost. And not everybody has the same political agenda here.
russia has no right to have any say in re-drawing the borders of any sovereign country. Not Ukraine, not Georgia, not Moldova, not the Baltic countries, not Poland nor Romania. Not even Belarus.
There is and there was NO civil war, in eastern Ukraine. There were russian troops with no insignia and a bunch of russian provocateurs.
It was an invasion by an imperialist power from the very begining, when their puppet president was toppled and Ukraine stopped being a russian colony/vassal.
This is why the Minsk agreement explicitly asked for the withdrawal of foreign troops, point russia failed to comply with, because they claimed they had no troops there.
Instead, they cynically accused Ukraine for not compying with the agreement. :o
And this is the propagada you sadly believe and propagate further ::)
PS. Minsk agreement reminder:
9. Restoration of full control of the state border by the government of Ukraine.
10. Withdrawal of all foreign armed formations, military equipment and mercenaries
Edit: This old british comedy is doing a good job in explaining the russian "salami tactics" applied in Ukraine:
https://youtu.be/o861Ka9TtT4
Exactly. Yugoslavia did not work, neither will Ukraine as a whole. That was my point. Split it up like we did with Yugoslavia. I am not saying the eastern part should be part of Russia but give it, it's own country, which then can relate to which ever country it likes, as well as the western part. That will be the end solution to this war and stop the unnecessary loss of lives.But seriously, why intervene in Yugoslavia and split the country up in regions where ethnic people are in the majority? It seems to work (although they still hate each other) but at least it's kind of stable.Yes, but what about....Here you are:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5)
7,186 civilians killed during "shock and awe". The US is more effective than Russia. It took them not even two months and Russia took about eight months to do it. Hats of for the USA.I did not gave permission to mingle into this war as an European civilian nor did I gave permission to mingle into political affairs before their civil war ten years back.
You only prove my point.
Instead of being horrified by those attrocities, you justify them.
Through cheap whatabaoutism, you are rationalizing murder, torture, and human suffering happening, next door, right now, under your eyes
You have become "comfortably numb".
.. and it's not a civil war, but an egregious aggression of a sovereign country by an imperialist power.
You are the proof that propaganda is effective.
:(
The model of Yugoslavia did not work and is history. Precisely because cultures, traditions, ethnic groups and religions that did not fit together had - incorrectly - been united under one roof.
And from my point of view, this is exactly the reason why the Great Russian Empire does not work either and did not work in the past. Because many regions could not identify with the Russian soul. That's why the empire disintegrated. That is why Putin will not succeed in restoring it to its former greatness. And certainly not by attacking the countries that he would like to see as part of the great empire again. Now the rift is even deeper than it has ever been in history.
This is impossible because:
2022
8:33 p.m.: Russian President Vladimir Putin called Ukraine a "historic Russian territory" in a televised address to the nation Monday night. The country is "an integral part of its own history," the head of state said. Ukraine has no tradition of statehood, he added. The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, he said, put Russia in a difficult position. In its aftermath, he said, it was a mistake to allow Ukraine and other Soviet republics to become independent. "We gave these republics the right to leave the union without conditions," Putin said. "This is simply madness."
It is not about eastern Ukraine at all, but about all of Ukraine - and many other now independent states of the former Soviet Union.
In this respect, what you write cannot be a solution.
Unlike what Russia might say and want, in the end you have to come up with a solution to which all parties will agree. I am not sure if the river Dnjepr will be the dividing line but splitting up the country will most likely be the solution to end the conflict. The sooner the better, I guess. It has no sense pouring weapons into the conflict. Even if Ukraine, with help of NATO countries, will ever win, which is quite unlikely, you will still have resurgents in the east unless they were all slaughtered or expelled. But that would be ethnic cleansing or not? Each day that people do not move to the negotiation table more lives will be unnecessary lost. And not everybody has the same political agenda here.
Wilm, you are not getting my point. Yugoslavia as one country did not work. Ukraine as one country will not work either. Split it up to solve it, is what I am saying (not make it part of Russia).Exactly. Yugoslavia did not work, neither will Ukraine as a whole. That was my point. Split it up like we did with Yugoslavia. I am not saying the eastern part should be part of Russia but give it, it's own country, which then can relate to which ever country it likes, as well as the western part. That will be the end solution to this war and stop the unnecessary loss of lives.But seriously, why intervene in Yugoslavia and split the country up in regions where ethnic people are in the majority? It seems to work (although they still hate each other) but at least it's kind of stable.Yes, but what about....Here you are:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5)
7,186 civilians killed during "shock and awe". The US is more effective than Russia. It took them not even two months and Russia took about eight months to do it. Hats of for the USA.I did not gave permission to mingle into this war as an European civilian nor did I gave permission to mingle into political affairs before their civil war ten years back.
You only prove my point.
Instead of being horrified by those attrocities, you justify them.
Through cheap whatabaoutism, you are rationalizing murder, torture, and human suffering happening, next door, right now, under your eyes
You have become "comfortably numb".
.. and it's not a civil war, but an egregious aggression of a sovereign country by an imperialist power.
You are the proof that propaganda is effective.
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The model of Yugoslavia did not work and is history. Precisely because cultures, traditions, ethnic groups and religions that did not fit together had - incorrectly - been united under one roof.
And from my point of view, this is exactly the reason why the Great Russian Empire does not work either and did not work in the past. Because many regions could not identify with the Russian soul. That's why the empire disintegrated. That is why Putin will not succeed in restoring it to its former greatness. And certainly not by attacking the countries that he would like to see as part of the great empire again. Now the rift is even deeper than it has ever been in history.
This is impossible because:
2022
8:33 p.m.: Russian President Vladimir Putin called Ukraine a "historic Russian territory" in a televised address to the nation Monday night. The country is "an integral part of its own history," the head of state said. Ukraine has no tradition of statehood, he added. The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, he said, put Russia in a difficult position. In its aftermath, he said, it was a mistake to allow Ukraine and other Soviet republics to become independent. "We gave these republics the right to leave the union without conditions," Putin said. "This is simply madness."
It is not about eastern Ukraine at all, but about all of Ukraine - and many other now independent states of the former Soviet Union.
In this respect, what you write cannot be a solution.
Unlike what Russia might say and want, in the end you have to come up with a solution to which all parties will agree. I am not sure if the river Dnjepr will be the dividing line but splitting up the country will most likely be the solution to end the conflict. The sooner the better, I guess. It has no sense pouring weapons into the conflict. Even if Ukraine, with help of NATO countries, will ever win, which is quite unlikely, you will still have resurgents in the east unless they were all slaughtered or expelled. But that would be ethnic cleansing or not? Each day that people do not move to the negotiation table more lives will be unnecessary lost. And not everybody has the same political agenda here.
The ethnic cleansing operations are already underway. Ukrainian children are being abducted and handed over to Russian families. Do you have children? Do you have the slightest idea what this means?
And, as can be seen from Putin's statement, the Dnieper is not something that is up for discussion, but the Soviet Union at the size it was before 1991.
Which was what Yugoslavia was - namely a potpourri of the most diverse ethnicities, cultures, traditions and religions. Which also then - as in Yugoslavia - did not work and will not work. As far as Yugoslavia is concerned, you have already admitted that yourself.
Really Zero? An elected (you can question if the election was fair or not) was ousted by a revolt supported by the EU and the USA. Those powers openly mingled in the sovereign affairs of a country. Fine, the western part didn't want to deal with Russia anymore and wanted to join the West. I can acknowledge that, I live there as well. But there were surely people in the east that were not pleased with this coup/uprising. Don't they have a say in this? They were and are part of the same country as well. Or were they all held at gunpoint by the russians? C'mon Zero. That is not what happened. If so, why on earth would Germany and France have arranged the Minsk agreements in the first place? Are they all on the side of Russia? Can't follow your reasoning anymore.
Unlike what Russia might say and want, in the end you have to come up with a solution to which all parties will agree. I am not sure if the river Dnjepr will be the dividing line but splitting up the country will most likely be the solution to end the conflict. The sooner the better, I guess. It has no sense pouring weapons into the conflict. Even if Ukraine, with help of NATO countries, will ever win, which is quite unlikely, you will still have resurgents in the east unless they were all slaughtered or expelled. But that would be ethnic cleansing or not? Each day that people do not move to the negotiation table more lives will be unnecessary lost. And not everybody has the same political agenda here.
russia has no right to have any say in re-drawing the borders of any sovereign country. Not Ukraine, not Georgia, not Moldova, not the Baltic countries, not Poland nor Romania. Not even Belarus.
There is and there was NO civil war, in eastern Ukraine. There were russian troops with no insignia and a bunch of russian provocateurs.
It was an invasion by an imperialist power from the very begining, when their puppet president was toppled and Ukraine stopped being a russian colony/vassal.
This is why the Minsk agreement explicitly asked for the withdrawal of foreign troops, point russia failed to comply with, because they claimed they had no troops there.
Instead, they cynically accused Ukraine for not compying with the agreement. :o
And this is the propagada you sadly believe and propagate further ::)
PS. Minsk agreement reminder:
9. Restoration of full control of the state border by the government of Ukraine.
10. Withdrawal of all foreign armed formations, military equipment and mercenaries
Edit: This old british comedy is doing a good job in explaining the russian "salami tactics" applied in Ukraine:
https://youtu.be/o861Ka9TtT4
I understand that the USA has no interest in ending this war soon because they have benefits in prolonging it. But in the end you will have to find a solution to a problem that was already there before Russia invaded Ukraine in the first place. I am not agreeing with the war or the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine but also not with the mingling ten years ago by the EU and the USA and that people in the east of Ukraine have been totally disregarded since then. It is not that Russia did not complain about this for many years. Still not an excuse for what they are doing now but western countries ignoring these concerns an waiving them away are guilty here as well. I am just practical here and looking at the facts and how they are played out.
And it surprises me that nobody is looking at peace negotiations here and can only think of pouring more weapons in this war. It is probably not in their interest. Does this help the Ukranian people, west or east?
Really Zero? An elected (you can question if the election was fair or not) was ousted by a revolt supported by the EU and the USA. Those powers openly mingled in the sovereign affairs of a country. Fine, the western part didn't want to deal with Russia anymore and wanted to join the West. I can acknowledge that, I live there as well. But there were surely people in the east that were not pleased with this coup/uprising. Don't they have a say in this? They were and are part of the same country as well. Or were they all held at gunpoint by the russians? C'mon Zero. That is not what happened. If so, why on earth would Germany and France have arranged the Minsk agreements in the first place? Are they all on the side of Russia? Can't follow your reasoning anymore.
Unlike what Russia might say and want, in the end you have to come up with a solution to which all parties will agree. I am not sure if the river Dnjepr will be the dividing line but splitting up the country will most likely be the solution to end the conflict. The sooner the better, I guess. It has no sense pouring weapons into the conflict. Even if Ukraine, with help of NATO countries, will ever win, which is quite unlikely, you will still have resurgents in the east unless they were all slaughtered or expelled. But that would be ethnic cleansing or not? Each day that people do not move to the negotiation table more lives will be unnecessary lost. And not everybody has the same political agenda here.
russia has no right to have any say in re-drawing the borders of any sovereign country. Not Ukraine, not Georgia, not Moldova, not the Baltic countries, not Poland nor Romania. Not even Belarus.
There is and there was NO civil war, in eastern Ukraine. There were russian troops with no insignia and a bunch of russian provocateurs.
It was an invasion by an imperialist power from the very begining, when their puppet president was toppled and Ukraine stopped being a russian colony/vassal.
This is why the Minsk agreement explicitly asked for the withdrawal of foreign troops, point russia failed to comply with, because they claimed they had no troops there.
Instead, they cynically accused Ukraine for not compying with the agreement. :o
And this is the propagada you sadly believe and propagate further ::)
PS. Minsk agreement reminder:
9. Restoration of full control of the state border by the government of Ukraine.
10. Withdrawal of all foreign armed formations, military equipment and mercenaries
Edit: This old british comedy is doing a good job in explaining the russian "salami tactics" applied in Ukraine:
https://youtu.be/o861Ka9TtT4
I understand that the USA has no interest in ending this war soon because they have benefits in prolonging it. But in the end you will have to find a solution to a problem that was already there before Russia invaded Ukraine in the first place. I am not agreeing with the war or the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine but also not with the mingling ten years ago by the EU and the USA and that people in the east of Ukraine have been totally disregarded since then. It is not that Russia did not complain about this for many years. Still not an excuse for what they are doing now but western countries ignoring these concerns an waiving them away are guilty here as well. I am just practical here and looking at the facts and how they are played out.
And it surprises me that nobody is looking at peace negotiations here and can only think of pouring more weapons in this war. It is probably not in their interest. Does this help the Ukranian people, west or east?
Yes, really. That's exactly what happened.
Popular revolts happen even in democratic countries leading to government resignations. Why are you surprised that a revolt happend in a colony?
Moreover, Yanukovych, the puppet president, unharmed, decided to flee to russia (where else?)
With no stable Ukrainian government in place, russia seized the opportunity and annexed Crimea (breaking the promise made 10 years prior when they signed the Budapest memorandum)
Then separatists directed and financed by the russian security services, occupied several government buildings in Donbas (remember the more recent Capitol insurection, in the USA?)
After the Ukrainian government restored order, russia changed tactics and initiated the well know covert invasion, sending in soldiers with no insignia, weapons and starting the real war (thus not a civil war as you want to believe).
Read the Minsk agreement properly, and you will see that there was a very large autonomy granted to the eastern provinces, as long as the Ukraine integrity was secured and all russian troops withdrawn. That's what Merkel and Hollande helped mediating.
But russia, as usual, never kept its word, maintaining its troops in the occupied territories, and expanding its occupation even further, through the so called "special operation".
Yep, what was a "civil war", now it's a only a "special operation". Get it? ::)
But russia, as usual, never kept its word, maintaining its troops in the occupied territories, and expanding its occupation even further, through the so called "special operation".Any agreements with Russia are never even worth the paper on which they are written.
Wilm, you are not getting my point. Yugoslavia as one country did not work. Ukraine as one country will not work either. Split it up to solve it, is what I am saying (not make it part of Russia).Exactly. Yugoslavia did not work, neither will Ukraine as a whole. That was my point. Split it up like we did with Yugoslavia. I am not saying the eastern part should be part of Russia but give it, it's own country, which then can relate to which ever country it likes, as well as the western part. That will be the end solution to this war and stop the unnecessary loss of lives.But seriously, why intervene in Yugoslavia and split the country up in regions where ethnic people are in the majority? It seems to work (although they still hate each other) but at least it's kind of stable.Yes, but what about....Here you are:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+baghdad+after+bombing+by+usa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP7faYstL-AhX5y7sIHbxlAHYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1536&bih=761&dpr=2.5)
7,186 civilians killed during "shock and awe". The US is more effective than Russia. It took them not even two months and Russia took about eight months to do it. Hats of for the USA.I did not gave permission to mingle into this war as an European civilian nor did I gave permission to mingle into political affairs before their civil war ten years back.
You only prove my point.
Instead of being horrified by those attrocities, you justify them.
Through cheap whatabaoutism, you are rationalizing murder, torture, and human suffering happening, next door, right now, under your eyes
You have become "comfortably numb".
.. and it's not a civil war, but an egregious aggression of a sovereign country by an imperialist power.
You are the proof that propaganda is effective.
:(
The model of Yugoslavia did not work and is history. Precisely because cultures, traditions, ethnic groups and religions that did not fit together had - incorrectly - been united under one roof.
And from my point of view, this is exactly the reason why the Great Russian Empire does not work either and did not work in the past. Because many regions could not identify with the Russian soul. That's why the empire disintegrated. That is why Putin will not succeed in restoring it to its former greatness. And certainly not by attacking the countries that he would like to see as part of the great empire again. Now the rift is even deeper than it has ever been in history.
This is impossible because:
2022
8:33 p.m.: Russian President Vladimir Putin called Ukraine a "historic Russian territory" in a televised address to the nation Monday night. The country is "an integral part of its own history," the head of state said. Ukraine has no tradition of statehood, he added. The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, he said, put Russia in a difficult position. In its aftermath, he said, it was a mistake to allow Ukraine and other Soviet republics to become independent. "We gave these republics the right to leave the union without conditions," Putin said. "This is simply madness."
It is not about eastern Ukraine at all, but about all of Ukraine - and many other now independent states of the former Soviet Union.
In this respect, what you write cannot be a solution.
Unlike what Russia might say and want, in the end you have to come up with a solution to which all parties will agree. I am not sure if the river Dnjepr will be the dividing line but splitting up the country will most likely be the solution to end the conflict. The sooner the better, I guess. It has no sense pouring weapons into the conflict. Even if Ukraine, with help of NATO countries, will ever win, which is quite unlikely, you will still have resurgents in the east unless they were all slaughtered or expelled. But that would be ethnic cleansing or not? Each day that people do not move to the negotiation table more lives will be unnecessary lost. And not everybody has the same political agenda here.
The ethnic cleansing operations are already underway. Ukrainian children are being abducted and handed over to Russian families. Do you have children? Do you have the slightest idea what this means?
And, as can be seen from Putin's statement, the Dnieper is not something that is up for discussion, but the Soviet Union at the size it was before 1991.
Which was what Yugoslavia was - namely a potpourri of the most diverse ethnicities, cultures, traditions and religions. Which also then - as in Yugoslavia - did not work and will not work. As far as Yugoslavia is concerned, you have already admitted that yourself.
But I guess I am on my own here and everybody has to believe that Ukraine is one people, there was nothing going on before Russia invaded it and the EU and USA are only handling in the interest of humankind. So, enough then. Also, on this subject, I will not bother you anymore. We will see how things will evolve and if the pressure cooker will explode or someone will finally just takes the lit off to calm things down again. I hope people come to their senses.
It is not in Russia's interest to accept the Donbas and Luhansk regions as autonomous regions, even if Ukraine would agree to it. From my point of view, Putin's words are clear enough. And so are the deeds.Russia has already occupied and annexed these regions, 2/3 of these regions. And not only these areas, but also Zaporozhye, Kherson. The armed forces of Ukraine are trying to expel Russian fascists from Ukrainian soil.
Of course, I have also discussed this often enough in my circle of friends, that a referendum of these regions under international supervision could possibly have eliminated the problem.Your problem is that you were very much deceived in Germany under Merkel. All that you were shown and told on TV were tricks, illusions, myths. But you were not told that these are tricks. You turned out to be a spectator in a theater in which a magician performs, but at the same time you were not told that these were tricks and you took everything for truth and reality.
But all Putin's statements and deeds clearly speak against the fact that this could contribute to conflict resolution. It would also do nothing to make Putin feel safe from NATO's approach, which is the argument he keeps using.Link to NATO is just a pretext to start a war against democracy.
But that is precisely the paradox: Putin complains that NATO is getting closer. But in the past, NATO and the Warsaw Pact countries were right next to each other. Now, with Finland's accession, we are moving closer than ever to that state again. And this, although Finland never really wanted this.This is all because Russia does not act independently in the war against democracy. There is also China, North Korea, Iran. Russia does only a certain part in this war. NATO is just an informational pretext, nothing more.
Putin's invasion of Ukraine has achieved exactly the opposite of what he claimed to want.
More and more enemies are being created in the former Soviet empire. The Ukrainians will never be able to forget what is currently happening for many many decades. The rift between Russia and Ukraine is now deeper than it has ever been.Similar events and troubles have already happened to Ukrainians. The same happened 300 years ago, the same happened in 1917-1920 and 1940-1960. If the Russians occupy Ukraine, they will shoot everyone who is against the Russians, they will change the history in the textbooks. Russia, for the entire time of its existence, has only been doing what is rewriting history for itself. All Russian history in Russian textbooks is a lie.
And even if Putin "wins" this warIf Trump does not come to power in the US, the Russians will not win this war. But now they have success, the Ukrainian Crimea has been occupied, and the east and southeast of Ukraine have been occupied.
I'll clear something up.
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Your problem is that you were very much deceived in Germany under Merkel. All that you were shown and told on TV were tricks, illusions, myths. But you were not told that these are tricks. You turned out to be a spectator in a theater in which a magician performs, but at the same time you were not told that these were tricks and you took everything for truth and reality.
When discussing such sensitive issues, one should refrain from such condescending and belittling remarks.You misunderstood me, I do not want to offend or insult Wilm in any way. I just wrote what Wilm, in my opinion, did not know and did not guess.
I would be interested to know where you get your Merkel phobia from and what top-secret information and sources you have about her Russian agent life?
Old news, a few weeks old.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/21/world/asia/russia-belgorod-bomb.html?searchResultPosition=2 (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/21/world/asia/russia-belgorod-bomb.html?searchResultPosition=2)
There is information that the Russians planned to bomb houses in their city. The goal was to accuse Ukraine of this act of terrorism.
Terrorist country = terrorist methods.
No, I meant the dropping of aerial bombs by a Russian aircraft on the Russian city of Belgorod. Bombs fell next to high-rise buildings. I have provided a link to the article.Old news, a few weeks old.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/21/world/asia/russia-belgorod-bomb.html?searchResultPosition=2 (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/21/world/asia/russia-belgorod-bomb.html?searchResultPosition=2)
There is information that the Russians planned to bomb houses in their city. The goal was to accuse Ukraine of this act of terrorism.
Terrorist country = terrorist methods.
You mean like a faked drone attack on The Kremlin at 2AM, that someone just happened to be recording? And then the so called bombs, never got close to the building and looked like fireworks? Then accused the Ukraine and a day later the US, saying it was a plot to kill Putin. Something I learned from this: Although the Kremlin is the president's official residence, Putin doesn't actually live there.
False Flag attack.
Armed forces of Ukraine assault entrenchments with Russian occupiers near the city of Bakhmut. Assault was successful. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA6zyFwpGZw&t=1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA6zyFwpGZw&t=1)
I'll clear something up.
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Wilm, if I did not write something clearly in English, write, and I will try to write more clearly.
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This video of the battle is not yet very risky, here the soldiers acted skillfully, so there were no losses.Armed forces of Ukraine assault entrenchments with Russian occupiers near the city of Bakhmut. Assault was successful. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA6zyFwpGZw&t=1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA6zyFwpGZw&t=1)
Wow, this is hard to watch, let alone be there, facing death every second...
True heroes!
The russian empire is still in place with its colonial and imperialist agenda, dominating 190 ethnic groups (Tatars, Chechens, Bashkirs, Chuvash, Avars, Dargins, Kazakhs, etc...), many of which are still living in well defined regions, despite the aggressive ethnic cleansing, deportation and russification policies they were subject to.
russia has no right to have any say in re-drawing the borders of any sovereign country. Not Ukraine, not Georgia, not Moldova, not the Baltic countries, not Poland nor Romania. Not even Belarus.
How was that not re-drawing the borders and what is the difference between Kosovo being stolen from Serbia and Russia trying to do the same ?The difference is huge. You are comparing uncomparable events. You don't seem to understand politics and history at all. What country are you from?
Why don't you give examples of anything before the common era? When you write, indicate at least a century about which you write. I understand that mentally you live in the Middle Ages, and live according to the laws of the barbarians. But open your window and look at the calendar and you will know that it is the 21st century on planet Earth.
The russian empire is still in place with its colonial and imperialist agenda, dominating 190 ethnic groups (Tatars, Chechens, Bashkirs, Chuvash, Avars, Dargins, Kazakhs, etc...), many of which are still living in well defined regions, despite the aggressive ethnic cleansing, deportation and russification policies they were subject to.
As I recall Pequot, Mohegan, Massachusetts...were just a few of those that were completely extinct.
I wonder how are the rest doing nowadays and when are they getting their land back ?
I mean 56 millions people killed ( more than whole Europe population at the time ) is also not a thing you can just wipe under the carpet. Killing 90% of homeland population and stealing their land is everything but something to ignore.
What a courageous defense, indeed!Glory to the heroes! Death enemies!
But I also liked the discipline of that platoon on your first clip, and the great commander, who made sure the risks are minimized (while still facing death every second), and at the same time pushed his team ahead, relentlessly.
I have the feeling that this is how the war is won, rather than with wreckless Rambos and Hollywood-type superheroes.
Slava Ukraini!
2/3 of the population of Russia (if not all 90%) support Putin and the killing of Ukrainians.It looks like you took these figures from "Russian propaganda"). In fact, in my environment, I see absolutely the opposite picture. Of course, my scientific environment is very specific, but nevertheless, I observe a different situation from the inside. None of my close friends and relatives are happy with the current situation and human deaths.
I think that Russian stockers should be banned from all stocks so that they do not finance the terrorist and fascist regime.Could it be more effective to ban Biden for buying Russian uranium? The share of Russia in the supply of uranium for the needs of the US nuclear power industry is about 20%. This is not comparable to the small money from taxes on Russian stockers (6% tax on the self-employed, which goes to the regional budget at the place of residence).
Hmm.2/3 of the population of Russia (if not all 90%) support Putin and the killing of Ukrainians.It looks like you took these figures from "Russian propaganda"). In fact, in my environment, I see absolutely the opposite picture. Of course, my scientific environment is very specific, but nevertheless, I observe a different situation from the inside. None of my close friends and relatives are happy with the current situation and human deaths.I think that Russian stockers should be banned from all stocks so that they do not finance the terrorist and fascist regime.Could it be more effective to ban Biden for buying Russian uranium? The share of Russia in the supply of uranium for the needs of the US nuclear power industry is about 20%. This is not comparable to the small money from taxes on Russian stockers (6% tax on the self-employed, which goes to the regional budget at the place of residence).
I have spoken.
Canadian regulators have launched a public consultation on calls to ban Fox News from cable packages after receiving complaints saying the network has aired hateful content about LGBTQ2S+ people.
The public consultation, which began earlier this month, was triggered by an open letter from advocacy group Egale Canada.
"People in Canada deserve to know that the news broadcast on Canadian airwaves is reliable and objective, and marginalized groups must be protected from malicious propaganda," the group's executive director Helen Kennedy wrote.
We have a DHL parcel carrier. My favorite parcel carrier. He is Russian, comes from the region north of Moscow and is a very likeable, friendly and hardworking young man.In fact, there is nothing good in this story. Ukraine is not at war with Putin, Ukraine is at war with the Russian people. Not Putin came to Ukraine, and not Putin kills Ukrainian women and children. It is the Russian people who kill Ukrainians.
About 2 months ago he did not come alone, but had a new employee with him, whom he had to train. It turned out in the conversation that the young man was from Ukraine.
I asked them both if there were any problems between them. They laughed and hugged each other to prove that there were no problems.
These are pictures that I would like to see in the media. Maybe then it would become clear that not a people, but often only parts of a people are the problem.
"Canadian regulator launches public consultation on banning Fox News from cable packages"Great news! This channel is the mouthpiece of Russian propaganda in America, and not only Russian. It would be even better if this channel were closed in the US as well.
"Canadian regulator launches public consultation on banning Fox News from cable packages"Great news! This channel is the mouthpiece of Russian propaganda in America, and not only Russian. It would be even better if this channel were closed in the US as well.
2/3 of the population of Russia (if not all 90%) support Putin and the killing of Ukrainians.It looks like you took these figures from "Russian propaganda"). In fact, in my environment, I see absolutely the opposite picture. Of course, my scientific environment is very specific, but nevertheless, I observe a different situation from the inside. None of my close friends and relatives are happy with the current situation and human deaths.I think that Russian stockers should be banned from all stocks so that they do not finance the terrorist and fascist regime.Could it be more effective to ban Biden for buying Russian uranium? The share of Russia in the supply of uranium for the needs of the US nuclear power industry is about 20%. This is not comparable to the small money from taxes on Russian stockers (6% tax on the self-employed, which goes to the regional budget at the place of residence).
I have spoken.
But if I were Russian and against the war, I would do everything I could to get that across to the rest of the world. I know that this is not easy.There are no normal or "good" Russians, it's a myth that they exist. All these "good" Russians fail at the 5 questions I asked above. This is a test of a person's democracy. Almost all Russians are happy with Putin's results, but some just don't like the methods. This is the so-called "opposition" there.
If a channel promotes fascism, violence, homophobia, racism, then how can a constitution protect such a channel from justice?"Canadian regulator launches public consultation on banning Fox News from cable packages"Great news! This channel is the mouthpiece of Russian propaganda in America, and not only Russian. It would be even better if this channel were closed in the US as well.
Not sure whether they can ban it in America because of the USA 1st Amendment (where the government cannot interfere with the expression of free speech, free press, etc), which we discussed earlier. Canada, of course, does not have that first amendment.
But depending on how much income Fox News makes from Canada, it may make them more accountable. Like I said, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
But if I were Russian and against the war, I would do everything I could to get that across to the rest of the world. I know that this is not easy.There are no normal or "good" Russians, it's a myth that they exist. All these "good" Russians fail at the 5 questions I asked above. This is a test of a person's democracy. Almost all Russians are happy with Putin's results, but some just don't like the methods. This is the so-called "opposition" there.
Any normal person - a citizen of the Russian Federation, regardless of his nationality, would have either left a fascist country a long time ago or joined partisans and blew up military trains, fuel depots, warehouses with fuel, ammunition, or would have joined the Ukrainian army and fought on the battlefield with the Russian fascism. By the way, not much, but there are Russians who left Russia and joined the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
But if I were Russian and against the war, I would do everything I could to get that across to the rest of the world. I know that this is not easy.There are no normal or "good" Russians, it's a myth that they exist. All these "good" Russians fail at the 5 questions I asked above. This is a test of a person's democracy. Almost all Russians are happy with Putin's results, but some just don't like the methods. This is the so-called "opposition" there.
Any normal person - a citizen of the Russian Federation, regardless of his nationality, would have either left a fascist country a long time ago or joined partisans and blew up military trains, fuel depots, warehouses with fuel, ammunition, or would have joined the Ukrainian army and fought on the battlefield with the Russian fascism. By the way, not much, but there are Russians who left Russia and joined the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
stocker2014:Sorry, but the world is not like that! I hate this pigeonholing, because it is exactly what is not true.Not all Germans are *, not all soccer fans are hooligans, not all US Americans are fat and not all Russians are monsters. And not all Ukrainians are nice people either.I am very sure that a great many people in Russia would wish with all their hearts that the war in Ukraine had never taken place.
But if I were Russian and against the war, I would do everything I could to get that across to the rest of the world. I know that this is not easy.There are no normal or "good" Russians, it's a myth that they exist. All these "good" Russians fail at the 5 questions I asked above. This is a test of a person's democracy. Almost all Russians are happy with Putin's results, but some just don't like the methods. This is the so-called "opposition" there.
Any normal person - a citizen of the Russian Federation, regardless of his nationality, would have either left a fascist country a long time ago or joined partisans and blew up military trains, fuel depots, warehouses with fuel, ammunition, or would have joined the Ukrainian army and fought on the battlefield with the Russian fascism. By the way, not much, but there are Russians who left Russia and joined the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
stocker2014:Sorry, but the world is not like that! I hate this pigeonholing, because it is exactly what is not true.Not all Germans are *, not all soccer fans are hooligans, not all US Americans are fat and not all Russians are monsters. And not all Ukrainians are nice people either.I am very sure that a great many people in Russia would wish with all their hearts that the war in Ukraine had never taken place.
Wilm, in principle I'm right there with you - concerning other nationalities ;)
I would still like to know what makes Russians tick.
I think that none of us plans to travel to Russia to meet Russians. But you don't have to go that far.
Russians have rediscovered their love of travel during the war. In Thailand, Turkey, Sri Lanka, UAE and Egypt, Russian tourist numbers are almost at normal levels.
Indonesia is probably just overrun, and there they have restricted visas for Russians again.
Here 2 quotations from Indonesian newspapers:
"In Bali, 22,500 Russians arrived in January 2023, making them the second most frequent visitors after Australians. Some of them are a nuisance in their own right. They get drunk and make a ruckus, dress inappropriately for temple visits, post pictures on social media of themselves showing their bare behinds at holy sites, ride motorcycles in shorts and T-shirts, fall and cause traffic accidents."
"When we receive reports of foreigners behaving badly, they are almost always Russians," a local police officer in the city of Kuta told CNN, declining to be named because of the sensitivity of the issue."
And on the start of the war from Egypt from ukrainian tourist:
"On the first day of the war, "in the hotel you could see exactly who was from Ukraine and who was from Russia," Volodimir Bilov said. "The Ukrainians were crying, sitting by the phone, following news, trying to contact family. The Russians, on the other hand, were in high spirits. They were singing, dancing and enjoying life. I heard from them things like: Our army will show the Ukrainians. Ukraine will soon be ours. I am very angry with Russia and with the Russians. I will never forgive them, even my son will not forgive them."
You are an idealist. And that's not bad.But if I were Russian and against the war, I would do everything I could to get that across to the rest of the world. I know that this is not easy.There are no normal or "good" Russians, it's a myth that they exist. All these "good" Russians fail at the 5 questions I asked above. This is a test of a person's democracy. Almost all Russians are happy with Putin's results, but some just don't like the methods. This is the so-called "opposition" there.
Any normal person - a citizen of the Russian Federation, regardless of his nationality, would have either left a fascist country a long time ago or joined partisans and blew up military trains, fuel depots, warehouses with fuel, ammunition, or would have joined the Ukrainian army and fought on the battlefield with the Russian fascism. By the way, not much, but there are Russians who left Russia and joined the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
stocker2014:Sorry, but the world is not like that! I hate this pigeonholing, because it is exactly what is not true.Not all Germans are *, not all soccer fans are hooligans, not all US Americans are fat and not all Russians are monsters. And not all Ukrainians are nice people either.I am very sure that a great many people in Russia would wish with all their hearts that the war in Ukraine had never taken place.
But that certainly doesn't apply across the board to all Russians - that's what I was trying to say.Russia as it is.
Well, as I already wrote, in Russia there are only two cities in which luxury is maintained for advertising and lies, but in other cities everything is exactly as in the photo.Exactly!))
And let me reiterate that WWII didn't end in 1945, but in 1989, when its consequences were nullified and the former soviet colonies in Eastern Europe regained their freedom.+100
In recent decades, anti-American sentiments have been very strong in the EU. As I understand it, France and Germany are promoting them. Obviously, they are being promoted not without the help of the KGB (FSB) and Russian trolls. The meaning of these sentiments is that allegedly: the EU should be independent of the United States (is the EU dependent?), the EU does not need multiculturalism, there should be some kind of second European "NATO". These are all very bad trends, as a result of these sentiments, many citizens of the eastern EU countries accuse the US of Russia attacking Ukraine and that the US is to blame for everything. What should be done with this crap. Because a position based on the fact that Russia is like a good country, and the US is a bad country, will not lead the EU to anything good.
Yes, the US is the guarantor of the Budapest Memorandum, and I don't understand why American soldiers are not fighting in Ukraine. Yes, the US should not have allowed the Russians to boost their economy, which led to the strengthening of their fascist regime. But, all this should be understood by the citizens of the EU, and not stupidly blame the United States.
In recent decades, anti-American sentiments have been very strong in the EU. As I understand it, France and Germany are promoting them. Obviously, they are being promoted not without the help of the KGB (FSB) and Russian trolls. The meaning of these sentiments is that allegedly: the EU should be independent of the United States (is the EU dependent?), the EU does not need multiculturalism, there should be some kind of second European "NATO". These are all very bad trends, as a result of these sentiments, many citizens of the eastern EU countries accuse the US of Russia attacking Ukraine and that the US is to blame for everything. What should be done with this crap. Because a position based on the fact that Russia is like a good country, and the US is a bad country, will not lead the EU to anything good.
Yes, the US is the guarantor of the Budapest Memorandum, and I don't understand why American soldiers are not fighting in Ukraine. Yes, the US should not have allowed the Russians to boost their economy, which led to the strengthening of their fascist regime. But, all this should be understood by the citizens of the EU, and not stupidly blame the United States.
To be honest the US made many mistakes (especially during the Trump administration, but not only) promoting an aggressive and arrogant "American exceptionalism" and isolationism.And you can write more details here. What do you specifically mean. The same Trump just demanded large deductions of money from the EU countries. The demands are fair, why should the US cover 70% of NATO's expenses? Who needs NATO the most - the US or European countries?
What matters is that in this matter the US (for now), UK, Canada, Australia and a large majority of the EU (bar Hungary and Austria) are on the right side of the history.At the expense of France and Germany, I'm not very sure. And I'm not sure about Italy either.
Yes, there are these tendencies in parts of the population here in Germany.What percentage of the population in Germany has claims against the United States, wants to get away from the United States, and believes that the United States is to blame for the war in Ukraine?
Yes, there are these tendencies in parts of the population here in Germany.What percentage of the population in Germany has claims against the United States, wants to get away from the United States, and believes that the United States is to blame for the war in Ukraine?
Well, that's what I write about all the time. Germany under the hood of Russian propaganda.Yes, there are these tendencies in parts of the population here in Germany.What percentage of the population in Germany has claims against the United States, wants to get away from the United States, and believes that the United States is to blame for the war in Ukraine?
All I can say about this is this:
A survey here in Germany in May 2022 showed:
Above all, the majority of supporters of the politically extreme left wing (56%) and extreme right wing (88%) were against the delivery of heavy weapons to Ukraine.
In general, fear of an expansion of the war is high in Germany. 70% thought a diplomatic solution was the right way to end the war, and only 24% believed in a military victory.
Regarding your question about anti-American tendencies in Germany:
In 2016, there was a representative survey that about 10% of Germans agreed with statements like these:
- "People in the U.S. are exceedingly selfish and egotistical."
- "U.S. culture is superficial."
- "The U.S. is to blame for the fact that we have so many world conflicts."
- "U.S. imperialism is the real threat to world peace."
The Federal Agency for Civic Education notes in this regard that a clear anti-U.S. attitude has emerged especially in the far-right milieu.
The Russian way of life is the one we need here in Europe.":o :-X :-\
I don't think that the statement of you, stocker2014, that anti-Americanism has been forming here for decades is correct. Unfortunately, however, I have to observe that especially since the beginning of the Corona pandemic tendencies in parts of the population develop in this direction, even if this - according to my knowledge - should apply only to a minority. And, yes, I also believe that this development is being fed by Russia, especially on social media platforms.They do not understand that the virus was released in China, from the laboratory. Released perhaps even on purpose. The virus is a weapon in the third world war, which has been going on for a long time.
Oh guys, you really start to sound like a QAnon group here. Everything is Russia's fault or China. It's getting pretty hilarious by now.
I know I promised not respond anymore but I had to get this of my chest.
Have fun with the rest of your arguments/findings :)
Eager to see which people are now part of the dark side :)
Oh guys, you really start to sound like a QAnon group here. Everything is Russia's fault or China. It's getting pretty hilarious by now.
I know I promised not respond anymore but I had to get this of my chest.
Have fun with the rest of your arguments/findings :)
Eager to see which people are now part of the dark side :)
What are you talking about?
I just read in an article of the Washington post that Zelensky was thinking of attacking Russia on it's own soil a few months ago (I would, if I was being attacked) but he was lacking long distance missiles to do so. Fortunately England just supplied these long range missiles.
Even though Ukraine promised not to use them again Russia, I am getting popcorn and putting my Children in a nuclear shelter :)
Just kidding, but don't be saying, "that escalated quickly!" if the crap hits the fan.
Our NATO leader also expressed today that NATO countries will be delivering more weapons to Ukraine in the war against Russia and that Ukraine will become part of NATO as soon as the war is over. That is a statement of NATO being clearly part of this war (as obviously they were already).
You supply weapons, you train their military personel, you have boots on the ground (special operations). We are in fact at war with Russia. Rightfully so or not, it will have repercussions and can escalate to a point where much more is at stake then just Ukraine.
But hey, Slava Ukraini!
Slava Ukraini, indeed!:)
Just to add my 2 cents. Russia simply will not stop until they are stopped.+100.
Not sure why it hasn't been publicised more but they have already stepped up attempts to destabilise Moldova, even going as far as to attempt a coup. Private Eye did some good reporting on it but as that isn’t online here's a Reuters article: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/fake-bombs-failed-coup-moldova-smolders-border-russias-war-2023-03-10/ (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/fake-bombs-failed-coup-moldova-smolders-border-russias-war-2023-03-10/)
This is while they are already stretched in Ukraine. If they get what they want there, give them just enough time to recover and they will be on to the next country. They should have been stopped in 2008 when they invaded Georgia, then maybe Crimea wouldn't have been invaded. Sadly any concession they see as weakness.
Any talk about the West expanding the war is absurd. Russia will continue to expand either way, it just depends on what terms. I really don’t know what the solution is but that’s the truth of the situation as it currently stands.
I really don’t know what the solution is but that’s the truth of the situation as it currently stands.Everything is very simple. The terrorist and fascist regime in the Russian empire must be destroyed. For this you need:
+100.
Russia's goal is to occupy at least half of the EU.
But I would not start from 2008, for some reason everyone does not remember how Russia killed Chechens, killed women and children in the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. Russia started a war against the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria in 1994. As a result, Russia occupied Ichkeria. The democratic countries allowed Russia to commit these war crimes, probably the media did not even show it. The losses of the Chechen people were huge.
Just to add my 2 cents. Russia simply will not stop until they are stopped.The good news is that now Moldova has finally succeded in electing a very smart and charismatic, pro-EU president, Maia Sandu. I can see similarities between her and Zelensky.
Not sure why it hasn't been publicised more but they have already stepped up attempts to destabilise Moldova, even going as far as to attempt a coup. Private Eye did some good reporting on it but as that isn’t online here's a Reuters article: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/fake-bombs-failed-coup-moldova-smolders-border-russias-war-2023-03-10/ (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/fake-bombs-failed-coup-moldova-smolders-border-russias-war-2023-03-10/)
This is while they are already stretched in Ukraine. If they get what they want there, give them just enough time to recover and they will be on to the next country. They should have been stopped in 2008 when they invaded Georgia, then maybe Crimea wouldn't have been invaded. Sadly any concession they see as weakness.
Any talk about the West expanding the war is absurd. Russia will continue to expand either way, it just depends on what terms. I really don’t know what the solution is but that’s the truth of the situation as it currently stands.
As for Transnistria specifically, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will free this territory from Russian troops in the future, because. it poses a threat to Ukraine.
Of course. Ukraine will never occupy anyone. The Moldovan government will ask the government of Ukraine to provide military assistance to liberate Transnistria.
As for Transnistria specifically, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will free this territory from Russian troops in the future, because. it poses a threat to Ukraine.
That cannot happen. After being invaded by russia, Ukraine will never invade Moldova.
Instead, I expect a Moldo-Ukrainian alliance to be formed, aiming to liberate, together, the occupied Moldovan lands, and expel the russian army from there, because it's posing a threat to both countries.
In February 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine.
Despite the huge risks, two Russian filmmakers spent the year filming the impact of the war inside their country. Hundreds of thousands have fled. Those that stayed have had to choose - to oppose, support or stay silent. A group of young graffiti artists begin a campaign of subversive art to mock the government’s pro-war propaganda. An actor mourns her brother who was killed in Mariupol fighting for the Russian Armed Forces. She is against the war; her father supports it.
Storyville Inside Russia: Traitors and Heroes was produced by BBC World Service’s investigation unit, BBC Eye.
Directed by Anastasia Popova, produced by Misha Kozyrev and Stephanie Stafford, Edited by Anna Saridi & Baya Cat, Exec Producer Monica Garnsey.
BBC Special: Inside RussiaI didn't like anything there. A movie about the so-called "good" Russians. They call the war, the occupation and the killing of women and children "special operation". Not a movie, but solid snot, sitting in the kitchens, saying something there, and drawing something incomprehensible somewhere.
https://youtu.be/ImE_fNTXN34QuoteIn February 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine.
Despite the huge risks, two Russian filmmakers spent the year filming the impact of the war inside their country. Hundreds of thousands have fled. Those that stayed have had to choose - to oppose, support or stay silent. A group of young graffiti artists begin a campaign of subversive art to mock the government’s pro-war propaganda. An actor mourns her brother who was killed in Mariupol fighting for the Russian Armed Forces. She is against the war; her father supports it.
Storyville Inside Russia: Traitors and Heroes was produced by BBC World Service’s investigation unit, BBC Eye.
Directed by Anastasia Popova, produced by Misha Kozyrev and Stephanie Stafford, Edited by Anna Saridi & Baya Cat, Exec Producer Monica Garnsey.
We were speaking of Fox News earlier on this thread. This has been in the news:
"Canadian regulator launches public consultation on banning Fox News from cable packages"
https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/canadian-regulator-launches-public-consultation-on-banning-fox-news-from-cable-packages-1.6386988 (https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/canadian-regulator-launches-public-consultation-on-banning-fox-news-from-cable-packages-1.6386988)QuoteCanadian regulators have launched a public consultation on calls to ban Fox News from cable packages after receiving complaints saying the network has aired hateful content about LGBTQ2S+ people.
The public consultation, which began earlier this month, was triggered by an open letter from advocacy group Egale Canada.
"People in Canada deserve to know that the news broadcast on Canadian airwaves is reliable and objective, and marginalized groups must be protected from malicious propaganda," the group's executive director Helen Kennedy wrote.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
At the same time, I strongly believe in a society setting boundaries to what is acceptable and what not, with consequences on freedom and freedom of speech.Well, they banned the channel, or they want to ban it. Criminal cases are also needed. For the propaganda of fascism, racism and rashism, you need to be imprisoned.
Freedom of speech does not protect you from the consequences of saying stupid crap.
We were speaking of Fox News earlier on this thread. This has been in the news:
"Canadian regulator launches public consultation on banning Fox News from cable packages"
https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/canadian-regulator-launches-public-consultation-on-banning-fox-news-from-cable-packages-1.6386988 (https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/canadian-regulator-launches-public-consultation-on-banning-fox-news-from-cable-packages-1.6386988)QuoteCanadian regulators have launched a public consultation on calls to ban Fox News from cable packages after receiving complaints saying the network has aired hateful content about LGBTQ2S+ people.
The public consultation, which began earlier this month, was triggered by an open letter from advocacy group Egale Canada.
"People in Canada deserve to know that the news broadcast on Canadian airwaves is reliable and objective, and marginalized groups must be protected from malicious propaganda," the group's executive director Helen Kennedy wrote.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
We were speaking of Fox News earlier on this thread. This has been in the news:
"Canadian regulator launches public consultation on banning Fox News from cable packages"
https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/canadian-regulator-launches-public-consultation-on-banning-fox-news-from-cable-packages-1.6386988 (https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/canadian-regulator-launches-public-consultation-on-banning-fox-news-from-cable-packages-1.6386988)QuoteCanadian regulators have launched a public consultation on calls to ban Fox News from cable packages after receiving complaints saying the network has aired hateful content about LGBTQ2S+ people.
The public consultation, which began earlier this month, was triggered by an open letter from advocacy group Egale Canada.
"People in Canada deserve to know that the news broadcast on Canadian airwaves is reliable and objective, and marginalized groups must be protected from malicious propaganda," the group's executive director Helen Kennedy wrote.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
When your key objective is providing reliable and objective news outlets, Fox news has no place on your network, that's clear.
But. It's a very slippery slope, and no matter how much I dislike media outlets as Fox, I really wonder a ban is the right thing to do.
It will put them in their favorite position: a gagged victim. It will give them the power to say: your government doesn't want you to hear what we have to say. Your government only feeds you what they want you to eat. It also gives them more power to attack the mistakes other non-banned media make. And people will keep on consuming fox over the internet anyhow, getting even more tangled up in their spiderweb because they don't trust their own media regulator anymore.
The examples I've seen from (from my point of view justified) banning extreme voices in my country only made them more popular. We did that. We banned a far-right political party. We got them convicted for racism. Mainstream media banned them from interviews and tv-shows for a very long time. Yet. They are now the biggest political party in my country up to a point where they can't be ignored anymore. The same is happening with communists. Banned from mainstream media for a very long time, banned from taking part in governments, yet, they keep on growing election after election, up to a point where they can't be ignored anymore.
We started a war against illegal drugs. Yet, finding a dealer never was easier than today, one of our cities is a major drug trafficking hub in the world, and we have weekly incidents with explosions, drive by shootings and brutal murders organized by drug organizations.
I believe that hard repression against opposing or rather extreme voices has no place in a democracy. It will end in a highly polarized culture war with the winner installing a dictatorial leadership applying harsh repression tactics against opposition and allowing very little freedom, even for the ones who are rather supportive for the leadership. Nobody truly enjoys living in a society like that. At the same time, I strongly believe in a society setting boundaries to what is acceptable and what not, with consequences on freedom and freedom of speech.
Two quotes whom I hold in high esteem:
- I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
- Freedom of speech does not protect you from the consequences of saying stupid crap.
I don't watch Fox News I don't have cable. I have no thoughts that I am missing something. They are terribly biased from what others report. That's OK the Govt. subsidized and managed PBS is also someone what biased towards the left.
But I had to look this one up as there are more letters added or removed in various positions on the subject: LGBTQ2S+ meaning is an acronym for sexual orientations and gender identities that are not heterosexual or cisgender. It stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer or Questioning, and Two-Spirit
That's one is new for me.
This on has added more letters as well: LGBTQIA+ is an abbreviation for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer or questioning, intersex, asexual, and more.
But back to the point. Canada is saying that Fox must accept and embrace LGBTQ+ or be banned. Oh right, there isn't free speech in Canada. Hard to say this, because I do not agree with Fox News leanings, but it seems a bit repressive while claiming to be inclusive? What about someones right to not accept a social or political position? Don't they have a choice or freedom of thought?
As I said above, we can't stamp out bad elements by simply turning a blind eye to it. (Its starting to permeate into Australia too). We need to understand what's going on and then we need to vote. Thats the power of democracy.
Stoker would probably not agree with me, because he is so angry with Russia, and I am too, Stoker, but we can't stamp out fascism and bad elements by simply blocking them as Roscoe says above.Blocking, liquidate, apply sanctions, this is what needs to be done with evil.
Stoker would probably not agree with me, because he is so angry with Russia, and I am too, Stoker, but we can't stamp out fascism and bad elements by simply blocking them as Roscoe says above.Blocking, liquidate, apply sanctions, this is what needs to be done with evil.
For 30 years, democracy has done nothing with the Russian empire; as a result, democracy has grown fascism and terrorism with its own hands. The same goes for China.
So just looking is not enough.
As I said above, we can't stamp out bad elements by simply turning a blind eye to it. (Its starting to permeate into Australia too). We need to understand what's going on and then we need to vote. Thats the power of democracy.
I agree, I just think there should be limits to how much nastiness gets a free podium. A different pov is important, but publicly asking folks to commit criminal acts (or support those who do) is less so. And when a "news" channel admits in court that they lied on-air consistently over time, there should be repercussions for that. Yes its a slippery slope, but doing nothing is (again in my opinion) worse.
As for the CNN debacle, Jon Stewart summed it up best I think, he said that while he learned nothing new about DJT, he learned a lot about CNN. Staging a "town hall" in this case added nothing newsworthy (IMHO) except that it allowed DJT to once again run his mouth unchecked. On the plus side, his defamed the woman again live on TV, and last I saw she will be filing another suit. Free money I guess.
And I would add the qualifier that its an educated and informed democracy that is ultimately the most successful. :)
Oops, I read you, I read, and you deleted everything :)Stoker would probably not agree with me, because he is so angry with Russia, and I am too, Stoker, but we can't stamp out fascism and bad elements by simply blocking them as Roscoe says above.Blocking, liquidate, apply sanctions, this is what needs to be done with evil.
For 30 years, democracy has done nothing with the Russian empire; as a result, democracy has grown fascism and terrorism with its own hands. The same goes for China.
So just looking is not enough.
I hear you, and I feel the same way about repressive governments. But I don't know if that's that answer.
Sanctions haven't worked. But every one of us in a democratic country can go and vote for our own choice of government who are committed to putting an end to the war. The better informed we all are, the more people we have that can do this.
Oops, I read you, I read, and you deleted everything :)Stoker would probably not agree with me, because he is so angry with Russia, and I am too, Stoker, but we can't stamp out fascism and bad elements by simply blocking them as Roscoe says above.Blocking, liquidate, apply sanctions, this is what needs to be done with evil.
For 30 years, democracy has done nothing with the Russian empire; as a result, democracy has grown fascism and terrorism with its own hands. The same goes for China.
So just looking is not enough.
I hear you, and I feel the same way about repressive governments. But I don't know if that's that answer.
Sanctions haven't worked. But every one of us in a democratic country can go and vote for our own choice of government who are committed to putting an end to the war. The better informed we all are, the more people we have that can do this.
Concerning russian youth. What will happen if you plant the seeds of beautiful flowers and plants in poisoned and poisonous soil? The answer is obvious, instead of beautiful flowers, you will grow ugly monsters. I think you understand what I'm talking about.
Russians are not Ukrainians, since their appearance, and this is the 16th century, they have been brought up in the imperial spirit. In order for Russian youth to correctly understand the situation, to think good and not evil, it is necessary to liquidate the Russian empire, temporarily occupy Moscovia (and this is exactly the territory where the Russians can eventually remain) and completely retrain them for 20 years. During this time, normal flowers and plants will grow in good soil.
You write about democratic countries, about elections in these countries, about the peace. The problem is that there is a war going on, and for peace to come, the war must first be won and defeated by evil, at least on the battlefield.
In order for Russian youth to correctly understand the situation, to think good and not evil, it is necessary to liquidate the Russian empire, temporarily occupy Moscovia (and this is exactly the territory where the Russians can eventually remain) and completely retrain them for 20 years. During this time, normal flowers and plants will grow in good soil.
Annie, I did not call you a communist, I wrote that you are not a communist. My English is pretty bad.
I saw your post long before you deleted it. The page was opened in the browser, then after some time I finished reading your post, then I refreshed the page and saw that you edited the post. But, I managed to read it and understood the course of your thoughts. You delete your thoughts in vain, there is no need for it. Feel free to write.
I don't have your deleted messages. I didn't copy them. You have removed them yourself.Annie, I did not call you a communist, I wrote that you are not a communist. My English is pretty bad.
I saw your post long before you deleted it. The page was opened in the browser, then after some time I finished reading your post, then I refreshed the page and saw that you edited the post. But, I managed to read it and understood the course of your thoughts. You delete your thoughts in vain, there is no need for it. Feel free to write.
Thanks Stoker. But please can you remove the contents of my deleted post. That is my prerogative, not yours, to not have it on the forum. I hope you understand that. Thanks :)
These are the dreams of Russian fascists, rashists and terrorists. Currently, the Russians have occupied part of the territory of Ukraine and are engaged in the genocide of Ukrainians, murders and their deportation to Russia.In order for Russian youth to correctly understand the situation, to think good and not evil, it is necessary to liquidate the Russian empire, temporarily occupy Moscovia (and this is exactly the territory where the Russians can eventually remain) and completely retrain them for 20 years. During this time, normal flowers and plants will grow in good soil.
Read your own comment but replace Russia by Ukraine and Mosovia by Metropolitanate of Kyiv or whatever region that's historically part of nowadays Ukraine.
And, let it sink in.
Just to add my 2 cents. Russia simply will not stop until they are stopped.
Not sure why it hasn't been publicised more but they have already stepped up attempts to destabilise Moldova, even going as far as to attempt a coup.
Fighting began in the Bryansk and Belgorod regions of fascist Russia. Either the Armed Forces of Ukraine have entered, or it is the Russian liberation army. In any case, the war from the territory of Ukraine must be transferred to the territory of the russian empire.
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https://youtu.be/5cxXcJL9pxE (https://youtu.be/5cxXcJL9pxE)
There are subtitles. Can be translated into any language.
Operational data: 30 square kilometers have already been liberated from the Russian fascist regime. Hmm.
1. I did not understand who was banned from entering the EU?Fighting began in the Bryansk and Belgorod regions of fascist Russia. Either the Armed Forces of Ukraine have entered, or it is the Russian liberation army. In any case, the war from the territory of Ukraine must be transferred to the territory of the russian empire.
::)
https://youtu.be/5cxXcJL9pxE (https://youtu.be/5cxXcJL9pxE)
There are subtitles. Can be translated into any language.
Operational data: 30 square kilometers have already been liberated from the Russian fascist regime. Hmm.
You do know that one of the two parties that engaged this adventure are fully engaged nazi's that are not allowed to enter the EU because of it. And it seems they are sponsored by Ukraine to do so. So with all your talk about fascists and * how do you respond to his. Which side do you choose? The fascist party that wants to overthrow Russia or fascist Russia? Really curious.
This will remain as the biggest trolling in war history.I will add.
russia never admitted the invasion of Ukraine.
It was the "people of Donbas" who begged putin for help to fight the "Ukrainian fascists".
It was not the russians who started the war in Ukraine, but "local freedom-fighting" militias.
Many were brainwashed by the russian propaganda and still believe this crap. Even in this forum there are a few poor souls who fell for it.
Now the same thing happens in the mirror.
It's not Ukraine occupying positions in Belgorod, but "russian freedom fighters".
It's a "civil war" inside russia, like it was in Ukraine since 2014. And maybe it will also become a special operation, but never a war.
Now it's only normal to ask russia to give up the Belgorod province in exchange for peace, like Ukraine was asked to give up its territories in exchange for peace.
Or maybe an independent Behorod republic should be declared because ukraine needs a buffer zone inside russia to protect itself, like russia needed a buffer zone inside Ukraine to protect itself.
russian apologists are getting a taste of their own medicine.
It could have been funny if it wasn't tragic.
Nobody should be needing any buffer zones in other countries.This is because Russia does not fire artillery at residential buildings in other countries and does not send troops to other countries. (For now. If Russia is not stopped at the borders of Ukraine..)
Not russia, not Ukraine, not anyone.
1. I did not understand who was banned from entering the EU?Fighting began in the Bryansk and Belgorod regions of fascist Russia. Either the Armed Forces of Ukraine have entered, or it is the Russian liberation army. In any case, the war from the territory of Ukraine must be transferred to the territory of the russian empire.
::)
https://youtu.be/5cxXcJL9pxE (https://youtu.be/5cxXcJL9pxE)
There are subtitles. Can be translated into any language.
Operational data: 30 square kilometers have already been liberated from the Russian fascist regime. Hmm.
You do know that one of the two parties that engaged this adventure are fully engaged nazi's that are not allowed to enter the EU because of it. And it seems they are sponsored by Ukraine to do so. So with all your talk about fascists and * how do you respond to his. Which side do you choose? The fascist party that wants to overthrow Russia or fascist Russia? Really curious.
2. What fascist party are you talking about, there is no party at all. There are Russians who call themselves the liberation army.
What is happening now on the territory of Russia can be called a civil war, because. the armed forces of Ukraine are not there. But, in the conditions of the war with the Russian Empire, it is very likely that the Armed Forces of Ukraine can also enter the territory of Russia to create a buffer security zone 100 km into the roughness of Russia.
3. Naturally, Ukraine will support Russian partisans who want to fight the Russian army. There is no fascism here. The fascists are the Russians themselves, who pay taxes in Russia and support the occupation and genocide of Ukraine. But those Russians who became partisans are anti-fascists.
Nice people :)I have no idea what these people are and who they really are. I have little interest in the personalities of Russian partisans. But since such information has gone, I think the KGB (FSB) of Russia has connected to this issue, and most likely this is Russian propaganda, and the article is custom-made.
Do also remember that Svoboda which is a far-right nazi party obtained most of it's popularity in West-Ukraine, not in the east. So, you can call Russia fascists and Nazi's but it was them, together with Western countries, fighting against Hitler's Germany. And it's the western part of Ukraine who embraces now, and in the recent past, this far-right idealism, not the eastern part.You have added to the list of those who quote Russian propaganda here on the forum. With which I congratulate you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(political_party)
This nazi party took a substantial role in overthrowing the sitting government during the maiden protests.
It's common knowledge if you just read normal western media. It's not Russian propoganda. Do look in your local media and you will find it as well. I gave you a link of the BBC. Or are they propogating Russia's information as well?Nice people :)I have no idea what these people are and who they really are. I have little interest in the personalities of Russian partisans. But since such information has gone, I think the KGB (FSB) of Russia has connected to this issue, and most likely this is Russian propaganda, and the article is custom-made.
For me personally, fascists are those who kill Ukrainian children, women, occupy Ukrainian cities. I don't know what the leaders of these movements did wrong. But I know that they did only one thing, they went to fight against the Russian fascists. That's all I know. But you can follow Russian propaganda and consider all those who are now fighting against rashism to be criminals.
By the way, the so-called Russian "opposition" is now throwing mud at these Russian partisans, because they understand that if they win, then this pocket "opposition" of Putin will be thrown into the trash of history.
I am sure that if the Russian partisans were fascists, they certainly would not have fought against Putin.
And at the expense of sanctions, since the United States kept the Ukrainian regiment "Azov" under sanctions for a long time, in the United States they believed that the * were fighting there. But since February last year, as far as I know, the United States has lifted these sanctions. For reference, only the most devoted to Ukraine patriots have always fought in the Azov regiment.
Do you even read the links I send you? It's coming from your homeground, if that is the US. And you don't have a clue about WOII, do you?Do also remember that Svoboda which is a far-right nazi party obtained most of it's popularity in West-Ukraine, not in the east. So, you can call Russia fascists and Nazi's but it was them, together with Western countries, fighting against Hitler's Germany. And it's the western part of Ukraine who embraces now, and in the recent past, this far-right idealism, not the eastern part.You have added to the list of those who quote Russian propaganda here on the forum. With which I congratulate you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(political_party)
This nazi party took a substantial role in overthrowing the sitting government during the maiden protests.
As for the "Svoboda" party, this movement has never been fascist, it's all Russian propaganda.
And yes, during the Second World War, Germany and the USSR were fascist countries that started a war in Europe and occupied foreign countries. The fact that the United States accepted the USSR into the anti-Hitler coalition only says that Germany was more dangerous at that time than the USSR. But this is a separate conversation, you seem to know the story poorly. And there are people here who can explain it better to you if they want to.
Germany has not been a fascist country for a very long time, but Russia, as it was a fascist country, has remained so. Therefore, now the entire civilized world is at war with Russian fascism.
1. I don't see your link.It's common knowledge if you just read normal western media. It's not Russian propoganda. Do look in your local media and you will find it as well. I gave you a link of the BBC. Or are they propogating Russia's information as well?Nice people :)I have no idea what these people are and who they really are. I have little interest in the personalities of Russian partisans. But since such information has gone, I think the KGB (FSB) of Russia has connected to this issue, and most likely this is Russian propaganda, and the article is custom-made.
For me personally, fascists are those who kill Ukrainian children, women, occupy Ukrainian cities. I don't know what the leaders of these movements did wrong. But I know that they did only one thing, they went to fight against the Russian fascists. That's all I know. But you can follow Russian propaganda and consider all those who are now fighting against rashism to be criminals.
By the way, the so-called Russian "opposition" is now throwing mud at these Russian partisans, because they understand that if they win, then this pocket "opposition" of Putin will be thrown into the trash of history.
I am sure that if the Russian partisans were fascists, they certainly would not have fought against Putin.
And at the expense of sanctions, since the United States kept the Ukrainian regiment "Azov" under sanctions for a long time, in the United States they believed that the * were fighting there. But since February last year, as far as I know, the United States has lifted these sanctions. For reference, only the most devoted to Ukraine patriots have always fought in the Azov regiment.
1. I don't see your link.It's common knowledge if you just read normal western media. It's not Russian propoganda. Do look in your local media and you will find it as well. I gave you a link of the BBC. Or are they propogating Russia's information as well?Nice people :)I have no idea what these people are and who they really are. I have little interest in the personalities of Russian partisans. But since such information has gone, I think the KGB (FSB) of Russia has connected to this issue, and most likely this is Russian propaganda, and the article is custom-made.
For me personally, fascists are those who kill Ukrainian children, women, occupy Ukrainian cities. I don't know what the leaders of these movements did wrong. But I know that they did only one thing, they went to fight against the Russian fascists. That's all I know. But you can follow Russian propaganda and consider all those who are now fighting against rashism to be criminals.
By the way, the so-called Russian "opposition" is now throwing mud at these Russian partisans, because they understand that if they win, then this pocket "opposition" of Putin will be thrown into the trash of history.
I am sure that if the Russian partisans were fascists, they certainly would not have fought against Putin.
And at the expense of sanctions, since the United States kept the Ukrainian regiment "Azov" under sanctions for a long time, in the United States they believed that the * were fighting there. But since February last year, as far as I know, the United States has lifted these sanctions. For reference, only the most devoted to Ukraine patriots have always fought in the Azov regiment.
2. You need to think, and not blindly believe what is published. The same New York Times very often publishes articles with Russian propaganda. And the Fox channel is the mouthpiece of Russian propaganda in the United States. And what?
As I already wrote here in the subject, a lot of agents of the Kremlin, Putin and the KGB work in democratic countries. Even the Russian "opposition" is, in fact, a bunch of Rashists. And even today, in democratic countries, many listen to what Russians say and believe them.
3. Therefore, your text is the work of either the KGB or the Russian opposition.
SVH, I don't read authors who write Russian propaganda. All your texts are 100% Russian propaganda. I have to put you on ignore.I thought you already put me on the ignore list. I guess some Russian hacked you and removed me from it :)
Amazingly accurate predictions made by McCain, back in 2015:Yes, populism and insanity lead to disasters.
https://youtu.be/HLAzeHnNgR8
Trump called him names, and now he's chestbeating himself, claiming he can "art of the deal" putin's "novorussia" ambitions in 24 hours, while MAGA sheep eat all this crap up, unchewed ::)
Thanks for the reply and for moving the thread to a more appropriate topic.
I served in the Italian army in the 90s,and I think war is not the solution today,in the past maybe but not today,but show with firmness and determination that you are ready to fight for the values of freedom and democracy,yes I believe in this.
I believe that in this scenario an USA republican government would have been more suitable to manage this crisis,instead a democratic USA government was more suitable to manage the health crisis we have gone through.
Why do i believe this?because in my opinion this bloodshed had to be stopped from the beginning,when Putin was massing troops in Belarus and preparing to invade Ukraine,even though it is not a member country of NATO and EU it was necessary to defend the European borders,and more than anything else demonstrate to the whole world that such actions are no longer tolerable.
What would have happened in my opinion?Nothing!Because the Russians could not and cannot unleash a third world war,therefore a diplomatic solution had to be reached.
Instead the democratic world did not want to get its hands dirty and act with firmness and determination and now the situation has degenerated.
I am and remain convinced that the Russian population for the most part and above all the under 50s do not want war,and Putin has lost and continues to lose the support of the population.
In my opinion,Putin and those who support him are now only the shadow of a Russian Federation now in extinction,I don't think he will be supported by his army and population much longer.
NATO will continue to expand,and its attempt to stop it is bound to fail,and the most cultured and educated and most modern Russian population knows it.
So let's stop accusing the Russian population of being fascists,the fault here lies in a backward Government which is doomed to fail.
I served in the Italian army in the 90s,and I think war is not the solution today,in the past maybe but not today,but show with firmness and determination that you are ready to fight for the values of freedom and democracy,yes I believe in this.400 thousand Russian terrorist soldiers are on the territory of Ukraine and kill Ukrainians. The war has already been going on for more than a year, and it is already too late to say that the war is not a solution to the problem.
I am and remain convinced that the Russian population for the most part and above all the under 50s do not want war,and Putin has lost and continues to lose the support of the population.I read that in Italy they treat Russians very well. I also read that the Italian government supported Russia and Putin for a long time. There are many KGB (FSB) agents in Italy.
Let's also remember that the bloodshed can be stopped tomorrow, if putin decides to withdraw and restore Ukraine's freedom and territorial integrity.I am sure that most Russians will not support such a decision. The Russian Empire rests only on wars, occupation, murders, terror and robbery. The Russians would consider such a scenario a capitulation. Voluntarily, the Russians will definitely not do this. But the F16 fighters handed over to Ukraine will help the Russians quickly escape from Ukraine.
Thanks for the reply and for moving the thread to a more appropriate topic.
I served in the Italian army in the 90s,and I think war is not the solution today,in the past maybe but not today,but show with firmness and determination that you are ready to fight for the values of freedom and democracy,yes I believe in this.
I believe that in this scenario an USA republican government would have been more suitable to manage this crisis,instead a democratic USA government was more suitable to manage the health crisis we have gone through.
Why do i believe this?because in my opinion this bloodshed had to be stopped from the beginning,when Putin was massing troops in Belarus and preparing to invade Ukraine,even though it is not a member country of NATO and EU it was necessary to defend the European borders,and more than anything else demonstrate to the whole world that such actions are no longer tolerable.
What would have happened in my opinion?Nothing!Because the Russians could not and cannot unleash a third world war,therefore a diplomatic solution had to be reached.
Instead the democratic world did not want to get its hands dirty and act with firmness and determination and now the situation has degenerated.
I am and remain convinced that the Russian population for the most part and above all the under 50s do not want war,and Putin has lost and continues to lose the support of the population.
In my opinion,Putin and those who support him are now only the shadow of a Russian Federation now in extinction,I don't think he will be supported by his army and population much longer.
NATO will continue to expand,and its attempt to stop it is bound to fail,and the most cultured and educated and most modern Russian population knows it.
So let's stop accusing the Russian population of being fascists,the fault here lies in a backward Government which is doomed to fail.
In a way you are right. The bloodshed could have been stopped if Ukraine was part of NATO, or if NATO would have had the guts to declare and maintain a no-fly zone over Ukraine. But many weak politicians were afraid to call putin's bluff. By failing to do that, they emboldened him and gave him the impression that he is too strong to be opposed.
Only recently, most of these politicians realized that we must call putin's bluff and even raise the ante, or else things may become worse.
Better late than never, but it's so sad to see how many lives were lost because of political indecisiveness and failed appeasements attempts (e.g. Macron being ridiculed by putin with that long kremlin table)
And, please, repeat after me: NATO IS NOT EXPANDING. NATO is joined!
NATO was joined by independent free countries, who knew well too well what it meant to live for decades, as colonies, under the soviet/russian boot (+Finland, with their own tragic russian experince)
Let's also remember that the bloodshed can be stopped tomorrow, if putin decides to withdraw and restore Ukraine's freedom and territorial integrity.
I served in the Italian army in the 90s,and I think war is not the solution today,in the past maybe but not today,but show with firmness and determination that you are ready to fight for the values of freedom and democracy,yes I believe in this.400 thousand Russian terrorist soldiers are on the territory of Ukraine and kill Ukrainians. The war has already been going on for more than a year, and it is already too late to say that the war is not a solution to the problem.
Here is a summary of the losses of the Russian army for today.
https://dnepr.express/storage/media/publishing-media/2023/05/31/1685515513-i11yz/conversions/347266304-815387743262847-819151559394317021-n-optimized.jpg
In my opinion, many were afraid of Russia. In NATO countries, few people want to draw their country into a direct war, so only Ukrainians are waging war. Let's not forget that China supports Russia and may also join it.
But yes, it was possible to impose sanctions against Russia back in the 90s of the last century, not to mention 2014, when Russia launched a war against Ukraine.I am and remain convinced that the Russian population for the most part and above all the under 50s do not want war,and Putin has lost and continues to lose the support of the population.I read that in Italy they treat Russians very well. I also read that the Italian government supported Russia and Putin for a long time. There are many KGB (FSB) agents in Italy.
As for the Russians, I have not yet met a single Russian who could answer 5 questions. The Russian opposition cannot answer these questions either.
I bring these questions here, you can ask them to all the Russians you meet. And you will find that most Russians (of all ages) are happy with Putin's results, some just don't like the methods. At the same time, the Russians do nothing to fight their fascist regime. More precisely, they do, but this is only 1% of their entire population, if not less.
1. Whose Crimea?
2. Should the Russian Empire continue to exist within today's borders? Or do oppressed peoples have the right to secede and create their own nation-states?
3. Should all war criminals who kill Ukrainians or help them be punished?
4. Should Russia withdraw its troops from Ukraine, Crimea, Donbass?
5. Should Russia pay reparations to Ukraine and Ukrainians for those killed, for destroyed cities, destroyed ecology and other losses?
In my opinion,Russians are not fascists and Crimea should be free and independent from Russia and Ukraine,but I think we need an official referendum for this managed by Europe,United States,Russia and Ukraine,because it is a territory thrown into total chaos for too long.:o
Russians are not fascists1. Study this topic on pages 12-13.
I don't think China will support Russia in any war directed against NATO.Now China supports Russia and helps it economically, and also helps the Russians to get weapons from Iran, North Korea and other fascist countries. China supplies electronics to Russia, which allows the Russians to produce rockets. Also, China is preparing for a war with the United States, and this has already been written a lot. Everything is connected there. The democratic world is at war with the 3-headed dragon. The central head is China, the head on the right is Russia, the head on the left is Iran. The dragon has 2 more hands, the first is North Korea, and the second is Belarus.
In my opinion,Russians are not fascists and Crimea should be free and independent from Russia and Ukraine,but I think we need an official referendum for this managed by Europe,United States,Russia and Ukraine,because it is a territory thrown into total chaos for too long.:o
Who are you going to give the Ukrainian Crimea to? Maybe also separate Sicily from Italy?
Russians are not fascists1. Study this topic on pages 12-13.
2. Talk to Ukrainian refugees from the war zone.
3. The Italian media are very merciful and protect the psyche of their citizens, so they don’t show you even 10% of what is happening in Ukraine. This is so that the Italians do not start hunting Russians on the streets of Italy.
4. Rather than write from Italy, being several thousand kilometers from the front, it is better to come to the Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine. You can go there through Russia. When you arrive, say that you are for Ukraine. After that, you will be taken to a concentration camp, there are a lot of them, and in a few minutes you will quickly realize that you have fallen into the hands of the Gestapo.
5. Naturally, the media do not publish photos of Russian atrocities against women and children. But in Ukraine, in state institutions, upon request, they will show you.
I don't think China will support Russia in any war directed against NATO.Now China supports Russia and helps it economically, and also helps the Russians to get weapons from Iran, North Korea and other fascist countries. China supplies electronics to Russia, which allows the Russians to produce rockets. Also, China is preparing for a war with the United States, and this has already been written a lot. Everything is connected there. The democratic world is at war with the 3-headed dragon. The central head is China, the head on the right is Russia, the head on the left is Iran. The dragon has 2 more hands, the first is North Korea, and the second is Belarus.
In my opinion,Russians are not fascists and Crimea should be free and independent from Russia and Ukraine,but I think we need an official referendum for this managed by Europe,United States,Russia and Ukraine,because it is a territory thrown into total chaos for too long.:o
Who are you going to give the Ukrainian Crimea to? Maybe also separate Sicily from Italy?
I think Crimea has to decide for Crimea,with all due respect of course,we don't know each other,maybe I'm wrong I don't know,but in my opinion you take too many things for granted,often things are not as they seem.
And to answer your question,yes of course,if Sicily ever wanted to separate from Italy,who are we Italians to oppose the will of the Sicilians?
It is not the Russian government that crossed the Ukrainian border, and it is not Russian officials who kill people, it is the Russian people who do it.Russians are not fascists1. Study this topic on pages 12-13.
2. Talk to Ukrainian refugees from the war zone.
3. The Italian media are very merciful and protect the psyche of their citizens, so they don’t show you even 10% of what is happening in Ukraine. This is so that the Italians do not start hunting Russians on the streets of Italy.
4. Rather than write from Italy, being several thousand kilometers from the front, it is better to come to the Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine. You can go there through Russia. When you arrive, say that you are for Ukraine. After that, you will be taken to a concentration camp, there are a lot of them, and in a few minutes you will quickly realize that you have fallen into the hands of the Gestapo.
5. Naturally, the media do not publish photos of Russian atrocities against women and children. But in Ukraine, in state institutions, upon request, they will show you.
Ok I understand your point of view,I respect and understand it but I don't agree,in my opinion the majority of the Russian population doesn't want any war and they are not fascists.
Here in Italy there is no censorship,the atrocities committed against civilian targets,women and children are atrocities committed by the Russian government not by the Russian population.
Crimea occupied by Russian troops in 2014. This is an occupied territory that will be liberated by Ukraine by military means. You don't know history.In my opinion,Russians are not fascists and Crimea should be free and independent from Russia and Ukraine,but I think we need an official referendum for this managed by Europe,United States,Russia and Ukraine,because it is a territory thrown into total chaos for too long.:o
Who are you going to give the Ukrainian Crimea to? Maybe also separate Sicily from Italy?
I think Crimea has to decide for Crimea,with all due respect of course,we don't know each other,maybe I'm wrong I don't know,but in my opinion you take too many things for granted,often things are not as they seem.
And to answer your question,yes of course,if Sicily ever wanted to separate from Italy,who are we Italians to oppose the will of the Sicilians?
As discussed before, interesting comment below.Do you think the Russians will withdraw troops from Transnistria? Voluntarily? I doubt it very much. Moldova may need to open a second front.
This move should free up troops currently locked along the western border (454km long) allowing them to be redeployed in the east.
As discussed before, interesting comment below.Do you think the Russians will withdraw troops from Transnistria? Voluntarily? I doubt it very much. Moldova may need to open a second front.
This move should free up troops currently locked along the western border (454km long) allowing them to be redeployed in the east.
In my opinion,Russians are not fascists and Crimea should be free and independent from Russia and Ukraine,but I think we need an official referendum for this managed by Europe,United States,Russia and Ukraine,because it is a territory thrown into total chaos for too long.:o
Who are you going to give the Ukrainian Crimea to? Maybe also separate Sicily from Italy?
I think Crimea has to decide for Crimea,with all due respect of course,we don't know each other,maybe I'm wrong I don't know,but in my opinion you take too many things for granted,often things are not as they seem.
And to answer your question,yes of course,if Sicily ever wanted to separate from Italy,who are we Italians to oppose the will of the Sicilians?
How is it even possible to truly know what Crimea wants, or say to whom Crimea truly belongs to after a history of changing hands for so many times?
It's a good example of how one-sided imaginary nationalism and made up borders will never able to provide a sustainable and stable solution for any region in the world that's subject of territory claims.
Many countries and regions in the more civilized part of the world found a solution for that: federal states with high degrees of self-government.
Is it perfect? No. Does it bring peace? Political turmoil aside: yes it does.
Plenty of examples to be found on the European continent where regions who feel they don't really fit in the country that claims their territory have gotten a fair amount of self-government through a democratic process. Many of those regions have had violent struggles, but they were all somehow able to leave it all behind because both sides came to the conclusion they couldn't win, and decided to continue their battle politically. Still a lot of crap going on, but at least, regular innocent people minding their own business won't get shot or bombed anymore, and many of those regions thrive and increased their general welfare.
No, this is a lie. You are repeating Russian propaganda. Crimea is just a territory where the Crimean Tatars lived and live, whom the Russians deported under Stalin. So, ask the Crimean Tatars if they want Crimea not to be part of Ukraine. The answer will be negative.In my opinion,Russians are not fascists and Crimea should be free and independent from Russia and Ukraine,but I think we need an official referendum for this managed by Europe,United States,Russia and Ukraine,because it is a territory thrown into total chaos for too long.:o
Who are you going to give the Ukrainian Crimea to? Maybe also separate Sicily from Italy?
I think Crimea has to decide for Crimea,with all due respect of course,we don't know each other,maybe I'm wrong I don't know,but in my opinion you take too many things for granted,often things are not as they seem.
And to answer your question,yes of course,if Sicily ever wanted to separate from Italy,who are we Italians to oppose the will of the Sicilians?
How is it even possible to truly know what Crimea wants, or say to whom Crimea truly belongs to after a history of changing hands for so many times?
It's a good example of how one-sided imaginary nationalism and made up borders will never able to provide a sustainable and stable solution for any region in the world that's subject of territory claims.
Many countries and regions in the more civilized part of the world found a solution for that: federal states with high degrees of self-government.
Is it perfect? No. Does it bring peace? Political turmoil aside: yes it does.
Plenty of examples to be found on the European continent where regions who feel they don't really fit in the country that claims their territory have gotten a fair amount of self-government through a democratic process. Many of those regions have had violent struggles, but they were all somehow able to leave it all behind because both sides came to the conclusion they couldn't win, and decided to continue their battle politically. Still a lot of crap going on, but at least, regular innocent people minding their own business won't get shot or bombed anymore, and many of those regions thrive and increased their general welfare.
yes,I absolutely cannot counter such an argument because it is the truth,Crimea is in total confusion,I think a referendum can clarify but,
the last referendum in 2014 was declared illegal by Ukraine because Ukraine itself feared that the independent republic of Crimea could become part of the Russian Federation,furthermore,in 2014 Crimea itself declared itself independent from Ukraine.
Crimea was given back to Ukraine by the United Nations General Assembly which declared the last referendum invalid,Russia has never accepted this result,China also abstained at the time.
China abstained and was never openly opposed to the referendum result,which says a lot about China's intentions in an open NATO conflict against Russia.
Zelensky's meeting with Maia Sandu took place. Zelensky said that the armed forces of Ukraine could destroy Russian invaders and Moldovan collaborators on the territory of Transnistria. In fact, Zelensky proposes to do this.As discussed before, interesting comment below.Do you think the Russians will withdraw troops from Transnistria? Voluntarily? I doubt it very much. Moldova may need to open a second front.
This move should free up troops currently locked along the western border (454km long) allowing them to be redeployed in the east.
All the European state and government leaders are in Moldova today. This topic must have been on the table.
Poland just announced that they sent a huge amount of military equipment to Moldova.
Kiev and Kishinev
+100Kiev and Kishinev
Kyiv and Chișinău
Don't use russified names ;)
And, please, repeat after me: NATO IS NOT EXPANDING. NATO is joined!
And what? Everything popular is expanding. But not through war and occupation, but through the voluntary entry of new members into the organization. What's wrong with NATO? NATO, unlike Russia, is not a fascist and terrorist organization.
And, please, repeat after me: NATO IS NOT EXPANDING. NATO is joined!
Repeat after me: NATO IS EXPANDING.
Yep, this is why Sweden was recently coerced to become part of NATO.
And, please, repeat after me: NATO IS NOT EXPANDING. NATO is joined!
Repeat after me: NATO IS EXPANDING.
Yep, this is why Sweden was recently coerced to become part of NATO.They have not yet taken it to NATO, but they are already sending troops there, occupying and shooting everyone who is against it. :'( :-X
Ooh wait...
But not through war and occupation, but through the voluntary entry of new members into the organization. What's wrong with NATO? NATO, unlike Russia, is not a fascist and terrorist organization.
Repeat after me: REFERENDUM IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF DEMOCRACY.
“A fascist is someone who supports or promotes fascism,a system of government led by a dictator who typically rules by forcefully and often violently suppressing opposition and criticism,controlling all industry and commerce,and promoting nationalism and often racism”This is the exact definition of the modern Russian empire.
Russians are not fascists.Russians are not only fascists, they are also rashists, terrorists and war criminals. Moreover, this applies to almost 2/3 of the population of Russia.
Russian government,Putin,comes close to the definition of a fascist,but is just a man who doesn't want to accept or understand and trying to stop something that can no longer be stopped,and this thing is called NATO.Putin is a war criminal and a terrorist, he drowned Ukraine in the blood of genocide. On the Putin issued an arrest by an international court.
Repeat after me: REFERENDUM IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF DEMOCRACY. THE ONES AVOIDING IT ON ANY COST DON'T GIVE A F..K ABOUT WILL OF PEOPLE. COUNTRIES ARE PEOPLE.Exactly.
NATO is spreading terror and rewriting historical borders is same Fascist way as Russia.Will there be examples?
At this time NATO is supporting and doing the same thing Russia is trying to do with Crimea, just on Kosovo. Exactly same thing just in this case NATO supports separatist for its own interests.What does NATO have to do with Kosovo? You will study the question first.
What does NATO have to do with Kosovo? You will study the question first.
Yugoslavia as a country disintegrated a long time ago. Therefore, the Republic of Kosovo itself decides how and with whom to live.
You probably support the Serbian pro-Russian occupiers?
1. What country are you from?
What does NATO have to do with Kosovo? You will study the question first.
Yugoslavia as a country disintegrated a long time ago. Therefore, the Republic of Kosovo itself decides how and with whom to live.
You probably support the Serbian pro-Russian occupiers?
Time for education...so repeat after me...
Kosovo was never a Yugoslav Republic. Kosovo was a region of autonomy based on majority of Albanian population and essential part of the Republic of Serbia.
I support Serbs so much that I spent years of best times of my life defending my country against them in first lines, while they were lunching thousands of missiles a day with 4. Army force in Europe on a fresh recognized country that didn't even have an army. All we got from NATO and the rest of the company is weapons embargo so that we can not even buy it to defend ourself.
And that's a bit different than what you are doing my dear keyboard warrior.
But justice is justice.
1. What country are you from?
2. 101 UN states have recognized Kosovo.
3. As a result of the 1999 war between Serbs and Albanians, the region came under UN control.
4. On February 17, 2008, the parliament of Kosovo declared independence.
5. 92% of Albanians live in Kosovo.
6. In 1974, the autonomous rights of the territory of Kosovo were extended and these rights were equated with other republics of Yugoslavia.
Conclusions: When a country breaks up, in this case Yugoslavia, the emergence of a country like Kosovo is quite logical and democratic. And in vain you support Serbia here.
There is no need to compare with Crimea. It's like comparing a monkey and a human.
7. If you do not support Serbia, then you should be grateful to NATO for helping to end the civil war in Kosovo. As a result of the war, a new state of Kosovo emerged.
Repeat after me: The situation with Kosovo is absolutely the same as the one in Crimea.You are a Croatian, so you know the history of Croatia. You do not know the history of Crimea.
In 1939. there were 62.3% of Serbs and 37.6% Albanians. The politics of Yugoslavia of accepting Albanian refugees ended up with such ethnically cleansing that Serbs made less than 1.47 % in 2011.I see other data:
We can also compare it with Catalonia where 90%+ people that voted chose independence on democratic referendum and police used force to stop them but I haven't seen NATO intervening.Why is NATO there? There was no civil war there, there were no threats to the EU. Madrid defended its constitution and the integrity of Spain. The separatists were imprisoned. There are a lot of Russian KGB agents working there in Catalonia, they are fueling the protests.
As a Croatian I have absolutely no reason to defend the Serbs who destroyed 1/3 of my country and forced me to fight right after my high school graduation but Im defending the justice here.Here you know what to write, and that's good. The problems of Croatia can be discussed further. Let me just say that NATO is included only when the issue is not resolved by political means, by negotiation. In the case of Kosovo, the intervention was justified.
As a matter effects Serbs wanted same thing in Croatia to take away regions with majority of Serbian population withing my country and join them with Serbia. The Yugoslav national army took their side and went with full force on fresh Croatian unarmed side destroying everything. NATO didn't want to piss of Russia, traditional Serbian friend, and forced a embargo on Croatia to buy weapons to defend itself. So the only way was to buy it on the black market.
And those are facts
I see other data:
1921: Albanians 66%, Serbs 26%;
1939: Albanians 60%, Serbs 34%;
1971: Albanians 74%, Serbs 21%;
2007: Albanians 92%, Serbs 5%;
That is why NATO intervened and helped the Albanians.I see other data:
1921: Albanians 66%, Serbs 26%;
1939: Albanians 60%, Serbs 34%;
1971: Albanians 74%, Serbs 21%;
2007: Albanians 92%, Serbs 5%;
"All those are facts!" ;D
Serbian nationalists are conveniently forgetting that older census data from the Ottoman empire is unreliable and didn't account for "nationalities", but for religion affiliations.
Even so, Albanian muslims were still a majority in the Kosovo Vilayet (Vilayet = adminstrative division of the Ottoman empire)
Moreover serbian nationalists are conveniently forgetting that the retaking of Kosovo by Serbia in 1912 resulted in a suppression of the local muslim Albanian population and ethnic cleansing.
In this context it's also worth mentioning that Serbia has even occupied Albania, claiming that if Austria-Hungary can occupy Bosnia and Italy can occupy Libya, then Serbia is entitled to occupy Albania. #whataboutism ::)
While playing the victim role, serbian nationalists are also conveniently forgetting this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Albanians_in_the_Balkan_Wars
We can also compare it with Catalonia where 90%+ people that voted chose independence on democratic referendum and police used force to stop them but I haven't seen NATO intervening.
1. What country are you from?
2. 101 UN states have recognized Kosovo.
3. As a result of the 1999 war between Serbs and Albanians, the region came under UN control.
4. On February 17, 2008, the parliament of Kosovo declared independence.
5. 92% of Albanians live in Kosovo.
6. In 1974, the autonomous rights of the territory of Kosovo were extended and these rights were equated with other republics of Yugoslavia.
Conclusions: When a country breaks up, in this case Yugoslavia, the emergence of a country like Kosovo is quite logical and democratic. And in vain you support Serbia here.
There is no need to compare with Crimea. It's like comparing a monkey and a human.
7. If you do not support Serbia, then you should be grateful to NATO for helping to end the civil war in Kosovo. As a result of the war, a new state of Kosovo emerged.
I do not like how the media in other countries hush up the terrorist act of Russia at the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station and its consequences. The information is presented in a very concise form, much is not said and it is not said that the fault lies with Russia. Also, I do not see enough reaction from the democratic countries. For example, if the Russians blow up a hydroelectric power station in Germany or Italy and flood a lot of territory, the reaction will be completely different. No new sanctions are being introduced against Russia, tamahawks do not fly at Russian military facilities, Ukraine is not given missiles with a range of 1000 km or more.
The explosion of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station is the first stage before the explosion of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant. The Russians look at the reaction of the world, and see, nothing threatening them. If anyone does not know, the Russians have long since fully mined the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant and storage facilities for nuclear waste. The Russians want to blow up the nuclear power plant. After that, they will say that we did not blow up anything, this is all allegedly because the water level has dropped in the Kakhovka storage reservoir. Also, the Russians will say that the Ukrainians blew up the nuclear power plant. And the whole world will chew snot, shrug and express concern. Nobody wants to think about where the wind will carry the radioactive dust. Nobody is doing anything.
Democratic countries are very much like ostriches that have buried their heads in the sand.
What are Trump prospects in next year's elections? Why is he not removed from the elections, because there are many investigations against him? One Capitol attack is worth something.
Australia, the United States of America and Ukraine are negotiating the possible supply of American F/A-18 Hornet fighters to Kyiv. This was reported by The Australian Financial Review on June 6, citing its own sources.
The publication notes that it is about 41 aircraft of the Royal Australian Air Force, which were previously planned to simply be written off.
As the journalists note, in this way, the request of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyi regarding combat aviation may be partially fulfilled.
There is also a threat to democracy. This is DeSantis. He's a Trump fan, announced his candidacy in future elections, and apparently has a good attitude towards Russia. It seems he said that he was against the supply of weapons to Ukraine.What are Trump prospects in next year's elections? Why is he not removed from the elections, because there are many investigations against him? One Capitol attack is worth something.
Well, on a historic note: he is now the first former president to be indicted on a federal charge for violations against the Espionage Act.
There is also a threat to democracy.What are Trump prospects in next year's elections? Why is he not removed from the elections, because there are many investigations against him? One Capitol attack is worth something.
Well, on a historic note: he is now the first former president to be indicted on a federal charge for violations against the Espionage Act.
Five Eyes documents spilled on the floor and then were photographed. The documents that spilled onto the floor included the marking “FVEY.”
The Five Eyes are the United States and its closest allies — the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. They share some of the most sensitive information with each other.
Yes.He probably wants to be like Kennedy. I think that the end of the Vietnam War was the defeat of the United States in the war against communism in Southeast Asia. With subsequent consequences for democracy. Even now, the US is afraid to join the battle, and immediately there are those who remember Vietnam. But the United States could well have won in Vietnam (if not for people like Lennon). DeSantis will definitely stop helping Ukraine if he becomes president. And this will be a threat to many EU countries.
His megalomania is also a threat to the national security of people all around the world, to mine and to everyone who lives in the USA, Britain, New Zealand, and Canada.
A good scenario for the series Homeland. I read it, but they don’t write about the content of secret documents. In any case, this is a failure of the CIA and a blow to the US reputation as a reliable partner. Trump has ties to the Russians, and is likely passing classified information to them. I heard the story that Trump demanded that the CIA give him the name of a CIA agent in the Kremlin. The CIA was forced to immediately evacuate this man and his entire family. And only after that Trump received this information. The loss of an agent in the Kremlin is a very strong blow to the work of the CIA. As a result, we see how the Russians confidently and brazenly commit murders and terrorist acts. The CIA did not seem to know at all when the Russians would blow up the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, as a result it was not possible to prevent this act of terrorism and a lot of people and animals are now dying in Ukraine.QuoteFive Eyes documents spilled on the floor and then were photographed. The documents that spilled onto the floor included the marking “FVEY.”https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2023/06/politics/annotated-trump-indictment-dg/
The Five Eyes are the United States and its closest allies — the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. They share some of the most sensitive information with each other.
Women will give birth to new ones[/i]Oh yes, this is the basic philosophy of the Russians. So said their "hero" Zhukov. According to this principle, the Russians fought during the Second World War, they were given either shovels in their hands or 1 rifle for two soldiers and sent in crowds to artillery, machine-gun bunkers or under tanks. Russians are proud of their army, its methods, drink vodka on May 9th and run with Russian flags all over the world. They are wild medieval people. Russians are very similar to the zombies from the movie apocalypse.
So please, show me proof and motive and maybe I will be convinced.
That is no proof :)So please, show me proof and motive and maybe I will be convinced.
ThisSo please, show me proof and motive and maybe I will be convinced.
This is the genocide of the Ukrainian people.
Unfortunately, the information turned out to be false. These planes are owned by some private organization in Australia and the Australian government has nothing to do with these planes. In general, most likely these aircraft will not be handed over to Ukraine.Australia, the United States of America and Ukraine are negotiating the possible supply of American F/A-18 Hornet fighters to Kyiv. This was reported by The Australian Financial Review on June 6, citing its own sources.
The publication notes that it is about 41 aircraft of the Royal Australian Air Force, which were previously planned to simply be written off.
As the journalists note, in this way, the request of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyi regarding combat aviation may be partially fulfilled.
Thanks for informing us. I didn't know about this until I read it here. It wasn't on CNN - or maybe I missed it. But yes, 41 hornet fighter jets.
Unfortunately, the information turned out to be false. These planes are owned by some private organization in Australia and the Australian government has nothing to do with these planes. In general, most likely these aircraft will not be handed over to Ukraine.Australia, the United States of America and Ukraine are negotiating the possible supply of American F/A-18 Hornet fighters to Kyiv. This was reported by The Australian Financial Review on June 6, citing its own sources.
The publication notes that it is about 41 aircraft of the Royal Australian Air Force, which were previously planned to simply be written off.
As the journalists note, in this way, the request of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyi regarding combat aviation may be partially fulfilled.
Thanks for informing us. I didn't know about this until I read it here. It wasn't on CNN - or maybe I missed it. But yes, 41 hornet fighter jets.
:(
"Sources close to the negotiations informed ABC that RAVN Aerospace is willing to "on-sell" the Hornets to Ukraine but requires approval from the White House due to the presence of American intellectual property in the fourth-generation fighters."Unfortunately, the information turned out to be false. These planes are owned by some private organization in Australia and the Australian government has nothing to do with these planes. In general, most likely these aircraft will not be handed over to Ukraine.Australia, the United States of America and Ukraine are negotiating the possible supply of American F/A-18 Hornet fighters to Kyiv. This was reported by The Australian Financial Review on June 6, citing its own sources.
The publication notes that it is about 41 aircraft of the Royal Australian Air Force, which were previously planned to simply be written off.
As the journalists note, in this way, the request of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyi regarding combat aviation may be partially fulfilled.
Thanks for informing us. I didn't know about this until I read it here. It wasn't on CNN - or maybe I missed it. But yes, 41 hornet fighter jets.
:(
Are you sure, Stoker? I find it hard to believe that a private Australian company would own 40+ fighter jets? We are not that big a country, with less than 1/10th of the population of USA.
Where did you get your info from?
I did, however, just find 2 recent articles from 2 and 3 days ago, that reported that there are 46 decommissioned hornet jets located at the RAAF base in Williamstown (that's in the Australian state of Victoria) and the deal is possibly still being negotiated. RAAF stands for the Royal Australian Air Force.
https://www.ibtimes.com/are-australian-f--18-hornets-ukraines-radar-conflict-russia-3700153 (https://www.ibtimes.com/are-australian-f--18-hornets-ukraines-radar-conflict-russia-3700153)
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ukraine-interest-australia-f-18-004235504.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ukraine-interest-australia-f-18-004235504.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall)
If I lived in that state, I would drive down myself to see if they are there. :D
Lizard,
this comparison is useless for the argumentation in my view.
If a regional government creates a referendum and only allows the people of that region to vote, this is not a correct democratic process, because the regional government was not authorised by the Spanish constitution to hold a referendum.
If tomorrow the local politicians in Istria hold a referendum to separate Istria from Croatia, the Croatian government would rightly oppose it. Italy would resist if Lombardy did the same. And in these fictitious cases, too, I see no reason why NATO should interfere there.
In contrast to Catalonia, which sought autonomy, the Crimea, the Donbass or Luhansk are not about autonomy, but about becoming part of the Russian empire - that is a completely different background!
Lizard,
this comparison is useless for the argumentation in my view.
If a regional government creates a referendum and only allows the people of that region to vote, this is not a correct democratic process, because the regional government was not authorised by the Spanish constitution to hold a referendum.
If tomorrow the local politicians in Istria hold a referendum to separate Istria from Croatia, the Croatian government would rightly oppose it. Italy would resist if Lombardy did the same. And in these fictitious cases, too, I see no reason why NATO should interfere there.
In contrast to Catalonia, which sought autonomy, the Crimea, the Donbass or Luhansk are not about autonomy, but about becoming part of the Russian empire - that is a completely different background!
Yes and that's exactly what happened in Kosovo. The local separatist Albanian authorities of autonomic province of Kosovo held an illegal independence referendum within the autonomy between 26 and 30 September 1991, and they were not authorized by Serbian republic government of which Kosovo region was essential part of. Then they established paramilitary troops and started ethnically cleaning Serbian population.
So this is same exact example as the ones you stated above.
Can you point out any other differences for discussion, cause as someone who knows the history of the region I don't see any ?
Lizard, you do not know the history of Ukraine. If Kosovo became an independent country, a republic, there were historical grounds for this. Then such regions as the Donbass (or rather, some areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions), Crimea and part of the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions were stupidly attached to Russia by the Russian Fuhrer Putin. Do you understand the difference between the independent country of Kosovo (recognized by the UN) and the regions of Ukraine that are occupied and annexed by Russian fascists and terrorists? Do you see any difference between a monkey and a human? (or soon you will begin to write that a man and a monkey are one and the same).
Lizard,
this comparison is useless for the argumentation in my view.
If a regional government creates a referendum and only allows the people of that region to vote, this is not a correct democratic process, because the regional government was not authorised by the Spanish constitution to hold a referendum.
If tomorrow the local politicians in Istria hold a referendum to separate Istria from Croatia, the Croatian government would rightly oppose it. Italy would resist if Lombardy did the same. And in these fictitious cases, too, I see no reason why NATO should interfere there.
In contrast to Catalonia, which sought autonomy, the Crimea, the Donbass or Luhansk are not about autonomy, but about becoming part of the Russian empire - that is a completely different background!
Yes and that's exactly what happened in Kosovo. The local separatist Albanian authorities of autonomic province of Kosovo held an illegal independence referendum within the autonomy between 26 and 30 September 1991, and they were not authorized by Serbian republic government of which Kosovo region was essential part of. Then they established paramilitary troops and started ethnically cleaning Serbian population.
So this is same exact example as the ones you stated above.
Can you point out any other differences for discussion, cause as someone who knows the history of the region I don't see any ?
voices can be heard there again and again that these regions would be better off if they did not have to feed the "poor" part of their country.I will add that there are a lot of voices there from Russian provocateurs and KGB agents. The Russian empire needs to destabilize the situation in the democratic world, so if you see separatist rallies, then there are a lot of Russians there who are fueling the protests.
You do realize you are talking to yourself here, right?Wrong, as usual. He is clearly talking to you. That makes at least 3, counting myself. ;)
In fact, I don’t talk to anyone and I don’t write to anyone specifically. I write because I can't not write. When people have questions, I answer if I know the answer.You do realize you are talking to yourself here, right?Wrong, as usual. He is clearly talking to you. That makes at least 3, counting myself. ;)
Ukrodreams, writing for the sake of writing. Keep on if you have nothing else to do. Reality is very different from your dreams.
Ukrodreams, writing for the sake of writing. Keep on if you have nothing else to do. Reality is very different from your dreams.See how wrong you are, SVH? He is talking to at least 4 of us! :P
In other words, today, more than half of his confirmed audience is made of putin apologists.
And that's very good! 👍
He's better than CNN ;);D :o 8)
Ukrodreams, writing for the sake of writing. Keep on if you have nothing else to do. Reality is very different from your dreams.See how wrong you are, SVH? He is talking to at least 4 of us! :P
In other words, today, more than half of his confirmed audience is made of putin apologists.
And that's very good! 👍
You are right. Good to see he still has an audience. I was almost feeling sorry for him :)
You do realize you are talking to yourself here, right? 22 posts in a row from just you, with me now interrupting your winning streak.
Well as long as you are having fun :)
You do realize you are talking to yourself here, right? 22 posts in a row from just you, with me now interrupting your winning streak.
Well as long as you are having fun :)
I am reading that. However, I have inflammation in my wrist. Therefore, at the moment it hurts me to write and therefore I do not participate in due measure.
You do realize you are talking to yourself here, right? 22 posts in a row from just you, with me now interrupting your winning streak.
Well as long as you are having fun :)
I am reading that. However, I have inflammation in my wrist. Therefore, at the moment it hurts me to write and therefore I do not participate in due measure.
I am just bringing his buddies back to this thread. See, everyone is here now again. You left him alone for quite some time, shame on you.
And you're welcome :)
You do realize you are talking to yourself here, right? 22 posts in a row from just you, with me now interrupting your winning streak.
Well as long as you are having fun :)
I am reading that. However, I have inflammation in my wrist. Therefore, at the moment it hurts me to write and therefore I do not participate in due measure.
I am just bringing his buddies back to this thread. See, everyone is here now again. You left him alone for quite some time, shame on you.
And you're welcome :)
I‘m not his buddy! And I left nobody alone!
As you could read, I was far from agreeing with everything he wrote. I have my reasons for that. But he deals with grievances very intensively and speaks his mind. And wants to defend the unjustly attacked nation. I appreciate that very much and he gets my full respect for that. That others here do not get from me. Because they are obviously not able to feel and understand what is going on in this battered nation and who is responsible for it.
You do realize you are talking to yourself here, right? 22 posts in a row from just you, with me now interrupting your winning streak.
Well as long as you are having fun :)
I am reading that. However, I have inflammation in my wrist. Therefore, at the moment it hurts me to write and therefore I do not participate in due measure.
I am just bringing his buddies back to this thread. See, everyone is here now again. You left him alone for quite some time, shame on you.
And you're welcome :)
I‘m not his buddy! And I left nobody alone!
As you could read, I was far from agreeing with everything he wrote. I have my reasons for that. But he deals with grievances very intensively and speaks his mind. And wants to defend the unjustly attacked nation. I appreciate that very much and he gets my full respect for that. That others here do not get from me. Because they are obviously not able to feel and understand what is going on in this battered nation and who is responsible for it.
wow, that's it in a nutshell. Brilliantly said, and I totally agree.
But I just came on, Wilm, to say I am so sorry you're not well, and wish you a speedy recovery.
During the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russia has forcibly transferred thousands of Ukrainian children to areas under its control, assigned them Russian citizenship, forcibly adopted them into Russian families, and created obstacles for their reunification with their parents and homeland.[3] The United Nations has stated that these deportations constitute war crimes.[3][4] The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for President of Russia Vladimir Putin[5] (who has explicitly supported the forced adoptions, including by enacting legislation to facilitate them)[6] and Children's Rights Commissioner Maria Lvova-Belova for their alleged involvement.[5] According to international law, including the 1948 Genocide Convention, such acts constitute genocide if done with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a nation or ethnic group.[7][a]Ukrodreams, writing for the sake of writing. Keep on if you have nothing else to do. Reality is very different from your dreams.See how wrong you are, SVH? He is talking to at least 4 of us! :P
In other words, today, more than half of his confirmed audience is made of putin apologists.
And that's very good! 👍
You are right. Good to see he still has an audience. I was almost feeling sorry for him :)
Don't worry about that.
A decent human being should rather empathize with the unimaginable pain his country and fellow citizens are going through, because of the immoral, illegal, and unprovoked russian invasion.
You should feel sorry for those:
- 492 murdered children
- 1,031 wounded children
- 9,083 murdered civilians (and that's excluding Mariupol, where we will most likely discover another genocide once it will be freed, after seeing hectares of mass graves from the Maxar satellites)
- 6.3 million refugees (without taking into consideration the forced deportation from the illegally annexed territories)
- 158,000 destroyed or damaged homes
- 1,544 hospitals, clinics, and other civilian medical facilities destroyed or damaged
- 3,328 schools, high schools, and universities destroyed or damaged
- 411 billion dollars in losses because of destroyed industrial capacities (like Azovstal or Azom) and that was before the destruction of the Nova Khakova dam.
- 55.7 billion dollars required to restore the environmental damages.
in brief, you should feel sorry for the genocide against the Ukrainian people, instead of stocker2014's perceived lack of audience. :-\
(and cut him some slack, when the emotional war news he is sharing are not always 100% accurate)
putin is a war criminal.
Slava Ukraini!
Horrible. Putin is such a mad killer. A modern day Hitler.In those years, not only Hitler was an absolute evil, but Stalin too. In modern russia, Russians consider Stalin to be their hero. Hitler and Stalin were war criminals and committed crimes against humanity. Putin sees himself rather as Stalin's legal successor, and so do Russians.
Never thought I would see German history being repeated like this.
Never thought I would see German history being repeated like this.
There is information for Australia.
An inventory at the Australian Air Force, at the request of Ukraine for fighters, found 14 serviceable F/A-18 Hornet aircraft. Journalists of the publication got access to a report on the inventory of the condition of the fighters owned by the Royal Australian Air Force. The procedure was carried out by the American aerospace company RAVN at the request of Ukraine.
As it became known, if Australia really wants to transfer the F/A-18 Hornets to the Ukrainian Air Force, then only 14 aircraft are in working condition. Among them there are 11 single and three double fighters.
Each aircraft has flown more than 3,000 hours, which is about half the border limit. At the same time, the possibility of extending the service life is not excluded, due to which Ukraine will potentially be able to use the F/A-18 Hornets for two years.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/retired-raaf-hornets-pitched-for-ukraine-can-fly-another-two-years-20230627-p5djpw (https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/retired-raaf-hornets-pitched-for-ukraine-can-fly-another-two-years-20230627-p5djpw)
I recommend to everyone who has not seen it to watch a film about the Holodomor in Ukraine.
Mr Jones (2019 film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Jones_(2019_film) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Jones_(2019_film))
trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o7VoM1jlOs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o7VoM1jlOs)
I must admit that for too long I swallowed the propaganda about Russia in WW2. Let's not forget the war started with Stalin and Hitler agreeing to divide Poland between themselves. Or the massacres of Poles perpetrated by Russia afterwards.Horrible. Putin is such a mad killer. A modern day Hitler.In those years, not only Hitler was an absolute evil, but Stalin too. In modern russia, Russians consider Stalin to be their hero. Hitler and Stalin were war criminals and committed crimes against humanity. Putin sees himself rather as Stalin's legal successor, and so do Russians.
Never thought I would see German history being repeated like this.
What can be said about Stalin, he committed a lot of crimes. The greatest crime is the Holodomor in 1932-1933 in Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor)
In total, Russians committed three Holodomors in Ukraine: 1921-1923, 1932-1933 and 1946-1947.
The problem is also that so far the totalitarian and fascist regime of the USSR has not been condemned by the world community. Therefore, putin and the Russians continue to act by the methods of Stalin and Hitler.
I recommend to everyone who has not seen it to watch a film about the Holodomor in Ukraine.
Mr Jones (2019 film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Jones_(2019_film) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Jones_(2019_film))
trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o7VoM1jlOs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o7VoM1jlOs)
I think that the assumption that putin is losing power is not true. The Russians showed the show they planned to show. All this insurrection was actually a well directed show.There is information for Australia.
An inventory at the Australian Air Force, at the request of Ukraine for fighters, found 14 serviceable F/A-18 Hornet aircraft. Journalists of the publication got access to a report on the inventory of the condition of the fighters owned by the Royal Australian Air Force. The procedure was carried out by the American aerospace company RAVN at the request of Ukraine.
As it became known, if Australia really wants to transfer the F/A-18 Hornets to the Ukrainian Air Force, then only 14 aircraft are in working condition. Among them there are 11 single and three double fighters.
Each aircraft has flown more than 3,000 hours, which is about half the border limit. At the same time, the possibility of extending the service life is not excluded, due to which Ukraine will potentially be able to use the F/A-18 Hornets for two years.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/retired-raaf-hornets-pitched-for-ukraine-can-fly-another-two-years-20230627-p5djpw (https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/retired-raaf-hornets-pitched-for-ukraine-can-fly-another-two-years-20230627-p5djpw)
Thanks for the update, Stoker!
Did you watch Fareed's GPS show on Sunday night CNN? It was a very interesting this week. In his opening remarks he talked about how the expected life of a 15yo boy in Russia is less than Haiti (extremely low) - and that was before the war on Ukraine.
His main segment was about Putin losing power - I found the clip for that. See below. And his final comments were about how USA politicians are overfunded by political-bias groups and should be limited. For example, the NRA. Which is exactly what we were talking about earlier in this thread.
This is the Putin part - I'll see if I can find the others.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/07/02/exp-gps-krushcheva-remnick-intv-070210aseg1-cnni-world.cnn (https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/07/02/exp-gps-krushcheva-remnick-intv-070210aseg1-cnni-world.cnn)
More about his show - worth pre-recording it and series link, if you haven't already.
https://edition.cnn.com/audio/podcasts/fareed-zakaria-gps/episodes/bcb64bcb-0d68-4a5d-883a-b033011867ce (https://edition.cnn.com/audio/podcasts/fareed-zakaria-gps/episodes/bcb64bcb-0d68-4a5d-883a-b033011867ce)
Yes, in 1932-1933, about 10 million Ukrainians to kill by starvation.
I recommend to everyone who has not seen it to watch a film about the Holodomor in Ukraine.
Mr Jones (2019 film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Jones_(2019_film) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Jones_(2019_film))
trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o7VoM1jlOs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o7VoM1jlOs)
Thanks for the recommendation.
I just finished watching it (on Amazon Prime)
Quite a shocking and gruesome scene, the one when he shared a meal with those children. :-\
One of the people I worked with there still hated the Germans 60 years after the war ended. Now Putin is trying to do in Ukraine what the Germans tried to do in Russia - and with the same effect.In fact, only Ukraine was completely occupied by the Nazi troops. Russia was occupied quite a bit. I give a photo.
The Russians are a wonderful people who deserve better leaders.:o :o :o
In what year or century were the Russians wonderful people?..
I've been to Russia five times and met many wonderful people. I am talking about them as individuals, not Russia as a political entity. In that case I agree that the Russians have been terrible throughout the centuries. However, individually they are just as good as people everywhere - very warm and fun loving despite centuries of being oppressed by bad leaders. Unfortunately I would not visit nowadays - too much chance of being held as a political pawn.
However, individually they are just as good as people everywhere - very warm and fun loving despite centuries of being oppressed by bad leaders.Oh yes, if you look at any one Russian, you may even get the impression that this Russian is adequate and even good, and does not look like a monkey. But as soon as these Russians gather in a group, they immediately turn into evil trolls, orcs and zombies. Russians by nationality appeared on planet earth only a few centuries ago, they are a mixture of different nations. Genetic error.
It's the degenerate nationalistic propaganda and constant brainwashing, from kindergarten onwards, flourishing on a religious and cultural foundation.
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Other countries are not immune to this cultural-religious essence ready to embrace nationalistic propaganda.
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These European an US citizens "left behind" are the ones who also caused Brexit and MAGA and the relaunch of fascism inside the EU and the US. Because putin/russia simply tells them what they want to hear, and they have the (false) sense that they understand putin better than their own children.
However, individually they are just as good as people everywhere - very warm and fun loving despite centuries of being oppressed by bad leaders.Oh yes, if you look at any one Russian, you may even get the impression that this Russian is adequate and even good, and does not look like a monkey. But as soon as these Russians gather in a group, they immediately turn into evil trolls, orcs and zombies. Russians by nationality appeared on planet earth only a few centuries ago, they are a mixture of different nations. Genetic error.
And you are mistaken, no one oppresses Russians, this is their way of life, mentality, philosophy.
But the problem is indeed that many russians that live abroad, who are integrated, for instance here in Germany, speak German, have a job, work well..are amazing supporters of putin.
He seems to be their murderous version of Trump.
And unlike the Germans in the 1930s after the * took over all media, they have access to any information they want right on their mobile phone.
And yet they choose to believe the most outrageous stuff, that Ukraine is destroying their own country, klling their own children just to take pictures and stage videos...
How is this possible?
I am seeing what is Germanys cruel history being recreated in 2023 in a totally public way.
For those in russia, I don't know what centuries of being slaves does to you.
But those abroad? Why?
I am seeing what is Germanys cruel history being recreated in 2023 in a totally public way.It is only recently that the world media began to talk about Russia and Russians. In fact, fascism has flourished in Russia since the days of Stalin and their revolution in 1917. And until 1917 the Russians were barbarians.
It's the degenerate nationalistic propaganda and constant brainwashing, from kindergarten onwards, flourishing on a religious and cultural foundation.
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Other countries are not immune to this cultural-religious essence ready to embrace nationalistic propaganda.
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These European an US citizens "left behind" are the ones who also caused Brexit and MAGA and the relaunch of fascism inside the EU and the US. Because putin/russia simply tells them what they want to hear, and they have the (false) sense that they understand putin better than their own children.
That pretty much sums it up. I've met many Russians who are good people and don't support what their government does, but can't do much about it or they will be put in jail or worse. Not all Russians are willing mass murderers! That would be like saying everyone in the US was a Christo-fascist bigot based on the previous person in the White House. Unfortunately, too many people are easily influenced by propaganda and get hyped up on nationalistic nonsense to do things they ordinarily would not. I am not defending them, it is just a sad commentary on our species.
The numbers in these images are mind boggling.I could write a lot of things in continuation of this post, a lot of sharp, tough, cruel but truthful thoughts. But I won't write it here. The truth often shocks people.
In 2023 millions of people don't have toilets, running water, warm water?
What kind of dictator is Putin?
Even the tyrants of the Middle East make sure people have running water. Unless it is an active war zone like in Yemen.
So why would those living abroad who truly know the difference still be attracted and of service to putin??
It is similar to asking why people love Trump or Erdogan, but putin is actively killing russians by the thousands and wants to enlist even more of their children.
How man of their sons have to die in a useless war putin cannot win?
It is similar to asking why people love TrumpFor some reason I think that the majority does not vote for Trump, but for the Republican Party.
And why russians abroad would worship the man who is destroying their country.It is a question or a statement?
Look at the influence and damage that MAGA, Brexit or other very nationalistic propaganda in other countries can do in a few years to well established democracies, and stretch that out over generations. This is what most Russians and their ancestors had to encounter and this is what you have to keep in mind when judging them. Most Russians have a history of living as peasants, living under very oppressive regimes and corruption-driven governments that just tells them what to do, how to think, how to act, with very harsh measures taken against opposing voices and movements. Many historians trying to understand what's currently going on refer to that history, and point out that most Russians are very apathic and negative towards their leaders and governments, but at the same time, just go along because they don't know any better, the ones who know better still go along because there is no way to fight the system, they just try to get by for themselves.:-\
Throw in the nostalgia some older generations feel for communism and the influence on the world Russia had back in those days and you get a better understanding why most Russians voice support for everything that Putin pulling of the last decade or so. It's business as usual for most of them, and a revival of the great Russia for others.
It is similar to asking why people love TrumpFor some reason I think that the majority does not vote for Trump, but for the Republican Party.
I don't want to read these sweeping and stereotypical assessments. They are wrong! They stir up hatred! More hatred. We need the opposite to avoid these senseless wars, which are based exactly on such stereotypical thinking.
The numbers in these images are mind boggling.
In 2023 millions of people don't have toilets, running water, warm water?
What kind of dictator is Putin?
Even the tyrants of the Middle East make sure people have running water. Unless it is an active war zone like in Yemen.
First time I'm reading this. In the same Congress, there are very few Republican supporters of Trump, only a few people.It is similar to asking why people love TrumpFor some reason I think that the majority does not vote for Trump, but for the Republican Party.
Not at all. The Republican Party IS trump's party. Those who still believe in traditional conservativism (instead of trump's national populism) are mocked and chastised as RINOs (Republicans In Name Only).
All Republicans must adhere to the cult of trump or else!
First time I'm reading this. In the same Congress, there are very few Republican supporters of Trump, only a few people.It is similar to asking why people love TrumpFor some reason I think that the majority does not vote for Trump, but for the Republican Party.
Not at all. The Republican Party IS trump's party. Those who still believe in traditional conservativism (instead of trump's national populism) are mocked and chastised as RINOs (Republicans In Name Only).
All Republicans must adhere to the cult of trump or else!
I would like to read analytics on this issue, as well as look at the results of social surveys among US citizens to see the real percentage of support for Trump.First time I'm reading this. In the same Congress, there are very few Republican supporters of Trump, only a few people.It is similar to asking why people love TrumpFor some reason I think that the majority does not vote for Trump, but for the Republican Party.
Not at all. The Republican Party IS trump's party. Those who still believe in traditional conservativism (instead of trump's national populism) are mocked and chastised as RINOs (Republicans In Name Only).
All Republicans must adhere to the cult of trump or else!
Sorry, but this is highly incorrect, Stoker! Today's Republican Party IS trump's party. With very few exceptions (e.g. Mitt Romney) virtually all elected "republicans" endorsed trump and trumpism.
They shouldn't even call themselves Republicans, anymore.
The GOP (Grand Old Party) is now nothing else but a Nationalist-Populist Party, as mentioned above.
I would like to read analytics on this issue, as well as look at the results of social surveys among US citizens to see the real percentage of support for Trump.
I would like to read analytics on this issue, as well as look at the results of social surveys among US citizens to see the real percentage of support for Trump.
The US system is crazy and not really democratic. It should be one human, one vote.Is not just the land.
That empty stretches of land have a higher value than millions of people is crazy.
Here I see the main answer to my question, Trump does not have serious support in the US.
I would like to read analytics on this issue, as well as look at the results of social surveys among US citizens to see the real percentage of support for Trump.
Here's a recent poll, but any poll you find will show similar things:
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/20/politics/cnn-poll-trump-indictment-republicans-2024/index.html
Just look at the record amount of donation money Trump keeps getting, or how full his rallys are.I am sure that the Russians transfer money there too.
Today Trump is the republican party.
I am aware of the problems in the US electoral system, but I am not a US citizen, so I cannot condemn or approve of this system. I am sure that when the vast majority of citizens are against Trump, then he will not win elections under any electoral system.
I would like to read analytics on this issue, as well as look at the results of social surveys among US citizens to see the real percentage of support for Trump.
I will repeat: you have to study how the US election system works.
In the US, what the majority wants doesn't matter as much as in a normal democracy.
The majority of the voters was against trump, and yet he became president in 2016, despite losing the popular vote.
He was very close to victory in 2020, without wining the popular vote.
The majority of the population IS against trump today, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have a solid chance to become president again.
Even though there might be a small majority winning you still have a completely divided country. If it was not Trump there will be somebody else. People are getting divided more and more and not just in the US. Europe the same. All parties spreading hate against each other.The US system is crazy and not really democratic. It should be one human, one vote.Is not just the land.
That empty stretches of land have a higher value than millions of people is crazy.
The "winner takes all" principle led to the widespread gerrymandering anomaly.
Those in power can stay in power by carving the election districts in a favorable way: where they lose, they lose 100%, and where they win, they barely win 51%-49%. This way, a party losing the popular vote, can send more representatives in congress.
This can be understood with a tennis analogy: one can win a tennis match, despite losing more games.
Something like winnig 3 sets to 2, with the game the scores of 0-6, 0-6, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4 => the match winner won 18 games, while the loser won 24 games.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering
Here is the list of elected officials who endorsed trump, during the last elections: count them and you will see that it's virtually all the GoP members of the congress.
Where can I read what kind of support Trump has among congressmen in the Republican Party?
... and here is the percentage of the population using improved water supplies in 2022 in Europe:
It's not quite right. Supporting the elections is one thing, the Republicans are obliged to do it. But to support or not to support Trump's policies and vote for something in Congress is completely different. As far as I know, Trump has very few supporters in Congress who are ready to vote for any nonsense.Here is the list of elected officials who endorsed trump, during the last elections: count them and you will see that it's virtually all the GoP members of the congress.
Where can I read what kind of support Trump has among congressmen in the Republican Party?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Donald_Trump_2020_presidential_campaign_political_endorsements
... and here is the percentage of the population using improved water supplies in 2022 in Europe:
hi zero talent i am kind of curious to know where did you find this graphic? is it from Unicef too? Can you post the link?
thanks in advance!
I am aware of the problems in the US electoral system, but I am not a US citizen, so I cannot condemn or approve of this system. I am sure that when the vast majority of citizens are against Trump, then he will not win elections under any electoral system.
In 2016, Russian hackers and trolls helped Trump win a lot. It also played against Hilary that she was a woman, not a man.
But the problem is indeed that many russians that live abroad, who are integrated, for instance here in Germany, speak German, have a job, work well..are amazing supporters of putin.
He seems to be their murderous version of Trump.
And unlike the Germans in the 1930s after the * took over all media, they have access to any information they want right on their mobile phone.
And yet they choose to believe the most outrageous stuff, that Ukraine is destroying their own country, klling their own children just to take pictures and stage videos...
How is this possible?
I am seeing what is Germanys cruel history being recreated in 2023 in a totally public way.
For those in russia, I don't know what centuries of being slaves does to you.
But those abroad? Why?
I am aware, Stoker, that you keep saying that congress will not support Trump, but I haven't seen any stats for that - do you have some?I know that there are Republicans and there are Trumpists (the Trumpist wing). And it's not the same.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/06/15/more-than-four-in-ten-republicans-now-say-the-us-is-providing-too-much-aid-to-ukraine/ (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/06/15/more-than-four-in-ten-republicans-now-say-the-us-is-providing-too-much-aid-to-ukraine/)100-44=56.
"Currently, 44% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say the U.S. is giving too much aid to Ukraine, up modestly since January (40%) and the highest level since shortly after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine last year.
Just 14% of Democrats and Democratic leaners view the current level of U.S. aid as excessive, little changed in recent months."
I have one troll on me at the moment. He follows everything I do, he hacks accounts, or creates fake ones, and messages me on platforms that my work is uploaded to that he can reach me. He's always at his worse when its Friday or Saturday night in the USA - I am guessing that is when he hits the bottle. His actions are all geared to saying to me, 'I know everything you do, I know how to manipulate you into closing your accounts, find minor faults with everything you do, destroy any pleasure in what you do, and therefore I AM BETTER THAN YOU'.That is terrible Annie.
Stoker, here is a relevant example:You didn't fully understand me. I am anti-Trump.
The Senate voted 86-11 to pass a $40 billion Ukraine aid bill. The Senate also passed a $1.7 trillion government funding bill that included Ukraine aid. The Senate voted 68-29 for the funding package....
All of the "no" votes came from Republicans.
House of Representatives voted 368-57 to pass a roughly $40 billion bill to deliver aid to Ukraine...
All 57 votes in opposition were from Republicans.
This will become much worse if trump becomes president again, since he is one of the biggest putin apologists.
Listen to me: the biggest threat for Ukraine, excluding putin, comes from the growing "Ukraine fatigue" inside the GoP.
As I said before, today's GoP is a far cry from what it used to be.
On the other hand, I agree with you that Obama made a big strategic mistake trying to appease putin by closing his eyes on the annexation of Crimea.
Stoker, here is a relevant example:You didn't fully understand me. I am anti-Trump.
The Senate voted 86-11 to pass a $40 billion Ukraine aid bill. The Senate also passed a $1.7 trillion government funding bill that included Ukraine aid. The Senate voted 68-29 for the funding package....
All of the "no" votes came from Republicans.
House of Representatives voted 368-57 to pass a roughly $40 billion bill to deliver aid to Ukraine...
All 57 votes in opposition were from Republicans.
This will become much worse if trump becomes president again, since he is one of the biggest putin apologists.
Listen to me: the biggest threat for Ukraine, excluding putin, comes from the growing "Ukraine fatigue" inside the GoP.
As I said before, today's GoP is a far cry from what it used to be.
On the other hand, I agree with you that Obama made a big strategic mistake trying to appease putin by closing his eyes on the annexation of Crimea.
Yes, there are votes against from the Republicans, but as you can see for yourself, there are not many at all. This is most likely the Trump wing.
Understand that money is not everything in this world. What to do with money on the battlefield? For the rapid and massive elimination of Russians, aviation and long-range missiles are needed. It is also necessary that Ukraine is not prohibited from firing rockets at the Crimea, the Crimean bridge and at the territory of Russia. So, it is the Democrats who do not give Ukraine what is now needed on the battlefield. I know that the Republicans in the majority put pressure on the Democrats and demand to give more and more weapons to Ukraine. Not everything is decided by Trump.
It is too bad that the Republicans have not found anyone else and are constantly nominating Trump. But obviously their electorate for some reason only votes well for Trump. I have no illusions about Trump.
Just about, Bill Clinton took weapons from Ukraine, Obama closed his eyes, and Biden did not introduce normal sanctions in time, and now, as for me, sanctions against Russia are not enough. That is the policy of the Democrats. And I already wrote about the Budapest memorandum, which is generally bullying from the Democrats.
... I forgot about another GoP candidate, Vivek Ramaswamy who is parroting putin's propaganda:
Here is his latest tweet:
@JoeBiden needs to man up to his bully-friend Zelensky & clearly state that we are dead-set opposed to Ukrainian admission to NATO. This should be a hard red line. It’s shameful that even Republicans like @LindseyGrahamSC are now pushing for it. Stop marching us to the brink of nuclear war. For all the hand-wringing about the 1994 Budapest Memorandum (on which the U.S. has more than fulfilled its commitments), the neocon-Democrat establishment is shockingly silent on James Baker’s famous 1990 “Not-One-Inch” commitment to Gorbachev that NATO would never extend east of Germany. NATO was created to deter conflict with the USSR, yet NATO has expanded most rapidly *after* the fall of the USSR & is now *worsening* the risk of nuclear war with Russia itself. This is sheer lunacy. As President I’ll refuse to be bullied by an anti-democratic comedian-turned-leader & it’s truly mystifying to me that the rest of the West is eating out of this Pied Piper’s hand every day.
Lol.
He is yet another useful idiot, craving for attention and as wrong as putin (or medvedev), whose words he is parroting.
Go back some pages and you will see that the whole story about Baker and Gorbachev, (disproved and discussed ad-nauseam) is a proof of how effective russian propaganda is, and a crass distortion of the reality, by fools, by those putin apologists with interest in sawing discord among allies, or by those trying to differentiate themselves from common sense people, no matter how, like our wannabe president, Vivek.
The nuclear war threat is a nice play by putin, a good poker player, who fooled many western leaders (Obama inclusive), afraid for too long to call his bluff.
And that is the problem with social democrats these days, like you.You got me wrong as everything else. I'm NOT a social democrat.
Your beloved president Biden...You got me wrong, again, like everything else. Biden is NOT my "beloved" president. He is simply the only alternative at hand, instead of a trump disaster.
I bet I will win an IQ test against you any time.Playing the "mine-is-bigger-than-yours" teenage games tells everything that needs to be known about someone's IQ ;D
I have one troll on me at the moment. He follows everything I do, he hacks accounts, or creates fake ones, and messages me on platforms that my work is uploaded to that he can reach me. He's always at his worse when its Friday or Saturday night in the USA - I am guessing that is when he hits the bottle. His actions are all geared to saying to me, 'I know everything you do, I know how to manipulate you into closing your accounts, find minor faults with everything you do, destroy any pleasure in what you do, and therefore I AM BETTER THAN YOU'.That is terrible Annie.
Can't the stock agencies or the police help expose and get this person? This is criminal and should not be gone by.
Good luck with this. I hope the person gets caught and you get left alone.
I hope that the idiot can be tracked out!+1
But the anti-interventionist wing is dominant in terms of influence, with two members, Donald J. Trump and Ron DeSantis, far outpolling everybody else.[/i]I like the Republicans on matters of military foreign policy. And I don't like the Democrats very much, sorry about that. When the world is dealing with fascism, rashism, genocide, democrats are not very effective. Democrats do more harm than good.
PS (about presidential candidates):They say that Ukraine needs to deliver on time what is needed right now. They talk about aviation and long-range missiles.
The old school has more adherents in the 2024 field, including Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, and Tim Scott, who support sending Ukraine military equipment and weapons but not troops. This aligns with President Biden’s strategy, though they maintain that Mr. Biden is executing it wrong.
Armed Forces of Ukraine eliminate 231,030 Russian invaders already.
(https://static.ukrinform.com/photos/2023_07/1688450569-782.jpg)
Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!
I think the most important thing coming out of this horror is that Europe must really learn to stand on their own feet and not rely on Uncle Sam as their battle angel for everything.
It is not enough to just send money, you need active war production and a really well trained European army. The US involvement to help Ukraine shouldn't even be necessary.
Ukraine should very soon be offered a joining of Nato. That should come first, long before getting into the EU. The latter is a very long and complicated process that will take over 10 years to complete, even without the burden of rebuilding.
But Europe should consider negotiating a security deal and easy work arrangements and travel with Ukrainians.
As for the data of the killed Russian soldiers, a publication appeared today. According to the study, approx. 47,000 Russian soldiers have died.This is the data of the Russians, there is a lie. Do not believe what the Russians write.
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/07/10/bring-out-your-dead (https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/07/10/bring-out-your-dead)
I think the most important thing coming out of this horror is that Europe must really learn to stand on their own feet and not rely on Uncle Sam as their battle angel for everything.EU countries should increase defense spending and contributions to the NATO budget accordingly. Also, Europe must understand that Russians are murderers, terrorists, criminals, barbarians, orcs and zombies. When this understanding comes, there will be no place for Russians in the democratic world.
It is not enough to just send money, you need active war production and a really well trained European army. The US involvement to help Ukraine shouldn't even be necessary.
Ukraine should very soon be offered a joining of Nato. That should come first, long before getting into the EU. The latter is a very long and complicated process that will take over 10 years to complete, even without the burden of rebuilding.
But Europe should consider negotiating a security deal and easy work arrangements and travel with Ukrainians.
As we have seen during the previous 2 presidential elections, virtually all the GoP will openly endorse trump, as soon as he will become the party nominee.Of course the party will support Trump, otherwise the Republican needs to leave the party. But that doesn't mean anything. Many Republicans will not vote for the crap that Trump will propose.
Moreover, they will have to listen to what their voters are asking them to do (see the polls mentioned above).
As we have seen during the previous 2 presidential elections, virtually all the GoP will openly endorse trump, as soon as he will become the party nominee.Of course the party will support Trump, otherwise the Republican needs to leave the party. But that doesn't mean anything. Many Republicans will not vote for the crap that Trump will propose.
Moreover, they will have to listen to what their voters are asking them to do (see the polls mentioned above).
I don't understand what voter asking you're talking about.
I already wrote that 44% is a minority. Let's see the rest of your predictions. I don't want Trump in the White House. But even if he wins the elections, nothing catastrophic for Ukraine will happen. Little help from Biden either.As we have seen during the previous 2 presidential elections, virtually all the GoP will openly endorse trump, as soon as he will become the party nominee.Of course the party will support Trump, otherwise the Republican needs to leave the party. But that doesn't mean anything. Many Republicans will not vote for the crap that Trump will propose.
Moreover, they will have to listen to what their voters are asking them to do (see the polls mentioned above).
I don't understand what voter asking you're talking about.
The elected representatives will have to listen to this:
Currently, 44% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say the U.S. is giving too much aid to Ukraine, up modestly since January (40%) and the highest level since shortly after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine last year.
If they don't, they will not get elected.
And when trump will win the nomination, this number will go up, beyond 50%.
I understand that you have a nostalgia for the old school GoP. That's understandable. I too miss the existence of a true conservative movement in the US.
What you fail to realize is that these days are gone.
The days of McCain's GoP are gone. McCain was and still is disparaged, even after his death, by trump and his supporters in a nasty way. The same for the other old school Republicans they call "RINOs".
And if trump becomes president again, you can kiss goodbye to all aid for Ukraine. No GoP representative will dare to vote against him.
Your only realistic hope is to have anyone but trump in the White House and as few as possible of his cult followers in Congress.
Isn't it about time, that if Ukraine is your home nation as Zero says, you get away from your computer and go and fight beside your brothers and sisters? I hear all this hate from you but you are not pulling a lot of weight yourself, are you? Or did I miss something and are you disabled and can only vomit hate all the time on this forum?I already wrote that 44% is a minority. Let's see the rest of your predictions. I don't want Trump in the White House. But even if he wins the elections, nothing catastrophic for Ukraine will happen. Little help from Biden either.As we have seen during the previous 2 presidential elections, virtually all the GoP will openly endorse trump, as soon as he will become the party nominee.Of course the party will support Trump, otherwise the Republican needs to leave the party. But that doesn't mean anything. Many Republicans will not vote for the crap that Trump will propose.
Moreover, they will have to listen to what their voters are asking them to do (see the polls mentioned above).
I don't understand what voter asking you're talking about.
The elected representatives will have to listen to this:
Currently, 44% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say the U.S. is giving too much aid to Ukraine, up modestly since January (40%) and the highest level since shortly after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine last year.
If they don't, they will not get elected.
And when trump will win the nomination, this number will go up, beyond 50%.
I understand that you have a nostalgia for the old school GoP. That's understandable. I too miss the existence of a true conservative movement in the US.
What you fail to realize is that these days are gone.
The days of McCain's GoP are gone. McCain was and still is disparaged, even after his death, by trump and his supporters in a nasty way. The same for the other old school Republicans they call "RINOs".
And if trump becomes president again, you can kiss goodbye to all aid for Ukraine. No GoP representative will dare to vote against him.
Your only realistic hope is to have anyone but trump in the White House and as few as possible of his cult followers in Congress.
Yes, the Republicans don’t have a normal leader now, but I definitely won’t bury the party, who I am.
As for the data of the killed Russian soldiers, a publication appeared today. According to the study, approx. 47,000 Russian soldiers have died.
Is this a good time to bring up Volhynia? There was a commemoration after all last week (the massive slaughter of Polish and Jewish people by Ukrainian nationalists).
https://www.euronews.com/2023/07/07/polish-demand-for-recognition-of-wwii-massacres-sparks-row-with-ukraine (https://www.euronews.com/2023/07/07/polish-demand-for-recognition-of-wwii-massacres-sparks-row-with-ukraine)
I bring this up because it's strange that the leaders of that massacre (like Stepan Bandera), are still being seen as heroes today in Ukraine, even increasingly the last few months. They should know better by now.
As for the data of the killed Russian soldiers, a publication appeared today. According to the study, approx. 47,000 Russian soldiers have died.This is the data of the Russians, there is a lie. Do not believe what the Russians write.
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/07/10/bring-out-your-dead (https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/07/10/bring-out-your-dead)
Biden said that 100,000 Russians were liquidated in Bakhmut alone. And Bayhmut is only 10% of the front, if not less.
Those figures that I gave are still very much underestimated, you can multiply by 1.5 or 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzlXFYvqKiw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzlXFYvqKiw)
No, it is not strange. The Ukrainian statehood is relatively fresh. And any nation, especially a young one, needs some heroes, any kind of heroes...
But Bandera will be soon forgotten, there will be no need for such "heroes", especially when that "hero" is despised by one of their most important allies.
After the war, there will be countless new Ukrainian heroes who defended their country against Mordor and the genocide that its orcs brought with them.
And all the tankies and vatniks of the world can weep as much as they want and they will not be able to change it. Both Ukrainians and Poles understand that they must be friends and that there is no alternative.
Ukrainian-Polish brotherhood is a fact now, Russia is being demilitarized, Ukraine will be in NATO and the EU, Finland has joined NATO, Europe doesn't need Russian gas anymore, Russia is a vassal state of China. A piece of sh** would have been a more successful Russian president than putin, and a better choice for Russia. And if putin owns Trump, what does it say about Trump?
EU countries should...
What photos that I posted here cause you doubts?As for the data of the killed Russian soldiers, a publication appeared today. According to the study, approx. 47,000 Russian soldiers have died.This is the data of the Russians, there is a lie. Do not believe what the Russians write.
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/07/10/bring-out-your-dead (https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/07/10/bring-out-your-dead)
Biden said that 100,000 Russians were liquidated in Bakhmut alone. And Bayhmut is only 10% of the front, if not less.
Those figures that I gave are still very much underestimated, you can multiply by 1.5 or 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzlXFYvqKiw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzlXFYvqKiw)
I don't believe anything because I have no idea what to believe.
I just wanted to express that different sources come to different numbers. How you can be sure that the figures you mentioned are correct or even significantly underestimated, as you write, I don't know either.
By the way, Dmitry Kobak is someone who has already uncovered Russia's embellished Corona statistics. According to his investigations, more than four times as many Russians died of corona than the Russian government's figures indicated.
I find it hard to believe that he would now have a scientific interest in whitewashing the numbers of deaths from the war.
If I were you, I would not believe the truth of all the pictures you publish here.
It is quite enough for the Russian trolls to cover the whole planet with countless untruths. We should not jump on this bandwagon!
Oh, Volhynia, Bandera, Ukrainian Insurgent Army, these are all Russian propaganda narratives. A lot of Poles died at the hands of the Russians and a lot of Poles were deported to Siberia. Do not read Russian trolls like SVH, I have it on ignore.Is this a good time to bring up Volhynia? There was a commemoration after all last week (the massive slaughter of Polish and Jewish people by Ukrainian nationalists).
https://www.euronews.com/2023/07/07/polish-demand-for-recognition-of-wwii-massacres-sparks-row-with-ukraine (https://www.euronews.com/2023/07/07/polish-demand-for-recognition-of-wwii-massacres-sparks-row-with-ukraine)
I bring this up because it's strange that the leaders of that massacre (like Stepan Bandera), are still being seen as heroes today in Ukraine, even increasingly the last few months. They should know better by now.
No, it is not strange. The Ukrainian statehood is relatively fresh. And any nation, especially a young one, needs some heroes, any kind of heroes...
But Bandera will be soon forgotten, there will be no need for such "heroes", especially when that "hero" is despised by one of their most important allies.
After the war, there will be countless new Ukrainian heroes who defended their country against Mordor and the genocide that its orcs brought with them.
And all the tankies and vatniks of the world can weep as much as they want and they will not be able to change it. Both Ukrainians and Poles understand that they must be friends and that there is no alternative.
Ukrainian-Polish brotherhood is a fact now, Russia is being demilitarized, Ukraine will be in NATO and the EU, Finland has joined NATO, Europe doesn't need Russian gas anymore, Russia is a vassal state of China. A piece of sh** would have been a more successful Russian president than putin, and a better choice for Russia. And if putin owns Trump, what does it say about Trump?
Bendera is in similar position, between a rock and a hard place: he had to make an alliance with Stalin's enemies to fight for an independent Ukraine.The union was very short and the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists left it very quickly. But Russia, until the last day, supported the German fascists, helped them with food and trained their SS men (Schutzstaffel).
What photos that I posted here cause you doubts?As for the data of the killed Russian soldiers, a publication appeared today. According to the study, approx. 47,000 Russian soldiers have died.This is the data of the Russians, there is a lie. Do not believe what the Russians write.
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/07/10/bring-out-your-dead (https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/07/10/bring-out-your-dead)
Biden said that 100,000 Russians were liquidated in Bakhmut alone. And Bayhmut is only 10% of the front, if not less.
Those figures that I gave are still very much underestimated, you can multiply by 1.5 or 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzlXFYvqKiw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzlXFYvqKiw)
I don't believe anything because I have no idea what to believe.
I just wanted to express that different sources come to different numbers. How you can be sure that the figures you mentioned are correct or even significantly underestimated, as you write, I don't know either.
By the way, Dmitry Kobak is someone who has already uncovered Russia's embellished Corona statistics. According to his investigations, more than four times as many Russians died of corona than the Russian government's figures indicated.
I find it hard to believe that he would now have a scientific interest in whitewashing the numbers of deaths from the war.
If I were you, I would not believe the truth of all the pictures you publish here.
It is quite enough for the Russian trolls to cover the whole planet with countless untruths. We should not jump on this bandwagon!
I gave a link to Biden's speech. You do not trust the data of American intelligence? But for some reason you trust some Russian there.
I know that Ukraine collects statistics very carefully, because it is under the control of so many international organizations, as well as allies. In the statistics that Ukraine publishes only verified data, which far from everything falls into.
There is no opposition in Russia, I have already written this many times. Almost all Russians are for the Russian empire. And even if some kind of "good" Russian wants to do a casualty count, he will not be able to do it, because military losses in Russia are classified military information. What's more, Russians don't even count everything. They do not count how many of their prisoners died, they do not count the dead Ukrainian collaborators.
Do you know how they treat their wounded on the battlefield? The Russians don't give them any medical attention at all, and people who might have survived end up dying from minor wounds.
The western world is risking a lot in grabbing this country. And the EU is just dumb. This is one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
He is yet another useful idiot, craving for attention and as wrong as putin (or medvedev), whose words he is parroting.
He is yet another useful idiot, craving for attention and as wrong as putin (or medvedev), whose words he is parroting.
A useful idiot typically has achieved some kind of position in their native country, and hence their "usefulness" (for example: Chomsky, Orban, Schröder, Waters).
The correct taxonomy for random specimens found in Internet forums is usually one of these: vatnik (the ones from the countries of the former Soviet Union), tankie (from the West) or some third-world boy whose life motto is "Russia stronk". These are the most common species.
They haven't reached the status of a useful idiot, because, on their own, their "usefulness" is very limited. A classic useful idiot is publicly recognizable.
It is also possible that I (and you, I suppose) misinterpreted the statement in the graph you posted. I had interpreted "personnel losses" as "dead". Obviously, dead + wounded are meant. Then the numbers in your graphic would fit.In the case of the Russians, it doesn't matter. ;D ;D ;D
Tonight there is a documentary on ARTE TV. "Putin's Shadow War“. Probably this is uninteresting for English-speakers, because it will not be understandable in terms of content.
I will watch it in any case.
It's about, among other things, a Russian "trawler and research vessel fleet" searching the Norwegian seabed for data cables and sabotage targets.
Tonight there is a documentary on ARTE TV. "Putin's Shadow War“. Probably this is uninteresting for English-speakers, because it will not be understandable in terms of content.After viewing, state here in the topic briefly, plz.
I will watch it in any case.
It's about, among other things, a Russian "trawler and research vessel fleet" searching the Norwegian seabed for data cables and sabotage targets.
It is also possible that I (and you, I suppose) misinterpreted the statement in the graph you posted. I had interpreted "personnel losses" as "dead". Obviously, dead + wounded are meant. Then the numbers in your graphic would fit.In the case of the Russians, it doesn't matter. ;D ;D ;D
Wounded Russians become killed very quickly because they are not given medical assistance. Also, all these Russian losses are calculated by the method of least numbers. In fact, more Russian soldiers were eliminated.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine use the term liquidated in their reports.
Tonight there is a documentary on ARTE TV. "Putin's Shadow War“. Probably this is uninteresting for English-speakers, because it will not be understandable in terms of content.
I will watch it in any case.
It's about, among other things, a Russian "trawler and research vessel fleet" searching the Norwegian seabed for data cables and sabotage targets.
It is also possible that I (and you, I suppose) misinterpreted the statement in the graph you posted. I had interpreted "personnel losses" as "dead". Obviously, dead + wounded are meant. Then the numbers in your graphic would fit.In the case of the Russians, it doesn't matter. ;D ;D ;D
Wounded Russians become killed very quickly because they are not given medical assistance. Also, all these Russian losses are calculated by the method of least numbers. In fact, more Russian soldiers were eliminated.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine use the term liquidated in their reports.
Let's be clear at this point.
I sincerely hope that Ukraine wins the war.
You may not like the Russians, but I am extremely disgusted how you celebrate the death of people, fathers, sons, especially since it can be assumed that many Russian soldiers went to war not entirely voluntarily.
I myself worked as a doctor for over a year in a terrible civil war zone in Asia. When people's intestines hang out of their stomachs or both legs are only bleeding stumps, the suffering is the same for all people and for their families. There is nothing to celebrate for either side.
Leave your computer keyboard and come to the real world.
This is not a * video game here.
It is also possible that I (and you, I suppose) misinterpreted the statement in the graph you posted. I had interpreted "personnel losses" as "dead". Obviously, dead + wounded are meant. Then the numbers in your graphic would fit.In the case of the Russians, it doesn't matter. ;D ;D ;D
Wounded Russians become killed very quickly because they are not given medical assistance. Also, all these Russian losses are calculated by the method of least numbers. In fact, more Russian soldiers were eliminated.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine use the term liquidated in their reports.
Let's be clear at this point.
I sincerely hope that Ukraine wins the war.
You may not like the Russians, but I am extremely disgusted how you celebrate the death of people, fathers, sons, especially since it can be assumed that many Russian soldiers went to war not entirely voluntarily.
I myself worked as a doctor for over a year in a terrible civil war zone in Asia. When people's intestines hang out of their stomachs or both legs are only bleeding stumps, the suffering is the same for all people and for their families. There is nothing to celebrate for either side.
Leave your computer keyboard and come to the real world.
This is not a * video game here.
No winners will emerge from this war - only losers!
And Putin does not care. He likes to show himself as a strong man with a naked upper body. But he doesn't have to fight.
I wonder if a single son of an oligarch has to go to war. And I bet that the children of the oligarchs will be spared and will continue to be properly fed with money from the Russian leadership. Just as it has always been.
I sincerely hope that Ukraine wins the war.
You may not like the Russians, but I am extremely disgusted how you celebrate the death of people, fathers, sons, especially since it can be assumed that many Russian soldiers went to war not entirely voluntarily.
I myself worked as a doctor for over a year in a terrible civil war zone in Asia. When people's intestines hang out of their stomachs or both legs are only bleeding stumps, the suffering is the same for all people and for their families. There is nothing to celebrate for either side.
I sincerely hope that Ukraine wins the war.
You may not like the Russians, but I am extremely disgusted how you celebrate the death of people, fathers, sons, especially since it can be assumed that many Russian soldiers went to war not entirely voluntarily.
I myself worked as a doctor for over a year in a terrible civil war zone in Asia. When people's intestines hang out of their stomachs or both legs are only bleeding stumps, the suffering is the same for all people and for their families. There is nothing to celebrate for either side.
This is a tricky one. I do not celebrate the deaths of individual Russian soldiers and the family tragedies behind those deaths. I don't want to become a monster myself. But at the same time, it is obvious that each dead Russian soldier means that he won't be able to kill innocent Ukrainians and it also makes it less likely that Russia will try to invade another country in the near future. It is oddly satisfying to see Russian military bases or tanks being blown up, because it makes Europe a little safer in the future. I just don't celebrate the human tragedy behind it. I celebrate it as a strategic/tactical success, if that makes sense.
It is safe to assume that most of Russians support Putin / Prigozhin, and then you also have other imperialist scumbags like Navalny and his followers. The percentage of decent Russians is very small. I know such ones from YouTube and other places. I try to support them by giving likes to their content, to counterbalance my extremely negative feelings towards Russia as a whole.
This Russian guy celebrates Russian losses too:
https://www.youtube.com/@TheRussianDude (https://www.youtube.com/@TheRussianDude)
This anti-Putin Russian guy applied for asylum in the very "russophobic" country of Poland. Quite brave. He learns Polish and makes shocking video comparisons of everyday life quality in Russia and Poland. You can turn on automatic translated subtitles to understand him. His Russian family has "cancelled" him for what he is doing. He knows that Russia is a s#ithole, but he wants Russians to see the light and change. So, I think it is good to promote such people:
https://www.youtube.com/@ViacheslavZarutskii (https://www.youtube.com/@ViacheslavZarutskii)
It is also possible that I (and you, I suppose) misinterpreted the statement in the graph you posted. I had interpreted "personnel losses" as "dead". Obviously, dead + wounded are meant. Then the numbers in your graphic would fit.In the case of the Russians, it doesn't matter. ;D ;D ;D
Wounded Russians become killed very quickly because they are not given medical assistance. Also, all these Russian losses are calculated by the method of least numbers. In fact, more Russian soldiers were eliminated.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine use the term liquidated in their reports.
Let's be clear at this point.
I sincerely hope that Ukraine wins the war.
You may not like the Russians, but I am extremely disgusted how you celebrate the death of people, fathers, sons, especially since it can be assumed that many Russian soldiers went to war not entirely voluntarily.
I myself worked as a doctor for over a year in a terrible civil war zone in Asia. When people's intestines hang out of their stomachs or both legs are only bleeding stumps, the suffering is the same for all people and for their families. There is nothing to celebrate for either side.
Leave your computer keyboard and come to the real world.
This is not a * video game here.
No winners will emerge from this war - only losers!
And Putin does not care. He likes to show himself as a strong man with a naked upper body. But he doesn't have to fight.
I wonder if a single son of an oligarch has to go to war. And I bet that the children of the oligarchs will be spared and will continue to be properly fed with money from the Russian leadership. Just as it has always been.
Wilm that's right.
Actually, I wanted to stay out of the discussion here. What I myself wish Putin and others, I save myself here.
But if someone with 3 smileys is happy about the fact that people die in the trenches without help - then I actually lack the words.
On the other hand, I would have words for this stoker-computer-nerd, but then I would fly out of the forum.
The wars should look like leaders and their children leading the way in the front lines. Then the politicians, the journalist and military experts, and then the rest of the people.
That would stop them in a second.
The wars should look like leaders and their children leading the way in the front lines. Then the politicians, the journalist and military experts, and then the rest of the people.
That would stop them in a second.
Of course. Tell that to the alexithymic putin, the one hiding in a bunker, while sending his men to die for his quixotic dreams of grandor.
The wars should look like leaders and their children leading the way in the front lines. Then the politicians, the journalist and military experts, and then the rest of the people.
That would stop them in a second.
Of course. Tell that to the alexithymic putin, the one hiding in a bunker, while sending his men to die for his quixotic dreams of grandor.
And Putin, and Obama, and Bush and Clinton and all the others impotent psychopaths ;)
Russia should be immediately sent to a landfill. We need an iron wall between this terrorist country and the civilized world. Not a single Russian vessel, not a single citizen of russia should be on the territory of free Europe, and not only Europe. Drive the Russians out of the EU, otherwise Putin will send troops into your countries to protect these Russians. It was with this narrative that he attacked Ukraine.Tonight there is a documentary on ARTE TV. "Putin's Shadow War“. Probably this is uninteresting for English-speakers, because it will not be understandable in terms of content.
I will watch it in any case.
It's about, among other things, a Russian "trawler and research vessel fleet" searching the Norwegian seabed for data cables and sabotage targets.
I found some spoilers for you, Wilm 😉
https://www.euronews.com/2023/04/19/ghost-ships-and-espionage-russias-huge-surveillance-efforts-laid-bare-in-new-nordic-docume (https://www.euronews.com/2023/04/19/ghost-ships-and-espionage-russias-huge-surveillance-efforts-laid-bare-in-new-nordic-docume)
Most Russians fight voluntarily and for money. They are all orcs and zombies, all rashists. There are no people there. So, if these orcs come to your house and kill your family, I would like to see how you will feel sorry for these killers later.It is also possible that I (and you, I suppose) misinterpreted the statement in the graph you posted. I had interpreted "personnel losses" as "dead". Obviously, dead + wounded are meant. Then the numbers in your graphic would fit.In the case of the Russians, it doesn't matter. ;D ;D ;D
Wounded Russians become killed very quickly because they are not given medical assistance. Also, all these Russian losses are calculated by the method of least numbers. In fact, more Russian soldiers were eliminated.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine use the term liquidated in their reports.
Let's be clear at this point.
I sincerely hope that Ukraine wins the war.
You may not like the Russians, but I am extremely disgusted how you celebrate the death of people, fathers, sons, especially since it can be assumed that many Russian soldiers went to war not entirely voluntarily.
I myself worked as a doctor for over a year in a terrible civil war zone in Asia. When people's intestines hang out of their stomachs or both legs are only bleeding stumps, the suffering is the same for all people and for their families. There is nothing to celebrate for either side.
Leave your computer keyboard and come to the real world.
This is not a * video game here.
Drive the Russians out of the EU, otherwise Putin will send troops into your countries to protect these Russians. It was with this narrative that he attacked Ukraine.
Drive the Russians out of the EU, otherwise Putin will send troops into your countries to protect these Russians. It was with this narrative that he attacked Ukraine.
Send in the settlers, claim their minority rights are being infringed, move in to "protect" them, bring in more settlers...then hold a fake vote claiming the people "voluntarily" joined the russian empire.
...now...where else have I heard that narrative before...settlers being used to push ethnic cleansing and drive the local population out...
I sincerely hope that Ukraine wins the war.
You may not like the Russians, but I am extremely disgusted how you celebrate the death of people, fathers, sons, especially since it can be assumed that many Russian soldiers went to war not entirely voluntarily.
I myself worked as a doctor for over a year in a terrible civil war zone in Asia. When people's intestines hang out of their stomachs or both legs are only bleeding stumps, the suffering is the same for all people and for their families. There is nothing to celebrate for either side.
This is a tricky one. I do not celebrate the deaths of individual Russian soldiers and the family tragedies behind those deaths. I don't want to become a monster myself. But at the same time, it is obvious that each dead Russian soldier means that he won't be able to kill innocent Ukrainians and it also makes it less likely that Russia will try to invade another country in the near future. It is oddly satisfying to see Russian military bases or tanks being blown up, because it makes Europe a little safer in the future. I just don't celebrate the human tragedy behind it. I celebrate it as a strategic/tactical success, if that makes sense.
It is safe to assume that most of Russians support Putin / Prigozhin, and then you also have other imperialist scumbags like Navalny and his followers. The percentage of decent Russians is very small. I know such ones from YouTube and other places. I try to support them by giving likes to their content, to counterbalance my extremely negative feelings towards Russia as a whole.
This Russian guy celebrates Russian losses too:
https://www.youtube.com/@TheRussianDude (https://www.youtube.com/@TheRussianDude)
This anti-Putin Russian guy applied for asylum in the very "russophobic" country of Poland. Quite brave. He learns Polish and makes shocking video comparisons of everyday life quality in Russia and Poland. You can turn on automatic translated subtitles to understand him. His Russian family has "cancelled" him for what he is doing. He knows that Russia is a s#ithole, but he wants Russians to see the light and change. So, I think it is good to promote such people:
https://www.youtube.com/@ViacheslavZarutskii (https://www.youtube.com/@ViacheslavZarutskii)
Maybe you heard with in Albanians in Serbia case.
And then comes NATO, blatantly attacks Serbia , redraws the borders and recognize Kosovo as an independent country in same exact scenario you just described.
Maybe you heard with in Albanians in Serbia case.
And then comes NATO, blatantly attacks Serbia , redraws the borders and recognize Kosovo as an independent country in same exact scenario you just described.
For crying out loud, stop lying, stop drawing false analogies and stop parroting Russian lies!!!
And I am not a big fan of Kosovo's statehood myself.
+100Drive the Russians out of the EU, otherwise Putin will send troops into your countries to protect these Russians. It was with this narrative that he attacked Ukraine.
Send in the settlers, claim their minority rights are being infringed, move in to "protect" them, bring in more settlers...then hold a fake vote claiming the people "voluntarily" joined the russian empire.
...now...where else have I heard that narrative before...settlers being used to push ethnic cleansing and drive the local population out...
You write nonsense. What 80%? This topic has already discussed Kosovo and the history of Kosovo. Flip through the pages of the topic and read what has already been written. Why discuss it again.Maybe you heard with in Albanians in Serbia case.
And then comes NATO, blatantly attacks Serbia , redraws the borders and recognize Kosovo as an independent country in same exact scenario you just described.
For crying out loud, stop lying, stop drawing false analogies and stop parroting Russian lies!!!
And I am not a big fan of Kosovo's statehood myself.
That has nothing to do with russia and spare me of those childish stupidities if you cant speak with arguments, and you can not cause its exactly what is still happening.
And you just accused 80+% of the world populatio that wont recognise Kosovo including NATO members for spreading russian lies:
And you just accused 80+% of the world population that wont recognise Kosovo including NATO members for spreading russian lies:
From Kasparov's speech at the NATO Public Forum. A Russian who wishes russia's deafeat.I will only clarify that Kasparov is not Russian by nationality. He is Armenian and Jewish.
Smart words of a smart man.
have to say three things in five seconds without stuttering:These are the questions you need to ask all Russians who claim not to be called murderers and rashists.
The war is criminal.
The regime is illegitimate.
Crimea is Ukraine.[/i]
And you just accused 80+% of the world population that wont recognise Kosovo including NATO members for spreading russian lies:
You seem to have a big problem with reading with understanding and drawing analogies.
And now, check how many countries recognize Crimea and Donbas as part of Russia. Spoiler alert: only a couple of clown states.
These are the questions you need to ask all Russians who claim not to be called murderers and rashists.
1. Whose Crimea?
2. Should the Russian Empire continue to exist within today's borders? Or do oppressed peoples have the right to secede and create their own nation-states?
3. Should all war criminals who kill Ukrainians or help them be punished?
4. Should Russia withdraw its troops from Ukraine, Crimea, Donbass?
5. Should Russia pay reparations to Ukraine and Ukrainians for those killed, for destroyed cities, destroyed ecology and other losses?
Here on the forum not a single Russian has answered these questions yet, so for information.
From Kasparov's speech at the NATO Public Forum. A Russian who wishes russia's deafeat.I will only clarify that Kasparov is not Russian by nationality. He is Armenian and Jewish.
Smart words of a smart man.
Let the whataboutism start... ;)
I wasn't thinking of an area in Europe. I am Christian Palestinian and you can watch the"settlers" stealing our homes and our land every day live on tv.
It is a slower process, they keep pushing us out slowly over years, but the result is the same. People from New York "settling in their homeland" kicking out the native population and claiming 14 million don't even exist...
But let us focus on Ukraine. They deserve to be free and should get into NATO quickly. They are paying the blood price. They are defending all of free Europe with their bravery.
Exactly right. Even if you disregard the theory claiming that Croats originate from Sarmatians, arriving in Europe from northwestern Iran, if you embrace the pan-slavic theory, croats still migrated from northeast and occupied lands in the Balkans.
I like your idyllic view on how this happend.
In your mind, the illyrian and istro-romanian tribes embraced the invadors and willingly shared or even gave them their lands. Riiiight! ::)
I wasn't thinking of an area in Europe. I am Christian Palestinian and you can watch the"settlers" stealing our homes and our land every day live on tv.
It is a slower process, they keep pushing us out slowly over years, but the result is the same. People from New York "settling in their homeland" kicking out the native population and claiming 14 million don't even exist...
But let us focus on Ukraine. They deserve to be free and should get into NATO quickly. They are paying the blood price. They are defending all of free Europe with their bravery.
Why would we focus only on Ukraine ? There is whole world out there. They should be free and they should do what they are pleased but the situation is that they were in unpleasant surrounding and they played the wrong cards and listened to wrong advice's and that is huge lesson to all of Europe. We should not stand between US and Russian predators.
Ukraine can be right in 100% and how did that help them ? Russia is not gonna let go, NATO just proved is not going to do crap cause they don't want a new stone age, Russia has the strongest card possible in their nuclear weapons and can not be controlled nor isolated like North Korea.
Even if Putin gets thrown out russia is not backing up, the peace table is going to be the only solution and whats happening now is catching the best starting points.
Aaah... so now we are not discussing principles anymore, but nuances and levels! This is great!
Glad to see that you accept that the Croats had their fair share of aggression, land grabbing and ethnic cleansing history.
Glad to see that you begin to see yourself in the mirror, even if the image you see is rather fuzzy and distorted. This is progress, nonetheless.
👏
Next step is to stop pointing fingers at others, stop with your relentless #whataboutism, and to focus on who is the evil, the aggressor who must be stopped TODAY, July 12th, 2023.
Why do NATO-countries react on a Russian invasion of Ukraine (not a NATO member by the way) and not so much on other or earlier conflicts in countries that suffer from dictators and humanitarian abuse? Valid question, and the answer is to be found rather in geopolitical strategies than in morally policing the world and acting on human rights abuses.
Just my 2 cents here, but NATO has no real interest in defeating Russia and liberating Ukraine. The problem is: Russia became a growing threat to western-world stability, and they just went way too far with a brutal and full-scale invasion of a country on the European continent bordering NATO. So what NATO does is balancing the conflict with just enough support to Ukraine so Russia can't get what they want, fight them off, but with just not enough support to inflict a humiliating defeat for Russia which can trigger even worse. If NATO really wanted, Russia's army is flees back to Moscow within days or a few weeks. Boots on the ground, birds in the sky, and game over. But that would mean full scale war with state that has trigger-happy-batshit-crazy leadership and nuclear weapons. It would really hurt NATO members too, and it would only benefit the dark horse here: China.
By the way: NATO already won. They just expanded with Finland and Sweden, and weakened Russia severely. And I guess their next strategy is just letting the conflict bleed out. Russia gets something that the west considers as a defeat for Russia and Russia itself can sell as a victory to their population. Ukraine gets a free entrance ticket to the west and NATO. Meanwhile, a message was sent to third party China: keep quiet and keep your shop open for business.
Ukraine happens to be the theatre for horrible muscle-rolling, with innocent and everyday people brutally suffering from it.
I can only hope it will end soon, and people can start building new lives in peace.
You are not quite right. I wrote that the problem of Russians is in their genes. Russians by nationality have occupied other peoples and nations and are holding by force in the totalitarian Russian empire. I just want to say that it will be very difficult for you to find a Russian by nationality who will speak the same way as Kasparov speaks. Of course, I saw someone in the media, but I'm not sure that these people are sincere, and not playing the role of liberals.From Kasparov's speech at the NATO Public Forum. A Russian who wishes russia's deafeat.I will only clarify that Kasparov is not Russian by nationality. He is Armenian and Jewish.
Smart words of a smart man.
The ethnicity is irrelevant
He was russian by nationality and citizenship.
By his own words:
"Although I'm half-Armenian, half-Jewish, I consider myself Russian because Russian is my native tongue, and I grew up with Russian culture."
He was also a presidential candidate in russia and he considers russia his homeland, although he now got the Croatian citizenship to escape from putin's persecution.
Remember that Stalin was a Georgian ethnic. Remember that there are many russian citizens or russian nationals of non-russian ethnicity fighting for putin in Ukraine.
The ethnicity is irrelevant. It's not a matter of genes, it's a matter of culture.
Remember that Zelensky himself is Jewish.
Some authors exaggerate russia's ability to use nuclear weapons effectively. russia does not have missiles capable of overcoming the air defense of NATO countries. The United States can destroy the nuclear perimeter of russia in exactly 2 hours. If desired, NATO can turn all of Russia into nuclear ashes Naturally, from a purely environmental point of view, this will not be done, but destroying Russian nuclear weapons is not a problem for NATO. Allegedly, the "second army of the world" is retreating under pressure from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Therefore, there is no need to scare anyone here with the Russian red button, nuclear suitcase, etc.
Frankly, I don't think there's anything that the West can do to stop President Putin from using a tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine if he chooses to do so.It's just opinion and fear. According to military experts, tactical nuclear weapons will not stop the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-dam-putin-nuclear-threats-kevin-ryan/32449075.html (https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-dam-putin-nuclear-threats-kevin-ryan/32449075.html)
As I said, your generals share my point of view but you know best :D
These are all the threats and dreams of Russian propaganda. You need to listen to the alcoholic Dmitry Medvedev, he every morning from a hangover shoots nuclear missiles all over the world.Some authors exaggerate russia's ability to use nuclear weapons effectively. russia does not have missiles capable of overcoming the air defense of NATO countries. The United States can destroy the nuclear perimeter of russia in exactly 2 hours. If desired, NATO can turn all of Russia into nuclear ashes Naturally, from a purely environmental point of view, this will not be done, but destroying Russian nuclear weapons is not a problem for NATO. Allegedly, the "second army of the world" is retreating under pressure from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Therefore, there is no need to scare anyone here with the Russian red button, nuclear suitcase, etc.
This can be written by a kid with no knowledge whatsoever.
Answer this ?
Give me one war in modern history that inculcated modern arms that had less civil vs military casualties level than this in Ukraine ?
They can destroy Ukraine in a day and no world would move a finger.
Secondly, if Russia fired all it has just that what would pass the defense could destroy the civilization and Europe would be thing of the past.
And let me remind you who retreated from Vietnam, who lost in the Bay of Pigs Invasion or how the Korean adventure ended.
Leave your whataboutisms for your friends on the slider, and let adults decide on this. And your adults are fckn afraid cause if not they would addmit Ukraine in NATO today and end the thing but they cant
Just to debunk the stupidity:Nonsense. If in Soviet times the Russians posed some kind of threat, now the Russians have drunk and plundered everything. The latest tests of their ballistic missiles were unsuccessful. No one in that Russia even knows what state their nuclear potential is in, everything is outdated there and the expiration date has expired. Most likely, Russian nuclear weapons will explode faster on Russian territory than even reach Europe. Not to mention that the United States has warned the Russians over the past year that they will launch preemptive strikes first, and these strikes will be serious.
David Barash, who has written about preventing nuclear war, told Newsweek the chance of the U.S. intercepting a nuclear-armed Inter Continental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) is "extremely low."
"We shouldn't be fooled by the moderate success that 'anti-missile defense systems' have been having in Ukraine," Barash said. "The missiles in question have been mostly cruise missiles of one sort or other; they fly about 500 mph, whereas ballistic missiles re-entering the atmosphere are about 15,000 mph."
"Intercepting them is an order of magnitude more difficult: Khrushchev likened it to 'hitting a bullet with a bullet,' and although anti-missile technology has evolved since then, so has offensive tech. The prospects of the U.S., or anyone, successfully intercepting ICBMs are extremely low," he said.
3. Just out of curiosity, how much of the United States could be reached by a Russian nuclear attack?
All of it. Russia deploys at least 1,500 warheads on hundreds of missiles based from air, land, and sea platforms that can strike the entire U.S. homeland.
Russia also is developing brand new “novel” capabilities that can strike the U.S., like hypersonic missiles and a nuclear-powered cruise missile and torpedo. Fortunately, the United States also maintains a nuclear triad that can strike all of Russia, providing a strong deterrent to a Russian attack.
The difference is that while Russia has modernized its nuclear forces about 90% of the way through, the U.S. still relies on platforms built during the Cold War. For instance, the U.S. is still squeezing life out of the Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile that was designed in 1960.
Programs to replace these outdated capabilities with modern systems are just getting underway, and each year must overcome opposition from far-left members of Congress.
https://www.newsweek.com/us-safe-nuclear-attack-1753288 (https://www.newsweek.com/us-safe-nuclear-attack-1753288)
https://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear-weapons/missile-defense (https://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear-weapons/missile-defense)
https://www.heritage.org/defense/commentary/answers-6-big-questions-about-putins-nuclear-threats (https://www.heritage.org/defense/commentary/answers-6-big-questions-about-putins-nuclear-threats)
This can be written by a kid with no knowledge whatsoever.I see you are a military expert here who knows everything, knows the state of the nuclear arsenal in rotten russia and knows what the USA, Great Britain, and France have and do not have. Nu-nu, make me laugh with your posts again.
The difference is that while Russia has modernized its nuclear forces about 90% of the way through, the U.S. still relies on platforms built during the Cold War.
They can destroy Ukraine in a day and no world would move a finger.This is the 500th day of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Russia fired all the missiles it had on Ukraine. And what?
And let me remind you who retreated from Vietnam, who lost in the Bay of Pigs Invasion or how the Korean adventure ended.
To come as an ally and to come and commit largest genocide in history killing 50 Millions people and stealing their land is now a same thing.
To come as an ally and to come and commit largest genocide in history killing 50 Millions people and stealing their land is now a same thing.
Yeah, the Croats invaded the Balkans as allies of the local population. Riiiight!
They didn't occupy those lands, they didn't murdered the autochthonous tribes, they didn't raid, rape and plunder all the Balkans and the Byzantine empire.
They all came in peace and were welcomed with flowers by the natives Thracian and Illiryian tribes, who joyfully gave them their lands. Riiiight!
Continue to believe these national myths you were brainwashed from childhood with, and never thought to challenge (until today, hopefuly?)
One more thing: the first croat migrants in the US were mentioned as early as 1715. So if I'd be in your shoes, I wouldn't exclude the participation of croats in the genocide against the native American population, the same way I wouldn't exclude the participation of any other ethnicity migrating to the new world, back in those days.
This can be written by a kid with no knowledge whatsoever.I see you are a military expert here who knows everything, knows the state of the nuclear arsenal in rotten russia and knows what the USA, Great Britain, and France have and do not have. Nu-nu, make me laugh with your posts again.
;D ;D ;D
Lizard, what country do you live in and why do you post Russian fakes here? ::) :D
Well, as you can see Im quoting your generals who are apparently talking russian fakes ;DYou don't know who I am, and the generals you quoted are not my generals. All that you quoted is very outdated information that is of no value and is Russian fakes. There are many useful idiots in the world who, for money or out of their stupidity, repeat what Russian propaganda tells them.
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Genetically, on the Y chromosome line, a majority (75%) of male Croats from Croatia belong to haplogroups I (38%-43%), R1a (22%-25%) and R1b (8%-9%), while a minority (25%) mostly belong to haplogroup E (10%), and others to haplogroups J (7%-10%), G (2%-4%), H (0.3-1.8%), and N (<1%).[115][116] The distribution, variance and frequency of the I2 and R1a subclades (>60%) among Croats are related to the medieval Slavic expansion, probably from the territory of present day Ukraine and Southeastern Poland.
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You don't know who I amIt doesn't matter who you are. It's important what you are.
I Have Spoken.
can you also let us know if you can pass Kasparov's litmus test?No. I'm not a parrot to repeat someone's words.
1. Whose Crimea?
2. Should the Russian Empire continue to exist within today's borders? Or do oppressed peoples have the right to secede and create their own nation-states?
3. Should all war criminals who kill Ukrainians or help them be punished?
4. Should Russia withdraw its troops from Ukraine, Crimea, Donbass?
5. Should Russia pay reparations to Ukraine and Ukrainians for those killed, for destroyed cities, destroyed ecology and other losses?[/b]
Here on the forum not a single Russian has answered these questions yet, so for information.
Since 1783 Crimea was part of Russia (Soviet Union). Just since 1954 it was part of Ukraine when it was given (as a friendly gesture) to the soviet Republic of Ukraine (created in 1917, only to be independent in 1954). 60% of the inhabitants are Russians and only 24% Ukranian (measurement of 2001). So, according to the inhabitants I would say it's russian since inhabitants of the west of Ukraine staged the coup in 2014 and went another way. Secondly, because Sebastopol is of vital military importance to russia for it's naval fleet I can understand they would not have letten this go.
Maybe, if West Ukraine pays for the damages they have inflicted on the East of Ukraine during the 10 year civil war after their coup they staged in 2014. And maybe the EU, Great Britain, Australia and the US can also pay because they have delivered a lot of weapons helping to destroy the country.
Here is the answer of the most ordinary Russian rashist. Q.E.D. But he does not consider himself a rashist, he wants to be considered a "good" Russian. It is on people like this zastavkin that the Russian empire and Putin rest.can you also let us know if you can pass Kasparov's litmus test?No. I'm not a parrot to repeat someone's words.
On these issues, I can say the following:
1. Any violence against man, animals and nature is criminal.
2. I believe that not only regimes, but also states should become a thing of the past for humanity. I am for a legitimately elected global government with clear and effective mechanisms for their control by society.
3. I look at this question realistically. If my memory doesn't fail me, initiallyCrimea belonged to the Taurians. Later, many different nationalities and states were replaced here. Of the existing states, the right of primacy should belong to the Greeks. After the collapse of the USSR, Crimea belonged to Ukraine. Now the laws of the Russian state are in force on the peninsula. Under whose jurisdiction will this territory be in the future - I do not know. I hope that the rapid development of information technologies and the understanding of the need for the peaceful coexistence of all nationalities of the Earth will lead humanity to a single state (see paragraph 2).
His racism is very distasteful, and very wrong; factually and morally. It is also hugely counterproductive as it gives Russians who oppose the invasion no way out. Putin’s biggest problem with Ukraine is it showed Russians a possible future free of him. I am sure he is very happy to see this kind of talk pushing them further towards him.There is a war in Europe, and there are only a few good Russians, in fact there are none. I write the truth as it is. Yes, many do not like the truth, it is an axiom.
The native population of Crimea is Crimean Tatars, and they are very pro-Ukrainian. They consider Ukraine to be their homeland. Russian murderers exterminated their ancestors or forcefully deported them. Russian criminals did the same in the Baltic states, taking the homes of Balts murdered by them.
What matters is what the international community and even russia recognized as official borders, before a mad man with with imperial ambitions decided to kill his way through.Russian rashists do not want to understand this. And then the same zastavkin shouts here on the forum that US sanctions are applied to him, that he is not given money and that he is not to blame for anything.
for example that Ukraine would be better off if Republicans were in charge in the US.Depends on which Republicans. I'm not campaigning for the Republicans here on the forum. I just wrote that many Republicans support Ukraine, and this is true.
for example that Ukraine would be better off if Republicans were in charge in the US.Depends on which Republicans. I'm not campaigning for the Republicans here on the forum. I just wrote that many Republicans support Ukraine, and this is true.
All this can be discussed.for example that Ukraine would be better off if Republicans were in charge in the US.Depends on which Republicans. I'm not campaigning for the Republicans here on the forum. I just wrote that many Republicans support Ukraine, and this is true.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s (R-Ga.) amendment to strip $300 million in Ukraine aid from the bill failed in a huge fashion, 341-89.
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) amendment to prohibit security assistance for Ukraine also failed spectacularly 358-70.
Rep. Andy Ogles’ (R-Tenn.) amendment to strike language extending Lend-Lease authority for Ukraine failed 360-71.
Only thing troubling here is that 70+ Republicans voted for these shameful bills.
So, you have 100% support from the Democrats, the Republicans are pushing anti-Ukraine bills, but you like the Republicans more.
Please stop with the self-harming... :-\
Ukraine is conducting military operations according to tactics and strategy as during the First World War. This is the result of the policy of the Democrats. Ukraine is fighting Russians who have aircraft and long-range missiles, and Ukraine does not have this. Yes, at the cost of the lives of Ukrainians, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are slowly moving forward, 100 meters, 500 meters a day. These are all tactics of the First World War. For such tactics, I cannot thank the Democrats.
I advise you to stop dreaming and wake up to the new reality.The reality under the Democrats is very bad, comparable to death and genocide, which is what is happening in Ukraine.
You have some serious issues my friend. I would consider getting some help if I were you. You are quite disturbed.I advise you to stop dreaming and wake up to the new reality.The reality under the Democrats is very bad, comparable to death and genocide, which is what is happening in Ukraine.
Why are you writing all this to me, I criticized the Democrats, but I did not promote Trump to the presidency. I will always criticize the Democrats, because there is very, very little sense from them.
If the Republicans ever win, I'll compare. I do not vote for the President of the United States, I am not a US citizen. I can only judge the results of US policy, which I do.
You can talk about something from the outside, you are not a party to the conflict. You can afford forecasts, philosophizing, choosing a political party in the USA.
You do not understand one thing, if the Russians kill you, it will not matter to you whether the Democrats rule in the USA or the Republicans. But you will not be indifferent to the politics of those in power in the United States. Democrats have been in power in the United States now and for the past 30 years.
Democrats have been in power in the United States now and for the past 30 years.
Maybe, if West Ukraine pays for the damages they have inflicted on the East of Ukraine during the 10 year civil war after their coup they staged in 2014.
Democrats have been in power in the United States now and for the past 30 years.
Hi Stoker. Not ganging up on you, just want to set the record straight. USA Democrats were not in power for the past 30 years. Here is the timeline:
President Clinton (Democrat).
2000. Putin becomes president of Russia. Clinton immediately senses that putin is not to be trusted but his presidency is coming to an end.
President George W Bush (Republican) 2001-2008
- Bush likes Putin and says he can be trusted. His famous line: "I looked into his eyes and could see his soul".
- The first long-range nuclear bombers by Russia
- Russia's devasting cyberattack on Estonia
- Putin attacks Georgia
- Bush does nothing.
President Obama (Democrat)2009-2016
- Obama puts Vice President Joe Biden in charge of foreign affairs in Russia.
- Joe Biden can see through putin and says to him, "I'm looking into your eyes and I don't think you have a soul".
- There is a political uprising of hundreds of thousands of people in Russia against Putin's recent actions. Putin squashes rebellion. Opposition leaders, journalists and anti-corruption campaigners are arrested, disappear, or die mysteriously.
- Putin seizes Crimea.
- Vice President Biden is furious and insists that putin must be stopped. But Biden loses and Obama does nothing.
President Trump (Republican)2017-2020
- Trump sides with putin, says that USA should pull out of Nato, and takes putin's side on Ukrainian issues.
President Joe Biden (Democrat)2021-
- Putin's war on Ukraine.
- Biden sends 76+ billion dollars of financial, humanitarian, military, and weapons aid to Ukraine - despite also having to deal with a post-pandemic economy in USA.
More info here: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview-collection/putin-and-the-presidents/ (https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview-collection/putin-and-the-presidents/)
This one is interesting:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview/timothy-snyder/ (https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview/timothy-snyder/)
Looks like Biden has been all along Ukraine's best defense against Putin.
Democrats have been in power in the United States now and for the past 30 years.
Hi Stoker. Not ganging up on you, just want to set the record straight. USA Democrats were not in power for the past 30 years. Here is the timeline:
President Clinton (Democrat).
2000. Putin becomes president of Russia. Clinton immediately senses that putin is not to be trusted but his presidency is coming to an end.
President George W Bush (Republican) 2001-2008
- Bush likes Putin and says he can be trusted. His famous line: "I looked into his eyes and could see his soul".
- The first long-range nuclear bombers by Russia
- Russia's devasting cyberattack on Estonia
- Putin attacks Georgia
- Bush does nothing.
President Obama (Democrat)2009-2016
- Obama puts Vice President Joe Biden in charge of foreign affairs in Russia.
- Joe Biden can see through putin and says to him, "I'm looking into your eyes and I don't think you have a soul".
- There is a political uprising of hundreds of thousands of people in Russia against Putin's recent actions. Putin squashes rebellion. Opposition leaders, journalists and anti-corruption campaigners are arrested, disappear, or die mysteriously.
- Putin seizes Crimea.
- Vice President Biden is furious and insists that putin must be stopped. But Biden loses and Obama does nothing.
President Trump (Republican)2017-2020
- Trump sides with putin, says that USA should pull out of Nato, and takes putin's side on Ukrainian issues.
President Joe Biden (Democrat)2021-
- Putin's war on Ukraine.
- Biden sends 76+ billion dollars of financial, humanitarian, military, and weapons aid to Ukraine - despite also having to deal with a post-pandemic economy in USA.
More info here: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview-collection/putin-and-the-presidents/ (https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview-collection/putin-and-the-presidents/)
This one is interesting:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview/timothy-snyder/ (https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview/timothy-snyder/)
Looks like Biden has been all along Ukraine's best defense against Putin.
Forgot to add:
2000 Clinton (Democrat) but with a Republican Majority Congress
George W Bush - Republican Congress
Barack Obama - First 2 years Democrat congress, then Republican majority in the House
Trump - First 2 years Republican congress, then Democrats in the House
Biden - Republican majority in the House second two years. (Current)
Hi Stoker. Not ganging up on you, just want to set the record straight. USA Democrats were not in power for the past 30 years. Here is the timeline:Ок. The Democrats have been in power for 18 years. :)
President Clinton (Democrat).You know, when I read the biography of this KGB agent Putin only once, I immediately said that this agent cannot be trusted and he is 100% evil. He did not win the elections in Russia, Yeltsin appointed him tsar, and the Russians accepted him as their tsar.
2000. Putin becomes president of Russia. Clinton immediately senses that putin is not to be trusted but his presidency is coming to an end.
President George W Bush (Republican) 2001-2008Yesterday I did not quite fully describe my thoughts. I look not only at the personality of the presidents and what they personally say, what nonsense, but also the results of the rule of their political parties. For example, the same Trump, everyone understands that President Trump does not govern the United States alone, he appoints people from the Republican Party to key positions. There is a phrase, the retinue makes the king. Therefore, it is necessary to look not so much at what the US president says, but what consequences his rule has for the world.
- Bush likes Putin and says he can be trusted. His famous line: "I looked into his eyes and could see his soul".
- The first long-range nuclear bombers by Russia
- Russia's devasting cyberattack on Estonia
- Putin attacks Georgia
- Bush does nothing.
President Obama (Democrat)2009-2016I have underlined and bolded the results of Obama's administration. Under Obama, the Russians also occupied eastern Ukraine and the war broke out. In 2014, the war began. Not in 2022, but in 2014.
- Obama puts Vice President Joe Biden in charge of foreign affairs in Russia.
- Joe Biden can see through putin and says to him, "I'm looking into your eyes and I don't think you have a soul".
- There is a political uprising of hundreds of thousands of people in Russia against Putin's recent actions. Putin squashes rebellion. Opposition leaders, journalists and anti-corruption campaigners are arrested, disappear, or die mysteriously.
- Putin seizes Crimea.
- Vice President Biden is furious and insists that putin must be stopped. But Biden loses and Obama does nothing.
President Trump (Republican)2017-2020????? :-\ ??? :o
- Trump sides with putin, says that USA should pull out of Nato, and takes putin's side on Ukrainian issues.
President Joe Biden (Democrat)2021-I highlighted in bold the result of Biden's rule. As for helping with money, did Biden decide to pay off his failed policies and support for the Russians? Biden was supposed to disconnect Russia from Swift back in 2021, introduce an oil and gas embargo, etc. and so on.
- Putin's war on Ukraine.
- Biden sends 76+ billion dollars of financial, humanitarian, military, and weapons aid to Ukraine - despite also having to deal with a post-pandemic economy in USA.
More info here: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview-collection/putin-and-the-presidents/ (https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview-collection/putin-and-the-presidents/)There are many words for those who are not in the subject. Mostly support for Democrats and criticism of Republicans. One-sided approach. But who is not in the subject, you can certainly read. I would add a lot to what was said there.
This one is interesting:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview/timothy-snyder/ (https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview/timothy-snyder/)
Looks like Biden has been all along Ukraine's best defense against Putin.:o :o :o
Forgot to add:Here I can't write anything. The president appoints his people to key positions, I think Congress has nothing to do with these appointments.
2000 Clinton (Democrat) but with a Republican Majority Congress
George W Bush - Republican Congress
Barack Obama - First 2 years Democrat congress, then Republican majority in the House
Trump - First 2 years Republican congress, then Democrats in the House
Biden - Republican majority in the House second two years. (Current)
And let's be very clear, without NATO (and mainly USA) support, Ukraine was Russian territory by now.Oh, well written. And I will write what will happen to half of the EU when the Russians occupy Ukraine. Within a few years, the Russians will mobilize 5 million Ukrainians and attack all the EU countries that used to be part of the Soviet camp, and this is half of Germany too. And I can give you a 100% guarantee that half of the EU countries will be occupied by Russian hands of Ukrainians very quickly.
And let's be very clear, without NATO (and mainly USA) support, Ukraine was Russian territory by now.Oh, well written. And I will write what will happen to half of the EU when the Russians occupy Ukraine. Within a few years, the Russians will mobilize 5 million Ukrainians and attack all the EU countries that used to be part of the Soviet camp, and this is half of Germany too. And I can give you a 100% guarantee that half of the EU countries will be occupied by Russian hands of Ukrainians very quickly.
Therefore, Ukraine is not a beggar who should say thanks to the US and the EU, but a full partner, whom the US and the EU should listen to and do what Ukraine says.
Unfortunately, I cannot support only what is beneficial only to Ukraine. I understand that even if Trump was the best choice for Ukraine, this man organized the storming of the Capitol, and this is all very bad. I also understand that the policy of the Democrats can lead both to the defeat of Ukraine and to the occupation of half of the EU.
Therefore, Ukraine is not a beggar who should say thanks to the US and the EU, but a full partner, whom the US and the EU should listen to and do what Ukraine says.
Ukraine is not a beggar who should say thanks to the US and the EU, but a full partner, whom the US and the EU should listen to and do what Ukraine says.
I didn't mean partnership in terms of NATO or EU membership. I meant that Ukraine is at war with the terrorist Russian country of Russia, and Russia has started a war not only with Ukraine, but also with NATO. You have probably heard or read in this thread about the ultimatum that Russia put forward to NATO countries in 2022. Therefore, Ukraine today is protecting not only itself, but half of the EU. In this sense, I meant partnership.Ukraine is not a beggar who should say thanks to the US and the EU, but a full partner, whom the US and the EU should listen to and do what Ukraine says.
I entirely agree with Big Toe on this. US and EU are helping Ukraine to fight this injustice war. Unfortunately Ukraine is not in NATO or in EU therefore not yet a full partner although I agree that this war brought our peoples even closer together.
As you may know, in democracies there needs to be consensus. There is no consensus among Member States when Ukraine will join NATO or the EU. The only consensus that exists is that the entry of Ukraine will only be discussed after the end of the war and in the meantime help Ukraine to fight and win this unjust war with Russia.
There is a huge and complicated path to achieve consensus with member states either in EU or NATO. In my humble opinion I think it will take less time for Ukraine to join the EU (maybe 8-12 years) than NATO (maybe decades). For example Finland had decades of simulations and training with NATO before join this year. On the other hand Turkey, which is a NATO member, have been in accession negotiations to EU since 2005 (almost 20 years).
Either way do not assume just because NATO and EU are committed in helping Ukraine it makes it a full partner. It's not.
To be one the answer will be fulfill all the requirements to apply for it. I am very positive that Ukraine could achieve this in a fair timeline.
You don't know history. In 1917-1922, Ukraine also fought with Russia for its independence. Ukraine lost because it did not receive assistance from European countries. So, for several years, the Russians turned on propaganda and made the Ukrainians fight for Russia.And let's be very clear, without NATO (and mainly USA) support, Ukraine was Russian territory by now.Oh, well written. And I will write what will happen to half of the EU when the Russians occupy Ukraine. Within a few years, the Russians will mobilize 5 million Ukrainians and attack all the EU countries that used to be part of the Soviet camp, and this is half of Germany too. And I can give you a 100% guarantee that half of the EU countries will be occupied by Russian hands of Ukrainians very quickly.
Therefore, Ukraine is not a beggar who should say thanks to the US and the EU, but a full partner, whom the US and the EU should listen to and do what Ukraine says.
I can't understand where your 100% guarantee comes from. Russia today is a people hostile to Ukrainians.
There is a great book Niccolo Machiavelli called "the prince" who explains that since the times of the Romans, History proves that when one people invades another, the most certain thing is to emerge and fight resistance from the invaded people. So if Russia succeeds in occupying Ukraine, which is not likely as it failed to do so in 500 days, it is most likely NOT managing to mobilize 5 million people in an already punished country to invade the countries that helped them a few years earlier.
If you give weapons to these 5 million Ukrainians, they will most likely revolt against Russia again.
And the proof that Russia is weak is for everyone to see: So far all objectives have failed and there are already internal rebellions where the Russian Wagner group rebelled against Russia and managed to reach very close to Moscow in less than 24 Hours.
After invading Russia will have to fight directly against 31+1(sweden) states of Nato but also indirectly (political and economical) with Commonwealth, Palop and other state communities. This probably means almost 2/3 of the world.
Let's also not forget that at the level of war technology, Russia is far behind.
I'm not a seer and I hate war but the evidence and the facts are showing that Russia will not win this war and most certainly not invade other countries.
Perhaps Putin's departure is the most likely path - i pray and hope this happens soon!
And the proof that Russia is weak is for everyone to see: So far all objectives have failed and there are already internal rebellions where the Russian Wagner group rebelled against Russia and managed to reach very close to Moscow in less than 24 Hours.For Ukrainians, yes, Russians are weak. But the EU countries are very much afraid of Russian orcs. That's why I wrote, add another 5 million fearless Ukrainians to the Russians and you will get not modern rotten Russia, but the USSR that was before.
Stop helping Ukraine and together we'll see how it ends for the EU. :-\ :-\ :-\Unfortunately, I cannot support only what is beneficial only to Ukraine. I understand that even if Trump was the best choice for Ukraine, this man organized the storming of the Capitol, and this is all very bad. I also understand that the policy of the Democrats can lead both to the defeat of Ukraine and to the occupation of half of the EU.
Trump is only the best choice for the Ukraine in some sort of parallel universe.
Probably the same universe where Merkel is a KGB agent, the Democrats have been in power in the US for 30 years and where Russia is going to invade Germany with the help of 5 million Ukrainians.Therefore, Ukraine is not a beggar who should say thanks to the US and the EU, but a full partner, whom the US and the EU should listen to and do what Ukraine says.
No, the Ukraine is not a beggar, but neither are they in a position where the US and the EU have to do everything the Ukraine tells them to.
And the proof that Russia is weak is for everyone to see: So far all objectives have failed and there are already internal rebellions where the Russian Wagner group rebelled against Russia and managed to reach very close to Moscow in less than 24 Hours.For Ukrainians, yes, Russians are weak. But the EU countries are very much afraid of Russian orcs. That's why I wrote, add another 5 million fearless Ukrainians to the Russians and you will get not modern rotten Russia, but the USSR that was before.
Don't refer to the Wagner group, it was a show for people like you. Read my posts on this topic, I wrote who the Wagner group is and what it really was. With all the desire, the Wagner group would not have reached Moscow. It was a staged show.
Stop helping Ukraine and together we'll see how it ends for the EU. :-\ :-\ :-\Unfortunately, I cannot support only what is beneficial only to Ukraine. I understand that even if Trump was the best choice for Ukraine, this man organized the storming of the Capitol, and this is all very bad. I also understand that the policy of the Democrats can lead both to the defeat of Ukraine and to the occupation of half of the EU.
Trump is only the best choice for the Ukraine in some sort of parallel universe.
Probably the same universe where Merkel is a KGB agent, the Democrats have been in power in the US for 30 years and where Russia is going to invade Germany with the help of 5 million Ukrainians.Therefore, Ukraine is not a beggar who should say thanks to the US and the EU, but a full partner, whom the US and the EU should listen to and do what Ukraine says.
No, the Ukraine is not a beggar, but neither are they in a position where the US and the EU have to do everything the Ukraine tells them to.
In 1945, the troops of the USSR, mainly thanks to Ukrainian soldiers, very quickly occupied half of today's EU. And the Russians want to repeat it.
But you can continue to cling to my words, find errors in my text and try to make me look like an idiot.
In 1945, the troops of the USSR, mainly thanks to Ukrainian soldiers, very quickly occupied half of today's EU. And the Russians want to repeat it.
But you can continue to cling to my words, find errors in my text and try to make me look like an idiot.
Unfortunately, I cannot support only what is beneficial only to Ukraine. I understand that even if Trump was the best choice for Ukraine,
Yes, I will write softer, you are right.And the proof that Russia is weak is for everyone to see: So far all objectives have failed and there are already internal rebellions where the Russian Wagner group rebelled against Russia and managed to reach very close to Moscow in less than 24 Hours.For Ukrainians, yes, Russians are weak. But the EU countries are very much afraid of Russian orcs. That's why I wrote, add another 5 million fearless Ukrainians to the Russians and you will get not modern rotten Russia, but the USSR that was before.
Don't refer to the Wagner group, it was a show for people like you. Read my posts on this topic, I wrote who the Wagner group is and what it really was. With all the desire, the Wagner group would not have reached Moscow. It was a staged show.
I don't see any EU country or the US being afraid of Russia.
But sometimes it makes sense to just take a deep breath and make your decisions well-founded and well-considered, and also to consider the possible consequences.
I would also recommend that you take a deep breath too.
First and foremost, Ukraine is not served at all if the Russians unpack their tactical nuclear weapons. In view of what has happened so far, I think this is a more realistic scenario than the Russians standing outside Berlin.
I never said that we should stop helping the Ukraine. In fact, I think we should help them more than we currently do, however, you have to understand that the European (and US) governments also have other obligations, particularly to minimize the risk of a nuclear war. For this and other reasons, the Ukraine will probably also in the future not get every weapon system they may wish for. And there is also no endless supply of the weapon systems they get from the west, because most European countries have downsized their armies considerably during the last decades. The German armed forces for example have only a few hundred Leopard II tanks themselves and only about 140 Eurofighters, with probably not nearly all of them operational. So we cannot really afford to transfer significant numbers of those weapons to the Ukraine, if any at all (in the case of the fighters).The President of Ukraine not so long ago asked the NATO countries to transfer to Ukraine only 1% of all the weapons that they have. I mean planes and tanks. While aviation is not visible.
Now Russia is supported by China and Iran. And do not forget that the armies of the EU countries are not Hitler's well-motivated, numerous and trained army. Are the Europeans ready to fight against a huge number of enemy soldiers?In 1945, the troops of the USSR, mainly thanks to Ukrainian soldiers, very quickly occupied half of today's EU. And the Russians want to repeat it.
That was a totally different situation. The Soviets basically only had the German army as an opponent at that point, not the whole EU or NATO and they had massive help from the USA and the UK, partly by delivering large amounts of weapons and other goods to the Soviet Union and partly by attacking the Germans from the west at the same time. Not to mention the massive air strikes the western allies directed against the German cities.But you can continue to cling to my words, find errors in my text and try to make me look like an idiot.
Stop posting nonsense like Merkel being a KGB agent, then you can avoid looking that way.
Be careful what you wish for, because it may happen to you.
This is the new republican party. This is what you are rooting for 👇
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First and foremost, Ukraine is not served at all if the Russians unpack their tactical nuclear weapons. In view of what has happened so far, I think this is a more realistic scenario than the Russians standing outside Berlin.
This is an internal showdown in the United States, I'm not against humor.
You don't know history. In 1917-1922, Ukraine also fought with Russia for its independence. Ukraine lost because it did not receive assistance from European countries. So, for several years, the Russians turned on propaganda and made the Ukrainians fight for Russia.
The NATO countries are very afraid of the Russians, and this can be seen even in this forum. I am not sure that NATO will be able to fight effectively in the situation that I have drawn. You must understand that this situation is very real and well known in both Washington and Brussels, and that is why Ukraine is getting at least some help.
I'm sorry. I didn't express myself correctly. I am not saying that you do not know anything or do not know the history of other wars. I wanted to say that you do not know the whole history of the wars of the Ukrainian people against the Russians.You don't know history. In 1917-1922, Ukraine also fought with Russia for its independence. Ukraine lost because it did not receive assistance from European countries. So, for several years, the Russians turned on propaganda and made the Ukrainians fight for Russia.
The NATO countries are very afraid of the Russians, and this can be seen even in this forum. I am not sure that NATO will be able to fight effectively in the situation that I have drawn. You must understand that this situation is very real and well known in both Washington and Brussels, and that is why Ukraine is getting at least some help.
Before claim that "i don't know History" you should start reading the book i mention which is exactly a kind of Military history book that even Napoleon used and take notes for its wars. In fact is still used today in military academies or in Universities of politic science. where do you think the phrase divide to conquer comes from? The maxim "divide et impera" has been attributed to Philip II of Macedon. It was utilised by the Roman ruler Julius Caesar and the French emperor Napoleon (together with the maxim divide ut regnes) which you can learn all of it in the book that i mentioned.
You will also find other one: "There are only two ways to lead: you either divide and conquer, or you build and unite.
I don't know all the History but i do know that First World War was from 28 July 1914 till 11 November 1918. Knowing that FACT it's easy to think and understand why during 1917-1922 Ukraine was not assisted.
I think EU and NATO is very aware of the reality and that's why we all are helping Ukraine. But if you think "The NATO countries are very afraid of the Russians" well what can i say.... Again...i do recommend you to read the book that i mentioned and maybe you will understand better why Europe was the stage of World Wars. Probably with a little more Knowledge you find different perspective of things.
A meaningful, powerful meeting with President of the United States Joseph Biden in Vilnius.
We discussed in detail the situation on the frontline, our capabilities, further long-term defense cooperation, and internal Russian processes given the recent events.
The United States has stood side by side with Ukraine throughout our defense against aggression. We appreciate it tremendously. Thank you personally to
@POTUS, the Congress and the American people for the vitally important assistance - military, financial, political - provided to Ukraine since the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion.
And let's be very clear, without NATO (and mainly USA) support, Ukraine was Russian territory by now.
They give Ukrainians the weapons, some controversial ones included, teach them how to use them, and tell them where to aim them at by providing intelligence.
From Zelensky himself 2 days ago ...You know, it is very difficult to translate anything from a diplomatic language. Zelenskyy cannot say anything differently, his position is diplomatic. Zelenskyy spoke exactly the same way to Trump when he was president. The president is the last person in Ukraine who will openly say what he thinks, usually this is a very rare occurrence. Therefore, it is better to read Zaluzhnyi, he speaks in an understandable, non-diplomatic language.
https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1679164069972934657QuoteA meaningful, powerful meeting with President of the United States Joseph Biden in Vilnius.
We discussed in detail the situation on the frontline, our capabilities, further long-term defense cooperation, and internal Russian processes given the recent events.
The United States has stood side by side with Ukraine throughout our defense against aggression. We appreciate it tremendously. Thank you personally to
@POTUS, the Congress and the American people for the vitally important assistance - military, financial, political - provided to Ukraine since the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion.
Where was this intelligence in 2014, when the Russians were implementing the planned destabilization in Ukraine with the subsequent occupation of Crimea and Donbass.Quote from: Roscoe link=topic=37652.msg589667#msg58
And let's be very clear, without NATO (and mainly USA) support, Ukraine was Russian territory by now.
They give Ukrainians the weapons, some controversial ones included, teach them how to use them, and tell them where to aim them at by providing intelligence.
Yes. And I imagine US intelligence is possibly the most priceless aid of all.
Where was this intelligence in 2014, when the Russians were implementing the planned destabilization in Ukraine with the subsequent occupation of Crimea and Donbass.Quote from: Roscoe link=topic=37652.msg589667#msg58
And let's be very clear, without NATO (and mainly USA) support, Ukraine was Russian territory by now.
They give Ukrainians the weapons, some controversial ones included, teach them how to use them, and tell them where to aim them at by providing intelligence.
Yes. And I imagine US intelligence is possibly the most priceless aid of all.
And in 2022, any fool knew that the Russians would launch an offensive, everyone saw that they brought a lot of troops to the Ukrainian border.
Well, if you are talking about satellites, of course they are. I wrote about the excellently executed terrorist operation by the Russians to seize Crimea and eastern Ukraine in 2014. There was information that a whole department in the CIA was eventually fired.Where was this intelligence in 2014, when the Russians were implementing the planned destabilization in Ukraine with the subsequent occupation of Crimea and Donbass.Quote from: Roscoe link=topic=37652.msg589667#msg58
And let's be very clear, without NATO (and mainly USA) support, Ukraine was Russian territory by now.
They give Ukrainians the weapons, some controversial ones included, teach them how to use them, and tell them where to aim them at by providing intelligence.
Yes. And I imagine US intelligence is possibly the most priceless aid of all.
And in 2022, any fool knew that the Russians would launch an offensive, everyone saw that they brought a lot of troops to the Ukrainian border.
I am getting the feeling Stoker, that you don't really understand or fully appreciate the full extent of US intelligence. (or the sophistication of their spy satellites, for example)
Well, if you are talking about satellites, of course they are. I wrote about the excellently executed terrorist operation by the Russians to seize Crimea and eastern Ukraine in 2014. There was information that a whole department in the CIA was eventually fired.Where was this intelligence in 2014, when the Russians were implementing the planned destabilization in Ukraine with the subsequent occupation of Crimea and Donbass.Quote from: Roscoe link=topic=37652.msg589667#msg58
And let's be very clear, without NATO (and mainly USA) support, Ukraine was Russian territory by now.
They give Ukrainians the weapons, some controversial ones included, teach them how to use them, and tell them where to aim them at by providing intelligence.
Yes. And I imagine US intelligence is possibly the most priceless aid of all.
And in 2022, any fool knew that the Russians would launch an offensive, everyone saw that they brought a lot of troops to the Ukrainian border.
I am getting the feeling Stoker, that you don't really understand or fully appreciate the full extent of US intelligence. (or the sophistication of their spy satellites, for example)
So, besides looking at images from satellites, does intelligence know anything else? I got the impression that US intelligence does not understand what it receives money for.
But of course, military intelligence is not bad now following the Russian troops and reporting information to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
But how could you miss the preparation of the Russians in 2013 and do nothing .... Democrats ....
Through this bridge, Russian terrorists supply 30% of weapons and soldiers to the occupied territory of Ukraine. The Democrats will not allow this bridge to be destroyed.
+100Well, if you are talking about satellites, of course they are. I wrote about the excellently executed terrorist operation by the Russians to seize Crimea and eastern Ukraine in 2014. There was information that a whole department in the CIA was eventually fired.Where was this intelligence in 2014, when the Russians were implementing the planned destabilization in Ukraine with the subsequent occupation of Crimea and Donbass.Quote from: Roscoe link=topic=37652.msg589667#msg58
And let's be very clear, without NATO (and mainly USA) support, Ukraine was Russian territory by now.
They give Ukrainians the weapons, some controversial ones included, teach them how to use them, and tell them where to aim them at by providing intelligence.
Yes. And I imagine US intelligence is possibly the most priceless aid of all.
And in 2022, any fool knew that the Russians would launch an offensive, everyone saw that they brought a lot of troops to the Ukrainian border.
I am getting the feeling Stoker, that you don't really understand or fully appreciate the full extent of US intelligence. (or the sophistication of their spy satellites, for example)
So, besides looking at images from satellites, does intelligence know anything else? I got the impression that US intelligence does not understand what it receives money for.
But of course, military intelligence is not bad now following the Russian troops and reporting information to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
But how could you miss the preparation of the Russians in 2013 and do nothing .... Democrats ....
Stoker, I have deliberately ignored your references to 2013/4 in the past couple of pages. You do understand what #whataboutism is and why it's a bad thing to do, don't you?
Its interesting that its also been claimed to be a russian defence. From wiki:
Writing for Bloomberg News , Leonid Bershidsky called whataboutism a "Russian tradition", while The New Yorker described the technique as "a strategy of false moral equivalences". Julia Ioffe called whataboutism a "sacred Russian tactic", and compared it to accusing the pot of calling the kettle black.
Also Trump uses it, Fox News uses it, and a lot of negative people also use it to hide or distract from the truth or prevent others from solving current issues.
For example, Roscoe said USA provides Ukraine with their intelligence (present time), and I replied that it must be a priceless aid to have. And then you came along and interrupted, talking about something that happened a decade ago. That is Whataboutism.
The other thing that you're doing that is driving me crazy is all this labelling. ie. in this case, democrats, as if its a bad thing. You do realize that a lot of the Joint Chiefs who sit in the situation room and advise the president are republicans, don't you? So quit with the labelling. Its distracting, negative, incorrect, and harmful.
+100Through this bridge, Russian terrorists supply 30% of weapons and soldiers to the occupied territory of Ukraine. The Democrats will not allow this bridge to be destroyed.
There are reports from many sources that a part of the bridge collapsed at night.
Trump describes how he could solve Russia-Ukraine conflict in 24 hours
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-describes-how-he-could-solve-russia-ukraine-conflict-24-hours (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-describes-how-he-could-solve-russia-ukraine-conflict-24-hours)
In his pre-election populism, Trump hints that he can give Ukraine more weapons than they are currently giving.
:o :-\ >:( :'( :-\
To begin with, there is no conflict in Ukraine, but there is a military and terrorist attack by Russia on Ukraine with the aim of destroying Ukraine and Ukrainians. The Fox channel should stop relaying Russian propaganda.
Trump said so that the interpretation of the meaning of what was said may be different :). If another person, a normal person, said this, it would be interesting.Trump describes how he could solve Russia-Ukraine conflict in 24 hours
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-describes-how-he-could-solve-russia-ukraine-conflict-24-hours (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-describes-how-he-could-solve-russia-ukraine-conflict-24-hours)
In his pre-election populism, Trump hints that he can give Ukraine more weapons than they are currently giving.
:o :-\ >:( :'( :-\
To begin with, there is no conflict in Ukraine, but there is a military and terrorist attack by Russia on Ukraine with the aim of destroying Ukraine and Ukrainians. The Fox channel should stop relaying Russian propaganda.
Did you realize what he said?
"I know Zelenskyy very well, and I know Putin very well, even better. And I had a good relationship, very good with both of them. I would tell Zelenskyy, no more. You got to make a deal. I would tell Putin, if you don't make a deal, we're going to give him a lot. We're going to [give Ukraine] more than they ever got if we have to. I will have the deal done in one day. One day"
Translation: he will first ask Zelensky to give up Ukrainian lands as part of the "deal". And only if putin doesn't agree, he will support Ukraine.
In other words, trump doesn't support Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity and he will give putin exactly what he wants: Ukrainian lands. ::)
I can interpret his proposal like this, Zelenskyy is telling putin to get Russia out of all of Ukraine. In response, putin does not agree. So Trump is giving a lot of weapons to Ukraine.
More humor with those politicians-who-are-not-helping-Ukraine:
Funny to see Sunak and Meloni, checking exactly this video during the recent NATO summit :D
Note the also funny name of this Ukrainian channel: "Saint Javelin".
"Saint Javelin", named after the FGM-148 Javelin, or Advanced Anti-Tank Weapon System-Medium, supplied to Ukraine by the Biden administration. It's so effective that it was blessed into sainthood. ;)
PS. Something extra from the same channel:
https://youtube.com/shorts/tBXHJHVrGqQ
He clearly said that he will first tell Zelensky "no more".This is your interpretation of Trump's words. In fact, in that interview to which I gave a link, he did not say that Ukraine should give up its territory to the Russians.
In other words: no more fight to free up the occupied territories.
He clearly said that he will first tell Zelensky "no more".This is your interpretation of Trump's words. In fact, in that interview to which I gave a link, he did not say that Ukraine should give up its territory to the Russians.
In other words: no more fight to free up the occupied territories.
Trump is a Republican, you think too badly of the Republicans. ;D ;D ;D
He clearly said that he will first tell Zelensky "no more".This is your interpretation of Trump's words. In fact, in that interview to which I gave a link, he did not say that Ukraine should give up its territory to the Russians.
In other words: no more fight to free up the occupied territories.
Trump is a Republican, you think too badly of the Republicans. ;D ;D ;D
Trump is the American Putin.
No. As I said, the pre-MAGA true conservative Republicans (the ones you liked) were fine.
Trump is a Republican, you think too badly of the Republicans. ;D ;D ;D
He clearly said that he will first tell Zelensky "no more".This is your interpretation of Trump's words. In fact, in that interview to which I gave a link, he did not say that Ukraine should give up its territory to the Russians.
In other words: no more fight to free up the occupied territories.
Trump is a Republican, you think too badly of the Republicans. ;D ;D ;D
Trump is the American Putin.
Trump was a terrible president, but that does not make him the American Putin.
During his term of being president, he didn't poison or imprison politicians of the opposition or journalists, he didn't silence nearly all opposing voices and he didn't invade a neigbouring country (or any country for that matter).
I already wrote, I liked Trump because he did not allow Merkel to help putin and russia.He clearly said that he will first tell Zelensky "no more".This is your interpretation of Trump's words. In fact, in that interview to which I gave a link, he did not say that Ukraine should give up its territory to the Russians.
In other words: no more fight to free up the occupied territories.
Trump is a Republican, you think too badly of the Republicans. ;D ;D ;D
Trump is the American Putin.
Who on this forum would travel to a Crimean resort, these days, even assuming that your whole trip + accomodation + food is paid for?
I watch the news on US TV channels, I see one-sided coverage of the explosion of the Crimean bridge. They talk about some kind of 2 dead rashists, and that's it. Why not tell people that this bridge was illegally built by the Russians, that it is a military facility through which the Russians deliver hundreds of thousands of shells to Ukraine and every day they kill hundreds of women and children, destroy houses and cities. But the media say that this is just a bridge and that two Russians who illegally crossed the Ukrainian border on this bridge died.
Trump said so that the interpretation of the meaning of what was said may be different :). If another person, a normal person, said this, it would be interesting.Trump describes how he could solve Russia-Ukraine conflict in 24 hours
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-describes-how-he-could-solve-russia-ukraine-conflict-24-hours (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-describes-how-he-could-solve-russia-ukraine-conflict-24-hours)
In his pre-election populism, Trump hints that he can give Ukraine more weapons than they are currently giving.
:o :-\ >:( :'( :-\
To begin with, there is no conflict in Ukraine, but there is a military and terrorist attack by Russia on Ukraine with the aim of destroying Ukraine and Ukrainians. The Fox channel should stop relaying Russian propaganda.
Did you realize what he said?
"I know Zelenskyy very well, and I know Putin very well, even better. And I had a good relationship, very good with both of them. I would tell Zelenskyy, no more. You got to make a deal. I would tell Putin, if you don't make a deal, we're going to give him a lot. We're going to [give Ukraine] more than they ever got if we have to. I will have the deal done in one day. One day"
Translation: he will first ask Zelensky to give up Ukrainian lands as part of the "deal". And only if putin doesn't agree, he will support Ukraine.
In other words, trump doesn't support Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity and he will give putin exactly what he wants: Ukrainian lands. ::)
I can interpret his proposal like this, Zelenskyy is telling putin to get Russia out of all of Ukraine. In response, putin does not agree. So Trump is giving a lot of weapons to Ukraine.
I find mind boggling that so many russians traveled to enjoy the summer in Crimean resorts with kids and families.This is what I constantly write about, almost all Russians are rashists and they all like that the Russian empire has occupied the Crimea. This is the only thing they are proud of in their Russian life. Therefore, no risks will stop them.
What was in their heads? Didn't they realize it's an actual war zone?
Now that the bridge is non-functional, they must take an even riskier route home, through Mariupol and witness the real horrors of their regime.
Who on this forum would travel to a Crimean resort, these days, even assuming that your whole trip + accomodation + food is paid for?
Well, at least they told the truth on SNN....I watch the news on US TV channels, I see one-sided coverage of the explosion of the Crimean bridge. They talk about some kind of 2 dead rashists, and that's it. Why not tell people that this bridge was illegally built by the Russians, that it is a military facility through which the Russians deliver hundreds of thousands of shells to Ukraine and every day they kill hundreds of women and children, destroy houses and cities. But the media say that this is just a bridge and that two Russians who illegally crossed the Ukrainian border on this bridge died.
This was CNN's report:
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/17/europe/crimea-bridge-putin-explainer-intl/index.html
"Why the Crimean Bridge is so important to Vladimir Putin.
The Crimean Bridge, which links the annexed peninsula to mainland Russia, was hit by two strikes early Monday in an attack a Ukrainian security official told CNN Kyiv was responsible for.
The crossing is a vital artery for supplying Russia’s ongoing war on Ukraine, allowing people and goods to flow into the Ukrainian territories that Moscow has occupied in the south and east of the country.
Also known as the Kerch Bridge, it holds personal value for Russian President Vladimir Putin. In the Kremlin narrative it marks the “reunification” of Crimea with the Russian mainland.
Monday’s attack on the crossing was the second since Putin launched his full-scale invasion of Ukraine – and Kyiv has reiterated that it hopes to reclaim the peninsula in its ongoing counteroffensive.
Here’s what you need to know:
Why is the bridge so important to Russia?
The Kerch Bridge is strategically important because it links Russia’s Krasnodar region with Crimea, which was illegally annexed by Russia from Ukraine in 2014.
It also has huge symbolic importance for Russia, which built the 12-mile bridge – the longest in Europe – at a cost of around $3.7 billion. It was the physical expression of Putin’s objective to take over Ukraine and bind it to Russia forever.
" plus more ...
Zelensky tells a joke ...Oh yes, Zelenskyy is famous comedian, here he plays the piano well ;D ;D ;D
https://twitter.com/yasminalombaert/status/1604022699763851264 (https://twitter.com/yasminalombaert/status/1604022699763851264)
Now that the bridge is non-functional, they must take an even riskier route home, through Mariupol and witness the real horrors of their regime.Yesterday there was already a traffic jam on that bypass road for 25 km. There are Russian checkpoints everywhere and there are mines everywhere on the road. The attraction is great!
Zelensky tells a joke ...Oh yes, Zelenskyy is famous comedian, here he plays the piano well ;D ;D ;D
https://twitter.com/yasminalombaert/status/1604022699763851264 (https://twitter.com/yasminalombaert/status/1604022699763851264)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovg7LVtxoNU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovg7LVtxoNU)
Now that the bridge is non-functional, they must take an even riskier route home, through Mariupol and witness the real horrors of their regime.Yesterday there was already a traffic jam on that bypass road for 25 km. There are Russian checkpoints everywhere and there are mines everywhere on the road. The attraction is great!
But that's not all, although the Allies do not give the Armed Forces of Ukraine aviation, nevertheless, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are slowly moving towards the Sea of Azov in the Zaporizhzhia region. And as soon as the Armed Forces of Ukraine approach the land corridor within the range of an artillery shot, this road will be under constant fire control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. So the Russians don't have much time left to escape from the Ukrainian Crimea.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/17/trump-ukraine-bartiromo/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/17/trump-ukraine-bartiromo/)Trump said so that the interpretation of the meaning of what was said may be different :). If another person, a normal person, said this, it would be interesting.Trump describes how he could solve Russia-Ukraine conflict in 24 hours
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-describes-how-he-could-solve-russia-ukraine-conflict-24-hours (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-describes-how-he-could-solve-russia-ukraine-conflict-24-hours)
In his pre-election populism, Trump hints that he can give Ukraine more weapons than they are currently giving.
:o :-\ >:( :'( :-\
To begin with, there is no conflict in Ukraine, but there is a military and terrorist attack by Russia on Ukraine with the aim of destroying Ukraine and Ukrainians. The Fox channel should stop relaying Russian propaganda.
Did you realize what he said?
"I know Zelenskyy very well, and I know Putin very well, even better. And I had a good relationship, very good with both of them. I would tell Zelenskyy, no more. You got to make a deal. I would tell Putin, if you don't make a deal, we're going to give him a lot. We're going to [give Ukraine] more than they ever got if we have to. I will have the deal done in one day. One day"
Translation: he will first ask Zelensky to give up Ukrainian lands as part of the "deal". And only if putin doesn't agree, he will support Ukraine.
In other words, trump doesn't support Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity and he will give putin exactly what he wants: Ukrainian lands. ::)
I can interpret his proposal like this, Zelenskyy is telling putin to get Russia out of all of Ukraine. In response, putin does not agree. So Trump is giving a lot of weapons to Ukraine.
I think the emphasis is that he would force them to make a deal.
But the only deal that putin would accept would be land from Ukraine. If Ukraine refuses, then what? Withdraw aid from Ukraine? Either way, putin wins.
trump is crafty with all his statements. He has learnt from years of experience to always be a bit ambiguous with what his says, so he can't be pinned down to something specific later.
Trump is going to recover US expenses to support the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the EU.
https://rumble.com/v30rzca-agenda47-rebuilding-americas-depleted-military.html (https://rumble.com/v30rzca-agenda47-rebuilding-americas-depleted-military.html)
:-\
Done deal.
Joe Biden! Give Ukraine F16 and no minefields will be an obstacle to the rapid advance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Trump is going to recover US expenses to support the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the EU.This is from the same crap category as "I will build a Wall and Mexico will pay for it".
https://rumble.com/v30rzca-agenda47-rebuilding-americas-depleted-military.html (https://rumble.com/v30rzca-agenda47-rebuilding-americas-depleted-military.html)
:-\
Yes, a few days ago, Biden did allow Ukrainian pilots to be trained. But it's all too late, very late! Pilots should have been trained as early as 2022. Moreover, it is not clear when and how many aircraft will be given to Ukraine. The Russians have plenty of time to get ready for the F16, now they're raising their whole rusty old air fleet and launching it into the sky. For F16, a lot of vintage aircraft may well be a problem. Biden working for the Russians?Done deal.
Joe Biden! Give Ukraine F16 and no minefields will be an obstacle to the rapid advance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Ukrainian F-16 pilots will be trained by the private company Draken International.
The company published a recruitment ad stating that the military instructors would work at the Borcea, Feteşti military base in Romania.
The company is also recruiting other categories of personnel for the pilot training center, including technicians, electricians, and other avionics specialists. Applicants must have at least five years of experience operating F-16 aircraft. Hired people will stay in Romania for three to 19 months.
Initially, training will consist of testing and selection of Ukrainian personnel, language lessons, and later theoretical and practical training will be conducted. The program aims for Ukrainian pilots to acquire basic skills in operating and maintaining F-16 aircraft.
Yes, a few days ago, Biden did allow Ukrainian pilots to be trained. But it's all too late, very late! Pilots should have been trained as early as 2022. Moreover, it is not clear when and how many aircraft will be given to Ukraine. The Russians have plenty of time to get ready for the F16, now they're raising their whole rusty old air fleet and launching it into the sky. For F16, a lot of vintage aircraft may well be a problem. Biden working for the Russians?
Everything is written beautifully and Biden speaks beautifully too. But I have questions.
Yes, a few days ago, Biden did allow Ukrainian pilots to be trained. But it's all too late, very late! Pilots should have been trained as early as 2022. Moreover, it is not clear when and how many aircraft will be given to Ukraine. The Russians have plenty of time to get ready for the F16, now they're raising their whole rusty old air fleet and launching it into the sky. For F16, a lot of vintage aircraft may well be a problem. Biden working for the Russians?
OMG, Stoker - Biden is NOT working for the Russians. He is the last USA politician that would do that. Can you remember the 20 year history I gave you before?
Here is some more info ...
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/09/biden-russia-putin-love-story-492195 (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/09/biden-russia-putin-love-story-492195)
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/19/politics/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-personal-history/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/19/politics/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-personal-history/index.html)
When it coms to putin, Biden is the anti-trump. trump loves putin. Biden has always been outspoken against putin. For example, during his 2020 political campaign, when asked by a journalist whether putin was a murderer - Biden did not hesitate to say, Yes. I can try and find that clip for you if you don't believe me.
4. Very weak sanctions are applied to russia as a terrorist country.
The FATF never put russia on the list of terrorist countries. Russia sells gas, oil, grain, coal, etc. Russians are building nuclear power plants in other countries and they are paid money for this. Yes, the Russians have reduced the price of oil a little, but it's still dollars, the money that comes to the Russians and who spend this money on murders, genocide, ecocide and crimes against humanity.
The Russians blew up the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, and the whole world is silent, but this is ecocide and genocide at the same time. The Russians have mined the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, and the sanctions are not being increased.
Russian stockers (rashists) sell their work in stock agencies, withdraw money to russia and sponsor the economy.
So what does Biden do besides talk nicely? Ukraine does not need words, Ukraine needs weapons and sanctions against the Russians.
If terrorists take over a children's school in Australia and kill a certain number of children a day, will your government trade with these terrorists, give them money, various goods? So, Ukraine is no different from a school in Australia.
Everything is written beautifully and Biden speaks beautifully too. But I have questions.
Yes, a few days ago, Biden did allow Ukrainian pilots to be trained. But it's all too late, very late! Pilots should have been trained as early as 2022. Moreover, it is not clear when and how many aircraft will be given to Ukraine. The Russians have plenty of time to get ready for the F16, now they're raising their whole rusty old air fleet and launching it into the sky. For F16, a lot of vintage aircraft may well be a problem. Biden working for the Russians?
OMG, Stoker - Biden is NOT working for the Russians. He is the last USA politician that would do that. Can you remember the 20 year history I gave you before?
Here is some more info ...
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/09/biden-russia-putin-love-story-492195 (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/09/biden-russia-putin-love-story-492195)
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/19/politics/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-personal-history/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/19/politics/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-personal-history/index.html)
When it coms to putin, Biden is the anti-trump. trump loves putin. Biden has always been outspoken against putin. For example, during his 2020 political campaign, when asked by a journalist whether putin was a murderer - Biden did not hesitate to say, Yes. I can try and find that clip for you if you don't believe me.
1. Why don't Ukraine get F16 planes?
2. Why Ukraine is not given ATACMS missiles?
3. Why did Biden sign the Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022, but there is information that nothing has been delivered under this law yet. Perhaps I am wrong here and you will find somewhere more information whether there were deliveries under this law and when this law ceases to operate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_Democracy_Defense_Lend-Lease_Act_of_2022 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_Democracy_Defense_Lend-Lease_Act_of_2022)
Here you are completely wrong. You can't fulfill any of the demands of the terrorists, because these demands will only grow and the killings will continue. Do not forget that the Russian army has already been practically destroyed by the hands of the Ukrainians and does not pose a threat to the NATO countries. The same terrorist Peskov, to whom you refer, constantly threatens the whole world with some consequences, nevertheless, Ukraine is supplied with air defense, tanks, and artillery. You also need to re-read some of my previous posts in this thread, where I wrote about Russia's plans and the purpose of the occupation of Ukraine.Everything is written beautifully and Biden speaks beautifully too. But I have questions.
Yes, a few days ago, Biden did allow Ukrainian pilots to be trained. But it's all too late, very late! Pilots should have been trained as early as 2022. Moreover, it is not clear when and how many aircraft will be given to Ukraine. The Russians have plenty of time to get ready for the F16, now they're raising their whole rusty old air fleet and launching it into the sky. For F16, a lot of vintage aircraft may well be a problem. Biden working for the Russians?
OMG, Stoker - Biden is NOT working for the Russians. He is the last USA politician that would do that. Can you remember the 20 year history I gave you before?
Here is some more info ...
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/09/biden-russia-putin-love-story-492195 (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/09/biden-russia-putin-love-story-492195)
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/19/politics/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-personal-history/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/19/politics/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-personal-history/index.html)
When it coms to putin, Biden is the anti-trump. trump loves putin. Biden has always been outspoken against putin. For example, during his 2020 political campaign, when asked by a journalist whether putin was a murderer - Biden did not hesitate to say, Yes. I can try and find that clip for you if you don't believe me.
1. Why don't Ukraine get F16 planes?
2. Why Ukraine is not given ATACMS missiles?
3. Why did Biden sign the Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022, but there is information that nothing has been delivered under this law yet. Perhaps I am wrong here and you will find somewhere more information whether there were deliveries under this law and when this law ceases to operate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_Democracy_Defense_Lend-Lease_Act_of_2022 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_Democracy_Defense_Lend-Lease_Act_of_2022)
Because of the threat of WWIII
And its not just USA ...
"Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters that the Russian Embassy in London, for instance, had warned that if Britain decides to supply fighter jets to Kyiv, it "would have military and political consequences for the European continent and the whole world."" CBA News, February 2023
While many leaders of NATO countries are committed to helping Ukraine, they must also protect the security of their own countries - which must come first.
Who is the greater killer and criminal, then who directly kills or the one who stands, looks at the process, has every opportunity to stop and eliminate the killer, but at the same time either does nothing or gives the victim some items so that the victim is not killed very quickly?
Here you are completely wrong. You can't fulfill any of the demands of the terrorists, because these demands will only grow and the killings will continue. Do not forget that the Russian army has already been practically destroyed by the hands of the Ukrainians and does not pose a threat to the NATO countries. The same terrorist Peskov, to whom you refer, constantly threatens the whole world with some consequences, nevertheless, Ukraine is supplied with air defense, tanks, and artillery. You also need to re-read some of my previous posts in this thread, where I wrote about Russia's plans and the purpose of the occupation of Ukraine.Everything is written beautifully and Biden speaks beautifully too. But I have questions.
Yes, a few days ago, Biden did allow Ukrainian pilots to be trained. But it's all too late, very late! Pilots should have been trained as early as 2022. Moreover, it is not clear when and how many aircraft will be given to Ukraine. The Russians have plenty of time to get ready for the F16, now they're raising their whole rusty old air fleet and launching it into the sky. For F16, a lot of vintage aircraft may well be a problem. Biden working for the Russians?
OMG, Stoker - Biden is NOT working for the Russians. He is the last USA politician that would do that. Can you remember the 20 year history I gave you before?
Here is some more info ...
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/09/biden-russia-putin-love-story-492195 (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/09/biden-russia-putin-love-story-492195)
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/19/politics/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-personal-history/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/19/politics/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-personal-history/index.html)
When it coms to putin, Biden is the anti-trump. trump loves putin. Biden has always been outspoken against putin. For example, during his 2020 political campaign, when asked by a journalist whether putin was a murderer - Biden did not hesitate to say, Yes. I can try and find that clip for you if you don't believe me.
1. Why don't Ukraine get F16 planes?
2. Why Ukraine is not given ATACMS missiles?
3. Why did Biden sign the Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022, but there is information that nothing has been delivered under this law yet. Perhaps I am wrong here and you will find somewhere more information whether there were deliveries under this law and when this law ceases to operate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_Democracy_Defense_Lend-Lease_Act_of_2022 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_Democracy_Defense_Lend-Lease_Act_of_2022)
Because of the threat of WWIII
And its not just USA ...
"Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters that the Russian Embassy in London, for instance, had warned that if Britain decides to supply fighter jets to Kyiv, it "would have military and political consequences for the European continent and the whole world."" CBA News, February 2023
While many leaders of NATO countries are committed to helping Ukraine, they must also protect the security of their own countries - which must come first.
The third world war is already underway, in 2022 the Russians delivered an ultimatum to NATO. Not supplying the necessary weapons to Ukraine and not strengthening sanctions is the result of Biden's pro-Russian policy only. Ukraine has been defending the EU, NATO and US interests in Europe for the second year at the cost of the lives of all Ukrainians.
Excuses like Putin will attack NATO, it already smells like Russian propaganda. Why then do we need NATO if it is so afraid of the Russians and is ready to comply with the demands of the Russians.
If the US is afraid of the Russians, then why was there anything to help Ukraine at all? The position of the United States is the position of a coward.
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But I already wrote that the US is not really afraid of the Russians, it's just that this Biden plays dirty political games and trades in Ukraine and the blood of Ukrainians. Biden's policy is beneficial to the Russians. Biden is not much different from his predecessors, Clinton and Obama. Yes, it's basically the same team.
Also, I won’t be too surprised if Biden’s goal is not to help Ukraine, but to exterminate Ukrainians as much as possible, so that when the Russians occupy Ukraine, they have no one to mobilize against NATO countries. But not providing the necessary weapons to Ukraine just leads to the extermination of Ukrainians and gives the Russians the opportunity to occupy Ukraine.
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Some experts say that Biden does not need a Ukrainian victory in 2023, he needs a Ukrainian victory in 2024, before his US elections. No matter how many people die in Ukraine, only Biden's victory in the elections in 2024 matters.
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Who is the greater killer and criminal, then who directly kills or the one who stands, looks at the process, has every opportunity to stop and eliminate the killer, but at the same time either does nothing or gives the victim some items so that the victim is not killed very quickly?
But I already wrote that the US is not really afraid of the Russians, it's just that this Biden plays dirty political games and trades in Ukraine and the blood of Ukrainians. Biden's policy is beneficial to the Russians. Biden is not much different from his predecessors, Clinton and Obama. Yes, it's basically the same team.
Also, I won’t be too surprised if Biden’s goal is not to help Ukraine, but to exterminate Ukrainians as much as possible, so that when the Russians occupy Ukraine, they have no one to mobilize against NATO countries. But not providing the necessary weapons to Ukraine just leads to the extermination of Ukrainians and gives the Russians the opportunity to occupy Ukraine.
________
Some experts say that Biden does not need a Ukrainian victory in 2023, he needs a Ukrainian victory in 2024, before his US elections. No matter how many people die in Ukraine, only Biden's victory in the elections in 2024 matters.
_________
Who is the greater killer and criminal, then who directly kills or the one who stands, looks at the process, has every opportunity to stop and eliminate the killer, but at the same time either does nothing or gives the victim some items so that the victim is not killed very quickly?
I am starting to think that you work for Putin, Stoker. Spreading lies and misinformation about Putin's arch-rival so that everyone votes for the man (trump) he wants to win the next election. Isn't that an old KGB trick?It depends which side to look at. If you look at Biden like an angel and applaud, that's one approach. But we see that there are many people in the US who do not support Biden, which means there is another side of the truth. I just listed the shortcomings of Biden's policy, perhaps there is an explanation for them, but the decision will be made by US citizens in the elections. I am not campaigning, and even here there are no US citizens in the subject.
But seriously, listen to the good people above who are trying to give you some sound advice.
Nobody can want a nuclear war. Not the West, not the Russians, not Ukraine. Not even you!The US and NATO have enough conventional weapons to destroy all of Russia's nuclear weapons. But environmental damage is possible.
The Russian army was not destroyed by Ukraine. This is wishful thinking. If that were the case, there would be no reason to supply more weapons.The elite Russian troops were destroyed in 2022, now the Russian army is only mobilized. Their tanks that they send to the front during the Second World War, removed from storage. And 70% of the Russian army is now between the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea, I can even attach a screenshot from the map. If the Crimean bridge is destroyed and the Armed Forces of Ukraine approach the Sea of Azov, 70% of the Russian army will be surrounded. From a military point of view, it remains only to finish off the Russians, but aviation and missiles are needed.
Whether Biden or Trump: All are aware that Putin has brought the world to the brink of the abyss and are trying to prevent the crash - by weighing up what is still within the bounds of what is acceptable. I am grateful that you are not in the decision-making position. And I believe that the decisive persons and their advisory boards know much more than you and me!Do not be afraid of the Russians, they are terrorists, rashists and only bluff and spread myths.
Sorry to be so upfront. I'm not trying to offend you but confront you with the reality of things because what you write shows little appreciation for the GIANT help that the West is giving Ukraine. I think you should stop doing childish rhetoric. It looks ridiculous, ofensive and of poor character content.I have already written many times that the United States and NATO countries help only themselves first of all. In many places on the world map there have been and are bloody wars and many more people are dying than in Ukraine, but only Ukraine is in the first place in the media and only Ukraine is given weapons. It's called hypocrisy, and it's true. A few days ago I wrote why the occupation of Ukraine is not beneficial to NATO. Therefore, Ukraine should not say thank you. It is because of the bad policies of the EU and the US that the Russians attacked Ukraine. This is the fault of Merkel, who did not let Ukraine into NATO in 2008, this is also the absence of sanctions against the Russian empire for many decades, etc.
Sorry to be so upfront. I'm not trying to offend you but confront you with the reality of things because what you write shows little appreciation for the GIANT help that the West is giving Ukraine. I think you should stop doing childish rhetoric. It looks ridiculous, ofensive and of poor character content.I have already written many times that the United States and NATO countries help only themselves first of all. In many places on the world map there have been and are bloody wars and many more people are dying than in Ukraine, but only Ukraine is in the first place in the media and only Ukraine is given weapons. It's called hypocrisy, and it's true. A few days ago I wrote why the occupation of Ukraine is not beneficial to NATO. Therefore, Ukraine should not say thank you. It is because of the bad policies of the EU and the US that the Russians attacked Ukraine. This is the fault of Merkel, who did not let Ukraine into NATO in 2008, this is also the absence of sanctions against the Russian empire for many decades, etc.
Now that the bridge is non-functional, they must take an even riskier route home, through Mariupol and witness the real horrors of their regime.Yesterday there was already a traffic jam on that bypass road for 25 km. There are Russian checkpoints everywhere and there are mines everywhere on the road. The attraction is great!
But that's not all, although the Allies do not give the Armed Forces of Ukraine aviation, nevertheless, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are slowly moving towards the Sea of Azov in the Zaporizhzhia region. And as soon as the Armed Forces of Ukraine approach the land corridor within the range of an artillery shot, this road will be under constant fire control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. So the Russians don't have much time left to escape from the Ukrainian Crimea.
And in the meanwhile in the reality word that you will ignore like you will ignore any tragedy that the clown pulled his people into as long as he is fighting Russians , the population of Ukraine went from 43M to under 29M and 30 000 people are leaving the country on daily basis according to official Ukrainian data. And anyone who lived trough a war personally knows that refugees tend to start a new life and mostly never come back.
So that Jokerman decided to destroy his own nation instead of choosing neutrality in the game between 2 imperialistic predator states where one is destroying him and the other one is literally giving him the finger and watching him being destroyed while pretending to support him by throwing him breadcrumbs instead of real help because they worry about their own asses in front of the enemy they convinced him is weak.
Kyiv will more likely end up under nuclear cloud than Crimea will get back under Ukrainian jurisdiction and everyone with a gram of unwashed brain knows that.
You can continue with fairy-tails now, sorry for the interruption.
And you can be sure of one thing: if Ukraine ends up under a nuclear cloud, the densely populated parts of Russia will end up under that cloud as well. Putin knows that, too.
Your post is more likely to refer to EU citizens, there are a lot of people who blame the US, but have no claims against the Russians.Sorry to be so upfront. I'm not trying to offend you but confront you with the reality of things because what you write shows little appreciation for the GIANT help that the West is giving Ukraine. I think you should stop doing childish rhetoric. It looks ridiculous, ofensive and of poor character content.I have already written many times that the United States and NATO countries help only themselves first of all. In many places on the world map there have been and are bloody wars and many more people are dying than in Ukraine, but only Ukraine is in the first place in the media and only Ukraine is given weapons. It's called hypocrisy, and it's true. A few days ago I wrote why the occupation of Ukraine is not beneficial to NATO. Therefore, Ukraine should not say thank you. It is because of the bad policies of the EU and the US that the Russians attacked Ukraine. This is the fault of Merkel, who did not let Ukraine into NATO in 2008, this is also the absence of sanctions against the Russian empire for many decades, etc.
There's a lot of sympathy for you here because you seem to be suffering very personally from the war. And rightfully so. Nobody with a clear mind can justify or defend what Russians are doing to Ukraine.
But, also, that's no excuse to talk nonsense, and despite some very patient and well balanced posts from others here, there seems to be no way to change your mind.
I just hope you realize that your anti-biden, anti-merkel narrative and harsh criticism on how NATO, EU and US supports Ukraine perfectly fits the narrative of pro-Russian voices in the west. And some of those pro-Russian voices are on the rise, even winning elections. Beware of that!
NATO-countries invested billions and billions and billions of Dollars or Euro's to support Ukraine. And they continue to do so. Also keep in mind: Ukraine is not NATO, Ukraine is not EU. They don't HAVE to do that. NATO, nor EU-countries nor US are the police of the world. Yet, those countries decided to engage in a proxy war with Russia. Of course, they mainly look after their own interests, rightfully so, and they balance how they support Ukraine to prevent worse. Geopolitical interests and so on. But, bottom-line: it's thanks to them that a big part of Ukraine is still under Ukrainian control and Ukraine is gaining land over Russia again. Russia will not win this war.
So keep your head clear. Criticism is fine, and even justified. But you bite the hand that feeds you very hard, and you seem to be completely unaware of the other hand, the one that mainly supports Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_nuclear_weapon
And you can be sure of one thing: if Ukraine ends up under a nuclear cloud, the densely populated parts of Russia will end up under that cloud as well. Putin knows that, too.
I saw this on twitter last night from the NY Times ...
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1682390061243940864
I just hope you realize that your anti-biden, anti-merkel narrative and harsh criticism on how NATO, EU and US supports Ukraine perfectly fits the narrative of pro-Russian voices in the west. And some of those pro-Russian voices are on the rise, even winning elections. Beware of that!1. Budapest Memorandum
NATO-countries invested billions and billions and billions of Dollars or Euro's to support Ukraine. And they continue to do so. Also keep in mind: Ukraine is not NATO, Ukraine is not EU. They don't HAVE to do that. NATO, nor EU-countries nor US are the police of the world. Yet, those countries decided to engage in a proxy war with Russia. Of course, they mainly look after their own interests, rightfully so, and they balance how they support Ukraine to prevent worse. Geopolitical interests and so on. But, bottom-line: it's thanks to them that a big part of Ukraine is still under Ukrainian control and Ukraine is gaining land over Russia again. Russia will not win this war.
This should settle some different opinions... i google and find interesting these relaxing and calming exercises:;D ;D ;D
A) Take a break. Focus on your breathing. Listen to music.
B) Spend some time in nature. Try active relaxation. Think of somewhere else.
C) Try guided meditation. Get creative.
:)
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https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/geheim-papier-enthuellt-bundeswehr-kritisiert-erstmals-die-ukraine-armee-84802800.bild.html (https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/geheim-papier-enthuellt-bundeswehr-kritisiert-erstmals-die-ukraine-armee-84802800.bild.html)
German Defence Ministry points out shortcomings of Ukrainian counteroffensive.
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https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/geheim-papier-enthuellt-bundeswehr-kritisiert-erstmals-die-ukraine-armee-84802800.bild.html (https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/geheim-papier-enthuellt-bundeswehr-kritisiert-erstmals-die-ukraine-armee-84802800.bild.html)
German Defence Ministry points out shortcomings of Ukrainian counteroffensive.
The Bundeswehr has criticised the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the counteroffensive, stating that they are using the skills acquired during training abroad incorrectly.
The German military considers the division of combat units one of the main disadvantages of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They remark that "a joint battle leadership is not recognizable".
Not only does this "increase the risk of friendly fire", but it also leads to "manoeuvring elements lacking in focus [because the soldiers are trying] to build up [their] own momentum or establish fire superiority".
In other words, as long as Ukraine divides the brigades which have undergone training in the West into groups of 10-30 soldiers, isolated from the rest of the troops, neither Western training, nor superior armament, nor large quantity of manpower will be of any use.
In addition to this, Bundeswehr also criticised the training of experienced Ukrainian soldiers, who allegedly learn the principles of Western training worse than others, or do not participate in it at all.
It is stated in the document that the command staff sometimes demonstrates "considerable deficiencies in leadership and in the application of management processes at the respective level, which sometimes leads to wrong and dangerous decisions".
These factors – the separation of combat units and absence of proper training of command staff – may explain the slow advancement of the Ukrainian forces during the counteroffensive.
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Or maybe the Germans should come to Ukraine and show how to fight the Russians? Instead of telling there from under the NATO umbrella what Ukraine should do and how to do it.
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I am posting the story of a soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine about training in Germany under the guidance of US instructors:
• There were many fighters with combat experience in the unit, but the program was still made as for recruits.
• Classes lasted for 6 hours, until lunch. Most of it was theory. After dinner, it was frankly not her to do.
• Shootings were carried out once a month. Shooting at targets at 100-200-300 meters, for everything about everything - three stores.
• A week taught how to use maps and give coordinates for strikes. The Americans did not use electronic applications - everything was the old fashioned way, with compasses and pieces of paper. They looked at smartphones and tablets with suspicion: “the equipment will fail, but the papers are always with you.” Familiar, isn't it?
• A similar situation with UAVs: according to the author, US soldiers have no concept of using copters at all. “They don’t even have an analogue of the Chinese Mavic 3, it was a shock for us.”
• Artillery adjustment exercises were interesting, but also not suitable for the Ukrainian conflict: “for them, the challenge of artillery is to suppress one target and the mission is completed. This concept is unlikely to work for us, with a limited amount of ammunition, and a huge number of targets".
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RalfLiebhold, I don't see any official statements from the Bundeswehr yet. Information hit the Internet, which means there was a reaction.
If you do not agree with my opinion, you can not read me.
p.s. Roderich Kiesewetter would not say all this if everything was clear and beautiful in the German information space.
Ukraine is at war not only with Russians on the battlefield, but also with Russian agents in other countries of the world.
My point is that the Bundeswehr has leaked information that is not in the public domain. From this information it follows that in Germany there are forces that want to denigrate the Armed Forces of Ukraine and force Ukraine to sign a surrender - to give Crimea, Donbass and the land corridor to Crimea to the Russians. Some Democrats are also nurturing such ideas. All these agents of Putin want to say that the Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot fight and NATO is wasting money and weapons helping Ukraine. Although, in fact, the success of the Armed Forces of Ukraine directly depends on the volume and range of arms supplies.RalfLiebhold, I don't see any official statements from the Bundeswehr yet. Information hit the Internet, which means there was a reaction.
If you do not agree with my opinion, you can not read me.
p.s. Roderich Kiesewetter would not say all this if everything was clear and beautiful in the German information space.
Ukraine is at war not only with Russians on the battlefield, but also with Russian agents in other countries of the world.
I continue to not know what you are alluding to here.
There are numerous past statements by Bundeswehr officials that paint a different picture than this ominous paper. So this paper does not describe, as you interpret it, an official German opinion. It is in the nature of things that there are also dissenting opinions, and this is part of a democratic, open society.
And yes, the space of information in Germany is completely in order. It is obvious that an information space that allows different opinions is not necessarily clear and beautiful.
It's probably actually because I really "can't read you"
You have the patience of a saint Ralf.That's the problem, that Ukraine does not receive the necessary assistance in sufficient volume. Perhaps in your media they tell you otherwise, or rather they lie.
The more I read, the less I wonder if some people are actually not interested in getting Ukraine the help it needs.
Not that anything we write here makes a difference to the horrible war.
You have the patience of a saint Ralf.
The more I read, the less I wonder if some people are actually not interested in getting Ukraine the help it needs.
Not that anything we write here makes a difference to the horrible war.
Let's leave him alone again.+100
Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022.
This law was drafted and submitted by the Republican Party for Biden's signature. And who here constantly says that the Republicans are Putin's friends ....
For Ukraine, the best president is Mike Pence. Naturally, Ukraine is forced to work with Biden, but this does not mean that the Ukrainians are happy with him.Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022.
This law was drafted and submitted by the Republican Party for Biden's signature. And who here constantly says that the Republicans are Putin's friends ....
The bill passed in the House of Representatives by a vote of 417–10 on April 28, 2022.
The ten representatives, all from the Republican Party, who voted against the bill were: Andy Biggs of Arizona, Dan Bishop of North Carolina, Warren Davidson of Ohio, Matt Gaetz of Florida, Paul Gosar of Arizona, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, Thomas Massie of Kentucky, Ralph Norman of South Carolina, Scott Perry of Pennsylvania and Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin.
All these are republican extremists. Extremely vocal and influential in the MAGA world.
Their number grew stronger on the next bill, when 70+ opposed additional aid for Ukraine. Again, all of them were MAGA "republicans".
When trump will win the nomination, this number will become a majority. The party will rally, again, behind their leader's isolationist view of the world (as they did in 2016).
And then you will kiss goodbye to any subsequent aid for Ukraine.
You are failing to ackowledge that all these bills had unanimity from the democrats and were endorsed and signed into law by a democrat president.
But you can continue to dream about what the GoP once was (or what it could be without trump's ideology) ... ::)
In reality, Ukraine's best bet is a democrat majority, and a democrat in the White House.
Like it or not.
For Ukraine, the best president is Mike Pence. Naturally, Ukraine is forced to work with Biden, but this does not mean that the Ukrainians are happy with him.
Zero Talent, I gave the facts, and you are engaged in pre-election political campaigning and anti-advertising of the Republicans. You have already decided everything for them. ;D
When you do that you are alienating your true friends and helping grow the so called "Ukraine fatigue". :(
The International Fencing Federation (FIE) decided to disqualify Ukrainian Olga Harlan after her victory over Russian athlete Anna Smirnova.
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When you do that you are alienating your true friends and helping grow the so called "Ukraine fatigue". :(
That's exactly my impression, too, which is why I've posted here occasionally.
Stoker does not only himself no favor with his contributions here, but ultimately also Ukraine.
Exactly for your mentioned reason.
I find this not quite harmless and hope that the range of this thread is not large.
When you do that you are alienating your true friends and helping grow the so called "Ukraine fatigue". :(
That's exactly my impression, too, which is why I've posted here occasionally.
Stoker does not only himself no favor with his contributions here, but ultimately also Ukraine.
Exactly for your mentioned reason.
I find this not quite harmless and hope that the range of this thread is not large.
I've had exactly the same problem and I thought it was just me. I have Polish/Ukrainian family on my mother's side, and I was always very concerned about what's happening in Ukraine - until now.
At first it was informative - until he got onto the fake news/political misinformation and attacking other countries and USA leaders without understanding the truth about what is really going on - and stubbornly refusing to let go.
This thread has been read over 25,000 times so maybe it is making a difference to others as well.
in front of a hostile home crowd.The Russians have not changed, but they have become even more evil and turned into Na.zis and Rashists.
(https://i.ibb.co/J3v5CHR/Screenshot-524.jpg)Be careful with that revisionist map!
Ukraine and Ukrainians. The map shows the fair borders of Ukraine.
Photo from 1919. There is no Soviet Union yet, but there is Ukraine.
Be careful with that revisionist map!I think this map rather says that Crimea and Kuban are Ukrainian territory. On the map we see Lviv, which means that this map also takes into account those territories that at that time were under the occupation of Poland. The war for the independence of Ukraine was historically fought not only against the Russians.
It doesn't include Ukranian territories that use to belong to Romania, but now part of the Ukrainian internationally recognized borders (by Romania inclusive). These territories were seized by Stalin in 1940 and given to the soviet republic of Ukraine.
By promoting this map, are you saying that you want to give up the western part of Ukraine to extend it to the east?
I don't think so.
I understand what you are trying to say, but this is not helping you.You do not take everything into account, or rather, you argue at the level of 2021 and earlier. In 2022, everything has changed and the whole world has changed. I'm not saying that Ukraine should officially annex the territory of Russia. I'm talking about the fact that in the conditions of the war with Russia, the Armed Forces of Ukraine can enter any territory of Russia and take this territory under fire control in order to secure Ukraine. When there is a war, the laws and rules of war are completely different. Ukraine inflicts military strikes on the territory of Russia, this is the same thing. But if the Russian aggression against Ukraine stops, the Russians want to pay reparations, hand over all their war criminals, sign their capitulation, then naturally Ukraine will not continue to occupy the territories of Russia. But I will tell you that it is more likely that Russia will cease to exist as a country than it will stop its aggression against Ukraine. But when Russia ceases to exist, there may already be options here, for example, residents of the same Kuban may want to join Ukraine.
What matters is the internationally recognized Ukrainian borders of today, including Crimea.
If you open that can of worms, if you start claiming territories inside the official russian borders, then Romania could also claim territories inside Ukraine, territories occupied and annexed by the soviet army in 1940, territories that historically belonged to Romania or Romanian principalities.
You would not like that, I'm sure.
Do yourself a favor and don't promote revisionist maps, anymore.
I agree that it's justified to fight the russian occupiers and to strike inside their official territory, to cripple their logistics, and the support for the invasion.The Armed Forces of Ukraine can not only strike at the territory of Russia, but also the Armed Forces of Ukraine can enter the territory of Russia and take control of those territories from which aggression against Ukraine is coming.
That's a totally different story than the one you showed on that map.
This very contradiction and lack of transparency is what led to a Chinese spy balloons entering our air space. The lack of action by the Biden administration cause widespread fear and confusion and only after (some) days and only after it had travelled the entire continental United States were two jets deployed to shoot it down. This flip flopping ... (from memory) she goes on to say change is needed and with that she yields back her time.
New major poll of Republican electorate show that majority do not want to send more aid to Ukraine.As I understand it, part of his electorate, about 60%, do not want to increase assistance to Ukraine. This means that they are not against aid to Ukraine, they just do not want it to increase. These statistics mean nothing, really.
I perfectly understand those people who live in the USA and who do not like the internal politics of the Republicans. If I lived in the US, I would also vote for the Democrats. But if you look at US foreign policy, then the Republicans, in my opinion, have a better foreign policy.
Zero Talent, you have not carefully studied the columns that Annie brought here. Follow the link, it's clearer. I talked about the first 2 columns, and they reflect the desires of 60% of Trump's core electorate. Also, you did not understand what it was about, these people are not against helping Ukraine, they believe that it is given enough. Obviously it means money.I perfectly understand those people who live in the USA and who do not like the internal politics of the Republicans. If I lived in the US, I would also vote for the Democrats. But if you look at US foreign policy, then the Republicans, in my opinion, have a better foreign policy.Again, and for the 5th time, because you bury your head in the sand like the ostriches on your previous post, refusing to face the reality: you are assuming that the GoP is still made of those represented by the 3rd column in Annie's table.
This is wishful thinking. These days are gone. The 3rd column is a minority, today. They are only 25%, and even this 25% will shrink, when trump will become their candidate.
While I agree that the current administration can do better, a GoP victory will be a disaster for Ukraine.
Ukraine will be left alone or only with a clealry insufficient EU support.
Be careful what you wish for, because you might get it.
Zero Talent, this is your personal interpretation. I am 100% sure that even if the Republicans occupy the White House, assistance to Ukraine will not be stopped.
Better write about how bad Trump is as a person, how conservative all these Republicans are,
How on what facts? On real facts. Trump was already president, unlike Obama, he gave Ukraine the FGM-148 Javelin.Zero Talent, this is your personal interpretation. I am 100% sure that even if the Republicans occupy the White House, assistance to Ukraine will not be stopped.
Stoker, what facts or polls are you basing this on?
If you read the paragraphs just above and below that graph in the New York Times article above, it says:
"There's the group of voters who may not love Mr. Trump, but who remain open to him in the primary and in some cases support him over the alternatives. It's a group that's broadly reflective of the Republican electorate as a whole. Its somewhat conservative ...
There's also a second group of voters who probably won't support Mr. Trump ... These voters tend to be educated, affluent, moderate, and they're often more than just Trump sceptics ...
These two groups of voters don't just differ on Trump; they disagree on the issues as well. Mr. Trump's skeptics support additional military and economic aid to Ukraine, and comprehensive immigration reform, while they oppose a six-week abortion ban."
In other words, the more moderate or liberal a person is, the more likely they want to continue aiding Ukraine with MILITARY and economic aid. Expand this across the whole USA, and I agree with what Zero says above: a republican win is the worse outcome for Ukraine.
So thanks only to populism, the Republicans can win the election. So this is their electoral tactic. I don't care what they say, I have to watch what they do.
Better write about how bad Trump is as a person, how conservative all these Republicans are,
I don't care much about how bad Trump is as a person, I rather care about how bad his policies and ignorance are for the country.
Besides, being conservative is not a bad thing. I would gladly vote for a "real" republican, realist and fiscally responsible, able to protect personal freedoms and liberties.
But this species is a "rara avis" these days with zero chance to be elected as a GoP candidate. Moderate democrats have occupied this space, while the GoP has drifted into populism and extremism.
Why are Democrats chewing snot? Let them arrest Trump, put him in jail. Or they can't even do that. So who is the ostrich then? Me or Democrats?
How on what facts? On real facts. Trump was already president, unlike Obama, he gave Ukraine the FGM-148 Javelin.Zero Talent, this is your personal interpretation. I am 100% sure that even if the Republicans occupy the White House, assistance to Ukraine will not be stopped.
Stoker, what facts or polls are you basing this on?
If you read the paragraphs just above and below that graph in the New York Times article above, it says:
"There's the group of voters who may not love Mr. Trump, but who remain open to him in the primary and in some cases support him over the alternatives. It's a group that's broadly reflective of the Republican electorate as a whole. Its somewhat conservative ...
There's also a second group of voters who probably won't support Mr. Trump ... These voters tend to be educated, affluent, moderate, and they're often more than just Trump sceptics ...
These two groups of voters don't just differ on Trump; they disagree on the issues as well. Mr. Trump's skeptics support additional military and economic aid to Ukraine, and comprehensive immigration reform, while they oppose a six-week abortion ban."
In other words, the more moderate or liberal a person is, the more likely they want to continue aiding Ukraine with MILITARY and economic aid. Expand this across the whole USA, and I agree with what Zero says above: a republican win is the worse outcome for Ukraine.
You do not quite understand what is written in that article. Additional help or no additional help, these are all abstract things. Ukraine needs concrete assistance, this is aviation and missiles. It's not about money, it's about politics and political will. So the Democrats have no political will.
You write about money all the time, forget about it, money doesn't solve anything. On the battlefield, only weapons decide.
Why are Democrats chewing snot? Let them arrest Trump, put him in jail. Or they can't even do that. So who is the ostrich then? Me or Democrats?
Democrats cannot arrest anyone. That's not how democracy works.
That's something only the justice system can do.
And only the justice system can send him to jail, not the democrats. And only if he is found guilty, of course.
I watched the movie "Don't Look Up", which is very much like the politics of the Democrats. For those who haven't watched, take a look.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Up
Researchers agree, according to media reports, that Russian trolls may have helped Trump win the 2016 election. Whether this is true, I cannot judge. But I am certain about it when I claim that weakening democracy in the U.S. is very much in Russia's interest. A politically unstable U.S. is good for Russia. Putin knows that. And does everything to support a guarantor of the weakening of democracy - Donald Trump.+100
In Africa - currently in Niger and other countries - Russia is currently also trying to infiltrate democratic tendencies and expand its own influence. There is also war or the threat of war there.
Be that as it may, you should think very carefully about whether you would prefer a Trump to a Biden. Trump goes over corpses for his very personal reputation. Also Ukraine could be one of these corpses! He personally doesn't care much about that.
It doesn't matter who I am. The main thing is that I am not Russian and do not live in Russia. ;D ;D ;DI watched the movie "Don't Look Up", which is very much like the politics of the Democrats. For those who haven't watched, take a look.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Up
Don't Look Up' is about climate change and a satire about many groups of people indifferences, not just government. And certainly not about governments who have given so much already.
Maybe you should watch it again?
I forgot to ask you, Stoker, are you actually Ukrainian? And what country do you live in?
BTW, did you see the recent interview with President Obama and Christiane Amanpour where he addresses the 2014 Ukraine issue? It starts at around 4:50 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3zgCVqqf3Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3zgCVqqf3Q)
In my opinion, this film says that the US authorities cannot even help their own country, not to mention help other countries. Indirectly, there is criticism of the Democrats, in my opinion. But I will not argue about this film, I think everyone should watch it and have their own point of view.I watched the movie "Don't Look Up", which is very much like the politics of the Democrats. For those who haven't watched, take a look.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Up
Don't Look Up' is about climate change and a satire about many groups of people indifferences, not just government. And certainly not about governments who have given so much already.
It doesn't matter who I am. The main thing is that I am not Russian and do not live in Russia. ;D ;D ;DI watched the movie "Don't Look Up", which is very much like the politics of the Democrats. For those who haven't watched, take a look.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Up
Don't Look Up' is about climate change and a satire about many groups of people indifferences, not just government. And certainly not about governments who have given so much already.
Maybe you should watch it again?
I forgot to ask you, Stoker, are you actually Ukrainian? And what country do you live in?
I don't think that Trump will get elected again. He will try of course, one last grift and maybe another little attack horde killing their way to the capitol for him.Yes, Trump or DeSantis have little chance of winning right now. But much will depend on Biden's success or failure.
Annie, I don't post my personal information on the forums, that's the rule.
At the expense of hatred for the Russians, they are so hated in all civilized countries of the world. A few days ago, I gave a link to a video where Russians are being beaten. Russians are treated well only by those who are under the influence of Russian propaganda and lies.
Annie, I don't post my personal information on the forums, that's the rule.
At the expense of hatred for the Russians, they are so hated in all civilized countries of the world. A few days ago, I gave a link to a video where Russians are being beaten. Russians are treated well only by those who are under the influence of Russian propaganda and lies.
My mother was Polish and she hatred Russians too. I understand this, but I don't agree with it.
Hatred is behind most of the problems in the world today. It makes people weak and suspectable to manipulation. Putin uses it, Trump uses it, big fossil fuel corporations use it. I am an accountant and an independent non-party voter, and there's a part of me that's pro-business, but I also want global warming addressed.
It's happening in America right now, where one party hates the other so much that they will believe lies or elect criminals purely to stop the other party from winning.
Yes, hatred exists and it's here and all over the world, but its a weakness. Past grievances cause it, poverty makes it worse, education improves it. But the first step is to accept that its wrong and the rest will follow. The worse thing to do is to justify it.
FWIW, if Trump really is reelected and thinks he can hand over Ukraine wrapped with red ribbons and a golden bow to Putin as his personal fiefdom, the world will see Europe really stepping up.
There is currently a lot of activity to build new weapons factories and many are being built in Ukraine.
If we cannot rely on Uncle Sam, then Europe will step up.
Putin will never have Ukraine. On the contrary, he has revived and empowered NATO and Europe has never been this united on anything.
I understand the frustration of Ukraine, but this is a process that will end with all of Ukraine liberated and also Ukraine becoming a full member of Nato and EU.
Because Putin still has a huge supply of young men he can draft and kill, the war will drag on, maybe even for a few years.
Ukraine will win in the end. Russia will become a servant of China and part of the Chinese empire.
The war also forces Ukraine to deal with their own corruption and mafia that all former soviet states have to deal with.
I don't think that Trump will get elected again. He will try of course, one last grift and maybe another little attack horde killing their way to the capitol for him.
But then he will go to jail.
Because even those that benefitted from him, are tired of him.
Annie, I don't post my personal information on the forums, that's the rule.
At the expense of hatred for the Russians, they are so hated in all civilized countries of the world. A few days ago, I gave a link to a video where Russians are being beaten. Russians are treated well only by those who are under the influence of Russian propaganda and lies.
My mother was Polish and she hatred Russians too. I understand this, but I don't agree with it.
Hatred is behind most of the problems in the world today. It makes people weak and suspectable to manipulation. Putin uses it, Trump uses it, big fossil fuel corporations use it. I am an accountant and an independent non-party voter, and there's a part of me that's pro-business, but I also want global warming addressed.
It's happening in America right now, where one party hates the other so much that they will believe lies or elect criminals purely to stop the other party from winning.
Yes, hatred exists and it's here and all over the world, but its a weakness. Past grievances cause it, poverty makes it worse, education improves it. But the first step is to accept that its wrong and the rest will follow. The worse thing to do is to justify it.
I agree with all of your points. If everyone thought and felt the way you do, the world would be a better place! Unfortunately, there are too many money- and power-hungry.
I wrote a lot in the beginning of this thread about not labelling people, not taking sides, and understanding what is REALLY going on in the world. I believe that makes us more and more impervious to being manipulated by greedy or power hungry politicians and leaders.This is a very strange philosophy during the war. And this philosophy will not save from evil.
Germany does not fulfill its promises on the supply of weapons to Ukraine. Germany continues the policy of the Kremlin agent Merkel?
https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article246721222/Unterstuetzung-fuer-Ukraine-Trotz-grosser-Versprechen-Deutschland-zoegert-weiter-bei-Waffenlieferungen.html (https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article246721222/Unterstuetzung-fuer-Ukraine-Trotz-grosser-Versprechen-Deutschland-zoegert-weiter-bei-Waffenlieferungen.html)
https://deaidua.medium.com/fact-check-welt-de-despite-big-promises-3fc3dd37d39b (https://deaidua.medium.com/fact-check-welt-de-despite-big-promises-3fc3dd37d39b)
https://deaidua.medium.com/fact-check-welt-de-despite-big-promises-3fc3dd37d39b (https://deaidua.medium.com/fact-check-welt-de-despite-big-promises-3fc3dd37d39b)
Who is gregor schwung? Blogger? What kind of site is this deaidua.medium (for blogs)? The Russians can find a bunch of trolls to act as Scholz's lawyers.
An article with accusations has been published in the press, bloggers-lawyers are no longer needed here.
I hope that the accusations against Scholz will lead to the supply of the necessary amount of weapons to Ukraine. I also hope that the Germans will have an impact on their government.
https://deaidua.medium.com/fact-check-welt-de-despite-big-promises-3fc3dd37d39b (https://deaidua.medium.com/fact-check-welt-de-despite-big-promises-3fc3dd37d39b)
Who is gregor schwung? Blogger? What kind of site is this deaidua.medium (for blogs)? The Russians can find a bunch of trolls to act as Scholz's lawyers.
An article with accusations has been published in the press, bloggers-lawyers are no longer needed here.
I hope that the accusations against Scholz will lead to the supply of the necessary amount of weapons to Ukraine. I also hope that the Germans will have an impact on their government.
And who are you? - blogger?, who always postulates to know and spread the only truth.
You always make the same mistake. You look for any article that fits into your world view and then draw your conclusions, in this case from a newspaper that likes to report very tendentious and polarizing.
The whole problem with military aid lies more in the reasons as Big Toe described.
What depresses me a bit as a fellow reader and quasi spectator is that you show exactly the same cognitive distortion as the Russians are said to have. Where such a distorted perception with tunnel vision can lead to, we see right now - at least to nothing good.
https://deaidua.medium.com/fact-check-welt-de-despite-big-promises-3fc3dd37d39b (https://deaidua.medium.com/fact-check-welt-de-despite-big-promises-3fc3dd37d39b)
Who is gregor schwung? Blogger? What kind of site is this deaidua.medium (for blogs)? The Russians can find a bunch of trolls to act as Scholz's lawyers.
An article with accusations has been published in the press, bloggers-lawyers are no longer needed here.
I hope that the accusations against Scholz will lead to the supply of the necessary amount of weapons to Ukraine. I also hope that the Germans will have an impact on their government.
And who are you? - blogger?, who always postulates to know and spread the only truth.
You always make the same mistake. You look for any article that fits into your world view and then draw your conclusions, in this case from a newspaper that likes to report very tendentious and polarizing.
The whole problem with military aid lies more in the reasons as Big Toe described.
What depresses me a bit as a fellow reader and quasi spectator is that you show exactly the same cognitive distortion as the Russians are said to have. Where such a distorted perception with tunnel vision can lead to, we see right now - at least to nothing good.
What claims can be made to me personally? welt.de is your German press. You don't trust your press?
I support the desired topic, publish information from well-known publications.
You don't post anything, don't write anything, that's the ostrich pose.
Germany has supported Russia financially for decades (and even now buys gas from the Russians); Merkel prevented Ukraine from joining NATO in 2008; Germany has lobbied for the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.https://deaidua.medium.com/fact-check-welt-de-despite-big-promises-3fc3dd37d39b (https://deaidua.medium.com/fact-check-welt-de-despite-big-promises-3fc3dd37d39b)
Who is gregor schwung? Blogger? What kind of site is this deaidua.medium (for blogs)? The Russians can find a bunch of trolls to act as Scholz's lawyers.
An article with accusations has been published in the press, bloggers-lawyers are no longer needed here.
I hope that the accusations against Scholz will lead to the supply of the necessary amount of weapons to Ukraine. I also hope that the Germans will have an impact on their government.
And who are you? - blogger?, who always postulates to know and spread the only truth.
You always make the same mistake. You look for any article that fits into your world view and then draw your conclusions, in this case from a newspaper that likes to report very tendentious and polarizing.
The whole problem with military aid lies more in the reasons as Big Toe described.
What depresses me a bit as a fellow reader and quasi spectator is that you show exactly the same cognitive distortion as the Russians are said to have. Where such a distorted perception with tunnel vision can lead to, we see right now - at least to nothing good.
What claims can be made to me personally? welt.de is your German press. You don't trust your press?
I support the desired topic, publish information from well-known publications.
You don't post anything, don't write anything, that's the ostrich pose.
My ostrich pose is a head stretched way up, not in front of the keyboard, but in the real world - so you get a lot more facets of the world.
What I reproach you personally:
"Germans! Get your government resigned! Your government is working for Putin!"
In addition to military and financial aid, Germany has now taken in more than 1,000,000 Ukrainians who, like every German, have full access to the social and health care systems without any red tape.
One can certainly talk about details, but the magic word here is first and foremost: Thank you.
Stoker, with the last contribution you have now really shot the bird.(https://r6z4d5g2.rocketcdn.me/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/straus_golovu-v-pesok.jpg)
Your propaganda is even worse than that of the Russians - but presented in a much more amateurish way. I'll leave you alone again.
This is somehow not a discussion among intelligent adults here.
Germany has supported Russia financially for decades (and even now buys gas from the Russians); Merkel prevented Ukraine from joining NATO in 2008; Germany has lobbied for the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.https://deaidua.medium.com/fact-check-welt-de-despite-big-promises-3fc3dd37d39b (https://deaidua.medium.com/fact-check-welt-de-despite-big-promises-3fc3dd37d39b)
Who is gregor schwung? Blogger? What kind of site is this deaidua.medium (for blogs)? The Russians can find a bunch of trolls to act as Scholz's lawyers.
An article with accusations has been published in the press, bloggers-lawyers are no longer needed here.
I hope that the accusations against Scholz will lead to the supply of the necessary amount of weapons to Ukraine. I also hope that the Germans will have an impact on their government.
And who are you? - blogger?, who always postulates to know and spread the only truth.
You always make the same mistake. You look for any article that fits into your world view and then draw your conclusions, in this case from a newspaper that likes to report very tendentious and polarizing.
The whole problem with military aid lies more in the reasons as Big Toe described.
What depresses me a bit as a fellow reader and quasi spectator is that you show exactly the same cognitive distortion as the Russians are said to have. Where such a distorted perception with tunnel vision can lead to, we see right now - at least to nothing good.
What claims can be made to me personally? welt.de is your German press. You don't trust your press?
I support the desired topic, publish information from well-known publications.
You don't post anything, don't write anything, that's the ostrich pose.
My ostrich pose is a head stretched way up, not in front of the keyboard, but in the real world - so you get a lot more facets of the world.
What I reproach you personally:
"Germans! Get your government resigned! Your government is working for Putin!"
In addition to military and financial aid, Germany has now taken in more than 1,000,000 Ukrainians who, like every German, have full access to the social and health care systems without any red tape.
One can certainly talk about details, but the magic word here is first and foremost: Thank you.
What thanks are you talking about? There are only claims to Germany. And now a scandal has flared up about the non-delivery of the necessary weapons to Ukraine.
Germany is more of an ally of Russia than a friend of Ukraine.
Yes, Germany supplies some weapons, but only under pressure. I hope this scandal will allow Ukraine to get the necessary weapons from Germany faster.
And at the expense of the fact that Germany took refugees. These refugees work for you, pay taxes that cover all German expenses for Ukrainian refugees. Moreover, the Germans are pleased that Ukrainians came to them, and not Arabs or Africans. Germany still has to pay Ukraine for the fact that the citizens of Ukraine work for the German economy.
"Germans! Get your government resigned! Your government is working for Putin!"
And how else to call the non-delivery of weapons promised by Scholz to Ukraine?
Stoker, with the last contribution you have now really shot the bird.
Your propaganda is even worse than that of the Russians - but presented in a much more amateurish way. I'll leave you alone again.
This is somehow not a discussion among intelligent adults here.
Regardless of that, many of your statements are far-fetched! Your KGB agents and all this other nonsense - where do you get all this crap from?Wake up there in Germany, wake up in Europe. World War III has been going on for 10 years. Your and not only your position is the position of ostriches. I have already provided a photo.
You think only black or white. Which shows that you have no idea how much tact it takes to save the world from a third world war.
I stand by this and have written this here before: I am very grateful that people who think like you do are not in political responsibility.
90% of Ukrainians in Germany don't work...and many people are now suggesting they should go back to the peaceful parts of Ukraine.Please provide a link to the stats. I read that refugees in the EU pay a lot of taxes and develop the economy. If 90% do not work in Germany, then this is the problem of Germany, which pays a very large allowance and it is more profitable for people not to work than to work. A good allowance is normal if a person is disabled and cannot work. Therefore, only the disabled should receive a good allowance. I also read that many Germans do not work, but live on welfare.
It would certainly be cheaper to support them directly at home.
I would like to ask you to familiarize yourself with facts before you make assertions that do not correspond to the truth!Disagree. Ukraine is harmed by Scholz, who does not give the weapons he promised to give.
With what you write, you harm Ukraine! You should think about it every time you write something.
I have written some things to your statements. You obviously did not notice it and did not comment on it. I assume that you have not even read it.
In parts of Germany there are now very strong right-wing populist and pro-Russian tendencies. This is fomented by the Russians. Part of the problem lies in the refugees from Ukraine. Who, from the point of view of the right-wing populists, do not work and yet receive money from the German state. These are the same people who - also fomented by Russia - also claimed during the Corona pandemic that democracy and civil liberties were being abolished in Germany.
With all your statements, you are pouring oil on this fire. A fire that burns more and more in favor of the Russians. Do you really want that? I do not think so!
the explanation is supposedly that there isn‘t enough childcare, or german language is not good enough.All these difficulties can be overcome if there is a strong desire and intention. The make-up artist I worked with for many years recently moved to Vienna. She learned German in a few months, raises her child there, and works as a successful Makeup Artist & Hairstylist. The main thing is to strive not to be a dependent of the state, but to make efforts for self-development. https://www.instagram.com/irina_m_makeup (https://www.instagram.com/irina_m_makeup)
https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/deutschland/wirtschaft/ukraine-gefluechtete-arbeit-job-huerden-100.html (https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/deutschland/wirtschaft/ukraine-gefluechtete-arbeit-job-huerden-100.html)
of the 561 000 ukraine refugees only 38 000 have jobs that pay into the social security system or taxes.
the explanation is supposedly that there isn‘t enough childcare, or german language is not good enough.
but the reality for all refugees and economic migrants is that in germanit is extremely easy to simply not work and enjoy a fantastic life at the expense of the hard working German taxpayer, who has to collect bottles in old age because the pension system does not work.
in addition, ukraine refugees have made a name for being pretty arrogant on the job market. they refuse to take simple jobs you can do without language skills „those are for the arabs, not for us“ original quote I heard.
they also frequently go back and forth to ukraine.
Which is why I think it would make a lot more sense to declare a „safe zone“ in ukraine, bring in international soldiers and protection if needed and supply people wi8th schools, housing etc there…
It would be a lot cheaper and people would be home to start rebuilding or at least improve their education and learn new skills until the war is over.
if you add some german language schools, then those that reach a certain level could then move to germany and actually get a job.
plus it would lessen the pressure in germany on finding a rentable home. The market is completely empty and sadly the government often decides if there is new housing by the state to fill it only with migrants or refugees.
It is building a lot of resentment in the population, hence the strong drift to extreme right wing parties.
ETA
There are jobs absolutely everywhere in germany. But you have to get up early, work hard and after taxes you won‘t have a lot more than those living on social benefits.
german tax money is better invested in weapons imo.+100
as hard as it is, europe has to become a war economy, because this war will last until putin dies. and this can take years.I already wrote that Ukraine is not at war with putin, Ukraine is at war with the Russian people - rashists.
Regardless of that, many of your statements are far-fetched! Your KGB agents and all this other nonsense - where do you get all this crap from?Wake up there in Germany, wake up in Europe. World War III has been going on for 10 years. Your and not only your position is the position of ostriches. I have already provided a photo.
You think only black or white. Which shows that you have no idea how much tact it takes to save the world from a third world war.
I stand by this and have written this here before: I am very grateful that people who think like you do are not in political responsibility.
You can support the Democrats, who are dragging out the victory of Ukraine as much as possible and strengthening the Russians, you can support the policies of Merkel and her colleague Scholz. It's all happened before, the annexation of the Sudetenland in 1938. Doesn't this remind you of anything? Learn history, and don't talk about peace in times of war. Ukraine needs weapons, and whoever does not give them is an enemy and an agent of the Russians. Yes, and according to the laws of wartime, only a tribunal awaits enemies - execution or gallows.
i am all for helping ukraine.
but the money that is being spent on people here who do not work, could be better used in ukraine itself.
many areas of ukraine are safe. and can be made even safer with special military protection.
life in germany is extremely expensive.
for what is being paid here for 600 000 people could easily take care of 6 million in ukraine. maybe even more.
nobody benefits from wasting money, least of all the ukrainians.
german tax money is better invested in weapons imo.
and if you invest in housing in ukraine, you are helping the economy there.
plus people would be at home, schools could be expanded.
the german government should put ending the war first and that means allocating all possible resources into the military.
as hard as it is, europe has to become a war economy, because this war will last until putin dies. and this can take years.
it also might not end with him, there might be an even more incompetent over emotional tyrant coming in after him.
ukraine is huge, there is plenty of space to build schools, housing and learning centers.
and from there add recruitement centers for those who want to live and work in other parts of europe.
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many of my family have spent years in war zones, especially the 15 year war in lebanon, invasion of kuwait etc…
you cannot help people by wasting money. you must solve the problem, in this case keep throwing money into the military until all of ukraine is liberated
that is the best psychological help for trauma.
get putin and his *insult removed* out of there.
trauma counseling for victims is best done in ukraine. at home.
not in a far away land in a different language where every thing reminds you that you should not be here.
war is horrible.
their physical bodies might be in germany but their hearts and souls are at home. every moment they worry if their families are alive, if their friends are doing well.
put the military first, kick russia out.
Many here on the forum and in the EU and in other countries of the world do not understand that World War III has been going on for 10 years.
Very strange trends of German exports to former soviet countries still under russian influence!+100
Excellent marketing or a shameful way to avoid sanctions? 🤔
;D ;D ;DRegardless of that, many of your statements are far-fetched! Your KGB agents and all this other nonsense - where do you get all this crap from?Wake up there in Germany, wake up in Europe. World War III has been going on for 10 years. Your and not only your position is the position of ostriches. I have already provided a photo.
You think only black or white. Which shows that you have no idea how much tact it takes to save the world from a third world war.
I stand by this and have written this here before: I am very grateful that people who think like you do are not in political responsibility.
You can support the Democrats, who are dragging out the victory of Ukraine as much as possible and strengthening the Russians, you can support the policies of Merkel and her colleague Scholz. It's all happened before, the annexation of the Sudetenland in 1938. Doesn't this remind you of anything? Learn history, and don't talk about peace in times of war. Ukraine needs weapons, and whoever does not give them is an enemy and an agent of the Russians. Yes, and according to the laws of wartime, only a tribunal awaits enemies - execution or gallows.
I could also support the right-wing party instead of the democratic parties here in Germany.
Their attitude to Ukraine is quite simple: "Ukraine's problems are none of our business. No money, no weapons! We should buy raw materials from Russia again, so that inflation here will fall again and German companies will remain competitive on the international markets. Build a border fence around Germany against all refugees so that Germany remains German. And push the Dexit (English Gexit). Out of the EU. And wave Russian flags while doing it."
Is that what you think I should rather do? Because you criticize that I tend to be more attracted to the "Democrats"?
This party, which I would compare in many ways to the Republicans in the U.S., could be described by the slogan "Germany First." Ukraine has no place in it - but I had already tried to explain that to you in vain.
You obviously have no idea what's going on here in Germany! And in my opinion also not about what is going on in the USA.
Armenia is the second graph in the post I made above.Very strange trends of German exports to former soviet countries still under russian influence!+100
Excellent marketing or a shameful way to avoid sanctions? 🤔
At the same time, Russian satellite countries are also supplied with dual-use goods, which Ukrainians later find in Russian military drones and missiles. Sanctions against Russia have been introduced only formally.
These are such countries as Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan. By the way, all these countries are also under the control of China.
There is also Armenia, this country also supports the Russians.
This can't be a coincidence.Of course this is not a coincidence. This is how the Russians avoid sanctions. There is also China, which has also increased trade with the Russians.
>:(
This can't be a coincidence.Of course this is not a coincidence. This is how the Russians avoid sanctions. There is also China, which has also increased trade with the Russians.
>:(
So what exactly is Germany exporting to these satellite countries of Russia?
I see cars, machinery, electronics....These are dual-use goods, the Russians use them to produce rockets, drones, planes, helicopters, etc.
This can't be a coincidence.Of course this is not a coincidence. This is how the Russians avoid sanctions. There is also China, which has also increased trade with the Russians.
>:(
So what exactly is Germany exporting to these satellite countries of Russia?
Details for 2022 here:
https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/exports/kyrgyzstan (https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/exports/kyrgyzstan)
I see cars, machinery, electronics....
Yes, obviously. But two wrongs don't make a right.
The problem does not lie exclusively in Germany
Yes, obviously. But two wrongs don't make a right.
The problem does not lie exclusively in Germany
#whatabout Italy doesn't justify anything.
I showed Germany not only because it was part of this discussion, but mainly because it's the biggest EU economy.
One would expect Germany to be an example. :(
Yes, obviously. But two wrongs don't make a right.
The problem does not lie exclusively in Germany
#whatabout Italy doesn't justify anything.
I showed Germany not only because it was part of this discussion, but mainly because it's the biggest EU economy.
One would expect Germany to be an example. :(
Russians unfortunately also live all over Europe and influence trade,
You presented a graph about Italy when the discussion was about Germany.
That's basically the definition of whataboutism.
This is from the same category as "Yes, russia invaded Ukraine, but what about the US invading Irak"?
Or: "Yes russia is an colonial power, but whatabout the US colonizing a continent".... etc.
These exports are to be stopped without question
These exports are to be stopped without question
That's what matters. Thanks! 👏
;D ;D ;DRegardless of that, many of your statements are far-fetched! Your KGB agents and all this other nonsense - where do you get all this crap from?Wake up there in Germany, wake up in Europe. World War III has been going on for 10 years. Your and not only your position is the position of ostriches. I have already provided a photo.
You think only black or white. Which shows that you have no idea how much tact it takes to save the world from a third world war.
I stand by this and have written this here before: I am very grateful that people who think like you do are not in political responsibility.
You can support the Democrats, who are dragging out the victory of Ukraine as much as possible and strengthening the Russians, you can support the policies of Merkel and her colleague Scholz. It's all happened before, the annexation of the Sudetenland in 1938. Doesn't this remind you of anything? Learn history, and don't talk about peace in times of war. Ukraine needs weapons, and whoever does not give them is an enemy and an agent of the Russians. Yes, and according to the laws of wartime, only a tribunal awaits enemies - execution or gallows.
I could also support the right-wing party instead of the democratic parties here in Germany.
Their attitude to Ukraine is quite simple: "Ukraine's problems are none of our business. No money, no weapons! We should buy raw materials from Russia again, so that inflation here will fall again and German companies will remain competitive on the international markets. Build a border fence around Germany against all refugees so that Germany remains German. And push the Dexit (English Gexit). Out of the EU. And wave Russian flags while doing it."
Is that what you think I should rather do? Because you criticize that I tend to be more attracted to the "Democrats"?
This party, which I would compare in many ways to the Republicans in the U.S., could be described by the slogan "Germany First." Ukraine has no place in it - but I had already tried to explain that to you in vain.
You obviously have no idea what's going on here in Germany! And in my opinion also not about what is going on in the USA.
So, if Germany does what you wrote, very soon Russian troops and tanks will occupy half or even all of Germany, as it already was, and the Russians will kill and rape your women and children (as they did in 1945) . After the occupation, Putin will recreate the KGB branch in Germany, and all these German collaborators will make a career in the occupation authorities.
;D ;D ;DRegardless of that, many of your statements are far-fetched! Your KGB agents and all this other nonsense - where do you get all this crap from?Wake up there in Germany, wake up in Europe. World War III has been going on for 10 years. Your and not only your position is the position of ostriches. I have already provided a photo.
You think only black or white. Which shows that you have no idea how much tact it takes to save the world from a third world war.
I stand by this and have written this here before: I am very grateful that people who think like you do are not in political responsibility.
You can support the Democrats, who are dragging out the victory of Ukraine as much as possible and strengthening the Russians, you can support the policies of Merkel and her colleague Scholz. It's all happened before, the annexation of the Sudetenland in 1938. Doesn't this remind you of anything? Learn history, and don't talk about peace in times of war. Ukraine needs weapons, and whoever does not give them is an enemy and an agent of the Russians. Yes, and according to the laws of wartime, only a tribunal awaits enemies - execution or gallows.
I could also support the right-wing party instead of the democratic parties here in Germany.
Their attitude to Ukraine is quite simple: "Ukraine's problems are none of our business. No money, no weapons! We should buy raw materials from Russia again, so that inflation here will fall again and German companies will remain competitive on the international markets. Build a border fence around Germany against all refugees so that Germany remains German. And push the Dexit (English Gexit). Out of the EU. And wave Russian flags while doing it."
Is that what you think I should rather do? Because you criticize that I tend to be more attracted to the "Democrats"?
This party, which I would compare in many ways to the Republicans in the U.S., could be described by the slogan "Germany First." Ukraine has no place in it - but I had already tried to explain that to you in vain.
You obviously have no idea what's going on here in Germany! And in my opinion also not about what is going on in the USA.
2. You do not know well who the Republicans are and are guided only by the populism and idiocy of Trump and some of his supporters.
3. It's okay to criticize the Democrats, because they are now in power and far from doing everything right. In the democratic world, it is considered normal to criticize and even dismiss governments.
These exports are to be stopped without question
That's what matters. Thanks! 👏
Do you have a suggestion how that should be done?
These exports are to be stopped without question
That's what matters. Thanks! 👏
Do you have a suggestion how that should be done?
Yes... All governments are granting export licenses to companies under their jurisdiction.
The German government and the EU should disallow exports to Kyrgyzstan & Co, and take action against the cheating companies.
Yes... All governments are granting export licenses to companies under their jurisdiction.
The German government and the EU should disallow exports to Kyrgyzstan & Co, and take action against the cheating companies.
Yes... All governments are granting export licenses to companies under their jurisdiction.
The German government and the EU should disallow exports to Kyrgyzstan & Co, and take action against the cheating companies.
Oh, you could have mentioned before you are a communist ;D
These exports are to be stopped without question
That's what matters. Thanks! 👏
Do you have a suggestion how that should be done?
Yes... All governments are granting export licenses to companies under their jurisdiction.
The German government and the EU should disallow exports to Kyrgyzstan & Co, and take action against the cheating companies.
For most transactions, you do not need an export license. At least that is the case in the USA:
https://www.trade.gov/export-licenses (https://www.trade.gov/export-licenses)
And I do not think that it is different in the EU.
And it will not help to disallow exports to Kyrgyzstan & Co, as Russia then will just use other countries. Or do you suggest that we should also disallow exports to China, India and Turkey?
Ceasing all exports to the former Sowjet republics may also proof to be counter productive as it will make them dependent on Russia and their allys.
And it will not help to disallow exports to Kyrgyzstan & Co, as Russia then will just use other countries. Or do you suggest that we should also disallow exports to China, India and Turkey?
Ceasing all exports to the former Sowjet republics may also proof to be counter productive as it will make them dependent on Russia and their allys.
The German government has all the tools needed to stop this from happening.
Here is an extract from the German Export regulations:
6. Restrictions
...
When exporting to a third country, however, it should be noted that not all countries may be exported due to embargoes.
A distinction is made between
- arms embargo
- partial embargo
- Total embargo.
The total embargo prohibits all economic transactions with the affected state ...
I don't think the German government was stupid and didn't know what was going on. I instead believe that they closed their eyes until some Reuters journalist analyzed the stats and broke the news, triggering the German Finance Minster to say:
"The circumvention of sanctions against Russia is unacceptable,"
It's sad and hypocritical, but better late than never if there is political will and actions will follow words...
And it will not help to disallow exports to Kyrgyzstan & Co, as Russia then will just use other countries. Or do you suggest that we should also disallow exports to China, India and Turkey?
Ceasing all exports to the former Sowjet republics may also proof to be counter productive as it will make them dependent on Russia and their allys.
The German government has all the tools needed to stop this from happening.
Here is an extract from the German Export regulations:
6. Restrictions
...
When exporting to a third country, however, it should be noted that not all countries may be exported due to embargoes.
A distinction is made between
- arms embargo
- partial embargo
- Total embargo.
The total embargo prohibits all economic transactions with the affected state ...
I don't think the German government was stupid and didn't know what was going on. I instead believe that they closed their eyes until some Reuters journalist analyzed the stats and broke the news, triggering the German Finance Minster to say:
"The circumvention of sanctions against Russia is unacceptable,"
It's sad and hypocritical, but better late than never if there is political will and actions will follow words...
Could you please answer my question, whether you suggest that Germany or the EU should stop all exports to countries like China, India or Turkey? Because that would be needed to stop the Russians from importing stuff via proxy.
What is the point of talking about countries from the Customs union if your countries sell their goods in Russia themselves? Look, for example, at the list of brands in one of the hypermarkets of my city in the depths of Siberia: https://mega.ru/shops/novosibirsk??? ::) :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
More than a third of Europe's area is located in Russia. More than 15% of the European population is in Russia. Don't you think that sanctions from Europe are more like economic suicide? Business will never go for it and will always find workarounds.
Any war ends with negotiations. The sooner we succeed in bringing all the leaders to the negotiating table, the sooner we will begin to live in peace and restore broken relations.
All Russians are bad people.+100
....and the EU will also receive sanctions for trade with Russians.
We all know here that this does not represent Wilms' opinion.But this phrase well reflects my opinion and not only mine, but also of millions of Ukrainians and all those who are waging war against modern fascism represented by Russia.
Find at least one Russian who correctly answers the 5 questionsWhen a person with Nazi views judges the correctness of the answers, this is not even funny.
All Russians are bad people.+100
;D ;D ;D
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Sentences and statements are intentionally taken out of context and thus misrepresented.:o
I terminate all communication with you.:'( :'( :'(
An interesting article recently published in The Economist (ending with a great Scholz statement 👏)It's time for the world media to say that when Kyiv was, Moscow was not even in the project yet. Muscovy arose on the lands previously owned by Ukrainians.
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that Ukraine is an artificial entity created on land that is rightfully Russia’s
At a recent political rally near Berlin Olaf Scholz, Germany’s chancellor, found himself heckled by a chorus of beefy peaceniks shouting “Warmonger!” Normally polite, soft-spoken and unflappable, Mr Scholz roared back into the microphone that it was Mr Putin who wanted to destroy and conquer Ukraine. “If you loudmouths had even a little bit of brain, you would know the real warmonger!” [/i]I would like that in addition to loud and beautiful words, Scholz did something against the Russians. He supplied weapons to Ukraine, stopped trade with Russia.
My point was about exports to Kyrgyzstan and Armenia and to countries that are in the custom union with russia.
In this case, the same embargo applied to russia must be applied to these countries too, unless they choose to break away from this union. It's a simple, logical, and straightforward solution.
You are diverting the focus toward other cases. Is this another form of #whataboutism? "Yes, you talk about cheating through Kyrgystan, but #whatabout cheating through China"? ::)
Anyway... let me fall for that.
I agree, it is more complicated, but if there is political will, this cheating can be stopped too. Germany and the EU have all the legal tools needed to prevent German and EU companies to export specific goods ending up in russia, through all 3rd countries acting as a proxy.
Even if there are legal loopholes, if there is political will, these loopholes can be closed.
You presented a graph about Italy when the discussion was about Germany.
That's basically the definition of whataboutism.
This is from the same category as "Yes, russia invaded Ukraine, but what about the US invading Irak"?
Or: "Yes russia is an colonial power, but whatabout the US colonizing a continent".... etc.
Finally, because I don't think we're coming together here.
These exports are to be stopped without question. I posted the chart to show that this is not an exclusive German problem, but a European problem.
But you have just unpacked the big Whataboutism show here.
We are not talking weapons or other restricted material here, after all.That's what we're talking about. The Russians buy what they need to produce missiles, drones and other military equipment.
The USSR was behind an iron wall. Russia and all the countries that support it should be behind the iron wall. There is a third world war with fascism, if you continue to support the Russians and China, it will end very badly for the world. All politicians who promote trade with the Russians should be put in jail. Democrats in the US have not yet imposed sanctions on countries that supply Russia. So I wouldn't be surprised if the Democrats lose the election.You presented a graph about Italy when the discussion was about Germany.
That's basically the definition of whataboutism.
This is from the same category as "Yes, russia invaded Ukraine, but what about the US invading Irak"?
Or: "Yes russia is an colonial power, but whatabout the US colonizing a continent".... etc.
Finally, because I don't think we're coming together here.
These exports are to be stopped without question. I posted the chart to show that this is not an exclusive German problem, but a European problem.
But you have just unpacked the big Whataboutism show here.
Yes,there are sadly many European companies being investigated for indirectly trading with Moscow and circumventing sanctions,triangulating with Maldives,India and Armenia and other countries.
in 2022,53 million of dollars of USA semiconductors passed through the Maldives on their way to Moscow….so what?
United States is not spotless,just as Italy is not or Germany or any other NATO country,there are no knights in shining armor,often integrity fails when it comes to money…lots of money!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/10/poland-president-duda-ukraine-interview/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/10/poland-president-duda-ukraine-interview/)russian imperialism is in plain sight, not hidden behind that phrase.
“It is very simple,” Polish President Andrzej Duda told me last week. “Right now, Russian imperialism can be stopped cheaply, because American soldiers are not dying.”
How much is hidden behind this phrase...
Statistics about Republican support for Ukraine and Biden's very weak policy. Most Republicans support Ukraine and against the Russians!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/27/republicans-support-ukraine-war/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/27/republicans-support-ukraine-war/)
You also fail or don't want to understand (ostrich syndrome?) that trump claims he’ll end the war in 24 hours. And that's by asking Ukrainians to give up their lands or else stop all US aid.You don't have to listen to what the politicians say. We need to look at what will happen under their rule. The point is that Biden and Scholz sing songs in defense of Ukraine, but at the same time they do not give Ukraine the necessary weapons, forbid them to be used where necessary. Germany trades with the Russians.
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Zero Talent, I have provided a link to the stats. I do not argue with your phrases, because I do not claim the opposite. I don't care about Trump and his supporters, I wrote about the Republicans.
Statistics about Republican support for Ukraine and Biden's very weak policy. Most Republicans support Ukraine and against the Russians!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/27/republicans-support-ukraine-war/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/27/republicans-support-ukraine-war/)
... and yet, what you fail or don't want to understand (ostrich syndrome?) is that those who initiated the anti-Ukraine amendments were Republicans: Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene, both HUGE trump supporters, because they think alike and their policies are identical.
You also fail or don't want to understand (ostrich syndrome?) that ALL those 70+ who voted in favor of those anti-Ukraine amendments were Republicans, while NONE ( = ZERO) of the elected Democrats supported them.
You also fail or don't want to understand (ostrich syndrome?) that if 59% of Americans support continued U.S. military assistance for Ukraine, but only 50% of the Republicans, this means that we rather have more Ukraine skeptics among Republicans than Democrats.
You also fail or don't want to understand (ostrich syndrome?) that trump will win the GoP nomination.
You also fail or don't want to understand (ostrich syndrome?) that trump claims he’ll end the war in 24 hours. And that's by asking Ukrainians to give up their lands or else stop all US aid.
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Slava Ukraini!
(https://media.tenor.com/xz4ukCgpZQsAAAAM/ukraine-ninisjgufi.gif)
Trump and his supporters ARE Republicans.This was covered in the article I linked to. Such proposals are supported only by a small group of people.
He will win the nomination and all Republicans will align behind him, like they did in 2016 and 2020.
Here is another attempt to defund Biden's administration support for Ukraine, initiated yesterday, by Republicans.
Republican strategist and former Trump adviser Elbridge Colby, who is being touted in Washington as a potential foreign policy adviser to a possible incoming Republican administration, says the U.S. needs all resources to focus on a confrontation with China.Yes it's true. I agree with such statements. China poses a serious threat to the entire world. The Russian Empire attacked Ukraine on the orders of China. If the Chinese empire is liquidated, all other fascist countries such as North Korea, Iran and Russia will quickly self-destruct.
He considers the Russia-Ukraine conflict to be comparatively insignificant and a European problem.
He says the burden of the Ukraine war must be borne by Europe - the U.S. has no resources to spare for it.
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Trump and his supporters ARE Republicans.This was covered in the article I linked to.
He will win the nomination and all Republicans will align behind him, like they did in 2016 and 2020.
Here is another attempt to defund Biden's administration support for Ukraine, initiated yesterday, by Republicans.
July 27 or August 11, what's the difference? The same people offer something. You clearly do not understand what was written in that article. You probably really like the Democrats. You tell a lot of horror stories, constantly mention the ostrich. In my opinion, the ostrich in this case is you. ;DTrump and his supporters ARE Republicans.This was covered in the article I linked to.
He will win the nomination and all Republicans will align behind him, like they did in 2016 and 2020.
Here is another attempt to defund Biden's administration support for Ukraine, initiated yesterday, by Republicans.
No. It was not. Your article is from July 27th and it is discussing 2 older Republican initiatives.
The one I just mentioned above is a new Republican push against Ukraine, from yesterday, August 11th, 2023.
You still don't get it: Republicans are an existential threat to Ukraine. They are relentless. They will offer it (or a big chunk of it) to putin on a silver plate if trump takes control of the White House.
Amazing how deep the ostrich buried his head in the sand. :-\
So, thanks to the Democrats and the Germans, the war in Ukraine continues.
This topic has nothing to do with the REAL war currently confronting ALL of us but it does emphasize the total stupidity and lack of true leadership our little blue planet needs. Rasputin, Bideless, Justin Tooslow, etc. It doesn't matter. This planet is dying while we, the people, elect clowns to carry on convincing the
masses that their actions are conducted to strengthen and protect the borders they live within. This is while the real enemy, climate change and global warming, is destroying our little blue planet.
We are documentarians. Our images present the stark truth. The reality of the era we live in and how our Clowns, with their focus on domination, ignores the true reality. Our planet is dying. The images we take are solid and indisputable. Let's hope our concerted effort will convince the masses before it's too late.
Let's hope our concerted effort will convince the masses before it's too late.Russians and Chinese will not be convinced. Most of the Russians live in conditions comparable to the Middle Ages and according to the rules of the barbarians. For two years now, the Russians have been creating ecocide in Ukraine, and they promise to blow up the nuclear power plant. I see in the world media little is written about the damage to the environment for the entire planet. Everyone thinks that if the Russians blew up the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, then the chemical waste remains only in Ukraine, but this is a lie.
The policy of cowardly democrats leads to the slow extermination of Ukraine and Ukrainians. The protection of the EU countries is achieved through the daily sacrifice of Ukrainians to the Russian orcs.So, thanks to the Democrats and the Germans, the war in Ukraine continues.
Yes, indeed. Without their support for the Ukraine, Putin would problaby hosting a victory parade in Kyiv by now.
This banner, displayed in Tambov/russia shows the old soviet union plus the former Warsaw Pact countries, the former Yugoslavia, Greece, Finland, Mongolia and Alaska as part of a unified Russia, under the slogan:
"We will teach you to love the Motherland".
Valid for Alaska!!!
Well done, russia, well done! ::)
:o ::)This banner, displayed in Tambov/russia shows the old soviet union plus the former Warsaw Pact countries, the former Yugoslavia, Greece, Finland, Mongolia and Alaska as part of a unified Russia, under the slogan:
"We will teach you to love the Motherland".
Valid for Alaska!!!
Well done, russia, well done! ::)
Incredible!
This topic has nothing to do with the REAL war currently confronting ALL of us but it does emphasize the total stupidity and lack of true leadership our little blue planet needs. Rasputin, Bideless, Justin Tooslow, etc. It doesn't matter. This planet is dying while we, the people, elect clowns to carry on convincing the
masses that their actions are conducted to strengthen and protect the borders they live within. This is while the real enemy, climate change and global warming, is destroying our little blue planet.
We are documentarians. Our images present the stark truth. The reality of the era we live in and how our Clowns, with their focus on domination, ignores the true reality. Our planet is dying. The images we take are solid and indisputable. Let's hope our concerted effort will convince the masses before it's too late.
This topic has nothing to do with the REAL war currently confronting ALL of us but it does emphasize the total stupidity and lack of true leadership our little blue planet needs. Rasputin, Bideless, Justin Tooslow, etc. It doesn't matter. This planet is dying while we, the people, elect clowns to carry on convincing the
masses that their actions are conducted to strengthen and protect the borders they live within. This is while the real enemy, climate change and global warming, is destroying our little blue planet.
We are documentarians. Our images present the stark truth. The reality of the era we live in and how our Clowns, with their focus on domination, ignores the true reality. Our planet is dying. The images we take are solid and indisputable. Let's hope our concerted effort will convince the masses before it's too late.
Finally a different topic on this multi topic thread.
Completely agree with nature going wild as we were used to have it. On the long term it's not that weird. Where I live we had a kilometer (around 3,000 feet) of ice on our land and we have had periods you could just walk to England on the oceans bed.
Man made disaster or not (nowadays) what is it you prefer to put your money on and focus on? In reducing CO2 emissions or in water level protection? Or both, whatever you believe. Just curious :)
Personally I believe that focus should be on preventing damage first and then on spending money on this questionable CO2 story. I am convinced we have put more CO2 in the air then if we were not there but I still think (look at all the bush fires and volcano eruptions) that mother nature is quite a bit stronger of getting things twisted then we are. Life will always go on, with or without us, whatever we do, so then in order to protect our species defence should be our focus now. Not saying we should change our way of life but deal with immenent threats first. You know building dikes along rivers, seawalls etc...
With just focussing on CO2 reduction (which is a good idea) it's just wishful thinking that problems will go away by itself.
To give you an example. With covid we have reduced an enormous amount in Co2 reduction for two years, yet we are confronted with enormous natural disasters this year. Sure things don't work that quickly and it is matter of decades but still we are not prepared to take on these disasters (man made or not) and we are not putting any money in preventing this collateral damage, are we?
So, if you had (theoretically) 100 dollars to spend. How much would go to prevention and how much to to protection?
Ecological problems are a consequence of the existence of such fascist and totalitarian empires as Russia and China. Without eliminating the cause, it will not be possible to eliminate the consequences.
The EU countries relied on Russian gas and planned to improve their ecology. The war in Europe has led to the fact that the EU is no longer up to the environment. As I understand it, coal is also used to eliminate dependence on Russian gas.
Talking about the environment is certainly good, but not during the war. For some reason, these conversations remind me of ostriches with their heads stuck in the sand.
I was in the USA, the cities have clean air. You have not seen what kind of air is in the cities of China or Russia.Ecological problems are a consequence of the existence of such fascist and totalitarian empires as Russia and China. Without eliminating the cause, it will not be possible to eliminate the consequences.
The EU countries relied on Russian gas and planned to improve their ecology. The war in Europe has led to the fact that the EU is no longer up to the environment. As I understand it, coal is also used to eliminate dependence on Russian gas.
Talking about the environment is certainly good, but not during the war. For some reason, these conversations remind me of ostriches with their heads stuck in the sand.
actually 2.8 planet earths would be needed to satisfy the needs of the entire Italian population and instead 5 planet earths would be needed if everyone lived as a US citizen.
Surely the United States is the worst country in the world for environmental impact and destructive lifestyle for the planet.
Not that I like this,just reporting the facts.
I was in the USA, the cities have clean air. You have not seen what kind of air is in the cities of China or Russia.
Also, we are talking not only about emissions into the atmosphere, but also about environmental disasters that Russia commits.
It is clear that the population of China is much larger than the population of the United States. But where does China spend money from outsourcing (as you say)? China produces many weapons and sponsors terrorist regimes in other countries. And if he spent this money on treatment facilities, technologies? The same applies to Russia.
I was in the USA, the cities have clean air. You have not seen what kind of air is in the cities of China or Russia.
Also, we are talking not only about emissions into the atmosphere, but also about environmental disasters that Russia commits.
Did you miss the bit where the West gets almost all it's manufacturing and raw material extraction done abroad? That also outsources the pollution. Same as sending all that “recycling” to be dumped abroad.
Also you have to look per capita, not total. So even given the above, CO2 emissions per capita China=7.44 USA=15.32. (Surprised to see UK=5.60)
This is irrelevant to the discussion, but Ukraine is also grotesquely polluted in places (prior to the war) and needed a lot of help cleaning up, which I had some faith would happen before the outbreak of war.
I write that it is impossible to invest in communist, fascist and terrorist countries and empires. These empires must be liquidated. If Russia and China break up into many new countries, it will be possible to work with these countries, prohibit them from having weapons, require them to preserve the environment, and only after that give them money.
Talking about the environment is certainly good, but not during the war. For some reason, these conversations remind me of ostriches with their heads stuck in the sand.
The whole thing seems to interest no one in the world.People only watch what the media shows them.
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_enYes, this is a very good channel on Twitter. I recommend everyone who is against the Russians to subscribe.
An article about how Russia conducts war, from the Chechen conflict. Seems to fit perfectly with what's going on now. Very disturbing reading.+100
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-sep-17-mn-22524-story.html (https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-sep-17-mn-22524-story.html)
China and Russia are waging another Cold War — is the West up to the challenge?It is actually completely the other way around if you have paid any attention the last few years. But it's useless to try and convince you.
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4152050-china-and-russia-are-waging-another-cold-war-when-will-we-act/
Yes, it's completely the other way around, if you paid any attention for the past 2 years.Go back a little further Zero.
russia is waging a real war, not a cold one. >:(
As I understand it, China is killing hundreds of thousands of Americans with lethal drugs. And the same drugs are also supplied to the EU countries.You are so a mental case that it's almost funny. Glad for you that you have your friend Zero backing you all the time. But djeezz how do you come up with this stuff?
China should be subject to the same sanctions as Russia and North Korea. I believe that this is already a war with the use of biological weapons of mass destruction. Why is there no appropriate response to China's attacks?
“99 percent of the fentanyl is coming from precursor drugs from China, and then it’s manufactured by two cartels, the Jalisco and Sinaloa Cartels, and they’re the ones that are bringing it across the border,”
https://trone.house.gov/2023/01/08/chinas-role-in-illicit-fentanyl-running-rampant-on-us-streets/ (https://trone.house.gov/2023/01/08/chinas-role-in-illicit-fentanyl-running-rampant-on-us-streets/)
China’s Role in Illicit Fentanyl Running Rampant on US Streets
Why is fentanyl so dangerous?
The powerful opioid is the leading cause of overdose deaths in America.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/03/fentanyl-opioid-epidemic/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/03/fentanyl-opioid-epidemic/)
As I understand it, China is killing hundreds of thousands of Americans with lethal drugs. And the same drugs are also supplied to the EU countries.You are so a mental case that it's almost funny. Glad for you that you have your friend Zero backing you all the time. But djeezz how do you come up with this stuff?
China should be subject to the same sanctions as Russia and North Korea. I believe that this is already a war with the use of biological weapons of mass destruction. Why is there no appropriate response to China's attacks?
“99 percent of the fentanyl is coming from precursor drugs from China, and then it’s manufactured by two cartels, the Jalisco and Sinaloa Cartels, and they’re the ones that are bringing it across the border,”
https://trone.house.gov/2023/01/08/chinas-role-in-illicit-fentanyl-running-rampant-on-us-streets/ (https://trone.house.gov/2023/01/08/chinas-role-in-illicit-fentanyl-running-rampant-on-us-streets/)
China’s Role in Illicit Fentanyl Running Rampant on US Streets
Why is fentanyl so dangerous?
The powerful opioid is the leading cause of overdose deaths in America.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/03/fentanyl-opioid-epidemic/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/03/fentanyl-opioid-epidemic/)
Yes, it's completely the other way around, if you paid any attention for the past 2 years.Go back a little further Zero.
russia is waging a real war, not a cold one. >:(
You need to re-read those two articles to which I gave links. China sends lethal drugs to America not only through Mexico, but also by regular mail, for example. And Mexico doesn't produce these deadly drugs, it helps China ship them to the US. It's like saying that Mexico is to blame for everything, although China produces drugs.As I understand it, China is killing hundreds of thousands of Americans with lethal drugs. And the same drugs are also supplied to the EU countries.You are so a mental case that it's almost funny. Glad for you that you have your friend Zero backing you all the time. But djeezz how do you come up with this stuff?
China should be subject to the same sanctions as Russia and North Korea. I believe that this is already a war with the use of biological weapons of mass destruction. Why is there no appropriate response to China's attacks?
“99 percent of the fentanyl is coming from precursor drugs from China, and then it’s manufactured by two cartels, the Jalisco and Sinaloa Cartels, and they’re the ones that are bringing it across the border,”
https://trone.house.gov/2023/01/08/chinas-role-in-illicit-fentanyl-running-rampant-on-us-streets/ (https://trone.house.gov/2023/01/08/chinas-role-in-illicit-fentanyl-running-rampant-on-us-streets/)
China’s Role in Illicit Fentanyl Running Rampant on US Streets
Why is fentanyl so dangerous?
The powerful opioid is the leading cause of overdose deaths in America.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/03/fentanyl-opioid-epidemic/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/03/fentanyl-opioid-epidemic/)
Yes. We went from 'making precursor chemicals' to 'killing people' in one big leap.
But the truth is nearly 8 out of 10 medications have some component made in China - including chemo drugs, birth control, antidepressants, over the counter pain pills and vitamins, and medicines to treat diabetes.
People have to be careful of taking 2 and 2 and coming up with 5, because this is how fake conspiracies mislead others and cause a lot of problems.
I am not defending China, but we've missed an important step and that is the illicit drugs are made by Mexican drug cartels.
But the truth is nearly 8 out of 10 medications have some component made in China - including chemo drugs, birth control, antidepressants, over the counter pain pills and vitamins, and medicines to treat diabetes.This is a huge mistake of democratic countries. In 1970, there was no need to conclude trade agreements with communist and totalitarian China. There was no need to invest in China and place almost all production there. It's like placing production and investments in Russia. You shouldn't have listened to Kissinger. You don't have to listen to him now.
You need to re-read those two articles to which I gave links. China sends lethal drugs to America not only through Mexico, but also by regular mail, for example. And Mexico doesn't produce these deadly drugs, it helps China ship them to the US. It's like saying that Mexico is to blame for everything, although China produces drugs.As I understand it, China is killing hundreds of thousands of Americans with lethal drugs. And the same drugs are also supplied to the EU countries.You are so a mental case that it's almost funny. Glad for you that you have your friend Zero backing you all the time. But djeezz how do you come up with this stuff?
China should be subject to the same sanctions as Russia and North Korea. I believe that this is already a war with the use of biological weapons of mass destruction. Why is there no appropriate response to China's attacks?
“99 percent of the fentanyl is coming from precursor drugs from China, and then it’s manufactured by two cartels, the Jalisco and Sinaloa Cartels, and they’re the ones that are bringing it across the border,”
https://trone.house.gov/2023/01/08/chinas-role-in-illicit-fentanyl-running-rampant-on-us-streets/ (https://trone.house.gov/2023/01/08/chinas-role-in-illicit-fentanyl-running-rampant-on-us-streets/)
China’s Role in Illicit Fentanyl Running Rampant on US Streets
Why is fentanyl so dangerous?
The powerful opioid is the leading cause of overdose deaths in America.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/03/fentanyl-opioid-epidemic/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/03/fentanyl-opioid-epidemic/)
Yes. We went from 'making precursor chemicals' to 'killing people' in one big leap.
But the truth is nearly 8 out of 10 medications have some component made in China - including chemo drugs, birth control, antidepressants, over the counter pain pills and vitamins, and medicines to treat diabetes.
People have to be careful of taking 2 and 2 and coming up with 5, because this is how fake conspiracies mislead others and cause a lot of problems.
I am not defending China, but we've missed an important step and that is the illicit drugs are made by Mexican drug cartels.
I see a lot of things not being said in the world media to people.
Let's continue. You are mixing everything together. I have not yet written about how lethal drugs are distributed inside the United States and how they are transferred to people. You do understand that there are lethal drugs from which people die, and there are non-lethal drugs that rarely die from.You need to re-read those two articles to which I gave links. China sends lethal drugs to America not only through Mexico, but also by regular mail, for example. And Mexico doesn't produce these deadly drugs, it helps China ship them to the US. It's like saying that Mexico is to blame for everything, although China produces drugs.As I understand it, China is killing hundreds of thousands of Americans with lethal drugs. And the same drugs are also supplied to the EU countries.You are so a mental case that it's almost funny. Glad for you that you have your friend Zero backing you all the time. But djeezz how do you come up with this stuff?
China should be subject to the same sanctions as Russia and North Korea. I believe that this is already a war with the use of biological weapons of mass destruction. Why is there no appropriate response to China's attacks?
“99 percent of the fentanyl is coming from precursor drugs from China, and then it’s manufactured by two cartels, the Jalisco and Sinaloa Cartels, and they’re the ones that are bringing it across the border,”
https://trone.house.gov/2023/01/08/chinas-role-in-illicit-fentanyl-running-rampant-on-us-streets/ (https://trone.house.gov/2023/01/08/chinas-role-in-illicit-fentanyl-running-rampant-on-us-streets/)
China’s Role in Illicit Fentanyl Running Rampant on US Streets
Why is fentanyl so dangerous?
The powerful opioid is the leading cause of overdose deaths in America.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/03/fentanyl-opioid-epidemic/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/03/fentanyl-opioid-epidemic/)
Yes. We went from 'making precursor chemicals' to 'killing people' in one big leap.
But the truth is nearly 8 out of 10 medications have some component made in China - including chemo drugs, birth control, antidepressants, over the counter pain pills and vitamins, and medicines to treat diabetes.
People have to be careful of taking 2 and 2 and coming up with 5, because this is how fake conspiracies mislead others and cause a lot of problems.
I am not defending China, but we've missed an important step and that is the illicit drugs are made by Mexican drug cartels.
I see a lot of things not being said in the world media to people.
No, you need to re-read those articles, Stoker.
From the first paragraph of the Trone link:
U.S. authorities say that China remains the primary source of the precursor chemicals, which are then processed and manufactured into synthetic opioids by Mexican drug cartels to bring into the United States.
Do you know what precursor chemicals are, Stoke?
However, I agree that we should separate ourselves from Chinese dependence.
RalfLiebhold, I didn't know you were a certified doctor. Newspaper articles do not ban the use of Fentanyl in medicine.
Do you think the Washington Post is a tabloid newspaper? The press writes about daily mass deaths from Fentanyl.
Cause of death: Washington faltered as fentanyl gripped America
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2022/dea-fentanyl-failure/?itid=mc_magnet-opioids_inline_collection_2 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2022/dea-fentanyl-failure/?itid=mc_magnet-opioids_inline_collection_2)
Why is fentanyl so dangerous?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/03/fentanyl-opioid-epidemic/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/03/fentanyl-opioid-epidemic/)
And as you yourself wrote, China stopped cooperating to fight fentanyl smuggling. So China considers fentanyl as its weapon against the USA and not only.
and there are a lot of such articles in the Washington Post. I also read that there are thousands of laboratories in China that produce this fentanyl.
The newspapers write that fentanyl and its analogues are very strong drugs, deadly. It's easy to mix things up wrong and people die. And if they write that 99% of fentanyl is produced by China, and if this is true, then all the blame lies with China.
Not to mention that the coronavirus was created in China, after which a lot of people died in the US and the EU. Perhaps this is how China planned to use this virus, because totalitarian and fascist countries do not feel sorry for their people. Or maybe China planned to release the coronavirus in the US and the EU with less losses for China. But in fact, many people in the US and the EU were killed by the coronovirus and the economies of democratic countries suffered huge losses. And immediately after that, Russia began the active phase of the war. These are not coincidences! This is war.You do have your tin foil hat on, don't you? Otherwise the russians and chinese will crawl into your brain :)
The problem is not drug use. Problems in the huge mortality from drugs containing Fentanyl. You understand that drug cartels and drug dealers on the streets are not medical institutions that make certified drugs in laboratories.The newspapers write that fentanyl and its analogues are very strong drugs, deadly. It's easy to mix things up wrong and people die. And if they write that 99% of fentanyl is produced by China, and if this is true, then all the blame lies with China.
Counter question: If the U.S. succeeded in stopping all fentanyl imports, from China or wherever - would the drug problem then be solved?
And again and again and again: Fentanyl itself is not lethal, but the abuse is.
You should look into your own country, because is just an USA problem. Not a conspiracy. And should face the problem, not leaving them die on the streets. It's bizarre and a third world picture.You need to read those articles links to which I gave and similar articles. I nowhere write that Fentanyl for medical purposes is evil. This topic is about the drug mafia and China's use of Fentanyl as a weapon.
This kind of drugs in many cases are given because you can't stay at home when you are ill.
In Europe you can't get fentanyl or anything like that, just when you are dying with pain. It's impossible to become a heavy addict for using prescriptions.
You should look into your own country, because is just an USA problem. Not a conspiracy. And should face the problem, not leaving them die on the streets. It's bizarre and a third world picture.You need to read those articles links to which I gave and similar articles. I nowhere write that Fentanyl for medical purposes is evil. This topic is about the drug mafia and China's use of Fentanyl as a weapon.
This kind of drugs in many cases are given because you can't stay at home when you are ill.
In Europe you can't get fentanyl or anything like that, just when you are dying with pain. It's impossible to become a heavy addict for using prescriptions.
(https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.pmnq5npzhMq4ejXCi23MJQHaHa&pid=Api&P=0&h=180)WWIII has been going on for 10 years now. I know that you personally have not noticed it yet. Did you think that WWIII was just the use of nuclear weapons? You are greatly mistaken. Who copied such thoughts into your head at all?
Oh no, Stoker's on another conspiracy bender. ;D ::)
Stoke, you do realize that WWIII will not be about how many foot soldiers a country has, don't you?
And covid didn't kill off young, healthy people - and the number of deaths from Fentanyl is just a fraction of the total USA population, anyway.
Have you thought of writing scripts for horror or armageddon movies as a new pastime? ;) Just kidding, at least this is entertaining if somewhat frustrating to read.
Someone, finally explain to Annie from Australia that WWIII is not only and not necessarily the use of nuclear weapons.
:'( :'( :'(
My English is not enough.
(PS: I thought you would already know that its all about superior military intelligence, weaponry and a whole lot more. I didn't think I would have to spell it out to you.)Yes, I didn't understand what you wrote. English is not my native language.
This is what happens to a lot of your posts, or interpretations of what you read in newspaper articles.If you understood those articles that I cited here differently than I did, I am ready to read your opinion. Link to the article and write.
(PS: I thought you would already know that its all about superior military intelligence, weaponry and a whole lot more. I didn't think I would have to spell it out to you.)Yes, I didn't understand what you wrote. English is not my native language.
You wrote that the number of soldiers does not matter. This is not a correct statement.
Do you think that China has no intelligence, no satellites, no weapons? Do you have any idea what 1.5 billion people are? Yes, no weapons will help here :), even if these people are not armed at all.
;D
Annie, talk to your husband and father-in-law and they will tell you the same as I write. ;)
USA & NATO combined have the greatest military strength in the world today.Logically. If not for their ostrich policy, it would be generally cool.
Russia is not a threat. They have the most nukes - but most of them are 20 years old and probably more of a threat to themselves.Then let's get faster F16 fighters and long-range missiles to Ukraine. What are you afraid of?
Would China enter into a war with America? Their answer: Why? What would China have to gain? They (and Japan) already own most of USA debt (China owns $860 billion) anyway. Also China's economy is struggling with 25% unemployment and their youth unemployment is so bad they have stopped reporting it.It depends on what is considered a war. The history books have not yet written what I wrote on the last 2-3 pages.
Number of foot soldiers is not important as it was in the 20th century wars.It probably depends on how many soldiers and what weapons are used in the war. In the case of Ukraine, the number of soldiers matters.
America's greatest threat is coming from itself, its internal politics, inability of political parties to agree on anything, 'civil war' infighting, and debt is more of a risk than China.:-\
It's stupid.
Ukraine doesn't know how to use or repare them. Are not toys, hard to handle.
It's stupid.
Ukraine doesn't know how to use or repare them. Are not toys, hard to handle.
Worst leader in history of mankind.
This has to go viral. ;D
This has to go viral. ;D
Yes indeed.
The post had been viewed > 127,000 times, suggesting that around half of viewers responded with the laughing react.
.... plus one laughing react from you. :'(
Worst leader in history of mankind.
Yeah... it makes sense, especially when compared with other leaders in history of mankind, like stalin, hitler, pol pot, mao, ceauşescu, milošević, kim jong un, putin... ::)
Worst leader in history of mankind.
Yeah... it makes sense, especially when compared with other leaders in history of mankind, like stalin, hitler, pol pot, mao, ceauşescu, milošević, kim jong un, putin... ::)
Same league. Only their goals were criminal benefits for their own countries and he sold his own people for benefits of someone else. That makes him worst ;)
And you think giving Ukraine F16's will not escalate . out if it? Thank god that Denmark and Holland will take their time to do so. And hopefully peace negotations will already be on it's way before the actual delivery. Which is also the only sensible thing to do then to continue this war with it's losses it causes on both sides. Both are wrong. Coming to an agreement is really the only way.It's stupid.
Ukraine doesn't know how to use or repare them. Are not toys, hard to handle.
No. It's not. Not at all. It's the right thing to do.
A dedicated training center for Ukrainian pilots is being set up, as we speak, at the Borcea airforce base in Romania.
This type of training takes time. The F16s and the pilots will only be ready to defend Ukraine from the imperialist russian invasion from 2024 onwards.
By all accounts this is late, but better late than never.
Ukrainian F-16 pilots will be trained by the private company Draken International.
The company published a recruitment ad stating that the military instructors would work at the Borcea/Feteşti military base in Romania.
The company is also recruiting other categories of personnel for the pilot training center, including technicians, electricians, and other avionics specialists. Applicants must have at least five years of experience operating F-16 aircraft. Hired people will stay in Romania for three to 19 months.
Initially, training will consist of testing and selection of Ukrainian personnel, language lessons, and later theoretical and practical training will be conducted. The program aims for Ukrainian pilots to acquire basic skills in operating and maintaining F-16 aircraft
And you think giving Ukraine F16's will not escalate . out if it? Thank god that Denmark and Holland will take their time to do so. And hopefully peace negotations will already be on it's way before the actual delivery. Which is also the only sensible thing to do then to continue this war with it's losses it causes on both sides. Both are wrong. Coming to an agreement is really the only way.It's stupid.
Ukraine doesn't know how to use or repare them. Are not toys, hard to handle.
No. It's not. Not at all. It's the right thing to do.
A dedicated training center for Ukrainian pilots is being set up, as we speak, at the Borcea airforce base in Romania.
This type of training takes time. The F16s and the pilots will only be ready to defend Ukraine from the imperialist russian invasion from 2024 onwards.
By all accounts this is late, but better late than never.
Ukrainian F-16 pilots will be trained by the private company Draken International.
The company published a recruitment ad stating that the military instructors would work at the Borcea/Feteşti military base in Romania.
The company is also recruiting other categories of personnel for the pilot training center, including technicians, electricians, and other avionics specialists. Applicants must have at least five years of experience operating F-16 aircraft. Hired people will stay in Romania for three to 19 months.
Initially, training will consist of testing and selection of Ukrainian personnel, language lessons, and later theoretical and practical training will be conducted. The program aims for Ukrainian pilots to acquire basic skills in operating and maintaining F-16 aircraft
Yeah, yeah, yeah... it makes perfect sense!
He should rather sell his people to putin, indeed!
That will make him the best leader in history of mankind.
I know, I know.
And you think giving Ukraine F16's will not escalate . out if it? Thank god that Denmark and Holland will take their time to do so. And hopefully peace negotations will already be on it's way before the actual delivery. Which is also the only sensible thing to do then to continue this war with it's losses it causes on both sides. Both are wrong. Coming to an agreement is really the only way.It's stupid.
Ukraine doesn't know how to use or repare them. Are not toys, hard to handle.
No. It's not. Not at all. It's the right thing to do.
A dedicated training center for Ukrainian pilots is being set up, as we speak, at the Borcea airforce base in Romania.
This type of training takes time. The F16s and the pilots will only be ready to defend Ukraine from the imperialist russian invasion from 2024 onwards.
By all accounts this is late, but better late than never.
Ukrainian F-16 pilots will be trained by the private company Draken International.
The company published a recruitment ad stating that the military instructors would work at the Borcea/Feteşti military base in Romania.
The company is also recruiting other categories of personnel for the pilot training center, including technicians, electricians, and other avionics specialists. Applicants must have at least five years of experience operating F-16 aircraft. Hired people will stay in Romania for three to 19 months.
Initially, training will consist of testing and selection of Ukrainian personnel, language lessons, and later theoretical and practical training will be conducted. The program aims for Ukrainian pilots to acquire basic skills in operating and maintaining F-16 aircraft
Peace is straightforward: total russia withdrawal within its internationaly recognized borders.
Then compensations for the all the war crimes (for Sophia, above, inclusive) and destruction.This is what should be negotiated.
Peace only depends on putin's ego. It's 100% within his power to make peace.
And btw, an early NATO enforced no-fly zone above Ukraine would have prevented all this russian abomination from happening.
But Neville Chamberlain type of appeasers like Obama, Macron (and Schulz up to a certain point) had to learn the hard way that you can't appease the likes of putin. This type is only seeing goodwill as weakness and become even more emboldened, with their imperialistic ambitions.
Yeah, yeah, yeah... it makes perfect sense!
He should rather sell his people to putin, indeed!
That will make him the best leader in history of mankind.
I know, I know.
He should have just pretended he is Switzerland
There is no similarity in Hitler vs Putin (except for their egos maybe). There is no similarity between this war and WWII.
You still seem to forget. There is not one people in Ukraine, never was. There was a coup by one party and there was a civil war between two different thinking groups of people in one country. You want to give it all to one party (which you favour) and you are not considering at all the will of the other group.
It would be better if both groups got what they want and that is sovereignty. Where exactly to draw the line is something to negotiate on the peace table. We did it in Yougoslavia. Different people, all have their own country now. Same should apply here.
Every war ends with talks. No war has ever ended with everybody dead on one side. It's not appeasement, it is common sense and the logical thing to do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah... it makes perfect sense!
He should rather sell his people to putin, indeed!
That will make him the best leader in history of mankind.
I know, I know.
He should have just pretended he is Switzerland and stopped acting as a imperialists puppet. Now he destroyed all of his country and pulled his own people to misery for decades to come and the west showed him the middle finger to avoid any direct conflict with Russia.
He also lost nice part of the territory for good and there are way more chances he will loose more than to regain anything lost.
Now he even started to get signal that he should accept the territory loss directly from his NATO friends.
Everything else is fairy-tale which is melting day by day even in the words of western media and politicians which were pretending to support him most.
And you think giving Ukraine F16's will not escalate . out if it? Thank god that Denmark and Holland will take their time to do so. And hopefully peace negotations will already be on it's way before the actual delivery. Which is also the only sensible thing to do then to continue this war with it's losses it causes on both sides. Both are wrong. Coming to an agreement is really the only way.It's stupid.
Ukraine doesn't know how to use or repare them. Are not toys, hard to handle.
No. It's not. Not at all. It's the right thing to do.
A dedicated training center for Ukrainian pilots is being set up, as we speak, at the Borcea airforce base in Romania.
This type of training takes time. The F16s and the pilots will only be ready to defend Ukraine from the imperialist russian invasion from 2024 onwards.
By all accounts this is late, but better late than never.
Ukrainian F-16 pilots will be trained by the private company Draken International.
The company published a recruitment ad stating that the military instructors would work at the Borcea/Feteşti military base in Romania.
The company is also recruiting other categories of personnel for the pilot training center, including technicians, electricians, and other avionics specialists. Applicants must have at least five years of experience operating F-16 aircraft. Hired people will stay in Romania for three to 19 months.
Initially, training will consist of testing and selection of Ukrainian personnel, language lessons, and later theoretical and practical training will be conducted. The program aims for Ukrainian pilots to acquire basic skills in operating and maintaining F-16 aircraft
Peace is straightforward: total russia withdrawal within its internationaly recognized borders.
Then compensations for the all the war crimes (for Sophia, above, inclusive) and destruction.This is what should be negotiated.
Peace only depends on putin's ego. It's 100% within his power to make peace.
And btw, an early NATO enforced no-fly zone above Ukraine would have prevented all this russian abomination from happening.
But Neville Chamberlain type of appeasers like Obama, Macron (and Schulz up to a certain point) had to learn the hard way that you can't appease the likes of putin. This type is only seeing goodwill as weakness and become even more emboldened, with their imperialistic ambitions.
There is no similarity in Hitler vs Putin (except for their egos maybe). There is no similarity between this war and WWII.
You still seem to forget. There is not one people in Ukraine, never was. There was a coup by one party and there was a civil war between two different thinking groups of people in one country. You want to give it all to one party (which you favour) and you are not considering at all the will of the other group.
It would be better if both groups got what they want and that is sovereignty. Where exactly to draw the line is something to negotiate on the peace table. We did it in Yougoslavia. Different people, all have their own country now. Same should apply here.
Every war ends with talks. No war has ever ended with everybody dead on one side. It's not appeasement, it is common sense and the logical thing to do.
There is a crucial difference. No neighbor of Switzerland, no Italian, no French, no German and no Austrian, steals Swiss children to bring them to their own country. And no Swiss neighbor claims that the Swiss are *. No Italian neighbor claims that Switzerland once belonged to the former Roman Empire and thus to Italy. No neighbor imposes its culture, language or cultural identity on Switzerland. And above all: no neighbor interferes in Switzerland's decisions about which alliance Switzerland should join - be it military, be it economic or whatever.
Heeding your "advice" would have achieved nothing. Putin wants Russia to be the size of the former tsarist empire. No matter how Ukraine would have behaved.
And if your way of thinking were to be believed, then the states of Eastern Europe, then Central Europe and then Western Europe would be next on Putin's agenda. Because he lacks the buffer to NATO. Until now, that buffer has been Ukraine. If it became Russian, he would be even closer to NATO and would have to create a buffer again. And so on...
I wrote a letter to the stock agencies, told them to ban all Russian and Belarusian authors who do not have refugee status. Stock agency administration is generally not against such actions, but is still thinking about it. If they receive many such letters, it is possible to achieve a ban on the Russians and stop the flow of foreign currency to fascist russia and belarus. Write to stock agencies, demand a ban on Russians!According to the presidential decree (08.08.2023 № 585), Russia stops the agreement to avoid double coverage with unfriendly countries. Accordingly, stockers who paid only 6% to the local budget will now pay an additional 30% to the US budget.
ordinary peopleWhose Crimea?
Whose Crimea?Do you have a special button on your keyboard with this phrase or is it in your head? Move to live in the Crimea and it will be yours. Just like now it belongs to its inhabitants.
Yes, that's exactly what Russian rashists and Naz.is do. Russians come in tanks to the territory of Ukraine and say that the Ukrainian land is russia. Go on, write more.Whose Crimea?Do you have a special button on your keyboard with this phrase or is it in your head? Move to live in the Crimea and it will be yours. Just like now it belongs to its inhabitants.
Yes, that's exactly what Russian rashists and Naz.is do. Russians come in tanks to the territory of Ukraine and say that the Ukrainian land is russia. Go on, write more.Whose Crimea?Do you have a special button on your keyboard with this phrase or is it in your head? Move to live in the Crimea and it will be yours. Just like now it belongs to its inhabitants.
You are not an ordinary peaceful person, you are a rashist, which is equal to a Nazi. And this follows from your answer to the question posed to you. That is why the US and EU countries have applied sanctions to people like you. And you're like a worm trying to slip away. But there are many such Russian worms, 250 thousand like you are already fertilizing the Ukrainian land.
There is a crucial difference. No neighbor of Switzerland, no Italian, no French, no German and no Austrian, steals Swiss children to bring them to their own country. And no Swiss neighbor claims that the Swiss are *. No Italian neighbor claims that Switzerland once belonged to the former Roman Empire and thus to Italy. No neighbor imposes its culture, language or cultural identity on Switzerland. And above all: no neighbor interferes in Switzerland's decisions about which alliance Switzerland should join - be it military, be it economic or whatever.
Heeding your "advice" would have achieved nothing. Putin wants Russia to be the size of the former tsarist empire. No matter how Ukraine would have behaved.
And if your way of thinking were to be believed, then the states of Eastern Europe, then Central Europe and then Western Europe would be next on Putin's agenda. Because he lacks the buffer to NATO. Until now, that buffer has been Ukraine. If it became Russian, he would be even closer to NATO and would have to create a buffer again. And so on...
Lets start with the end...and that's pure populism. Russia doesn't have offensive military strength, nor resources nor nearly enough personnel to even think to invade anyone cause Putin would end up like Hitler. Secondly during his career most of that Europe was not in NATO and there wasn't slightest chance of that scenario. And third, planning to bring nuclear weapons and building military bases under direct US control pointing at Russia directly on her borders is a huge factor and don't pretend you don't see this is not a main reason for what is happening. At the end, you are writing like Putin had an agenda of occupying whole Europe. He said multiple times don't spread NATO to their borders and anyone with his power would do the same starting from US if he made an alliance with Mexico lets say and planned to put his missiles there, you would have a war. As simple as that.
Zielinski is no less of a puppet than Yanukovych and he knew exactly the risks he is taking and he didn't give a f..k about his people and his country benefits, he also played with fire by allowing what was happening to Russian minority in his country ( which if btw. Swiss people would start to do to German, Italian or French minorities that would end up with some neighbor problems for sure)
And back to the beginning, Italia, Gemany, France or Austria don't have their neighbors missiles pointed at them despite the facts that they invaded every single country around them and some of them not so long ago. Not to even mention that some of them have pretty strong political currents that are openly promoting revision of historical maps and have pretty strong pretensions on foreign territories with influence of ideas of a guy with little square mustaches.
Back on Zielinski, he knew pretty well that the geographic position of his country requires a bit more wisdom than if he was on the other side of Europe, and Im also pretty sure he was not stupid, he knew exacly what could happen and he didn't care about his people but about being a loyal servant of masters that are throwing him crumbs at the moment but he can not say it to loud because they shut him up sooo quickly.
The first low signal he got from NATO recently to think about giving up parts of his territory speaks enough. The fact that Jenssen apologized, said it was a mistake but that even so he wouldn't rule out the idea so quickly, clearly speaks about whats going on behind the closed doors. If someone thinks something like that is a mistake coming from that level where everything is checked 100 times before it hits the public, well that one deserves a golden squirrel naivety reward.
I'm already waiting for your ostrich picture or some nastiness against Germany.;D ;D ;D
I don't know how old your history books are and to what extent your remarks are Russian colored.
Worst leader in history of mankind.
Yeah... it makes sense, especially when compared with other leaders in history of mankind, like stalin, hitler, pol pot, mao, ceauşescu, milošević, kim jong un, putin... ::)
EE UU supo de planes ucranios para volar los gasoductos Nord Stream, según ‘The Washington Post’
The US learned of Ukrainian plans to blow up the Nord Stream gas pipelines, according to 'The Washington Post'
Nah, Trump is only a moron and a petty criminal.Worst leader in history of mankind.
Yeah... it makes sense, especially when compared with other leaders in history of mankind, like stalin, hitler, pol pot, mao, ceauşescu, milošević, kim jong un, putin... ::)
Even worst than Trump?
News of the day+100
Reuters: Russian mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin has died in plane crash.
News of the dayI am sure that this is the work of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. 8) 8) 8)
Reuters: Russian mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin has died in plane crash.
News of the dayI am sure that this is the work of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. 8) 8) 8)
Reuters: Russian mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin has died in plane crash.
Nah... He rather fell, accidentally as usual, but from a much higher balcony!
I think that we should wait and see whether Prigozhin was really on the plane.Rashists already confirm his liquidation. Who was actually there on the plane is not known, it is impossible to believe what the Russians say. But one thing can be said, the media will no longer show either prigozhin or utkin.
Maybe he just wants to disappear in order not to be eliminated by Putin.
Yes, the sanctions against russia are workingIn the first six months of this year, the United States increased the purchase of uranium from Russia by 2.2 times - up to 416 tons of uranium from 188 tons.
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Yes, the sanctions are working. But they hit harder, not on Russia, but on Europe.
Peaceful cooperation with Russia has always been more beneficial. I really hope that someday this nightmare will end, and we will return to mutually beneficial economic and cultural cooperation.
Calls for return peace from the Russian state media and government at this time are sadly just propaganda and calls for Ukraine to surrender.+100
you don't have to be an ethno nationalist to want to protect your home and way of life.Exactly.
Some people here on the forum tell me that I do not talk politely with rashists and Russian trolls.You do know that nobody believes those numbers except for you and the propoganda machine of Ukraine. It is propoganda and not facts. The actual numbers are way lower but higher then russian propoganda brings it. Get some grip on reality here.
Look at the image, this is how you need to talk with Russians, and this is the only language they understand.
To date, Russian losses have amounted to more than 260 thousand people.
Pope Francis is a Rashist and supports Russians?
"The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine reacted to the words of Pope Francis, who said that the Russians are the heirs of a "great" state, and mentioned Peter I, Catherine II and others in this context.
From the lips of the Pope, "imperialist propaganda" was sounded, with which the Russian Federation justifies its aggression against Ukraine.
The Pope addressed the participants of the X All-Russian Day of Catholic Youth in St. Petersburg on August 25.
In his speech, he said: "Never forget about the heritage. You are the heirs of great Russia: the great Russia of saints, rulers, the great Russia of Peter I, Catherine II, that empire - great, enlightened, [a country] of great culture and great humanity. Never don't give up this legacy, you are the heirs of the great Mother Russia, go ahead with it. And thank you. Thank you for your way of being, for your way of being Russians."
Foreign Ministry spokesman Oleg Nikolenko stressed that the Kremlin justifies the murders of thousands of Ukrainians and the destruction of hundreds of Ukrainian cities and villages with such imperialist propaganda, "spiritual bonds" and "need" to save the "great Mother Russia".
"It is very unfortunate that Russian great-power ideas, which, in fact, are the cause of Russia's chronic aggressiveness, consciously or unconsciously, come from the lips of the Pope, whose mission, in our understanding, is precisely to open the eyes of Russian youth to the destructive course of the current Russian leadership," Nikolenko said.
It is noteworthy that the information portal of the Holy See, Vatican News, posted the text of the Pope's address on its website, but this passage is missing from it. At the same time, the network has a video excerpt of the Pope's address with this quote."
Some people here on the forum tell me that I do not talk politely with rashists and Russian trolls.You do know that nobody believes those numbers except for you and the propoganda machine of Ukraine. It is propoganda and not facts. The actual numbers are way lower but higher then russian propoganda brings it. Get some grip on reality here.
Look at the image, this is how you need to talk with Russians, and this is the only language they understand.
To date, Russian losses have amounted to more than 260 thousand people.
So, the statements of Pope Francis indicate that the Catholic Church supports the Russian Naz.is. This is a serious blow to democracy around the world.
I don't see Catholic protests against such a Pope.
Yes, the sanctions against russia are workingFinancial Times:
Yes, the sanctions against russia are workingFinancial Times:
"The EU is set to import record volumes of liquefied natural gas from Russia this year."
"EU imports of the super-chilled gas were up 40 per cent between January and July this year compared with the same period in 2021, before Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine."
https://www.ft.com/content/1e70ff72-52d8-46b6-a8f4-fcc86fb88a6d (https://www.ft.com/content/1e70ff72-52d8-46b6-a8f4-fcc86fb88a6d)
It turns out that the explosion of the Nord Stream is, to a greater extent, a blow not against Russia, but against Germany, which previously received cheap pipeline gas? Who benefited from the weakening of such industrial competitor as Germany?
Long term renewable resources and possibly nuclear are the only solution.I don't have much confidence in renewable resources. Most of them are not environmentally friendly. For example, wind turbines in the US alone kill over half a million birds every year.
I’m glad there is a free press in the West able to report these things, criticise and apply pressure for change. I hope it is a wake up call to stop relying on oppressive regimes in future (like, Russia, Saudi etc.) as it gives them way too much power. Long term renewable resources and possibly nuclear are the only solution.+100
UK is one of the countries with most wind turbines:Long term renewable resources and possibly nuclear are the only solution.I don't have much confidence in renewable resources. Most of them are not environmentally friendly. For example, wind turbines in the US alone kill over half a million birds every year.
The future belongs to nuclear and thermonuclear energy.
I imagine living in Russia where fossil fuels are so critical to the economy you are also bombarded with the same kinds of propaganda 24/7.+100
The only reason it hits the headiness in the West is because of funding by gas and oil industry and various lobbyists/ think-tanks. I imagine living in Russia where fossil fuels are so critical to the economy you are also bombarded with the same kinds of propaganda 24/7.In fact, this is not quite so. I am an ecologist, I myself took part in the examination of environmental disasters. But I do not see much propaganda in Russia for the use of fossil fuel sources. This is because there is no point in such propaganda and the Russian energy system is unified. The degree of development of various energy sectors does not depend on ordinary people. We have enough other propaganda, as in any other country)).
In fact, this is not quite so. I am an ecologist, I myself took part in the examination of environmental disasters. But I do not see much propaganda in Russia for the use of fossil fuel sources. This is because there is no point in such propaganda and the Russian energy system is unified. The degree of development of various energy sectors does not depend on ordinary people. We have enough other propaganda, as in any other country)).
In general, gas-fired power plants prevail in Russia (about 50%). Nuclear power plants (about 16%) and hydro generation (about 18%) make up a significant part. Coal accounts for about 15%. The share of electricity produced from oil and renewable sources is very small. But many people associate the future of Russian energy primarily with the development of nuclear and thermonuclear energy. There are plans for hydrogen energy on a worldwide scale.
Interesting, thanks. We have some papers that run propaganda for the fossil fuel industry daily. Constantly running with misleading/ discredited or cherry picked stats or even going as far as paying "academics" for hire that don't even work in the a related field to say in their opinion climate change is overblown or doesn't exist, or that various replacement tech doesn’t work. It’s gross.I will add about the Russians. Russian trolls spread propaganda in the EU and the US against green energy. The goal of the Russians is to sell a lot of gas and oil for dollars and euros. Therefore, they will tell about the perishing birds from the blades of windmills and other similar nonsense. But at the same time, they will talk about how good and profitable it is to buy gas, oil and nuclear fuel from putin; and how well the Russians build nuclear power plants.
EDIT: I was interested to look into this further. As implied by the "low base" phrase, total Gas imports from Russia (LGN plus pipeline) have have plummeted (slightly older but to get an idea https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-gas-supply/ (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-gas-supply/) or https://www.statista.com/statistics/1331770/eu-gas-imports-from-russia-by-route/ (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1331770/eu-gas-imports-from-russia-by-route/)) but LGN makes up a larger percentage of that much lower amount.Yes, sanctions against russia are working and producing results. Although slowly, but the gas_station-country called russia is thrown out of the civilized market and civilized relations.
the gas_station-country called russiaCorrection: "Gas station run by a mafia masquerading as a country."
Correction: Legitimate mafia, which is supported by 80-95% of the population. And if you speak in a language understandable to Russian serfs, then this is not a mafia, but a tsar and boyars. ;Dthe gas_station-country called russiaCorrection: "Gas station run by a mafia masquerading as a country."
Long term renewable resources and possibly nuclear are the only solution.I don't have much confidence in renewable resources. Most of them are not environmentally friendly. For example, wind turbines in the US alone kill over half a million birds every year.
The future belongs to nuclear and thermonuclear energy.
Long term renewable resources and possibly nuclear are the only solution.I don't have much confidence in renewable resources. Most of them are not environmentally friendly. For example, wind turbines in the US alone kill over half a million birds every year.
The future belongs to nuclear and thermonuclear energy.
Could you please publish the numbers of animals that died only because of the Chernobyl reactor disaster (not only birds are meant)? Or the number of birds that die due to the thawing of permafrost soils. Or by exhaust gases from fossil fuels.
You can't find any numbers or studies on this? Funny! Have you ever asked yourself why this is so? Why there are such numbers only for wind turbines?
Is nuclear power a zero-emissions energy source?Yes. Any energy production is accompanied by thermal and other pollution of the planet. Therefore, in order to reduce the negative effect, technologies are being developed for a closed nuclear fuel cycle that provides access to 99% of the energy of uranium. With this technology, waste from the nuclear industry is used as fuel. https://globalenergyprize.org/en/2022/05/18/georgy-tikhomirov-a-closed-nuclear-fuel-cycle-opens-up-access-to-99-percent-of-uraniums-energy/ (https://globalenergyprize.org/en/2022/05/18/georgy-tikhomirov-a-closed-nuclear-fuel-cycle-opens-up-access-to-99-percent-of-uraniums-energy/)
"No. Nuclear energy is also responsible for greenhouse gas emissions. In fact, no energy source is completely free of emissions, but more on that later.
When it comes to nuclear, uranium extraction, transport and processing produces emissions. The long and complex construction process of nuclear power plants also releases CO2, as does the demolition of decommissioned sites. And, last but not least, nuclear waste also has to be transported and stored under strict conditions — here, too, emissions must be taken into account.
Power plants depend on nearby water sources to cool their reactors, and with many rivers drying up, those sources of water are no longer guaranteed."Nuclear desalination. Desalination of salt water using nuclear power can help solve problems with a lack of fresh water. In the arid regions of the USSR, this technology has been used since the early 1970s. (For example, the nuclear desalination plant at the Shevchenko NPP, which operated the world's first industrial fast neutron reactor). Such technologies can be a way out to solve the lack of fresh water on a global scale.
(and yes, Australia is still producing coal - something I am very shameful to admit. But we (the voters) are trying. We voted out the last government - but the new one is so far no better. The politics are disgusting and we are running out of time.)I looked at the statistics. Really. Coal-fired power plants in Australia accounted for about 54% of electricity generation in 2020. For comparison: in India in 2020 - 71%, in China 57%, in the USA 19%, in Russia - 16%.
(and yes, Australia is still producing coal - something I am very shameful to admit. But we (the voters) are trying. We voted out the last government - but the new one is so far no better. The politics are disgusting and we are running out of time.)I looked at the statistics. Really. Coal-fired power plants in Australia accounted for about 54% of electricity generation in 2020. For comparison: in India in 2020 - 71%, in China 57%, in the USA 19%, in Russia - 16%.
;DLong term renewable resources and possibly nuclear are the only solution.I don't have much confidence in renewable resources. Most of them are not environmentally friendly. For example, wind turbines in the US alone kill over half a million birds every year.
The future belongs to nuclear and thermonuclear energy.
Could you please publish the numbers of animals that died only because of the Chernobyl reactor disaster (not only birds are meant)? Or the number of birds that die due to the thawing of permafrost soils. Or by exhaust gases from fossil fuels.
You can't find any numbers or studies on this? Funny! Have you ever asked yourself why this is so? Why there are such numbers only for wind turbines?
(and yes, Australia is still producing coal - something I am very shameful to admit. But we (the voters) are trying. We voted out the last government - but the new one is so far no better. The politics are disgusting and we are running out of time.)Don't worry about it. It is very good that Australia mines coal. Poland and Germany also mine it. Now there is a third world war, and there will not always be enough gas and green energy. Coal is a good alternative.
I think it is all a more general sign of countering the threats from Russia to Europe (rather than about Nuclear war more specifically).I agree. We'll see how it goes. ;D
Yes, the sanctions against russia are workingBerliner Zeitung: "The latest statistics are surprising: in the middle of the Ukraine war, Russia is exporting 334 percent more cheaper fertilizers to Germany. Like gas, just different?"
Yes, there are! But I believe that the real power lies within the individuals, the voters, and that we are the ones who collectively will make a difference. But that means becoming independent thinkers.This is a very strange philosophy during the war. And this philosophy will not save from evil.
My background is that I embraced Buddhism when I was much younger. But I am often not a very good Buddhist. I get angry, I take sides, my ego starts to take over, and I get embroiled in people's dramas. But when I see that happening, I leave the groups and disappear for a while, increase my meditation practice, and loose myself in my creative pursuits. That's why you often see me delete my posts that are not kind or too controversial or disappear from here for a while when I feel I am becoming too involved.
I am not saying that everyone should become a Buddhist (LOL) but its my way of becoming independent again. I also believe that education is important. My ex-father-in-law was an English teacher and he used to say: education, real education, doesn't give you the answers - it teaches you the questions to ask.
I have a lot of respect for you too, Wilm. I find you to be a highly educated and very understanding man and I love reading your posts - and I am sure you know all of this too.
I wrote a lot in the beginning of this thread about not labelling people, not taking sides, and understanding what is REALLY going on in the world. I believe that makes us more and more impervious to being manipulated by greedy or power hungry politicians and leaders.
Naz.is should be called Naz.is, Russians should be called rashists and orcs. Enemies must be eliminated. Everything is very simple.
I didn't see this before, but I would like to reply.
The Dalai Lama has had direct experience with this when China annexed Tibet when he was a young man, and the Buddhists had to flee the country and settled in India, which by the way was largely responsible for bringing the teachings of Buddhism to the western world. Prior to that, it was mainly isolated to Tibet. So I wanted to see what he said about war.
Just briefly, he has said different things at different times, depending on different circumstances, whether to flee/walk away or whether to defend. But the bottom line in whatever you choose, is hatred.
In Buddhism, it is the level of hate you have for offenders that you have to let go of. Hatred is the most destruction of emotions, and it will never repair what you have lost or provide the right solutions.
Also remember Gandhi brought down the powerful British empire through peaceful resistance. This may be a different situation, but there are lessons to be learnt from it: ‘If this Empire seems an evil thing to me, it is not because I hate the British, I hate only the Empire.’
For me personally, I believe its politics and megalomaniacs who cause wars, and they should be the targets (to fix or eliminate, often through the dissemination of truth to the people. The people have so much power.) but not to hate a whole country just because they were manipulated into believing what these leaders told them.
But can you defend your country through love for your country and not hate the other side? That is the difficult part - but something we should all aim for.
It is also worth noting that Gandhi wasn't a universal pacifist. The situation with the British Empire was a unique one.
The British were ruling via what has been dubbed Liberal Imperialism. Gandhi was a very intelligent man and saw that contradiction was something he could leverage. The pacifism laid bare the lie of the British that they were paternal benevolent rulers and forced the British to expose the violence which they ruled by in contrast.
I heard a historian discussing Gandhi's letters to people who had asked him for help with their own struggles, and he actually had recommended violent resistance or self-defence in some circumstances.
I believe it was in that interview, and several times subsequently, that I have heard the Indian struggle for independence contrasted very specifically with Russia. To the effect that in Russia the Indians nonviolently protesting would simply have been murdered to the last man. Jallianwala Bagh led to all kinds of hand ringing and an enquiry. Russia levelled Chechnya and is levelling Ukraine without the Russian state batting an eye. When it comes to the effectiveness of pacifism, Russia is the most frequent textbook counter example to India.
The British were trying to appear like a civilising force, Russia has been recruiting from prisons by saying "we particularly want mass murders, we can use your talents in Ukraine".
EDIT: Rereading my post it could sound like I am saying the British were somehow less bad. The British empire was mind bogglingly brutal and it's legacy isn't over. The full extent of the horrors will probably never be known as they were also very thorough in covering it up both at the time and during the collapse. It ran one of the biggest propaganda machines in history. Highly recommend Caroline Elkins' recent work. I am just pointing out that the empire's unique contradictions made pacifism the ideal tool.
True, but not the point I was hoping to 'inspire' (for want of a better word) Stoker. (If that's at all possible :) ) As I said, it [Ukraine/Russia] may be a different situation, but the underlying attitude can be the same. That is, it's not the people of that country, its the 'empire', that he should hate, if he needs to hate anything.
‘If this Empire seems an evil thing to me, it is not because I hate the British, I hate only the Empire.’
In Buddhism, it is the level of hate you have for offenders that you have to let go of. Hatred is the most destruction of emotions, and it will never repair what you have lost or provide the right solutions.
Also remember Gandhi brought down the powerful British empire through peaceful resistance. This may be a different situation, but there are lessons to be learnt from it: ‘If this Empire seems an evil thing to me, it is not because I hate the British, I hate only the Empire.’:o :o :o ::) ::) ::) :'( :'( :'(
but not to hate a whole country just because they were manipulated into believing what these leaders told them.:o :o :o
But can you defend your country through love for your country and not hate the other side? That is the difficult part - but something we should all aim for.Remember World War II. The Naz.is were not loved, they were killed.
‘If this Empire seems an evil thing to me, it is not because I hate the British, I hate only the Empire.’And there is also no need to try to compare Russians with German *. Unlike the Russians, the Germans were educated and did not seek to destroy everything and kill everyone. The Russian Empire is a bunch of uneducated and evil orcs of Asian origin.
+100True, but not the point I was hoping to 'inspire' (for want of a better word) Stoker. (If that's at all possible :) ) As I said, it [Ukraine/Russia] may be a different situation, but the underlying attitude can be the same. That is, it's not the people of that country, its the 'empire', that he should hate, if he needs to hate anything.
‘If this Empire seems an evil thing to me, it is not because I hate the British, I hate only the Empire.’
I get it. My point is that if pacifism wasn’t the solution to his particular problem he may have said something different. His words were morally correct in that they were for the right cause, and pragmatic in that they were the best way to defeat the particular enemy.
The Russian Empire is a bunch of uneducated and evil orcs of Asian origin.
You need to watch horror films about zombies, all you will see is the truth, the truth about Russians.
Annie needs to come to Ukraine, to the line of fire. Very quickly Annie will forget what Buddhism is.
Alexei Navalny is a rashist.The Russian Empire is a bunch of uneducated and evil orcs of Asian origin.
You need to watch horror films about zombies, all you will see is the truth, the truth about Russians.
What do you think of Alexei Navalny, Stoke?
(PS. Its not a trick question, I am just interested.)
I know that in 1050 Moscow was a forest when Kyiv was among the largest European cities, with over 40k inhabitants.
You already mentioned it yourself on multiple occations.
Just pay attention to what I wrote. This not propaganda, but science.
I specifically said that russian and Ukrainians are NOT the same people.
The map above is cropped, but on Eupedia.com you can find wider maps for each haplogroup.
Below is the Finno-Uralic/Siberian haplogroup, present in russians, but not that much in Ukrainians.
Check also the spread of all slavic haplogroups combined.
Both Ukrainians and russian have slavic components in their genome, but the Poles have the most. ;)
I also said that Ukrainins have a significant amount of Mediterranean greco-roman ancestry, while russians have less.
Maybe you can better understand that while most modern nations have their specific mix, they also have A LOT in common, especially first tier neighbors. This is only normal because of migration and intermarriage throughout history.
No nation is "pure" anything.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/maps_Y-DNA_haplogroups.shtml (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/maps_Y-DNA_haplogroups.shtml)
PS. Also note that these maps are correctly showing Crimea as part of Ukraine. ;)
Very interesting website which I didn't know so far. Thanks a lot for this information, Zero!
Zero Talent, if we are talking about the nationality and race of Russians, then we need to decide who these Russians are and where they live. This is what I wrote about. Russia is an empire and Russians by nationality are only a part of this empire. Therefore, I think that in your original map, the nationality of the Russians and the percentage of other nationalities in it was not determined correctly. Most of russia is inhabited by Asians, who are unlikely to have Slavic blood in their blood. In the territories previously owned by Kyivan Rus', there will be more people in whose blood there is more of the Slavic race. But on the territory of the former Moscovia, mostly Russians by nationality lived and live. And only on the territory of Moscovia you need to look at what genes are in the blood of those people (these will be Russians by nationality).
If you can use these maps to determine what is there by genes in the territory of the former Moscovia, publish the results.
What the first map is shows is an average for each modern nation.+100
What the first map is shows is an average for each modern nation.+100
Therefore, I say that in order to analyze the Russian empire and determine precisely Russians by nationality, it is necessary to analyze not all the occupied peoples, but only those people who live on the territory of the former Moscovia. But this card will not allow you to do this, because. this map thinks that many Slavs live on the territory of Moscovia. Science is good, but when it comes to russia, Russian propaganda is involved, and scientists give wrong results. Do you believe Russians? Who made this map? Who gave data on the regions of russia?
There cannot be much Slavic blood in the blood of Russians. If the maps do not show this, then the Russians falsified them.
Of course, there is Slavic blood in Russians by nationality, but there is not much of it. This blood was given to them by those Ukrainians who were evicted to the territory of Moscovia from Kyivan Rus'.There cannot be much Slavic blood in the blood of Russians. If the maps do not show this, then the Russians falsified them.
Actually there is slavic blood in russians. Less than in Poles, but there is.
These maps are not made by russians.
They are using ancestry data collected by American companies (like 23andme). Check the references on eupedia.com.
There are many reputable studies, with credibility beyond any doubt.
Of course, there is Slavic blood in Russians by nationality, but there is not much of it. This blood was given to them by those Ukrainians who were evicted to the territory of Moscovia from Kyivan Rus'.There cannot be much Slavic blood in the blood of Russians. If the maps do not show this, then the Russians falsified them.
Actually there is slavic blood in russians. Less than in Poles, but there is.
These maps are not made by russians.
They are using ancestry data collected by American companies (like 23andme). Check the references on eupedia.com.
There are many reputable studies, with credibility beyond any doubt.
You understand that any data from russia could only be obtained through official means. Do you think the KGB gave the US reliable information? Do not make me laugh.
1. The KGB selected the right people for analysis.Of course, there is Slavic blood in Russians by nationality, but there is not much of it. This blood was given to them by those Ukrainians who were evicted to the territory of Moscovia from Kyivan Rus'.There cannot be much Slavic blood in the blood of Russians. If the maps do not show this, then the Russians falsified them.
Actually there is slavic blood in russians. Less than in Poles, but there is.
These maps are not made by russians.
They are using ancestry data collected by American companies (like 23andme). Check the references on eupedia.com.
There are many reputable studies, with credibility beyond any doubt.
You understand that any data from russia could only be obtained through official means. Do you think the KGB gave the US reliable information? Do not make me laugh.
Did you ever take a genetic test? I did.
You spit in a vial and then send the vial for analysis, done in a lab belonging to the American company.
So the KGB replaced the russian vials with Ukranian spit, to fool the world scientists? Don't make ME laugh!
I suggest you take genetic test to see it for yourself. You will be surprised!: ;)
1. The KGB selected the right people for analysis.
2. These people were originally tested for the composition of their blood.
Or do you want to say that American scientists walked around the territory of the former Moscovia and random people spat into the vial?
3. Many Ukrainians and mestizos (a mixture of Russian and Ukrainian blood) live on the territory of the Russian empire, and there are millions of them. It is not difficult for the KGB to choose the right people.
4. The KGB does a lot of things that we don't know about here.
As for Ukraine, I have no objections. I see that the Ukrainians are Slavs, there is not only yellow refers to the Slavs.
You don't read me well. The Russians didn't mix anything. They initially chose the right people for analysis.
1. The KGB selected the right people for analysis.
2. These people were originally tested for the composition of their blood.
Or do you want to say that American scientists walked around the territory of the former Moscovia and random people spat into the vial?
3. Many Ukrainians and mestizos (a mixture of Russian and Ukrainian blood) live on the territory of the Russian empire, and there are millions of them. It is not difficult for the KGB to choose the right people.
4. The KGB does a lot of things that we don't know about here.
As for Ukraine, I have no objections. I see that the Ukrainians are Slavs, there is not only yellow refers to the Slavs.
Again. It's not a blood test, but a spit test.
So, the KGB hijacked the vials and mixed in the spit from Ukrainians with spit from Finnish people, right?
And the lab was unable to detect the fraud and the outliers, despite all their modern chromosome analysis tools, right?
Comon man!
::)
Just do your own test and report back.
Yellow combines ALL slavic ancestries.
As for Ukraine, I have no objections. I see that the Ukrainians are Slavs, there is not only yellow refers to the Slavs.
Very interesting website which I didn't know so far. Thanks a lot for this information, Zero!
You're welcome. Please take note that the Swedes and the Norwegians are more germanic that the Germans! 🙂
Very interesting website which I didn't know so far. Thanks a lot for this information, Zero!
You're welcome. Please take note that the Swedes and the Norwegians are more germanic that the Germans! 🙂
I'm happy to take note, but it's nothing new to me and it doesn't bother me.
Bottom line, no nation is "pure".Nationality is determined by the predominant blood. No one says that there are nations in the blood of which only pure blood. It was only the Naz.is who promoted this.
russkiy mirThis is not a myth, but a political imperial doctrine. It has nothing to do with blood and nationality. More details here.
Very interesting website which I didn't know so far. Thanks a lot for this information, Zero!
You're welcome. Please take note that the Swedes and the Norwegians are more germanic that the Germans! 🙂
I'm happy to take note, but it's nothing new to me and it doesn't bother me.
Wilm, I never expected it would bother you. It's just a fun fact.
Bottom line, no nation is "pure".Nationality is determined by the predominant blood. No one says that there are nations in the blood of which only pure blood. It was only the Naz.is who promoted this.
Most of Western Europe has predominantly Celtic "blood", and yet neither the French, nor the Spanish, nor the Portuguese consider themselves Celts.If the French, Spaniards and Portuguese look different, then they have a different ethnicity. DNA analysis will show this.
Zero Talent, nation and ethnicity are two different things. Determining ethnicity from a passport is nonsense. DNA analysis can determine what ethnicity a person is. If your maps do not show this, then you need to look for other sources.
This is in scientific terms. And if you approach the issue from the point of view of law, citizenship in your passport refers you to a German or a French.
Too bad they tell you a different story than the one you grew up with!I disagree with this statement.
What actually surprised me was the fact that you can become president in the U.S. despite having a criminal record.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.htmlAgain, fake after fake and you broadcast them all here.
Elon Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his company’s Starlink satellite communications network near the Crimean coast last year to disrupt a Ukrainian sneak attack on the Russian naval fleet, according to an excerpt adapted from Walter Isaacson’s new biography of the eccentric billionaire titled “Elon Musk.”
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.htmlAgain, fake after fake and you broadcast them all here.
Elon Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his company’s Starlink satellite communications network near the Crimean coast last year to disrupt a Ukrainian sneak attack on the Russian naval fleet, according to an excerpt adapted from Walter Isaacson’s new biography of the eccentric billionaire titled “Elon Musk.”
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Maybe it’s better to read Elon Musk himself?
"There was an emergency request from government authorities to activate Starlink all the way to Sevastopol.
The obvious intent being to sink most of the Russian fleet at anchor.
If I had agreed to their request, then SpaceX would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation."
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1699917639043404146
...Given his track record this is the worst idea of all if you want the truth.
Maybe it’s better to read Elon Musk himself?...
Which part is fake?How can you turn off something that was not turned on? Of course this is another fake!
Okay, got ya, I understand the disagreement now. They were asking for it to be extended, which Musk refused to do, rather than actively turning it off. It still prevented the attack, but I can see it is different.Which part is fake?How can you turn off something that was not turned on? Of course this is another fake!
Take a look at the Starlink network coverage map:
(https://i.postimg.cc/xd3CW8Xj/Starlink.jpg)
I understand the disagreement now. They were asking for it to be extended, which Musk refused to do, rather than actively turning it off. It still prevented the attack, but I can see it is different."Elon Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his company’s Starlink satellite communications network near the Crimean coast"
Okay, got ya, I understand the disagreement now. They were asking for it to be extended, which Musk refused to do, rather than actively turning it off. It still prevented the attack, but I can see it is different.Which part is fake?How can you turn off something that was not turned on? Of course this is another fake!
Take a look at the Starlink network coverage map:
(https://i.postimg.cc/xd3CW8Xj/Starlink.jpg)
Zero Talent, ::) ::)
better start with the fact that Musk is a Trump fan.
I believe in the Republican Party. As I already wrote, Trump is just a clown who brings the Republicans to power.Zero Talent, ::) ::)
better start with the fact that Musk is a Trump fan.
Good to see that you finally realized how dangerous trump is for Ukraine's future. ;)
Elon Musk is a friend of the Russians and the Russian empire. He also works for putin.
Elon Musk: "I’ve donated $100M to Ukraine, how much have you donated?"Again, trusting Elon Musk about anything is a bad mistake.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1650008972865224704Elon Musk is a friend of the Russians and the Russian empire. He also works for putin.
Your gratitude is limitless!
I believe in the Republican Party. As I already wrote, Trump is just a clown who brings the Republicans to power.
You see for yourself that the Democrats are cowards and impotent. There are only two parties in the USA, there is not much choice.
I believe in the Republican Party. As I already wrote, Trump is just a clown who brings the Republicans to power.
Believing that a party led by a clown will give US, Ukraine and the world anything but a circus is highly delusional! ::)
Republican base taking the anti Ukraine stance.I think this is not true. There is a small percentage of Republicans who say anti-Ukrainian words. But, I prefer to look not at what they say, but at what they do. Trump can say whatever he wants, but if military aid to Ukraine increases and more sanctions are imposed on the Russians and Chinese, it will be right.
Interesting maps Zero, thank you.
Also very interesting to learn that Ukrainian people are genetically not as strongly related to Russia as Putin keeps claiming.
Ukraine must win, will join both NATO and the EU.
@Lizard
Nobody cares about Brics.
They are totally divided and fighting each other, with China, Russia and several others all believing they will be the top dog and everyone else just becomes a slave state in their „empire“.
Their oligarchs will certainly thrive and make more money and perhaps longterm China will indeed dominate it all.
But the countries joining are not really interesting. Difficult economies, cannot feed their exploding populations and if they have any natural resources the money just goes to the oligarchs.
Their populations are desperate to escape and get jobs in NATO countries.
Until it goes the other way round - people from wealthy countries starting to move into the Brics zone it is all dead on arrival.
Actually I wish them luck, maybe they can do a little bit together to improve the lives of their people.
But I doubt it.Poor populations make better slaves.
Their populations are desperate to escape and get jobs in NATO countries.
China, Russia and several others all believing they will be the top dog and everyone else just becomes a slave state in their „empire“.China is the main enemy of peace and democracy. If there is no China, there will be no russia.
You, and the reason is that a lot of what you are saying is turning off people who's support Ukraine very much needs.:)
We can argue about whether what you are saying is true or not, but trust me the effect is the same. People who were on the fence or even broadly supportive of Ukraine are 100% being turned off by your xenophobia and also your opinions on American politics.
Again I am not arguing over whether what you are saying is true (I could, but that isn’t my point). My point is please think a bit more strategically if you want to help Ukraine, because this ain’t it.
Interesting that Elizabeth Warren who you praised above for her anti-Musk stance is a democrat (and btw, I don't like her marxist views at all)Well, not all Democrats are cowards ;D ;D
Keep inflating the bubble you live in, but don't be surprised when it will burst, smashing everything you are fighting for and more.I have nothing to do with it. The Democrats are inflating their own bubble. We'll see how this ends in the elections.
Rest assured that Trump will get rid of all those who are supporting Ukraine, and replace them with the likes of Vivek Ramaswamy, Marjorie Taylor Green, Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz etc... who kiss his a@@ all day long and push for a deal that will give russia whatever they occupied today. 🤮You think too much of the clown Trump. ;D
You think too much of the clown Trump. ;D
I don’t know who will be the next president of the United States, I’m just writing that politics should be done by Republicans, not Democrats.
Zero Talent, Why do you like these Democrats so much? You are not a female US citizen. ;D
Interesting that Elizabeth Warren who you praised above for her anti-Musk stance is a democrat (and btw, I don't like her marxist views at all)
Keep inflating the bubble you live in, but don't be surprised when it will burst, smashing everything you are fighting for and more.
Rest assured that Trump will get rid of all those who are supporting Ukraine, and replace them with the likes of Vivek Ramaswamy, Marjorie Taylor Green, Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz etc... who kiss his a@@ all day long and push for a deal that will give russia whatever they occupied today. 🤮
You want the new republicans, the nationalist-populists, the isolationists, the growing anti-Ukraine wing to win, therefore you will get the clown, and lose whatever support Ukraine got so far.Yes, you are right, there are risks. But these risks were and are created by the Democrats. We see how easily the Russians evade sanctions, how China is strengthening. The policies of the Democrats lead to the fact that fascism will soon occupy the whole world.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66798508 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66798508);D
lol, what a bunch of clowns. Lack of professionalism leads to missile launch. Pilot is too inept to hit target with first missile, second just falls right off the wing when he tries to fire it.
The trifecta; crappy procedures, lack of necessary skill and trash equipment.
You want the new republicans, the nationalist-populists, the isolationists, the growing anti-Ukraine wing to win, therefore you will get the clown, and lose whatever support Ukraine got so far.Yes, you are right, there are risks.
You have little idea who the Republicans are.
1. Where do you live?
You have little idea who the Republicans are.
I'm afraid it's the other way around.
I live among them, while you live faraway, in a wishful thinking fantasy world, populated by old school Republicans who don't exist anymore.
If Trump wins, Ukraine will be handed over to Putin with nice golden bow wrapped around it.Great script for a horror movie. But why don't Hollywood make a film like this? ;D
Trump is Putins puppet, he will do anything he wants immediately.
You should look up the Maga 2025 agenda. They want to dismantle democracy in the USA once and for all.
The old republicans no longer exist. This is now Trumps party and MAGA hates democracy more than anything.
Ukraine will become part of Russia, the USA will be moved out of Nato, Taiwan will lose it's protection and be handed over to China.
All while Trump and his family make billions in bribe money.
1. Where do you live?
2. Which Republicans are you talking about? About congressmen and industrialists or about the electorate that likes Trump?
1. Where do you live?
I live in the US and I regularly meet republicans. Democrats don't even dare to propose candidates in my neighborhood because they stand no chance. ;)
Obviously you are not living in the US, because if you would, you would know what I'm talking about.
You, as I said before, live in a fantasy world.
I hope you realise that Hollywood movies are only movies.... ::)
But your interests and US foreign policy are completely different things.You prove one more time, that from your faraway land, you have a very distorted idea of US politics and US voter's sentiment.
The US will switch to an isolationist policy and Ukraine will be handed over on a silver plate to gospodin putin. That's what you are wishing for. ::)You constantly ignore the fact that Trump was already President of the United States. And nothing happened from those horror stories that you constantly write here.
If Trump wanted to give Ukraine and half of the EU to the Russians, putin would have launched a full-scale offensive on Ukraine under Trump, and not under Biden. This is a fact and it is obvious.
Oil prices began to rise under Obama. The price of oil was not negative under Trump. And what does the price of oil have to do with it? It is only the Democrats who use such a term as the price of oil. There is such a thing as an embargo. So, regardless of the price of oil and gas, an embargo should be applied to the Russians.If Trump wanted to give Ukraine and half of the EU to the Russians, putin would have launched a full-scale offensive on Ukraine under Trump, and not under Biden. This is a fact and it is obvious.
Night follows day. That's also a fact.
He obviously couldn't invade when the oil price was negative, but who is looking into such details, when you have propaganda to feed you "facts"? ::)
Believe it or not, putin did not launch an offensive under Trump only because he is afraid of the Republicans.
Zero Talent, You are very fanatical about defending Democrats and it shows. I think you have some kind of personal interest in the Democrats winning.
You only know black or white.This has nothing to do with it at all.
You only know black or white.This has nothing to do with it at all.
But even if I thought only in black and white, I would never propose giving power to the Republicans.
There is no need to label people.
Wilm, if the Democrats win the elections in 2024, the planet will come very close to the hot phase of war. China, North Korea, Iran and the Russians want to take over the whole world and occupy democratic countries.
If you don’t like what I write, this does not mean that you are right and understand geopolitics better than me.
Russia hits Kostiantynivka (Ukraine) killing at least 16 people.Zelensky is lying again, and you are again broadcasting this lie here, deceiving people.
https://youtu.be/vogf24QwUm8 (https://youtu.be/vogf24QwUm8)
Quote from Zelenskyy: "When anyone in the world still tries to deal with anything of Russian nature, it means turning a blind eye to reality. The audacity of evil. The audacity of meanness. Full-scale inhumanity.
By now, Russian terrorists' artillery has killed 16 people in the town of Kostiantynivka, Donetsk Oblast. It was an ordinary market. Shops. A pharmacy. People who did nothing wrong. Many were wounded. Unfortunately, the number of people killed and injured may increase."
Russians are orcs who only know how to fight against women and children.
Zelensky is lying again, and you are again broadcasting this lie here, deceiving people.
Evidence collected and analyzed by The New York Times, including missile fragments, satellite imagery, witness accounts and social media posts, strongly suggests the catastrophic strike was the result of an errant Ukrainian air defense missile fired by a Buk launch system.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/world/europe/ukraine-missile-kostiantynivka-market.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/world/europe/ukraine-missile-kostiantynivka-market.html)
You should read my posts from the last month. Geopolitics is a huge chessboard. A bloc of countries is opposed to democracy: russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Belarus. Each country has its own role, and China supports each of these countries. There is an opinion that this entire bloc is controlled by China.Wilm, if the Democrats win the elections in 2024, the planet will come very close to the hot phase of war. China, North Korea, Iran and the Russians want to take over the whole world and occupy democratic countries.
If you don’t like what I write, this does not mean that you are right and understand geopolitics better than me.
still with these Chinese? :D
But do you really believe that China will start a hot war against NATO?
Have you forgotten that China abstained in the 2014 referendum?
I can't read the article as it's behind a paywallThe Times published an article paid for by the Russians. The arguments there are certainly cool, according to some unknown witnesses, messages on social networks. ::)
What’s your broader point? How are people being “deceived”, do you mean about this one missile or more broadly?More broadly I see that Zelensky’s constant lies are aimed at trying to draw NATO armed forces directly into this conflict. Remember for example last year when a Ukrainian rocket fell on Polish territory and killed people. Then Zelenskyy also imidiatly blamed Russia saying that "Russian missiles hit Poland". After this, polish President Duda spoke with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg about the possibility of activating Article 4 of the NATO Charter. It’s not far from Article 4 to Article 5. And the application of Article 5 will lead to global war and mutual destruction in a nuclear war. I don't know how, but the war must be ended as quickly as possible through peace negotiations. The escalation of a local war into a global one is unacceptable, as it threatens the disappearance of human civilization. This is my broader point of view that you asked about.
Zero Talent, I have already written to you many times, stop reading the circus performances of the Trump clown. He says different things every day. From the latter, he no longer wants to give Crimea to the Russians.Yes, indeed. We should look at the parties, too.
There is no point in your Biden, who always sings beautifully, but whose politics are of very, very little use.
Therefore, we must look not at Biden or Trump as individuals, but at parties.
I don't know how, but the war must be ended as quickly as possible through peace negotiations.
+100I don't know how, but the war must be ended as quickly as possible through peace negotiations.
That's easy.
Tell your warmonger dear leader for life to withdraw his invading army from Ukraine beyond its internationally recognized borders (that includes Crimea, in case the obvious must be stated), and then the peace negotiations can begin.
Negotiations about how much compensation russia must pay for murdering so many of innocent people, for the looting, devastation and destruction of a sovereign country, all of it only because of its mad imperialistic obsessions.
That's easy.Maybe you can try to tell it yourself and you’ll do better?
Tell ....
Zero TalentZero Talent, I have already written to you many times, stop reading the circus performances of the Trump clown. He says different things every day. From the latter, he no longer wants to give Crimea to the Russians.Yes, indeed. We should look at the parties, too.
There is no point in your Biden, who always sings beautifully, but whose politics are of very, very little use.
Therefore, we must look not at Biden or Trump as individuals, but at parties.
There is a party whose representatives are voting unanimously to support Ukraine's liberation efforts, and there is another party whose representatives are relentlessly issuing bills (luckily unsuccessful... for now) aiming to stop all help for Ukraine.
Can you name these parties? 🤔
That's easy.Maybe you can try to tell it yourself and you’ll do better?
Tell ....
It looks as if you know how I vote in the elections of the head of state.
He is not my dear leader, but he is yours.
So it's up to you and the other russians to tell him, one way or anothe
It looks as if you know how I vote in the elections of the head of state.
He is not my dear leader, but he is yours.
So it's up to you and the other russians to tell him, one way or anothe
It looks as if you know how I vote in the elections of the head of state.
He is not my dear leader, but he is yours.
So it's up to you and the other russians to tell him, one way or anothe
Like the elections in russia matter. 🙄
You must be delusional. There are other ways to tell a mad dictator to stop the war.
Zero TalentZero Talent, I have already written to you many times, stop reading the circus performances of the Trump clown. He says different things every day. From the latter, he no longer wants to give Crimea to the Russians.Yes, indeed. We should look at the parties, too.
There is no point in your Biden, who always sings beautifully, but whose politics are of very, very little use.
Therefore, we must look not at Biden or Trump as individuals, but at parties.
There is a party whose representatives are voting unanimously to support Ukraine's liberation efforts, and there is another party whose representatives are relentlessly issuing bills (luckily unsuccessful... for now) aiming to stop all help for Ukraine.
Can you name these parties? 🤔
1. Where is F16?
2. Where are the ATACMS missiles?
3. Where are the Abrams tanks?
4. Why Lend-Lease doesn't work?
5. Why are there few sanctions against the Russians and no sanctions against China?
And there are a lot of similar questions.
Talking, voting, signing and doing are different things.
You argue only with words, refer to beautiful words and voting results. But these Democrats are of very little use. Apart from chatter, there is little real and effective action.
@stoker2014:It’s immediately obvious that you read little about geopolitics. Communist and totalitarian China will never join NATO. China is called the main threat to the United States and the world order. China not only trades with the Russians, it also supplies the Russians with weapons and supports the Russians in the UN.
I believe that China will join NATO in a maximum of 20 years.
the only real problem is in fact Taiwan,this will slow down China's entry into NATO,otherwise it would have happened sooner.
China does not support Russia in the war against Ukraine,but it is also true that it has increased imports of oil and other resources from Russia,and some might think that it is supporting Russia economically but instead in my opinion it is an economic maneuver in view of the increase in prices of these resources.
This Rashist and Russian troll cannot even answer the question whose Crimea is. And you want him to rebel against his tsar. ::)That's easy.Maybe you can try to tell it yourself and you’ll do better?
Tell ....
He is not my dear leader, but he is yours.
So it's not up to me. It's up you and the other russians to tell him, one way or another, to stop the war and withdraw his troops.
And you should do something about it, before having the audacity to ask for peace, while your fellow russians are still invading, looting and destroying an independent country and killing so many innocent civilians.
Zero Talent, we are discussing only two parties. Democratic and Republican.
You are frightening that if the Republicans come to power, it will be worse for Ukraine. Yes, your horror stories may have a certain percentage of truth, this is called risks. I do not like and do not tolerate stagnation, double standards and trading on Ukrainian blood. The third world war is underway. And if the Democrats are not effective, what fool would support them? If the Republicans come and turn out to be worse than the Democrats, then they will not have support either.
But, I saw the foreign policy of the Republicans when Trump was president, I liked this policy more than the policy of the Democrats. You understand much of what the Republicans say very crudely and do not fully understand what they want to do. This is your problem.
If I were deciding who to give power to in the United States, I would have given power to the Republicans a year ago.
Republicans are willing and able to pursue a more comprehensive foreign policy than Democrats do. Republicans want not only the defeat of the Russians, but also a significant weakening of China. Only under Republican leadership can the democratic world defeat the Chinese dragon.
@stoker2014:It’s immediately obvious that you read little about geopolitics. Communist and totalitarian China will never join NATO. China is called the main threat to the United States and the world order. China not only trades with the Russians, it also supplies the Russians with weapons and supports the Russians in the UN.
I believe that China will join NATO in a maximum of 20 years.
the only real problem is in fact Taiwan,this will slow down China's entry into NATO,otherwise it would have happened sooner.
China does not support Russia in the war against Ukraine,but it is also true that it has increased imports of oil and other resources from Russia,and some might think that it is supporting Russia economically but instead in my opinion it is an economic maneuver in view of the increase in prices of these resources.
The democratic world is already fighting a third world war with the Chinese dragon. This dragon has 3 heads (China, russia, Iran). The dragon also has 2 front hands (DPRK, Belarus). So, in order to kill a dragon, it is not enough to chop off just one Russian head.
This is all educational, and you need to read more about China and the threat it poses to the democratic world.
A lot of words, but you still have not named the parties:We've already talked about this. You are passing off a small group of Republicans as the entire Republican Party. Yes, there are different people in the Republican Party, perhaps this adds votes to the party in elections. But these people are very few. Also, not only Republicans, but also Democrats vote in Congress. Democrats can only talk and vote. When the Republicans take power, this will be enough from the Democrats.
Which party has always voted unanimously to support Ukraine, and which party is relentlessly attempting to stop all aid, by trying to get anti-Ukraine bills passed in the Congress?
Here is the a speech from a few moments ago:
https://youtu.be/zPitEXBh06s
Rest assured that you will never get this from trump nor any other maga republican!
You write illusions, the reality is completely different.
the point is NATO's expansion plan to the east,which in the end will inevitably also involve China.
Putin's government will soon end,times are changing,NATO will continue to expand,it is now an unbeatable superpower,neither China nor anyone can now openly challenge NATO,not even the three allied dragon heads can do anything against NATO anymore,they know it too.
The consequence of all this is inevitable,I see a not too distant future in which China will join NATO after other Asian countries will join first.
If trump returns to power, today's 32% will become a solid majority. They will dictate the policies in Congress and in the White House. And then you will kiss goodbye to all US aid for Ukraine.Where did you get this 32%? Did you count it yourself?
Be careful what you wish for!
If trump returns to power, today's 32% will become a solid majority. They will dictate the policies in Congress and in the White House. And then you will kiss goodbye to all US aid for Ukraine.Where did you get this 32%? Did you count it yourself?
Be careful what you wish for!
Even if this is so, 100-32 = 70% (approximately), then 70% + all the democrats you like so much = Ukraine will continue to have the support of the United States. It's simple.
And what kind of US assistance do you constantly write about? Do you mean money? Ukraine needs weapons on the battlefield. And the Democrats practically do not provide weapons, especially those that are needed.
Once again, do not forget that Congress consists of 2 parties, regardless of the election results.
In case you didn't realize $113 billions is close to two times the total Ukraine budget for 2022.I don’t know what kind of money this is and where it even went. This money is definitely not needed on the battlefield. Democrats do not provide Ukraine with the necessary weapons and in the required quantity. These are the facts. Republicans may not give Ukraine money, but there is hope that they will give the necessary weapons. This is understandable and this is clear. The policies of the Democrats lead to the fact that Ukraine will be slowly and painfully destroyed.
You can kiss that goodbye when your maga loyalists will seize power.
89 × 100/(89+130) = 40.6% of RepublicansNot all of these 89 and 70 Republicans are against Ukraine and for russia. Some of them believe that the EU should give money or that Ukraine should report on the allocated money or an audit should be carried out. Therefore your math is not accurate and incorrect. And as I already wrote, Ukraine does not need money, but weapons, which the cowardly democrats do not want to give.
70 x 100/(70 + 149) = 31.9% of Republicans
Zero Talent, Ukraine has no other choice but to hope for the Republicans to come to power. With Democrats in power in the US, Ukraine will be destroyed by the Russians.
89 × 100/(89+130) = 40.6% of RepublicansNot all of these 89 and 70 Republicans are against Ukraine and for russia. Some of them believe that the EU should give money or that Ukraine should report on the allocated money or an audit should be carried out. Therefore your math is not accurate and incorrect. And as I already wrote, Ukraine does not need money, but weapons, which the cowardly democrats do not want to give.
70 x 100/(70 + 149) = 31.9% of Republicans
Ir's ironic that both you and putin are rooting for trump to return to power... ::)putin is an agent of the KGB, relying on what he says publicly is the wrong path. I have seen the Republican policy under Trump, it is more comprehensive and strategically correct than the Democratic policy.
russian president vladimir putin recently said he was "happy" to hear Trump's promise to "resolve all burning issues within several days" — including the war in Ukraine.
Think about it.
The United States has provided the most military aid to Ukraine.Yes, the EU provides very few weapons. And compared to the EU, the US probably looks better. But this is a dead end conversation. I have already written many times about what Ukraine needs.
Ukraine does not need money, but weapons, which the cowardly democrats do not want to give.
This Rashist and Russian troll cannot even answer the question whose Crimea is. And you want him to rebel against his tsar. ::)You've gone too far with your insults, CIPSO agent. The troll acting according to the SBU (successor of the Ukrainian branch of the Soviet KGB) guidelines is just you. And you’re mad because I come here to expose your constant fakes.
TanksIt's not serious at all. Google how many tanks Russian terrorists have.
31 M1A1 Abrams [To be delivered]
45 T-72B tanks (manufactured by Excalibur Army, purchase and upgrade financed by USA) [delivered from December 2022 onwards]
You write illusions, the reality is completely different.
the point is NATO's expansion plan to the east,which in the end will inevitably also involve China.
Putin's government will soon end,times are changing,NATO will continue to expand,it is now an unbeatable superpower,neither China nor anyone can now openly challenge NATO,not even the three allied dragon heads can do anything against NATO anymore,they know it too.
The consequence of all this is inevitable,I see a not too distant future in which China will join NATO after other Asian countries will join first.
The third world war is underway, and it is not known how it will end. Especially when the Democrats are in power in the United States.
and you write sci-fi books because there will be no WWIII.:o :o :o
but Russia must not be removed from the Security Council,because now more than ever it is important that it continues to be present.:o :o :o
In my opinion the only thing that should be done is to arrest and convict Putin of war crimes and put an end to all this,That's what will happen anyway,it's just a matter of time.:'( :'( :'(
There won't even be any war between the US and China over Taiwan.::) ::) ::)
whatever happens in Italy we already have an army of 200,000 soldiers ready to fight alongside our allies,which for a small country like Italy is a lot.8) 8) 8)
Zero Talent, we are discussing only two parties. Democratic and Republican.
You are frightening that if the Republicans come to power, it will be worse for Ukraine. Yes, your horror stories may have a certain percentage of truth, this is called risks. I do not like and do not tolerate stagnation, double standards and trading on Ukrainian blood. The third world war is underway. And if the Democrats are not effective, what fool would support them? If the Republicans come and turn out to be worse than the Democrats, then they will not have support either.
But, I saw the foreign policy of the Republicans when Trump was president, I liked this policy more than the policy of the Democrats. You understand much of what the Republicans say very crudely and do not fully understand what they want to do. This is your problem.
If I were deciding who to give power to in the United States, I would have given power to the Republicans a year ago.
Republicans are willing and able to pursue a more comprehensive foreign policy than Democrats do. Republicans want not only the defeat of the Russians, but also a significant weakening of China. Only under Republican leadership can the democratic world defeat the Chinese dragon.
Ir's ironic that both you and putin are rooting for trump to return to power... ::)I have seen the Republican policy under Trump, it is more comprehensive and strategically correct than the Democratic policy.
russian president vladimir putin recently said he was "happy" to hear Trump's promise to "resolve all burning issues within several days" — including the war in Ukraine.
Think about it.
I wrote about this yesterday in this thread.
I don't know if you've been following the news today.
The fact is, Biden has asked the U.S. Congress to provide $24 billion in additional military aid to Ukraine. Republicans, however, are reacting skeptically - support for Ukraine in Republican ranks is on the decline.
Maybe you should think about it and inform yourself!
There's a lot of conflicting information out there. But in general, Biden’s policies are very bad, the Democrats spend huge amounts of money, but the necessary weapons do not reach Ukraine and the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have quick success. The Republicans are right, Biden shouldn't be allowed to spend money if he's a coward and can't spend the money properly. These are all the results of the policies of cowardly Democrats.Ir's ironic that both you and putin are rooting for trump to return to power... ::)I have seen the Republican policy under Trump, it is more comprehensive and strategically correct than the Democratic policy.
russian president vladimir putin recently said he was "happy" to hear Trump's promise to "resolve all burning issues within several days" — including the war in Ukraine.
Think about it.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/21/politics/republicans-zelensky-ukraine-polls-skeptical/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/21/politics/republicans-zelensky-ukraine-polls-skeptical/index.html)
He is never going to get it. He lives in Moldova so is next in line of Russia succeeds in Ukraine.There are elections in Poland now, that's why politicians are making such statements. After the elections, Poland will continue to supply weapons.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66882161 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66882161)
Biden and other Western leaders (Polish ones in the case above) are walking a tightrope.
Far right populists are seizing the chance to drive wedge on Ukraine spending. Many voters in other countries are fickle. If they feel like they are doing good they will get behind a cause. If they think there is a chance of escalation or real sacrifice on their part they’re out. The narrative does matter, even places like here. It’s why Russia spends millions on troll farms to spout propaganda all over the internet.
He lives in MoldovaWho are you talking about? I don't live in Moldova.
Oh sorry, I thought another poster said you did. Where are you if you don't mind me asking?He lives in MoldovaWho are you talking about? I don't live in Moldova.
Oh sorry, I thought another poster said you did. Where are you if you don't mind me asking?He lives in MoldovaWho are you talking about? I don't live in Moldova.
A lot of words, but you still have not named the parties:We've already talked about this. You are passing off a small group of Republicans as the entire Republican Party. Yes, there are different people in the Republican Party, perhaps this adds votes to the party in elections. But these people are very few. Also, not only Republicans, but also Democrats vote in Congress. Democrats can only talk and vote. When the Republicans take power, this will be enough from the Democrats.
Which party has always voted unanimously to support Ukraine, and which party is relentlessly attempting to stop all aid, by trying to get anti-Ukraine bills passed in the Congress?
Here is the a speech from a few moments ago:
https://youtu.be/zPitEXBh06s
Rest assured that you will never get this from trump nor any other maga republican!
Tucker Carlson finds a new booster: Russian TV.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/25/tucker-carlson-takes-dubbing-debut-russia-show/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/25/tucker-carlson-takes-dubbing-debut-russia-show/)
Recent vote (september 27th): a majority of Republicans in the House voted against Ukraine.You are interpreting this vote in a way that benefits the Democrats. Republicans are not against Ukraine, they are against Biden's policies and the Democrats' policies.
The number is growing (as I told you) and will continue to grow (as I'm telling you) ;)
Do you have statistics on what percentage of Republican voters watch this Carlson?Tucker Carlson finds a new booster: Russian TV.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/25/tucker-carlson-takes-dubbing-debut-russia-show/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/25/tucker-carlson-takes-dubbing-debut-russia-show/)
Of course.
Carlson is a maga republican darling.
His deep anti-Ukraine positions resonate very well with maga republican voters and their maga republican representatives, the same way they resonate with russian "voters".
No surprise, here.
You are interpreting this vote in a way that benefits the Democrats. Republicans are not against Ukraine, they are against Biden's policies and the Democrats' policies.
Many Republicans are ready to vote these bills, as long as the Ukraine aid is removed from them.The election campaign is in full swing in the United States. Republicans consider the Democrats' policies to be ineffective; these are normal things for the United States. Ukraine does not need money, I have already written about this many times. Ukraine needs aviation and missiles, which the cowardly democrats do not want to give.
Example from a prominent republican below.
You don't want to see the truth, even when the evidence is screaming in your face, because it's against your deep rooted beliefs.Many Republicans are ready to vote these bills, as long as the Ukraine aid is removed from them.The election campaign is in full swing in the United States. Republicans consider the Democrats' policies to be ineffective; these are normal things for the United States. Ukraine does not need money, I have already written about this many times. Ukraine needs aviation and missiles, which the cowardly democrats do not want to give.
Example from a prominent republican below.
You are using Ukraine as a weapon in the election fight against the Republicans. It looks dirty.
There is no need to give Democrats the opportunity to spend taxpayers' money on unknown things. Let Biden begin to implement the Lend-Lease that he signed more than a year ago.
Fuck the Democrats.
What does the cowardly Democrat Biden even spend his money on? Where are the tanks, where are the aircraft, where are the missiles? All this is missing. The conclusion is simple, there is no need to give money to the Democrats, they spend it on God knows what. Let this money lie in the bank and wait for the Republicans to come to power.You don't want to see the truth, because it's against your deep rooted beliefs, even when the evidence is screaming in your face.Many Republicans are ready to vote these bills, as long as the Ukraine aid is removed from them.The election campaign is in full swing in the United States. Republicans consider the Democrats' policies to be ineffective; these are normal things for the United States. Ukraine does not need money, I have already written about this many times. Ukraine needs aviation and missiles, which the cowardly democrats do not want to give.
Example from a prominent republican below.
You are using Ukraine as a weapon in the election fight against the Republicans. It looks dirty.
There is no need to give Democrats the opportunity to spend taxpayers' money on unknown things. Let Biden begin to implement the Lend-Lease that he signed more than a year ago.
Fuck the Democrats.
All weapons Ukraine needs, be them aviation or missiles are costing American taxpayers money.
That's the spending a majority of Republicans is against.
Like you, I care about putin's defeat.
But unlike you, I understand how Amercan politics work.
Zero Talent,
I don't know if the Republicans will win, but I don't mind them winning. Your arguments are not serious yet.
And as I said, Biden has 1 year. And for real action he no longer needs money, he just needs to allow the sending of aircraft, missiles and many tanks to Ukraine.
Just get in touch with your fellow Ukrainians who can see things clearly and understand which side of the American politics is the worst for Ukraine freedom and teritorial integrity.You can read for yourself what they write in Ukraine. The topic is called "Lies and propaganda of bots of the US Democratic Party." Google translator will translate the topic into any language.
Maybe they will convince you to get your head out of the sand:
Just get in touch with your fellow Ukrainians who can see things clearly and understand which side of the American politics is the worst for Ukraine freedom and teritorial integrity.You can read for yourself what they write in Ukraine. The topic is called "Lies and propaganda of bots of the US Democratic Party." Google translator will translate the topic into any language.
Maybe they will convince you to get your head out of the sand:
https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/zagaln-obgovorennya/brehnya-propaganda-ukranskih-botv-demokratichno-part-ssha/ (https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/zagaln-obgovorennya/brehnya-propaganda-ukranskih-botv-demokratichno-part-ssha/)
and
https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/nformacjn-resursi/analz-statusu-mltarno-dopomogi-ssha-ukran/ (https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/nformacjn-resursi/analz-statusu-mltarno-dopomogi-ssha-ukran/)
;D ;D ;DJust get in touch with your fellow Ukrainians who can see things clearly and understand which side of the American politics is the worst for Ukraine freedom and teritorial integrity.You can read for yourself what they write in Ukraine. The topic is called "Lies and propaganda of bots of the US Democratic Party." Google translator will translate the topic into any language.
Maybe they will convince you to get your head out of the sand:
https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/zagaln-obgovorennya/brehnya-propaganda-ukranskih-botv-demokratichno-part-ssha/ (https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/zagaln-obgovorennya/brehnya-propaganda-ukranskih-botv-demokratichno-part-ssha/)
and
https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/nformacjn-resursi/analz-statusu-mltarno-dopomogi-ssha-ukran/ (https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/nformacjn-resursi/analz-statusu-mltarno-dopomogi-ssha-ukran/)
Thanks for the links, at least now it's clear where you got your information and worldview. This forum of Ukrainian patriots, just like this thread, is dominated by the opinion of exactly one person - who is in possession of the only truth .
To sell this here as a general Ukrainian opinion is a very daring interpretation of one's own.
Apart from disliking and accusing Democrats and Biden, this same person also has a particular opinion on Covid vaccinations:
These vaccinations contribute to the depopulation of the world.
All right. ;D
The 3rd conspiracy, designed for Ukrainians claims that russia and the US have a secret Molotov - Ribbentrop type of aggrement.I write this almost all the time. Not exactly as you wrote. But we constantly see Biden doing geopolitical trade with the Russians. The goods are the provision of aviation to Ukraine, missiles, tanks, permission or prohibition to shoot at russia, non-provision of fighters to Iran and much more. As a result of this trade, Ukrainians die every day. And yes, in fact, Ukrainians sacrifice themselves every day so that the Russians do not launch an attack on the EU.
The US, afraid of the russian power agreed to sacrifice Ukraine based on putin's promise that russia will not go further and invade other countries.
Mind-boggling!
Now, replace the US with Biden/Democrats and there you have it.
At the same time, rest assured that if a Republican was in the White House, our Stocker would have blamed the Republicans. ::)
Democrats are the best friends of Russian fascists and putin. The Democrats' policy is aimed at preserving the Russian empire, occupying Ukraine and killing Ukrainians. These are the facts.
F16 fighters, tanks, missiles and shells are not new weapons.Democrats are the best friends of Russian fascists and putin. The Democrats' policy is aimed at preserving the Russian empire, occupying Ukraine and killing Ukrainians. These are the facts.
No, these are not the facts at all! You think the Democrats are bad because they are too slow to provide the latest weapons - I agree they have been too slow, although part of that is about training and maintenance. However, you think the Republicans would be better? The ones who want to withdraw all aid and give Ukraine to Putin? How is that better? Why did Putin work so hard to get Trump elected over Clinton? Because he knew Hillary would be tough on Russia while Trump had been groomed as a Russian asset since the 80s. If Biden was not in the White House the Russians would have taken over Ukraine long ago and would now be moving on to other countries. Congress finally passed a stopgap budget yesterday with aid to Ukraine removed because of the Republicans. Just because Biden is not as aggressive as you think he should be doesn't mean they are helping Putin. Your "facts" are all wrong - please stop.
;D ;D ;DJust get in touch with your fellow Ukrainians who can see things clearly and understand which side of the American politics is the worst for Ukraine freedom and teritorial integrity.You can read for yourself what they write in Ukraine. The topic is called "Lies and propaganda of bots of the US Democratic Party." Google translator will translate the topic into any language.
Maybe they will convince you to get your head out of the sand:
https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/zagaln-obgovorennya/brehnya-propaganda-ukranskih-botv-demokratichno-part-ssha/ (https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/zagaln-obgovorennya/brehnya-propaganda-ukranskih-botv-demokratichno-part-ssha/)
and
https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/nformacjn-resursi/analz-statusu-mltarno-dopomogi-ssha-ukran/ (https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/nformacjn-resursi/analz-statusu-mltarno-dopomogi-ssha-ukran/)
Thanks for the links, at least now it's clear where you got your information and worldview. This forum of Ukrainian patriots, just like this thread, is dominated by the opinion of exactly one person - who is in possession of the only truth .
To sell this here as a general Ukrainian opinion is a very daring interpretation of one's own.
Apart from disliking and accusing Democrats and Biden, this same person also has a particular opinion on Covid vaccinations:
These vaccinations contribute to the depopulation of the world.
All right. ;D
In fact, I saw that forum today for the first time, just like you.
Zero Talent himself wrote to me so that I could read what they write in Ukraine. Well, I brought what I found. If you find other information on the Ukrainian Internet about Biden and the Democrats, please provide a link.
Where does that author write about covid and depopulation? Give me a link.
1. It is still completely unclear what your intention, your goal is.
2. If you post a link here, then you should already know to some extent what the content is. I think that it is relatively quickly recognizable that the Ukrainian forum has been hijacked by a completely whacked conspiracy theorist with the pseudonym Wednesday and over 9000 proud posts.
3. From all the conspiracy nonsense you picked out the statements that fit into your world view - no matter by whom the truths are spread.
4. The statements in this forum are not entirely harmless either. If this really would represent the opinion of the entire Ukraine - which I do not even remotely assume - then you would actually have to stop the aid immediately. In this respect again a disservice for Ukraine from you.
5. And no, I will not surf the Ukrainian Internet. Apart from the fact that I don't speak the language, you certainly won't find a realistic opinion here - for that you would have to travel to Ukraine.
Be careful what you wish for!
QuoteBe careful what you wish for!Stocker, you are begining to get what you are wishing for.
Maga republicans managed to stop the aid for Ukraine under the threat to shutdown the US government.
Congrats! >:(
Remember, this is only foreshadowing what will happen under a second trump administration, dominated by even more maga republicans.
Sorry Ukraine, you deserve better! :'(
QuoteBe careful what you wish for!Stocker, you are begining to get what you are wishing for.
Maga republicans managed to stop the aid for Ukraine under the threat to shutdown the US government.
Congrats! >:(
Remember, this is only foreshadowing what will happen under a second trump administration, dominated by even more maga republicans.
Sorry Ukraine, you deserve better! :'(
https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/zagaln-obgovorennya/brehnya-propaganda-ukranskih-botv-demokratichno-part-ssha/ (https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/zagaln-obgovorennya/brehnya-propaganda-ukranskih-botv-demokratichno-part-ssha/)
I see the situation as written in this link. All this money is games and lies of the Democrats. This money doesn't mean anything.
Zero Talent, no one conquered my thoughts; I only read that text yesterday, diagonally, fluently. I write about the same thing all the time. I don’t have the enthusiasm and joy for the Democrats that you do. I am not participating in the US presidential elections and am not campaigning. I am just writing my thoughts and the opinions of some experts. You constantly attack Republicans and praise Democrats.
Today is a holiday for Russian trolls. Elon Musk attacked the President of Ukraine with rude accusations and trolling.
>:( >:( >:(
Well then, both Biden and Trump are not effective. That's how it works. I don't like Biden, I don't like Trump. But if we talk about parties, I like the Republicans more.Zero Talent, no one conquered my thoughts; I only read that text yesterday, diagonally, fluently. I write about the same thing all the time. I don’t have the enthusiasm and joy for the Democrats that you do. I am not participating in the US presidential elections and am not campaigning. I am just writing my thoughts and the opinions of some experts. You constantly attack Republicans and praise Democrats.
You don't understand what I write and you don't want to pay attention and learn something else than your deep rooted beliefs.
I don't attach the republicans, I attack trump, his moronic ideas and isolationist maga voters, who have turned the GoP away from its classical doctrine.
I don't praise Biden or the democrats.
I would gladly vote for an old school republican like Chris Christie or Nikkie Haley instead of Biden, but unfortunately, they stand no chance.
You mean this?Yes. This.
Welcome to trumpism and maga/russian propaganda ::)
I don't like Biden, I don't like Trump. But if we talk about parties, I like the Republicans more.
You mean this?Yes. This.
Welcome to trumpism and maga/russian propaganda ::)
But there is no need to draw conclusions based on the statements of one idiot who works for the Russians.
I strongly disagree. Only a small percentage of the Republican Party does not want to support Ukraine. When this percentage becomes 45 or more, then I will be against the Republicans.I don't like Biden, I don't like Trump. But if we talk about parties, I like the Republicans more.
You still don't get it. The republicans you like are a minority (like Christie or Haley) on its way to extinction, with no chance to make a change anymore.
The new GoP is the maga party who just voted against Ukraine aid.
It's the party ready to trade Ukrainian land for peace with putin.
Zelesky's neck and forehead are definitely not the same. Either this is another person with Zelensky’s face, or deformities were specially added.You mean this?Yes. This.
Welcome to trumpism and maga/russian propaganda ::)
But there is no need to draw conclusions based on the statements of one idiot who works for the Russians.
Do you think he spent time cloning Zelensky's face on the meme?
You can start doing it right now, since it is already over 50%.
When this percentage becomes 45 or more, then I will be against the Republicans.
Let's talk about these topics better when Trump or someone else from the Republicans wins the election. Before the elections, these are conversations at the level of faith.You can start doing it right now, since it is already over 50%.
When this percentage becomes 45 or more, then I will be against the Republicans.
But it doesn't matter. Even if it becomes 100% you will still believe in fairy tales, because that's what the propaganda you listen to convince you to believe in. ::)
All these articles are of course very interesting, correct and clearly written by democrats. But I have already asked the same question many times, why don’t the Democrats supply aviation, long-range missiles and tanks to Ukraine? Answer, Democrats!
Without these weapons, the US and EU spend money ineffectively and have very, very little effect. The Ukrainian Armed Forces cannot effectively attack Russian fascists without aviation, tanks and missiles with a range of at least 300 km.
Why do Democrats want Ukraine to fight against the Russian Empire using the methods of the First World War?
You are beginning to realize that, even if currently insufficient, the US aid for Ukraine will dry down to nothing under a maga administration.1. Under absolutely all Democratic US presidents, assistance to Ukraine has always been and is insufficient.
But there is a possibility that the help will be even better.
You see all the actions taken by the maga republicans, ....We are back to where we started again.
That "possibility" is equal to exactly zero %.
If anything, Ukraine is still standing a chance and was not obliterated yet, exactly because of the many, many billions ($76.8 billion in total assistance, including $46.6 billion in military aid) granted by the current administration.
Ukraine support in the US, based on political affiliations.1.
“The attack on Israel happened because we are perceived as weak and ineffective with a weak leader,” Trump said at a rally of supporters in Iowa.
The politician emphasized that if elected president, he would support Israel and refuse assistance to Palestine.
+100
Both hamas and the russian government are terrorist organizations.+100
Nah... The main responsible is Netanyahu and his extreme right government,This may not be entirely true. Yes, Netanyahu is friends with putin and does not impose sanctions against Russians. But Netanyahu has been in politics for many years, and only now he has such problems.
Nah... The main responsible is Netanyahu and his extreme right government,Yes, Netanyahu is friends with putin and does not impose sanctions against Russians.
Nah... The main responsible is Netanyahu and his extreme right government,Yes, Netanyahu is friends with putin and does not impose sanctions against Russians.
Thanks. The parallel I highlighted above goes on: someone else is friends with putin:
Yeah, yeah, of course.... a plot by the democrats, right! ::)
He is obviously a putin admirer. He will serve Ukraine to him on a silver platter, then brag that he made "peace"!
Wait for it.
https://youtu.be/RR8JW2Sjhp4
Yeah, yeah, of course.... a plot by the democrats, right! ::):-\
He is obviously a putin admirer. He will serve Ukraine to him on a silver platter, then brag that he made "peace"!
Wait for it.
https://youtu.be/RR8JW2Sjhp4
The President of the United States can only be a Republican.
So what is your choice?Everything will depend on Biden’s policies and the situation in Ukraine. Biden still has 1 year. In the fall of 2024, it will be possible to make some choices. There is an opinion that Biden will increase military assistance to Ukraine; he needs it to win the election. This all looks very cynical.
I intended to say that the "Servant of the people" is already on Netflix, but then I realised it was not a premiere... ;)The GRAMMY should be next.
I intended to say that the "Servant of the people" is already on Netflix, but then I realised it was not a premiere... ;)The GRAMMY should be next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovg7LVtxoNU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovg7LVtxoNU)
Clownsky literally destroyed his country and his people for foreign interests and got a middle finger in return. Even today there are way more chances Russia will join NATO than Ukraine.
There should be his photo in dictionaries under the word puppet.
Clownsky literally destroyed his country and his people for foreign interests and got a middle finger in return. Even today there are way more chances Russia will join NATO than Ukraine.
There should be his photo in dictionaries under the word puppet.
No. Far from it.
He is the Braveheart of or times, a smart charismatic leader many countries could only dream to have.
He is doing a fantastic job, leading the defense of his people against the russian imperialist/colonialist aggression.
David vs Goliath redux, in real time, in front of our eyes!
You are obviously ill informed: putin is destroying Ukraine, not its defenders.
And if anything, you are the puppet, willingly or unwillingly manipulated by putin's Sankt Petersburg troll farm propaganda. ::)
Clownsky literally destroyed his country and his people for foreign interests and got a middle finger in return. Even today there are way more chances Russia will join NATO than Ukraine.
There should be his photo in dictionaries under the word puppet.
No. Far from it.
He is the Braveheart of or times, a smart charismatic leader many countries could only dream to have.
He is doing a fantastic job, leading the defense of his people against the russian imperialist/colonialist aggression.
David vs Goliath redux, in real time, in front of our eyes!
You are obviously ill informed: putin is destroying Ukraine, not its defenders.
And if anything, you are the puppet, willingly or unwillingly manipulated by putin's Sankt Petersburg troll farm propaganda. ::)
This war would never have happened if Clownsky played for his own team.
How do you think this war could have been avoided? What should Selensky have done to prevent it?
How do you think this war could have been avoided? What should Selensky have done to prevent it?It's better to add Russian trolls to ignore. There is no point in entering into a discussion with lies, propaganda and evil. Russian trolls, Rashists and Naz.is only need to be eliminated, which is what the Armed Forces of Ukraine is doing.
How do you think this war could have been avoided? What should Selensky have done to prevent it?
Before even entering in serious arguments lets start with the little things like this ?
You are German right ? So, you want to talk about your legal policies considering the matter of using n.a.z.i symbols ?
Dude there were banned even in video games until recent.
And there a guy shows up, not only financing people who wave the flags but renaming 300 street names just in Kyiv in favor of n.a.z.i collaborators and removing those of anti-fascists to please the right wingers.
But lets go further, why not incorporating those n.a.z.i. cults in official army structures and enable them to participate in legal functions of the state ?
Now again, lets imagine legalizing n.a.z.i symbols, renaming streets and incorporating a strong wing of SS worshipers in army forces of Germany. I can imagine some people would proudly get their amazon order shipped to Adolf Hitler's square 88. ;)
Can we start from there ?
Later we can talk about what are those people able to do to minorities with not only law on their side but the power and encouragement.
russian KGB-FSB church and kremlin uses religion as a hybrid weapon for the occupation of neighboring states.+100
8) 8) 8)
Ukraine Fires ATACMS Missile at Russian Forces for the First Time
U.S. missiles were secretly deployed to Ukraine in recent days
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/ukraine-fires-atacms-missile-at-russian-forces-for-the-first-time-3bebcdb1 (https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/ukraine-fires-atacms-missile-at-russian-forces-for-the-first-time-3bebcdb1)
Obviously some of your previous comments didn't age well. ;)Biden needs to constantly kick ass, then he does a little something. ;D ;D ;D
Obviously some of your previous comments didn't age well. ;)Biden needs to constantly kick ass, then he does a little something. ;D ;D ;D
https://t.me/c/1544300493/20577 ;D"Message in a private group or channel.
German Culture Ministry against boycott of Russian cultureSledgehammer in mouth her
:o >:(
(https://img.pravda.com/images/doc/c/a/cae28c4-gettyimages-156253998.avif)
German Culture Ministry against boycott of Russian culture
:o >:(
(https://img.pravda.com/images/doc/c/a/cae28c4-gettyimages-156253998.avif)
Claudia Roth, German Federal Government Commissioner for Culture and the Media, has spoken out against boycotting Russian culture amid Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Details: Roth said at the Frankfurt Book Fair that she does not believe in a "cultural boycott of everything of Russian origin".
"The Russian language is not Putin's property," Roth stressed.
She added that there is an "other Russia" in the form of human rights activists, writers, dissidents, the younger generation, as well as members of the LGBT and environmental movements, who are subjected to mass persecution.
The cultural boycott "will hit exactly these critical voices against Putin," Roth said.
In her opinion, it is crucial to make these voices heard and "to be careful to support them in Russia so as not to put them in even greater danger."
https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-ukraine-mittwoch-294.html#Roth (https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-ukraine-mittwoch-294.html#Roth)
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And where did she find culture in the Russian empire? There is no culture there, which is proven by the daily crimes of the Russian orcs. The entire history of russia is a lie.
Normally I don't like her political views.
But this is the smartest thing Claudia Roth has said in a long time.
A cultural boycott is nonsense, is of no use to anyone and hits the wrong people.
A cultural boycott is nonsense, is of no use to anyone and hits the wrong people.Russian culture has always been a weapon whose purpose propaganda.
Speaking about russian culture, I'm actually going through a book of short stories by Checkov right now.Anton Chekhov is Ukrainian by nationality and spirit. He was born on the territory of Ukraine. He cannot be called a Russian writer.
Speaking about russian culture, I'm actually going through a book of short stories by Checkov right now.Anton Chekhov is Ukrainian by nationality and spirit. He was born on the territory of Ukraine. He cannot be called a Russian writer.
1. On January 29, 1860, the future writer Anton Chekhov was born in the Yekaterinoslav Governorate.Speaking about russian culture, I'm actually going through a book of short stories by Checkov right now.Anton Chekhov is Ukrainian by nationality and spirit. He was born on the territory of Ukraine. He cannot be called a Russian writer.
Nah, he was born in Rostov oblast, in russia. His father was born in Voronezh governorate, russia. His mother was born in Tambov oblast, russia.
He graduated from a Moscow university. He wrote in russian.
It's true that he had Ukrainian blood (his paternal grandmother was Ukranian), but by all standards, he is part of the russian culture.
1. On January 29, 1860, the future writer Anton Chekhov was born in the Yekaterinoslav Governorate.Speaking about russian culture, I'm actually going through a book of short stories by Checkov right now.Anton Chekhov is Ukrainian by nationality and spirit. He was born on the territory of Ukraine. He cannot be called a Russian writer.
Nah, he was born in Rostov oblast, in russia. His father was born in Voronezh governorate, russia. His mother was born in Tambov oblast, russia.
He graduated from a Moscow university. He wrote in russian.
It's true that he had Ukrainian blood (his paternal grandmother was Ukranian), but by all standards, he is part of the russian culture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yekaterinoslav_Governorate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yekaterinoslav_Governorate)
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%B3%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%8F (https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%B3%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%8F)
These are Ukrainian territories where more than 80% of Ukrainians lived. Part of the Ukrainian lands is under Russian occupation. You need to take a better interest in where the Ukrainians lived.
2. The writer's father, Pavlo Yehorovych Chekhov (1823–1898), was a Ukrainian, born in the village of Vilkhovatka, Poltava province, and lived in the village of Vovcha Balka, Kharkiv region.
3. A Chekhov's grandmother Yefrosinia Shymko, with whom he often visited, spoke Ukrainian. From the navel, the boy spoke Ukrainian, later learned Russian, which is why there are many Ukrainianisms in A. Chekhov's works.
Chekhov’s native language is Ukrainian.
That's part of your nationalistic propaganda. It's understandable. It happens in other countries too. There are 4 or 5 countries claiming Tesla. ;D1. Chekhov. 2. Tolstoy.
The fact is that only his paternal grandmother was Ukrainian. Chekhov was 1 quarter Ukrainian and 3 quarters russian.
But it doesn't even matter. The very fact that he wrote in russian makes him part of the russian culture.
You can't cancel Checkov, you can't cancel Tolstoi, just because they are part of the russian culture.
Things are different with living artists who, after kissing putin's hand and endorsed his murderous policies, have the audacity to demand to perform on western stages.
These artists are part of putin's propaganda and they deserve to be stopped from spreading it.
But not Checkov. Not Tolstoi.
You see Zero Talent, from a neutral point, you are pretty much this guy, just you are somewhere on level 5-6 , and he is way above on level Conan ;D
That's part of your nationalistic propaganda. It's understandable. It happens in other countries too. There are 4 or 5 countries claiming Tesla. ;D1. Chekhov. 2. Tolstoy.
The fact is that only his paternal grandmother was Ukrainian. Chekhov was 1 quarter Ukrainian and 3 quarters russian.
But it doesn't even matter. The very fact that he wrote in russian makes him part of the russian culture.
You can't cancel Checkov, you can't cancel Tolstoi, just because they are part of the russian culture.
Things are different with living artists who, after kissing putin's hand and endorsed his murderous policies, have the audacity to demand to perform on western stages.
These artists are part of putin's propaganda and they deserve to be stopped from spreading it.
But not Checkov. Not Tolstoi.
You need to write in English correctly.
2. "That's part of your nationalistic propaganda. It's understandable. It happens in other countries too. There are 4 or 5 countries claiming Tesla. ;D"
You began to defend Russian occupiers and thieves.
3. "The fact is that only his paternal grandmother was Ukrainian. Chekhov was 1 quarter Ukrainian and 3 quarters russian."
I wrote to you information that I know. You are writing information that you probably came up with yourself.
4. "But it doesn't even matter. The very fact that he wrote in russian makes him part of the russian culture."
No it doesn't. You again support Russian Naz.is, orcs and occupiers.
Only a Ukrainian could write what Chekhov wrote and what you admire now. Russian writers by blood could not write this. Russians are orcs who can only worship their tsar.
5. "You can't cancel Checkov, you can't cancel Tolstoi, just because they are part of the russian culture."
I wrote that Chekhov was a Ukrainian, born on Ukrainian lands, spoke Ukrainian, but he wrote his works in Russian. Everything that Chekhov wrote belongs to the cultural heritage of Ukraine.
If a certain percentage of Ukrainians live in a area, it doesn't make that area Ukrainian. Ethnic spreads across borders are pretty common.The percentage of Ukrainians living makes the territory Ukrainian. This is an axiom.
Ukraine People's Republic had very ambitious territorial claims:There was a revolution in the Russian empire, this empire legally ceased to exist, it is logical that Ukraine fought a war for the territories where 80% of Ukrainians lived.
The percentage of Ukrainians living makes the territory Ukrainian. This is an axiom.
You probably personally really want Chekhov to be a Russian author. ;D
Don’t you want to read Ukrainian authors?
"Bulgakov (The Master and Margarita)"
This is a shame for Ukraine. It is not read in Ukraine. Only Russian orcs read it. He is a traitor of the Ukrainian literature.
"Bulgakov (The Master and Margarita)"
This is a shame for Ukraine. It is not read in Ukraine. Only Russian orcs read it. He is a traitor of the Ukrainian literature.
What? That's a great book! The whole world is reading it.
It looks like you don't only want to cancel russian authors who have nothing to do with putin, but you want to cancel Ukrainian authors too? Why? How did he offend your beliefs?
Bulgakov was understandably censored in the soviet union, why is he still censored in modern, democratic Ukraine?
Book burning much?
Unbelievable!
It looks like you don't only want to cancel russian authors who have nothing to do with putin
war with an evil empire...This is where you start thinking. This empire became like this because russia is an empire and because all its cultural figures worked for such an empire. Their cultural activities glorify evil. So why read such literature?
It looks like you don't only want to cancel russian authors who have nothing to do with putin
putin and all the other Russian orcs grew up on this Russian “literature”. The entire Russian empire rests on this “literature”. Therefore, all this “literature” should be banned.
Here is an idea, lets burn all those books.
O wait, someone e already had that idea of burning culture not so long ago. ;D
That's right, there were ideas! With your former allies. They have a mustachioed schizophrenic and you have a mustachioed bloodsucker with a withered hand. They had concentration camps and so do you. Now you also have “wonderful” allies - murderers and thugs. You are going the right way, “comrades”!
For 14 days, the Russians storm the Ukrainian city of Avdiivka. Every day in this direction the Ukrainian Armed Forces eliminate 1000 Russian orcs. Good statistics. ;D ;D ;D
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Elon Musk recommends to sacrifice Ukraine's integrity to avoid World War III
Billionaire Elon Musk believes that military conflicts in the Middle East and Ukraine could escalate into World War III, so the US should improve relations with Russia and persuade Ukraine to cease fire.
Quote from Musk: "We need to figure out peace in Ukraine, and I think we need to restore normal relations with Russia."
Details: Speaking at an online discussion on Twitter on 23 October, Musk suggested that "US policy has been forcing Russia to ally with Iran and China" and that an alliance of Russia, China and Iran could defeat the West in a global conflict.
According to Musk, a fierce confrontation with China and Russia would be catastrophic for the US, as Russia with its rich raw materials and China with its phenomenal industrial potential "is a formidable combination".
Musk believes that "civilization itself may be at stake", so the priority of US policy should be "avoiding World War 3" and preventing a situation of "a regional conflict rapidly becoming a global conflict".
Musk considers Ukraine's war against Russia to be a hopeless situation.
The billionaire called on the US to "figure out" a way to peace in Ukraine and "resume normal relations with Russia".
During the Spaces discussion, Musk suggested that there is no anti-Russian insurgency in the Russian-occupied "Russian-speaking areas of Ukraine", hinting that the current lines of control could be transformed into a ceasefire or permanent border.
Musk believes a ceasefire is possible because it makes no sense to force areas that supposedly want to be part of Russia to be a part of Ukraine. He is convinced that Russian-occupied eastern Ukraine and Crimea really want to be Russian.
The billionaire does not understand why soldiers of both countries die every day. In his opinion, Russia will not leave these lands, and Ukraine will not succeed with a smaller army, so a ceasefire is the best way out for the Ukrainian people.
US Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy also joined Musk at the Spaces session organised by venture capitalist David Sacks.
Ramaswamy echoed Musk's warnings about the possibility of global conflict, telling the audience that "if we do enter World War 3, the United States as we know it will cease to exist".
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza-palestinians/card/elon-musk-warns-world-war-iii-could-arise-from-current-conflicts-koZxzphSaEneTMg1HCxg (https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza-palestinians/card/elon-musk-warns-world-war-iii-could-arise-from-current-conflicts-koZxzphSaEneTMg1HCxg)
Tell this Russian KGB agent to better offer to give Alaska to the Russian orcs. After all, he is afraid of war, well, the Russians will be happy to leave Ukraine in exchange for Alaska. And then we'll see what US citizens do with this Musk.
>:(
Elon Musk recommends to sacrifice Ukraine's integrity to avoid World War III
Billionaire Elon Musk believes that military conflicts in the Middle East and Ukraine could escalate into World War III, so the US should improve relations with Russia and persuade Ukraine to cease fire.
Quote from Musk: "We need to figure out peace in Ukraine, and I think we need to restore normal relations with Russia."
Details: Speaking at an online discussion on Twitter on 23 October, Musk suggested that "US policy has been forcing Russia to ally with Iran and China" and that an alliance of Russia, China and Iran could defeat the West in a global conflict.
According to Musk, a fierce confrontation with China and Russia would be catastrophic for the US, as Russia with its rich raw materials and China with its phenomenal industrial potential "is a formidable combination".
Musk believes that "civilization itself may be at stake", so the priority of US policy should be "avoiding World War 3" and preventing a situation of "a regional conflict rapidly becoming a global conflict".
Musk considers Ukraine's war against Russia to be a hopeless situation.
The billionaire called on the US to "figure out" a way to peace in Ukraine and "resume normal relations with Russia".
During the Spaces discussion, Musk suggested that there is no anti-Russian insurgency in the Russian-occupied "Russian-speaking areas of Ukraine", hinting that the current lines of control could be transformed into a ceasefire or permanent border.
Musk believes a ceasefire is possible because it makes no sense to force areas that supposedly want to be part of Russia to be a part of Ukraine. He is convinced that Russian-occupied eastern Ukraine and Crimea really want to be Russian.
The billionaire does not understand why soldiers of both countries die every day. In his opinion, Russia will not leave these lands, and Ukraine will not succeed with a smaller army, so a ceasefire is the best way out for the Ukrainian people.
US Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy also joined Musk at the Spaces session organised by venture capitalist David Sacks.
Ramaswamy echoed Musk's warnings about the possibility of global conflict, telling the audience that "if we do enter World War 3, the United States as we know it will cease to exist".
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza-palestinians/card/elon-musk-warns-world-war-iii-could-arise-from-current-conflicts-koZxzphSaEneTMg1HCxg (https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza-palestinians/card/elon-musk-warns-world-war-iii-could-arise-from-current-conflicts-koZxzphSaEneTMg1HCxg)
Tell this Russian KGB agent to better offer to give Alaska to the Russian orcs. After all, he is afraid of war, well, the Russians will be happy to leave Ukraine in exchange for Alaska. And then we'll see what US citizens do with this Musk.
Just something odd in the news today.
"Black Lives Matter Grassroots stands in solidarity with our Palestinian family who are currently resisting 75 years of settler colonialism and apartheid."
https://twitter.com/blmgrassroots/status/1714005282807071196
The founder of Black Lives Matter Los Angeles has pledged allegiance to Palestine stating that the real enemy is the "Israeli apartheid regime."
Chicago: "Yesterday we sent out msgs that we aren’t proud of," BLM Chicago said in a post on X. "We stand with Palestine & the people who will do what they must to live free. Our hearts are with, the grieving mothers, those rescuing babies from rubble, who are in danger of being wiped out completely."
Somewhat troubling that the Marxists are still gaining support in their efforts to divide not only the country where they live, but create angry attacks on everyone "white".
We should be working to end racism and ethnic hate, but instead, the politics of some special interest groups like BLM are creating further division.
Just something odd in the news today.
"Black Lives Matter Grassroots stands in solidarity with our Palestinian family who are currently resisting 75 years of settler colonialism and apartheid."
https://twitter.com/blmgrassroots/status/1714005282807071196
Just something odd in the news today.
"Black Lives Matter Grassroots stands in solidarity with our Palestinian family who are currently resisting 75 years of settler colonialism and apartheid."
https://twitter.com/blmgrassroots/status/1714005282807071196
The founder of Black Lives Matter Los Angeles has pledged allegiance to Palestine stating that the real enemy is the "Israeli apartheid regime."
Annie2022, Is this your second account or are you the wrong Annie?
Why did you delete all your posts on the forum? Are you afraid of Russians?
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::) ::) ::)Annie2022, Is this your second account or are you the wrong Annie?
Why did you delete all your posts on the forum? Are you afraid of Russians?
:)
yes
We also need to check the version to see if he was recruited by the KGB.
Just something odd in the news today.
"Black Lives Matter Grassroots stands in solidarity with our Palestinian family who are currently resisting 75 years of settler colonialism and apartheid."
https://twitter.com/blmgrassroots/status/1714005282807071196
The founder of Black Lives Matter Los Angeles has pledged allegiance to Palestine stating that the real enemy is the "Israeli apartheid regime."
Chicago: "Yesterday we sent out msgs that we aren’t proud of," BLM Chicago said in a post on X. "We stand with Palestine & the people who will do what they must to live free. Our hearts are with, the grieving mothers, those rescuing babies from rubble, who are in danger of being wiped out completely."
Somewhat troubling that the Marxists are still gaining support in their efforts to divide not only the country where they live, but create angry attacks on everyone "white".
We should be working to end racism and ethnic hate, but instead, the politics of some special interest groups like BLM are creating further division.
Its not just BLM, its all around the world. Look at what is trending on Twitter this morning. 1million posts. British football clubs. Harvard students. Gen Z. All pro-Palestine.
https://twitter.com/search?q=Palestine&src=trend_click&vertical=trends
Just something odd in the news today.
"Black Lives Matter Grassroots stands in solidarity with our Palestinian family who are currently resisting 75 years of settler colonialism and apartheid."
https://twitter.com/blmgrassroots/status/1714005282807071196
Yeees! Fun things to do. I looked at their website and noticed one feature. Why are they all overweight? Is it because apartheid torments them?
And what does it mean "Black Lives Matter Grassroots"? This is pure racial discrimination! As far as I know, saying "Black" is illegal. It's correct to say African-American. Or did I understand something wrong?
What is it about the radical left, that makes them antisemitic?There is another version. Anti-Semitism appeared after Chr.ist was crucified. Chr.ist was crucified due to the fault of the Jews. Therefore, for centuries the Jews did not have their own country and for centuries anti-Simetism was strong. This is like God's punishment!
Just something odd in the news today.
"Black Lives Matter Grassroots stands in solidarity with our Palestinian family who are currently resisting 75 years of settler colonialism and apartheid."
https://twitter.com/blmgrassroots/status/1714005282807071196
The founder of Black Lives Matter Los Angeles has pledged allegiance to Palestine stating that the real enemy is the "Israeli apartheid regime."
Chicago: "Yesterday we sent out msgs that we aren’t proud of," BLM Chicago said in a post on X. "We stand with Palestine & the people who will do what they must to live free. Our hearts are with, the grieving mothers, those rescuing babies from rubble, who are in danger of being wiped out completely."
Somewhat troubling that the Marxists are still gaining support in their efforts to divide not only the country where they live, but create angry attacks on everyone "white".
We should be working to end racism and ethnic hate, but instead, the politics of some special interest groups like BLM are creating further division.
Its not just BLM, its all around the world. Look at what is trending on Twitter this morning. 1million posts. British football clubs. Harvard students. Gen Z. All pro-Palestine.
https://twitter.com/search?q=Palestine&src=trend_click&vertical=trends
Thanks for that insight. I'm kind of dumb to politics, I find it divides and creates anger, mostly as one group or another wants more power for their political agendas, ignoring the freedom and rights of others, to have opposing viewpoints.
The same questions are asked about how someone like "H" took over Germany, the people followed, which created so much hate. Or more recently "T" that got elected President, and people followed? Yet the antisemitic leanings of some modern groups, follow the same lines of just taking a side that has little to do with their own lives.
Every time I read how some Women's movement supports the enforced wearing of Hijabs, which is totally control based, ordered by men, not self deterministic feminists. How can supporting misogyny be tolerated? What is it about the radical left, that makes them antisemitic?
Soccer clubs, what does a persons religion or nation have to do with that? I suppose, going back, not too long ago, the country clubs were somewhat self segregated, not just by race, but also by religion. Some of that was, people who wanted to be with like minded others, but also, if one group couldn't be part of "the club", then they could form their own club.
I hope this isn't off topic. I know I started the thread, but it was just an off topic comment. I never expected it to snowball.
What is it about the radical left, that makes them antisemitic?There is another version. Anti-Semitism appeared after Chr.ist was crucified. Chr.ist was crucified due to the fault of the Jews. Therefore, for centuries the Jews did not have their own country and for centuries anti-Simetism was strong. This is like God's punishment!
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Both hamas and the russian government are terrorist organizations."
What we are left with is an extremely difficult and somewhat terrifying situation, especially now that many groups and countries across the world are responding exactly how Iran and Hamas possibly intended: that Palestinians are the victims, and Israel is the aggressor.
Yeah, and besides Jesus was a Jew!1. He might be a Jew, but according to religion he is God. God who was born among the Jews. And because of the Jews, he was crucified. This resulted in punishment.
Palestinians are the victims, and Israel is the aggressor.1. As far as I know, the Palestinians want the destruction of the state of Israel.
Palestinians are the victims, and Israel is the aggressor.1. As far as I know, the Palestinians want the destruction of the state of Israel.
2. Anti-Semitism is very strong on the planet, so Jews will always be to blame.
3. Israel's actions are correct, this Hamas poses a constant threat, so it will be eliminated.
4. The Russians also pose a threat, and therefore must also be eliminated.
The axis of all world evil has already been named: China, russia and Iran.
Anti-Semitism and being against genocide which Israeli Zionists are blatantly committing for decades against people of Palestine on their own land are two different things. They should peacefully accept that extermination of their children is the only way? Sure.
Billions of people and the majority of the worlds population support Palestine in their rightful goal for liberation and freedom on the land that was occupied by Europeans and given to foreign settlers imported from Europe.
Yeah, and besides Jesus was a Jew!1. He might be a Jew, but according to religion he is God. God who was born among the Jews. And because of the Jews, he was crucified. This resulted in punishment.
2. According to religion, the virgin birth occurred, which means Chr.ist was not a Jew.
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@Lizard
This is highly debatable.
Anti-Semitism and being against genocide which Israeli Zionists are blatantly committing for decades against people of Palestine on their own land are two different things. They should peacefully accept that extermination of their children is the only way? Sure.
Billions of people and the majority of the worlds population support Palestine in their rightful goal for liberation and freedom on the land that was occupied by Europeans and given to foreign settlers imported from Europe.
Facts are facts.I write about the facts, Jews are not loved anywhere, anti-Semitism is everywhere, they have not had their own country for thousands of years. And only thanks to the UN the Jews received their land, but as we see, this land is burning under their feet. And how can we not remember religion and God?
And a dislike Russian imperialism at same level as i do American, British, French, Spanish, Dutch.... .
Anti-Semitism and being against genocide which Israeli Zionists are blatantly committing for decades against people of Palestine on their own land are two different things. They should peacefully accept that extermination of their children is the only way? Sure.
Billions of people and the majority of the worlds population support Palestine in their rightful goal for liberation and freedom on the land that was occupied by Europeans and given to foreign settlers imported from Europe.
There are certainly good arguments from recent history against both Israel and the Palestinian Arabs - no one has covered themselves with glory here.
However, your argumentation contradicts some real historical facts.
Unfortunately you are in good company with people like Greta Thunberg. To me it shows that some schooling is not necessarily harmful ;)
The Jews are historically entrenched in the region, even before BC. There have also been some Jewish state-like entities in the region throughout history. The State of Israel was not established in the State of Palestine, but in the British protectorate after the breakup of the Ottoman Empire, before that Mamlyuk Islamic State of Egypt, before that the Empire of Ayubid, etc. There was no Palestinian state here until 1988.
Historically, Palestine is not a state, but a region on the Mediterranean Sea that was populated by Arabs, Christians and Jews. The state of Palestine was proclaimed only in 1988 by the PLO and then disintegrated itself through the dispute between Hamas and Fatah. There have been no elections here since 2006.
If Hamas had actually attacked only military installations, that would have been understandable in the historical context. We know that they did not. With October 7, however, HAMAS itself has moved the conflict to another dimension and is therefore responsible for the current catastrophic situation.
And a dislike Russian imperialism at same level as i do American, British, French, Spanish, Dutch.... .
It doesn't look like. What you obviously dislike is Ukraine's fight AGAINST russian colonialism. You constantly found excuses for putin's colonial invasion of Ukraine.
And if you dislike those western colonial empires, you should also dislike the Arab colonialism and its consequences.
Check my previous post: Arab Palestinians are not the ancient Aegean Palestinians/Philistines, but Arab settlers and conquerors.
And a dislike Russian imperialism at same level as i do American, British, French, Spanish, Dutch.... .
It doesn't look like. What you obviously dislike is Ukraine's fight AGAINST russian colonialism. You constantly found excuses for putin's colonial invasion of Ukraine.
And if you dislike those western colonial empires, you should also dislike the Arab colonialism and its consequences.
Check my previous post: Arab Palestinians are not the ancient Aegean Palestinians/Philistines, but Arab settlers and conquerors.
As I recall, you said leave the past lets talk whats going on now.
I don't see a word from you condemning the fact that Israeli killed more children in last 2 weeks than Putin in Ukraine and there are multiple post where I wrote against what he does calling him a psycho.
That, makes you a clear example of a hypocrite which values a child life by the citizenship on his birth certificate ;)
Not debatable at all
Nope.
Here you have it: I condemn from the bottom of my heart the killings of children and civilians by Israeli forces, even if provoked by hamas.
At the same time, hamas is a terrorist organization, and you should never justify their terror and killing of children and innocent civilians by referencing to some selective colonial past.
I was only arguing against your marxist view of the world, and lack of knowledge in the history of those lands.
I told you that the situation is highly debatable, but you said it's not.
"Not at all", you said. ::)
Now you realised that the situation is highly debatable, indeed. You even debate it yourself.
This is progress! Good job!
Anti-Semitism and being against genocide which Israeli Zionists are blatantly committing for decades against people of Palestine on their own land are two different things. They should peacefully accept that extermination of their children is the only way? Sure.
Billions of people and the majority of the worlds population support Palestine in their rightful goal for liberation and freedom on the land that was occupied by Europeans and given to foreign settlers imported from Europe.
There are certainly good arguments from recent history against both Israel and the Palestinian Arabs - no one has covered themselves with glory here.
However, your argumentation contradicts some real historical facts.
Unfortunately you are in good company with people like Greta Thunberg. To me it shows that some schooling is not necessarily harmful ;)
The Jews are historically entrenched in the region, even before BC. There have also been some Jewish state-like entities in the region throughout history. The State of Israel was not established in the State of Palestine, but in the British protectorate after the breakup of the Ottoman Empire, before that Mamlyuk Islamic State of Egypt, before that the Empire of Ayubid, etc. There was no Palestinian state here until 1988.
Historically, Palestine is not a state, but a region on the Mediterranean Sea that was populated by Arabs, Christians and Jews. The state of Palestine was proclaimed only in 1988 by the PLO and then disintegrated itself through the dispute between Hamas and Fatah. There have been no elections here since 2006.
If Hamas had actually attacked only military installations, that would have been understandable in the historical context. We know that they did not. With October 7, however, HAMAS itself has moved the conflict to another dimension and is therefore responsible for the current catastrophic situation.
The only one needs schooling is you ;)
Huge majority of people in Israel today are 2.-3. generation of European settlers.
HAMAS is not people of Palestine like Irish people were not IRA. And I don't recall Irish settlements bombed to the ground after actions IRA performed, do you ?
BTW, recent UN voting to stop all military actions there speaks clearly what people of the world want and how much Israeli actions are supported around the globe.
(https://ip.index.hr/remote/bucket.index.hr/b/index/fd197c4b-9964-4f9f-a2d3-e832f77100be.jpg?width=765&height=430)
Where did I write that Hamas is to be equated with the Palestinian population?Who is Hamas made up of? Hamas consists of Palestinians population.
Where did I write that Hamas is to be equated with the Palestinian population?Who is Hamas made up of? Hamas consists of Palestinians population.
I know. And what?Where did I write that Hamas is to be equated with the Palestinian population?Who is Hamas made up of? Hamas consists of Palestinians population.
You do know that over 1 million (about 20% of the population) Palestinian Arabs live largely peacefully in Israel with the Israelis?
This rotten-toothed “miracle” with a plucked beard has lived almost his entire life in Ukraine, has a Ukrainian passport - but considers himself russian.Shoot him. According to the laws of war.
This rotten-toothed “miracle” with a plucked beard has lived almost his entire life in Ukraine, has a Ukrainian passport - but considers himself russian.Shoot him. According to the laws of war.
In the temporarily occupied Volnovakha of Donetsk region, the russian occupiers killed 9 people in their own house, including a 4th-grade student and a preschool boy.The Russian army is committing genocide of the Ukrainian people. It includes both murders and deportation of Ukrainian children to the territory of russia.
Ukrainian journalist Denys Kazansky writes that local resident Nataliya Gorkun celebrated her birthday that day. The day before, her son-in-law Andrii Kapkanets quarreled with the "Kadyrivites" who tried to appropriate his house.
"The people of Kadyriv decided to take revenge. They broke right into the middle of a family feast and killed everyone who was present, including small children," writes Kazansky. https://t.me/kazansky2017/8784
russia has lost over 300,000 soldiers in Ukraine.
Glory to Ukraine!
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3780674-russian-military-death-toll-in-ukraine-rises-to-300810.html (https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3780674-russian-military-death-toll-in-ukraine-rises-to-300810.html)
But most of those destroyed are the dregs of society.Dregs of society, I consider 95% Russians. ;D ;D ;D
But most of those destroyed are the dregs of society.Dregs of society, I consider 95% Russians. ;D ;D ;D
A Hamas official on TV today, I'm afraid there's not much room for any negotiations or ceasefire:
https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1719662664090075199
A Hamas official on TV today, I'm afraid there's not much room for any negotiations or ceasefire:
https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1719662664090075199
I would like to know at least in a nutshell, so to speak, what the foreigner is talking about?
Eleven million views and still not in the news!!!
A Hamas official on TV today, I'm afraid there's not much room for any negotiations or ceasefire:
https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1719662664090075199
I would like to know at least in a nutshell, so to speak, what the foreigner is talking about?
Eleven million views and still not in the news!!!
I don't know, probably 2 wars with global impact is a bit too much input for society.
What worries me extremely is the danger from within from extremists. In GERMANY, there is increasing aggression against Jews, houses are smeared with Jewish stars. Jewish institutions were pelted with Molotov cocktails and must now be protected. History is forgotten.
The same situation in other European countries and the USA.
It's worth taking a look here:
https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites
In the USA, several doctors with Arabic roots have already been dismissed from their jobs because of disgusting anti-Semitic postings on social networks. Among them was a well-known vascular surgeon from Hollywood. At elite universities, Jewish students are openly threatened by fellow students. Frighteningly, it is not just an uneducated mob that is calling for an uprising here. Hatred of Jews seems to be very deeply rooted.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Yes, Ralf. Yes. War is difficult for you. In Europe they are firing ballistic missiles at peaceful cities. It’s your children, old people, women sleeping in their homes who are dying. It’s especially hard for you when you remember how satisfying and warm your life was with russian cheap gas. I really understand your difficulties.+100
Your “blue nose” doesn’t want to give missiles to Ukraine - then soon these missiles will be shoved up his ass. You, my friend, have played too much with tolerance and democracy. If democracy cannot defend itself, what . is democracy? Are you saying there is corruption in Ukraine? In Europe, corruption is a hundred times greater, and it is sophisticated. You apply sanctions to russia and continue to trade with it in roundabout ways. Did you think that when you appease the goblin with Georgia, Chechnya, Transnistria, he will become less militant? Ha, ha, ha! He is even more provoked by your greed and softness. History teaches Europe absolutely nothing.
No offense intended, but it’s interesting for me to watch how russia hits you remotely, and with your own weapon.
Yes, Ralf. Yes. War is difficult for you. In Europe they are firing ballistic missiles at peaceful cities. It’s your children, old people, women sleeping in their homes who are dying. It’s especially hard for you when you remember how satisfying and warm your life was with russian cheap gas. I really understand your difficulties.
Your “blue nose” doesn’t want to give missiles to Ukraine - then soon these missiles will be shoved up his ass. You, my friend, have played too much with tolerance and democracy. If democracy cannot defend itself, what . is democracy? Are you saying there is corruption in Ukraine? In Europe, corruption is a hundred times greater, and it is sophisticated. You apply sanctions to russia and continue to trade with it in roundabout ways. Did you think that when you appease the goblin with Georgia, Chechnya, Transnistria, he will become less militant? Ha, ha, ha! He is even more provoked by your greed and softness. History teaches Europe absolutely nothing.
No offense intended, but it’s interesting for me to watch how russia hits you remotely, and with your own weapon.
BTW, Russia hasn't hit us, we have the situation here very well under control.::) ::) ::) :'( :'( :'(
History proves it: russia is birthplace of Jewish pogrom.
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-society/3781257-history-proves-it-russia-is-birthplace-of-jewish-pogrom.html (https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-society/3781257-history-proves-it-russia-is-birthplace-of-jewish-pogrom.html)
I don't know, probably 2 wars with global impact is a bit too much input for society.
What worries me extremely is the danger from within from extremists. In GERMANY, there is increasing aggression against Jews, houses are smeared with Jewish stars. Jewish institutions were pelted with Molotov cocktails and must now be protected. History is forgotten.
The same situation in other European countries and the USA.
It's worth taking a look here:
https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites (https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites)
In the USA, several doctors with Arabic roots have already been dismissed from their jobs because of disgusting anti-Semitic postings on social networks. Among them was a well-known vascular surgeon from Hollywood. At elite universities, Jewish students are openly threatened by fellow students. Frighteningly, it is not just an uneducated mob that is calling for an uprising here. Hatred of Jews seems to be very deeply rooted.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
History proves it: russia is birthplace of Jewish pogrom.
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-society/3781257-history-proves-it-russia-is-birthplace-of-jewish-pogrom.html (https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-society/3781257-history-proves-it-russia-is-birthplace-of-jewish-pogrom.html)
Nah... Massacres of Jews go all the way back to the Mongol invasions (and beyond), before russia even existed, when the Catholic Church thought that they were one of the lost Jewish tribes mentioned in the Bible, returning to seek revenge... and that triggered the repression and the killing of many European Jews...
Even the Black Death plague was blamed on Jews, accused that they were poisoning the wells... and more killings of European Jews followed.
.....
It is a pity that Israel does not want to help Ukraine with weapons; ....
Scott Galloway's blog:
https://www.profgalloway.com/short-form-war/ (https://www.profgalloway.com/short-form-war/)
History proves it: russia is birthplace of Jewish pogrom.
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-society/3781257-history-proves-it-russia-is-birthplace-of-jewish-pogrom.html (https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-society/3781257-history-proves-it-russia-is-birthplace-of-jewish-pogrom.html)
Nah... Massacres of Jews go all the way back to the Mongol invasions (and beyond), before russia even existed, when the Catholic Church thought that they were one of the lost Jewish tribes mentioned in the Bible, returning to seek revenge... and that triggered the repression and the killing of many European Jews...
Even the Black Death plague was blamed on Jews, accused that they were poisoning the wells... and more killings of European Jews followed.
Nobody argues with this. The article contains a reference to Spain in the 15th century. But, if in other countries Jewish pogroms are not a national policy, then in the Russian Empire these pogroms have always been a national policy and at the present time too.
I recommend reading this article.
See the map with jews pogroms in Germany (as an example), again even before russia existed:We are also talking about modern russia. Nobody argues with the facts of history that you write about. But we live in the 21st century. An article about russia and its national policy directed against Jews.
1. I'm not a Na.zi......
It is a pity that Israel does not want to help Ukraine with weapons; ....
I know that you don't particularly value my opinion, especially as I live in the country of Russian Agent Merkel.
Nevertheless, a completely absurd thought probably occurs to me:
Couldn't it be that Israel needs its weapons itself for some reason?
But also some praise at this point:
I don't know anyone with such enthusiastic perseverance in defending his largely false statements for around 70 pages, without perhaps even once admitting a tiny mistake despite obvious evidence to the contrary.
Respect 8)
Have you read the article?
in Romania, Poland, Turkey, Germany...Are these countries now pursuing a national policy against Jews?
in Romania, Poland, Turkey, Germany...Are these countries now pursuing a national policy against Jews?
Yes, you can add Iran to russia.
An article about russia, about the history of national policy against Jews in russia, about the modern policy of Russians against Jews. This article is not about anti-Semitism around the world. You can write an article about this in other countries.
Is your goal to protect Russian Na.zis?
I don't see a point of contention for myself.
:)in Romania, Poland, Turkey, Germany...Are these countries now pursuing a national policy against Jews?
Yes, you can add Iran to russia.
An article about russia, about the history of national policy against Jews in russia, about the modern policy of Russians against Jews. This article is not about anti-Semitism around the world. You can write an article about this in other countries.
Is your goal to protect Russian Na.zis?
I don't see a point of contention for myself.
No.
I am disputing the article's claim that russia is the birthplace of Jewish massacres. This is not true.
Yes, russia is the root of evil today, while other countries learned from history.
But russia is not where anti-Semitic crimes began (i.e. birthplace).
You must learn to be objective if you want credibility. You have enough facts to declare russia a terrorist state.
You don't have to invent "alternative facts".
Scott Galloway's blog:
https://www.profgalloway.com/short-form-war/ (https://www.profgalloway.com/short-form-war/)
Thanks for the link Annie, find his views worth reading.
Scott Galloway's blog:
https://www.profgalloway.com/short-form-war/ (https://www.profgalloway.com/short-form-war/)
Thanks for the link Annie, find his views worth reading.
Thanks Ralf. I agree. I enjoy his commentaries on CNN as well, as they are based on stats and facts and not just conjecture.
Some of his commentaries are revealing and provocative. Here's one I found quickly.
https://youtu.be/3EsJhjBm6g8 (https://youtu.be/3EsJhjBm6g8)
Here's a really interesting one with Fareed about the middle east (keeping in my mind that this was recorded a month ago):
https://youtu.be/-h1XD7fQSfg (https://youtu.be/-h1XD7fQSfg)
Avdiivka. Ukraine.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces are liquidating Russian tanks. ;D ;D ;D
https://twitter.com/PulseOfUkraine/status/1720991470805471727 (https://twitter.com/PulseOfUkraine/status/1720991470805471727)
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“Everything will evaporate in a ball of fire”: the media simulated a nuclear strike on Moscow.
The United States is planning to develop a new nuclear bomb, the B61-13, which will be more powerful than the one dropped on Hiroshima. If it struck the capital of the Russian Federation, hundreds of thousands of people could die in an instant.
The new nuclear bomb, which is planned to be created in the United States, will be able to destroy more than 300 thousand Russians in Moscow.
https://www.newsweek.com/updated-us-nuclear-bomb-could-reach-new-targets-1840663 (https://www.newsweek.com/updated-us-nuclear-bomb-could-reach-new-targets-1840663)
possible nuclear war1. You're wrong.
Nuclear weapons are weapons that kill just as Russian artillery and Russian bombs kill people.
Nuclear weapons are weapons that kill just as russian artillery and russian bombs kill people.
Your postings now really leave me speechless.
Have you ever heard for example of stochastic DNA radiation damage?
You can still see pictures like this decades later after nuclear attack:
Nuclear weapons are weapons that kill just as russian artillery and russian bombs kill people.
Your postings now really leave me speechless.
Have you ever heard for example of stochastic DNA radiation damage?
You can still see pictures like this decades later after nuclear attack:
What Ralf, scary, yes!
But Margarita Simonyan is not afraid, and Dima Medvedev is not afraid. At all! 80% of russians shout at the top of their lungs: “We can repeat it!”, meaning the capture of Berlin, or the entry of moscow Cossacks into Paris. Do you know why cafes in Paris are called "Bistros"?
Have you seen the video where the russians install mock-up missiles on the roof and sign them: “To Berlin!” and drive around in these cars around Orc cities and shout into a megaphone: “Beat Geyropa!” And Schröder is not afraid either, and Merkel doesn’t give a *.
Why are you so scared?
It’s also not scary for Minister Germans, who so zealously cares about russian culture.
The IAEA is not afraid either, the UN is not afraid either, and the Olympic Committee is not afraid at all. Money, big money, relieves fear very well! ;D ;D ;D
Stoker equated nuclear with conventional weapons.For the people whom the Russians kill, it makes no difference whether they are killed within one year or whether they will be killed within a few days. Nuclear weapons are a quick-fix weapon. If the United States had not used nuclear weapons in Japan, the number of people killed by conventional weapons would have been much higher. You don't know history, you are exposed to Russian propaganda.
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“Everything will evaporate in a ball of fire”: the media simulated a nuclear strike on Moscow.
The United States is planning to develop a new nuclear bomb, the B61-13, which will be more powerful than the one dropped on Hiroshima. If it struck the capital of the Russian Federation, hundreds of thousands of people could die in an instant.
The new nuclear bomb, which is planned to be created in the United States, will be able to destroy more than 300 thousand Russians in Moscow.
https://www.newsweek.com/updated-us-nuclear-bomb-could-reach-new-targets-1840663 (https://www.newsweek.com/updated-us-nuclear-bomb-could-reach-new-targets-1840663)
A good video about the liquidation of Russian orcs in Ukraine. ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) 8)
Terrifying Moment Ukrainian Forces Destroy Russian Tank Convoy in Avdiivka
The Russians have suffered serious losses: at least 36 Russian tanks and armoured vehicles were destroyed in the week and according to the Kyiv Post, that figure has risen to 102 tanks and 150 armoured vehicles lost.
https://youtu.be/aAUU032MJbQ (https://youtu.be/aAUU032MJbQ)
President Biden as a "coward,"And who is he if not a coward?
President Biden as a "coward,"And who is he if not a coward?
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1. Is this topic about me? Do not ask personal questions to forum participants.President Biden as a "coward,"And who is he if not a coward?
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The man who has helped rally the world to aid your country.
Now, answer my question, what are you doing for the land you love?
Inglourious basterds, in the truest sense of the word! They thought that war was a computer game. Stupid, uneducated goofs!+100
https://youtu.be/zBXj1dp46PQ?si=a7JSB4VGAHE1rK2_
Video with English subtitles
Ukrainian kamikaze drone is hunting Russians. ;D
https://t.me/military_u/17815 (https://t.me/military_u/17815)
The Russian B_M-27 Uragan was liquidated by the Ukrainian Armed Forces along with its crew.. ;D 8)
https://t.me/operativnoZSU_chat/174712 (https://t.me/operativnoZSU_chat/174712)
There is very little military assistance to Ukraine from the EU. Probably the EU wants Russian tanks to drive on the roads of the European Union in the near future?...
Let's not talk about Germany. In this chart, Germany is highlighted separately.There is very little military assistance to Ukraine from the EU. Probably the EU wants Russian tanks to drive on the roads of the European Union in the near future?...
That is because the EU is not a military organisation and it does not have an army. Therefore, EU institutions can offer primarily financial aid.
Military assistance must come from the member states of the EU directly and they do provide this assistance, most notably Germany with 18 Billion Dollar worth of military aid, according to the graph.
This is the Russian army. Drug addicts, alcoholics, orcs.
https://t.me/nevzorovtv/12270?single (https://t.me/nevzorovtv/12270?single)
+100This is the Russian army. Drug addicts, alcoholics, orcs.
https://t.me/nevzorovtv/12270?single (https://t.me/nevzorovtv/12270?single)
The most interesting thing, looking at this video, is that the orcs get great pleasure from the execution. They like it. This is their centuries-old tradition and this is their real, true culture. Many people harbor the illusion of humanizing this cattle - they say that only Putin is to blame for everything :) Fools!
When orcs find themselves in another society, they sincerely suffer. They really miss a stall, fresh manure and a biting whip.
Please don't take away their natural habitat!
Otherwise, you yourself will suffer from this.
Russian orcs publicly beat people because of their skin color.It is always better to listen to the people themselves, and not to “journalists” who fled their country, working for anti-Russian propaganda, and fabricating sensations from snippets of other people’s videos. Unsightly incidents occur in every country, but it is important to look at the situation as a whole. According to the latest census, representatives of 195 nations live in the Russian Federation. Without friendly relations between peoples in this multinational country, the existence of Russia would be impossible.
195 nations live in the Russian Federation.... colonized/occupied by russia.
... colonized/occupied by russia.Perhaps you meant America, which was occupied by England, France, Portugal and Spain, by committing genocide against the indigenous population? And to which these countries brought slaves from Africa they colonized?
No, I meant russia, the last colonial empire of modern days...... colonized/occupied by russia.Perhaps you meant America, which was occupied by England, France, Portugal and Spain, by committing genocide against the indigenous population? And to which these countries brought slaves from Africa they colonized?
Before you say something bad about Russia, first look in your historical mirror.
The truth hurts, don't it?
No
The truth hurts, don't it?
No
crimes you accept.Please don't make up things for me that I never said.
... colonized/occupied by russia.Perhaps you meant America, which was occupied by England, France, Portugal and Spain, by committing genocide against the indigenous population? And to which these countries brought slaves from Africa they colonized?
Before you say something bad about Russia, first look in your historical mirror.
So your finger should not point at the history of other countries, but only and exclusively at your own government.And this comes from a man who himself cannot point a finger at his government, which knows, but is afraid to name the terrorist country that committed the terrorist attack on Nord Stream and deprived his country of cheap, environmentally friendly fuel.
As a Russian, you can support this or distance yourself clearly from it.Regarding this issue, it doesn’t matter what nationality I am. I have lived and visited many countries. I have always said that I am against any war.
entire Russian nation has exclusively bad qualities.+100
So your finger should not point at the history of other countries, but only and exclusively at your own government.And this comes from a man who himself cannot point a finger at his government, which knows, but is afraid to name the terrorist country that committed the terrorist attack on Nord Stream and deprived his country of cheap, environmentally friendly fuel.As a Russian, you can support this or distance yourself clearly from it.Regarding this issue, it doesn’t matter what nationality I am. I have lived and visited many countries. I have always said that I am against any war.
Of course, all Russians, including Putin, are against war. Let me remind you that only a special operation is taking place in Ukraine ;)
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Of course, all Russians, including Putin, are against war. Let me remind you that only a special operation is taking place in Ukraine ;)
Yes, this is exactly right.
No russian is pro-war, but a vast majority is pro-"special operation". ::)
Even our colleague, zastavkin, who believes himself as anti-war, is pretty much pro-"special operation", based on how he is defending today's russian colonial imperialism through #whataboutism :(
I no longer want to spend my vacation in an area where there are also Russians.Russians are a nation of terrorists. russia is a terrorist country. Better stop trading with russia, incl. and through other countries. Don't let Russians into your country.
Yes, this is what happened.... among other things.
Again this is your way of conveniently selecting events that support your opinion, while neglecting what's not. In other words, propaganda.
195 nations live in the Russian Federation.... colonized/occupied by russia.
As always, I will also write that Russian stockers should be banned from all stock agencies and payment systems.Another Na.zi bullsh.it?
Again you ran on the other side of the history trying to mask the most relevant historical facts about the matter.
I insist, according to the facts I wrote ( and nobody here choose to school me ) and I gave yall enough time to correct me...
So under "INTERNATIONAL LAW" Arabs have gained sole right to control the peninsula and more, and yet the area is being unlawfully controlled by terrorist groups supported and financed. this time not by the west cause even EU puppet states don't support that s.hit, but anymore but an US project.
Also Zionism was officially declared by UN Resolution 3379 as a form of racial discrimination. One more time by the UN. So why is the biggest democracy in the world supporting the ones that the WORLD considers racists and their NA.ZI terrorist army targeting children and hospitals ?
https://twitter.com/SpencerGuard/status/1731761693737308427The Russians act in exactly the same way in Ukraine. And even more. If several thousand people killed in Israel, then in Ukraine several hundred thousand killed.
Today's events are not about the history of the last centuries, but about the events of October 7, 2023.
Here is a good summary of the events. I saw many of the videos mentioned, most of which have since been removed, myself on the weekend in question.
https://twitter.com/SpencerGuard/status/1731761693737308427
https://twitter.com/SpencerGuard/status/1731761693737308427 (https://twitter.com/SpencerGuard/status/1731761693737308427)The Russians act in exactly the same way in Ukraine. And even more. If several thousand people killed in Israel, then in Ukraine several hundred thousand killed.
Today's events are not about the history of the last centuries, but about the events of October 7, 2023.
Here is a good summary of the events. I saw many of the videos mentioned, most of which have since been removed, myself on the weekend in question.
https://twitter.com/SpencerGuard/status/1731761693737308427
I don't agree, its about historical genocide and ethnic cleansing and the Zionist terrorists are not even trying to deny it in front of the world.
We are talking about the people considering themselves higher cast chosen by God and others are here to serve them. Sounds familiar ?
As radical as it gets
In the meantime, I hope that all travel restrictions for Europe will remain in place for the next few decades.It is too little. ;D ;D ;D
Today's events are not about the history of the last centuries, but about the events of October 7, 2023.
Here is a good summary of the events. I saw many of the videos mentioned, most of which have since been removed, myself on the weekend in question.
https://twitter.com/SpencerGuard/status/1731761693737308427
I don't agree, its about historical genocide and ethnic cleansing and the Zionist terrorists are not even trying to deny it in front of the world.
We are talking about the people considering themselves higher cast chosen by God and others are here to serve them. Sounds familiar ?
As radical as it gets
Wow, no arguments and a lot of strong words, which you obviously do not understand, in one sentence (Genocide, ethnic cleansing, Zionist terrorists) - but not a word about the events on October 7.
Not a word about the fact that Hamas not only wants to wipe out the state of Israel, but all Jews worldwide. This is announced genocide before all eyes.
If the more than 1000 Hamas fighters had attacked military facilities in Israel, then that would still be somehow explainable in the overall conflict. However, the barbaric acts of October 7 are not.
When I started in this thread, I claimed that you can't lump all Russians together.
In the meantime, I hope that all travel restrictions for Europe will remain in place for the next few decades. But North Korea is said to have cool surf locations and Iran is very attractive in summer if you wrap your wife up well from top to bottom.
Iran is very attractive in summer if you wrap your wife up well from top to bottom.
Hamas not only wants to wipe out the state of Israel, but all Jews worldwide. This is announced genocide before all eyes.
Hamas not only wants to wipe out the state of Israel, but all Jews worldwide. This is announced genocide before all eyes.
Blatant lie or deep need of schooling.
I hadn't previously realised that Croatians hated Germany so much.
Some of your remarks, including your choice of words, are really low class.
I hadn't previously realised that Croatians hated Germany so much.
Some of your remarks, including your choice of words, are really low class.
And your racial remarks on wrapping wives is a pure example of class right ?
I hadn't previously realised that Croatians hated Germany so much.
Some of your remarks, including your choice of words, are really low class.
And your racial remarks on wrapping wives is a pure example of class right ?
That was an allusion to completely veiled women in Iran - perhaps it didn't quite come across.
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Fell free to support it, but f..k off from my right to speak the truth. 50% of people they killed were children and that's a genocidal plan.
Sure, you want genocide statements from UN sources, WHO, Doctors without Borders, Amnesty International or any other human right association claiming Israel is committing a genocide and aiming children ?
:D
We all remember how the terrorists screamed about the destroyed hospital, but in fact it turned out that the hospital was not destroyed, the rocket did not hit the building but the road, and the rocket was fired by the terrorists themselves.
Sure, you want genocide statements from UN sources, WHO, Doctors without Borders, Amnesty International or any other human right association claiming Israel is committing a genocide and aiming children ?
:D
The situation is already catastrophic enough, so why is it necessary to spread false reports?
If it's your opinion that genocide is being committed here, then so be it.
However, I know of no official statement from the WHO or Doctors Without Borders as organization accusing Israel of genocide or the targeted killing of children.
The fact that war crimes are possibly being committed here or the reference to a humanitarian disaster is something else, but not genocide.
We all remember how the terrorists screamed about the destroyed hospital, but in fact it turned out that the hospital was not destroyed, the rocket did not hit the building but the road, and the rocket was fired by the terrorists themselves.
I don't want to play down the suffering of the civilian population in general.
Sure, you want genocide statements from UN sources, WHO, Doctors without Borders, Amnesty International or any other human right association claiming Israel is committing a genocide and aiming children ?
:D
The situation is already catastrophic enough, so why is it necessary to spread false reports?
If it's your opinion that genocide is being committed here, then so be it.
However, I know of no official statement from the WHO or Doctors Without Borders as organization accusing Israel of genocide or the targeted killing of children.
The fact that war crimes are possibly being committed here or the reference to a humanitarian disaster is something else, but not genocide.
Lats ask the experts...
Raz Segal, the program director of genocide studies at Stockton University, concretely says it is a “textbook case of genocide.” Segal believes that Israeli forces are completing three genocidal acts, including, “killing, causing serious bodily harm, and measures calculated to bring about the destruction of the group.” He points to the mass levels of destruction and total siege of basic necessities—like water, food, fuel, and medical supplies—as evidence.
https://time.com/6334409/is-whats-happening-gaza-genocide-experts/ (https://time.com/6334409/is-whats-happening-gaza-genocide-experts/)
Lets se what Dr Christos Christou, MSF International president has to say about the situation in Gaza:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSrJKWxj53U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSrJKWxj53U)
Sure, you want genocide statements from UN sources, WHO, Doctors without Borders, Amnesty International or any other human right association claiming Israel is committing a genocide and aiming children ?
:D
The situation is already catastrophic enough, so why is it necessary to spread false reports?
If it's your opinion that genocide is being committed here, then so be it.
However, I know of no official statement from the WHO or Doctors Without Borders as organization accusing Israel of genocide or the targeted killing of children.
The fact that war crimes are possibly being committed here or the reference to a humanitarian disaster is something else, but not genocide.
Lats ask the experts...
Raz Segal, the program director of genocide studies at Stockton University, concretely says it is a “textbook case of genocide.” Segal believes that Israeli forces are completing three genocidal acts, including, “killing, causing serious bodily harm, and measures calculated to bring about the destruction of the group.” He points to the mass levels of destruction and total siege of basic necessities—like water, food, fuel, and medical supplies—as evidence.
https://time.com/6334409/is-whats-happening-gaza-genocide-experts/ (https://time.com/6334409/is-whats-happening-gaza-genocide-experts/)
Lets se what Dr Christos Christou, MSF International president has to say about the situation in Gaza:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSrJKWxj53U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSrJKWxj53U)
Completely irrelevant. I could now quote other experts who see it differently - but that's a waste of time.
On topic. You simply claimed that several aid organizations you named accuse Israel of genocide as you see it. I caught you bungling and now you're pulling new sources out of your hat as a matter of course.
The next day in daylight you see a completely intact hospital, only a few cars in the central parking lot have crashed and burned due to a misguided missile part.
But as I said, I'm not surprised knowing most of Germans always stand on the wrong side of the history. That's why they have to swallow whats being served from the masters.
The next day in daylight you see a completely intact hospital, only a few cars in the central parking lot have crashed and burned due to a misguided missile part.
And yet another blatant lie:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8e6aHZXkAAWHo-?format=jpg&name=large)
But as I said, I'm not surprised knowing most of Germans always stand on the wrong side of the history. That's why they have to swallow whats being served from the masters.
Did I insult Croatians because you are one? No. I focused on the topic.
I hadn't previously realised that Croatians hated Germany so much.
Some of your remarks, including your choice of words, are really low class.
And your racial remarks on wrapping wives is a pure example of class right ?
Just another differing opinion from a Swiss historian Dr. Daniele Ganser: Die USA und der Ukrainekrieg (Basel 2.9.2023)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0XPCjudZxk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0XPCjudZxk)
Ganser is a star of the conspiracy theorist scene.No, he's just a motherfucker. Or rather, an agent of Russian Na.zis, lying for Russian money. Actually, it’s not surprising that Russian trolls are spreading his lies. And there are a lot of such Russian agents in democratic countries. Democratic countries are under threat as long as this freak is given the right to spread Russian propaganda.
That's exactly right. Democracy is truly in danger when people who consider themselves democrats want to decide who can speak and what can be said.
In Russia, you are supposed to go to prison for expressing a critical opinion.
Ganser is allowed to appear everywhere here, spread his opinion and sell his books. Yes, that's what you call democracy.
Democracy is under threat as long as this freak is given the right to spread Russian propaganda.You guys should first figure out among yourselves what you consider democratic and what you don’t.
As for me, I don't see democracy ANYWHERE on the Planet.
That's too bad, because then we cannot count on you to defend democracy where it does exist, even if it may not be perfect.Russians don't defend democracy, Russians kill it. Moreover, they kill in different ways, including propaganda. When the USSR was behind the iron curtain, the Russians did not have the opportunity to spread evil in civilized countries. Now the Russians have the Internet, and they spread lies and evil all over the world.
That's exactly right. Democracy is truly in danger when people who consider themselves democrats want to decide who can speak and what can be said.
In Russia, you are supposed to go to prison for expressing a critical opinion.
Ganser is allowed to appear everywhere here, spread his opinion and sell his books. Yes, that's what you call democracy.
I hadn't previously realised that Croatians hated Germany so much.
Some of your remarks, including your choice of words, are really low class.
And your racial remarks on wrapping wives is a pure example of class right ?
I don't see any racist remarks here.
I see Ralf's statement as a reference to the oppression of women by a patriarchy that has prevailed for thousands of years in many countries around the world.
Who gives men the right to dictate to women that they must cover themselves or wear a headscarf, while the men who dictate this are allowed to walk around as they please?
If women want to cover up or wear a headscarf, that should be their right and their free choice. If they want to decide against it, they should also have the right to do so.
Narges Mohammadi has just been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for fighting for women's rights.
There are countries where women and girls are forbidden to go to school, to a soccer stadium, to a public park... Is that fair??? Is it okay that just because you were born a woman, you are not allowed to participate in the same things that men love to participate in???
What do you think about this?
As for me, I don't see democracy ANYWHERE on the Planet.
That's too bad, because then we cannot count on you to defend democracy where it does exist, even if it may not be perfect.
That's exactly right. Democracy is truly in danger when people who consider themselves democrats want to decide who can speak and what can be said.
In Russia, you are supposed to go to prison for expressing a critical opinion.
Ganser is allowed to appear everywhere here, spread his opinion and sell his books. Yes, that's what you call democracy.
And in US you can go to prison for telling the truth or jailed without a single proof.
EU Commission is the highest authority in EU and not a single one those people have NEVER been elected by the people of Europe and nobody even know the procedure to become a part of that. Judging by the Baroso and similar examples the titles are being inherited.
Pure example of totalitarianism under the veil of democracy.
Fist of all he said to take OUR wife's and wrap them.
I hadn't previously realised that Croatians hated Germany so much.
Some of your remarks, including your choice of words, are really low class.
And your racial remarks on wrapping wives is a pure example of class right ?
I don't see any racist remarks here.
I see Ralf's statement as a reference to the oppression of women by a patriarchy that has prevailed for thousands of years in many countries around the world.
Who gives men the right to dictate to women that they must cover themselves or wear a headscarf, while the men who dictate this are allowed to walk around as they please?
If women want to cover up or wear a headscarf, that should be their right and their free choice. If they want to decide against it, they should also have the right to do so.
Narges Mohammadi has just been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for fighting for women's rights.
There are countries where women and girls are forbidden to go to school, to a soccer stadium, to a public park... Is that fair??? Is it okay that just because you were born a woman, you are not allowed to participate in the same things that men love to participate in???
What do you think about this?
Fist of all he said to take OUR wife's and wrap them.
Secondly, most of those regimes were founded and extremists were trained by US army even on US ground and brought to power to destroy the governments that refused to sell oil in USD to water their inflation on the whole world.
What do you think about that ?
in some countries around the world women and girls have to cover themselves completely, are not allowed to go to schoolIt's so cold in my city now that not only women, but also men have to completely wrap themselves in warm clothes to avoid freezing)) And children are allowed not to go to school due to severe frost.
in some countries around the world women and girls have to cover themselves completely, are not allowed to go to schoolIt's so cold in my city now that not only women, but also men have to completely wrap themselves in warm clothes to avoid freezing)) And children are allowed not to go to school due to severe frost.
Winter video of my city from the boy Sasha Porosin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXZTaVgipbQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXZTaVgipbQ)
"some different opinions" on the reasons to cover themselves completely. Don't be so serious and relax.
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In my opinion, a lot of attention is paid to Russian trolls in this topic.Certainly! It is better to pay more attention to the persona of the clown Ze and the Na-zi slogans of the TSIPSO agent.
Or are you saying that the USA is to blame for the fact that in some countries around the world women and girls have to cover themselves completely, are not allowed to go to school, are not allowed to enter parks, etc.?
"some different opinions" on the reasons to cover themselves completely. Don't be so serious and relax.
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In the context of the accusation of racism against Ralf and the systematic oppression of women "because of God's law", you will understand why I had to put a ? after your post. You seem to have completely missed the point.
Women who resist, take off their headscarves and shout "woman, life, freedom" are just "prostitutes" from the government's point of view, who must be raped. God's law says so."In the Arab world, women are stoned or doused with sulfuric acid.
Biden! Where are the rockets? Where is the aviation? Where are the shells?
Why should Ukraine defend all of Europe from Russian orcs without the necessary weapons?
Assh.ole.
>:( >:( >:(
Sorry, but you still don't get it, do you? ::)What do Republicans and Trump have to do with it anyway? All these fairy tales and excuses are designed for people who are not in the know at all. You read your German official press, but you do not hear what I have been writing here for many months.
When will you finally understand this???
No. It's exactly to other way around.
You are completely out of touch with what is really happening.
Biden is assh.ole. And not because now the Republicans temporarily do not want to allocate the money that Biden is asking for. But because he has not supplied the necessary weapons to Ukraine for 2 years. I have already written about this many times and you know what I wrote.No. It's exactly to other way around.
You are completely out of touch with what is really happening.
You refuse to see the reality when it goes against your deep-rooted convictions.
I noticed that you are often quoting from The Washington Post.
Here is a WP quote you should make efforts to understand.
Biden
And there are a lot of such useful idiots in Europe. Which is what the Russians use.
Biden sings beautiful songs. Only his words weigh and cost very little. He knows how to speak, he learned it throughout his life. I called Biden what I called him, without reference to the situation that is now happening in Congress. Of course, the Russians will be happy if Ukraine gets nothing at all. Zero. But all this does not change the fact that Biden is assh.ole.Biden
(https://www.microstockgroup.com/off-topic/this-should-settle-some-different-opinions/?action=dlattach;attach=20325;image)
All western europeans have better lives than any american. In fact, our perception is that your lives are crap. If you ask a french or an spaniard they will say that the USA is like the 3rd world for them and would never live there. Is not hate or anti-americanism, it's life. We all hate your goverments and companies, not people, americans are nice. But we have cool nations to lose in a war (with all our crap and problems). Maybe you don't.
You should understand a couple of things:
All western europeans have better lives than any American. In fact, our perception is that your lives are crap. If you ask a french or an spaniard they will say that the USA is like the 3rd world for them and would never live there.
;D
All western europeans have better lives than any american. In fact, our perception is that your lives are crap. If you ask a french or an spaniard they will say that the USA is like the 3rd world for them and would never live there. Is not hate or anti-americanism, it's life. We all hate your goverments and companies, not people, americans are nice. But we have cool nations to lose in a war (with all our crap and problems). Maybe you don't.
How did you come to this extraordinary conclusion?
Biden sings beautiful songs. Only his words weigh and cost very little. He knows how to speak, he learned it throughout his life. I called Biden what I called him, without reference to the situation that is now happening in Congress. Of course, the Russians will be happy if Ukraine gets nothing at all. Zero. But all this does not change the fact that Biden is assh.ole.
He is not up to the task of leading the entire democratic world. His lot is to speak beautiful speeches on camera.
I am grateful to the U.S. for its unwavering support for Ukraine, including $200 million military aid package announced today.What would you understand everything, this money is enough only for 3-5 days of military operations with the Russians.
I sometimes begin to think that Ukraine needs to stop resisting the Russians, and let them through its territory to the EU. Maybe then citizens of the EU countries will begin to understand that Biden is Assh.ole.
I am grateful to the U.S. for its unwavering support for Ukraine, including $200 million military aid package announced today.What would you understand everything, this money is enough only for 3-5 days of military operations with the Russians.
For comparison, the United States spent $ 300 million a day on the maintenance of its army in Afghanistan. And with whom did they fight in Afghanistan? With the partisans, the Taliban, who did not have tanks, there were no aviation, artillery, and there was no much other.
Compare the number of Taliban soldiers and the number of Russian orcs advancing to Ukraine.
You either do not really understand what you write and what you read, or think that Ukrainians are idiots.
And how did the US military operation in Afghanistan end under Biden? I'll tell you, the shameful flight of the Americans. The United States abandoned people who collaborated with them, abandoned all allies into the hands of terrorists. Republicans talk about this all the time. And Trump himself will use this argument in his election campaign and he will be right.
So who else is Biden if not Assh.ole?
You should understand a couple of things:
All western europeans have better lives than any american. In fact, our perception is that your lives are crap. If you ask a french or an spaniard they will say that the USA is like the 3rd world for them and would never live there.
I sometimes begin to think that Ukraine needs to stop resisting the Russians, and let them through its territory to the EU. Maybe then citizens of the EU countries will begin to understand that Biden is Assh.ole.
Winning a battle does not mean winning the war. I'm not even talking about the loss of people, the environment, factories, cities, and destruction.I sometimes begin to think that Ukraine needs to stop resisting the Russians, and let them through its territory to the EU. Maybe then citizens of the EU countries will begin to understand that Biden is Assh.ole.Take a deep breath and think.
Even without our support, Ukraine could not be defeated as planned.
You yourself always proudly post the Russian losses here.
Russia has lost a large proportion of its ground troops and a considerable number of tanks.
Out of this situation, now a war against NATO? :o :o :o
Again, you don't get how a democratic government works.1. I did not campaign for Trump or the Republicans.
The POTUS can only do so much without Congress approval. This is not a dictatorship.
For more aid, the POTUS needs approval from congress, where he has to deal with your beloved the anti-Ukraine republicans, who blocked everything.
The fact that both you and the russian trolls are trolling Biden, while praising the Republicans, should make you think twice.Unlike the Russians, I don’t troll Biden, I write about him what I think about him. And not only me, but also military experts think so.
Trump has made it very clear that "America First" is his credo. He also made it clear that he does not consider military aid for Europe and further participation in NATO to be particularly important. I have never heard anything comparable from Biden.I don't see any difference between Trump and Biden. The first one says that he will not give anything to anyone. And the second one says that he will give, but in fact does not give what is necessary and does not introduce normal sanctions. No difference. You live in a world of illusions that your TV offers you. The reality is actually different, and the closer you are to Ukraine, the better you will see the reality.
Even if you don't understand it or don't want to understand it, your tone towards Biden is blatant. When the time comes - and I very much fear that it will - I am curious to see what you will write about Trump and whether your opinion of Biden will change dramatically. I know you don't believe me. But you'll see what happens. Trump makes the deal and Ukraine will be much smaller than before. And Trump will celebrate it. And then announce that Putin is a tough guy.1. With the help provided by the United States and NATO, Ukraine under President Biden is losing the war, losing people and territories.
You live in a world of illusions that your TV offers you. The reality is actually different, and the closer you are to Ukraine, the better you will see the reality.
All the world's democratic media are controlled from a common center. I see on this topic how easily Biden was able to fool everyone and make the Republicans guilty.
You live in a world of illusions that your TV offers you. The reality is actually different, and the closer you are to Ukraine, the better you will see the reality.
Whenever one hopes that you're having a light moment, you throw out some unnecessary nonsense.
How . do you know where everyone here gets their information?
I find that very presumptuous of you.
You obviously have no idea about the German media either. All opinions are represented here across the board, including open criticism of our own government, Israel or the USA. If you have no idea, then maybe you shouldn't even bring up the subject.
And the idea that Ukraine should only spread the truth here is more than naive.
Whenever one hopes that you're having a light moment,I publish various information. And even in a bad situation, Ukraine can eliminate many Russian orcs. This is always good news. ;D ;D ;D
All the world's democratic media are controlled from a common center. I see on this topic how easily Biden was able to fool everyone and make the Republicans guilty.
NATO nation Germany is on the brink of declaring an emergency. German chancellor Olaf Scholz told the parliament that emergency would have to be declared in wake of military aid to Ukraine if situation there doesn't improve by next year.
https://youtu.be/9SW6VkNxLFE (https://youtu.be/9SW6VkNxLFE)
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I see that, unlike the Germans on this forum, Scholz understands what the occupation of Ukraine will lead to.
So, Germans, your leader is friends with his head. Get ready to all work for the military industry and send weapons to Ukraine.
Not a single quote fell like that or is taken completely out of context. The term emergency is related to special funds, state budget and debt brake to justify it constitutionally. The emergency situation includes not only Ukraine, but also the Israel conflict, the climate crisis and other things.:o ??? ::) :'( :'( :'(
;D ;D ;DAll the world's democratic media are controlled from a common center. I see on this topic how easily Biden was able to fool everyone and make the Republicans guilty.
yeah, yeah.. an international cabal, a pedophile elite is controlling the world! We know that already from QAnon & Co!
It's funny that in some contexts Biden is considered an old senile fool, but in other contexts, he is a mastermind able to fool everybody, except for stoker2014 and maybe a handful of other "smart" people ;D
All the world's democratic media are controlled from a common center. I see on this topic how easily Biden was able to fool everyone and make the Republicans guilty.
You live in a world of illusions that your TV offers you. The reality is actually different, and the closer you are to Ukraine, the better you will see the reality.
Whenever one hopes that you're having a light moment, you throw out some unnecessary nonsense.
How . do you know where everyone here gets their information?
I find that very presumptuous of you.
You obviously have no idea about the German media either. All opinions are represented here across the board, including open criticism of our own government, Israel or the USA. If you have no idea, then maybe you shouldn't even bring up the subject.
And the idea that Ukraine should only spread the truth here is more than naive.
I sometimes begin to think that Ukraine needs to stop resisting the Russians, and let them through its territory to the EU. Maybe then citizens of the EU countries will begin to understand that Biden is Assh.ole.
Just don’t draw hasty conclusions from my words. So far, I have not seen any criticism of Biden's policies over the past 2 years in the Democratic press. Why? Is Biden so good?All the world's democratic media are controlled from a common center. I see on this topic how easily Biden was able to fool everyone and make the Republicans guilty.
You live in a world of illusions that your TV offers you. The reality is actually different, and the closer you are to Ukraine, the better you will see the reality.
Whenever one hopes that you're having a light moment, you throw out some unnecessary nonsense.
How . do you know where everyone here gets their information?
I find that very presumptuous of you.
You obviously have no idea about the German media either. All opinions are represented here across the board, including open criticism of our own government, Israel or the USA. If you have no idea, then maybe you shouldn't even bring up the subject.
And the idea that Ukraine should only spread the truth here is more than naive.
Yes, this is exactly, what russian trolls and their autocratic friends are spreading all over the globe! And now you are one of those who believes in that rubbish! Putin will celebrate you! ::)
I am not discussing democracy and how it works in this thread. And it works really bad. At this rate, soon all of Europe will be under Russian occupation.I sometimes begin to think that Ukraine needs to stop resisting the Russians, and let them through its territory to the EU. Maybe then citizens of the EU countries will begin to understand that Biden is Assh.ole.
Are you aware that Putin supported Trump in the US elections? Did you ever wonder why? You should read a little bit and think about it!
And from my point of view you should read a little bit about democracy - what that is, how it works and so on.
;D
All western europeans have better lives than any american. In fact, our perception is that your lives are crap. If you ask a french or an spaniard they will say that the USA is like the 3rd world for them and would never live there. Is not hate or anti-americanism, it's life. We all hate your goverments and companies, not people, americans are nice. But we have cool nations to lose in a war (with all our crap and problems). Maybe you don't.
How did you come to this extraordinary conclusion?
He is a useful idiot who listens to Russian propaganda.
Has everyone seen the new movie, Leave the World Behind, recently released on Netflix? Its based on a best-seller book and 2 of its Executive Producers are Michelle and Barack Obama.American apocalyptic psychological thriller.
I watched it last night because I wanted to know what does Michelle and Barack Obama want us to know?
The answers are pretty much relevant to some of the discussions on this thread.
My interpretation of the messages of the film:Well, now it’s clear what Obama has been doing and continues to do. The enemies of the United States have all been united for a long time and the third world war has been going on for 10 years. Wake up!
"Make peace, not war. Trust your neighbours. America has a lot of enemies, what would happen if they all ganged up together?"
Well, I’m not writing to Biden in diplomatic language. Biden fuck, where is the aviation?
Well, I’m not writing to Biden in diplomatic language. Biden fuck, where is the aviation?
You better save your faking energy. ;)
You will be forced to perform "yuge" amounts of faking, when trump and his maga republican cult will cut all support for Ukraine and serve it on silver platter to putin.
Meanwhile, Ukraine can't fly its already donated F16s, without proper training. A small reminder for you:
"In November 2023, Romania opened a training center for Ukrainian pilots to learn how to fly F-16 fighter jets"
Or, instead of faking your friends, you should focus your faking on putin's servants and useful idiots: trump, maga republicans, Hungary (and Orban, especially), Austria... 🤮
Zero Talent, you are a victim of democrat propaganda! ;D ;D ;DWell, I’m not writing to Biden in diplomatic language. Biden fuck, where is the aviation?
You better save your faking energy. ;)
You will be forced to perform "yuge" amounts of faking, when trump and his maga republican cult will cut all support for Ukraine and serve it on silver platter to putin.
Meanwhile, Ukraine can't fly its already donated F16s, without proper training. A small reminder for you:
"In November 2023, Romania opened a training center for Ukrainian pilots to learn how to fly F-16 fighter jets"
Or, instead of faking your friends, you should focus your faking on putin's servants and useful idiots: trump, maga republicans, Hungary (and Orban, especially), Austria... 🤮
And we have already spoken many times, the majority of Republicans are in favor of providing the necessary weapons to Ukraine.We have spoken many times, but since your ostrich head is still buried in the sand, you can't see the reality. The times you are nostalgic about are long gone. Today's Republicans have an anti-Ukraine majority. They blocked multiple times Biden's attempts to offer more support to Ukraine, this month inclusive. They are my co-nationals but feel free to fak them.
Orban, so who keeps Hungary in NATO and the EU?
1. You use #whataboutism.And we have already spoken many times, the majority of Republicans are in favor of providing the necessary weapons to Ukraine.We have spoken many times, but since your ostrich head is still buried in the sand, you can't see the reality. The times you are nostalgic about are long gone. Today's Republicans have an anti-Ukraine majority. They blocked multiple times Biden's attempt to offer more support to Ukraine, this month inclusive. They are my conationals, but feel free to fak them.
Orban, so who keeps Hungary in NATO and the EU?
Yes, that Orban.
He is bringing shame to EU and NATO. Hungary should be kicked out of both EU and NATO. Orban blackmailed Bulgaria to facilitate the transport of russian gas, in exchange for not blocking Bulgaria's attempt to join the Schengen treaty.
Orban blocked $50 billion worth of EU funding for Ukraine.
We are only allies on paper. Feel free to fak Orban.
Austria transformed itself in nothing else but a russian oblast in the middle of Europe. They are blocking Romania's bid to join Schengen, as way to keep Ukraine as isolated as possible from EU aid. They are blocking the exploitation of huge natural gas reserves in the Black Sea to avoid competing with russia, and keep Europe as dependent as possible on russian gas. They forced Ukraine to lift its blacklisting of Raiffeisen Bank, an Austrian bank doing big business in russia. Their former ministry of foreign affairs moved to russia and declared herself happy to live there... etc.
Feel free to fak Austria too, instead of faking your friends.
. You're using #whataboutism tactics.You don't understand what #whataboutism is about. Allow me to clarify its definition for you.
Biden did a lot of good things for Ukraine's defense, Biden is Ukraine's friend (he is even taking political hits internally, to support a just cause), while the others I mentioned are its obvious enemies.I don't agree with you. And I have already written about this in many posts in this topic.
So, I am clearly not justifying Biden's "bad behavior" by comparing it to the Republicans, to Orban or Austria, because because Biden's behavior is the exact opposite.
What I am trying to tell you is to focus your anger where it should be focused: not on Biden who helped Ukraine war effort with over 100 billion dollars, but on Republicans, trump, Hungary, Austria who are trying to block all further initiatives.
Focus your anger on them, not on your supporters. At the same time, you can always kindly ask your friends and supporters, for more help. This is perfectly fine.Biden's behavior is the same as the behavior of Austria, Hungary, Trump's texts and other enemies of Ukraine and democracy. You are a Biden supporter, you listen to what he says and you believe what he says. I don’t listen to what Biden says, I just look at what he has done in 3 years. He has done very little, his policies are not effective. His policies led to the death of several hundred thousand Ukrainians, an environmental disaster and the occupation of Ukraine.
The good thing is that we clarified that I was not using #whataboutism, and you learned something.I just don't want to clutter up the topic again. ;D
This is progress.
Or better yet, Biden should be impeached and removed from governing the country.Lol. Based on what? Because you don't like him?
1. Ineffective spending of money of US taxpayers.Or better yet, Biden should be impeached and removed from governing the country.Lol. Based on what? Because you don't like him?
Or because of the hundreds of billions of dollars his administration managed to donate to Ukraine?
Again, you don't seem to understand how a democratic system works.
These are not reasons for impeachment, but your badly informed opinions.1. Ineffective spending of money of US taxpayers.Or better yet, Biden should be impeached and removed from governing the country.Lol. Based on what? Because you don't like him?
Or because of the hundreds of billions of dollars his administration managed to donate to Ukraine?
Again, you don't seem to understand how a democratic system works.
2. Biden's bad policy led to hundreds of thousands of deaths.
3. And yes, I do not like Biden and putin. I put both of them in one row.
I see that after the Republicans told Biden everything they thought about him, and I said it too :), aviation began to arrive very quickly.Lol, this is funny! You are incorrigible!
We will monitor further developments.
Yes, the dark horse Trump is a concern. And his far-right supporters are against providing assistance to Ukraine. But I wrote about the majority of Republicans, whom you constantly write down as Trump supporters. And I write about what is happening now, and do not make any predictions like you.I see that after the Republicans told Biden everything they thought about him, and I said it too :), aviation began to arrive very quickly.Lol, this is funny! You are incorrigible!
We will monitor further developments.
All this didn't happen overnight, my friend. The process began more than half a year ago. Scroll up this thread. What you refused to acknowledge back then, happens now.
It was announced already last week that several F16s crossed the border into Ukraine, flying from their training grounds in Romania.
The Republicans have nothing to do with your F16s.
If anything, your darling isolationists led by trump-the-moron, would do anything to stop all aid for Ukraine. Unfortunately there is a high chance for this to happen, since there is a high chance for trump to return to power and for his maga cult to consolidate their majority, both inside the Republican party and in Congress.
Mark my words!
Come back to read this again, when it will happen, instead of acting surprised, like you do now, with the F16s.
But hopefully, by then, your head will not be buried in the sand anymore and you'll be able to see the reality for what it is. ;)
Anyway, Merry Christmas and Slava Ukraini!
Yes, the dark horse Trump is a concern. And his far-right supporters are against providing assistance to Ukraine. But I wrote about the majority of Republicans, whom you constantly write down as Trump supporters.
The maga cult owns the republican party now and it already forms a majority. An anti-Ukraine majority!I don't agree.
The Republican party has also become a threat, being dominated by trump's isolationist maga majority.
But I appreciate that you moved on from your initial pro-trump stance and now you realize he is an existential threat to Ukraine.I don't agree. I see Biden and the Democrats as a threat. Whether Trump will be worse is not yet clear. It is also not a fact that Trump will win the election; I think that Biden may lose the election to other Republican candidates. Also, I definitely won’t make predictions about someone’s future politics, as you do.
Of course, Biden still has time before the election, he can still change opinions like mine. But anyway, I think he's an ass.hole. >:(
Maybe US Democrats support the Russians too...As usual, you are severely misinformed:
You recently referred to this diplomatic speech by Zelenskyy. If US Democrats continue to refer to this speech, then they think Ukrainians are idiots.Of course, Biden still has time before the election, he can still change opinions like mine. But anyway, I think he's an ass.hole. >:(
Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський
@ZelenskyyUa
"I thank @POTUS Joe Biden, Congress, and the American people for the $250 million military aid package announced yesterday.
Additional air defense missiles and components, anti-tank weapons, ammunition, mine clearing, and other equipment will cover Ukraine’s most pressing needs.
U.S. leadership in the coalition of over 50 countries providing Ukraine with military aid is critical to countering terror and aggression not only in Ukraine but around the world.
Over the course of this year, the U.S. has provided 34 military aid packages worth over $24 billion. “Patriots,” "Abrams," armored vehicles, ATACMS, DPICM, air defense, missiles, artillery rounds, mine clearing capabilities, and other critical equipment. A historic decision to provide Ukraine with F-16 jets was made. We will always be grateful for all of this support.
To defend freedom and security not only in Ukraine and Europe but also in the United States, we must continue to respond to ongoing Russian aggression in the most forceful and resolute manner possible"
You're welcome!
I asked a question. You didn't answer it. I'll repeat the question. What percentage of Democrats support Palestine and Hamas?Maybe US Democrats support the Russians too...As usual, you are severely misinformed:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/513680/american-views-ukraine-war-charts.aspx
DO your homework before posting crap:
Again... denying the evidence even when it's screaming in your face.
You refuse to ackowldge and be grateful for the many, many billions of dollars in military aid donated from US taxpayers' money to Ukraine.
You refuse to ackowledge that a growing majority of the Republican electorate and their elected representatives are anti-Ukraine and will offer putin what he wants, as soon as they will win the White House.
You are also questioning the integrity of the most prestigious polling company in the world, Gallup, when it doesn't fit your preconceived opinions. Nice! ::)
Get your head out of the sand and admit your mistakes!
I thought that you cared mainly about the aid for Ukraine, but if Palestine is more important for you, then you are right about it: the same Gallup polls (you deny their veridicity when it comes to Ukraine), are confirming your statement about Palestine. See attached.
So you may have to choose: either Gallup is wrong on both, or right on both. ;)
What I can tell you from inside the American society, is that they are right on both.
The fact is that a significant percentage of democrats have marxist views (especially the vocal extreme left), and they tend to support "the little man", even when "the little man" is a terrorist, unfortunately.
In their view, Ukraine is "the little man" when facing russia, and the Palestinians are "the little man" when facing Israel.
This is of course only my opinion, there may be other explanations, but the facts shown by the data remain true, even if you deny them.
Of course, I don't know the objective truth either. But I do believe that your thesis that Democrats support "the little man" may be true.
Of course, I don't know the objective truth either. But I do believe that your thesis that Democrats support "the little man" may be true.
I also believe that the strong Republican support for Israel is driven by religion more than anything else, since the strong evangelical base of the Republican party is pro-Israel, pro-Judeo-Cristianity, no matter what (and anti-Islam, especially the far-right).
Again... denying the evidence even when it's screaming in your face.You write the full drivel. It's all a lie. Stop listening to the *insult removed* Biden and the Marxist Democrats.
You refuse to acknowldge and be grateful for the many, many billions of dollars in military aid donated from US taxpayers' money to Ukraine.
You refuse to acknowledge that a growing majority of the Republican electorate and their elected representatives are anti-Ukraine and will offer putin what he wants, as soon as they will win the White House.
The fact is that a significant percentage of democrats have marxist viewsFuck the Democrats!
pro-Judeo-Cristianity:o :o ??? ???
Of course, I don't know the objective truth either. But I do believe that your thesis that Democrats support "the little man" may be true.In this topic I do not write about US citizens. I write about politicians who carry out policies. And I write that the policies of the Democrats are criminal and cowardly. Biden, their leader, is a dealer in Ukrainian blood. The more blood, the better for the Democrats.
pro-Judeo-Cristianity:o :o ??? ???
How is that? what's this?
Stepan Bandera.All normal people are filled with disgust at the mention of this nazzi maniac and sadist.
All Russians, at the mention of just his name, are filled with fear and horror. ;D 8) ;D 8)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/SBandera.jpg)
January 1, 2024 marks the 115th anniversary of one of the most famous fighters for the independence of Ukraine in the 20th century, Stepan Bandera.
All Russians, at the mention of just his name, are filled with fear and horror. ;D 8) ;D 8)
Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the nation! Death of the Russian Federation!
Bandera is obviously part of the whole problem.Certainly. Because he is a hero of Ukraine and an enemy of the Russian empire.
On the one hand, Russia's propaganda is misusing his historical role for its own purposes.Yes, the Na.zis from the KGB chose him as one of many Ukrainian heroes, demonized him and continue to demonize him. Russian orcs have come up with a lot of myths about him and continue propaganda against him.
On the other hand, I see no reason whatsoever for you to cast this person in such an important light here. The man was certainly not a personality to be celebrated - on the contrary.He is a hero of Ukraine. One of many heroes. I think that the whole world should know the Ukrainian hero, whom Russian orcs are terribly afraid of. Even the dead Bandera evokes animal fear among Russians. Although Russians are animals, they cannot be called people.
Bandera strove for an "ethnically pure" Ukraine. Just as Putin now obviously wants an "ethnically pure Russian" Ukraine.These are Russian propaganda narratives.
Personally, this kind of thinking is a thorn in my side!
No matter which side it comes from!
russia simply switched from communism to fascismThe Russian Empire is not only a fascist state, but also a Na.zi one.
russia simply switched from communism to fascismThe Russian Empire is not only a fascist state, but also a Na.zi one.
Bandera is obviously part of the whole problem.Certainly. Because he is a hero of Ukraine and an enemy of the Russian empire.On the one hand, Russia's propaganda is misusing his historical role for its own purposes.Yes, the Na.zis from the KGB chose him as one of many Ukrainian heroes, demonized him and continue to demonize him. Russian orcs have come up with a lot of myths about him and continue propaganda against him.
Bandera is also very disliked in Poland. In those years, part of Ukraine was also under Polish occupation, and Bandera also fought against Poland.On the other hand, I see no reason whatsoever for you to cast this person in such an important light here. The man was certainly not a personality to be celebrated - on the contrary.He is a hero of Ukraine. One of many heroes. I think that the whole world should know the Ukrainian hero, whom Russian orcs are terribly afraid of. Even the dead Bandera evokes animal fear among Russians. Although Russians are animals, they cannot be called people.Bandera strove for an "ethnically pure" Ukraine. Just as Putin now obviously wants an "ethnically pure Russian" Ukraine.These are Russian propaganda narratives.
Personally, this kind of thinking is a thorn in my side!
No matter which side it comes from!
Bandera was a revolutionary and fought for the independence of Ukraine from Russia and Poland.
There is no need to read what Russian orcs write about him or what other authors bought by Russians write about him. You need to read what Bandera himself wrote personally. For example, there is his book “Prospects for the Ukrainian Revolution.” This is a collection of articles by Stepan Bandera, published in Munich in 1978.
If you read this book, you will immediately understand what Bandera fought for and why he fought.
Bandera did not strive for an "ethnically pure" Ukraine.
Bandera considered it necessary to ensure for national minorities full and comprehensive equality in all civil rights and full freedom of national development, in accordance with international principles regarding national minorities. Provided that the national minorities will be loyal to the Ukrainian State.
Bandera declared that the Ukrainian nationalist movement had nothing to do with Na.zi.sm, fas.cism or National Socialism. He consistently opposed totalitarianism, imperialism, racism, and communism.
His words are still relevant today. Here is what he wrote:
"For our liberation policy, it is important that the Ukrainian liberation revolution be fully evaluated as a continuation of Ukraine's historical struggle with Moscow, with Moscow imperialism, and that of all types, not only Bolshevik. This struggle will not stop until the full realization of our goal, which is a complete break between Ukraine and Moscow, the rebuilding of the Independent Ukrainian State, the collapse of the USSR and the building of independent national states in post-Soviet Europe and Asia, the complete defeat of Russian imperialism and the creation of such a system of states around Russia, locked in its own borders, that it could not to act more with imperialist aggression. And further, so that the world knows that Ukraine will continue the struggle against all forces that would like to enslave it, destroy its state independence and sovereignty, or that would encroach on Ukrainian lands."
Against whom is the fury of Putin and other enemies of Ukraine most directed? Against Stepan Bandera. Even in heaven he does not give them peace. Why? Because Bandera and the people of Bandera destroyed their plan to destroy Ukraine and colonize Ukraine, erasing our identity. Bandera is still important today. Because it is a symbol of Freedom, truth and Victories.
Bandera is about the fact that Ukrainians will resist even in a seemingly hopeless situation. Bandera is about the huge potential of relying on one's own forces, the potential that is currently the basis of successful resistance to Russian aggression, which is changing the geopolitical position of Ukraine in the world. Bandera is about the long game, about faith in people and their efforts to defend freedom. Bandera is about the death of the Russian Empire and the victory of Ukraine.
One of these new dangerous minds in terms of global political developments has been put in his place today. The Israeli Supreme Court has managed to prevent worse things from happening by Netanyahu and his closest allies. I have also seen slightly positive trends in Poland recently. At least small rays of hope in an otherwise dire global political development.And this is generally delirium and ravings. Any psychiatrist would have already diagnosed you.
.... Few people are interested in reading the slogans and narratives of Russian propaganda.
Wilm, you are a victim of Russian propaganda. Actually, like all Germans. You have a high chance of seeing Russian orcs and Russian tanks on the streets of your cities.
Wilm, learn to write using arguments. Few people are interested in reading the slogans and narratives of Russian propaganda.
- All Germans are naive and victims of Russian propaganda+100
- All US Democrats are assholes
- All Russians are killing machines
Interesting (and very lonely) point of view. We are now on page 81 of your tireless postings. On the whole, I personally don't get the impression that anyone likes or shares your opinion.Every week this topic is read by 3 to 4 thousand people. Many people who read it are not registered on this forum. If people are reading this topic, it means they are interested in it.
To understand who the Democrats are in the USA. There is such a democrat (probably a friend of the Russians) John Kirby.
The US National Security Council Coordinator John Kirby said US will not be sending Ukraine 🇺🇦 anymore direct military aid until Congress approves funding.
To be clear, the White House has $4 billion of military aid they can send Ukraine, and they’ve decided that it doesn't exist
>:( >:( >:(
For $4 billion, the cowardly Democrats could: send to Ukraine 200 ATACMS, 15 F-16, 300000 155mm shells, 100000 155mm cluster shells, 200 AMRAAM missiles, 100 Patriot missiles, thousands of cluster missiles, 1000 GMLRS missiles, and still lose half the money.
Democrats are evil and friends of Russian Na.zis.
On December 27, the US released a package worth 250 million dollarsLet Biden shove that $250 million up his ass.
- All Ukrainians are unreserved Bandera supporters+100
DOES THE USA BELIEVE IN THE VICTORY OF UKRAINE AND WHAT IS BIDEN PLANNING?
https://zn.ua/eng/does-the-usa-believe-in-the-victory-of-ukraine-and-what-is-biden-planning.html (https://zn.ua/eng/does-the-usa-believe-in-the-victory-of-ukraine-and-what-is-biden-planning.html)
An article about why Biden is shitass. It is also written why Republicans are better than Democrats.
DOES THE USA BELIEVE IN THE VICTORY OF UKRAINE AND WHAT IS BIDEN PLANNING?
https://zn.ua/eng/does-the-usa-believe-in-the-victory-of-ukraine-and-what-is-biden-planning.html (https://zn.ua/eng/does-the-usa-believe-in-the-victory-of-ukraine-and-what-is-biden-planning.html)
An article about why Biden is shitass. It is also written why Republicans are better than Democrats.
This is the reality (the rest is only speculation and wishful thinking):
..., their colleagues who are less experienced or more eager for media and electoral attention clearly do not think so, operating with a different approach: the harder you hit Ukraine, the tougher you will look in relation to the Biden administration. And this is a serious bid for success among the Republican electorate, which considers the US Democratic Party a greater threat to America than, say, the master of the Kremlin. At Forum 2000, President of the Czech Republic Petr Pavel recounted his conversation with the republican politician, who told him so directly: "I would rather find a common language with Putin than with the Democrats."
That republican politician has the same views as trump, who constantly admired putin.
This "less experienced" (read: morons ;)) maga faction (the article is failing to ackowledge its relevance) is not a faction anymore. They are already a majority.
They will never switch from their current anti-Ukraine to a pro-Ukraine stance, once they will win the elections.
Hoping for that is a delusion and exactly the definition of "wishful thinking". ::)
Reminder. Today's republican party majority in one image:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj2e0w9VAAAraKs?format=jpg)
I really respect the fact that you want to convince certain people. I have now reached the point where I no longer want to try. It just doesn't make sense - stocker2014 doesn't want to and won't understand. The understanding will only come if the Republicans manage to get into power again.
Then there will be no more money or weapons for Ukraine. Money to pay its own soldiers. Money to maintain Ukraine's infrastructure (energy supply, communications, hospitals, schools, etc.). Then deals will be made with the Russians. And they will not be to Ukraine's advantage.
What stocker2014 actually believes is that the Republicans will supply the weapons he wants. But this will never happen, because the "America First" credo stands in the way. What do the nationalist hardliners care about the fate of Ukraine? They only care about their own country. And the votes that result from this thinking.
And, yes, stocker2014 may be right in one respect: If the Republicans were to come to power, Europe's security might be more at risk and Putin would have an easier game. Putin knows this too - and that is precisely the reason why the Russian trolls will try to support the election of the Republicans - as he has done before.
Best wishes from the Dilirium.
And this is a serious bid for success among the Republican electorate, which considers the US Democratic Party a greater threat to America than, say, the master of the Kremlin.I will greatly disappoint you all here. But I have also thought so for a long time. And if I lived in the USA, I would wear the same T-shirts too. ;D ;D ;D
And, yes, stocker2014 may be right in one respect: If the Republicans were to come to power, Europe's security might be more at risk and Putin would have an easier game. Putin knows this too - and that is precisely the reason why the Russian trolls will try to support the election of the Republicans - as he has done before.You write something that I didn’t write!
And this is a serious bid for success among the Republican electorate, which considers the US Democratic Party a greater threat to America than, say, the master of the Kremlin.I will greatly disappoint you all here. But I have also thought so for a long time. And if I lived in the USA, I would wear the same T-shirts too. ;D ;D ;D
1. This T-shirt does not reflect the real views of Republicans, but is merely trolling Democrats. You have problems with humor. ;DAnd this is a serious bid for success among the Republican electorate, which considers the US Democratic Party a greater threat to America than, say, the master of the Kremlin.I will greatly disappoint you all here. But I have also thought so for a long time. And if I lived in the USA, I would wear the same T-shirts too. ;D ;D ;D
That's a great idea. I am sure you can wear one even if you are not living in the US. To paraphrase you: better "orc" than American Democrat. Nice! Seeing it, your fellow Ukrainians will surely love you for your wisdom.
While proudly wearing that t-shirt, ask your prefered "orcs" to assist you in the fight against the "orc" invasion. They will surely help you as much as trump and his maga, "orc" prefering republicans.
1. This T-shirt does not reflect the real views of Republicans
"And this is a serious bid for success among the Republican electorate"Of course, Republicans criticize everything Democrats do. Democrats do the same. Moreover, Republicans have something to criticize cowardly Democrats for.
"And this is a serious bid for success among the Republican electorate"Of course, Republicans criticize everything Democrats do. Democrats do the same. Moreover, Republicans have something to criticize cowardly Democrats for.
The Democrats are their own enemies with their miserable policies.
As I already said, I don’t care what the Republicans say, especially during the election campaign.
What are they assholes these Democrats I have already seen over the past 30 years.
In 12 years of those past 30 years there were republican presidents.Yes, that's for sure. There is even an opportunity to compare policies.
Trump's son said very well about the "independence" of democratic media.
"How is it possible that I’ve seen more videos out of this war in Israel in a few hours than I have from Ukraine in almost 2 years???"
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1710652739007484359 (https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1710652739007484359)
+100
Republicans! Impeach Biden and put him in jail!
Republicans also support democracy. In the USA there is a big difference between such a concept as democracy and democrats. There is no need to put equality between democracy and only Democrats in the United States.Republicans! Impeach Biden and put him in jail!
In my view, this is really good proof of your attitude to democracy.
Trump's son said very well about the "independence" of democratic media.
"How is it possible that I’ve seen more videos out of this war in Israel in a few hours than I have from Ukraine in almost 2 years???"
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1710652739007484359 (https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1710652739007484359)
+100
As Zero Talent said here, democrats are 45-50% Marxists, communists, which is equal to supporters of Russian Na_zis. Personally, I think that Democratic politicians are also cowards and ass.holes.
What I said that the Democrats with marxist viewsYou don't have to continue any further. Marxist views were very popular in the USSR and now in the Russian Empire there is also a communist party that supports putin.
In case you didn't realize, lately, marxist views are (unfortunately), popular again, not just in the US, but across the whole Europe. All socialist, social-democrat, democrat parties, green parties, etc... have marxist views.This is all the result of the work of the KGB and Russian propaganda. All this makes it easier for the Russians to occupy Europe.
The "woke" movement is in fact a sexo-marxist movement.
Even liberal parties (which are supposed to sit on the right, in Europe) have marxist views.
This trend is more dominant among the young generation, among those who didn't experience marxism in full action, when half of Europe was a soviet colony. They are reinventing the wheel, thinking that they know how to make marxism work. There is no such thing. The result will be the same disaster, everybody will end up equally poor.
Even in this forum, a large majority of the opinions are marxist. Many contributors see themselves as "the little man" "exploited" by big corporations.
And fyi, I am totally against marxism, since I experienced its utopia in real life. As much as feasible, I want free markets, freedom and liberties with minimal government intervention in people's lives.
Too bad you refuse to see the obvious: trump's maga national-populism and putin's "russkiy mir" national-populism are much closer than you are ready to admit.
Your views are consistent with those of most Republicans. You are not a democrat.
In case you didn't realize, lately, marxist views are (unfortunately), popular again, not just in the US, but across the whole Europe. All socialist, social-democrat, democrat parties, green parties, etc... have marxist views.
Your evidence is not evidence. Which is what I also write to you about all the time. You are fixated on Trump and his followers. You also listen to a lot of propaganda from Democrats.Your views are consistent with those of most Republicans. You are not a democrat.
No. You are wrong, my views are closer (but not identical) to the Old School Republicans views, from the economy point of view.
Unfortunately they are a minority these days: trump's maga national-populist cult hijacked the GoP. Old School Republicans are ridiculed by the cult of maga, being called RINOs (Republicans In Name Only)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_in_Name_Only
I also told you that, but you systematically refuse to ackowledge the evidence and change your preconceptions.
However, I believe that Old School Republicans, are relying too much on religious "teachings", being too restrictive on personal freedoms and the Democrats are doing a better job from this point of view.
Democrats should not be given any power at all; I would not even allow them into the Senate and Congress, and especially not allow them into the presidency.Your views are consistent with those of most Republicans. You are not a democrat.
No. You are wrong, my views are closer (but not identical) to the Old School Republicans views, from the economy point of view.
Unfortunately they are a minority these days: trump's maga national-populist cult hijacked the GoP. Old School Republicans are ridiculed by the cult of maga, being called RINOs (Republicans In Name Only)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_in_Name_Only
I also told you that, but you systematically refuse to ackowledge the evidence and change your preconceptions.
However, I believe that Old School Republicans, are relying too much on religious "teachings", being too restrictive on personal freedoms and the Democrats are doing a better job from this point of view.
In any case, there is only one Republican Party in the United States. There is no second batch like this.
Why is KGB agent Merkel not in prison? Why doesn't he testify? This girlfriend of putin has maximally weakened the defense capability of not only Germany, but the entire EU. There is very little written about this in the democratic press.
Why are you writing to me about groups (factions)? Did I write somewhere about groups?
In any case, there is only one Republican Party in the United States. There is no second batch like this.
The only thing you are doing is to flaunt your ignorance from thousands of miles away.
For your education: in the US there is no vote redistribution or a proportional system to allocate seats in Congress. The winner takes all. This system makes impossible for a small party to break through. This is why many political movements must unite under a big umbrella, and this is why in the US we face a defacto political duopoly, with only two big parties able to compete against each other.
Under these two big umbrellas, there are many factions coexisting. For example, the Democrats are hosting liberals, moderates, conservatives, progressives and a far left marxist faction (led by Alexandra Ocasio Cortez).
The Republicans use to have a smaller far-right faction, the Tea Party and several other factions leaning more or less to the center (e.g. social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, centrists, christian right, neoconservatives), but today the GoP is polarized between a "trumpist" majority and a "never trump" minority (made of leftovers from the Old School Republicans, mocked as RINOs, by the trumpists)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Trump_movement
Do your homework before embarrassing yourself with ignorant statements.
So, they wrote something in 2013. They probably didn't write anymore. OK. If didn’t write, then everything is fine. >:(
Why is KGB agent Merkel not in prison? Why doesn't he testify? This girlfriend of putin has maximally weakened the defense capability of not only Germany, but the entire EU. There is very little written about this in the democratic press.
Completely wrong again. The topic was discussed in the German media, especially after the publication of the book "Das erste Leben der Angela M" by historian Ralf Georg Reuth in 2013.
Conspiracy theorists have used this information to construct an activity of Angela Merkel as a KGB agent. However, there is no concrete evidence for this.
Why are you writing to me about groups (factions)? Did I write somewhere about groups?
In any case, there is only one Republican Party in the United States. There is no second batch like this.
So, they wrote something in 2013. They probably didn't write anymore. OK. If didn’t write, then everything is fine. >:(
Why is KGB agent Merkel not in prison? Why doesn't he testify? This girlfriend of putin has maximally weakened the defense capability of not only Germany, but the entire EU. There is very little written about this in the democratic press.
Completely wrong again. The topic was discussed in the German media, especially after the publication of the book "Das erste Leben der Angela M" by historian Ralf Georg Reuth in 2013.
Conspiracy theorists have used this information to construct an activity of Angela Merkel as a KGB agent. However, there is no concrete evidence for this.
Let's wait until British and US intelligence shares information about Merkel with the public. :)
The obvious is obvious to me. I watched this lady and her politics for a long time. It is also obvious to me that you Germans are good friends of the Russians.So, they wrote something in 2013. They probably didn't write anymore. OK. If didn’t write, then everything is fine. >:(
Why is KGB agent Merkel not in prison? Why doesn't he testify? This girlfriend of putin has maximally weakened the defense capability of not only Germany, but the entire EU. There is very little written about this in the democratic press.
Completely wrong again. The topic was discussed in the German media, especially after the publication of the book "Das erste Leben der Angela M" by historian Ralf Georg Reuth in 2013.
Conspiracy theorists have used this information to construct an activity of Angela Merkel as a KGB agent. However, there is no concrete evidence for this.
Let's wait until British and US intelligence shares information about Merkel with the public. :)
You repeatedly state here as fact that Merkel is a KGB agent.
Where is the proof?
Unknown and unpublished information from the American and British secret services? ;D ;D ;D
Zero Talent, did I ask you to explain something to me? What do I care about internal problems and contradictions in the Republican Party or the Democratic Party. You have decided that I am an idiot who does not know that there are different pressure groups or factions within the Republican Party.
Your writing style is clearly confrontational.
The obvious is obvious to me. I watched this lady and her politics for a long time. It is also obvious to me that you Germans are good friends of the Russians.
By covering and protecting a KGB agent, you yourself become an accomplice in the crimes of Russian Naz.is.
Yes, I do not have secret and spy recordings of her conversations and I do not have a dossier on her that the intelligence services of other countries have. But the point of the forums is that people here write obvious things, If of course these people are aware of Merkel’s policies and all the harm that she has caused.
So, they wrote something in 2013. They probably didn't write anymore. OK. If didn’t write, then everything is fine. >:(
Why is KGB agent Merkel not in prison? Why doesn't he testify? This girlfriend of putin has maximally weakened the defense capability of not only Germany, but the entire EU. There is very little written about this in the democratic press.
Completely wrong again. The topic was discussed in the German media, especially after the publication of the book "Das erste Leben der Angela M" by historian Ralf Georg Reuth in 2013.
Conspiracy theorists have used this information to construct an activity of Angela Merkel as a KGB agent. However, there is no concrete evidence for this.
Let's wait until British and US intelligence shares information about Merkel with the public. :)
You repeatedly state here as fact that Merkel is a KGB agent.
Where is the proof?
Unknown and unpublished information from the American and British secret services? ;D ;D ;D
It is also obvious to me that you Germans are good friends of the Russians.
50% of the US population supports Republicans. Why don't you tell them all that they don't understand anything about politics.Zero Talent, did I ask you to explain something to me? What do I care about internal problems and contradictions in the Republican Party or the Democratic Party. You have decided that I am an idiot who does not know that there are different pressure groups or factions within the Republican Party.
Your writing style is clearly confrontational.
No, I never said you are an idiot.
What I said is that you are ignorant of many aspects in US politics.
You are stubborn and unwilling to change your flawed deeply rooted beliefs. You are burying your head in the sand refusing to learn and ackowledge facts contradicting your beliefs. You are living in a fantasy world, disconnected from reality.
Most of your statements are full of non-sense and you are making a huge disservice to your country.
That's what I'm saying.
What do you mean by proof?
The obvious is obvious to me. I watched this lady and her politics for a long time. It is also obvious to me that you Germans are good friends of the Russians.
By covering and protecting a KGB agent, you yourself become an accomplice in the crimes of Russian Naz.is.
Yes, I do not have secret and spy recordings of her conversations and I do not have a dossier on her that the intelligence services of other countries have. But the point of the forums is that people here write obvious things, If of course these people are aware of Merkel’s policies and all the harm that she has caused.
Thank you, so still no proof.
Just your imagination and a special gift for watching ladies and her politics.
1. You can think whatever you want.So, they wrote something in 2013. They probably didn't write anymore. OK. If didn’t write, then everything is fine. >:(
Why is KGB agent Merkel not in prison? Why doesn't he testify? This girlfriend of putin has maximally weakened the defense capability of not only Germany, but the entire EU. There is very little written about this in the democratic press.
Completely wrong again. The topic was discussed in the German media, especially after the publication of the book "Das erste Leben der Angela M" by historian Ralf Georg Reuth in 2013.
Conspiracy theorists have used this information to construct an activity of Angela Merkel as a KGB agent. However, there is no concrete evidence for this.
Let's wait until British and US intelligence shares information about Merkel with the public. :)
You repeatedly state here as fact that Merkel is a KGB agent.
Where is the proof?
Unknown and unpublished information from the American and British secret services? ;D ;D ;D
It is also obvious to me that you Germans are good friends of the Russians.
It is obvious to me that you are a good friend of the russians.
There is a very high risk that US support for Ukraine and NATO could fall dramatically if the Republicans come to power.
A weak Ukraine and a weak NATO would be a gift for Putin. And that seems to be exactly what you want.
If you had power comparable to Putin's, you would ban the democrat party and thus silence the political representatives of 60% of the US population who are in favor of aid to Ukraine.
I'm beginning to think you're a Russian troll.
So, they wrote something in 2013. They probably didn't write anymore. OK. If didn’t write, then everything is fine. >:(
Why is KGB agent Merkel not in prison? Why doesn't he testify? This girlfriend of putin has maximally weakened the defense capability of not only Germany, but the entire EU. There is very little written about this in the democratic press.
Completely wrong again. The topic was discussed in the German media, especially after the publication of the book "Das erste Leben der Angela M" by historian Ralf Georg Reuth in 2013.
Conspiracy theorists have used this information to construct an activity of Angela Merkel as a KGB agent. However, there is no concrete evidence for this.
Let's wait until British and US intelligence shares information about Merkel with the public. :)
You repeatedly state here as fact that Merkel is a KGB agent.
Where is the proof?
Unknown and unpublished information from the American and British secret services? ;D ;D ;D
It is also obvious to me that you Germans are good friends of the Russians.
It is obvious to me that you are a good friend of the russians.
There is a very high risk that US support for Ukraine and NATO could fall dramatically if the Republicans come to power.
A weak Ukraine and a weak NATO would be a gift for Putin. And that seems to be exactly what you want.
If you had power comparable to Putin's, you would ban the democrat party and thus silence the political representatives of 60% of the US population who are in favor of aid to Ukraine.
I'm beginning to think you're a Russian troll.
And yes, earlier in the USA various fools were dispersed with tear gas, water and batons. Those were good times.
You have thereby disqualified yourself. You think autocratically and are on exactly the same intellectual and political level as Putin. And the biggest problem is that you don't even realize it.It's better to talk about this when Russian tanks are within shooting distance of your house. And in the United States, demonstrations will be free to take place in support of the Russians or against military assistance to Germany and the EU.
However, I think you would be doing Ukraine a huge favor if you kept quiet.
But probably even then, Merkel will be a heavenly angel in your head. ::)
50% of the US population supports Republicans.
Russian tanks shooting at your home and your family in your city. Then you will quickly understand that the German army is not ready for war and defense.
Let's think together which of us is a fool?50% of the US population supports Republicans.
Wrong again. Stop making a fool of yourself!
See below the latest vote intentions in the US.
FYI, even when trump won against Clinton, he lost the popular vote. (he only had 46.09% of the population voting for him, while Clinton had 2.09% more voters)
Again, you are ignorant of many aspects of the American politics.
Merkel's follower Scholz has currently given exactly 0 of these missiles to Ukraine. Merkel's policy continues, everything is leading to the fact that soon the Russians will be not far from your city.
Russian tanks shooting at your home and your family in your city. Then you will quickly understand that the German army is not ready for war and defense.
Thank you for your assessment.
This is exactly why we should stop supporting Ukraine immediately and keep Taurus ourselves. Good job.
Let's think together which of us is a fool?50% of the US population supports Republicans.
Wrong again. Stop making a fool of yourself!
See below the latest vote intentions in the US.
FYI, even when trump won against Clinton, he lost the popular vote. (he only had 46.09% of the population voting for him, while Clinton had 2.09% more voters)
Again, you are ignorant of many aspects of the American politics.
I rounded your 46% to 50% because...
You have thereby disqualified yourself. You think autocratically and are on exactly the same intellectual and political level as Putin. And the biggest problem is that you don't even realize it.It's better to talk about this when Russian tanks are within shooting distance of your house. And in the United States, demonstrations will be free to take place in support of the Russians or against military assistance to Germany and the EU.
However, I think you would be doing Ukraine a huge favor if you kept quiet.
If democrats are in power, then such a scenario is very real.
;D ;D ;D
::) ::) ::)
In the meantime, you live in a country in which bombs and shells do not fall on your head, and you live in the illusion of security and and talk like a child.
Stop making a fool of yourself!This is exactly what I wish for you!
Merkel's policy continues, everything is leading to the fact that soon the Russians will be not far from your city.
:)
Stop making a fool of yourself!This is exactly what I wish for you!
"I think we should start pushing Nikki #Haley2024 on Twitter. Because she is the best solution for 🇺🇸 & 🇺🇦 .
https://twitter.com/i/status/1744512622194528333
Nikki Haley wants to give Ukraine a lot of weapons!
+100
https://twitter.com/i/status/1744512622194528333
Nikki Haley wants to give Ukraine a lot of weapons!
+100
She does not say this in the video.
She means it. I made brief conclusions from her speech. Not all people understand what politicians are talking about and why.https://twitter.com/i/status/1744512622194528333
Nikki Haley wants to give Ukraine a lot of weapons!
+100
She does not say this in the video.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1744512622194528333
Nikki Haley wants to give Ukraine a lot of weapons!
+100
She does not say this in the video.
Not all people understand what politicians are talking about and why.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1744512622194528333
Nikki Haley wants to give Ukraine a lot of weapons!
+100
She does not say this in the video.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1744512622194528333
Nikki Haley wants to give Ukraine a lot of weapons!
+100
She does not say this in the video.
She said in on multiple occasions. For example here:
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1742750667033215234
She specified that she is not in favor of sending money, but weapons.
Too bad she has no chance to win the GoP nomination!
Big Toe, of the money that the Democrats gave to Ukraine, the amount of military assistance is not very large. Therefore, if even this 3% will be used to send weapons specifically (and if also the weapons that Ukraine is requesting, it will be very good).
I also know that only Biden and the US Democrats are cowards and dealers in Ukrainian blood.
Therefore, it is logical to assume that the Republicans will send the necessary weapons to Ukraine.
1. $43.9 Billions is what percentage of the US military budget? The full-scale war has been going on for 2 years now, take this into account in your calculations.Big Toe, of the money that the Democrats gave to Ukraine, the amount of military assistance is not very large. Therefore, if even this 3% will be used to send weapons specifically (and if also the weapons that Ukraine is requesting, it will be very good).
According to the Ukraine Support Tracker, the USA have send $43,9 Billions worth in military aid and $25 Billions financial aid, so I guess it depends on whether you call $43,9 Billions very large.
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/ (https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/)I also know that only Biden and the US Democrats are cowards and dealers in Ukrainian blood.
And how do you know that?Therefore, it is logical to assume that the Republicans will send the necessary weapons to Ukraine.
Must be some kind of alternative logic.
1. $43.9 Billions is what percentage of the US military budget? The full-scale war has been going on for 2 years now, take this into account in your calculations.
2. You can get by with much smaller amounts if you send the necessary weapons to Ukraine. The necessary weapons are aviation, medium- and long-range missiles, and tanks.
Big Toe, I'll say it briefly. Everything is exactly the opposite of what you wrote.
1. $43.9 Billions is what percentage of the US military budget? The full-scale war has been going on for 2 years now, take this into account in your calculations.
The US military budget for 2024 is estimated to be about $842 billion. 3,5% of that are about 29,5 billion. The data from the support tracker covers aid from January 24 2022 until October 31 2023. So that amounts to about 26,3 billion per year. So the 3,5% of the military budget would only be a slight increase in military aid, with cutting the financial support to zero. So overall, the Ukraine would fare worse.
Europeans, start preparing parking spaces for Russian tanks!
And coffins, Russians like to kill a lot.
The only hope is for the Republicans. Trump will quickly send the EU under Russian occupation for such an idiotic policy aimed at financing the Russians.
The only hope is for the Republicans. Trump will quickly send the EU under Russian occupation for such an idiotic policy aimed at financing the Russians.
I suppose this is exactly what a Russian troll wants.
The only hope is for the Republicans. Trump will quickly send the EU under Russian occupation for such an idiotic policy aimed at financing the Russians.
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I suppose this is exactly what a Russian troll wants.
Yes, the former moron-in-chief already declared that NATO is dead and he will not help any NATO ally if attacked, reassuring his buddy putin.
Despite that, our delusional dear friend somehow believes that Ukraine will get a special treatment!
Sad and hilarious at the same time! 🙄
Europeans, start preparing parking spaces for Russian tanks!And give more parking spaces for the luxury cars of “poor Ukrainian refugees”!
Europeans, start preparing parking spaces for Russian tanks!And give more parking spaces for the luxury cars of “poor Ukrainian refugees”!
https://valahia.news/rich-ukrainian-refugees-in-romania/
(https://i.postimg.cc/W1DVnWYL/5-min-768x370.jpg)
Are you talking about the article I linked to?
This comment can hardly be surpassed in cynicism!
Are you talking about the article I linked to?
This comment can hardly be surpassed in cynicism!
Or about the cynicism of those Ukrainians who have plenty of money, but do not help their homeland, and prefer to hide from mobilization in other countries and show off their pseudo-patriotism on forums?
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-vow-never-help-europe-attack-thierry-breton/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-vow-never-help-europe-attack-thierry-breton/)
Trump vowed he’d ‘never’ help Europe if it’s attacked, top EU official says.
‘By the way NATO is dead,’ the former (and potential future) US president added in private meeting.
;D ;D ;D
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Well done Trump! An excellent ultimatum to cowardly and venal Europe.
If you are trying to say thatYou have a rich imagination. What else will you come up with and attribute to me?
If you are trying to say thatYou have a rich imagination. What else will you come up with and attribute to me?
you never condemned your paranoid leaderLeave your delusional accusatory fantasies about me. You won't be able to provoke me.
you never condemned your paranoid leaderLeave your delusional accusatory fantasies about me. You won't be able to provoke me.
And everyone can see who the real nazzi is on this forum.
Happy Old New Year everyone!
This warehouse is a legal military target. It contained many dual-use goods imported for the Russian Na.zi army.
you never condemned your paranoid leaderLeave your delusional accusatory fantasies about me. You won't be able to provoke me.
And everyone can see who the real nazzi is on this forum.
Happy Old New Year everyone!
Stop deflecting.
I am not talking about a misguided specific individual active in this forum, who should know better.
I am talking about your shameless hypocrisy and your murderous fascist leader, about your criminal countrymen who obey his orders, killing children and innocent civilians, while you deflect their crimes posing as a "peace lover".
Shame!
Since when do you consider wishing Happy New Year abnormal? Are you out of your mind? Do you want me to publicly criticize the government of my country here? My attitude towards the government will be reflected on the ballot for the presidential election in 2 months, but not here. You won't be able to provoke me into this. You know what happens in the modern “democratic World” when you criticize government of the country in which you live. The death of Gonzalo Lira López is another example of this.
Our friend has in no way distanced himself from the war.
Instead, he posts here as if all is well with the world.
He posts Christmas greetings from a quiet Russian village
You know what happens in the modern “democratic World” when you criticize government of the country in which you live.
The death of Gonzalo López is another example of this.
Pepsi helped russia to kill 13,000 Ukrainians.
Since the beginning of the russian invasion, Pepsi continued its operations in russia. As a result, PepsiCo’s net profit increased by a 333% to $525 million last year and the company paid $115 million in taxes to the Kremlin.
To put it in perspective, $115 million will allow russia to produce 200,000 shells. Artillery is responsible for about 75% of casualties, with roughly 15 shells per kill. So, Pepsi helped russia to kill 13,000 Ukrainians.
Literally, Pepsi is sponsoring russian war crimes. It has already been added to the list of international sponsors of war. But we need more!
Here are some practical steps:
1. Share this post with your friends and let them know about the moral bankruptcy of Pepsi.
2. Go to PepsiCo page and leave a comment reminding them that they are sponsoring war crimes.
3. Stop buying their products, they are not good for you anyway. But if you cannot live without soda, then switch to Coca-Cola.
4. Stop working for Pepsi. I actually had several connections on LinkedIn who worked for Pepsi. I removed them, because I cannot be connected to people who tangentially enable genocide against my family and friends.
https://twitter.com/rshereme/status/1746232199836500056 (https://twitter.com/rshereme/status/1746232199836500056)
Glory to Ukraine!
This is what Russian slaves, orcs and zombies look like. And there are 80-90% of such Russians in russia.
This is what Russian slaves, orcs and zombies look like. And there are 80-90% of such Russians in russia.
(https://bestmemes.ucoz.net/_nw/11/07311057.jpg)
Biden's place in the electric chair!
Germany is preparing for war with the Russians as early as February 2024.
The German newspaper Bild has stated that the Bundeswehr (German Armed Forces) have been preparing for a hybrid Russian attack on NATO's eastern flank that may take place in February 2024.
Source: Bild with reference to a secret Bundeswehr document
Details: Bild noted that, according to the document, escalation between NATO and russia may take place as early as February 2024.
In a classified document (Top Secret – For Official Use Only), the German Federal Ministry of Defence outlines a potential "Path to Conflict" between russia and NATO is detailed. The actions of russia and the West are described month by month, culminating in the deployment of hundreds of thousands of NATO troops and the inevitable onset of war in the summer of 2025.
Bild outlines the scenario from the document but refrains from disclosing all the information regarding the size and movement of NATO forces due to security considerations.
The Bundeswehr's scenario, Alliance Defence 2025, begins in February 2024. Russia initiates another wave of mobilisation and conscripts an additional 200,000 individuals into the army. After that, the Kremlin launches a spring offensive in Ukraine, pushing the Ukrainian army back by June.
Russia's at first covert and then increasingly overt attack on the West begins in July. Cyber attacks and other forms of hybrid warfare are anticipated, primarily in the Baltic states. Clashes occur, which russia uses as an excuse to initiate large-scale military exercises on its territory and in Belarus.
According to the scenario, this situation could escalate in October if russia deploys troops and medium-range missiles to Kaliningrad. From December 2024, an artificially induced "border conflict" and "clashes with numerous casualties" unfold in the vicinity of the Suwałki Gap (Suwalki Corridor).
At a moment when the United States may be without a leader for several weeks after the elections, russia, with the support of Belarus, repeats the 2014 invasion of Ukraine but on NATO territory. In May 2025, NATO decides on containment measures, and on D-Day, NATO deploys 300,000 military personnel to the eastern flank, including 30,000 soldiers from the Bundeswehr.
The scenario ends 30 days after D-Day. Whether NATO will restrain Russia remains an open question.
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As long as the US is led by cowardly Democrats, the Russians can launch an offensive against EU countries.
The Russians also see power shifting to the Republicans in 2025. Therefore, only this year the Russians can quickly occupy the maximum number of EU countries.
As long as the US is led by cowardly Democrats, the Russians can launch an offensive against EU countries.
The Russians also see power shifting to the Republicans in 2025. Therefore, only this year the Russians can quickly occupy the maximum number of EU countries.
Germans, stop drinking and being followers of the policies of KGB agent Merkel! ;D ;D ;D
Tell your citizens the truth. Soon there will be a war with the Russians.
Actually, russia also conducted a lot of “exercises” before the attack on Ukraine.
The Germans must know that when the Russians rape and kill their women, this certainly cannot be called a training exercise.
Germans, stop drinking and being followers of the policies of KGB agent Merkel! ;D ;D ;D
Tell your citizens the truth. Soon there will be a war with the Russians.
Actually, russia also conducted a lot of “exercises” before the attack on Ukraine.
The Germans must know that when the Russians rape and kill their women, this certainly cannot be called a training exercise.
It's really remarkable how your state of mind and level of behavior has slipped into the unbearable in the last few months.
The only thing that really frightens me is that someone with such violent fantasies is on the loose somewhere in the world.
I assume that you have also lost the basis for other topics in the forum.
At the same time, of course, even greater flows of refugees from Ukraine are to be feared if the election goes in Trump's favor.
At the same time, of course, even greater flows of refugees from Ukraine are to be feared if the election goes in Trump's favor.
It will be so sad (but also ironic) for stocker to end-up a refugee in the Germany he is so vehemently despising, once trump will cut all US aid for Ukraine...
I doubt that, Wilm.
I think is a misguided Ukrainian who is being served talking points by his Ukrainian media bubble. He is posting them unchewed, unverified, together with a lot of (understandable?) anger and maybe desperation.
It will be so sad (but also ironic) for stocker to end-up a refugee in the Germany he is so vehemently despising+100
And he hints that he would be delighted if the Russians were to take over Europe.If the EU continues Merkel's policies, the EU will definitely be occupied by the Russians. And Biden and the Democrats will not be able to help the EU.
Doctor! Get back to your patients. This forum is not a hospital for the mentally ill.I doubt that, Wilm.
I think is a misguided Ukrainian who is being served talking points by his Ukrainian media bubble. He is posting them unchewed, unverified, together with a lot of (understandable?) anger and maybe desperation.
The fact is that this guy is constantly insulting the nations that are currently providing the most aid to Ukraine and has done a lot of damage here with regard to Ukraine.
In the end, we will never find out.
Either this is a stupid Ukrainian or a clever Russian troll.
Then there is another problem with globalization.Exactly.
Russian weapons do not work without western technology. And this continues to find its way to Russia - despite the embargo.
Unfortunately only in German:
https://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Wie-westliche-Technik-Russlands-Krieg-befeuert-article24616078.html (https://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Wie-westliche-Technik-Russlands-Krieg-befeuert-article24616078.html)
In the USA there is always a soft and an evil policeman. Both of them work for the benefit of the United States. Trump is an evil cop. Now is the time for Trump.
Nikki Haley certainly speaks well, but I'm not sure yet that she will be an evil cop.
Then there is another problem with globalization.
Russian weapons do not work without western technology. And this continues to find its way to Russia - despite the embargo.
Unfortunately only in German:
https://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Wie-westliche-Technik-Russlands-Krieg-befeuert-article24616078.html (https://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Wie-westliche-Technik-Russlands-Krieg-befeuert-article24616078.html)
In the USA there is always a soft and an evil policeman. Both of them work for the benefit of the United States. Trump is an evil cop. Now is the time for Trump.
Nikki Haley certainly speaks well, but I'm not sure yet that she will be an evil cop.
wrong, trump is a dumb cop, not an evil cop.
Nobody needs dumb cops. Especially not when they are so dumb to openly admire criminals like putin.
I'm afraid Trump is not stupid. And that's what makes him so dangerous!
Open all the world map. Find Ukraine. And you will see that Ukraine is the gate through which Russians = Asians (barbarians, orcs) can enter the EU. Ukraine protects the EU from the invasion of Russian orcs and zombies. If Ukraine falls, the gates to the EU will be open.
Ukrainians are a European nation. Russians are Asians and Orcs.
Do you want to support Putin by giving his claim that Ukraine is full of na*is a basis for justifying the "special military operation"?No I do not want to. I wrote the modern truth and the historical truth.
There is no people or ethnic group that is bad per se.Russians are a random people who were formed recently in historical terms. They are genetic slaves and orcs. But, when the Russian empire is liquidated and Russians will be behind an iron wall for 100 years, there is a possibility that they may be reborn as people. At the moment I cannot call Russians people.
There is no people or ethnic group that is bad per se.Russians are a random people who were formed recently in historical terms. They are genetic slaves and orcs. But, when the Russian empire is liquidated and Russians will be behind an iron wall for 100 years, there is a possibility that they may be reborn as people. At the moment I cannot call Russians people.
You Wilm remembered the German Na.zis. But I can assure you that even they were not orcs.
So please tell me that Ukrainians in general are not like you. Otherwise I will lose my faith in the whole situation.Yes it's true. You wrote everything correctly. :(
Europeans, start preparing parking spaces for Russian tanks!And give more parking spaces for the luxury cars of “poor Ukrainian refugees”!
https://valahia.news/rich-ukrainian-refugees-in-romania/
(https://i.postimg.cc/W1DVnWYL/5-min-768x370.jpg)
This comment can hardly be surpassed in cynicism!
What are you trying to say? That you can bomb someone because they have a Mercedes? Or that someone is not allowed to flee if they are bombed because they have a Mercedes? Or that all Ukrainians drive big cars?
I can do without such low-level comments!
And there are thousands of Tetjana Glvnianas out there ;)
Europeans, start preparing parking spaces for Russian tanks!And give more parking spaces for the luxury cars of “poor Ukrainian refugees”!
https://valahia.news/rich-ukrainian-refugees-in-romania/
(https://i.postimg.cc/W1DVnWYL/5-min-768x370.jpg)
This comment can hardly be surpassed in cynicism!
What are you trying to say? That you can bomb someone because they have a Mercedes? Or that someone is not allowed to flee if they are bombed because they have a Mercedes? Or that all Ukrainians drive big cars?
I can do without such low-level comments!
He is trying to say that rich Ukrainians do NOT go to war, they enjoy renting apartments all over Europe including about 5 luxury houses just in my street whil children of poor people are forcefully being sent to front against their will ;)
He is trying to say that the things that are going on include people like Tetiana Glyniana who is selling food supply's to Ukranian army at enormous prices that WE pay, she just bought 3 hotels in Croatia and quickly sold them after it leaked in Croatian media. She also bought herself no less than 1500 m2 home in Brela in first row next to the beach with money Ukraine is overpaying her for food that she sold for multiple times than retail price in small stores.
And there are thousands of Tetjana Glvnianas out there ;)
Oh really, that's really incredible! Jesus! How evil all the Ukrainians are! Unbelievable!
Meanwhile, the billionaire Russian oligarchs and their children are going directly and personally to the front to defend Russia against the evil Ukrainians, right? Because they would never have the heart to let the financially poor average Russian fight for their fortune. What good people the Russians are compared to the Ukrainians!
And there are thousands of very rich Russians out there ;)
And there are thousands of Tetjana Glvnianas out there ;)
Do you have any valid figures or other evidence for your assertion?
Oh really, that's really incredible! Jesus! How evil all the Ukrainians are! Unbelievable!
Meanwhile, the billionaire Russian oligarchs and their children are going directly and personally to the front to defend Russia against the evil Ukrainians, right? Because they would never have the heart to let the financially poor average Russian fight for their fortune. What good people the Russians are compared to the Ukrainians!
And there are thousands of very rich Russians out there ;)
Keep the focus on spending money on overpriced food so that private entities could get richer and buy hotels in in countries where taxpayers are pretty much forced to finance the war...more precisely Tetiana Glyniana and similar.
Tetjana is nicely living between Britain and Croatia, and she will never be accountable for her acts and nor will thousands like her.
And as I recall, we are not financing Russia ;)
;D ;D ;D
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12983807/BORIS-JOHNSON-negronis-Trump-presidency-just-world-needs.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12983807/BORIS-JOHNSON-negronis-Trump-presidency-just-world-needs.html)
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BORIS JOHNSON: The global wokerati are trembling so violently you can hear the ice tinkling in their negronis... but a Trump presidency could be just what the world needs.
This article is about why Biden and the Democrats are ass.holes, motherfuckers, turds, asss, shitass and blockheads. An article about why only Trump can restore justice in the world.
You're using Boris Johnson of all people for your argument here? ::)Compared to your Merkel and Scholz (friends of the Russians), really, who is Johnson...
Did you know that Trump has subsidized farmers - only in Iowa - with more money than the US has provided for Ukraine? You have an idea what "America First" will mean, don't you?Just so you know, 90% of the money Biden gives to Ukraine remains in the United States. The government pays all this money to factories in the United States so that these factories produce weapons. This is support for the American economy.
but a Trump presidency could be just what the world needs.
Zero Talent, did you draw it yourself? ;DNo, that's trump's secret peace plan being leaked. Don't you recognize the moron's handwriting and childish style?
::)Zero Talent, did you draw it yourself? ;DNo, that's trump's secret peace plan being leaked. Don't you recognize the moron's handwriting and childish style?
Anyway, you keep on forgetting that trump is a republican in name only.
In reality, he is maga populist and isolationist, who always admired putin.
He will certainly give putin what he wants and then chest-beat himself for having saved the world from WWWIII.
Even if the map is a joke, it is not far from the truth. Sometimes it takes jokes to wake people up.
You will, sooner or later, also wake up and learn all this the hard way, since now you are in the middle of a wet dream about trump and the republican party.
Did you know that Trump has subsidized farmers - only in Iowa - with more money than the US has provided for Ukraine? You have an idea what "America First" will mean, don't you?Just so you know, 90% of the money Biden gives to Ukraine remains in the United States. The government pays all this money to factories in the United States so that these factories produce weapons. This is support for the American economy.
I did not write there were problems. There are no problems. I saw that Wilm thinks (and this is how it is presented in the press) that money from Biden goes to the budget of Ukraine. Therefore, I explained how US money actually moves.Did you know that Trump has subsidized farmers - only in Iowa - with more money than the US has provided for Ukraine? You have an idea what "America First" will mean, don't you?Just so you know, 90% of the money Biden gives to Ukraine remains in the United States. The government pays all this money to factories in the United States so that these factories produce weapons. This is support for the American economy.
I have not checked whether this is true, but if so, isn't that what you want? Haven't you stated repeatedly in the past that the Ukraine does not need money, but weapons?
So where is the problem, when the US money is used to produce weapons for the Ukraine?
I did not write there were problems. There are no problems. I saw that Wilm thinks (and this is how it is presented in the press) that money from Biden goes to the budget of Ukraine. Therefore, I explained how US money actually moves.Did you know that Trump has subsidized farmers - only in Iowa - with more money than the US has provided for Ukraine? You have an idea what "America First" will mean, don't you?Just so you know, 90% of the money Biden gives to Ukraine remains in the United States. The government pays all this money to factories in the United States so that these factories produce weapons. This is support for the American economy.
I have not checked whether this is true, but if so, isn't that what you want? Haven't you stated repeatedly in the past that the Ukraine does not need money, but weapons?
So where is the problem, when the US money is used to produce weapons for the Ukraine?
Maybe not 90% stay in the USA, but 75%, for example. But I read approximately these numbers.
No.I did not write there were problems. There are no problems. I saw that Wilm thinks (and this is how it is presented in the press) that money from Biden goes to the budget of Ukraine. Therefore, I explained how US money actually moves.Did you know that Trump has subsidized farmers - only in Iowa - with more money than the US has provided for Ukraine? You have an idea what "America First" will mean, don't you?Just so you know, 90% of the money Biden gives to Ukraine remains in the United States. The government pays all this money to factories in the United States so that these factories produce weapons. This is support for the American economy.
I have not checked whether this is true, but if so, isn't that what you want? Haven't you stated repeatedly in the past that the Ukraine does not need money, but weapons?
So where is the problem, when the US money is used to produce weapons for the Ukraine?
Maybe not 90% stay in the USA, but 75%, for example. But I read approximately these numbers.
Then you withdraw your previous complaints that Biden mostly gives money instead of weapons?
Zero Talent, did you draw it yourself? ;D
He will certainly give putin what he wants and then chest-beat himself for having saved the world from WWWIII.
Why much of the world worries about a Trump victoryPart of the world is afraid of him. The Russians, Iran, North Korea, all countries that are part of the axis of evil are afraid of Trump. Trump is feared by European parasites who are friends and trade with the Russians and do not want to spend EU money on security. The EU is pursuing a policy of anti-Americanism, but at the same time the Euro-parasites want the US to provide them with security. With Trump in office, the US will not provide security for the EU unless the EU starts spending money on defense. The EU should also stop trading with russia. Otherwise, very quickly at least half of the EU will be occupied by the Russians. But judging by the opinions of EU residents, they have a good attitude towards Russian orcs and Na.zis, but a bad attitude towards the USA.
Why much of the world worries about a Trump victoryPart of the world is afraid of him. The Russians, Iran, North Korea, all countries that are part of the axis of evil are afraid of Trump. Trump is feared by European parasites who are friends and trade with the Russians and do not want to spend EU money on security. The EU is pursuing a policy of anti-Americanism, but at the same time the Euro-parasites want the US to provide them with security. With Trump in office, the US will not provide security for the EU unless the EU starts spending money on defense. The EU should also stop trading with russia. Otherwise, very quickly at least half of the EU will be occupied by the Russians. But judging by the opinions of EU residents, they have a good attitude towards Russian orcs and Na.zis, but a bad attitude towards the USA.
Look at the moron praising Orban, Ukraine's biggest enemy in Europe, the same way he is praising putin ("we're getting along fine, we're getting along very well"):>:( >:( >:(
https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1749104305947185414
During the time of the hero of Ukraine Stepan Bandera in the 40s and 50s of the 20th century, Ukrainian combat troops eliminated the Russian occupiers quite successfully. And this was with zero help from democratic countries.
I think that Ukraine can wait for the Republicans in 2025 without help from the EU.
Look at the moron praising Orban, Ukraine's biggest enemy in Europe, the same way he is praising putin ("we're getting along fine, we're getting along very well"):>:( >:( >:(
https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1749104305947185414
I saw it, I read it. But I haven’t reacted to Trump’s words for a long time. If Trump hadn't been president before, I would have thought he was an idiot. But he performed quite well as President of the United States.
He talks nonsense, but obviously for some purpose. I think he is more cunning and wants to achieve some electoral results for himself before the elections or to fool someone.
He takes actions that are unpredictable to anyone, he is not predictable.
I am only interested in the political results of the United States under Trump. And this can only be seen when he becomes president. I’m even sure that when Trump becomes president, he will be able to say idiotic things even then. But I don’t care what he says or will say, I’m only interested in the results of US policy.
Oh really, that's really incredible! Jesus! How evil all the Ukrainians are! Unbelievable!
Meanwhile, the billionaire Russian oligarchs and their children are going directly and personally to the front to defend Russia against the evil Ukrainians, right? Because they would never have the heart to let the financially poor average Russian fight for their fortune. What good people the Russians are compared to the Ukrainians!
And there are thousands of very rich Russians out there ;)
Keep the focus on spending money on overpriced food so that private entities could get richer and buy hotels in in countries where taxpayers are pretty much forced to finance the war...more precisely Tetiana Glyniana and similar.
Tetjana is nicely living between Britain and Croatia, and she will never be accountable for her acts and nor will thousands like her.
And as I recall, we are not financing Russia ;)
This is so wonderful! Great point! 👏👏👏
Are you now trying to say that putin's invasion of a sovereign country is justified by some weird ambition to exterminate corruption in a different country than russia, while russia is one of the most corrupt countries there is?
While putin is ruthlessly exterminating innocent civilians and children, you (like your russian friend zastavkin before) are constantly spinning and deflecting toward irrelevant matters, since you don't have any meaningful way to defend his murders and atrocities.
Look at the moron praising Orban, Ukraine's biggest enemy in Europe, the same way he is praising putin ("we're getting along fine, we're getting along very well"):>:( >:( >:(
https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1749104305947185414
I saw it, I read it. But I haven’t reacted to Trump’s words for a long time. If Trump hadn't been president before, I would have thought he was an idiot. But he performed quite well as President of the United States.
He talks nonsense, but obviously for some purpose. I think he is more cunning and wants to achieve some electoral results for himself before the elections or to fool someone.
He takes actions that are unpredictable to anyone, he is not predictable.
I am only interested in the political results of the United States under Trump. And this can only be seen when he becomes president. I’m even sure that when Trump becomes president, he will be able to say idiotic things even then. But I don’t care what he says or will say, I’m only interested in the results of US policy.
Head in the sand and hand in hand with the maga cult:
Part of the world is afraid of him. The Russians, Iran, North Korea, all countries that are part of the axis of evil are afraid of Trump.
With Trump in office, the US will not provide security for the EU unless the EU starts spending money on defense. The EU should also stop trading with Russia.
The truth about Trump's last term in office:
1. Trump was bad for the US and world economy.** Trump raised US Debt by nearly $8 trillion. In only 4 years he contributed to nearly 1/4 of its current national debt, more than any other president in that time frame. Excessive debt has a very negative impact on a country's economy, particularly mid- and long-term, and on other countries as well.
2. During his 4 years in office, his administration rolled back 100 environment rules and legislation. USA is currently facing a climate crisis according to a long-awaited federal climate report, (November 2023) which delivered a blunt warning: Rapidly curb planet-warming emissions or face dire consequences to human health, infrastructure and the economy. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-changes-threatens-every-facet-of-u-s-society-federal-report-warns/ (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-changes-threatens-every-facet-of-u-s-society-federal-report-warns/)
3. Trump's mental health can be a serious danger to America and the rest of the world. In Trumps final weeks in office, General Milley, head of the Pentagon's Joint Chief's had to stop Trump's 'going rogue' on China. "General Li, I want to assure you that the American government is stable, and everything is going to be okay," Milley told him. "We are not going to attack or conduct any kinetic operations against you." In a second call, Milley told Li, "We are 100 percent steady. Everything's fine. But democracy can be sloppy sometimes."
Milley made the second call because he believed Trump, enraged at his loss, had suffered a mental decline after the November 3 outcome — a view Milley shared with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. The authors of a book released in 2021 obtained a transcript of a call between Pelosi and Milley in which Pelosi told the general, "He's crazy. You know he's crazy," referring to Trump. https://www.voanews.com/a/6227396.html (https://www.voanews.com/a/6227396.html)
4. Trump wants USA to leave NATO. According to a recent POLITICO news report, during the 2020 World Economic Forum in Davos, then US President Donald Trump told European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, in a private meeting, the following: “you need to understand that if Europe is under attack we will never come to help you and to support you, and by the way NATO is dead, and we will leave, we will quit NATO.” https://www.weeklyblitz.net/featured/trump-tells-ursula-von-der-leyen-nato-is-dead-and-we-will-leave/ (https://www.weeklyblitz.net/featured/trump-tells-ursula-von-der-leyen-nato-is-dead-and-we-will-leave/)
** The problem with economies is that the economic cycle is on average about 8 years. Presidents often inherit the previous president's good - or bad - economic decisions at the beginning of their term. A president should be judged at the end of their term on whether they were good or bad for the economy.
Part of the world is afraid of him. The Russians, Iran, North Korea, all countries that are part of the axis of evil are afraid of Trump.
Good one! That made me laugh out loud!
He is completely in Putin's pocket and had a bromance with Kim Jong-Un - yes, they're totally afraid! He did assassinate an Iranian terrorist leader so that was something - so far without any negative consequences, maybe the Iranians would be afraid of having an unhinged lunatic in the White House again. But Putin? Get serious. Why would Putin spend so much time and effort to get Trump elected if he was afraid of him? Putin was much more afraid of Hillary Clinton than of Trump.With Trump in office, the US will not provide security for the EU unless the EU starts spending money on defense. The EU should also stop trading with Russia.
I agree with your second sentence above, but not the first. if Trump got back in he would pull out of NATO and hand Ukraine to his good buddy Putin on day one. His supporters would say what a good job he did ending the war. Maybe he would sit down with Putin and figure out how to divide up the rest of Europe as well. The only thing Orange Jesus cares about is himself - anyone who thinks otherwise is naive or deluded. Or just plain stupid.
Head in the sand and hand in hand with the maga cult:No, I roughly understand why Trump made this statement. But I won’t write my guesses just yet. Trump has already begun his policy, it will be fully visible only when he becomes president.
In my view, Trump is a person who craves recognition. It is his elixir of life.Wilm, the entire US military industry belongs to the Republicans. Money directed to military factories will give the Republicans orders and profits. The war in Ukraine and the sending of weapons to Ukraine is primarily beneficial only to the Republicans. And we also see this in the cowardly and hypocritical policies of Biden and the Democrats. It is simply not profitable for Democrats to spend a lot of money on weapons; this money ends up going to Republicans. ;D
How does he get this important drug?
If he gets rid of the Ukraine conflict as quickly as possible. Supporting Ukraine costs money. He lacks this money at home in the USA to be celebrated by his supporters and, maybe, his opponents. Ukraine only brings losses. Losses are bad for your own agenda.
Gains - that's what Trump needs. A few billion in subsidies for farmers, a few billion for the coal industry and so on. That lifts the mood in the USA. Ukraine is too far away and won't win votes. The music is playing at home. In the USA. America first.
And once people there are better off because they have more money in their pockets, the model works.
He probably doesn't care at all whether people in Europe are beating their heads in. He doesn't care about that. He is probably even aware that this could possibly have an impact on the USA. But it's still so secondary to his ego that he doesn't care for the time being. The cheers of the crowd come first.
if Trump got back in he would pull out of NATO and hand Ukraine to his good buddy Putin on day one.::) ::) ::)
The President of the United States is, first and foremost, the President of the entire planet earth. So it was and so it is. Therefore, let US citizens decide for themselves who their president will be.
;D ;D ;DOn board were 65 captive soldiers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, as well as three accompanying persons and six crew members.
Il-76 aircraft crashes in Russia's Belgorod Oblast: Ukrainian Armed Forces confirm operation.
There were also 63 Russian terrorists on the plane.
Why say anything to terrorists and war criminals? The fate of the Russian empire and the fate of the Chinese empire depends only on US policy.The President of the United States is, first and foremost, the President of the entire planet earth. So it was and so it is. Therefore, let US citizens decide for themselves who their president will be.
What a strange contradiction.
Also go tell the Xi or Putin that POTUS is their president and see how that goes.
Head in the sand and hand in hand with the maga cult:No, I roughly understand why Trump made this statement. But I won’t write my guesses just yet. Trump has already begun his policy, it will be fully visible only when he becomes president.
.Is there something you wanted to tell me?
Trump is a Republican, so there is trust in him and there is trust in his party.Head in the sand and hand in hand with the maga cult:No, I roughly understand why Trump made this statement. But I won’t write my guesses just yet. Trump has already begun his policy, it will be fully visible only when he becomes president.
Right. QAnon always claimed that he is a messiah speaking a cryptic language understood only by a few. 🤣
We don't understand what he meant when he praised Ukraine's biggest enemy in Europe, but you do, because you know the deep meaning of his words filled with wisdom.
Welcome to the maga cult!
And btw, maga = Make Ukraine Small Again.
Although most things have to be repeated to make an impression on you, this was simply a double post made when attempting to refresh a frozen page..Is there something you wanted to tell me?
;D ;D ;D
Ok.Although most things have to be repeated to make an impression on you, this was simply a double post made when attempting to refresh a frozen page..Is there something you wanted to tell me?
;D ;D ;D
You don't have to search for its hidden meaning, the same way you do when trying to explain trump's praise for Ukraine's enemies, Orban and putin.
It was not a QAnon drop.
;D ;D ;DOn board were 65 captive soldiers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, as well as three accompanying persons and six crew members.
Il-76 aircraft crashes in Russia's Belgorod Oblast: Ukrainian Armed Forces confirm operation.
There were also 63 Russian terrorists on the plane.
They were transported for exchange.
The exchange of captive between Russia and Ukraine could take place according to the formula 192 to 192. Another Il-76 plane with 80 Ukrainian captive turned back over the Belgorod region after the first plane crash. :'(
The Ukrainian leadership was well aware of the impending exchange and was informed of how the prisoners would be delivered. But the IL-76 plane was shot down by three missiles, either with anti-aircraft missile systems or Patriot, or with German-made IRIS.
AMK2022, I read thepropaganda from the Democratsnon-political Truth about Trump's last term in office that you published here. ;D
Trump is a Republican, so there is trust in him and there is trust in his party.Head in the sand and hand in hand with the maga cult:No, I roughly understand why Trump made this statement. But I won’t write my guesses just yet. Trump has already begun his policy, it will be fully visible only when he becomes president.
Right. QAnon always claimed that he is a messiah speaking a cryptic language understood only by a few. 🤣
We don't understand what he meant when he praised Ukraine's biggest enemy in Europe, but you do, because you know the deep meaning of his words filled with wisdom.
Welcome to the maga cult!
And btw, maga = Make Ukraine Small Again.
I have zero trust in any democrat.
The future will show why Trump praises Orban. No conclusions can be drawn yet.
The biggest difference between you and me is that you long for Trump, while for me it's an absolute horror scenario. It's not so much about Democrats and Republicans for me. There are pros and cons in both camps. But Trump is a huge threat to us all!
All politicians lie, and Biden is the number one liar.Trump is a Republican, so there is trust in him and there is trust in his party.Head in the sand and hand in hand with the maga cult:No, I roughly understand why Trump made this statement. But I won’t write my guesses just yet. Trump has already begun his policy, it will be fully visible only when he becomes president.
Right. QAnon always claimed that he is a messiah speaking a cryptic language understood only by a few. 🤣
We don't understand what he meant when he praised Ukraine's biggest enemy in Europe, but you do, because you know the deep meaning of his words filled with wisdom.
Welcome to the maga cult!
And btw, maga = Make Ukraine Small Again.
I have zero trust in any democrat.
The future will show why Trump praises Orban. No conclusions can be drawn yet.
Trump lies at least as much as Putin and the Russians. And large sections of the Republicans support or condone these lies.
You condemn the lies of the Russians. You accept Trump's lies. Do you realize that the two are cut from the same cloth in many respects?
You're just blind to the truth with your tunnel vision. Enlightenment will come for you too. But it will not be a pleasant experience. At least not if Trump wins.
The biggest difference between you and me is that you long for Trump, while for me it's an absolute horror scenario. It's not so much about Democrats and Republicans for me. There are pros and cons in both camps. But Trump is a huge threat to us all!
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The biggest difference between you and me is that you long for Trump, while for me it's an absolute horror scenario. It's not so much about Democrats and Republicans for me. There are pros and cons in both camps. But Trump is a huge threat to us all!
+100
Trump is a Republican, so there is trust in him and there is trust in his party.Head in the sand and hand in hand with the maga cult:No, I roughly understand why Trump made this statement. But I won’t write my guesses just yet. Trump has already begun his policy, it will be fully visible only when he becomes president.
Right. QAnon always claimed that he is a messiah speaking a cryptic language understood only by a few. 🤣
We don't understand what he meant when he praised Ukraine's biggest enemy in Europe, but you do, because you know the deep meaning of his words filled with wisdom.
Welcome to the maga cult!
And btw, maga = Make Ukraine Small Again.
I have zero trust in any democrat.
The future will show why Trump praises Orban. No conclusions can be drawn yet.
Trump lies at least as much as Putin and the Russians. And large sections of the Republicans support or condone these lies.
You condemn the lies of the Russians. You accept Trump's lies. Do you realize that the two are cut from the same cloth in many respects?
You're just blind to the truth with your tunnel vision. Enlightenment will come for you too. But it will not be a pleasant experience. At least not if Trump wins.
The biggest difference between you and me is that you long for Trump, while for me it's an absolute horror scenario. It's not so much about Democrats and Republicans for me. There are pros and cons in both camps. But Trump is a huge threat to us all!
Of course Trump is a threat to parasites in Germany.
There is information that Democrats are funding Nikki Haley. >:( >:( >:(
"I think we should start pushing Nikki #Haley2024 on Twitter. Because she is the best solution for 🇺🇸 & 🇺🇦 .
1. Biden has gambled away American resolve and deterred himself from making 🇺🇦 win
2. Trump is doom
3. Haley will unite the GOP behind 🇺🇦 because she is from the party"
+100
https://twitter.com/i/status/1744512622194528333
Nikki Haley wants to give Ukraine a lot of weapons!
+100
1. I don't have a curator. But I think that you have a curator. ;DThere is information that Democrats are funding Nikki Haley. >:( >:( >:(
And now your are flip-flopping on Nikki Haley. 🤣
A couple of weeks ago she was the best thing since slice bread."I think we should start pushing Nikki #Haley2024 on Twitter. Because she is the best solution for 🇺🇸 & 🇺🇦 .
1. Biden has gambled away American resolve and deterred himself from making 🇺🇦 win
2. Trump is doom
3. Haley will unite the GOP behind 🇺🇦 because she is from the party"
+100https://twitter.com/i/status/1744512622194528333
Nikki Haley wants to give Ukraine a lot of weapons!
+100
You don't even have your own opinions, let alone be aware of realities.
You only post, unchewed, what your handler is asking you to post.
And more about the parasites...This is not enough. This is very, very little. Everything listed there is prepared only for defense, and even then only for a short time.
Military aid form Germany
https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-de/schwerpunkte/krieg-in-der-ukraine/lieferungen-ukraine-2054514 (https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-de/schwerpunkte/krieg-in-der-ukraine/lieferungen-ukraine-2054514)
1. I don't have a curator. ;DThere is information that Democrats are funding Nikki Haley. >:( >:( >:(
And now your are flip-flopping on Nikki Haley. 🤣
A couple of weeks ago she was the best thing since slice bread."I think we should start pushing Nikki #Haley2024 on Twitter. Because she is the best solution for 🇺🇸 & 🇺🇦 .
1. Biden has gambled away American resolve and deterred himself from making 🇺🇦 win
2. Trump is doom
3. Haley will unite the GOP behind 🇺🇦 because she is from the party"
+100https://twitter.com/i/status/1744512622194528333
Nikki Haley wants to give Ukraine a lot of weapons!
+100
You don't even have your own opinions, let alone be aware of realities.
You only post, unchewed, what your handler is asking you to post.
Everyone can see your "curator" asking you to promote Nikki.Zero Talent, you are clearly obsessed with conspiracy theories. I had nothing against Nikki, the main thing for me is that the Democrats do not win the elections. It's my personal opinion. If there is a choice between Nikki and Biden, I will wish Nikki victory. But as I see it, Trump is ahead of Nikki. Therefore, Nikki is eliminated from the presidential race.
Even if that person is not your info-war handler, even if this is not just another blunder you made by revealing it, you obviously have a "curator".
Obviously, you don't have your own opinions, you don't think, you refuse to use logic and common sense, you bury your head in the sand, simply parroting other people's opinions expressed inside your information bubble.
1. I don't have a curator. ;DThere is information that Democrats are funding Nikki Haley. >:( >:( >:(
And now your are flip-flopping on Nikki Haley. 🤣
A couple of weeks ago she was the best thing since slice bread."I think we should start pushing Nikki #Haley2024 on Twitter. Because she is the best solution for 🇺🇸 & 🇺🇦 .
1. Biden has gambled away American resolve and deterred himself from making 🇺🇦 win
2. Trump is doom
3. Haley will unite the GOP behind 🇺🇦 because she is from the party"
+100https://twitter.com/i/status/1744512622194528333
Nikki Haley wants to give Ukraine a lot of weapons!
+100
You don't even have your own opinions, let alone be aware of realities.
You only post, unchewed, what your handler is asking you to post.
Obviously, you don't have your own opinions, you don't think, you refuse to use logic and common sense, you bury your head in the sand, simply parroting other people's opinions expressed inside your information bubble.
Perhaps because it is easier for Biden to win the election against her than against Trump.?
the first parking lots to be created would be in Ukraine. That much is certain.+100
Obviously, you don't have your own opinions, you don't think, you refuse to use logic and common sense, you bury your head in the sand, simply parroting other people's opinions expressed inside your information bubble.Reading you, I only see what all the trolls from the Democratic Party write. You don’t write anything new, you repeat what your fellow party members say.
FYI, All polls are saying that in a head-to-head competition, Nikki will crush Biden with a double digit gap in the decisive key states battles (and also nationaly), while Trump only holds a minimal advantage over Biden, if any.Maybe yes, maybe not.
As usual, you have no idea what you are talking about.What a huge ego and conceit! Are you by any chance the Messiah?
You regualry make wrong statements, easily debunkable by anyone willing to do some minimal homework, before posting non-sense.
Obviously, you don't have your own opinions, you don't think, you refuse to use logic and common sense, you bury your head in the sand, simply parroting other people's opinions expressed inside your information bubble.Reading you, I only see what all the trolls from the Democratic Party write. You don’t write anything new, you repeat what your fellow party members say.
FYI, All polls are saying that in a head-to-head competition, Nikki will crush Biden with a double digit gap in the decisive key states battles (and also nationaly), while Trump only holds a minimal advantage over Biden, if any.Maybe yes, maybe not.
In any case, she will not win against Trump, which means she will not participate in the elections. Therefore, I will not waste my time on this woman and understand her motives and her sponsors.
.... I am also posting this for possible discussion....
Perhaps because it is easier for Biden to win the election against her than against Trump.?
As usual, you have no idea what you are talking about.
You regularly make wrong statements, easily debunkable by anyone willing to do some minimal homework, before posting non-sense.
FYI, All polls are saying that in a head-to-head competition, Nikki will crush Biden with a double digit gap in the decisive key states battles (and also nationaly), while Trump only holds a minimal advantage over Biden, if any.
I already told that I would also vote for her, given the chance. Like me a majority of independents, who usually decide the winner.
The same happens with some traditional donors who normally endorsed democrats.
She is also endorsed by big pocket Republicans donors, like the libertarian Charles Koch among many others.
This is because between the 3 of them she is the best candidate.
The market needs stability and predictability instead of swings triggered by trump's childish and moronic temper tantrums.
And Ukraine needs more than anyone else a non-trump presidency.
Trump is also beating Biden in the polls. And what?FYI, All polls are saying that in a head-to-head competition, Nikki will crush Biden with a double digit gap in the decisive key states battles (and also nationaly), while Trump only holds a minimal advantage over Biden, if any.Maybe yes, maybe not.
In any case, she will not win against Trump, which means she will not participate in the elections. Therefore, I will not waste my time on this woman and understand her motives and her sponsors.
No. It's not a maybe. It's definitely a yes.
You can't deny the polls. These are hard numbers, not opinions.
You don't waste time debating Nikki's sponsors, but you do exactly that, being the one who posted unchewed information about it, a few posts above.
Now, after chewing it a bit you want to find an exit, instead of admitting you were confused.
What you are looking for - stocker2014 - are autocrats who will either eliminate Russia and the Russian people themselves or someone who will give Ukraine the military means to do it themselves. And that is also why you support Trump so vehemently, because you believe that one insane despot will wipe out the other. You hope the same for China.Absolutely not the right point of view. The Democrats' policies will lead to the Russians occupying the EU or half of the EU. That's why I support the Republicans. And as I already wrote, I will support any Republican president. And I don't think Trump is crazy. He lies like all politicians, he is a magician, you need to watch his hands.
I repeat myself: what is happening to Ukraine is evil, unjust and a catastrophe. And I very much hope for a good outcome for Ukraine!
But what you think is just as bad as what the Russians are doing. And you obviously thought that way before the attack. If it were up to you, you would raze Russia to the ground with nuclear weapons. And thus destroy all the people who never want this war - not even in Russia. That's why you're not one bit better than Putin. You are just as much of an orc as you condemn others with your pigeonhole thinking.
I'm not confused, I posted the article exactly the same way I post all the other articles here.
Is posting an article a repetition of someone’s opinion?I'm not confused, I posted the article exactly the same way I post all the other articles here.
Yes, exactly that.
As I said, you are posting them unchewed, unverified, without doing your homework.
You are only parroting someone's opinions, flip-flopping as the wind blows.
Is posting an article a repetition of someone’s opinion?I'm not confused, I posted the article exactly the same way I post all the other articles here.
Yes, exactly that.
As I said, you are posting them unchewed, unverified, without doing your homework.
You are only parroting someone's opinions, flip-flopping as the wind blows.
Teacher! Come on, don't give me homework! ;D
Yes, articles are written by authors. Yes, we all learn from someone else's articles.
If you have done your homework, you can write your article. ;D
so often proven wrong.Conclusions:
The democrats are the enemies of the USA. An open border with Mexico is a threat to US security.
Remove Democrats from power! Impeachment to Biden!
What did Biden do as president anyway?....
The democrats are the enemies of the USA. An open border with Mexico is a threat to US security.
Remove Democrats from power! Impeachment to Biden!
What did Biden do as president anyway?....
The democrats are the enemies of the USA. An open border with Mexico is a threat to US security.
Remove Democrats from power! Impeachment to Biden!
What did Biden do as president anyway?....
I've already shown you above with actual footage from yesterday that Republicans are coming out to say how 'appalled' they are that Trump is blocking the border negotiations.
It was all over the news yesterday.
Here in Germany, those who support Trump are also those who support:Well done Trump! Fooled them perfectly!
- against taking in refugees from Ukraine
- speak out against financial support for Ukraine
- speak out against military support for Ukraine
- want to buy gas from Russia again
etc.
These are also those who want more proximity to Russia, less democracy, fewer foreigners - in short: Germany first.
Zero TalentHe's a Democratic Party troll. ;D ;D ;D
Here in Germany, those who support Trump are also those who support:Well done Trump! Fooled them perfectly!
- against taking in refugees from Ukraine
- speak out against financial support for Ukraine
- speak out against military support for Ukraine
- want to buy gas from Russia again
etc.
These are also those who want more proximity to Russia, less democracy, fewer foreigners - in short: Germany first.
This is the point, to take the votes of those who are your enemies. ;D
Widely statistically validated observation: the ignorant & resentful fool has his cognitive circuits reversed: he hates those who might help him and adores those who bury him.Yes, Ukrainians are definitely fools, if you follow your logic. Instead of dealing with such “allies” as US democrats and parasites in the EU, they should let the Russian army go where it wants and not offer any resistance.
Widely statistically validated observation: the ignorant & resentful fool has his cognitive circuits reversed: he hates those who might help him and adores those who bury him.Yes, Ukrainians are definitely fools, if you follow your logic. Instead of dealing with such “allies” as US democrats and parasites in the EU, they should let the Russian army go where it wants and not offer any resistance.
Someone who writes that a person belongs in the electric chair because he accepts that the Nation Russia exists has such a radical mindset that any discussion with him must be stopped!1. Euro parasites and US Democrats do not give Ukraine money for weapons. You yourself know this well and you yourself wrote about it. EU money is spent only on social needs.
Someone with such ideas belongs in prison himself!
BTW:
Incidentally, the parasites would be happy if the money they donate to Ukraine for weapons was actually spent on them and did not end up in the hands of corrupt Ukrainian civil servants.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68120973 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68120973)
The fight against corruption in Ukraine is also the basis for Ukraine being able to become part of the parasites in the future, i.e. the EU, which Ukraine has wanted for years.
Yes, fools are all the same. You're right. I agree that Ukrainians look like fools. This is true. And I am also a fool accordingly. I do not argue.Widely statistically validated observation: the ignorant & resentful fool has his cognitive circuits reversed: he hates those who might help him and adores those who bury him.Yes, Ukrainians are definitely fools, if you follow your logic. Instead of dealing with such “allies” as US democrats and parasites in the EU, they should let the Russian army go where it wants and not offer any resistance.
I'm only noticing how ignorant and resentful fools also active on this forum are matching an observation valid for all ignorant and resentful fools worldwide (regardless of their nationality, gender, skin color, religion, etc...)
Someone who writes that a person belongs in the electric chair because he accepts that the Nation Russia exists has such a radical mindset that any discussion with him must be stopped!1. Euro parasites and US Democrats do not give Ukraine money for weapons. You yourself know this well and you yourself wrote about it. EU money is spent only on social needs.
Someone with such ideas belongs in prison himself!
BTW:
Incidentally, the parasites would be happy if the money they donate to Ukraine for weapons was actually spent on them and did not end up in the hands of corrupt Ukrainian civil servants.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68120973 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68120973)
The fight against corruption in Ukraine is also the basis for Ukraine being able to become part of the parasites in the future, i.e. the EU, which Ukraine has wanted for years.
2. Ukraine has never been a parasite.
3. Euro parasites, the USA, Canada, Great Britain are pursuing a cunning bloody policy. Ukraine does not receive the necessary weapons, and normal sanctions are not imposed against the Russians. The result of this policy is the mass death of Ukrainians every day. The EU uses Ukrainians as meat to protect its borders. Attitudes towards Ukrainians as slaves during the slave system. Treated like an inferior race. Hold a stick and go to war against a rifle, this is how it all looks.
Such a policy is called a crime, and in a normal court Biden would have received not only a prison sentence, but also the electric chair. Considering how many Ukrainians died and cities destroyed.
4. Yes, you read about corruption in the purchase of weapons. But this is Ukrainian money that was stolen, this is not EU or US money. Therefore, Ukraine will figure it out on its own. The thieves will be shot.
Yes, fools are all the same. You're right. I agree that Ukrainians look like fools. This is true. And I am also a fool accordingly. I do not argue.Widely statistically validated observation: the ignorant & resentful fool has his cognitive circuits reversed: he hates those who might help him and adores those who bury him.Yes, Ukrainians are definitely fools, if you follow your logic. Instead of dealing with such “allies” as US democrats and parasites in the EU, they should let the Russian army go where it wants and not offer any resistance.
I'm only noticing how ignorant and resentful fools also active on this forum are matching an observation valid for all ignorant and resentful fools worldwide (regardless of their nationality, gender, skin color, religion, etc...)
The same can be said about you. Of course, I will not write insults against you here. I'm not you.Yes, fools are all the same. You're right. I agree that Ukrainians look like fools. This is true. And I am also a fool accordingly. I do not argue.Widely statistically validated observation: the ignorant & resentful fool has his cognitive circuits reversed: he hates those who might help him and adores those who bury him.Yes, Ukrainians are definitely fools, if you follow your logic. Instead of dealing with such “allies” as US democrats and parasites in the EU, they should let the Russian army go where it wants and not offer any resistance.
I'm only noticing how ignorant and resentful fools also active on this forum are matching an observation valid for all ignorant and resentful fools worldwide (regardless of their nationality, gender, skin color, religion, etc...)
Logic defies you, as usual.
Ukrainians as a nation are smart, very, very, very brave and grateful.
Obviously, certain individuals are not, and any presence of some random ignorant and resentful fool in this forum would rather confirm an unfortunate exception, instead of the rule.
1. You should write not Selenskiyj, but Zelenskyy. Write correctly.Someone who writes that a person belongs in the electric chair because he accepts that the Nation Russia exists has such a radical mindset that any discussion with him must be stopped!1. Euro parasites and US Democrats do not give Ukraine money for weapons. You yourself know this well and you yourself wrote about it. EU money is spent only on social needs.
Someone with such ideas belongs in prison himself!
BTW:
Incidentally, the parasites would be happy if the money they donate to Ukraine for weapons was actually spent on them and did not end up in the hands of corrupt Ukrainian civil servants.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68120973 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68120973)
The fight against corruption in Ukraine is also the basis for Ukraine being able to become part of the parasites in the future, i.e. the EU, which Ukraine has wanted for years.
2. Ukraine has never been a parasite.
3. Euro parasites, the USA, Canada, Great Britain are pursuing a cunning bloody policy. Ukraine does not receive the necessary weapons, and normal sanctions are not imposed against the Russians. The result of this policy is the mass death of Ukrainians every day. The EU uses Ukrainians as meat to protect its borders. Attitudes towards Ukrainians as slaves during the slave system. Treated like an inferior race. Hold a stick and go to war against a rifle, this is how it all looks.
Such a policy is called a crime, and in a normal court Biden would have received not only a prison sentence, but also the electric chair. Considering how many Ukrainians died and cities destroyed.
4. Yes, you read about corruption in the purchase of weapons. But this is Ukrainian money that was stolen, this is not EU or US money. Therefore, Ukraine will figure it out on its own. The thieves will be shot.
I have just watched the interview that Caren Miosga conducted with President Selenskiyj.
I'm very pleased that Selenskyj is equipped with a great deal of vision and intelligence - he's way ahead of you! That's why he assesses many issues much more wisely than you do. This also includes his attitude towards the democrats, which is the opposite of yours.
So. The United States, under the leadership of Biden and the Democrats, is pursuing a completely cowardly and criminal policy towards the world and its allies. We all saw how the Americans cowardly fled from Afghanistan and left a lot of equipment and weapons for the Taliban terrorists. Now we see how the United States is planning to escape from Syria and Iraq. All terrorists see the cowardice of the United States and are already striking US military bases, to which there are no answers from the United States. The USA looks like a dog that has its tail between its legs and runs and runs. When the Russians begin to occupy the EU, the Americans will be the first to flee Europe. All this is true and reality if democrats are in power.
Therefore it is necessary:
1. Ban the Democratic Party in the USA.
2. Put Biden in jail.
If Trump just talked, then Biden did and did everything very badly. As I already said, I don’t care what Trump says, the main thing is what he actually does.So. The United States, under the leadership of Biden and the Democrats, is pursuing a completely cowardly and criminal policy towards the world and its allies. We all saw how the Americans cowardly fled from Afghanistan and left a lot of equipment and weapons for the Taliban terrorists. Now we see how the United States is planning to escape from Syria and Iraq. All terrorists see the cowardice of the United States and are already striking US military bases, to which there are no answers from the United States. The USA looks like a dog that has its tail between its legs and runs and runs. When the Russians begin to occupy the EU, the Americans will be the first to flee Europe. All this is true and reality if democrats are in power.
Therefore it is necessary:
1. Ban the Democratic Party in the USA.
2. Put Biden in jail.
2020 Trump/Afghanistan:
In February 2020, the US government under then President Donald Trump agreed with the Taliban to withdraw all US and NATO troops by May 1, 2021.
2019 Trump/Syria
"Syria was supposed to be a short-term mission," Trump said at an impromptu press conference this afternoon: "I promised during the election campaign that I would bring our troops home." "The USA is 7,000 miles away," said the US President. The problems should now be solved by the neighboring countries, he demanded."
2021 Trump/Iraq
In the fall, Biden's predecessor Donald Trump ordered the halving of American troops from around 5,000 to around 2,500 military personnel.
If Trump just talked, then Biden did and did everything very badly. As I already said, I don’t care what Trump says, the main thing is what he actually does.So. The United States, under the leadership of Biden and the Democrats, is pursuing a completely cowardly and criminal policy towards the world and its allies. We all saw how the Americans cowardly fled from Afghanistan and left a lot of equipment and weapons for the Taliban terrorists. Now we see how the United States is planning to escape from Syria and Iraq. All terrorists see the cowardice of the United States and are already striking US military bases, to which there are no answers from the United States. The USA looks like a dog that has its tail between its legs and runs and runs. When the Russians begin to occupy the EU, the Americans will be the first to flee Europe. All this is true and reality if democrats are in power.
Therefore it is necessary:
1. Ban the Democratic Party in the USA.
2. Put Biden in jail.
2020 Trump/Afghanistan:
In February 2020, the US government under then President Donald Trump agreed with the Taliban to withdraw all US and NATO troops by May 1, 2021.
2019 Trump/Syria
"Syria was supposed to be a short-term mission," Trump said at an impromptu press conference this afternoon: "I promised during the election campaign that I would bring our troops home." "The USA is 7,000 miles away," said the US President. The problems should now be solved by the neighboring countries, he demanded."
2021 Trump/Iraq
In the fall, Biden's predecessor Donald Trump ordered the halving of American troops from around 5,000 to around 2,500 military personnel.
But Trump can speak for different purposes. Words are not actions.
And they are judged in court not for words, but for actions and policies.
1. There is no need to attribute Biden's crimes to Trump.If Trump just talked, then Biden did and did everything very badly. As I already said, I don’t care what Trump says, the main thing is what he actually does.So. The United States, under the leadership of Biden and the Democrats, is pursuing a completely cowardly and criminal policy towards the world and its allies. We all saw how the Americans cowardly fled from Afghanistan and left a lot of equipment and weapons for the Taliban terrorists. Now we see how the United States is planning to escape from Syria and Iraq. All terrorists see the cowardice of the United States and are already striking US military bases, to which there are no answers from the United States. The USA looks like a dog that has its tail between its legs and runs and runs. When the Russians begin to occupy the EU, the Americans will be the first to flee Europe. All this is true and reality if democrats are in power.
Therefore it is necessary:
1. Ban the Democratic Party in the USA.
2. Put Biden in jail.
2020 Trump/Afghanistan:
In February 2020, the US government under then President Donald Trump agreed with the Taliban to withdraw all US and NATO troops by May 1, 2021.
2019 Trump/Syria
"Syria was supposed to be a short-term mission," Trump said at an impromptu press conference this afternoon: "I promised during the election campaign that I would bring our troops home." "The USA is 7,000 miles away," said the US President. The problems should now be solved by the neighboring countries, he demanded."
2021 Trump/Iraq
In the fall, Biden's predecessor Donald Trump ordered the halving of American troops from around 5,000 to around 2,500 military personnel.
But Trump can speak for different purposes. Words are not actions.
And they are judged in court not for words, but for actions and policies.
Trump didn't talk. He did it. In Afghanistan the troops were withdrawn during his reign. In Irak they were halved during his reign. But since you build your own truth, you will once again not want to accept it.
I’m must say that Stoker2014 spreads really strange views and propaganda without thinking what it is going on… sadly, young population of Ukraine have already being out of army potential, during last two years… I really don’t know why is goverment insisting in weapons and not protecting demographic potential…?! Russia have weeked, but it’s enormous potential can’t be beaten without losing everything you got now…::) ::) ::)
People of Ukraine in Germany and other countries must be thankful, because those countries gave them really all they need at begining of this war… and with all weapons they have sent, simply they are not doing favor to thise who have stayed in Ukraine…
You are very wrong, sadly I do know what war is and that human lives are more precious than any teritory in the world…I already understood this. The EU and NATO do not plan to fight. That’s why I’m writing here that EU countries need to prepare parking lots for Russian tanks.
If Trump just talked, then Biden did and did everything very badly. As I already said, I don’t care what Trump says, the main thing is what he actually does.So. The United States, under the leadership of Biden and the Democrats, is pursuing a completely cowardly and criminal policy towards the world and its allies. We all saw how the Americans cowardly fled from Afghanistan and left a lot of equipment and weapons for the Taliban terrorists. Now we see how the United States is planning to escape from Syria and Iraq. All terrorists see the cowardice of the United States and are already striking US military bases, to which there are no answers from the United States. The USA looks like a dog that has its tail between its legs and runs and runs. When the Russians begin to occupy the EU, the Americans will be the first to flee Europe. All this is true and reality if democrats are in power.
Therefore it is necessary:
1. Ban the Democratic Party in the USA.
2. Put Biden in jail.
2020 Trump/Afghanistan:
In February 2020, the US government under then President Donald Trump agreed with the Taliban to withdraw all US and NATO troops by May 1, 2021.
2019 Trump/Syria
"Syria was supposed to be a short-term mission," Trump said at an impromptu press conference this afternoon: "I promised during the election campaign that I would bring our troops home." "The USA is 7,000 miles away," said the US President. The problems should now be solved by the neighboring countries, he demanded."
2021 Trump/Iraq
In the fall, Biden's predecessor Donald Trump ordered the halving of American troops from around 5,000 to around 2,500 military personnel.
But Trump can speak for different purposes. Words are not actions.
And they are judged in court not for words, but for actions and policies.
Trump didn't talk. He did it. In Afghanistan the troops were withdrawn during his reign. In Irak they were halved during his reign. But since you build your own truth, you will once again not want to accept it.
1. There is no need to attribute Biden's crimes to Trump.
2. Trump could reduce the number of troops. Reducing this does not mean withdrawing troops.
For sure, there will not be Russian tanks in EU… Russia have lost their power significantly, but Ukraine can’t beat their potential in long term… Patriots and F16s are expensive toys and not ment to be used in a way Ukraine needs it… even with experienced personel and pilots , neither 150 F35 will help Ukraine… but, for sure can prolong war and not in Ukraine and Russias favor…In Ukraine they don’t predict or guess. Ukraine is at war. 2 years ago, all Western “experts” gave Ukraine 3 days and Kyiv would be taken, the country would be occupied. The Russians were called the "second army" of the world. As we see, the reality is completely different.
I have already written that reducing troops and increasing them at any time is a normal and correct policy. Well, what Trump “promised” there, of course, makes me very happy. Do you believe what Trump says and promises? ;D ;D ;DIf Trump just talked, then Biden did and did everything very badly. As I already said, I don’t care what Trump says, the main thing is what he actually does.So. The United States, under the leadership of Biden and the Democrats, is pursuing a completely cowardly and criminal policy towards the world and its allies. We all saw how the Americans cowardly fled from Afghanistan and left a lot of equipment and weapons for the Taliban terrorists. Now we see how the United States is planning to escape from Syria and Iraq. All terrorists see the cowardice of the United States and are already striking US military bases, to which there are no answers from the United States. The USA looks like a dog that has its tail between its legs and runs and runs. When the Russians begin to occupy the EU, the Americans will be the first to flee Europe. All this is true and reality if democrats are in power.
Therefore it is necessary:
1. Ban the Democratic Party in the USA.
2. Put Biden in jail.
2020 Trump/Afghanistan:
In February 2020, the US government under then President Donald Trump agreed with the Taliban to withdraw all US and NATO troops by May 1, 2021.
2019 Trump/Syria
"Syria was supposed to be a short-term mission," Trump said at an impromptu press conference this afternoon: "I promised during the election campaign that I would bring our troops home." "The USA is 7,000 miles away," said the US President. The problems should now be solved by the neighboring countries, he demanded."
2021 Trump/Iraq
In the fall, Biden's predecessor Donald Trump ordered the halving of American troops from around 5,000 to around 2,500 military personnel.
But Trump can speak for different purposes. Words are not actions.
And they are judged in court not for words, but for actions and policies.
Trump didn't talk. He did it. In Afghanistan the troops were withdrawn during his reign. In Irak they were halved during his reign. But since you build your own truth, you will once again not want to accept it.
1. There is no need to attribute Biden's crimes to Trump.
2. Trump could reduce the number of troops. Reducing this does not mean withdrawing troops.
When Trump came to power in 2017, 14,000 US soldiers were stationed in Afghanistan. When Biden became president in January, there were only 2,500 US soldiers in Afghanistan left.
Trump reached an agreement with the Taliban terrorists in which the Taliban promised to protect the USA (and its allies) from al-Qaeda terrorists. In return, the USA is withdrawing its troops.
Reducing the international US troop presence is one of US President Donald Trump's foreign policy priorities and was already one of his election campaign promises in 2016.
In 2018, 5,000 to 6,000 US soldiers were still stationed in Iraq. Trump reduced this to 2,500.
But since you - like Donald Trump - are a fan of "alternative truths", you will probably stick to your statement.
I'm not you.
Biden will not start any war. He is a coward, a criminal and a friend of the Russians.
The US will continue to look like clowns.
Biden will not start any war. He is a coward, a criminal and a friend of the Russians.
The US will continue to look like clowns.
You are again ill informed on the presidential powers in the US, making YOU look like a clown.
The US is NOT a dictatorship. Biden CANNOT start any wars. ONLY the Cogress has this authority. The president is then empowered by the Congress to lead the war effort as the Commander in Chief.
He only has the power to veto the decision made by the Congres, but, with sufficient support, the Congres can overrule the presidential veto.
This is how democracies work.
From my point of view you would have to write: "I have a very bad attitude towards democracy and consider it evil."1. In this topic we did not discuss democracy and attitudes towards it.
There are thieves not only in Ukraine, as we see.
From my point of view you would have to write: "I have a very bad attitude towards democracy and consider it evil."1. In this topic we did not discuss democracy and attitudes towards it.
2. I have a good attitude towards democracy.
3. The Republican Party is also very good about democracy.
If you think that some actions of the Republicans are not democratic, write your complaints here.
The third world war is fought to protect democracy. Ukraine defends democracy from Russian totalitarianism, fascism and Na.z.ism.
I will not now justify or not justify the storming of the Capitol. If you believe the liars (and Russian friends) Democrats, they won the election. If you believe Trump, he won the election.From my point of view you would have to write: "I have a very bad attitude towards democracy and consider it evil."1. In this topic we did not discuss democracy and attitudes towards it.
2. I have a good attitude towards democracy.
3. The Republican Party is also very good about democracy.
If you think that some actions of the Republicans are not democratic, write your complaints here.
The third world war is fought to protect democracy. Ukraine defends democracy from Russian totalitarianism, fascism and Na.z.ism.
When the top level of a party uses brazen lies to incite its own people to storm the state-owned congress building, this is one of the most undemocratic processes imaginable. Especially when the reason for this unbelievable action is that they do not want to recognize a democratic election result.
Such processes are familiar from non-democratic states. In the USA, however, there has never been anything like this or anything comparable.
The highlight is that those who are responsible for this are not held accountable, while some of their henchmen end up in prison.
And if it comes to the point that Trump comes to power, he wants to pardon the criminals, which would be another clear kick against democracy.
For me, this was one of the most horrific events in the young history of the USA.
… is Zaluzhnyi now considered as bad or good guy…?!Zaluzhnyi is a military man. He's not a bad guy. As far as I know, he remains in his position.
… for both sides, it’s better to have this war or intervention solved asap…Nobody knows for sure. It’s just the media writing some rumors. The following options are possible:
I know that only on this forum people can read about what is happening in Ukraine. The world's media is controlled by democrats, who are now pursuing a policy of minimal coverage of events in Ukraine. This is being done to boost Biden's as.shole ratings.
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I know that only on this forum people can read about what is happening in Ukraine. The world's media is controlled by democrats, who are now pursuing a policy of minimal coverage of events in Ukraine. This is being done to boost Biden's as.shole ratings.
Completely wrong again. This is just one of many examples from the german "controlled" public media:
https://www.n-tv.de/politik/11-54-EU-Aussenbeauftragter-flieht-vor-Angriffen-in-ukrainischen-Luftschutzkeller--article23143824.html (https://www.n-tv.de/politik/11-54-EU-Aussenbeauftragter-flieht-vor-Angriffen-in-ukrainischen-Luftschutzkeller--article23143824.html)
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I know that only on this forum people can read about what is happening in Ukraine. The world's media is controlled by democrats, who are now pursuing a policy of minimal coverage of events in Ukraine. This is being done to boost Biden's as.shole ratings.
Completely wrong again. This is just one of many examples from the german "controlled" public media:
https://www.n-tv.de/politik/11-54-EU-Aussenbeauftragter-flieht-vor-Angriffen-in-ukrainischen-Luftschutzkeller--article23143824.html (https://www.n-tv.de/politik/11-54-EU-Aussenbeauftragter-flieht-vor-Angriffen-in-ukrainischen-Luftschutzkeller--article23143824.html)
What's wrong again?
Where is the information about 64 Russian missiles in your German media?
Re-read the information in my post "#2378 on: Today at 04:47".
The Frankfurter Rundschau also mentioned the 60 or so missiles.Learn to communicate on forums in cultural language.
Just admit for once that you've been spreading nonsense (again).
New York Times has a whole section dedicated to the war in Ukraine. Last article was updated 4h agoOK.
But I guess the media is busy with the upcomig interview the maga darling and trump admirer, Tucker Carlson is planning to have with putin, after he did the same with orban, of course, all 4 being Ukraine's best friends. ::)
The Frankfurter Rundschau also mentioned the 60 or so missiles.Learn to communicate on forums in cultural language.
Just admit for once that you've been spreading nonsense (again).
On the morning of February 7, russia attacked Ukraine with 64 missiles and drones.The Frankfurter Rundschau also mentioned the 60 or so missiles.Learn to communicate on forums in cultural language.
Just admit for once that you've been spreading nonsense (again).
The Latin equivalent "non sensus" was already used by the Romans.
Unfortunately, I can't think of a more sophisticated term in cultural language for your fake news and misinformation.
On the morning of February 7, russia attacked Ukraine with 64 missiles and drones.The Frankfurter Rundschau also mentioned the 60 or so missiles.Learn to communicate on forums in cultural language.
Just admit for once that you've been spreading nonsense (again).
The Latin equivalent "non sensus" was already used by the Romans.
Unfortunately, I can't think of a more sophisticated term in cultural language for your fake news and misinformation.
It's fake?
I was referring exclusively to your conspiracy theory about the international press and refuted it for Germany.Probably the news in the EU and the US will not say anything about this, or very little will be said.
I was referring exclusively to your conspiracy theory about the international press and refuted it for Germany.Probably the news in the EU and the US will not say anything about this, or very little will be said.
This is not a statement, it is an assumption that is based on facts. I periodically watch NBC News, and they don't talk about Ukraine in the main news. They talked last year. Biden doesn’t need negative news about Ukraine now; it lowers his rating.
Learn to read and understand what is written. There is no need to pass off assumptions as propaganda and conspiracy theories.
Okay, I didn't argue. We will know that the EU has showed today’s Russian attack. I still don’t understand what you are trying to prove here. You are making up some accusations against me.I was referring exclusively to your conspiracy theory about the international press and refuted it for Germany.Probably the news in the EU and the US will not say anything about this, or very little will be said.
This is not a statement, it is an assumption that is based on facts. I periodically watch NBC News, and they don't talk about Ukraine in the main news. They talked last year. Biden doesn’t need negative news about Ukraine now; it lowers his rating.
Learn to read and understand what is written. There is no need to pass off assumptions as propaganda and conspiracy theories.
This is precisely where the problem lies. You periodically watch the main news from another country and imagine that you have an overview of the entire news situation.
These are not facts, but your own distorted perception, which you are spreading here without restraint.
News channels live from viewers and the world doesn't just consist of Ukraine - except for you.
Since I speak several languages, I've made the effort for you:
https://www.la-croix.com/international/guerre-ukraine-russie-jour-714-point-conflit-ukrainien-poutine-aujourdhui-20240207 (https://www.la-croix.com/international/guerre-ukraine-russie-jour-714-point-conflit-ukrainien-poutine-aujourdhui-20240207)
https://www.elmundo.es/internacional/2024/02/07/65c31fe7d24298002ef50de2-directo.html (https://www.elmundo.es/internacional/2024/02/07/65c31fe7d24298002ef50de2-directo.html)
This is the reporting in Europe. You're not right.
Nobody is hiding anything here, it is very easy to get all the relevant information from the public media in every European country.
I have explained above why not every report appears every day in the main 30-minute evening news bulletins.
and the world doesn't just consist of UkraineHere you are mistaken, as many citizens of EU countries are mistaken. The future of the EU and many other countries of the world depends on events in Ukraine.
RalfLiebhold, do you want to waste your time arguing? ;D How old are you?
Poor support for Ukraine and weak sanctions against russia are not opinions, they are facts. And I give constant confirmation of these facts.
RalfLiebhold, do you want to waste your time arguing? ;D How old are you?
I do indeed feel very young.
I wasn't arguing at all, I was exposing you with facts.
I just don't like it when disturbed opinions are publicly sold as facts.
Poor support for Ukraine and weak sanctions against russia are not opinions, they are facts. And I give constant confirmation of these facts.
RalfLiebhold, do you want to waste your time arguing? ;D How old are you?
I do indeed feel very young.
I wasn't arguing at all, I was exposing you with facts.
I just don't like it when disturbed opinions are publicly sold as facts.
"I know that only on this forum people can read about what is happening in Ukraine. The world's media is controlled by democrats, who are now pursuing a policy of minimal coverage of events in Ukraine. "I'll answer the question. Yesterday I gave a link to the morning news in the USA, there is not a word about Ukraine. Every day on US TV channels they don’t talk about Ukraine or say very little to give the impression that nothing bad or terrible is happening in Ukraine.
2. Republicans don't want to continue funding bad and ineffective Democratic policies.
3. There is a chance (30%) that Trump will make a deal with the Russians and will not help Ukraine with weapons.
4. In 2024, there may be no weapons coming from the United States.
5. Ukraine can, at the cost of millions of lives, wage a war without weapons.
Improved accuracy:I don't agree. But one thing is clear for now: Republicans do not need Biden’s successes anywhere in 2024. Therefore, all that Biden managed to do in 3 years (and he did everything extremely poorly), is all for him.
I don't agree.
I don't agree.I don't agree.
For now.
What is significant is that you moved from 100% "trump will be better for Ukraine" to 70%. ;D
What is certain is that you will continue this journey all the way to 0%, as we approach the elections, and eventually realize that, even if unsatisfactory for you, what Biden is doing for Ukraine is the best you will ever get.
2. Even in the event of collusion, I am 80% confident that the Republican Party will be able to compensate for this.
And I stop making excuses for you, if you don’t understand the context of what was written well, that’s not my problem. Other readers, of whom there are thousands in this topic, do not have such questions. So the problem is your poor education.
I know that only on this forum people can read about what is happening in Ukraine. The world's media is controlled by democrats, who are now pursuing a policy of minimal coverage of events in Ukraine.
From today in Ukraine there is a new Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Oleksandr Syrskyi.
1. I have always accepted the possibility of Trump colluding with the Russians. But this probability is up to 30%.
2. Even in the event of collusion, I am 80% confident that the Republican Party will be able to compensate for this.
;D ;D ;D
I know that only on this forum people can read about what is happening in Ukraine. The world's media is controlled by democrats, who are now pursuing a policy of minimal coverage of events in Ukraine.
Yes, that is indeed a huge problem. Apart from you, we can't find out anything about Ukraine in Germany. That's terrible!
That's a major problem in democratically governed countries. Everything is controlled, compliant with the government and pro-Russian censored. That includes all the media.
That's the big difference to non-democratically governed, authoritarian systems. There, everyone can really follow what is happening in the world in the free media, unfiltered and without fake news.
But even for us poor sausages in a democratically governed country, there is one big ray of hope: You! Thank you for letting us participate in life out there with uncolored, neutral reporting. Trump would say: Great!
… simply, USA came to the point where they don’t need and can’t support Ukraine with their needs for a weapons… You can’t provide enough rockets for Patriot, when Shahed cost next to nothing and one missile for effective Patriot costs $4millions… if they send 50 of Shaheds at the time, who will shoot all of them with that expensive Patriot missile…?! And they are doing that almost daily - sending those tractor drones in waves and followed with cruise missiles… simply mathematics and economics don’t make sense…
Best way for Ukraine is to make some kind of deal with Russia and to save young people, lately even older male population, to be killed in meaningless war…
Doctor, views and politics are not your specialty or specialization. Stop diagnosing!
And I stop making excuses for you, if you don’t understand the context of what was written well, that’s not my problem. Other readers, of whom there are thousands in this topic, do not have such questions. So the problem is your poor education.
At this point, despite my poor education, I would like to quote Schopenhauer - also to your thousands of silent, invisible fans::
Revoke a wrong view requires more character than to defend it.
… simply, USA came to the point where they don’t need and can’t support Ukraine with their needs for a weapons… You can’t provide enough rockets for Patriot, when Shahed cost next to nothing and one missile for effective Patriot costs $4millions… if they send 50 of Shaheds at the time, who will shoot all of them with that expensive Patriot missile…?! And they are doing that almost daily - sending those tractor drones in waves and followed with cruise missiles… simply mathematics and economics don’t make sense…1. Ukraine does not fire expensive missiles at drones. They shoot at drones with machine guns, cheap Soviet hand-held missile systems, and Germany also supplies anti-aircraft machine guns that are good at shooting down drones.
Best way for Ukraine is to make some kind of deal with Russia and to save young people, lately even older male population, to be killed in meaningless war…
1. In the USA, only Republican supporters commit crimes? Does the Democratic electorate commit no crimes?
2. Even in the event of collusion, I am 80% confident that the Republican Party will be able to compensate for this.
Yes, indeed. 🙄
Here is what another maga republican darling just posted:
Thank you for posting this. Here in Germany - unfortunately democratically governed - we don't get any information about such things - apart from a few exceptions...You didn't read me well yesterday. I wrote that the problem is that in the USA they talk very little about Ukraine or say nothing at all. Regarding the EU, I was just asking a question. And the fate of both Ukraine and half of the EU countries and not only the EU depends on the US policy.
… simply, USA came to the point where they don’t need and can’t support Ukraine with their needs for a weapons… You can’t provide enough rockets for Patriot, when Shahed cost next to nothing and one missile for effective Patriot costs $4millions… if they send 50 of Shaheds at the time, who will shoot all of them with that expensive Patriot missile…?! And they are doing that almost daily - sending those tractor drones in waves and followed with cruise missiles… simply mathematics and economics don’t make sense…
Doctor, views and politics are not your specialty or specialization. Stop diagnosing!
At least here in the forum, your approval rating is close to zero.Where can I see your rating? I see that 2 of your friends constantly upvote all your posts. Is this what you call a rating?
… haven’t bakery being shoot in Lysychansk, on teritory occupied by Russians last week…?! In total, 28 dead civilians…1. Everything the Russians say is lies, disinformation and propaganda.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/03/russian-says-11-killed-in-ukrainian-shelling-of-bakery-in-lysychansk (https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/03/russian-says-11-killed-in-ukrainian-shelling-of-bakery-in-lysychansk)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68203541.amp (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68203541.amp)1. If you repeat a lie 1000 times, does it become true?
https://www.euronews.com/2024/02/04/at-least-28-dead-after-bakery-shelled-in-russian-occupied-ukraine (https://www.euronews.com/2024/02/04/at-least-28-dead-after-bakery-shelled-in-russian-occupied-ukraine)
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-appointed-official-says-ukraine-shells-bakery-occupied-eastern-ukraine-2024-02-03/ (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-appointed-official-says-ukraine-shells-bakery-occupied-eastern-ukraine-2024-02-03/)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-03/russia-ukraine-war-officials-claim-ukraine-bombed-bakery-in-occupied-region (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-03/russia-ukraine-war-officials-claim-ukraine-bombed-bakery-in-occupied-region)
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-lysychansk-bakery-shelling-war-61ce6fc809bd73ac0fa994e8b7e84286#:~:text=Email-,Ukrainian%20shelling%20killed%20at%20least%2028%20people%20at%20a%20bakery,%2C%20Moscow%2Dinstalled%20officials%20said. (https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-lysychansk-bakery-shelling-war-61ce6fc809bd73ac0fa994e8b7e84286#:~:text=Email-,Ukrainian%20shelling%20killed%20at%20least%2028%20people%20at%20a%20bakery,%2C%20Moscow%2Dinstalled%20officials%20said.)
I’m just saying that people are dying on both sides, in most cases civilians… ukraine is totally devasted, depopulated and ruined… as long as this operation or war lasts, your country heads to non-returning point… simply, there are no winners - just killed people and ruined cities…Yes, there is a war and Ukrainians are dying. But if you read the story about the 3 Holodomors that the Russians committed in the 20th century in Ukraine, you will understand that if Ukraine is occupied, there will be even more victims.
CNN
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Former President Donald Trump on Saturday said he would encourage Russia to do “whatever . they want” to any NATO member country that doesn’t meet spending guidelines on defense in a stunning admission he would not abide by the collective-defense clause at the heart of the alliance if reelected.
“NATO was busted until I came along,” Trump said at a rally in Conway, South Carolina. “I said, ‘Everybody’s gonna pay.’ They said, ‘Well, if we don’t pay, are you still going to protect us?’ I said, ‘Absolutely not.’ They couldn’t believe the answer.”
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/10/politics/trump-russia-nato/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/10/politics/trump-russia-nato/index.html)
;D :o ::) 8) :-\
… it seems that Chasiv Yar have fallen…No.
Trump says everything correctly. How else to talk to the euro parasites?CNN
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Former President Donald Trump on Saturday said he would encourage Russia to do “whatever . they want” to any NATO member country that doesn’t meet spending guidelines on defense in a stunning admission he would not abide by the collective-defense clause at the heart of the alliance if reelected.
“NATO was busted until I came along,” Trump said at a rally in Conway, South Carolina. “I said, ‘Everybody’s gonna pay.’ They said, ‘Well, if we don’t pay, are you still going to protect us?’ I said, ‘Absolutely not.’ They couldn’t believe the answer.”
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/10/politics/trump-russia-nato/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/10/politics/trump-russia-nato/index.html)
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Yeah, the moron said he will not be helping our NATO allies and even letting them be invaded by russia, because of some accounting issues. He'd even "encourage" russia "to do whatever the h.e.l.l. they want."
A clear message to his buddy putin.
And you keep believing that he will help Ukraine, who never contributed anything to NATO funds, to repel putin's army?
What a sad delusion!
I would like to repeat that again. If this happens - and I assume that it will - the European NATO states will be very concerned about their own armaments, which would not be good for Ukraine.KGB agent Putin can reveal anything on TV cameras. Any actions of the KGB are disinformation, lies and propaganda. The KGB is the same as the Gestapo.
What's more, NATO would then possibly have a different self-definition and orientation. We will see.
But the fact remains: Putin will open a bottle of Crimean champagne if Trump wins and celebrate properly!
Trump says everything correctly. How else to talk to the euro parasites?CNN
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Former President Donald Trump on Saturday said he would encourage Russia to do “whatever . they want” to any NATO member country that doesn’t meet spending guidelines on defense in a stunning admission he would not abide by the collective-defense clause at the heart of the alliance if reelected.
“NATO was busted until I came along,” Trump said at a rally in Conway, South Carolina. “I said, ‘Everybody’s gonna pay.’ They said, ‘Well, if we don’t pay, are you still going to protect us?’ I said, ‘Absolutely not.’ They couldn’t believe the answer.”
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/10/politics/trump-russia-nato/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/10/politics/trump-russia-nato/index.html)
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Yeah, the moron said he will not be helping our NATO allies and even letting them be invaded by russia, because of some accounting issues. He'd even "encourage" russia "to do whatever the h.e.l.l. they want."
A clear message to his buddy putin.
And you keep believing that he will help Ukraine, who never contributed anything to NATO funds, to repel putin's army?
What a sad delusion!
He didn’t say anything about Ukraine. Therefore, these are just your fantasies. More precisely, he said that he did not want to give money for nothing. No problem. The main thing is that he provides the necessary weapons.
Trump is an evil cop, I already wrote.
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… Avdiivka cauldron is almost formed and after that important routes to Slovyansk and Kramatorsk are very exposed…eith Chasiv Yar in Russian hands, coming of spring leads to new destructions…Do you read Russian news?
trucic, Zero Talent. Everything will be OK. Trump says everything correctly. I would say exactly the same.
;D ;D ;D
… what about tsar train protection line…?! Two thousand wagons..?!The Russians have already made defense lines from some kind of “dragon teeth”. Those teeth didn't help them.
I would like to repeat that again. If this happens - and I assume that it will - the European NATO states will be very concerned about their own armaments, which would not be good for Ukraine.
What's more, NATO would then possibly have a different self-definition and orientation. We will see.
But the fact remains: Putin will open a bottle of Crimean champagne if Trump wins and celebrate properly!
And yes, Trump will put a lot of pressure on the euro parasites. Get ready for big expenses both for the NATO fund and for the supply of weapons to the front in Ukraine.
You know what? Your parastite comments are really getting on my nerves!
We're spending billions on Ukraine! And you insult us without ceasing! We hardly have any ammunition left because it's all going to Ukraine. We're spending a lot of money on Ukrainian refugees. Our population is starting to rebel because the money is missing everywhere.
You know what? Your parastite comments are really getting on my nerves!
We're spending billions on Ukraine! And you insult us without ceasing! We hardly have any ammunition left because it's all going to Ukraine. We're spending a lot of money on Ukrainian refugees. Our population is starting to rebel because the money is missing everywhere.
Wilm, these discussions with this guy no longer make sense.
We've all tried that.
You'd be better off explaining to a sandwich that it should go jogging every day for health reasons.
He simply doesn't care. The only thing he is interested is is America first.
We're spending billions on Ukraine! And you insult us without ceasing! We hardly have any ammunition left because it's all going to Ukraine. We're spending a lot of money on Ukrainian refugees. Our population is starting to rebel because the money is missing everywhere.When the Russians approach the EU borders or enter Poland, you will be spending trillions of euros.
I don't agree. Biden needs to be put in prison, and not only in prison, but also in the electric chair. The US Democratic Party needs to be banned.He simply doesn't care. The only thing he is interested is is America first.
The only thing that nasty piece of garbage cares about is himself first. He would destroy Ukraine, the U.S. or even his own family if he thought it would help his own self. I don't know what exactly Putin has over him but Orange Jesus is acting as a Russian asset to further Putin's goals in the world. The sooner that nasty scumbag is in jail the better and safer the world will be for all of us. Hopefully he and Putin will both get what they deserve.
Doctor, take some pills, you know which ones. ;D ;D ;D
You know what? Your parastite comments are really getting on my nerves!
We're spending billions on Ukraine! And you insult us without ceasing! We hardly have any ammunition left because it's all going to Ukraine. We're spending a lot of money on Ukrainian refugees. Our population is starting to rebel because the money is missing everywhere.
Wilm, these discussions with this guy no longer make sense.
We've all tried that.
You'd be better off explaining to a sandwich that it should go jogging every day for health reasons.
Refugees also work and pay taxes. I saw the statistics, the amount of these taxes is no less than the aid that the EU pays to refugees.
We're spending billions on Ukraine! And you insult us without ceasing! We hardly have any ammunition left because it's all going to Ukraine. We're spending a lot of money on Ukrainian refugees. Our population is starting to rebel because the money is missing everywhere.
Refugees also work and pay taxes. I saw the statistics, the amount of these taxes is no less than the aid that the EU pays to refugees.
And I didn’t personally call you a parasite. ;D I'm talking about your politicians and big business.
I am against the fact that Ukrainians left as refugees for other countries. It is not necessary. There are a lot of safe places and territories in Ukraine.
Some people go not because they are afraid of war, but because the EU offers them cash benefits and housing. People want to improve their financial situation, take their children to the EU, and give them a better education there. Some want to marry a foreigner and obtain citizenship.
In the Ukrainian press I read about stories where in EU countries their children are taken from mothers and given to other families. In this way, EU countries are trying to solve their demographic problems and problems with fertility.
Therefore, if you are Germans, you think that I will thank you for accepting refugees, you are mistaken. I won't thank you for that.
Refugees also work and pay taxes. I saw the statistics, the amount of these taxes is no less than the aid that the EU pays to refugees.
Refugees also work and pay taxes. I saw the statistics, the amount of these taxes is no less than the aid that the EU pays to refugees.
You have certainly seen white rabbits and Elvis running around in the statistics.
What a load of lying nonsense.
Let's have a few facts.
Ukraine's asylum seekers are not funded by the EU, but by the individual states.
There are currently 1.1 million Ukrainian asylum seekers living in Germany.
There are no reliable statistics on the costs in Germany. This is due to the fact that funding is provided by the federal states and the german government from various sources. In addition, Ukrainians are not treated as asylum seekers, but as long-term unemployed Germans.
The cost of healthcare cannot be estimated as well because Ukrainians, like all Germans, are members of the statutory healthcare system. Billing for treatment is carried out by the associations of statutory health insurance physicians (Kassenärztliche Vereinigung) and does not differentiate between Ukrainians and Germans.
Brief summary for the learning disabled: There are currently no reliable figures for the costs in Germany.
But even if there were, here are more facts.
Of the 1.1 million Ukrainians, a quarter are under the age of 18. Of the rest, only around 30% work, mostly in mini-jobs from which no social security contributions or taxes are paid at all.
You have to be a pretty mathematical zero to assume that under these conditions there is a plus for Germany.
I'm a bit sorry that I'm slowly losing my net etiquette, but your constant insults, gutter language and spreading of lies are increasingly getting on my nerves.
I don't agree. Biden needs to be put in prison, and not only in prison, but also in the electric chair. The US Democratic Party needs to be banned.He simply doesn't care. The only thing he is interested is is America first.
The only thing that nasty piece of garbage cares about is himself first. He would destroy Ukraine, the U.S. or even his own family if he thought it would help his own self. I don't know what exactly Putin has over him but Orange Jesus is acting as a Russian asset to further Putin's goals in the world. The sooner that nasty scumbag is in jail the better and safer the world will be for all of us. Hopefully he and Putin will both get what they deserve.
I don't agree. Biden needs to be put in prison, and not only in prison, but also in the electric chair. The US Democratic Party needs to be banned.He simply doesn't care. The only thing he is interested is is America first.
The only thing that nasty piece of garbage cares about is himself first. He would destroy Ukraine, the U.S. or even his own family if he thought it would help his own self. I don't know what exactly Putin has over him but Orange Jesus is acting as a Russian asset to further Putin's goals in the world. The sooner that nasty scumbag is in jail the better and safer the world will be for all of us. Hopefully he and Putin will both get what they deserve.
In the Ukrainian press I read about stories where in EU countries their children are taken from mothers and given to other families.
No. I was talking about Poland. The source of statistics is Ukrainian media. I am sure that the situation is similar in other EU countries. Apart from Germany, the situation there is different. I will answer in my other posts.Refugees also work and pay taxes. I saw the statistics, the amount of these taxes is no less than the aid that the EU pays to refugees.
Is Russia Today the source of these statistics?
The EU consists of more than just one country called Germany. Don't judge EU countries based on Germany alone.We're spending billions on Ukraine! And you insult us without ceasing! We hardly have any ammunition left because it's all going to Ukraine. We're spending a lot of money on Ukrainian refugees. Our population is starting to rebel because the money is missing everywhere.
Refugees also work and pay taxes. I saw the statistics, the amount of these taxes is no less than the aid that the EU pays to refugees.
And I didn’t personally call you a parasite. ;D I'm talking about your politicians and big business.
Nonsense!
I have no idea where you get this information from, but it's total nonsense.
Return Ukrainians to Ukraine! How are you better than the Russians? You solve your demographic problems at the expense of Ukrainians.I am against the fact that Ukrainians left as refugees for other countries. It is not necessary. There are a lot of safe places and territories in Ukraine.
Some people go not because they are afraid of war, but because the EU offers them cash benefits and housing. People want to improve their financial situation, take their children to the EU, and give them a better education there. Some want to marry a foreigner and obtain citizenship.
In the Ukrainian press I read about stories where in EU countries their children are taken from mothers and given to other families. In this way, EU countries are trying to solve their demographic problems and problems with fertility.
Therefore, if you are Germans, you think that I will thank you for accepting refugees, you are mistaken. I won't thank you for that.
When I read statements like that, I wonder what kind of conspiracy bubble you're in right now!
I'm a bit sorry that I'm slowly losing my net etiquette,Therefore, I will not comment on what you write. There is also an ignore button.
In general, I would like to say that this permanent statement that Russia as a country and the Russians as a people must be destroyed is an absolute absurdity.1. I never wrote that all Russians should be eliminated.
Then Germany should also have been completely wiped out under H*.
What the Russians are doing today and what the Germans did back then is a catastrophe and cannot be excused by anything.
Nevertheless, I am very grateful that I am allowed to live today and that my ancestors were not completely wiped out.
This is all propaganda from the Democrats.I don't agree. Biden needs to be put in prison, and not only in prison, but also in the electric chair. The US Democratic Party needs to be banned.He simply doesn't care. The only thing he is interested is is America first.
The only thing that nasty piece of garbage cares about is himself first. He would destroy Ukraine, the U.S. or even his own family if he thought it would help his own self. I don't know what exactly Putin has over him but Orange Jesus is acting as a Russian asset to further Putin's goals in the world. The sooner that nasty scumbag is in jail the better and safer the world will be for all of us. Hopefully he and Putin will both get what they deserve.
Right, right, right... the Dems who just voted today with a massive 46 -2 majority in favor of Ukraine should be banned, while the republicans, with their 26-22 anti-Ukraine majority should be embraced!
stocker is living in a parallel universe where Ukraine's best interests, putin's dreams, and trump's stupidity are in sync!
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This is also true, just like the truth about Russians. Not many Ukrainians can protect their rights in the EU.In the Ukrainian press I read about stories where in EU countries their children are taken from mothers and given to other families.
I don't know about the Ukrainian press but that sounds like Russian propaganda to me. The Russians have stolen Ukrainian children and given them away to families in Russia - this is well documented. I have never heard of anything like that in the EU and doubt that is true.
You are influenced by propaganda and lies from the US Democratic Party. If you read this thread over the past two months, you will see that I have written on all of these issues.I don't agree. Biden needs to be put in prison, and not only in prison, but also in the electric chair. The US Democratic Party needs to be banned.He simply doesn't care. The only thing he is interested is is America first.
The only thing that nasty piece of garbage cares about is himself first. He would destroy Ukraine, the U.S. or even his own family if he thought it would help his own self. I don't know what exactly Putin has over him but Orange Jesus is acting as a Russian asset to further Putin's goals in the world. The sooner that nasty scumbag is in jail the better and safer the world will be for all of us. Hopefully he and Putin will both get what they deserve.
What on Earth could you possibly put Biden in prison for? The Republicans have been trying to impeach him for months, but despite wasting huge amounts of taxpayer money haven't come up with a single shred of evidence for any wrongdoing. The electric chair? Stop being ridiculous. If Biden had not been in the White House these past few years Putin would have been in Kyiv long ago. If Orange Jesus gets back in the White House Ukraine will become a vassal state of Russia very quickly. That is why Putin supports Trump so strongly and why he opposes the Democrats - he knows they are the ones standing in the way of his destroying Ukraine.
Germany will have big problems when Trump becomes president.
Germany spends little money. >:( >:( >:(
By the end of 2024, it will be clear how much Germany will pay. For now these are just plans.Germany spends little money. >:( >:( >:(
Germany currently has a share of expenditure of 2.1% of the GDP.
Therefore, even based on his foolish announcement, trump-the-moron, must defend them and fight his buddy putin.Is not a fact. If Germany will not pay enough money for defense, why should the United States send troops into German territory and defend not only, for example, Poland, but also Germany at the same time? Trump will shift responsibility for the occupation of Poland to Germany.
Therefore, even based on his foolish announcement, trump-the-moron, must defend them and fight his buddy putin.Is not a fact. If Germany will not pay enough money for defense, why should the United States send troops into German territory and defend not only, for example, Poland, but also Germany at the same time? Trump will shift responsibility for the occupation of Poland to Germany.
But this is all nonsense, of course, Trump’s goal is to force Russian friends such as Germany, Hungary, and Austria to pay enough money.
Thus, the German parasites parasitized not only on the USA, but also on other EU countries, which are forced to pay 2% of their GDP for defense.
You, on the other hand, are once again fantasizing your own ideas contrary to the facts.The facts are clear. Germany in 2023 was parasitizing at the expense of other EU countries.
Of the countries you listed, only Hungary is relatively friendly towards Russia. Germany was in the past interested in keeping relatively good relations to Russia, partly because our politicians believed that the best insurance against war is to have good trade relations, partly because we relied (probably too much) on Russian gas for our energy supply. But of course, the Russian invasion of the Ukraine changed all that.It has already been pointed out in this topic that Germany continues to pay money to the Russians for gas. Germany also trades with Russians through third countries and supplies many goods, incl. military purposes.
And Austria is not part of the NATO and therefore not under any obligation to pay anything.
I do agree though, that Germany should spend at least the agreed upon 2% of the GDP on defence and it looks like this year we will achieve this goal, as has already been stated in this thread. This has nothing to do with Trump, but rather with Putin.
You, on the other hand, are once again fantasizing your own ideas contrary to the facts.The facts are clear. Germany in 2023 was parasitizing at the expense of other EU countries.
Therefore, even based on his foolish announcement, trump-the-moron, must defend them and fight his buddy putin.Is not a fact. If Germany will not pay enough money for defense, why should the United States send troops into German territory and defend not only, for example, Poland, but also Germany at the same time? Trump will shift responsibility for the occupation of Poland to Germany.
But this is all nonsense, of course, Trump’s goal is to force Russian friends such as Germany, Hungary, and Austria to pay enough money.
Thus, the German parasites parasitized not only on the USA, but also on other EU countries, which are forced to pay 2% of their GDP for defense.
You, on the other hand, are once again fantasizing your own ideas contrary to the facts.The facts are clear. Germany in 2023 was parasitizing at the expense of other EU countries.
You are obviously not very familiar with the concept of parasitism.
I am very familiar with economics and know what it is. There is no need to hide behind absolute numbers when other countries pay a higher percentage of their GDP than you.Your choice of words alone shows your simple mind and lack of overview.You, on the other hand, are once again fantasizing your own ideas contrary to the facts.The facts are clear. Germany in 2023 was parasitizing at the expense of other EU countries.
Once again for those with learning difficulties: Germany was and is the third largest donor to NATO.
You are obviously not very familiar with the concept of parasitism.
You write some obvious things. ;DYou missed the point, Homer, same as the orange moron.Therefore, even based on his foolish announcement, trump-the-moron, must defend them and fight his buddy putin.Is not a fact. If Germany will not pay enough money for defense, why should the United States send troops into German territory and defend not only, for example, Poland, but also Germany at the same time? Trump will shift responsibility for the occupation of Poland to Germany.
But this is all nonsense, of course, Trump’s goal is to force Russian friends such as Germany, Hungary, and Austria to pay enough money.
Thus, the German parasites parasitized not only on the USA, but also on other EU countries, which are forced to pay 2% of their GDP for defense.
russia can never invade Germany, without invading Poland first.
US must defend Poland and fight russia, even if Germany doesn't spend a dime on military.
Basic geography seems too hard for you two.
These many other Ukrainians defend the EU and Germany, while Germany buys Russian gas and trades with the Russians through third countries. Germany also pays little to the NATO fund and Germany really likes Ukrainian refugees who solve the Germans’ demographic problems.You, on the other hand, are once again fantasizing your own ideas contrary to the facts.The facts are clear. Germany in 2023 was parasitizing at the expense of other EU countries.
You are obviously not very familiar with the concept of parasitism.
He is! While lots of other Ukrainians are figthting for their country he is sitting at home - safe and warm - and insulting other people.
even if Germany doesn't spend a dime on military.+100
You write some obvious things. ;DYou missed the point, Homer, same as the orange moron.Therefore, even based on his foolish announcement, trump-the-moron, must defend them and fight his buddy putin.Is not a fact. If Germany will not pay enough money for defense, why should the United States send troops into German territory and defend not only, for example, Poland, but also Germany at the same time? Trump will shift responsibility for the occupation of Poland to Germany.
But this is all nonsense, of course, Trump’s goal is to force Russian friends such as Germany, Hungary, and Austria to pay enough money.
Thus, the German parasites parasitized not only on the USA, but also on other EU countries, which are forced to pay 2% of their GDP for defense.
russia can never invade Germany, without invading Poland first.
US must defend Poland and fight russia, even if Germany doesn't spend a dime on military.
Basic geography seems too hard for you two.
The security of the EU's eastern flank is largely Germany's responsibility. If Germany does not pay, then the NATO fund will not be large enough, and the US will have to spend a lot of its money to protect Germany as well. Germany won't be able to play games with Trump.
The only obvious thing is that trump is a moron who wants to steal the horses from a German bicycle.Your logic on this topic has always been based on the statements of Trump, putin, Biden. You have always written that Putin will support Trump. Now there are holes in your logic. Today putin began to support Biden. For me this is logical, Biden did a lot to support the Russian Na.zis.
His threat to leave russia to do "whatever the h.e.l.l. they want" with Germany is an empty threat that only means something to you and his brainwashed cult followers who have a distant relationship with basic logic.
Moreover, the only reason he suddenly switched 180 degrees and said the nonsense about Biden selling Ukraine to putin is because putin said Biden is better, bruising his yuuuge orange ego. Because his yuuuuge orange ego is all that matters to him
The only obvious thing is that trump is a moron who wants to steal the horses from a German bicycle.Your logic on this topic has always been based on the statements of Trump, putin, Biden. You have always written that Putin will support Trump. Now there are holes in your logic. Today putin began to support Biden. For me this is logical, Biden did a lot to support the Russian Na.zis.
His threat to leave russia to do "whatever the h.e.l.l. they want" with Germany is an empty threat that only means something to you and his brainwashed cult followers who have a distant relationship with basic logic.
Moreover, the only reason he suddenly switched 180 degrees and said the nonsense about Biden selling Ukraine to putin is because putin said Biden is better, bruising his yuuuge orange ego. Because his yuuuuge orange ego is all that matters to him
As for Trump’s statements, as our German colleagues write, this year Germany “unexpectedly” decided to increase its defense spending. Just after Trump directly told Germany what awaits her.
Trump, even without being president, is much more effective than Biden.
Zero Talent, you democrat fans have big problems now. Your main argument against Trump was based on the assumption that putin and the Russians support him. Now you no longer have this argument. ;D ;D ;D
putin has publicly stated that he supports Biden. :'( :'( :'(
I can only commiserate you and recommend that you turn on logic and analytics, and not be based on what the Russians say or do. ;)
You all wrote in this thread that putin only supports Trump!
The only obvious thing is that trump is a moron who wants to steal the horses from a German bicycle.Your logic on this topic has always been based on the statements of Trump, putin, Biden. You have always written that Putin will support Trump. Now there are holes in your logic. Today putin began to support Biden. For me this is logical, Biden did a lot to support the Russian Na.zis.
His threat to leave russia to do "whatever the h.e.l.l. they want" with Germany is an empty threat that only means something to you and his brainwashed cult followers who have a distant relationship with basic logic.
Moreover, the only reason he suddenly switched 180 degrees and said the nonsense about Biden selling Ukraine to putin is because putin said Biden is better, bruising his yuuuge orange ego. Because his yuuuuge orange ego is all that matters to him
As for Trump’s statements, as our German colleagues write, this year Germany “unexpectedly” decided to increase its defense spending. Just after Trump directly told Germany what awaits her.
Trump, even without being president, is much more effective than Biden.
Zero Talent, you democrat fans have big problems now. Your main argument against Trump was based on the assumption that putin and the Russians support him. Now you no longer have this argument. ;D ;D ;D
putin has publicly stated that he supports Biden. :'( :'( :'(
I can only commiserate you and recommend that you turn on logic and analytics, and not be based on what the Russians say or do. ;)
As for Trump’s statements, as our German colleagues write, this year Germany “unexpectedly” decided to increase its defense spending.
Just after Trump directly told Germany what awaits her.
;D ;D ;DAs for Trump’s statements, as our German colleagues write, this year Germany “unexpectedly” decided to increase its defense spending.
There is nothing unexpected about this. It is the direct result of additional funds of 100 Billion Euros provided to spend on the Bundeswehr, the German armed forces, over several years to bring it up to scratch. It is a so called "Sondervermögen", which allows to circumvent the strict German anti-debt laws.
It was announced on February 27 2022, shortly after the Russian invasion into the Ukraine, in a famous speech by Chancelor Olaf Scholz (the Zeitenwende Speech) and formally decided on in June 2022.
It just took some time for the military bureaucracy to actually start spending the money.Just after Trump directly told Germany what awaits her.
There is no way this could possibly have had any effect whatsoever on military spending so quickly.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitenwende-Rede
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderverm%C3%B6gen_(Bundeswehr)
But only exactly 2 years later, Germany finally decided to increase spending, because it knows Trump can win.
If you are right (which is naturally not the case) and your bureaucracy has been reacting to Scholz’s words for 2 years.
I can give you 100%, Russian orcs will occupy Germany in a few days.
;D ;D ;DAs for Trump’s statements, as our German colleagues write, this year Germany “unexpectedly” decided to increase its defense spending.
There is nothing unexpected about this. It is the direct result of additional funds of 100 Billion Euros provided to spend on the Bundeswehr, the German armed forces, over several years to bring it up to scratch. It is a so called "Sondervermögen", which allows to circumvent the strict German anti-debt laws.
It was announced on February 27 2022, shortly after the Russian invasion into the Ukraine, in a famous speech by Chancelor Olaf Scholz (the Zeitenwende Speech) and formally decided on in June 2022.
It just took some time for the military bureaucracy to actually start spending the money.Just after Trump directly told Germany what awaits her.
There is no way this could possibly have had any effect whatsoever on military spending so quickly.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitenwende-Rede
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderverm%C3%B6gen_(Bundeswehr)
Nice attempt at saving face on your part. I think you will come up with many fantastic stories. But it’s your right, compose.
As for your Scholz, his words are worthless. He sang beautiful songs 2 years ago, but did nothing. All democrat supporters sing false songs. But only exactly 2 years later, Germany finally decided to increase spending, because it knows Trump can win.
If you are right (which is naturally not the case) and your bureaucracy has been reacting to Scholz’s words for 2 years. I can give you 100%, Russian orcs will occupy Germany in a few days.
… Avdiivka is definitely falling and after that Slavyansk and Kramatorsk can expect very hot spring…Stop panicking!
Everything you write here about German politics is, as always, fictitious and without facts.:'( :'( :'(
The development was exactly as Big Toe described it.
You are simply wrong, as always when it comes to complex issues.
(https://www.ostro.org/upload/media/2024/02/16/vtraty-16.jpg)Do you really beleive in this numbers…?! Can you please at least show proofs of 100000 corpses…?! People im shopping malls can’t be count as soldieres…
The total combat losses of the Russians exceeded 400,000, over 1,200 occupiers were eliminated in a day - General Staff
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Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the nation! Death of Russian Federation!
Do you really beleive in this numbers…?! Can you please at least show proofs of 100000 corpses…?! People im shopping malls can’t be count as soldieres…Only Russian trolls write such questions. You can continue to believe Russian propaganda.
So half a million Russians have been killed or out of their army potential…?! Do you understand how many people is that…?! If that’s true, you can at least multiply that number with 3 for Ukrainian casulties….is it worth…?!1. The losses of the attacking army are 5 times greater than the losses of the defending army. Ukraine is mostly on the defensive.
… new commander of UA Oleksandr Syrskyi, ordered withdrawal from Avdiivka…Yes, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have run out of weapons. There is nothing to kill Russians with, which means there is no point in holding that line of defense.
… new commander of UA Oleksandr Syrskyi, ordered withdrawal from Avdiivka…
… this is the way to save population and infrastructure… you are saying that Russians are using only drunkees and drug addicts… can you imagine what will happen if they activate real army in full potential…?! In any way, road to Kramatorsk and Slavyansk are opened… fierce battles for those cities will begin soon… and new destructions and killing of people, sadly…Russians do not have normal people or very few of them. Ukraine killed the professional Russian army back in 2022. Now the Russians are mobilizing a lot of drug addicts, prisoners, alcoholics and throwing them into positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. These are called meat assaults. The Russians used the same tactics in World War II, when the Germans simply ran out of ammunition. Imagine a huge crowd of orcs (even without weapons) who, like zombies, are walking towards you over their own corpses. This is russia, this is the Russians. The Russians also have shells for artillery, which are supplied to them by North Korea, Iran, and China.
… new commander of UA Oleksandr Syrskyi, ordered withdrawal from Avdiivka…
The false “democratic” US TV channels will not show this or talk about it. If we don’t talk about Ukraine, then Ukraine doesn’t exist.
This forum is the only place where US citizens can find out the truth about Biden's criminal policies.
… new commander of UA Oleksandr Syrskyi, ordered withdrawal from Avdiivka…
The false “democratic” US TV channels will not show this or talk about it. If we don’t talk about Ukraine, then Ukraine doesn’t exist.
This forum is the only place where US citizens can find out the truth about Biden's criminal policies.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/17/world/europe/ukraine-avdiivka-withdraw-despair.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/17/world/europe/ukraine-avdiivka-withdraw-despair.html)
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna139145 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna139145)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/16/avdiivka-ukraine-russia-retreat-withdraw/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/16/avdiivka-ukraine-russia-retreat-withdraw/)
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/16/europe/ukraine-withdraws-avdiivka-intl/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/16/europe/ukraine-withdraws-avdiivka-intl/index.html)
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/feb/17/russia-ukraine-war-live-ukraines-forces-withdraw-from-avdiivka (https://amp.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/feb/17/russia-ukraine-war-live-ukraines-forces-withdraw-from-avdiivka)
https://www.euronews.com/2024/02/17/ukraine-withdrawing-from-avdiivka-where-outnumbered-defenders-held-out-for-4-months (https://www.euronews.com/2024/02/17/ukraine-withdrawing-from-avdiivka-where-outnumbered-defenders-held-out-for-4-months)
… everyone are talking about that, do not know what king of internet you use not seeing this…?!
… ok, now I understand… that is well kept secret on US TV channels…+100
… he obviously plays a game and negatively impacts Biden popularity… he directly wants to involve with his influence(negative in this case) in upcoming elections… not in Bidens favor… and thats bad for Ukraine, for sure…If they talked about Ukraine on US TV channels, and if the US reacted strongly to the murder of Navalny and introduced serious sanctions, I could still believe a little in what you write. But I only see Biden’s support for putin.
President Joe Biden has said the US House's decision to call a two-week recess without passing fresh aid for Ukraine is "bizarre" and "outrageous".Yes, this bas.tard Biden has not given Ukraine normal weapons and in normal quantities for two years, and now he is blaming the US House. Without aviation, medium- and long-range missiles and tanks, Ukraine will lose the war and will be occupied. Also, putin’s friend Biden can even now send weapons to Ukraine from US military warehouses. But of course, putin’s agent Biden is better off doing nothing and blaming the Republicans for everything. The same applies to cowardly EU countries that are copying Biden’s actions.
"...This makes it all the more urgent to provide Ukraine with equipment and funding. The fact that the Ukrainian army is now running out of ammunition is "absurd" and "unethical". In a telephone call, Biden once again assured Zelensky of the support of the USA, the White House announced. He emphasized that Congress urgently needed to approve a new aid package for Ukraine.This is all propaganda from the Democrats. I have tore all of these arguments in my posts over the past few weeks.
The lack of US support was partly responsible for the retreat: the Ukrainian soldiers had had to "ration their ammunition due to the inaction of Congress". An aid package worth around 60 billion US dollars (just under 56 billion euros) is stuck in the US Congress. Although the Senate has given its consent, approval by the House of Representatives is still pending, as the Republicans have a narrow majority there. Members from the right fringe of the party are opposing further US aid for Ukraine."...
"...The Republicans' "no" to the latest draft of the legislative package had already become apparent."...
"...Former Republican US President Donald Trump, who is also likely to run against incumbent Joe Biden in next November's election, had also spoken out clearly against it in advance."
"...This makes it all the more urgent to provide Ukraine with equipment and funding. The fact that the Ukrainian army is now running out of ammunition is "absurd" and "unethical".Yes it is. But in fact Europe and US are running out of ammunition.
+100"...This makes it all the more urgent to provide Ukraine with equipment and funding. The fact that the Ukrainian army is now running out of ammunition is "absurd" and "unethical".Yes it is. But in fact Europe and US are running out of ammunition.
I am quite sure that Europe will get in a war with Russia in less than 10 years.
So we should start to produce more weapon and ammunition now. It won't prevent the upcoming war with Russia but will give us some chance.
All US media works for Biden and against Trump. These include TV channels and newspapers.
Zero Talent, how much money are you being paid by the democrats to support Biden and spread propaganda?
At a minimum, Biden should be sent to a home for the elderly, and not dragged into the presidency of the United States. ;D ;D ;D
Being anti-I only agree with this formulation. I corrected you, now everything is written correctly.TrumpBiden means being first of all anti-stupidity, then anti-isolationism, anti-fascism, anti-authoritarianism—in other words, pro-democracy.
More than 2 days after, your "saviour" has not mentioned a word about the murder of Navalny by his buddy putin.The President of the United States should not engage in chatter, empty promises and singing beautiful songs. The President of the United States must act. When Trump becomes president, he will act (and may not even issue any ultimatums). In the meantime, we only hear empty chatter from Biden.
Nice sneakers! ;D
Perhaps he is thinking about how he will hit Biden's ass with these sneakers, driving Biden out of the White House. ;D ;D ;D
Let the US Democrats replace Biden with Blinken, and then I can write at least something good about them. What can you think about the people who are nominating the frail old man Biden for the presidency? This is idiocy and support for putin.
The USA and the whole world need a strong president!
The conclusion is very simple. Trump is younger than Biden and in better physical shape. That's why Trump should be president.Let the US Democrats replace Biden with Blinken, and then I can write at least something good about them. What can you think about the people who are nominating the frail old man Biden for the presidency? This is idiocy and support for putin.
The USA and the whole world need a strong president!
Yes, nominating two frail, old men with incipient senility is a colossal mistake!
https://youtu.be/NpBPm0b9deQ
That's why I told you repeatedly that the best candidate is Nikki Haley. However, she stands no chance against the bling-bling cult. Blinken could definitely be a good choice.
Regardless, a monkey would be a better president than the bling-bling moron.
The conclusion is very simple. Trump is younger than Biden and in better physical shape. That's why Trump should be president.
It was in the USSR that they liked to appoint old men as general secretaries, who were then buried under general mourning in Moscow. The USA does not want to turn into the USSR?
you should see him without his tons of bronze makeup, his hair implants, and his obese belly corset.photoshop, artificial intelligence, propaganda.
you should see him without his tons of bronze makeup, his hair implants, and his obese belly corset.photoshop, artificial intelligence, propaganda.
I'm afraid to imagine what Biden will be like then.
You don't need to look at the photo, you only need to watch the video.
Map of mosques in Germany.
:o :o :o
(https://scontent.flwo4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/424685777_925150449213440_1003799277644324944_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s600x600&_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd5e9f&_nc_ohc=cybe-IWOqzoAX9oolcm&_nc_ht=scontent.flwo4-1.fna&oh=00_AfAc08N2O_tNZ3z96DF2SR1W7XMAfPLTVKIBLCS9Ayh-Ag&oe=65D74140)
Germans, are you still alive there?
Now it’s clear why the Germans accept Ukrainians so much. ;D
This is not really unusual for a country in which around 3 million people with Turkish roots have been living for decades.Ok.
I find your criticism of the fact that we here in Germany offer people from Ukraine protection and, above all, medical care, is absolutely way below the belt and quite antisocial.I am confident that Ukraine itself can provide its refugees with everything they need on the territory of Ukraine.
In fact, he looks like this:+100
In fact, he looks like this:+100
Yes, that’s exactly what his character is.
I don't really know what you're trying to tell us.
I find your criticism of the fact that we here in Germany offer people from Ukraine protection and, above all, medical care, is absolutely way below the belt and quite antisocial.I am confident that Ukraine itself can provide its refugees with everything they need on the territory of Ukraine.
I don't really know what you're trying to tell us.
He is only proving that his "information" sources are deeply rooted in the maga, Le Pen, De Wilders, Orbán, AfD... etc Islamophobic bubbles.
Very precious from someone who claims to care about Muslim Crimean Tatars.
I don't really know what you're trying to tell us.
He is only proving that his "information" sources are deeply rooted in the maga, Le Pen, De Wilders, Orbán, AfD... etc Islamophobic bubbles.
Very precious from someone who claims to care about Muslim Crimean Tatars.
Yes, that was probably the hint.
However, you have to make a bit of a distinction. The political shift to the right in Europe is not primarily due to an Islamophobic bubble, but to growing problems caused by uncontrolled migration.
Yesterday in The Hague in the Netherlands, several hundred Eritreans attacked police officers and set fire to houses and cars. Nobody wants that here anymore.
I don't really know what you're trying to tell us.
He is only proving that his "information" sources are deeply rooted in the maga, Le Pen, De Wilders, Orbán, AfD... etc Islamophobic bubbles.
Very precious from someone who claims to care about Muslim Crimean Tatars.
Yes, that was probably the hint.
However, you have to make a bit of a distinction. The political shift to the right in Europe is not primarily due to an Islamophobic bubble, but to growing problems caused by uncontrolled migration.
Yesterday in The Hague in the Netherlands, several hundred Eritreans attacked police officers and set fire to houses and cars. Nobody wants that here anymore.
The anti-immigration sentiment stems not only from xenophobia, but even more from racism and Islamophobia (the real reason behind that mosques map).
Besides, Eritreans (probably) have a small Christian Orthodox majority.
As long as the immigrants are productive members of society, it doesn't matter if they belong to a different country, race, or religion.
If they are non-productive members of society, they should be blamed as much as the native non-productive members of society.
There is no place for "birth rights" in a free and civilised society.
Maps like that mosque map should not be a thing in a free and civilized society.
Maps like that mosque map should not be a thing in a free and civilized society.1. All Muslims are against Israel and support Hamas.
2. Russia is mainly a Muslim country. I think that the KGB is working with Muslims in Germany.
"russia has the largest Muslim population in Europe.""Muslims in Russia numbered 14 million or roughly 10% of the total population. One of the Grand Muftis of Russia, sheikh Rawil Gaynetdin, estimated the Muslim population of Russia at 25 million in 2018"
2. Russia is mainly a Muslim country. I think that the KGB is working with Muslims in Germany.
The rest of your "points" are simply wrong, ugly generalizations—a series of fascist, Islamophobic rants with no place in any democratic, free and civilized society.:'( :'( :'(
… Russia forces Rabotyne in Zaporozye region, it seems that both fronts are opened at the moment…What does both fronts mean?
"russia has the largest Muslim population in Europe."Now you are coming home.
This is a totally different matter than "russia is mainly a Muslim country."russia is mainly a Muslim country.
This is a totally different matter than "russia is mainly a Muslim country."russia is mainly a Muslim country.
I have this information. I cannot confirm it with statistics from the Russians. It's only you who read Russian statistics.
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/8/7179198/ (https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/8/7179198/)... so Poles send weapons to Ukraine, to help Russia...?!
Five checkpoints to be blocked on border with Poland, Hungarians to protest as well.
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The Russians have worked well with the Poles, Poland is helping russia occupy Ukraine. Of course, not all Poles do this there; most likely many Russians participate there. Well, this is for my posts about what happens when Russians live on the territory of an EU country.
This is a totally different matter than "russia is mainly a Muslim country."russia is mainly a Muslim country.
I have this information. I cannot confirm it with statistics from the Russians. It's only you who read Russian statistics.
The Poles block Ukrainian exports and imports. This is a blow to the Ukrainian economy. This is what the Russians need. And this has been going on since November 2023.https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/8/7179198/ (https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/8/7179198/)... so Poles send weapons to Ukraine, to help Russia...?!
Five checkpoints to be blocked on border with Poland, Hungarians to protest as well.
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The Russians have worked well with the Poles, Poland is helping russia occupy Ukraine. Of course, not all Poles do this there; most likely many Russians participate there. Well, this is for my posts about what happens when Russians live on the territory of an EU country.
Your arguments and your opinion are based on Russian statistics created under the control of the KGB. Go to the Russian trolls, they will accept you into their army.This is a totally different matter than "russia is mainly a Muslim country."russia is mainly a Muslim country.
I have this information. I cannot confirm it with statistics from the Russians. It's only you who read Russian statistics.
Yeah, yeah, yeah you have access to information nobody else has access to... because it's pulled out of your own private a@@.
Nothing new here. We know that already.
… they are protecting their economy, cargo transport companies and agriculture… I suppouse that you understand that everyone have problems, have people who live and work during the war in Ukraine… liberalisation of importing goods from Ukraine, like wheat, hits directly European agriculturist… they can not compete with prices of imported goods… like truck drivers in Poland, EU in general when asking to limit Ukrainian drivers with quotes and tax paying… if I undersood weel, Ukrainian druvers will pay taxes or take some tax numbers in Poland for their activities in EU from February 2024…They violate EU directives in the first place. Ukraine may not sell its products in Poland, but the Poles do not want to let Ukrainian exports to other countries. Yes, everything is done exactly as putin needs. After Ukraine, the Russians will occupy Poland. At the same time, Ukrainians no longer consider Poles friends.
Your arguments and your opinion are based on Russian statistics created under the control of the KGB. Go to the Russian trolls, they will accept you into their army.This is a totally different matter than "russia is mainly a Muslim country."russia is mainly a Muslim country.
I have this information. I cannot confirm it with statistics from the Russians. It's only you who read Russian statistics.
Yeah, yeah, yeah you have access to information nobody else has access to... because it's pulled out of your own private a@@.
Nothing new here. We know that already.
Although Democrats and Russians are friends, which means their trolls are also friends.
… as fast as you understand how global politics works, you will be enlightened… no one owns Ukraine anything, you should be happy that EU liberals take refugees and support your conflict with Russia with weapons and funds… they are doing that in their interest, of course and in some cases because of humanitarian reasons… there is no justice in this world, big fellows follow interests and when they play games like this, many of countries dissapear or are being destroyed…Agricultural products from russia and Belarus are imported to Poland, and the Poles do not block them. Everything is clear with Poland, it is already lay down under the Russians.
Not for us, but for you. I don’t need to prove anything to you, you yourself have proven to everyone here that you use Russian statistics (= propaganda) for your arguments.Your arguments and your opinion are based on Russian statistics created under the control of the KGB. Go to the Russian trolls, they will accept you into their army.This is a totally different matter than "russia is mainly a Muslim country."russia is mainly a Muslim country.
I have this information. I cannot confirm it with statistics from the Russians. It's only you who read Russian statistics.
Yeah, yeah, yeah you have access to information nobody else has access to... because it's pulled out of your own private a@@.
Nothing new here. We know that already.
Although Democrats and Russians are friends, which means their trolls are also friends.
Show us how you reached the conclusion that Russia is a predominantly Muslim state, and prove to us that you are correct. Go ahead! Do it!
Can you do that without pulling facts out of your a@@?
So. Russians are Asians, religion is Islam. Everything else is lies and KGB propaganda.
So. Russians are Asians, religion is Islam. Everything else is lies and KGB propaganda.
Oh Stoker, what kind of weird reasoning is that?
I've traveled and worked a lot in Asia and had to swallow.
Of course there are Muslims on the Asian continent.
The fact that the overall proportion is around 25% on the continent as a whole has to do primarily with Indonesia, which has a large population.
However, Buddhists and Hindus make up the majority. There are also smaller ethnic religions, Christians and so on. Islam is therefore more of a minority throughout Asia.
It can't be that difficult. If you have other clues from your secret sources, then let me know. I like to learn and can also revise my opinion.
RalfLiebhold, look at the religion in the countries that were part of the Russian empire, for example Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan.
Russians have been hiding their Asian essence and their Asian roots for several centuries. They appeared recently, have no history, are trying to steal the history of Ukrainians and are trying look like Europeans.
Oxford University professor Karl Abel (1837-1906) claimed that at the end of the 19th century only in the European part of Russia lived 40 million Finno-Tatars and only 15 million purely Slavic.
Abel, Carl Slavic and Latin. Ilchester lectures on comparative lexicography, delivered at the Taylor institution, Oxford, 1883.
Zero Talent, you are a troll.
Oxford University professor Karl Abel (1837-1906) claimed that at the end of the 19th century only in the European part of Russia lived 40 million Finno-Tatars and only 15 million purely Slavic.
Abel, Carl Slavic and Latin. Ilchester lectures on comparative lexicography, delivered at the Taylor institution, Oxford, 1883.
Carl Abel, not Karl.
In the Russian census of 1897, 11.7% of the population were Muslims. Russia had 125.7 million inhabitants, four-fifths of whom lived in the European part of Russia. Of the 125.7 million Russians, 3.7 million were Tatars. Those of these Tatars who emigrated to Finland between 1870 and 1920, i.e. the Finno-Tatars, were only a tiny proportion. There is something wrong with your figures. I think you have added one too many zeros to the 4 and one too many Finno before the word Tatars.
I answer everyone at once:RalfLiebhold, look at the religion in the countries that were part of the Russian empire, for example Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan.
Russians have been hiding their Asian essence and their Asian roots for several centuries. They appeared recently, have no history, are trying to steal the history of Ukrainians and are trying look like Europeans.
Yes, all of these states are predominantly Muslim. But they are not part of today's Russia.
I live on the Dutch border, but that doesn't make me Dutch.
In the Russian census of 1897::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
russia is Orthodox ChristianIn fact, there is Orthodox fascism there.
I think you have added one too many zeros to the 4 and one too many Finno before the word Tatars.I didn't add anything.
RalfLiebhold, look at the religion in the countries that were part of the Russian empire, for example Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan.
Russians have been hiding their Asian essence and their Asian roots for several centuries. They appeared recently, have no history, are trying to steal the history of Ukrainians and are trying look like Europeans.
Yes, all of these states are predominantly Muslim. But they are not part of today's Russia.
I live on the Dutch border, but that doesn't make me Dutch.
Russia is mainly a Muslim country..
Diversion from the topic is trolling.
Zero Talent, thanks to me you will learn a lot of new things for yourself. You must pay me money!russia is Orthodox ChristianIn fact, there is Orthodox fascism there.
I constantly write in this thread that Biden is a bas.tard and his place is in the electric chair. I also provide evidence of his criminal policies.Diversion from the topic is trolling.Fact: the original post made by Uncle Pete, (hence this topic) was about elections in the USA. Go back to the 1st page and check ;)
Russia is still a predominantly Orthodox Christian country. This is an indisputable fact.::) ::) ::)
russia is also a fascist state.Not only russia, but its church too.
when you are confronted with facts.For you, Russian lies and propaganda are facts. For me no. :)
he is also saying that before converting to Christianity, the Finno-Russian held pagan beliefs (thus not Islamic, probably Shamanic).This is true. For me these are axioms. This is new knowledge for you. ;D
dumb cult followers out of $400 golden sneakers. That's precisely what a true leader is expected to do. 🤮
(https://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37652.0;attach=20574;image)
Yes, Russian propaganda and disinformation are strong in Germany. Good job KGB.
… after Avdiivka, Rabotino have been next prey for Russians… something is going on, they sre moving superfast after a fall of Avdiivka…They advance, but do not move quickly. The Ukrainian Armed Forces in that direction are now killing a lot of Russian orcs. For now, I cannot say that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will leave that bridgehead.
dumb cult followers out of $400 golden sneakers. That's precisely what a true leader is expected to do. 🤮
(https://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37652.0;attach=20574;image)
Former US president and presidential candidate Donald Trump on Saturday advertised a pair of golden sneakers at "Sneaker Con."
"I've wanted to do this a long time," the former president said when he announced the launch of a sneaker line.
"The Never Surrender sneakers are your rally cry in shoe form. Lace- up and step out ready to conquer," the website says, referring to the shoes as a "true collector's item" that is "bold, gold and tough, just like President Trump."
https://www.dw.com/en/trump-hawks-399-golden-sneakers-after-court-ordered-fine/a-68290500 (https://www.dw.com/en/trump-hawks-399-golden-sneakers-after-court-ordered-fine/a-68290500)
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… it’s strange how they spread attacks widely and in with such intensity…The front line is 3750 km. About 500 thousand Russian orcs invaded Ukraine. There are several dangerous areas now, these are:
Yep, $20 shoes made in China. Look it up on Aliexpress or Temu.Will there be proofs?
he is also saying that before converting to Christianity, the Finno-Russian held pagan beliefs (thus not Islamic, probably Shamanic).This is true. For me these are axioms. This is new knowledge for you. ;D
Yep, $20 shoes made in China. Look it up on Aliexpress or Temu.Will there be proofs?
Where did you find these on Aliexpress? And where is the evidence that Trump buys them in China for $20.
I quoted this to say that Russians are Asians. Just for this purpose. You need to re-read what I wrote 5 more times.he is also saying that before converting to Christianity, the Finno-Russian held pagan beliefs (thus not Islamic, probably Shamanic).This is true. For me these are axioms. This is new knowledge for you. ;D
You quoted from that book, without bothering to read it (because you know your "axioms"), to "prove" that today's russia is "mainly" Muslim, because hundreds of years ago, Finno-Russian tribes holding Shamanic beliefs were more numerous than Slavo-Russians in the Muscovy region.
Perfect logic, as usual!
Zero Talent
1. It's a different shoe and a different model.
2. China steals a lot from models made in other countries, but the quality of China is crap. Have you ever bought shoes in China?
3. You have no evidence against Trump, just like all the Democrat trolls.
The company selling those shoes has been created only in January this year. It's located in the middle of nowhere in Wyoming, in a town known for hosting many shell companies.For such accusations, you need to buy these shoes and evaluate their quality for at least 3 weeks. I bought shoes for that kind of money in China, they are impossible to wear and they tear very quickly.
They obviously have no factories in the USA, or else they would have proudly slammed a big "Made in the USA", next to the T and that so called "American flag" which only has 5 stars (like the Chines flag, loool).
These shoes have no country of origin. They probably learned an embarassing lesson from those red maga hat.
The factories selling their products for $20 on AliExpress can customize any product based on your wishes, as long as you buy in bulk.
These shoes cost no more than $5 to produce. But you and other MAGA cult sheep are gullible enough to let yourselves be scammed by your guru.
The point of these shoes is to attract money from the electorate to support the Republican candidate. I think in the USA these are normal processes.
… according your data, there is only 100.000 left if 400.000 have been alredy KIA…… it’s strange how they spread attacks widely and in with such intensity…The front line is 3750 km. About 500 thousand Russian orcs invaded Ukraine. There are several dangerous areas now, these are:
1. Avdiivka.
2. Robotino.
3. Bakhmut.
4. Kupiansk.
This money is for no electoral campaign.Officially and legally it is possible to do so. But Trump said that this is a symbol of his election campaign. Therefore, sneakers already have political significance.
If for all time, then 1 million invaded, 500 thousand remained.… according your data, there is only 100.000 left if 400.000 have been alredy KIA…… it’s strange how they spread attacks widely and in with such intensity…The front line is 3750 km. About 500 thousand Russian orcs invaded Ukraine. There are several dangerous areas now, these are:
1. Avdiivka.
2. Robotino.
3. Bakhmut.
4. Kupiansk.
… like I said, something strange IS happening - Krynky, in Khershon region have been totally occupied… Russians are forcing UA from Kharkov to Kherson..:
… like I said, something strange IS happening - Krynky, in Khershon region have been totally occupied… Russians are forcing UA from Kharkov to Kherson..:Did you understand what you wrote?
It's not that strange, it's a consequence of maga republicans blocking the aid for Ukraine, and Ukraine is running out of ammunition...Republicans don't want to waste money on the idiocy of Biden and the Democrats. And they do it right.
Hundreds of Ukrainian troops may have been captured by advancing Russian units or disappeared during Ukraine’s chaotic retreat from the eastern city of Avdiivka, according to senior Western officials and soldiers fighting for Ukraine, a devastating loss that could deal a blow to already weakening morale.This is lies and propaganda from Democrats and Russians.
But no worries, trump will save Ukraine... ::)Of course, this is exactly what will happen. Trump will give what Ukraine needs, these are aviation, missiles, tanks. Trump will force the EU to provide all this in the required quantities.
More than four days later, Ukraine's "savior" has not yet mentioned a word about the murder of Navalny by his buddy putin.This is a coward, a bas.tard and a friend of putin Biden promised to apply crushing sanctions to the Russians if Navalny is killed. And where are these sanctions? Impeach Biden!
Nikki Haley, on the other hand:
Now Trump definitely doesn’t need to show himself as an ardent opponent of putin, let the Russians think that Trump is their friend. As for this Nikki Haley, she is engaged in populism.
And, of course, trump is a genius with secret master plan understood only by stocker and the other maga cult followers.I already wrote. The entire US military industry belongs to the Republicans. It will be very profitable for them to produce weapons for Ukraine using US taxpayers' money. Everything is obvious.
Zero Talent, are you tired of bringing the same stupid rags from the Democrats to the forum? I'm talking about your screenshots.
Stoker, your situation looks like this at the moment:There is only one difference: instead of that crowd, draw only two Germans and one troll from the Democrats. Total 3 people. ;D ;D ;D
I think we should end the discussion with you - you're permanently drunk.I'm not looking for a discussion with you. You are the one trolling.
Stoker, your situation looks like this at the moment:
But obviously you have delusions of grandeur, and this is already a mental diagnosis. Don't you know this, doctor?
… yes, I do understand…. i’m saying that it is crazy how wide front is and active by the moment - from Khershon to almost Kharkiv… and they are pushing with like crazy…… like I said, something strange IS happening - Krynky, in Khershon region have been totally occupied… Russians are forcing UA from Kharkov to Kherson..:Did you understand what you wrote?
The Ukrainian flag was installed in Krynky.
Kharkov and Kherson under the control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Everything's under control. In 2022 the situation was much worse.… yes, I do understand…. i’m saying that it is crazy how wide front is and active by the moment - from Khershon to almost Kharkiv… and they are pushing with like crazy…… like I said, something strange IS happening - Krynky, in Khershon region have been totally occupied… Russians are forcing UA from Kharkov to Kherson..:Did you understand what you wrote?
The Ukrainian flag was installed in Krynky.
Kharkov and Kherson under the control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
The Russians have begun the procedure to denounce the 1990 treaty with Germany.
As I understand it, the Russians are planning to occupy half of Germany.
Germans! Kick out your Scholz! Demand the transfer of Taurus missiles to Ukraine. Or prepare parking lots for Russian tanks.
How many Germans are ready to fight? How many planes and tanks can Germany field against the Russians?The Russians have begun the procedure to denounce the 1990 treaty with Germany.
As I understand it, the Russians are planning to occupy half of Germany.
Germans! Kick out your Scholz! Demand the transfer of Taurus missiles to Ukraine. Or prepare parking lots for Russian tanks.
I was in favor of sending Taurus missiles to the Ukraine, but if an invasion of Russian forces into Germany is imminent, I guess we better keep the missiles to ourselves, so that we have a chance to repel the invasion.
How many Germans are ready to fight? How many planes and tanks can Germany field against the Russians?
Your logic is not correct.
Ukraine can prevent Russians from approaching the EU borders and eliminate the Russian army on Ukrainian territory. If the Russians occupy Ukraine, Poland, and the Baltic states, they will approach the borders of Germany and the Russian army will be replenished with mobilized Ukrainians and Poles. You Germans won’t even want to resist.
You need to think strategically.
Better put KGB agent Merkel in prison and remove her follower Scholz.
Therefore, I am not surprised at how putin successfully manipulates the countries of the EU, NATO and the USA.
1. So what is the problem then about transferring missiles to Ukraine?How many Germans are ready to fight? How many planes and tanks can Germany field against the Russians?
Your logic is not correct.
Ukraine can prevent Russians from approaching the EU borders and eliminate the Russian army on Ukrainian territory. If the Russians occupy Ukraine, Poland, and the Baltic states, they will approach the borders of Germany and the Russian army will be replenished with mobilized Ukrainians and Poles. You Germans won’t even want to resist.
You need to think strategically.
Better put KGB agent Merkel in prison and remove her follower Scholz.
The voices in your head have forgotten a small variable:
If Russia were to attack just one of the countries mentioned, it would be fighting against NATO - in other words, over 30 countries.
And unlike Ukraine, these countries have air forces and navies.
And just by the way: 30,000 - 40,000 American soldiers are already stationed in Germany.
So just stay relaxed.
putin has successfully manipulated the maga fools to block all US aid for Ukraine.maga fools are not politicians, they are just maga fools. For two years, I have seen how putin has successfully manipulated Biden and the Democrats.
putin has successfully manipulated the maga fools to block all US aid for Ukraine.maga fools are not politicians, they are just maga fools. For two years, I have seen how putin has successfully manipulated Biden and the Democrats.
1. So what is the problem then about transferring missiles to Ukraine?
2. If the approach of the Russian army to the EU borders does not scare you, you can completely stop supporting Ukraine.
3. And my personal opinion is that those 40 thousand US soldiers will flee from Germany as quickly as they fled from Afghanistan. The likelihood of this is even higher if the Democrats and Biden win.
It's okay, I'm not annoyed by Republicans and their electorate.putin has successfully manipulated the maga fools to block all US aid for Ukraine.maga fools are not politicians, they are just maga fools. For two years, I have seen how putin has successfully manipulated Biden and the Democrats.
Have you seen all those maga fools who made it into the US Congress because they were sent there by other maga fools who voted for them?
Like those maga fools claiming that forest fires are caused by secret space Jewish lasers?
Like all those maga fools who blocked all aid for Ukraine?
Like the beloved maga ideologue Tucker Carlson who claims that life in russia is superior to life in the US?
Wake up and smell the coffee, my (gullible) friend!
1) I don't know, I'm not the Minister of Defense. The deliberations of the decision-makers take place behind closed doors. I find it understandable that in a war situation not all information is made public.But I know why and I’m writing about it. >:(
Zero Talent, putin supported Biden in the elections, and you support Biden, which means you work for putin.
Voting for maga is voting for Ukraine dismemberment.Then putin would have supported Trump. You contradict yourself because you are copying here propaganda from manuals created under the control of the KGB or Democrats.
Voting for maga is voting for Ukraine dismemberment.Then putin would have supported Trump. You contradict yourself because you are copying here propaganda from manuals created under the control of the KGB or Democrats.
US Democrats no longer know how to get out shame ;DVoting for maga is voting for Ukraine dismemberment.Then putin would have supported Trump. You contradict yourself because you are copying here propaganda from manuals created under the control of the KGB or Democrats.
putin is only suporting chaos in the enemy camp. He convinced Ukrainins like you support trump, against their interrest.
Besides, he never said he is "supporting" Biden. He said that Biden is more predictable.
Obviously, trump is like a 10-year-old spoiled child, and that's transparent to anyone but you.
Biden, he’s more experienced, more predictable, he’s a politician of the old formation,” Putin said, when asked which candidate would be better for Russia. “But we will work with any U.S. leader whom the American people trust.”
That made the 10-year-old mad because the one he thought he was getting along great with (as he said multiple times) doesn't like him anymore.
He is that stupid.
But gullible people like you and his cult followers believe that the 10-year-old brat has a secret master plan.
Right, right.
US Democrats no longer know how to get out shame ;DVoting for maga is voting for Ukraine dismemberment.Then putin would have supported Trump. You contradict yourself because you are copying here propaganda from manuals created under the control of the KGB or Democrats.
putin is only suporting chaos in the enemy camp. He convinced Ukrainins like you support trump, against their interrest.
Besides, he never said he is "supporting" Biden. He said that Biden is more predictable.
Obviously, trump is like a 10-year-old spoiled child, and that's transparent to anyone but you.
Biden, he’s more experienced, more predictable, he’s a politician of the old formation,” Putin said, when asked which candidate would be better for Russia. “But we will work with any U.S. leader whom the American people trust.”
That made the 10-year-old mad because the one he thought he was getting along great with (as he said multiple times) doesn't like him anymore.
He is that stupid.
But gullible people like you and his cult followers believe that the 10-year-old brat has a secret master plan.
Right, right.
Putin claims it will be better for Russia if Biden wins US election.
Putin was asked: "Who is better for us [Russians] – Biden or Trump?"
Quote from putin: "Biden. He is a more experienced person, he is predictable, and he is a politician of the old formation."
https://t.me/news_kremlin/3152 (https://t.me/news_kremlin/3152)
But trolls from the US Democratic Party will continue to claim that putin does not support Biden. What putin said is support!
putin is only supporting chaos in the enemy camp. He convinced Ukrainians like you to support trump, against their interests.If Biden had pursued a normal policy, there would have been neither putin nor the Russian federation.
putin is only supporting chaos in the enemy camp. He convinced Ukrainians like you to support trump, against their interests.If Biden had pursued a normal policy, there would have been neither putin nor the Russian federation.
Thanks to Biden, putin does whatever he wants.
I gave the facts. Everything else is your opinion or my opinion.
In fact, Republicans asked Biden and Democrats to give them a plan to support Ukraine. What's the end goal? Biden has not given this plan and constantly says all sorts of nonsense and blames the Republicans. I constantly wrote that the help that the Democrats give is not effective.putin is only supporting chaos in the enemy camp. He convinced Ukrainians like you to support trump, against their interests.If Biden had pursued a normal policy, there would have been neither putin nor the Russian federation.
Thanks to Biden, putin does whatever he wants.
I gave the facts. Everything else is your opinion or my opinion.
Wrong.
maga ensured that Ukraine is running out of ammunition by blocking all aid planned by the current administration..
Since repetitio est matter studiorum, let these facts sink into your brain:
putin is only supporting chaos in the enemy camp. He convinced Ukrainians like you to support trump, against their interests
In fact, Republicans asked Biden and Democrats to give them a plan to support Ukraine. What's the end goal? Biden has not given this plan and constantly says all sorts of nonsense and blames the Republicans. I constantly wrote that the help that the Democrats give is not effective.putin is only supporting chaos in the enemy camp. He convinced Ukrainians like you to support trump, against their interests.If Biden had pursued a normal policy, there would have been neither putin nor the Russian federation.
Thanks to Biden, putin does whatever he wants.
I gave the facts. Everything else is your opinion or my opinion.
Wrong.
maga ensured that Ukraine is running out of ammunition by blocking all aid planned by the current administration..
Since repetitio est matter studiorum, let these facts sink into your brain:
putin is only supporting chaos in the enemy camp. He convinced Ukrainians like you to support trump, against their interests
Zero Talent, your screenshot is a lie and propaganda of the Democrats.
..... I gave the facts. ....
putin could not be happier than this. His propaganda has worked. That's a fact.Putin was already satisfied with the meager assistance provided by the democrats. With the support that the Democrats have given and want to give, the Ukrainian Armed Forces cannot advance and liberate the territory. So it doesn't matter whether Republicans vote or don't vote. Until Biden shows them the plan and goals and a military plan for the supply of weapons is formed under this, the Republicans will not vote.
putin could not be happier than this. His propaganda has worked. That's a fact.Putin was already satisfied with the meager assistance provided by the democrats. With the support that the Democrats have given and want to give, the Ukrainian Armed Forces cannot advance and liberate the territory. So it doesn't matter whether Republicans vote or don't vote. Until Biden shows them the plan and goals and a military plan for the supply of weapons is formed under this, the Republicans will not vote.
Well, about blocking all help, you are no longer telling the truth. In addition to the United States, other countries are also providing assistance to Ukraine. Weapons are supplied by the EU, Great Britain, and Canada. Of course, the EU could supply 2-3 times more, but with a weak Biden, this is a problem.putin could not be happier than this. His propaganda has worked. That's a fact.Putin was already satisfied with the meager assistance provided by the democrats. With the support that the Democrats have given and want to give, the Ukrainian Armed Forces cannot advance and liberate the territory. So it doesn't matter whether Republicans vote or don't vote. Until Biden shows them the plan and goals and a military plan for the supply of weapons is formed under this, the Republicans will not vote.
Yes, putin was already satisfied to see the reluctance of Ukraine’s allies to go all in and offer a NATO no-fly zone or to provide jet fighters and long-range missiles directly to Ukraine.
But he cannot be happier than today when ALL support for Ukraine was blocked by maga fools, including the planned support that may have helped Ukraine to repel the ongoing russian offensive.
His propaganda is working.
putin is only supporting chaos in the enemy camp. He convinced Ukrainians like you to support trump, against their interests
Divide et impera has always worked.
His plan is working.
1) I don't know, I'm not the Minister of Defense. The deliberations of the decision-makers take place behind closed doors. I find it understandable that in a war situation not all information is made public.But I know why and I’m writing about it. >:(
Well, about blocking all help, you are no longer telling the truth. In addition to the United States, other countries are also providing assistance to Ukraine.
… as far as I can see, Ukrainian people hate Polish food - especially cheese spreads! :)Why?
This is a trolling stream. You yourself don’t know what you want to say anymore. How much do Democrats pay you for propaganda against Republicans?Well, about blocking all help, you are no longer telling the truth. In addition to the United States, other countries are also providing assistance to Ukraine.
Is that the best you can do?
Rest assured that for anyone able to properly read and think about it, it's obvious that your beloved maga fools have blocked ALL U.S. aid for Ukraine. Only someone with bad intentions (troll?) would take that statement out of its context and imply that I may have said that those beloved maga fools of yours voted to block the aid for Ukraine provided by other countries.
This is preposterous, but typical for someone who has nothing relevant left to say.
1. Merkel is a KGB agent and an agent of putin.1) I don't know, I'm not the Minister of Defense. The deliberations of the decision-makers take place behind closed doors. I find it understandable that in a war situation not all information is made public.But I know why and I’m writing about it. >:(
You know nothing, man! Nothing at all!
I can not beleive that you have not seen videos where some Ukrainian people walk through supermarkets and throw food from Poland to the ground… and steps on it… do you agree with tgis practice…?!… as far as I can see, Ukrainian people hate Polish food - especially cheese spreads! :)Why?
… so all those KGB agents and Putin friends provided you weapons and funds, gave shellter to refugees and public support because of…?! I can not understand your logic…I can not beleive that you have not seen videos where some Ukrainian people walk through supermarkets and throw food from Poland to the ground… and steps on it… do you agree with tgis practice…?!… as far as I can see, Ukrainian people hate Polish food - especially cheese spreads! :)Why?
I haven't seen such videos. Give me a link.I can not beleive that you have not seen videos where some Ukrainian people walk through supermarkets and throw food from Poland to the ground… and steps on it… do you agree with tgis practice…?!… as far as I can see, Ukrainian people hate Polish food - especially cheese spreads! :)Why?
… so all those KGB agents and Putin friends provided you weapons and funds, gave shellter to refugees and public support because of…?! I can not understand your logic…I don’t understand the question, are you asking about the Germans?
… and what is your postition about massacres in Volhyniya and Eastern Galicia…?!I think you are trying to bring Russian propaganda into this forum.
Until the Democrats show the plan and the range of weapons for it, the Republicans will not vote. And I am against Ukraine being given something (just to give it) and it is not clear for what purpose.
Der Bundestag hat die Lieferung von Taurus-Marschflugkörpern an die Ukraine abgelehnt. Ein Antrag der CDU/CSU-Bundestagsfraktion, in dem dieses deutsche Waffensystem explizit genannt wurde, erhielt am Donnerstag keine Mehrheit. Nur 182 Abgeordnete stimmten dafür, 480 dagegen, es gab 5 Enthaltungen.
https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/video250217136/Bundestag-lehnt-Unions-Antrag-zu-Taurus-Lieferungen-ab.html (https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/video250217136/Bundestag-lehnt-Unions-Antrag-zu-Taurus-Lieferungen-ab.html)
>:( >:( >:(
I didn’t expect anything else from the Germans.
Warning: Some may find pictures and facts as disturbing!This is all Russian propaganda. Crimes committed by Russians are shifted onto Ukrainians. Ukraine is not currently in the position of a country that can resist propaganda. Therefore, Ukraine will maintain silence. Any word from Ukraine leads to the fact that the Poles begin to work for the Russians.
The plan of the current administration was to provide Ukraine with the necessary ammunition to repel the ongoing Russian offensive.No, that's a lie.
But I guess this plan is not good enough for you, and you prefer NOTHING instead.The Ukrainian Armed Forces left Avdiivka because it was 2/3 surrounded. Surrounded back in 2023, before any votes in Congress. The Ukrainian Armed Forces could not attack either in 2022 or 2023, because the Democrats did not provide the necessary weapons. When an army is on the defensive, the army loses lives and territories are gradually occupied. An army that is on the defensive will always lose. This is an axiom of military affairs.
You prefer to let russia continue its conquest.
No worries then, your beloved maga friends are making sure that russia's conquest will not stop with Avdiivka, Bakhmut...
What you fail to understand is that the so-called GOP plan you are dreaming about was never put to a vote because it stands no chance in front of the maga majority. In fact, it is more of a political stunt than a plan.Republicans demand a plan from the bas.tard Biden. When Biden gives this plan, then we will talk about the Republicans.
The fact is that a majority of the Republican representatives, the maga faction, voted against them and against the bill.This is a lie, the maga faction has never been a majority in the Republican Party. You lie and write propaganda. Even those Republicans who vote against are not part of the maga faction.
Comparing the deportation of Ukrainians in the Second World War with the current humanitarian reception of Ukrainian refugees is nonsense, simply disgusting and embarrassing.You don't like the truth. Nobody likes the truth. You know this as a doctor.
https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/wladimir-putin-joe-biden-nennt-kremlchef-einen-durchgeknallten-mistkerl-a-853a4a5b-bb5a-4b6c-be39-73b9c5c67e34 (https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/wladimir-putin-joe-biden-nennt-kremlchef-einen-durchgeknallten-mistkerl-a-853a4a5b-bb5a-4b6c-be39-73b9c5c67e34):o :o :o ;D ;D ;D :'( :'( :'( :'(
..."The US president used the expression "crazy SOB" to insult Putin. "SOB" is short for "son of a bitch", which can be translated as "*insult removed*" in German.
Biden has already referred to Putin as a "butcher" and "war criminal" in the past."
https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Trump-lobt-Putins-Vorgehen-als-genial-article23146752.html (https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Trump-lobt-Putins-Vorgehen-als-genial-article23146752.html)I don't care much about what Trump says or what Biden says. I'm interested in realpolitik. Trump's policies when he was president were good, better than those of Obama and Biden.
..."Former US President Donald Trump has caused a stir with his unusual praise for Russian head of state Vladimir Putin's actions against Ukraine. In a podcast, Trump described Putin's announcement to recognize the separatist areas in eastern Ukraine and send soldiers to the region as "brilliant". The Russian president is "clever" and "savvy".
https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/trump-nato-ukraine-100.html (https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/trump-nato-ukraine-100.html)It's a lie. When the Russians occupied Crimea, the US President was Democrat Obama.
..."The fact that Donald Trump admires Russian President Vladimir Putin and even wants to give him a free hand against NATO countries, that Trump conceded Crimea to Russia because Russian is spoken there - all of this is present in Ukraine."
… he is constantly seing facts that no one else can’t see… I don’t understand if he is doing that with a purpose or simply not seeing and getit… this war is all about mathematics and simply they can not win in long term… western regions of Ukraine are radical and they have lot of potential to be mobilised in army… biut it is not endless resource of people… Polish are looking for their interests and because of their history with Ukraine, reason I mentioned before… people from eastern parts are refugees or with Russians already… Transcarpathia is not motivated to fight and that is why Putin is doing a favor for a favors to Orban… Ukraine becames depopulated and in hunt for men to be mobilised, even from other countries where their people have refugee status…You wrote partly the truth. This is the result of NATO countries not providing the necessary weapons to Ukraine.
And for me, one thing is certain. There is someone in power in China who is very happy to see the two former major blocs tearing each other apart. Because in the future, both will be second class to China.China is part of the axis of world evil, it finances the Russians and it is beneficial for China to weaken and occupy NATO countries.
… Wikipedia, OUP-B and Bandera are and were Russian propaganda…?! So according your sources, what happened to those people during summer 1943…?!1. The KGB archives in Moscow are closed, no one has access to them.
With your constant bashing of Germany, you've played a small part in that. Congratulations.;D ;D ;D
The fact is that a majority of the Republican representatives, the maga faction, voted against them and against the bill.This is a lie, the maga faction has never been a majority in the Republican Party. You lie and write propaganda. Even those Republicans who vote against are not part of the maga faction.
Zero Talent, you are scaring everyone here with some kind of maga faction and what they supposedly for putin and that these maga want to support russia. This is such nonsense. The most you can provide as evidence is someone else's statements, that's all. You have nothing against the maga faction or the republicans. While the Democrats and Biden have been committing political crimes for 2 years, incl. against the USA, and you are trying to blame the Republicans for everything.
Especially for you, read the Republican plan and their real accusations against the Democrats 5 times, and stop defending the Democrats here.
https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Proposed-Plan-for-Victory-in-Ukraine.pdf (https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Proposed-Plan-for-Victory-in-Ukraine.pdf)
As for that daughter in the video, she doesn’t understand at all what politics is, what’s happening in Ukraine, what Ukraine needs and what the democrats are doing. You Democrats are in a bag of propaganda. Once again, Ukraine needs a plan and weapons to support this plan. Just shells, in some small quantity, will not solve the problem at the front. Therefore, it is better not to receive anything at all from the United States and thereby reduce Biden’s rating, than to receive something meager and increase the rating of this freak Biden.
Now we need to remove democrats from power and judge them. And we will see whether or not to judge the maga faction after the Republicans win and what their policy will be. I don't care what those in maga faction say, I'm only interested in real politics.
That freak Biden had 3 years to pursue normal policies. He mediocrely wasted these years and helped the Russians. And no maga faction bothered him these 3 years. Now the time has come for him to answer and I hope he will be put in the electric chair.
While they criticized the current aid levels (as they should), they never voted against Ukraine, like the maga majority.Is that all the accusations you can bring against the Republican Party? ;D ;D ;D
They are not part of the maga majority who blocked all aid for Ukraine.
While they criticized the current aid levels (as they should), they never voted against Ukraine, like the maga majority.Is that all the accusations you can bring against the Republican Party? ;D ;D ;D
They are not part of the maga majority who blocked all aid for Ukraine.
Republicans are not voting against Ukraine, they are voting against the idiotic policies of the Democrats and Biden.
So, you agree with the accusations made by these 3 Republicans. Great, then you must understand that Biden is a criminal, and his place is in prison!
Zero Talent, How much do the democrats pay you to post their propaganda pictures? ;D ;D ;D
Trump did more for Ukraine in his time than this Biden. Behind Trump is the Republican Party and the US citizens are Republicans. Fuck the Democrats!
I won't be surprised if Trump wins. Democrats are the same as Russians with the same low level of propaganda. I think US citizens have long understood this.
Zero Talent, you are scaring everyone here with some kind of maga faction and what they supposedly for putin and that these maga want to support russia.
However I don't mind off-topic discussions, this thread has gone way out of line, and it makes no sense anymore.I won't be surprised if Trump wins. Democrats are the same as Russians with the same low level of propaganda. I think US citizens have long understood this.
You don't even realize e how effective russian propaganda is.
They even convinced you that trump is your saviour.
So sad!
However I don't mind off-topic discussions, this thread has gone way out of line, and it makes no sense anymore.I won't be surprised if Trump wins. Democrats are the same as Russians with the same low level of propaganda. I think US citizens have long understood this.
You don't even realize e how effective russian propaganda is.
They even convinced you that trump is your saviour.
So sad!
"OK Sergey" is the only possible reply to him.
You have to realize he's most probably just one of those many Russian trolls wandering online forums (social media and Reddit is full of them) wanting to undermine anything that's pro democracy or not in line with Russian propaganda.
This thread, despite so many people giving valuable information, willing to have fair discussions or debates, should be closed (sorry Pete! I know you had the right intentions here!)
I won't be surprised if Trump wins. Democrats are the same as Russians with the same low level of propaganda. I think US citizens have long understood this.
You don't even realize e how effective russian propaganda is.
They even convinced you that trump is your saviour.
So sad!
You have to realize he's most probably just one of those many Russian trolls wandering online forums (social media and Reddit is full of them) wanting to undermine anything that's pro democracy or not in line with Russian propaganda.
That freak Biden had 3 years to pursue normal policies. He mediocrely wasted these years and helped the Russians. And no maga faction bothered him these 3 years. Now the time has come for him to answer and I hope he will be put in the electric chair.
Unlike you, I think and analyze. You are proposing to support the weak and ineffective Biden, who has proven his weakness and ineffectiveness many times over. At the same time, you have already branded and put an end to Trump, who has not even become president yet and has not done anything.I won't be surprised if Trump wins. Democrats are the same as Russians with the same low level of propaganda. I think US citizens have long understood this.
You don't even realize how effective russian propaganda is.
They even convinced you that trump is your saviour.
So sad!
If you think that Biden should be in the electric chair because he is not helping Ukraine1. Biden's failure to implement the Budapest Memorandum.
Unlike you, I think and analyze. You are proposing to support the weak and ineffective Biden, who has proven his weakness and ineffectiveness many times over. At the same time, you have already branded and put an end to Trump, who has not even become president yet and has not done anything.I won't be surprised if Trump wins. Democrats are the same as Russians with the same low level of propaganda. I think US citizens have long understood this.
You don't even realize how effective russian propaganda is.
They even convinced you that trump is your saviour.
So sad!
I'm ashamed of you Zero Talent, I had a better opinion of you.
I am sure that you are pursuing personal gain from the victory of the Democrats. That's why I ask, what amounts of money are we talking about, how much did you sell yourself to the Democrats for?
PS.
I don't read Russian propaganda and don't have discussions with Russian trolls. My information field has been cleared of Russian lies.
Watch your president address the trump and maga crisis using, as you said, diplomatic language.I Jump to 19:57 so what? What should I hear there? There is simply diplomatic language regarding Trump’s pre-election populism about ending the war in 24 hours. Trump can generally say whatever he wants, he won’t be judged for his words.
Jump to 19:57 in this video:
https://youtu.be/oUSglsQ8owU
He is clearly hoping that trump "will change his mind," which, for everyone but you, only means that trump's mind is not in favor of Ukraine.
But putin's propaganda is so effective that you view him as your savior!
Unbelievable, but true! Stockholm syndrome?
Luckily for Ukraine, forum lunatics are not in charge, but wise people who see things as they are: a victory for trump and maga means Ukraine's dismemberment and even annihilation.
Luckily for Ukraine, forum lunatics are not in charge, but wise people who see things as they are: a victory for trump and maga means Ukraine's dismemberment and even annihilation.:'( :'( :'(
https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/wladimir-putin-joe-biden-nennt-kremlchef-einen-durchgeknallten-mistkerl-a-853a4a5b-bb5a-4b6c-be39-73b9c5c67e34 (https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/wladimir-putin-joe-biden-nennt-kremlchef-einen-durchgeknallten-mistkerl-a-853a4a5b-bb5a-4b6c-be39-73b9c5c67e34)As I already wrote, putin was not even offended. This was a speech coordinated with putin to maintain Biden’s rating.
..."The US president used the expression "crazy SOB" to insult Putin. "SOB" is short for "son of a bitch", which can be translated as "*insult removed*" in German.
https://amp.dw.com/en/ukrainian-refugees-in-germany-why-few-work-for-a-living/a-68338226
… one participant in this theme, always resists to other opinions even if there are credible sources on actual themes… he finds enemys where they are not… yes, there is controversy in this text on DW… but some facts are not supporting positions of his conspiracy theory universum…
?! How you have considered I was talking about you…?! One you mentioned I was reffering to….
There is one thing that I’m not sure about him - is he just confused or very thoughtful spinner…
I Jump to 19:57 so what? What should I hear there?
The Democrats' propaganda is very strong. Almost all media and courts are controlled by Democrats. Of course, there are many people in Ukraine who listen to the Democrats and think that Trump and the Republicans are friends of the Russians. Propaganda always works effectively, that’s why it’s propaganda.I Jump to 19:57 so what? What should I hear there?
Then, jump to 13:43 in this clip: https://youtu.be/Joz76E3_7ow
If you don't want to listen to this forum, then listen to your compatriot who, unlike you, lives in the real world and knows what Ukraine needs and, most importantly, what it does not need: to be sold out to putin by trump and his maga cult.
Luckily, as we can see in this clip, despite the impression this forum might give, there are many intelligent Ukrainians who know how to distinguish between reality and wishful thinking..
to be sold out to putin by trump and his maga cult.:'( :'( :'( ::) ::) ::)
This young guy got into politics in vain.
All Ukrainians who see trump and his maga cult for the danger they are manipulated by a worldwide media conspiracy.+100
All Ukrainians who see trump and his maga cult for the danger they are manipulated by a worldwide media conspiracy.+100
Re-read what I answered to you. I wrote to you that a lot of Ukrainians and Ukrainian military experts have a bad attitude towards US Democrats. Therefore, I am not the only one who is “illuminati”, as you put it.All Ukrainians who see trump and his maga cult for the danger they are manipulated by a worldwide media conspiracy.+100
Yes, that's also what I said:
"Only our stocker, Tucker Carlson, and a few other "illuminati" can see through it..."
PS. I forgot to add putin and trump to the list of "illuminati", sorry!
Therefore, I am not the only one who is “illuminati”, as you put it.
You have a few on your side: putin, Tucker Carlson, trump, and his maga cultists...Putin publicly supported Biden. You deny the facts. This is how Democratic propaganda works.
All Ukrainians who see trump and his maga cult for the danger they are manipulated by a worldwide media conspiracy.+100
Yes, that's also what I said:
"Only our stocker, Tucker Carlson, and a few other "illuminati" can see through it..."
PS. I forgot to add putin and trump to the list of "illuminati", sorry!
Yes, Ukraine has a shortage of weapons, but this shortage has been going on for 2 years. While the EU and Euro-parasites, seeing that Ukraine needs weapons, do not provide them. These Euro-parasites help Biden blame the Republicans for everything.
You have a few on your side: putin, Tucker Carlson, trump, and his maga cultists...Putin publicly supported Biden. You deny the facts. This is how Democratic propaganda works.
You have a few on your side: putin, Tucker Carlson, trump, and his maga cultists...Putin publicly supported Biden. You deny the facts. This is how Democratic propaganda works.
Yes, putin is a KGB agent. Yes, he does any actions for some purpose. But these are my words, not yours.You have a few on your side: putin, Tucker Carlson, trump, and his maga cultists...Putin publicly supported Biden. You deny the facts. This is how Democratic propaganda works.
putin is messing with your head, doing a great job of sowing discord among allies.
Allow me to remind you that you have consistently emphasized that he is a KGB agent who should never be trusted.
I believe most of us concur with that assessment.
It is noteworthy that now you have abruptly gained confidence in the veracity of his statements.
Unfortunately, you have become too indoctrinated to perceive his message with clarity, falling victim to his highly effective propaganda.
https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-de/schwerpunkte/krieg-in-der-ukraine/lieferungen-ukraine-2054514 (https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-de/schwerpunkte/krieg-in-der-ukraine/lieferungen-ukraine-2054514)Yes, Ukraine has a shortage of weapons, but this shortage has been going on for 2 years. While the EU and Euro-parasites, seeing that Ukraine needs weapons, do not provide them. These Euro-parasites help Biden blame the Republicans for everything.All Ukrainians who see trump and his maga cult for the danger they are manipulated by a worldwide media conspiracy.+100
Yes, that's also what I said:
"Only our stocker, Tucker Carlson, and a few other "illuminati" can see through it..."
PS. I forgot to add putin and trump to the list of "illuminati", sorry!
https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1367857/umfrage/militaerische-unterstuetzungsleistungen-der-usa-an-die-ukraine/ (https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1367857/umfrage/militaerische-unterstuetzungsleistungen-der-usa-an-die-ukraine/)
To see more: > "Nächste"
which means next page.
As most of the things that Putin says are lies, that is how you should know that Biden is worse for Putin and better for Ukraine, *. Or do you suddenly trust Putin?The question of trust is not relevant.
Stoker2014, I would like to ask you to stop antagonizing Ukraine's allies and stop posting Trumpist delusions and nonsenses, or I will consider you a Russian troll. Perhaps you spend a part of your life in a parallel universe where Trump is decent and on the side of Ukraine. But in this universe, he is a Putin's pawn, for crying out loud.:'( :'( :'(
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/26/7443828/ (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/26/7443828/)
Yes, putin is a KGB agent. Yes, he does any actions for some purpose. But these are my words, not yours.You have a few on your side: putin, Tucker Carlson, trump, and his maga cultists...Putin publicly supported Biden. You deny the facts. This is how Democratic propaganda works.
putin is messing with your head, doing a great job of sowing discord among allies.
Allow me to remind you that you have consistently emphasized that he is a KGB agent who should never be trusted.
I believe most of us concur with that assessment.
It is noteworthy that now you have abruptly gained confidence in the veracity of his statements.
Unfortunately, you have become too indoctrinated to perceive his message with clarity, falling victim to his highly effective propaganda.
You all here always directly perceive what Biden, Trump and putin say. If putin supported Trump, you Zero Talent would be the first to shout that Trump is the friend and hope of the Russians.
Now this is what we have. We have already seen two public speeches by putin, when he twice supports Biden and even says that he supports him in the US elections. This is a signal for all Russians in the USA and for all Russian trolls to support Biden. This is exactly how putin communicates with the troll army. If you have evidence that Russian trolls are now supporting Trump, publish that evidence.
Also, Biden, immediately after putin’s first statement, began calling him funny names, which also raises questions for Biden. Isn't Biden a fool?
As for me, I have been seeing Biden’s cowardly and pro-Russian policies for 3 years now, so I don’t care what putin says, I believe that Biden is a friend of the Russians. Trump is an enemy of the Russians, and he proved it with his policies when he was president.
Therefore, when I refer to facts, and this is putin’s support for Biden, I do this specifically for the sect called “US Democrats.” You Zero Talent are not an independent voter, you are a Democrat troll. These are also facts.
When he says he will make peace with putin in 24 hours, he truly intends to do so by giving putin what he wants: lifting U.S. hands off Ukraine and handing it over on a silver platter. He will then claim that he prevented World War III.These are your fantasies that are not supported by facts. You either came up with all this yourself, or read it in the propaganda of the Democrats.
He is not a strategic thinker or a mastermind. He is a moron, and everyone (including a pro Ukraine GOP minority) can see it, except for you and his maga cult.
That's what putin wants you to want. 🙄When he says he will make peace with putin in 24 hours, he truly intends to do so by giving putin what he wants: lifting U.S. hands off Ukraine and handing it over on a silver platter. He will then claim that he prevented World War III.I hope that's why Trump wins.
He is not a strategic thinker or a mastermind. He is a moron, and everyone (including a pro Ukraine GOP minority) can see it, except for you and his maga cult.
he truly intends to do so by giving putin what he wants: lifting U.S. hands off Ukraine and handing it over on a silver platter. He will then claim that he prevented World War III.This is exactly what Biden has been doing for 3 years. Before Biden, Democrat Obama did this. Democrats are criminals!
… there is no worry for EU until you are killing ‘orcs’+100
Republicans Who Like PutinThis entire text is propaganda and manipulation by cowardly democrats. It's not surprising that you didn't even indicate its source (although this is not very important).
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Republicans Who Like PutinThis entire text is propaganda and manipulation by cowardly democrats. It's not surprising that you didn't even indicate its source (although this is not very important).
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However, I was right, US citizens do not want to vote for the cowardly, old and ineffective Biden.
The New York Times is a newspaper that is controlled by Democrats and constantly blames Republicans for everything. This newspaper also publishes a lot of anti-Ukrainian articles paid for by Russians.Republicans Who Like PutinThis entire text is propaganda and manipulation by cowardly democrats. It's not surprising that you didn't even indicate its source (although this is not very important).
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However, I was right, US citizens do not want to vote for the cowardly, old and ineffective Biden.
It's an article published a few hours ago in the New York Times. I copy pasted it since it is behind a paywall. But that's not relevant.
What's important is that it summarizes points I explained to you during the past 6 months or so (except for the Smirnov crap, I don't care about).
You refuse to acknowledge it despite evidence screaming in your face: trump and maga are very bad news for Ukraine. You are cheering for Ukraine's dismemberment! :(
The New York Times is a newspaper that is controlled by Democrats and constantly blames Republicans for everything. This newspaper also publishes a lot of anti-Ukrainian articles paid for by Russians.Republicans Who Like PutinThis entire text is propaganda and manipulation by cowardly democrats. It's not surprising that you didn't even indicate its source (although this is not very important).
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However, I was right, US citizens do not want to vote for the cowardly, old and ineffective Biden.
It's an article published a few hours ago in the New York Times. I copy pasted it since it is behind a paywall. But that's not relevant.
What's important is that it summarizes points I explained to you during the past 6 months or so (except for the Smirnov crap, I don't care about).
You refuse to acknowledge it despite evidence screaming in your face: trump and maga are very bad news for Ukraine. You are cheering for Ukraine's dismemberment! :(
Everything that is written in this article is not serious for people who analyze the situation and policies of Biden and his assistants.
I want the US to pursue effective policies. Democrats can't do that.
And yet, you have done nothing to refute the arguments, because you can't. The facts, the numbers, the voting records, the statements, and the logic all are against you.Do you want me to refute what you wrote in post #2803? I thought I had already written a lot of posts refuting that propaganda.
The only thing you can do is to attack the authority of the writer.
Which writer's authority did I attack?
The New York Times is a newspaper that is controlled by Democrats and constantly blames Republicans for everything.
This newspaper writes articles paid for by Democrats. There is no analysis in these articles, only propaganda. I recommend that you re-read my posts in this topic 3 times over the past 2 weeks. And I'm glad that US citizens agree with me.Which writer's authority did I attack?You don’t understand basic things.
Below is your attack on an author’s authority (New York Times) that you made without addressing the substance of the argument:The New York Times is a newspaper that is controlled by Democrats and constantly blames Republicans for everything.Because you can't refute any of those claims. Facts are against you.
Which won't happen unless the Ukraine war endsRare earths, for example, are hardly available in Europe.“Ukraine needs to use its mineral resources to prosper. This requires new technologies and large investments.”
… according this manipulated map, there are no pretensions to EU countries…
This is so ridiculous!It's not ridiculous. This is Russian Nazism and propaganda. Now the Russians are trying to convince the NATO countries that they just need to divide Ukraine, and that the Russians will not occupy the EU countries and Moldova. We already saw all this in the 30s of the last century, this is exactly how Hitler acted. Then they divided the Czech Republic and Poland, and everyone around seemed to agree. But eventually the Second World War began.
… I have seen these on Telegram - there must be some manipulation since reflections on floor are in different colors…These are patterns on the floor, not reflections. A better view on the same patterns is in these frames from the same clip:
… where have you seen orcs…?! I can only see real people in uniforms…
Context needed: people in uniforms suffering consequences for invading a sovereign and independent country.Russians cannot be called people. Russians are genetic orcs.
… sovereign and independent…?! :)… where have you seen orcs…?! I can only see real people in uniforms…
Context needed: people in uniforms suffering consequences for invading a sovereign and independent country.
… sovereign and independent…?! :)… where have you seen orcs…?! I can only see real people in uniforms…
Context needed: people in uniforms suffering consequences for invading a sovereign and independent country.
Of course, as per the global consensus and international law, bar russia and a handful of its misguided cronies.… sovereign and independent…?! :)… where have you seen orcs…?! I can only see real people in uniforms…
Context needed: people in uniforms suffering consequences for invading a sovereign and independent country.
… yes, you are right… Ukraine is independent and sovereign, without any infuence… Bram Stocker stories are real and his facts universe can be considered as objective…
… yes, you are right… Ukraine is independent and sovereign, without any infuence… Bram Stocker stories are real and his facts universe can be considered as objective…
I don't doubt that mistakes were made in Ukraine - also with regard to dealing with Russia-friendly sections of the population. But nothing - absolutely nothing - can justify attacking the country!???
… sovereign and independent countries are not influenced by others in any decision - right or wrong… in Bram Stokers and his country interest is not to provide material with killed people… especially not on microstock forums…
… sovereign and independent countries are not influenced by others in any decision...
I don't doubt that mistakes were made in Ukraine - also with regard to dealing with Russia-friendly sections of the population. But nothing - absolutely nothing - can justify attacking the country!???
Everything else that concerns some kind of bad attitude towards those people who liked russia and putin, these are all narratives of Russian propaganda.
you'd better keep quiet!!!No. I am the one who writes the truth. You Germans don't like the truth.
Trump is doing the right thing by not supporting this Navalny.
I won’t draw any conclusions about Trump now; everything will be shown by his policies as President of the United States.
Trump is doing the right thing by not supporting this Navalny.
Of course he does not: the enemies of my friends are my enemies.
Haley exits race, creating a Biden-Trump rematch.
She didn’t endorse Trump but instead called on him to earn the support of voters who backed her.
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How is she different from Biden? She is also a member of the Republican Party....
Kick her out of the Republican Party!
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/02/gaza-aid-airdrop-biden-00144563 (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/02/gaza-aid-airdrop-biden-00144563)Arab and Russian terrorism leads to deaths. The Russians support and are friends with Hamas. Moreover, Egypt, Turkey and other Arab countries could accept refugees from Palestine, but they do not want to do so. In the Middle East, terrorism is already to the cubic degree.
Germany’s Ukraine policy is incoherent for a reasonI expected nothing less from fellow KGB agent Merkel. The Germans do not understand that Scholz is leading their country to occupation by Russian orcs.
The German chancellor is driven by a deep-seated fear of Russia and a desire to be seen as a “peace chancellor.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/germanys-ukraine-policy-is-incoherent-for-a-reason/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/germanys-ukraine-policy-is-incoherent-for-a-reason/)
It is now up to Donald Trump to earn the votes of those in our party and beyond it who did not support him. And I hope he does that. At its best, politics is about bringing people into your cause, not turning them away. And our conservative cause badly needs more people. This is now his time for choosing.[/i]If this aunt positions herself as a member of the Republican Party, she was obliged to give the votes of her voters to Trump. Now, in fact, she is helping cowardly and deceitful Democrats and, in fact, giving them her votes.
Yeah... you don't need any pro-Ukraine authentic conservative Republicans!It's a lie. I wrote about the fact that a member of the Republican Party should give the votes of his voters to another member of the party, and not give votes to the Democrats.
Yeah... you don't need any pro-Ukraine authentic conservative Republicans!It's a lie. I wrote about the fact that a member of the Republican Party should give the votes of his voters to another member of the party, and not give votes to the Democrats.
She is only asking trump to win the trust of true conservative Republicans::) ::) ::) :'( :'( :'(
She is only asking trump to win the trust of true conservative Republicans::) ::) ::) :'( :'( :'(
Poor attempt to justify Nikki Haley's betrayal.
As for Trump's meetings, no one knows what goals he is pursuing and what he will really talk about. Only based on the results of US policy under President Trump will it be possible to draw conclusions. Hungary is a member of the EU and NATO.
It will be too late to react when putin's tanks roll over Kyiv, with trump's blessing...:'( :'( :'(
It will be too late to react when putin's tanks roll over Kyiv, with trump's blessing...:'( :'( :'(
With the help that cowardly democrats have been providing for 3 years, it is still a miracle that Ukraine has not yet been occupied. And this miracle is only thanks to the heroism of the Ukrainians.
Fuck the Democrats! Fuck Biden!
Without additional help, heroism alone will not suffice. And rest assured that no help will come from trump and his maga cult, in spite of your "sit and wait," deluded, wishful thinking.Effective US policy is not what the Democrats tell you about.
But this is not necessary, the United States can supply zero weapons to Ukraine.
So far, only russia has violated international laws and invaded an independent and sovereign country.:o
Because Biden doesn't do anything. Biden is not pursuing any effective policy and Biden does not allow other countries to transfer the F16 and other necessary weapons made in the USA or based on American technologies to Ukraine. Moreover, Biden pursued a policy of transferring a minimum amount of weapons to Ukraine.But this is not necessary, the United States can supply zero weapons to Ukraine.Why are you complaining that "Biden" is not giving you enough weapons, if suddenly you don't need them anymore?
Because that's music to putin's ears, you russian (involuntary?) asset!
Biden pursued a policy of transferring a minimum amount of weapons to Ukraine.
But this is not necessary, the United States can supply zero weapons to Ukraine.
You just said that you don't need American weapons.You need to re-read my posts 3 times. ;D
As for Trump's meetings, no one knows what goals he is pursuing and what he will really talk about. Only based on the results of US policy under President Trump will it be possible to draw conclusions. Hungary is a member of the EU and NATO.
Yeah, yeah, yeah... for the past hundred pages, you criticized the current US administration for not providing enough weapons to Ukraine.
Now, suddenly, you don't need US weapons anymore.As for Trump's meetings, no one knows what goals he is pursuing and what he will really talk about. Only based on the results of US policy under President Trump will it be possible to draw conclusions. Hungary is a member of the EU and NATO.
You defend trump, and now you defend his protégé, Orbán.
When will you defend their ideological twin, putin, you (involuntary?) russian asset?
Here is what Orbán (putin's pawn inside EU) had to say:
https://abouthungary.hu/speeches-and-remarks/interview-with-viktor-orban-by-tucker-carlson
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Carlson:
If you take a step back, the point of NATO is to provoke war with Russia.
Orbán:
This is a bad strategy. We have to stop it. We cannot beat them (i.e. russians). They will not kill their leader. They will never give it up. They will invest more. It’s a joke. It’s a very dangerous moment now.
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It’s tragedy for Ukraine. But they will run out earlier from the soldiers, number of soldiers, than the Russians. What finally will count is boots on the ground. And the Russians are far stronger, far numerous, more numerous, than Ukrainians.
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That creates a kind of military approach like they have always on security, safety, buffer zone, geopolitical approaches. It’s not, it’s not our culture, it’s a different approach. It’s legitimate to have that because it’s their history. But we have to understand that we cannot beat them as we do just now. It’s impossible. They will not kill their leader. They will never give it up. They will keep together the country and they will defend it. We finance more, they will invest more. If we send more technical equipment, they will produce more. So, don’t misunderstand the Russians.
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Peace. Immediately. Call back Trump. That’s the only way out.
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We should make a deal with the Russians on the new security architecture to provide security, sovereignty for Ukraine, but not membership in NATO.
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So if United States would like to have a peace, next morning there is a peace, because it’s obvious that the Ukrainians, the poor Ukrainians on their own, they are not competitive in this war. So if there is no money and there is no equipment from the West and especially from United States, the war is over.
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But of course, I try to have a rational relationship with the Russians, especially on economy and energy. And my personal point is that without involving the Russians into a security architecture of Europe, we cannot provide a safe life to the citizens of Europe.
...some member state leaders like your president, they had a strategy to crush the Russians somehow. And the strategy was that the Ukrainian soldiers will fight and some member states of NATO will finance this fight by money and by military technical equipment. And this is the way how militarily we can beat the Russians. We Hungarians were very clear at the very first point. This strategy will never work. So this is a bad strategy. And now we have one and a half year of the war and it’s obvious that this is a bad strategy. We have to stop it. We need a new strategy or we should run as soon as we can for peace.
These are talking points Orbán, your beloved trump, his maga ideologues, and to a large extent you (involuntary? russian asset) borrowed from putin's propaganda!
Yeah, yeah, yeah... for the past hundred pages, you criticized the current US administration for not providing enough weapons to Ukraine.What else could you take from this idiot Biden? If he is not able to pursue an effective policy, then at least he should have provided weapons in the required quantity and the required nomenclature. But he couldn't do that either. Bas.tard.
Now, suddenly, you don't need US weapons anymore.
These are talking points Orbán, your beloved trump, his maga ideologues, and to a large extent you (involuntary? russian asset) borrowed from putin's propaganda!What does Trump have to do with this? And where and when did I defend Orbán? ::) ::) ::)
Personally, I don't want to communicate with anyone who writes things like "Fuck her out of the Republican Party!". Or "belongs in the electric chair" or "needs to be liquidated". A person who says such things is not someone you should discuss with, because their ideas are just as bad as those of those who attacked Ukraine.:'( :'( :'(
Zelenskyy taps ousted commander-in-chief as envoy to UK in ‘compromise’ moveWho is Bran? I do not know this word.
https://www.politico.eu/article/valery-zaluzhny-ukraine-uk-ambassador/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/valery-zaluzhny-ukraine-uk-ambassador/)
…. Bran Stoker will have to rethink how politics works…
The EU’s carbon tax may devastate a country it is trying to keep alive: Ukraine::) ::) ::)
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-carbon-tax-devastate-keep-alive-ukraine/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-carbon-tax-devastate-keep-alive-ukraine/)
Speaking like a true friend of putin. Music to his ears.Zero Talent, you are self-critical. ;D ;D ;D
Music for trump and orban ears!
Speaking like a true russian troll!
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Speaking like a true friend of putin. Music to his ears.Zero Talent, you are self-critical. ;D ;D ;D
Music for trump and orban ears!
Speaking like a true russian troll!
🤮
I will write about the lies of Biden and the US Democrats. These bast.ards are shouting in all the media that military aid from the United States is not coming to Ukraine due to the fault of the Republican Party. In fact, this is all a lie.
There are several mechanisms to transfer weapons to Ukraine (if only there is a desire):
1. By directly financing military orders and new weapons production.
2. By signing the Lend-Lease law (it was in force until last year, but the friend of the Russians, Biden, did not supply weapons under this law). So, if that bas.tard Biden wanted to help Ukraine with weapons, he would sign or extend the Lend-Lease and give permission for the supply of weapons under the Lend-Lease. This would mean that the Pentagon would independently begin to supply weapons to Ukraine from warehouses in the United States. These supplies do not require any financing.
But, as we see, the liars Democrats are doing everything to help the Russians occupy Ukraine and not supply weapons to Ukraine in the required quantity and type.
Biden's place in the electric chair! The US Democratic Party must be banned!
Very good tip, Ralf.
Nonsense gets better when you dress it up!
Very good tip, Ralf.
Nonsense gets better when you dress it up!
Yes Wilm, we two German KGB agent parasites know how to promote propaganda.
Yes, we should be in the electric chair for this!
Yes Wilm, we two German KGB agent parasites know how to promote propaganda.You are still far from Merkel and Scholz, or rather, you are definitely not them.
You should see the reflection of a russian asset1. Accusing a person of trolling during a discussion is trolling. That's why you are the troll now.
"We need leaders in the world who are respected and can bring peace. He is one of them! Come back and bring us peace, Mr. President!" Orbán wrote.
+100
In other words, exactly what Trump bragged about: that he will make peace tomorrow by making a deal with putin and giving him what he wants.I don’t remember Trump saying that he would give putin whatever he wants, meaning Ukraine.
P.S.: Involuntary assets are usually called by the derogatory term: "useful idiots."You 100% meet this term. ;D
I gave you the transcript of his entire interview with Tucker Carlson, in one of my previous posts1. Hey guys! What do I have to do with it? The Germans are in a European union with Hungary. I don't see the Germans protesting against such an alliance. The EU does not impose sanctions against Hungary. The United States is in a military alliance with Hungary, and the cowardly Biden does not raise the issue of excluding Hungary from NATO.
Let me remind you that he said:
Peace. Immediately. Call back Trump. That’s the only way out.
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We should make a deal with the Russians
Zaluzhnyi found unfit for further military service before his appointment as ambassador to UK;D ;D ;D
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/9/7445684/index.amp (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/9/7445684/index.amp)
In other words, exactly what Trump bragged about: that he will make peace tomorrow by making a deal with putin and giving him what he wants.I don’t remember Trump saying that he would give putin *whatever he wants, meaning Ukraine.
You write lies and propaganda from Democrats.
....In all the flood and propaganda that you just wrote, I saw only two true words, and these two words characterize you 100%. ;D ;D ;D
useful idiot.
Zero Talent, stop flooding, propaganda and manipulation of facts. I don’t even see the point of commenting on what you are copying here. Learn to write your thoughts and write reasonedly.
;D ;D ;D
acknowledge these facts.Only you argue with the facts in this topic. You are also manipulating facts for your false and propaganda conclusions. You copy snippets of phrases, dialogues, articles here, and then create propaganda. Write more, let US citizens see what Biden’s supporters are like. ;D
acknowledge these facts.Only you argue with the facts in this topic. You are also manipulating facts for your false and propaganda conclusions. You copy snippets of phrases, dialogues, articles here, and then create propaganda. Write more, let US citizens see what Biden’s supporters are like. ;D
I have nothing against facts. I’m just writing that your conclusions are incorrect and false.
??? ::) :'( :'(useful idiot
??? ::) :'( :'(useful idiot
See a doctor immediately!
We cannot beat them (i.e. russians)Zero Talent, why are you so nervous? Take a sedative tablet.
Peace. Immediately.Call back Trump. That’s the only way out.
...
We should make a deal with the Russians.
So if there is no money and there is no equipment from the West and especially from United States, the war is over.
So Orban is working off the Russians’ money.
I don’t care what Orban meant or didn’t mean. I quoted what sounds correct.Of course you did!
Pope says Ukraine should have 'courage of the white flag' of negotiations+100
… another KGB agent…
Convict mobilisation bill to be submitted to Ukraine's parliament next weekThis applies only to those who wish. But it is not a fact that the law will be adopted.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/9/7445744/index.amp (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/9/7445744/index.amp)
Last night, he praised him like this:As a presidential candidate and as a non-official, Trump can say whatever he wants. Now Trump’s main task is to get the maximum number of votes in the elections.
There’s nobody that’s better, smarter or a better leader than Viktor Orban!
He's fantastic! He does a great job.
He's a non-controversial figure because he says: "this is the way it’s gonna be", and that’s the end of it. Right?
He’s the boss.
He's a great leader, a fantastic leader in Europe and all over the world!
The selective editing of conveniently extracted quotes that change meanings is a well-known propaganda technique.This is what you do here. I copied the text from Reuters. The conclusions are correct and truthful. ;D ;D ;D
When anyone but trump is only saying things against Ukraine they are KGB agents.Pope says Ukraine should have 'courage of the white flag' of negotiations+100
… another KGB agent…
Pope says Ukraine should have 'courage of the white flag' of negotiations+100
… another KGB agent…
When anyone but trump is only saying things against Ukraine they are KGB agents.
When trump is praising putin's lap dog, calling him fantastic and a great leader, when he openly admires putin, when he tells putin that he can do "whatever . he wants," trump is just a liar, a politician lying to his base to get their votes.
Right!
Of course, only an "Illuminati" would see the truth behind his lies and be convinced that, in fact, he is anti-putin.
PS. Illuminati = involuntary russian asset =useful idiot
Everyone, except trump, because he is secretly plotting against putin while publicly endorsing him, and his allies...
… from what I have learned from Bram Stocker, everyone in the world is KGB agent…
Boris Johnson flew to Venezuela to hold secret talks with MaduroBoris Johnson is not a KGB agent. He is a friend of Ukraine.
https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-ex-pm-boris-johnson-flew-venezuela-secret-talks-maduro-ukraine-russia/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-ex-pm-boris-johnson-flew-venezuela-secret-talks-maduro-ukraine-russia/)
… what is happening…?! KGB agents are really active this days…
Italy opposes sending NATO troops to Ukraine+100
https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/03/10/italy-opposes-sending-nato-troops-to-ukraine/
… secret KGB personnel being exposed day-by-day…
Canada has approved the transfer of about 80,000 aircraft missiles to Ukraine.
The closer we get to Trump's arrival in the White House, the more help there will be from the EU and other NATO countries.
As I understand it, for the last 2 years, the bas.tard Biden and the cowardly Democrats have been slowing down the transfer of weapons to Ukraine in normal quantities. Now the NATO countries already see that Biden is a political corpse, and they are starting to think and act.
Trump! Crush the Democrats! Crush the Europarasites!
;D ;D ;D
By now I am 100% sure that I am a Russian troll.;D ;D ;D
By now I am 100% sure that I am a Russian troll.;D ;D ;D
You are self-critical!
The closer we get to Trump's arrival in the White House, the more help there will be from the EU and other NATO countries.
You wrote in English that you are a Russian troll.By now I am 100% sure that I am a Russian troll.;D ;D ;D
You are self-critical!
?
You wrote in English that you are a Russian troll.By now I am 100% sure that I am a Russian troll.;D ;D ;D
You are self-critical!
?
You wrote in English that you are a Russian troll.By now I am 100% sure that I am a Russian troll.;D ;D ;D
You are self-critical!
?
Ah, okay, my bad! You are a russian troll.
;D ;D ;DYou wrote in English that you are a Russian troll.By now I am 100% sure that I am a Russian troll.;D ;D ;D
You are self-critical!
?
Ah, okay, my bad!
… really hope that people from EU will not see your posts about them… Biden in your universe should be praised and EU leaders adored… Ukraine is not in good position at all, but you are not doing anything to relax those positions…I'm not a politician, so I don't need to lie. I am honest with myself, so I always write only the truth.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12983807/BORIS-JOHNSON-negronis-Trump-presidency-just-world-needs.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12983807/BORIS-JOHNSON-negronis-Trump-presidency-just-world-needs.html)
BORIS JOHNSON: The global wokerati are trembling so violently you can hear the ice tinkling in their negronis... but a Trump presidency could be just what the world needs.
This article is about why Biden and the Democrats are ass.holes, motherfuckers, turds, asss, shitass and blockheads. An article about why only Trump can restore justice in the world.
"He has a very clear vision that is hard to disagree with. He says the following: first, he will not give a single penny for the Russo-Ukrainian war. That's why the war will end, because it's obvious that Ukraine cannot stand on its own two feet. If the Americans don't give money and weapons along with the Europeans, the war will end. And if the Americans don't give money, then the Europeans won't be able to fund this war alone. And then the war will end."1. It’s good that you started reading Ukrainian news. ;D
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/10/7445822/ (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/03/10/7445822/)
It is all over the news. I used this source for you, so you cannot deny its veracity.Don't bother yourself with such things. I am critical of the news in the Ukrainian media. Moreover, very often they copy news from the world media.
It's a lie. Under President Trump, not a single square meter of Ukraine was occupied.
Orbán is simply reporting his discussion he had 2 days ago with the guy who will offer Ukraine on a silver platter to putin.
::) ::) ::)
He has no reason to lie about it or to contradict his friend trump, to embarass him and lose the support he wanted so badly to secure, with his unofficial visit.
They are perfectly aligned, trump and his maga politicians said the same, your president knows it, as well as every other logical person.
It's interesting that you are now slowly warming up to the idea that trump may not help Ukraine, and you will lose the aid offered by the current administration, being forced to rely solely on Europe's support. Saying that you don't need it is truly foolish...
PS. involuntary russian asset = useful idiotOf course, I apologize, but you wrote this to yourself. ;D ;D ;D
Trump will stop all support for Ukraine, and Putin will win.::) ::) ::) :'( :'( :'(
It's so foolish to want resources destined for Ukraine to be diverted and start new wars against China and Iran.Yes, the main resources should be directed against China. It is only thanks to China that the Russians started the war, continue the war and support their economy. China is the main enemy of the whole world. Russia is just a servant of China.
Only putin's useful idiots would want resources destined to fight putin to be diverted elsewhere.What resources are we talking about? Neither the United States, nor even the EU, have even begun to truly spend their resources on the third world war. What Ukraine received in 2 years is a meager amount close to zero.
This is undeniable.
Resources like the $75 billion of US money already spent helping Ukraine defend itself.Only putin's useful idiots would want resources destined to fight putin to be diverted elsewhere.What resources are we talking about? Neither the United States, nor even the EU, have even begun to truly spend their resources on the third world war. What Ukraine received in 2 years is a meager amount close to zero.
This is undeniable.
So yes, US resources should be directed against China.
I am only interested in cultural and constructive dialogues.
I expected nothing less from fellow KGB agent Merkel. The Germans do not understand that Scholz is leading their country to occupation by Russian orcs.
A Russian Drone Spotted A Ukrainian Patriot Air-Defense Crew Convoying Near The Front Line. Soon, A Russian Hypersonic Missile Streaked Down.The rhetoric of the text is joyful, obviously Forbes is happy for the Russians.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/03/09/a-russian-drone-spotted-a-ukrainian-patriot-air-defense-crew-convoying-near-the-front-line-soon-a-russian-hypersonic-missile-streaked-down/?sh=270e41473514 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/03/09/a-russian-drone-spotted-a-ukrainian-patriot-air-defense-crew-convoying-near-the-front-line-soon-a-russian-hypersonic-missile-streaked-down/?sh=270e41473514)
"Well, the milkman's a spy, and the grocer keeps on following me,Yes, you Germans know all this very well and are familiar. I think that’s how it was in the GDR. It is very possible that the GDR will soon return to Germany again along with the KGB and Stasi. Then you will sing this song again.
And the woman next door's an undercover for the K.G.B.,
"Well, the milkman's a spy, and the grocer keeps on following me,Yes, you Germans know all this very well and are familiar. I think that’s how it was in the GDR. It is very possible that the GDR will soon return to Germany again along with the KGB and Stasi. Then you will sing this song again.
And the woman next door's an undercover for the K.G.B.,
Russia Claims Advances In Luhansk; Ukraine Says Situation 'Difficult'The Russians will not be able to reach Pokrovsk.
https://www.rferl.org/amp/ukraine-bakhmut-western-support/32272184.html (https://www.rferl.org/amp/ukraine-bakhmut-western-support/32272184.html)
… it seems that Pokrovsk is a new prey for Russians…
You probably didn’t live in the GDR. When you live there, I think this song will be relevant to you."Well, the milkman's a spy, and the grocer keeps on following me,Yes, you Germans know all this very well and are familiar. I think that’s how it was in the GDR. It is very possible that the GDR will soon return to Germany again along with the KGB and Stasi. Then you will sing this song again.
And the woman next door's an undercover for the K.G.B.,
No, I don't know that and I've lived here for a while.
The Kinks are a British band, by the way.
You probably didn’t live in the GDR. When you live there, I think this song will be relevant to you."Well, the milkman's a spy, and the grocer keeps on following me,Yes, you Germans know all this very well and are familiar. I think that’s how it was in the GDR. It is very possible that the GDR will soon return to Germany again along with the KGB and Stasi. Then you will sing this song again.
And the woman next door's an undercover for the K.G.B.,
No, I don't know that and I've lived here for a while.
The Kinks are a British band, by the way.
The song is about people who see KGB agents where there aren't any.I understand what the song is about. But it will be understood differently by those who live in Russian-occupied territories or in the GDR.
"Therefore, I support the idea that the United States should not help Ukraine with weapons."Yesterday you called yourself a Russian troll. There is no need to throw your nickname onto me now. ;D
Have you been drinking?
For hundreds of pages you have been texting us that Biden belongs in prison and in the electric chair because, according to you, he doesn't support Ukraine, and now you say that you think that's good?
You are a Russian troll!
… why UA tries to attack border posts…?! Those PR attacks are suicidal from the start… Bram Stocker, what you think aboit that…?!1. Who is Bram?
… cluster bomb rain over Ukrainian helicopters…There is no need to post Russian propaganda from Russian-language telegram channels here.
https://t.me/vorposte/53516
… why UA tries to attack border posts…?! Those PR attacks are suicidal from the start… Bram Stocker, what you think aboit that…?!1. Who is Bram?
2. What kind of attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces are we talking about?
… so ORCS are attacking ORCS…?! Is that some other kind or tribe of Russian orcs…?!They are called good Russians, but there are very few of them. At this stage, these Russians are helping to eliminate Russian soldiers and other Russians who are defending the Russian Empire. They also carry out the task of pulling the Russian army away from the front line and may create a springboard for encircling Russian orcs in eastern Ukraine through Russian territory. In any case, there should be a war on Russian territory too.
… ok, we have learned that good Orcs exist… but, accordingly how good this action ended, that tribe of Orcs is in problem… and you are asking that bad Orc empire to be disassementeled because you are now in problem with them…?!1. Not all Russian orcs, but only the majority, 80-90 percent.
Flight in the trunk" for €340,000: a minibus with 34 people in the cargo compartment tried to enter Romania
https://unn.ua/en/amp/flight-in-the-trunk-for-euro340000-a-minibus-with-34-people-in-the-cargo-compartment-tried-to-enter-romania
… in following videos, officers explain rights to detained men…
https://twitter.com/tweetsNV/status/1766092576451407880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1766092576451407880%7Ctwgr%5E92bfbdab99bf14c2d4b2a5a0dddf9e250278af24%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-4091605054133633922.ampproject.net%2F2402231941000%2Fframe.html
who will voluntarily go back home when treated like this…?’How are they being treated wrong? These cowards stuffed themselves into the car. ;D ;D ;D
This week the fascist Russian empire will re-elect the Hitler of the 21st century, putin. I am sure that 90% of genetic Russian slaves and orcs will vote for putin. The remaining 10% of slaves do not organize any protests.… after everything happened, will you again vote for a same predsident of your country….?! Or will rethink twice…?!
As mentioned many times before, that Republican Party doesn't exist anymore. It has been hijacked by trump's maga cult.
For reference, the USSR was destroyed when the US President was a Republican.
EU! Return Ukrainian refugees to Ukraine!
Of course, I understand that the European Union is happy that the Russians are waging war in Ukraine and thanks to this, the EU can solve its demographic problems and improve the economy through the labor of Ukrainians. This explains the supply of small quantities of weapons to Ukraine and trade with Russian EU countries.
… and it is impossible to conquer Russia, how you have imagined… except if you don’t wont tear Earth on half… in matter of seconds…your nation will suffer until this war ends… more and more people in the world are aware that you need to talk and stop the war asap…
… and it is impossible to conquer Russia, how you have imagined… except if you don’t wont tear Earth on half… in matter of seconds…your nation will suffer until this war ends… more and more people in the world are aware that you need to talk and stop the war asap…1. Russia does not need to be conquered because it is an empire. Russia can be defeated militarily, but not for the purpose of occupying its territories. More precisely, it would be correct to send troops into the territory of this empire, but only for the safety of the Russians themselves. The main goal is the disintegration of the Russian empire into national countries. A lot of oppressed peoples are under the yoke of the Russians.
Beautiful "democratic" words. And the result is the same as during the Second World War.EU! Return Ukrainian refugees to Ukraine!They are free to return to the Ukraine whenever they want.
Cheap Russian gas did more for hour economy than a few Ukrainians, most of whom don't work, anyway, could ever contribute.It's a lie. Most Ukrainians work in EU countries. Ukrainians even work in Germany, but illegally. Perhaps some Ukrainians do not work in Germany, but this is only because the Germans pay large benefits and do not pursue a policy of encouraging people to work. And many Germans themselves are on welfare and do not want to work. This is German policy, stupid policy.
We are still supporting the Ukraine in its fight against the Russian invaders, because it is the right thing to do.
People in the world must understand that russia must be made to withdraw within its internationally recognized borders.Only friends of Russians - democrats - say this. This is a stupid and cowardly policy. An empire cannot exist within its own borders, this is an axiom. Any empire rests only on wars, murders and occupation.
… and it is impossible to conquer Russia, how you have imagined… except if you don’t wont tear Earth on half… in matter of seconds…your nation will suffer until this war ends… more and more people in the world are aware that you need to talk and stop the war asap…1. Russia does not need to be conquered because it is an empire. Russia can be defeated militarily, but not for the purpose of occupying its territories. More precisely, it would be correct to send troops into the territory of this empire, but only for the safety of the Russians themselves. The main goal is the disintegration of the Russian empire into national countries. A lot of oppressed peoples are under the yoke of the Russians.
2. Ukraine cannot stop the war. Ukraine repels attacks and de-occupies its territories. The war can only be stopped by the Russian orcs if they withdraw their troops from the territory of Ukraine.
… and it is impossible to conquer Russia, how you have imagined… except if you don’t wont tear Earth on half… in matter of seconds…your nation will suffer until this war ends… more and more people in the world are aware that you need to talk and stop the war asap…1. Russia does not need to be conquered because it is an empire. Russia can be defeated militarily, but not for the purpose of occupying its territories. More precisely, it would be correct to send troops into the territory of this empire, but only for the safety of the Russians themselves. The main goal is the disintegration of the Russian empire into national countries. A lot of oppressed peoples are under the yoke of the Russians.
2. Ukraine cannot stop the war. Ukraine repels attacks and de-occupies its territories. The war can only be stopped by the Russian orcs if they withdraw their troops from the territory of Ukraine.
… and it is impossible to conquer Russia, how you have imagined… except if you don’t wont tear Earth on half… in matter of seconds…your nation will suffer until this war ends… more and more people in the world are aware that you need to talk and stop the war asap…
What are you talking about?
Nobody wants to conquer russia.
People in the world must understand that russia must be made to withdraw within its internationally recognized borders.
But russia is winning the information war, including with the help of its useful idiots.
… and it is impossible to conquer Russia, how you have imagined… except if you don’t wont tear Earth on half… in matter of seconds…your nation will suffer until this war ends… more and more people in the world are aware that you need to talk and stop the war asap…1. Russia does not need to be conquered because it is an empire. Russia can be defeated militarily, but not for the purpose of occupying its territories. More precisely, it would be correct to send troops into the territory of this empire, but only for the safety of the Russians themselves. The main goal is the disintegration of the Russian empire into national countries. A lot of oppressed peoples are under the yoke of the Russians.
2. Ukraine cannot stop the war. Ukraine repels attacks and de-occupies its territories. The war can only be stopped by the Russian orcs if they withdraw their troops from the territory of Ukraine.
… @ZeroTalent, THIS!
This must include destroying military and logistic objectives inside the aggressor's territory.+100
The freedom of its imperial colonies is a different matter and should not be confused with the defense against the invasion and occupation of an internationally recognized independent and sovereign country.It's all the same. We need a policy aimed at eliminating fascism in russia. After the liquidation of fascism, this Russian empire itself will collapse. The Russian empire survives only thanks to fascism.
Ukrainian film 20 Days in Mariupol has won an Oscar
Except that there are no Republicans left. The GOP is hijacked by trump's maga cult. He even appointed his daughter as the chairwoman of the new maga party. Nepotism is back.
But only Republicans can organize this.
The Republican Party has always had dumb presidents. Trump is no worse than the previous ones and no dumber than them.
;D ;D ;D
Reagan was not dumb at all.You should remember yet the 19th century. ;D
… does your theory works in case of Falklands islands…?!This must include destroying military and logistic objectives inside the aggressor's territory.+100
;D ;D ;D
This is also possible. Keep Russian orcs under constant fire control! ;D
But only Republicans can organize this.The freedom of its imperial colonies is a different matter and should not be confused with the defense against the invasion and occupation of an internationally recognized independent and sovereign country.It's all the same. We need a policy aimed at eliminating fascism in russia. After the liquidation of fascism, this Russian empire itself will collapse. The Russian empire survives only thanks to fascism.
Ukrainian film 20 Days in Mariupol has won an Oscar
Not sure if it is available outside the US, but US users can watch it free on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/gvAyykRvPBo.
A must watch...
Ukrainian film 20 Days in Mariupol has won an Oscar
Not sure if it is available outside the US, but US users can watch it free on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/gvAyykRvPBo.
A must watch...
… I am not sure that involvement of politics in filmogrphy deserves Oscars… will se that when something filmed about Gaza strip does the same…
We need a policy aimed at eliminating fascism in russia. After the liquidation of fascism, this Russian empire itself will collapse. The Russian empire survives only thanks to fascism.
… documentary about tens of thousands Palestinians killed in Gaza…?! Please send me a link…You clearly didn't watch the movie, but that doesn't stop you from labeling something you know nothing about.
… documentary about tens of thousands Palestinians killed in Gaza…?! Please send me a link…
… documentary about tens of thousands Palestinians killed in Gaza…?! Please send me a link…
Both are certainly terrible.
But if you're suggesting that the events in Ukraine can in any way be compared to the Gaza Strip, then you've just won the competition for unqualified comments against Stoker.
… and it is impossible to conquer Russia, how you have imagined… except if you don’t wont tear Earth on half… in matter of seconds…your nation will suffer until this war ends… more and more people in the world are aware that you need to talk and stop the war asap…
As for Reagan, he was also rather dull and did poorly in school and college.
… documentary about tens of thousands Palestinians killed in Gaza…?! Please send me a link…
Both are certainly terrible.
But if you're suggesting that the events in Ukraine can in any way be compared to the Gaza Strip, then you've just won the competition for unqualified comments against Stoker.
… you DO understand what my point was…
… and thanks for unprovoked qualification…… documentary about tens of thousands Palestinians killed in Gaza…?! Please send me a link…
Both are certainly terrible.
But if you're suggesting that the events in Ukraine can in any way be compared to the Gaza Strip, then you've just won the competition for unqualified comments against Stoker.
… you DO understand what my point was…
Not really.
… and thanks for unprovoked qualification…… documentary about tens of thousands Palestinians killed in Gaza…?! Please send me a link…
Both are certainly terrible.
But if you're suggesting that the events in Ukraine can in any way be compared to the Gaza Strip, then you've just won the competition for unqualified comments against Stoker.
… you DO understand what my point was…
Not really.
An indicator of one's intelligence is the quality of their humor.Well then, the President of Ukraine is actually a genius! He is a professional comedian. ;D ;D ;D
Reagan told better jokes than the former/future moron-in-chief, who cannot rise above 10-year-old name-calling combined with incoherent rants and mockery of one's appearance.
Not necessarily a genius, but proving my point. He is more intelligent than Trump—the moron whose best "jokes" are name-calling like a 10-year-old and mocking people's appearances, while being totally incapable of self-deprecation.An indicator of one's intelligence is the quality of their humor.Well then, the President of Ukraine is actually a genius! He is a professional comedian. ;D ;D ;D
Reagan told better jokes than the former/future moron-in-chief, who cannot rise above 10-year-old name-calling combined with incoherent rants and mockery of one's appearance.
… whatever they( Orcs, UA, new good Orcs…) are doing on border with Russia, this will bring more and more deaths… someone is looking for extreme escalation during following days… there will be more civilian casulties, like those children last night… PR war campaigns are activated…There is no need to make claims against Ukraine. Present your claims to the Russian orcs, the Russian empire and putin.
Let's appoint Zelensky as President of the United States. ;DNot necessarily a genius, but proving my point. He is more intelligent than Trump—the moron whose best "jokes" are name-calling like a 10-year-old and mocking people's appearances, while being totally incapable of self-deprecation.An indicator of one's intelligence is the quality of their humor.Well then, the President of Ukraine is actually a genius! He is a professional comedian. ;D ;D ;D
Reagan told better jokes than the former/future moron-in-chief, who cannot rise above 10-year-old name-calling combined with incoherent rants and mockery of one's appearance.
And your president is far braver and more courageous than that snowflake who is constantly whining and ranting about being persecuted.
Shown here tooUkrainian film 20 Days in Mariupol has won an Oscar
Not sure if it is available outside the US, but US users can watch it free on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/gvAyykRvPBo. (https://youtu.be/gvAyykRvPBo.)
A must watch...
;D ;D ;DYou think it's funny than people are dying, that's totally sick!
Elimination of armored personnel carriers and Russian infantry. Avdiivka, Ukraine.
https://t.me/ssternenko/26315 (https://t.me/ssternenko/26315)
You think it's funny than people are dying8) 8) 8)
You think it's funny than people are dying8) 8) 8)
Russian orcs are not people.
;D ;D ;DYou think it's funny than people are dying, that's totally sick!
Elimination of armored personnel carriers and Russian infantry. Avdiivka, Ukraine.
https://t.me/ssternenko/26315 (https://t.me/ssternenko/26315)
At least 80-90% of Russians support the killing of civilians and the occupation of the territories of other countries.The more fanatical among the Russians will probably say the same thing about Ukrainians.You think it's funny than people are dying8) 8) 8)
Russian orcs are not people.
Therefore, Russian orcs will occupy Germany in 3-5 days. They are preparing for this. When you see a human instead of an orc, this is the result of Russian propaganda.I agree 100%!;D ;D ;DYou think it's funny than people are dying, that's totally sick!
Elimination of armored personnel carriers and Russian infantry. Avdiivka, Ukraine.
https://t.me/ssternenko/26315 (https://t.me/ssternenko/26315)
… you really enjoy in that…?!
… you really enjoy in that…?!These are open sources of information. There is a war going on, everyone who is against the Russians likes the successes of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. For me there is no difference between a Russian orc, a Russian tank, a Russian plane and other Russian military objects. If you follow the links I provided (in the telegram system), you will see a lot of approving likes and approving comments there.
Therefore, Russian orcs will occupy Germany in 3-5 days. They are preparing for this. When you see a human instead of an orc, this is the result of Russian propaganda.I agree 100%!;D ;D ;DYou think it's funny than people are dying, that's totally sick!
Elimination of armored personnel carriers and Russian infantry. Avdiivka, Ukraine.
https://t.me/ssternenko/26315 (https://t.me/ssternenko/26315)
… you really enjoy in that…?!
… you really enjoy in that…?!These are open sources of information. There is a war going on, everyone who is against the Russians likes the successes of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. For me there is no difference between a Russian orc, a Russian tank, a Russian plane and other Russian military objects. If you follow the links I provided (in the telegram system), you will see a lot of approving likes and approving comments there.
How can you not rejoice at the successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
RalfLiebhold, doctor, I already told you, go back to your patients in your clinic. ;D
… you really enjoy in that…?!
Do you enjoy what the Russians are doing in Ukraine? I haven't read a single word from you that criticizes Russia's actions.
Stoker to post videos of people being hit in head with dronesYou have a wild imagination; my links usually don’t contain such videos.
… oh yes, you did it… but there is someone who have flagged it… that video was again with smileys… you are helpping me to know what are you being able to do in denial… if you are sincerly regretting doing it, then it is ok and I forgive you…Stoker to post videos of people being hit in head with dronesYou have a wild imagination; my links usually don’t contain such videos.
;D ;D ;D
Children, women and the mentally ill are not recommended to know anything about the war. I recommend that you do not read this topic.
RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, MARCH 15, 2024.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-15-2024 (https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-15-2024)
A large analytical article about the plans of Russian Na.zis in Ukraine and EU countries. I recommend everyone to study it
But you don’t need to use everything written in the article to politically support Biden.RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, MARCH 15, 2024.Yes, I also recommend that you study it. After you finish studying it, tell you rmaga friends to release the aid they are still blocking in the US Congress.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-15-2024 (https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-15-2024)
A large analytical article about the plans of Russian Na.zis in Ukraine and EU countries. I recommend everyone to study it
Europe alone cannot, however, make up for the lack of US aid as the US has a much stronger and larger military capacity, as ISW has previously assessed.[11] The Washington Post reported on March 15 that a senior US official stated that there is no “bright” future for Ukraine if the US does not pass the supplemental aid package for Ukraine.
Once you finish studying it, you should realize how much of an involuntary russian asset you have become when making stupid claims like this:But you don’t need to use everything written in the article to politically support Biden.RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, MARCH 15, 2024.Yes, I also recommend that you study it. After you finish studying it, tell you rmaga friends to release the aid they are still blocking in the US Congress.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-15-2024 (https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-15-2024)
A large analytical article about the plans of Russian Na.zis in Ukraine and EU countries. I recommend everyone to study it
Europe alone cannot, however, make up for the lack of US aid as the US has a much stronger and larger military capacity, as ISW has previously assessed.[11] The Washington Post reported on March 15 that a senior US official stated that there is no “bright” future for Ukraine if the US does not pass the supplemental aid package for Ukraine.
This article is for the general reader. Other experts will consider some of the statements very controversial and incorrect. You just quoted a controversial statement.
But, I think the purpose of this article is rhetoric, of course Ukraine needs help from many countries and the more help, the better.
In the aid that the Republicans are blocking, the total amount of weapons is $5-6 billion, this is for reference.
As for the EU and the Europarasites, they do what Biden and the Democrats tell them to do. And they tell them not to help Ukraine much.
I think when Trump becomes president, EU assistance will only increase. And the closer to the elections, the more clear it is that Trump will be president, the more help Ukraine will receive. ;D ;D ;D
So yes, US resources should be directed against China. EU resources should be directed against the Russians.
Three things you can look at forever:
1. Water.
2. Fire.
3. Elimination of Russian orcs. ;D
Avdiivka, Ukraine. Extended version of the elimination of Russian orcs. 8) 8) 8)
https://t.me/ssternenko/26338 (https://t.me/ssternenko/26338)
Stoker to post videos of people being hit in head with drones, than I don’t know what to say…In fact, drones fly into the ass of Russian orcs. Here's video evidence
… it’s obvious, you do enjoy…+100
Polish Farmers Block Key Road Into Germany
https://www.voanews.com/amp/polish-farmers-block-key-road-into-germany-/7501764.html (https://www.voanews.com/amp/polish-farmers-block-key-road-into-germany-/7501764.html)
After processing 34.26% of protocols, the Russian Central Election Commission announced that putin won 87.5% votes.
As I said, 90% of Russians are Na.zis, orcs and genetic slaves.
… are that Orcs, too…?! Or someone can be deORCed when leaves Russia…?!Most Russians (90%) are genetic slaves, orcs and Na.zis. Wherever these Russians live.
Berlin, Germany. Polling station for Russians to vote for putin. The Germans are helping putin get as many votes as possible and increase voter turnout. The Germans are also helping to make putin’s elections legitimate.
Support for the Na.zis = Nazism.
(https://static.dw.com/image/68597605_1004.webp)
Yulia Navalnaya organized these queues, or rather called for them, in front of polling stations all over Europe to vote not for Putin but for the opposition and to set an example. These pictures can be seen in all European countries, so they have nothing to do with Germany in particular.:'( :'( :'(
… to me, they look like ordinary people… I’m pretty sure that results from that polling station will not be in Putins favor… so definetely deOrcs do exist, or theyhave changed their shape just to vote… I think we should find example of real Orcs in Russia…:)1. Criminals who are put on the electric chair also look like ordinary people. ;D ;D ;D
Yulia Navalnaya organized these queues, or rather called for them, in front of polling stations all over Europe to vote not for Putin but for the opposition and to set an example. These pictures can be seen in all European countries, so they have nothing to do with Germany in particular.:'( :'( :'(
1. Photo of Berlin? Photo of Berlin.
2. Do you know who all those genetic slaves voted for?
3. "Yulia Navalnaya"? - :o :o :'( :'( :'( :'( ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I have not yet seen photos of Russians at polling stations in other EU countries. So far, all media outlets are showing photos from Germany. That’s why I wrote to you that there is no need to refer to other EU countries and pan-European politics.It's quite remarkable when you don't understand your own content.Yulia Navalnaya organized these queues, or rather called for them, in front of polling stations all over Europe to vote not for Putin but for the opposition and to set an example. These pictures can be seen in all European countries, so they have nothing to do with Germany in particular.:'( :'( :'(
1. Photo of Berlin? Photo of Berlin.
2. Do you know who all those genetic slaves voted for?
3. "Yulia Navalnaya"? - :o :o :'( :'( :'( :'( ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Of course the photo is from Berlin.
However, your conclusions about Germany not only lack facts - they are simply brazen lies. Especially since the German government does not recognize the election result.
I have not yet seen photos of Russians at polling stations in other EU countries.
Yep, great EU! They helped putin hold elections in both russia and the EU.
I have not yet seen photos of Russians at polling stations in other EU countries.
Then you'd better open your eyes before you go on spreading lies.
RalfLiebhold, I don’t write lies, I write only the truth in this topic, mark my words. >:(
In the photo we see crowds of Russian genetic slaves who want to vote for putin.
Some 400 to 500 people queued at the Russian embassy in Brussels on Sunday to vote in Russia’s presidential election, most of them participating in the “Noon Against Putin” protest action called by opposition groups.;D ;D ;D
I have already written that in the EU there are 10% of Russians who are against putin.
Berlin, Germany. Polling station for Russians to vote for putin. The Germans are helping putin get as many votes as possible and increase voter turnout. The Germans are also helping to make putin’s elections legitimate.
Support for the Na.zis = Nazism.
(https://static.dw.com/image/68597605_1004.webp)
… and it is impossible to conquer Russia, how you have imagined… except if you don’t wont tear Earth on half… in matter of seconds…your nation will suffer until this war ends… more and more people in the world are aware that you need to talk and stop the war asap…
… to me, they look like ordinary people… I’m pretty sure that results from that polling station will not be in Putins favor… so definetely deOrcs do exist, or theyhave changed their shape just to vote… I think we should find example of real Orcs in Russia…:)1. Criminals who are put on the electric chair also look like ordinary people. ;D ;D ;D
2. I would like to see the results of the vote in Berlin. ;D
But in any case, this policy of Germany and the EU is aimed at legitimizing the Russian election of the main Nazi of the 21st century.
Europarasites!!!!
The results of the post-election survey conducted by the independent Russian project "Vote Abroad" are available late this evening. According to the results, 31% of the 2,533 voters surveyed in Bonn voted for Putin and a further 28% for Davankov. The candidate of the Communist Party, Nikolai Kharitonov, received only one percent. Nobody voted for the fourth candidate, the chairman of the "Liberal Democratic Party of Russia" Leonid Sluzki. A quarter of respondents did not want to provide any information to "Vote Abroad". And 15 percent damaged their ballot paper - in protest.30%+25% = 55% for putin.
30%+25% = 55% for putin.
There is no trust in these Russian polls.
All Russians are supporters of the empire and rashists.
Also, please note that except for Athens, putin received less than 50% of the vote everywhere else where voting took place outside russian-controlled territories.Did you read it in a tabloid newspaper? ::)
You're not only a bad liar, you're also a methematic dunce.1. I studied mathematics professionally.
What?The results of the post-election survey conducted by the independent Russian project "Vote Abroad" are available late this evening. According to the results, 31% of the 2,533 voters surveyed in Bonn voted for Putin and a further 28% for Davankov. The candidate of the Communist Party, Nikolai Kharitonov, received only one percent. Nobody voted for the fourth candidate, the chairman of the "Liberal Democratic Party of Russia" Leonid Sluzki. A quarter of respondents did not want to provide any information to "Vote Abroad". And 15 percent damaged their ballot paper - in protest.30%+25% = 55% for putin.
There is no trust in these Russian polls.
All Russians are supporters of the empire and rashists.
You're not only a bad liar, you're also a methematic dunce.
1. I studied mathematics professionally.
… you are right… there is no reason to stop killing and depopulation of Ukraine… just go further, until there are any proof of life… and we will continue to send weapons and good wishes…… and it is impossible to conquer Russia, how you have imagined… except if you don’t wont tear Earth on half… in matter of seconds…your nation will suffer until this war ends… more and more people in the world are aware that you need to talk and stop the war asap…
Today, in my view, there was clear proof of what Putin thinks of "talking":
Putin said to his people today after his "election": "...together hand in hand we will move forward - not with words, but with deeds."
Today, on the day when his "election opponent" praises Putin and makes it clear that Crimea belongs to Russia.
In your opinion, what and how should be "talked" about under these conditions?
There's nothing to talk about! Putin doesn't want to talk. He wants power! He wants victory! He wants to go down in the history books!
And there - in the history books - he will make his mark. But not in the way he imagines.
So even based on official numbers, putin only got ~54% of the Russian residents in Germany, far from the overall average.1. There is no opposition in russia (because Russian slaves do not need it) and there are no presidential candidates who are against the empire. All the candidates you showed in your table are against Ukraine and for killing Ukrainians.
1. Whose Crimea? (the correct answer should be Crimea is Ukraine).
You were proven wrong again, with data: despite your initial claim, putin is not supported by a large majority of russians living abroad, inucluding those living in Germany.You provided links to the results of some surveys. Polls are not actual voting or actual vote counting.
You were proven wrong again, with data: despite your initial claim, putin is not supported by a large majority of russians living abroad, inucluding those living in Germany.You provided links to the results of some surveys. Polls are not actual voting or actual vote counting.
......:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
many Russians living abroad may be afraid to admit their true vote in front of strangers.
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+100Zero Talent useful idiot and troll
… those are shapeshifting Orcs or infiltrated KGB agents…......:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
many Russians living abroad may be afraid to admit their true vote in front of strangers.
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Russian genetic slaves. This is the correct way to write and speak. The slave does not know how to protest and always obeys the will of his master.
I don’t even see the point in commenting on the rest of your flooding and trolling.
And of course, Russians who live in the EU will not say what they are for putin, because they are afraid to say so, this could lead to their deportation. Therefore, when a Russian in the EU says that he is against putin, he is lying. ;D ;D ;D
… those are shapeshifting Orcs or infiltrated KGB agents…+100
And of course, Russians who live in the EU will not say what they are for putin, because they are afraid to say so, this could lead to their deportation.
And of course, Russians who live in the EU will not say what they are for putin, because they are afraid to say so, this could lead to their deportation.
Your lack of logic is glaring when you fail to understand that Germany is a democracy. Nobody is breaking any laws when they admire trump or his buddy putin. Nobody can be deported for that.
This is exactly why 10% of the voters in Berlin and 31% of voters in Bonn openly admitted to voting for putin, in front of strangers. They know they have nothing to fear.
The opposite is valid for those who dare to speak against putin and you know it. Not because of the German authorities, but because of the long arm of the KGB. They know it and you know that too.
But you fail to put facts together and formulate a coherent conclusion.
Your degree involving math must have been obtained from a fake university, from a scam like: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University,
because it's impossible for someone with a real math degree to refuse to ackowledge facts and fail so miserably at logic.
The opposite is valid for those who dare to speak against putin and you know it. Not because of the German authorities, but because of the long arm of the KGB. They know it and you know that too.You have now written 100% delirium. The KGB can still liquidate one person, but the KGB cannot liquidate tens and hundreds of thousands of people.
Furthermore, he insists that in the USA, for example, the same autocratic means should be used against the current government majority (electric chair, prison, etc.).1. I quote from all your flood only that which deserves at least some attention.
Furthermore, he insists that in the USA, for example, the same autocratic means should be used against the current government majority (electric chair, prison, etc.).1. I quote from all your flood only that which deserves at least some attention.
2. US Democrats have been fabricating many court cases against Trump for 3 years now. In essence, they are harassing Trump.
Politicians like Merkel and Biden must answer for their criminal policies. In democratic countries, it is normal for a criminal to be brought to justice and appears in court.
The KGB can still liquidate one person,
Of course, this is how the KGB works.You stubbornly continue to write delirium and justify all Russians.
Many of those Russian voters are certainly afraid that they will be that person if they are caught voting against putin, and many may claim the opposite.
That's just normal behaviour for everyone who knows how dictatorships work.
Your lack of logic and basic understanding of facts is striking for someone who claims to have studied mathematics.Of course, this is how the KGB works.You stubbornly continue to write delirium and justify all Russians.
Many of those Russian voters are certainly afraid that they will be that person if they are caught voting against putin, and many may claim the opposite.
That's just normal behaviour for everyone who knows how dictatorships work.
… don’t be naive… :) … but, great cgi trailer…Are you talking about Macron? ;D
… don’t be naive… :) … but, great cgi trailer…Are you talking about Macron? ;D
He will soon put on a bicorne hat himself and start posing. Judging by his rhetoric.
But this is normal, the main thing is that his words are confirmed by his actions.
There may be many factors here:Are they, though?… don’t be naive… :) … but, great cgi trailer…Are you talking about Macron? ;D
He will soon put on a bicorne hat himself and start posing. Judging by his rhetoric.
But this is normal, the main thing is that his words are confirmed by his actions.
How come France comes in at place fourteen in the list of bilateral support (military and financial) then? Right between Finland and the Czech Republic.
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/ (https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/)
In any case, Macron looks belligerent. ;D like on a picture ;D ;D ;D
Are they, though?… don’t be naive… :) … but, great cgi trailer…Are you talking about Macron? ;D
He will soon put on a bicorne hat himself and start posing. Judging by his rhetoric.
But this is normal, the main thing is that his words are confirmed by his actions.
How come France comes in at place fourteen in the list of bilateral support (military and financial) then? Right between Finland and the Czech Republic.
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/ (https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/)
But Macron’s desire to send troops to Ukraine is a very good desire. These troops are not necessarily needed on the front line; there are many other areas where they will replace the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which will allow the Ukrainian Armed Forces troops to be transferred to the front line.
Are they, though?… don’t be naive… :) … but, great cgi trailer…Are you talking about Macron? ;D
He will soon put on a bicorne hat himself and start posing. Judging by his rhetoric.
But this is normal, the main thing is that his words are confirmed by his actions.
How come France comes in at place fourteen in the list of bilateral support (military and financial) then? Right between Finland and the Czech Republic.
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/ (https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/)
But Macron’s desire to send troops to Ukraine is a very good desire. These troops are not necessarily needed on the front line; there are many other areas where they will replace the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which will allow the Ukrainian Armed Forces troops to be transferred to the front line.
Wouldn't it be great if, first of all, those who demand support from outside would themselves support their own people?
You could do something yourself instead of making demands on others. Go out and support your people. Go help where help is needed and relieve your fellow human beings!
… how can you protect yourself when this comes to you…?! Stop this war asap!The war will stop only in two cases:
https://t.me/vorposte/53842
Im Krieg gegen Russland fehlen Soldaten: Union fordert Bürgergeld-Stopp für wehrpflichtige UkrainerI already wrote that Europarasites should return all Ukrainians to Ukraine. These are not only men, but also women and children.
https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/buergergeld-stopp-fuer-wehrpflichtige-ukrainer-so-will-die-cducsu-soldaten-an-die-front-draengen-li.2197570 (https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/buergergeld-stopp-fuer-wehrpflichtige-ukrainer-so-will-die-cducsu-soldaten-an-die-front-draengen-li.2197570)
Ukraine does not expect anything good from Europarasites or from US democrats. But, I react to Macron’s statements.In any case, Macron looks belligerent. ;D like on a picture ;D ;D ;D
Yeah, sure, the look is what is important. Don't hold your breath for French soldiers or French aviation actually arriving in the Ukraine.
… how you can say that nothing depends of Ukraine…?! so, you are aware that Ukraine is just a proxy in war with Russia…? Your people are dying and infrastructure of Ukraine is being destroyed… demography massacred both by weapons and other factors…… how can you protect yourself when this comes to you…?! Stop this war asap!The war will stop only in two cases:
https://t.me/vorposte/53842
1. Russian Na.zis will occupy the entire EU.
2. The Ukrainian Armed Forces and democratic countries will liquidate the Russian empire.
Nothing depends on Ukraine regarding stopping the war.
The successful hits of the Russians are the result of the cowardly policies of the US Democrats, Biden and the Europarasites.
Ukraine has no aviation and no medium-long-range missiles. Also, Ukraine has very little good air defense.
so, you are aware that Ukraine is just a proxy in war with Russia…?
… like I said, killing will bring more killings…
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240322-gunmen-in-combat-fatigues-open-fire-at-moscow-concert-hall (https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240322-gunmen-in-combat-fatigues-open-fire-at-moscow-concert-hall)
… have I offended you, when you talk like that, Zero Talent…?!
… like I said, killing will bring more killings…
… how can you protect yourself when this comes to you…?! Stop this war asap!The war will stop only in two cases:
https://t.me/vorposte/53842
1. Russian Na.zis will occupy the entire EU.
2. The Ukrainian Armed Forces and democratic countries will liquidate the Russian empire.
Nothing depends on Ukraine regarding stopping the war.
The successful hits of the Russians are the result of the cowardly policies of the US Democrats, Biden and the Europarasites.
Ukraine has no aviation and no medium-long-range missiles. Also, Ukraine has very little good air defense.
so, you are aware that Ukraine is just a proxy in war with Russia…?
… like I said, killing will bring more killings…
Yes, that's right. And that is precisely the reason why Putin must stop his attack on Ukraine immediately and order his soldiers home!!!
… like I said, killing will bring more killings…
Yes, that's right. And that is precisely the reason why Putin must stop his attack on Ukraine immediately and order his soldiers home!!!
… do you approve what happened last night…?!
No, definitely not! Any kind of terrorism is terrible! And cowardly! When innocent civilians are killed, there can be no one who thinks that's good!If we talk about Russian orcs, no matter how cynical it may sound, the fewer Russians there are, the fewer of these Russians will come to kill in Ukraine.
I think it's bad when Russian civilians are killed in a barbaric attack.And who is happy? Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers do their job in war. Any destroyed target is a success.
The war in Ukraine has nothing to do with it.
Every life is precious, I despise anyone who is happy about that. Only scum can be happy about something like that.
Some people are asking what is needed to end the war. A Ukrainian military expert answered this question.
Military analyst, Colonel Petro Chernyk, is convinced that for the first time in a thousand years, Ukrainians have received numerous support from the world community.
Chernyk identified five factors for Ukraine's victory.
First, Russia must disintegrate into one and a half dozen independent states.
Secondly, these entities should not have nuclear weapons.
Thirdly, the conditional Russian republic with its center in Moscow must be cut off from free Siberian resources (oil, gas, timber, gold). After all, approximately 40% of material resources and fresh water are located in these territories.
Fourthly, it is necessary to carry out complex ideological stagnation in the republics. This requires at least one generation.
And the fifth factor, Ukraine must become a full member of NATO.
https://youtu.be/giW4occ9un0
+100
TrumpAn interesting editorial cartoon. Cartoon Museum, London.
Deceitful propaganda from US Democrats. The methods of US Democrats are similar to those of Russian propaganda.TrumpAn interesting editorial cartoon. Cartoon Museum, London.
Honest opinion of Ukrainians: «Should we start to negotiate with Russia about peace?»This video was specially filmed at the request of the Russians. Of course, you can find stupid people who do not understand how politics and the laws of war work.
https://youtu.be/FpZlRkUZGV4?si=BFevegC2girMCrNZ
Deceitful propaganda from US Democrats. The methods of US Democrats are similar to those of Russian propaganda.TrumpAn interesting editorial cartoon. Cartoon Museum, London.
US Democrats and Russian = friends and allies.
Dude, you took a drawing from the Internet, then you wrote propaganda on this drawing. In the end, you created the propaganda yourself. You're a troll! How much do Democrats pay you?This cartoon is from 1938, and I have some doubts that the author knew you will exist, when it was made.Deceitful propaganda from US Democrats. The methods of US Democrats are similar to those of Russian propaganda.TrumpAn interesting editorial cartoon. Cartoon Museum, London.
US Democrats and Russian = friends and allies.
As always, you don't think, you don't use logic, you just know one thing go for it like a brainless lemming.
Happy self stabbing!
Dude, you took a drawing from the Internet, then you wrote propaganda on this drawing. In the end, you created the propaganda yourself. You're a troll! How much do Democrats pay you?This cartoon is from 1938, and I have some doubts that the author knew you will exist, when it was made.Deceitful propaganda from US Democrats. The methods of US Democrats are similar to those of Russian propaganda.TrumpAn interesting editorial cartoon. Cartoon Museum, London.
US Democrats and Russian = friends and allies.
As always, you don't think, you don't use logic, you just know one thing go for it like a brainless lemming.
Happy self stabbing!
I'm not sure you can use other people's work to create deceitful propaganda. Make sure you don't have to answer before a court in the USA.
You fail to understand that propaganda is for the masses, while this cartoon is dedicated to you; your name is on it.1. My name is not there.
You fail to understand that propaganda is for the masses, while this cartoon is dedicated to you; your name is on it.
You created propaganda.
You fail to understand that propaganda is for the masses, while this cartoon is dedicated to you; your name is on it.1. My name is not there.
And I am not even mentioning fair use policy.:o :o :o
PS. As I said before, the original is an editorial cartoon published in newspapers back in 1938.:o ??? :-\
Even if it were commercially copyrighted, its copyright has long since expired, and it has been part of the public domain for many years.
PS. As I said before, the original is an editorial cartoon published in newspapers back in 1938.:o ??? :-\
Even if it were commercially copyrighted, its copyright has long since expired, and it has been part of the public domain for many years.
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Zero Talent, you consider yourself the smartest. Prove by your own example that what you write is not a lie. Upload this image to your shutterstock account, you can even make changes to the image. And tell us all whether this image was accepted from you or not, and under what license it was accepted (commercial or editorial).
Are you ready to risk your account?
;D ;D ;D
Zero Talent modifies other people's works, turns them into propaganda, posts it on the Internet and claims that it does not violate anyone's copyright. I offered to prove it to him, but he continued trolling and flooding. Zero Talent admitted its own worthlessness.PS. As I said before, the original is an editorial cartoon published in newspapers back in 1938.:o ??? :-\
Even if it were commercially copyrighted, its copyright has long since expired, and it has been part of the public domain for many years.
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Zero Talent, you consider yourself the smartest. Prove by your own example that what you write is not a lie. Upload this image to your shutterstock account, you can even make changes to the image. And tell us all whether this image was accepted from you or not, and under what license it was accepted (commercial or editorial).
Are you ready to risk your account?
;D ;D ;D
I don't understand what you're getting at!
ZT posted the image here in the forum. He doesn't want to market it for commercial purposes. Why would he upload it to shuttersock? What's the point?
Or are you planning to upload all the images you have posted here in the forum to shutterstock for sale? Do you have the rights to the images you have posted? I don't know what the point of this post is!
"A picture is worth ten thousand words".Yes, this is the principle of how propaganda works.
No, propaganda works through all media, including words, and it's meant for masses."A picture is worth ten thousand words".Yes, this is the principle of how propaganda works.
maga and trump will help Ukraine.+100
Two Patriot systems hit in Russian attack on KyivThis is Russian lies and propaganda. The source refers to Russian propaganda.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2024/3/25/russia-ukraine-war-live-news-at-least-four-injured-as-missiles-hit-kyiv (https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/liveblog/2024/3/25/russia-ukraine-war-live-news-at-least-four-injured-as-missiles-hit-kyiv)
… why should they lie about it…?!Everything the Russians write is lies and propaganda.
maga and trump will help Ukraine.+100
Zero Talent modifies other people's works, turns them into propaganda, posts it on the Internet and claims that it does not violate anyone's copyright. I offered to prove it to him, but he continued trolling and flooding. Zero Talent admitted its own worthlessness.PS. As I said before, the original is an editorial cartoon published in newspapers back in 1938.:o ??? :-\
Even if it were commercially copyrighted, its copyright has long since expired, and it has been part of the public domain for many years.
:-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Zero Talent, you consider yourself the smartest. Prove by your own example that what you write is not a lie. Upload this image to your shutterstock account, you can even make changes to the image. And tell us all whether this image was accepted from you or not, and under what license it was accepted (commercial or editorial).
Are you ready to risk your account?
;D ;D ;D
I don't understand what you're getting at!
ZT posted the image here in the forum. He doesn't want to market it for commercial purposes. Why would he upload it to shuttersock? What's the point?
Or are you planning to upload all the images you have posted here in the forum to shutterstock for sale? Do you have the rights to the images you have posted? I don't know what the point of this post is!
As for me, I do not change anyone's intellectual property. All I publish are links to open sources.
You are constantly publishing CURRENT images here that are subject to copyright (which has not yet expired) such as the Taurus caricature and personal rights.
Did you ask the photographers for permission before posting the pictures here? Have you paid the photographers whose pictures you use here for your propaganda purposes? Did you ask Mr. Macron whether he agreed to the use of the photomontage with his likeness?
I think you should handle it in the same way as with other issues: Before you criticize others, you should first start with yourself and ask yourself whether your actions entitle you to criticize others.
… then, who is not lying inside your universum…?! EU parasites, American Democrats, Russian Orcs and now AlJazeera… they are all liars…?… why should they lie about it…?!Everything the Russians write is lies and propaganda.
You are constantly publishing CURRENT images here that are subject to copyright (which has not yet expired) such as the Taurus caricature and personal rights.
Did you ask the photographers for permission before posting the pictures here? Have you paid the photographers whose pictures you use here for your propaganda purposes? Did you ask Mr. Macron whether he agreed to the use of the photomontage with his likeness?
I think you should handle it in the same way as with other issues: Before you criticize others, you should first start with yourself and ask yourself whether your actions entitle you to criticize others.
1. I only publish links to images that are in the public domain and where the author posted them. If there are violations of someone’s rights, then file claims against the people who created and posted these images.
2. If the copyright holder removes these images from the Internet, they will not appear on this forum.
3. I do not distribute or create propaganda on this forum, I only write the truth.
4. Zero Talent's problem is that he started altering someone else's work and posted the altered image in the Internet. This is 100% copyright infringement.
Only Russians always write 100% lies and propaganda.… then, who is not lying inside your universum…?! EU parasites, American Democrats, Russian Orcs and now AlJazeera… they are all liars…?… why should they lie about it…?!Everything the Russians write is lies and propaganda.
… Zero Talent is a KGB agent…?! Only they can do such monstrosities…No, he is a troll from the US Democratic Party.
risks being sued by the Republican Party. ;D ;D ;D
Zero Talent, have you decided to pretend to be a hero? ;D
I have already suggested to you, upload the image you modified to your account on shutterstock. Then I’ll laugh at you.
This is all visible in your drawings.
I also recommend that you see a psychiatrist, you need to be examined. You may be unsafe for others.
I'm even afraid to think what a psychiatrist will think of you when he sees your drawings.
2+2=4
Only Russians always write 100% lies and propaganda.
You are so confused...No, I'm afraid for the people who are around you. ;D ;D ;D
8) 8) 8)
(https://i.ibb.co/84fVZyr/GJe1-EUy-XUAAK6-Me.jpg)
As we can see, Trump, unlike the weak Biden, is in good physical and mental shape.
Yes, yes... of course he won. And putin scored 8 goals in a hockey match!There is no point in citing the Russian Tsar as an example. Nobody knows whether putin is alive or, if alive, in what condition he is. Russian slaves are shown every day some different people who look like putin. These people play hockey and visit other terrorist countries. But these people don’t eat anything at receptions and their feces is carried out in suitcases. They don't want to leave their DNA anywhere. Because the DNA of the first putin is known to intelligence services in other countries.
....and they say it's not a cult!
As for Trump, of course you can laugh at his text, but unlike Biden, he stands confidently on his feet, doesn’t fall and even plays golf! ;D
Rest assured that trump's golf cheating is helping Ukraine as much as putin's hockey cheating.The truth is that you are personally supporting a person who cannot even walk independently. Giving Biden the presidency is a huge blow to the strength and power of the United States, as well as to democracy around the world.
This is factually incorrect.Rest assured that trump's golf cheating is helping Ukraine as much as putin's hockey cheating.The truth is that you are personally supporting a person who cannot even walk independently
FYI, This man won 4 presidential elections and served as US president for 12 years, running the country from his wheelchair during the war.Biden's problem is not only that he can barely stand on his feet, but also that he is already confusing Ukraine with the Gaza Strip. Biden's brain has not been working well for a long time; he has memory problems. I'm not even talking about his cowardice and friendship with the Russians.
Why Ukraine’s refugees aren’t going to FranceAll this is of course rave.
https://www.politico.eu/article/why-ukraines-refugees-arent-going-to-france/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/why-ukraines-refugees-arent-going-to-france/)
Razumkov: General Staff confirms that the new draft law provides for mobilization from the age of 18This is US President Biden's fault. When there are no modern weapons, it is necessary to mobilize many people.
https://frontnews.eu/en/news/details/76926
… people…?! …late teens!What do you want to hear?
FYI, This man won 4 presidential elections and served as US president for 12 years, running the country from his wheelchair during the war.Biden's problem is not only that he can barely stand on his feet, but also that he is already confusing Ukraine with the Gaza Strip. Biden's brain has not been working well for a long time; he has memory problems. I'm not even talking about his cowardice and friendship with the Russians.
I have already answered all your other questions today. You should re-read what I wrote 3 times.
Only a ten-year-old would shamelessly brag about winning against his sycophants in a tournament that he organized.I wasn't there, I don't know the details. Have you been to the tournament? ;D
Here is your "stable genius" just saying that "you can't have an election in the middle of a political season".I didn't understand what you were talking about. Explain in more detail what Trump is talking about.
https://x.com/Sky_Lee_1/status/1772312343629688853
How do you know he won that tournament if you were not there?Only a ten-year-old would shamelessly brag about winning against his sycophants in a tournament that he organized.I wasn't there, I don't know the details. Have you been to the tournament? ;D
Here is your "stable genius" just saying that "you can't have an election in the middle of a political season".I didn't understand what you were talking about. Explain in more detail what Trump is talking about.
https://x.com/Sky_Lee_1/status/1772312343629688853
https://youtu.be/AH8CFPXCz90This is all dirt and propaganda from the Democrats.
Comprehension of facts eludes you again: basically, your "stable genius" claims that we can't have elections when we have elections.And what does Trump offer?
8) 8) 8)
(https://i.ibb.co/84fVZyr/GJe1-EUy-XUAAK6-Me.jpg)
As we can see, Trump, unlike the weak Biden, is in good physical and mental shape.
Of course, it is. That's what you always say when reality is shattering your preconceived beliefs.https://youtu.be/AH8CFPXCz90This is all dirt and propaganda from the Democrats.
Comprehension of facts eludes you again: basically, your "stable genius" claims that we can't have elections when we have elections.And what does Trump offer?
You can see him with your own eyes pushing the ball into the hole with his handSo Trump is also a juggler! ;D
This world is still so simple. Black or white.Why Ukraine’s refugees aren’t going to France
https://www.politico.eu/article/why-ukraines-refugees-arent-going-to-france/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/why-ukraines-refugees-arent-going-to-france/)
The French are also very arrogant.
I think the EU countries are interested in panic in Ukraine and want to keep for yourself more Ukrainians.
As for France, people there don’t know English and don’t want to learn it. The French are also very arrogant. Probably those who know French go there. In Ukraine, French is not popular in schools.
Incidentally, French people don't necessarily have to learn English because they get on very well with the language in France. And in many other beautiful countries with friendly people:
Interesting how you judge other countries, in this case France, from your basement window.This is correct to say about all Ukrainians living in Ukraine. Constant Russian air strikes force people to stay in basements.
Incidentally, French people don't necessarily have to learn English because they get on very well with the language in France. And in many other beautiful countries with friendly people:Former French colonies! I appreciated your humor!
Morocco, Madagascar, many African and Caribbean countries.
… Ukraine was not, but will be if it isn’t at the moment… you think that all that support is a gift…?!What are you writing about? What gifts are you writing about?
War and Theft: The Takeover of Ukraine’s Agricultural Land+100
https://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine/war-and-theft-takeover-ukraines-agricultural-land
… modern colonisation… that’s why I am talking nothing is free..: they are protecting their investements and you are doing them a favor by using and paying for weapons… if Trump wins, by loans…Here you are wrong and your reasoning is very primitive. I wrote a lot about this to everyone.
Biden - Fuck you!
Democrats - Fuck you!
Putin correctly said that the best US president for russia is the fuckhead Biden.
Biden - Fuck you!
Democrats - Fuck you!
"3. I do not distribute or create propaganda on this forum, I only write the truth."
1. The word putin must be written with a small letter.Putin correctly said that the best US president for russia is the fuckhead Biden.That is interesting.
According to you, everything that comes from Russia is propaganda.
If Putin then says something that he of course means exactly the opposite of, then that's not Russian propaganda for you.
You are a strange contemporary!
Biden - Fuck you!
Democrats - Fuck you!
"3. I do not distribute or create propaganda on this forum, I only write the truth."
This is Ukraine’s position, not propaganda. This is how the media in Ukraine and citizens react. Well, this coincides with my point of view.
When was a personal point of view considered propaganda?
Biden - Fuck you!
Democrats - Fuck you!
"3. I do not distribute or create propaganda on this forum, I only write the truth."
This is Ukraine’s position, not propaganda. This is how the media in Ukraine and citizens react.
Biden - Fuck you!
Democrats - Fuck you!
"3. I do not distribute or create propaganda on this forum, I only write the truth."
When was a personal point of view considered propaganda?
Putin correctly said that the best US president for russia is the fuckhead Biden.That is interesting.
According to you, everything that comes from Russia is propaganda.
If Putin then says something that he of course means exactly the opposite of, then that's not Russian propaganda for you.
You are a strange contemporary!
1. The word putin must be written with a small letter.
Putin correctly said that the best US president for russia is the fuckhead Biden.That is interesting.
According to you, everything that comes from Russia is propaganda.
If Putin then says something that he of course means exactly the opposite of, then that's not Russian propaganda for you.
You are a strange contemporary!
2. Russian propaganda is 100% false.
Honestly, Putin lies when he opens his mouth. As far as I know, you see it that way too.You don't read what I write well. I don't trust the Russians. I just wrote that Biden is trying to match what putin said. That's all I said. I am not responsible for Biden's policies.
And you believe him on this one single statement?
Honestly, Putin lies when he opens his mouth. As far as I know, you see it that way too.
And you believe him on this one single statement?
You don't read what I write well.
This is all you need to know about Scholz (colleague of KGB agent Merkel). All in one picture.
(https://img.pravda.com/images/doc/a/5/a52cea8-scholz-putin_690x387.avif)
;D ;D ;D
Is not a fact.This is all you need to know about Scholz (colleague of KGB agent Merkel). All in one picture.The KGB agent and his useful idiot.
;D ;D ;D
Is not a fact.This is all you need to know about Scholz (colleague of KGB agent Merkel). All in one picture.The KGB agent and his useful idiot.
;D ;D ;D
Yes, any contact with Russian Na.zis is a crime, and I do not justify Trump. But if you look at these two photos from a psychological point of view, Scholz looks like a person who obeys putin, and Trump looks the opposite. Trump stands above putin and pats him on the shoulder from top to bottom. Putin looks like a man who is afraid of Trump.
Is not a fact.This is all you need to know about Scholz (colleague of KGB agent Merkel). All in one picture.The KGB agent and his useful idiot.
;D ;D ;D
Yes, any contact with Russian Na.zis is a crime, and I do not justify Trump. But if you look at these two photos from a psychological point of view, Scholz looks like a person who obeys putin, and Trump looks the opposite. Trump stands above putin and pats him on the shoulder from top to bottom. Putin looks like a man who is afraid of Trump.
In Scholz I see an obedient subordinate of putin. Scholz sits and listens to the orders that putin gives him to carry out.Visual language and Psychology is obviously not your thing either.Is not a fact.This is all you need to know about Scholz (colleague of KGB agent Merkel). All in one picture.The KGB agent and his useful idiot.
;D ;D ;D
Yes, any contact with Russian Na.zis is a crime, and I do not justify Trump. But if you look at these two photos from a psychological point of view, Scholz looks like a person who obeys putin, and Trump looks the opposite. Trump stands above putin and pats him on the shoulder from top to bottom. Putin looks like a man who is afraid of Trump.
Let me help you a little:
Picture with Scholz: compulsory visit, distance, impersonal atmosphere
Picture with Trump: friendship, old buddies
Right, right... see how his previous victory was celebrated in Moscow... "we will have great relations with putin and russia," the useful idiot said...Yes he said. And after that, Trump began to pursue an effective anti-Russian policy.
https://youtu.be/455vMrEm958
Right, right... see how his previous victory was celebrated in Moscow... "we will have great relations with putin and russia," the useful idiot said...Yes he said. And after that, Trump began to pursue an effective anti-Russian policy.
https://youtu.be/455vMrEm958
In Scholz I see an obedient subordinate of putin. Scholz sits and listens to the orders that putin gives him to carry out.Visual language and Psychology is obviously not your thing either.Is not a fact.This is all you need to know about Scholz (colleague of KGB agent Merkel). All in one picture.The KGB agent and his useful idiot.
;D ;D ;D
Yes, any contact with Russian Na.zis is a crime, and I do not justify Trump. But if you look at these two photos from a psychological point of view, Scholz looks like a person who obeys putin, and Trump looks the opposite. Trump stands above putin and pats him on the shoulder from top to bottom. Putin looks like a man who is afraid of Trump.
Let me help you a little:
Picture with Scholz: compulsory visit, distance, impersonal atmosphere
Picture with Trump: friendship, old buddies
We have already discussed this in this topic, I wrote the answers. I understand that as a troll you are paid money to repeat the same propaganda, which is why you ask the same question 100 times. You don't read the answers, you are only paid to spread propaganda.Right, right... see how his previous victory was celebrated in Moscow... "we will have great relations with putin and russia," the useful idiot said...Yes he said. And after that, Trump began to pursue an effective anti-Russian policy.
https://youtu.be/455vMrEm958
Sure...that's why his maga cult is helping russia today, by blocking the aid Ukraine desperately needs.
But you do you... and call this policy anti-russian.
“This is not some political skirmish that only matters here in America,” Mr. Tusk told reporters. “The absence of this positive decision of Mr. Johnson will really cost thousands of lives there — children, women. He must be aware of his personal responsibility.”1. nytimes is completely controlled by US Democrats and often publishes commissioned articles from Russian Na.zis.
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...
Meeting privately with Mr. Johnson in his office in the Capitol, President Andrzej Duda of Poland appealed to the Louisiana Republican’s respect for President Ronald Reagan, whose portrait hung beside the speaker during the meeting. Mr. Duda quoted Mr. Reagan extensively and praised his willingness to call out good versus evil during the Cold War
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/25/us/politics/speaker-mike-johnson-ukraine.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/25/us/politics/speaker-mike-johnson-ukraine.html)
… this is what I was talking about few days ago… late teens… :o::)
https://t.me/rustroyka1945/16412
As I said, you do you.“This is not some political skirmish that only matters here in America,” Mr. Tusk told reporters. “The absence of this positive decision of Mr. Johnson will really cost thousands of lives there — children, women. He must be aware of his personal responsibility.”1. nytimes is completely controlled by US Democrats and often publishes commissioned articles from Russian Na.zis.
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...
Meeting privately with Mr. Johnson in his office in the Capitol, President Andrzej Duda of Poland appealed to the Louisiana Republican’s respect for President Ronald Reagan, whose portrait hung beside the speaker during the meeting. Mr. Duda quoted Mr. Reagan extensively and praised his willingness to call out good versus evil during the Cold War
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/25/us/politics/speaker-mike-johnson-ukraine.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/25/us/politics/speaker-mike-johnson-ukraine.html)
2. NYtimes mainly publishes propaganda from US Democrats.
3. Poland itself needs to stop blocking aid to Ukraine and Ukrainian exports. Poland has an interesting policy, the Poles do everything the Russians tell them, but at the same time they make claims to the USA. This is understandable, the Poles are trying to help US democrats, because US democrats are friends of the Russians.
4. The EU is able to fully provide Ukraine with any weapons. But the EU does not do this, because the EU is a friend of russia and follows the orders of US democrats.
5. No matter what the media controlled by the Democrats write, there are no longer any serious problems with shells in Ukraine.
>:( >:( >:(
The fact remains that dozens of billions in weapons and military aid, desperately needed by Ukraine, are blocked in the US Congress by your dear Johnson, who is afraid of being deposed by trump's maga.It's a lie. Military aid there is only 5-6 billion dollars. All other assistance is non-military. And even in these 5-6 billion there are no aviation, no missiles and no tanks.
The fact remains that dozens of billions in weapons and military aid, desperately needed by Ukraine, are blocked in the US Congress by your dear Johnson, who is afraid of being deposed by trump's maga.It's a lie. Military aid there is only 5-6 billion dollars. All other assistance is non-military. And even in these 5-6 billion there are no aviation, no missiles and no tanks.
Democrats - Fuck you!
Ukraine may have no choice but to lower its fighting age… this is what I was talking about few days ago… late teens… :o::)
https://t.me/rustroyka1945/16412
These are military school cadets. They are taught to kill Russian orcs. This is a teaching.
;D ;D ;D
Kyiv says new Russian offensive could come in May or JuneRussian orcs have been offensive for 10 years.
https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-war-latest-kyiv-expects-new-russian-offensive-in-may-or-june/
… Ukraine can’t win… simply, mathematics are not in your favor… Billions of any currency from the west are not enough…The same can be said about the EU countries and Europarasites. The USA is far away, overseas. And when the Democrats are in power, any battles will be lost to NATO.
Ukraine may have no choice but to lower its fighting age25 or 27 years old, what a difference. The main thing is that the soldier is trained to kill Russian orcs. 8)
https://kyivindependent.com/opinion-ukraine-may-have-no-choice-but-to-lower-its-fighting-age/
8)
(https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:660/1*W_xB80S8qQwy2SYXQ-waWg.png)
The fact remains that dozens of billions in weapons and military aid, desperately needed by Ukraine, are blocked in the US Congress by your dear Johnson, who is afraid of being deposed by trump's maga.It's a lie. Military aid there is only 5-6 billion dollars. All other assistance is non-military. And even in these 5-6 billion there are no aviation, no missiles and no tanks.
Democrats - Fuck you!
There's nearly $14 billion to allow Ukraine to rearm itself through the purchase of weapons and munitionsMilitary experts call the amount of 5-6 billion direct military assistance. It is not known where you got the number 14 from. You need to look at the official document where all this is described.
Zero Talent - Useful Idiot+100
… are you talking of Azov bataillon laws or democratic standards in Ukraine…?!Kyiv says new Russian offensive could come in May or JuneRussian orcs have been offensive for 10 years.
https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-war-latest-kyiv-expects-new-russian-offensive-in-may-or-june/… Ukraine can’t win… simply, mathematics are not in your favor… Billions of any currency from the west are not enough…The same can be said about the EU countries and Europarasites. The USA is far away, overseas. And when the Democrats are in power, any battles will be lost to NATO.Ukraine may have no choice but to lower its fighting age25 or 27 years old, what a difference. The main thing is that the soldier is trained to kill Russian orcs. 8)
https://kyivindependent.com/opinion-ukraine-may-have-no-choice-but-to-lower-its-fighting-age/
trucic,
Alarmists are shot according to laws of war. I do not recommend that you appear in Ukraine with your statements.
;D ;D ;D ;D
There's nearly $14 billion to allow Ukraine to rearm itself through the purchase of weapons and munitionsMilitary experts call the amount of 5-6 billion direct military assistance. It is not known where you got the number 14 from. You need to look at the official document where all this is described.
In any case, these are not weapons that can change the situation at the front in favor of Ukraine in terms of liberating Russian-occupied territories.
I don’t write anywhere that Ukraine doesn’t need anything, it’s clear that Ukraine needs to take everything they give from these democrats (friends of the Russians). But this does not mean that Ukraine will support cowardly democrats in elections.
From the Kyiv perspective probably the single most critically-needed category is $5.6 billion for more ammunition.Well, this is closer to the truth. Everything else is just perspective.
From the Kyiv perspective probably the single most critically-needed category is $5.6 billion for more ammunition.Well, this is closer to the truth. Everything else is just perspective.
Now the EU has connected well, weapons are coming to Ukraine.
The Republicans are doing everything right, the Democrats are evil and friends of the Russians. I have already written in this thread about why the Republicans are pursuing such a policy. People read me, unlike you.
;)
Zero Talent, you are a troll who comes up with propaganda on the fly. I told you that you need to re-read my posts three times over the last 1-2 months. In my posts, I have written many times about why the Republican policy is correct.From the Kyiv perspective probably the single most critically-needed category is $5.6 billion for more ammunition.Well, this is closer to the truth. Everything else is just perspective.
Now the EU has connected well, weapons are coming to Ukraine.
The Republicans are doing everything right, the Democrats are evil and friends of the Russians. I have already written in this thread about why the Republicans are pursuing such a policy. People read me, unlike you.
;)
It's not just closer to the truth, it is the truth.
Your world is upside down. maga is blocking all $60 billions, including the amount that you think is closer to your truth. However, you just said (like a true russian asset) that Ukraine doesn't need ammunition anymore, so it's okay for maga to block it.
So many conflicting ideas are spinning in that illogical head of yours...
… are you talking of Azov bataillon laws or democratic standards in Ukraine…?!Do you know any armies that have democracy? :o :o :o
Zero Talent, you are a troll who comes up with propaganda on the fly. I told you that you need to re-read my posts three times over the last 1-2 months. In my posts, I have written many times about why the Republican policy is correct.From the Kyiv perspective probably the single most critically-needed category is $5.6 billion for more ammunition.Well, this is closer to the truth. Everything else is just perspective.
Now the EU has connected well, weapons are coming to Ukraine.
The Republicans are doing everything right, the Democrats are evil and friends of the Russians. I have already written in this thread about why the Republicans are pursuing such a policy. People read me, unlike you.
;)
It's not just closer to the truth, it is the truth.
Your world is upside down. maga is blocking all $60 billions, including the amount that you think is closer to your truth. However, you just said (like a true russian asset) that Ukraine doesn't need ammunition anymore, so it's okay for maga to block it.
So many conflicting ideas are spinning in that illogical head of yours...
I’m not a parrot to repeat for you every week what I’ve already said.
This topic is read by 4-8 thousand people a week, and only Zero Talent is engaged in trolling and propaganda in favor of the Democrats. >:(
In any case, you can remain unconvinced. Although I'm sure you don't have your own opinion (trolls can't have their own opinion). You are polluting the topic and flooding!
Zero Talent, you are relaying Democratic propaganda!Zero Talent, you are a troll who comes up with propaganda on the fly. I told you that you need to re-read my posts three times over the last 1-2 months. In my posts, I have written many times about why the Republican policy is correct.From the Kyiv perspective probably the single most critically-needed category is $5.6 billion for more ammunition.Well, this is closer to the truth. Everything else is just perspective.
Now the EU has connected well, weapons are coming to Ukraine.
The Republicans are doing everything right, the Democrats are evil and friends of the Russians. I have already written in this thread about why the Republicans are pursuing such a policy. People read me, unlike you.
;)
It's not just closer to the truth, it is the truth.
Your world is upside down. maga is blocking all $60 billions, including the amount that you think is closer to your truth. However, you just said (like a true russian asset) that Ukraine doesn't need ammunition anymore, so it's okay for maga to block it.
So many conflicting ideas are spinning in that illogical head of yours...
I’m not a parrot to repeat for you every week what I’ve already said.
This topic is read by 4-8 thousand people a week, and only Zero Talent is engaged in trolling and propaganda in favor of the Democrats. >:(
In any case, you can remain unconvinced. Although I'm sure you don't have your own opinion (trolls can't have their own opinion). You are polluting the topic and flooding!
The fact remains, and any intelligent person would easily see it: trump's maga isolationists are blocking $60 billion worth of aid destined to help Ukraine defend itself.
Only a russian asset would welcome this move and cheer for the maga party.
Here you can read how intelligent Ukrainians assess the situation. Even if there are people here who simply don't want to get it.Who are these intelligent Ukrainians? I didn't see this on the link.
https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/ohne-us-militaerhilfe-muessen-wir-uns-schritt-fuer-schritt-zurueckziehen-a-4f70c49d-1521-4f2b-a018-d03cecda3f88 (https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/ohne-us-militaerhilfe-muessen-wir-uns-schritt-fuer-schritt-zurueckziehen-a-4f70c49d-1521-4f2b-a018-d03cecda3f88)
The world only needs a Republican Party led by the USA!
anti-Ukraine maga isolationists??? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Musk about war in Ukraine…1. He is not a military man.
It was a tragic waste of life for Ukraine to attack a larger army that had defense in depth…
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1774143429720596865
… so those are not EU parasites..?!Thanks to the Republicans, the parasites began to stir, remembered about Ukraine, about the murders, Russian terrorism and began to do something. The closer Trump gets to power, the faster the parasites will turn into non-parasites.
… so only KGB left, to be solved by MAGA… :)But KGB was officially dissolved on 3 December 1991. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB
… so only KGB left, to be solved by MAGA… :)US Democrats are a much greater threat to the whole world than the KGB.
… so only KGB left, to be solved by MAGA… :)But KGB was officially dissolved on 3 December 1991. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB
+100… so only KGB left, to be solved by MAGA… :)But KGB was officially dissolved on 3 December 1991. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB
I agree with Stocker on this one. The KGB, like most secret service agencies across Eastern Europe, was only rebranded after the fall of the Berlin Wall.
The infamous romanian Securitate became Romanian Intelligence Service, the bulgarian State Security became State Intelligence Agency, etc
Rest assured that under the new russian Federal Security Service, the KGB spies remained in service, as did their modus operandi.
Once a KGB agent, always a KGB agent. putin knows best.
… they just need to do their job and make profits - by forcing goverments to use and ask for more killing machines… missiles…Not for killing, but for eliminating Russian orcs.
.... bas.tards, motherfucker, fuckfaces and friends of the Russians.
To put it culturally, I can only write two points regarding US Democrats:.... bas.tards, motherfucker, fuckfaces and friends of the Russians.
Congratulations, Self-Reflection is a good start.
Now we just need to learn to leave the gutter language behind and express ourselves a little more carefully.
3. KGB gulag…?! :)I am a supporter of democracy and humane methods. I am against violence, torture and Na.zism. Therefore, only the electric chair or prison.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923 (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923)Let's read the source.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/23/trump-putin-genius-russia-ukraine-crisis (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/23/trump-putin-genius-russia-ukraine-crisis)
Russia’s sanction-proofed economy is helping it avoid a defeat in UkraineThere is only one conclusion from this article. The policies of the US Democrats are weak, criminal and friendly to putin.
https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-sanction-proofed-economy-avoids-defeat-ukraine-energy-oil-hydrocarbons/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-sanction-proofed-economy-avoids-defeat-ukraine-energy-oil-hydrocarbons/)
❗️People are leaving Kharkov en masse!Yes it's true. And this has been true for a long time. The cowardly criminal Biden did not provide Ukraine with F16 and medium- and long-range missiles. This is the result of the criminal policies of the Democrats.
https://twitter.com/Wagnersfamily/status/1774911105896247434?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
… why do you think anyone is going to send a la carte weapons your state needs…?! They will support Ukraine until they have interests, not because you need more and more and more weapons… Ukraine have paid a huge price because of that…1. Budapest Memorandum.
4. What is happening is called World War III.
In my opinion, there is only one way out. The Republicans should declare martial law and ban the Democratic Party.
Ukraine would have no place in either NATO or the EU!:o :o :o
::) ::) ::)4. What is happening is called World War III.
Another one of your damned lies designed to stir up fear.
Only YOU and some sick conspiracy theorists are calling the current state third world war.
Among educated normal thinking intelligent people this is not common sense.
- If everyone thought like that, the third world war would have started long ago.Wake up, the war has already been going on for 10 years.
- If everyone thought like that, the third world war would have started long ago.Wake up, the war has already been going on for 10 years.
Everyone can see the results of the rule of the US Democratic Party based on the example of Ukraine.
That was a very bitter lesson for me. I generally believe the West more than the East. But this lie - and there might have been many others - is etched in my memory.What are you writing about? Which west, which east?
The US did everything right by starting the war in Iraq. It’s a shame that they didn’t do the same in Iran and North Korea. It is also a pity that the EU and the US supported and developed China. It’s a shame that the Russian empire was given the opportunity to develop under putin.- If everyone thought like that, the third world war would have started long ago.Wake up, the war has already been going on for 10 years.
Everyone can see the results of the rule of the US Democratic Party based on the example of Ukraine.
Wrong!
We don't have a third world war.
Let me remind you that it was under a Republican US administration that George W. Bush (and Tony Blair of the UK) found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. At least that's what they said. Colin Powell bitterly regretted not having contradicted this statement.
Do you remember?
We don't have a third world war.Tell that to your government, which is sending weapons in trains to Ukraine and imposing sanctions against the Russians. Pray to God that the Ukrainians will not allow the Russians to reach the Polish border. It is very possible that you will have to fight against the Russians and the Ukrainians mobilized into their army.
In that democratic party, the majority are communists. Let zero talent correct me, of course.
We don't have a third world war.
Just 5 months ago you wrote that World War 3 was underway, but now I see you have been treated with propaganda.
At one point, the third world war is actually already taking place: In the social media.??? :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
In that democratic party, the majority are communists. Let zero talent correct me, of course.
Nope, far from a majority.
In fact, as someone who lived many years in both the EU and the US, I can say that a large majority of the US Democratic Party is to the right of many liberal parties in Europe, which are considered to be right-wing parties in Europe. It's no coincidence that the US Dems are also called "liberals".
The fact is that a significant percentage of democrats have marxist views
…. But you are dependant of both EU and NATO… and of all others… and why you think tjat either one of those will accept your application while tou are in war with third party…?! You will have to finish your war and then start with long process - fulfill standards which are needed to be accepted…What are you writing about? About what kind of dependence and what does the EU and NATO have to do with it?
Ukraine at great risk of its front lines collapsingAll conclusions in this article are lies. The article was written with the purpose of causing panic. The emphasis is not placed correctly. Obviously the customers of these article are Russian.
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-great-risk-front-line-collapse-war-russia/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-great-risk-front-line-collapse-war-russia/)
… yes, smells like KGB…Ukraine at great risk of its front lines collapsingAll conclusions in this article are lies. The article was written with the purpose of causing panic. The emphasis is not placed correctly. Obviously the customers of these article are Russian.
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-great-risk-front-line-collapse-war-russia/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-great-risk-front-line-collapse-war-russia/)
… just imagine a month of living in Ukraine without any funds and weapons from EU and USA…?! Then half of the year… whole year… will you think that there isn’t any dependency…?! Yes you are fully independent, for sure…Ukraine also produces weapons. The military-industrial complex in Ukraine is quite developed.
… so there is no need for anything from the West…?! You are constantly blaming them for F16, long range missiles, artillery shells… you can replace Starlink with what…?! Make money for debts, wages and pensions… how?! West is taking care of few million Ukrainian refugees… but, in the end you are independent…But it’s better to imagine russia, what will these Na.zis do when the supply of weapons from North Korea, Iran and China stops to russia? And this is very real if Republicans come to power in the United States.
West is taking care of few million Ukrainian refugees…I don’t agree, the West is stealing people from Ukraine. This is if you write the truth. Ukraine can independently provide its citizens with food and housing.
Learn your definitions.
In that democratic party, the majority are communists. Let zero talent correct me, of course.
Nope, far from a majority.
In fact, as someone who lived many years in both the EU and the US, I can say that a large majority of the US Democratic Party is to the right of many liberal parties in Europe, which are considered to be right-wing parties in Europe. It's no coincidence that the US Dems are also called "liberals".
I will cite here your previous statements about US Democrats. Are you sure you're not contradicting yourself? ;DThe fact is that a significant percentage of democrats have marxist views
Significant means non-negligible, noteworthy, it doesn't mean a majority.Ok. ;D ;D ;D
And having marxist views doesn't make one a "communist."Same sh.it.
The majority of US Democrats are capitalists but also tend to support "the little man."Let me clarify that democrats are not capitalists, but idiots, cowards and friends of the Russians, as well as friends of other world terrorists.
… yes, you just need to ask them to come back… even those people from Khatkiv are advised to flee to Lavov region and that evil EU…West is taking care of few million Ukrainian refugees…I don’t agree, the West is stealing people from Ukraine. This is if you write the truth. Ukraine can independently provide its citizens with food and housing.
‘No choice’: Ukraine eyes Kerch bridge in Crimea for drone attackAny Russian military infrastructure must be destroyed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/ukraine-eyes-kerch-bridge-crimea-drone-attack (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/ukraine-eyes-kerch-bridge-crimea-drone-attack)
Significant means non-negligible, noteworthy, it doesn't mean a majority.Ok. ;D ;D ;DAnd having marxist views doesn't make one a "communist."Same sh.it.The majority of US Democrats are capitalists but also tend to support "the little man."Let me clarify that democrats are not capitalists, but idiots, cowards and friends of the Russians, as well as friends of other world terrorists.
Regarding support for Ukraine, I have written many times, this support is very small from the United States. Otherwise, the situation in Ukraine would be radically different now.
1. There are no parties in Ukraine in the classical sense of the word. Those that exist belong to certain clans or oligarchs. These parties are definitely not left, but rather right. ;DSignificant means non-negligible, noteworthy, it doesn't mean a majority.Ok. ;D ;D ;DAnd having marxist views doesn't make one a "communist."Same sh.it.The majority of US Democrats are capitalists but also tend to support "the little man."Let me clarify that democrats are not capitalists, but idiots, cowards and friends of the Russians, as well as friends of other world terrorists.
Regarding support for Ukraine, I have written many times, this support is very small from the United States. Otherwise, the situation in Ukraine would be radically different now.
I am certain than virtually all Ukrainian parties are positioned to the left of the US Democrats, when it comes to private property, the role of the government, care for "the little man", etc
Based on your "logic", they are ALL communist idiots.
But we that this is not true. There are only a few useful idiots here and there who still believe that maga and trump will save Ukraine.
‘No choice’: Ukraine eyes Kerch bridge in Crimea for drone attackAny Russian military infrastructure must be destroyed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/ukraine-eyes-kerch-bridge-crimea-drone-attack (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/ukraine-eyes-kerch-bridge-crimea-drone-attack)
1. Yes.‘No choice’: Ukraine eyes Kerch bridge in Crimea for drone attackAny Russian military infrastructure must be destroyed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/ukraine-eyes-kerch-bridge-crimea-drone-attack (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/ukraine-eyes-kerch-bridge-crimea-drone-attack)
1). … so bridges are military infrastructure…?!
2). Do you think that dams are too…?
1. There are no parties in Ukraine in the classical sense of the word. Those that exist belong to certain clans or oligarchs. These parties are definitely not left, but rather right. ;DSignificant means non-negligible, noteworthy, it doesn't mean a majority.Ok. ;D ;D ;DAnd having marxist views doesn't make one a "communist."Same sh.it.The majority of US Democrats are capitalists but also tend to support "the little man."Let me clarify that democrats are not capitalists, but idiots, cowards and friends of the Russians, as well as friends of other world terrorists.
Regarding support for Ukraine, I have written many times, this support is very small from the United States. Otherwise, the situation in Ukraine would be radically different now.
I am certain than virtually all Ukrainian parties are positioned to the left of the US Democrats, when it comes to private property, the role of the government, care for "the little man", etc
Based on your "logic", they are ALL communist idiots.
But we that this is not true. There are only a few useful idiots here and there who still believe that maga and trump will save Ukraine.
In Ukraine there are no communist or socialist parties in parliament.
2. Yes, I am sure that the policies of Trump and the Republicans will be much more effective and better for Ukraine than the policies of the Democrats.
There are no socialist nor communist parties in power in the US either, but this doesn't stop you from believing that there are. So that's not an argument you are consistent with. Logic fails you again.I never said that. Initially, in 2023, you wrote in this thread that US Democrats include Marxists and socialists, perhaps even communists. I was only referring to the information received from you.
There are only a few useful idiots here and there who still believe that maga and trump will save Ukraine.You can also call the Ukrainian media idiots. I provide a link to the Ukrainian article. You can translate it in Google translator. The article says Biden is an ass.hole.
There are no socialist nor communist parties in power in the US either, but this doesn't stop you from believing that there are. So that's not an argument you are consistent with. Logic fails you again.I never said that. Initially, in 2023, you wrote in this thread that US Democrats include Marxists and socialists, perhaps even communists. I was only referring to the information received from you.
;D
In that democratic party, the majority are communists.
1. Marxists and communists = enemies of humanity. History has proven it.There are no socialist nor communist parties in power in the US either, but this doesn't stop you from believing that there are. So that's not an argument you are consistent with. Logic fails you again.I never said that. Initially, in 2023, you wrote in this thread that US Democrats include Marxists and socialists, perhaps even communists. I was only referring to the information received from you.
;D
Nope. You said that a majority of Democrats are communists. Just scroll up.In that democratic party, the majority are communists.
What I said is that a "significant" amount of Democrats have Marxist views. Again: significant is not a majority, and having (some) "Marxist views" doesn't make a party or a person "communist" (i.e. doesn't believe in private enterprise/property).
As I said, there are many parties holding varying degrees of Marxist views, including many who label themselves as right-wing.
Fortunately, only a small minority of Ukrainians are putin's useful idiots who belive that trump and maga will save Ukraine.
1. Marxists and communists = enemies of humanity. History has proven it.There are no socialist nor communist parties in power in the US either, but this doesn't stop you from believing that there are. So that's not an argument you are consistent with. Logic fails you again.I never said that. Initially, in 2023, you wrote in this thread that US Democrats include Marxists and socialists, perhaps even communists. I was only referring to the information received from you.
;D
Nope. You said that a majority of Democrats are communists. Just scroll up.In that democratic party, the majority are communists.
What I said is that a "significant" amount of Democrats have Marxist views. Again: significant is not a majority, and having (some) "Marxist views" doesn't make a party or a person "communist" (i.e. doesn't believe in private enterprise/property).
As I said, there are many parties holding varying degrees of Marxist views, including many who label themselves as right-wing.
Fortunately, only a small minority of Ukrainians are putin's useful idiots who belive that trump and maga will save Ukraine.
2. I didn’t express myself very clearly then. Yes, I wrote that, but I was based on your information from 2023. This should have been written right away, but I’m now writing a clarifying text.
I also wrote that you will correct me, what did you mean, you did it. I have no complaints against you. ;D
3. How do you know how many people in Ukraine support Biden? ??? ::) ::) ::) ::)
For the record, I don’t support Marxist views. I support freedom, civil liberties, free markets, and small governments.1. Putin is the result of the rule of Marxists and communists. He is their child.
I am convinced that, as opposed to a small minority of putin's useful idiots, a majority of intelligent Ukrainians can see through the propaganda and understand that a trump presidency with maga in control would equate to a disaster for Ukraine.
For the record, I don’t support Marxist views. I support freedom, civil liberties, free markets, and small governments.1. Putin is the result of the rule of Marxists and communists. He is their child.
I am convinced that, as opposed to a small minority of putin's useful idiots, a majority of intelligent Ukrainians can see through the propaganda and understand that a trump presidency with maga in control would equate to a disaster for Ukraine.
2. There is no need to try to impose your personal opinion on all Ukrainians. They don't read you anyway ;D. Your fantasies are very far from reality. And I have been writing for a long time that you personally definitely have some kind of personal benefit from the victory of the Democrats. Your interests do not coincide with the interests of Ukraine.
P.S. Yes, putin is the child of the communist and Marxist ideology, now drifting into fascism.+100
You have no logical arguments against all the facts showing that trump and maga are a disaster for UkrainAll my posts in this thread are based on arguments. In my posts, I substantiated that democrats are the enemies of not only Ukraine but also the entire civilized world.
You have no logical arguments against all the facts showing that trump and maga are a disaster for UkrainAll my posts in this thread are based on arguments. In my posts, I substantiated that democrats are the enemies of not only Ukraine but also the entire civilized world.
I also argued that Trump is the best choice for democratic countries (compared to Biden, of course).
You need to re-read all my posts in this thread. ;D ;D ;D
Zero Talent, In this thread you are spreading propaganda from US Democrats and trolling. You do not write any arguments here, all your arguments are a copy of propaganda.
At one point, the third world war is actually already taking place: In the social media.??? :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Let's test your school knowledge of history. I'll ask just one question. In what year did the Second World War begin?
There are only a few useful idiots here and there who still believe that maga and trump will save Ukraine.You can also call the Ukrainian media idiots. I provide a link to the Ukrainian article. You can translate it in Google translator. The article says Biden is an ass.hole.
https://zn.ua/ukr/WORLD/bajden-chi-tramp-khto-krashchij-dlja-ukrajini.html
This is maga:These are not arguments, this is the opinion of one politician. Mostly, even she asks the right questions.
I am certain that a large majority of intelligent Ukrainians see reality as it is: trump with maga in power equals Ukraine's capitulation.Come to Ukraine and go straight to the front. Try telling the soldiers on the battlefield how good the US Democrats and Biden are. At best, you'll get punched in the face. ;D ;D ;D
You think like this: You want to hit Russia with weapons - even in the figurative sense - as Russia uses them. Then what distinguishes you from a Russian leader whom you curse? Nothing. Then you are also an orc.This is the insane position of a pacifist. Your words have nothing to do with democracy. This is cowardice and pacifism. Or an ostrich with its head in the sand. ;D
I asked you one simple question. In what year did the Second World War begin? I did not find the answer in your essay. ;DAt one point, the third world war is actually already taking place: In the social media.??? :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Let's test your school knowledge of history. I'll ask just one question. In what year did the Second World War begin?
The basis for the Second World War took place in Germany. And, yes, via a successively perfected propaganda apparatus. There was no social media. But there was the famous "Volksempfänger". And it only broadcast what the government wanted. Later on, films were even made about perseverance - with the message that the Germans were the best the planet had to offer. If you like, "Germany first" - does that remind you of anything?
To cut a long story short: back then, what you wish had happened in the USA happened in Germany: that one party should have the right to ban other parties from governing for many years. We know this from Russia, too!
Perhaps you should really start thinking about whether your understanding of democracy and its development is the right one. From my point of view, I say to you crystal clear: NO!!!
As always, you extracted from the text only what fits the propaganda of the Democrats. You are not taking into account the entire context of the article. But I posted this article here not only for you, but also for other readers. And the author correctly writes that Biden is a coward and a bas.tard.There are only a few useful idiots here and there who still believe that maga and trump will save Ukraine.You can also call the Ukrainian media idiots. I provide a link to the Ukrainian article. You can translate it in Google translator. The article says Biden is an ass.hole.
https://zn.ua/ukr/WORLD/bajden-chi-tramp-khto-krashchij-dlja-ukrajini.html
You never read that article, or if you did, you didn't understand it.
Not surprising: you were caught with your pants down before when you quoted that book you never read, only to prove yourself wrong.
The author says what I always told you:
The main political opponent of Joe Biden, Donald Trump, on the contrary, is famous for his unpredictability and impulsiveness. Trump's unpredictability in international politics is a very big risk for Ukraine. It is quite possible to expect a complete cessation of military and financial support from him..
Another risk is that if Trump wins another election, the role of extreme MAGA-Republicans may increase. It is this group that is most often critical of further support for Ukraine. Since the internal opposition to Trump in the Republican Party has effectively disappeared, the political balance there may shift in the direction of the most ardent Trumpists. Even quite powerful Republican politicians, who previously openly supported Ukraine, are now forced to follow Trump's fairway. This is certainly alarming news for Ukraine.
In the current difficult circumstances, it is quite likely that Ukraine should not take any risks.
NATO ministers’ doubts, fears and eye-rolls over €100B Ukraine plan
https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-foreign-ministers-doubts-fears-eye-rolls-e100b-ukraine-plan/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-foreign-ministers-doubts-fears-eye-rolls-e100b-ukraine-plan/)
As always, you extracted from the text only what fits the propaganda of the Democrats. You are not taking into account the entire context of the article. But I posted this article here not only for you, but also for other readers. And the author correctly writes that Biden is a coward and a bas.tard.There are only a few useful idiots here and there who still believe that maga and trump will save Ukraine.You can also call the Ukrainian media idiots. I provide a link to the Ukrainian article. You can translate it in Google translator. The article says Biden is an ass.hole.
https://zn.ua/ukr/WORLD/bajden-chi-tramp-khto-krashchij-dlja-ukrajini.html
You never read that article, or if you did, you didn't understand it.
Not surprising: you were caught with your pants down before when you quoted that book you never read, only to prove yourself wrong.
The author says what I always told you:
The main political opponent of Joe Biden, Donald Trump, on the contrary, is famous for his unpredictability and impulsiveness. Trump's unpredictability in international politics is a very big risk for Ukraine. It is quite possible to expect a complete cessation of military and financial support from him..
Another risk is that if Trump wins another election, the role of extreme MAGA-Republicans may increase. It is this group that is most often critical of further support for Ukraine. Since the internal opposition to Trump in the Republican Party has effectively disappeared, the political balance there may shift in the direction of the most ardent Trumpists. Even quite powerful Republican politicians, who previously openly supported Ukraine, are now forced to follow Trump's fairway. This is certainly alarming news for Ukraine.
In the current difficult circumstances, it is quite likely that Ukraine should not take any risks.
In any case, this article proves that few people like Biden in Ukraine.
And yet, I don’t need to read some books in full, especially when they contain information that is a truism for me. I don't re-read information that I know. You are like a 100% troll from the Democrats, instead of telling me thank you for enlightening you, you are trying to accuse me of something. ;D ;D ;D
Again, learn to read. It is not only the opinion of one politician, but the opinion of 117 politicians, the maga majority within the GOP, the same majority the article you are quoting without reading is warning about.This is maga:These are not arguments, this is the opinion of one politician.
However, there is currently no absolutely clear answer as to who may be better for us in the future of several years: the overly predictable and cautious Biden or the inconsistent impulsive Trump1. This article is the opinion of the author and reflects those publications that exist in Ukraine.
Again, learn to read. It is not only the opinion of one politician, but the opinion of 117 politicians, the maga majority within the GOP, the same majority the article you are quoting without reading is warning about.I already wrote. I liked what this lady wrote. She raised poignant and valid questions. It is unclear why Israel and Taiwan receive interest-free aid when they can pay.
And they put this opinion into action when they repealed the aid for Ukraine. They will do it again attempting to get rid of the speaker of the house (again), if he is not listening to the maga majority.
Zero Talent, I am tired of you. ;D ;D ;D
You are not interesting to read, you constantly write the same nonsense. I will not bother you.
"Mike McCaul says that Sullivan believes that Russia will launch a first nuclear strike against the United States if Ukraine is given too much military aid.
What planet is Jake living on?"
https://twitter.com/colbybadhwar/status/1775858657369948530 (https://twitter.com/colbybadhwar/status/1775858657369948530)
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Democrats are cowardly bas.tards! Democrats - fuck you!
US Congresswoman Spartz won't support Ukraine aid bill – WSJ
The Wall Street Journal has learned that Congresswoman Victoria Spartz, who was born in Ukraine, will not support the proposed US$60 billion aid package for Kyiv as she wants US President Joe Biden to provide a more straightforward strategy for US involvement in the war.
"I understand the importance of this battle and the implications if Russia is going to prevail, but I’m also not very naive. If we don’t have proper oversight, we are not going to achieve our goals," she added.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/victoria-spartz-ukraine-aid-69ef4ed1?mod=hp_lead_pos8 (https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/victoria-spartz-ukraine-aid-69ef4ed1?mod=hp_lead_pos8)
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Ukraine’s allies not giving enough air defence, minister says+100
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-allies-not-giving-enough-air-defence-minister-says-2024-04-03/ (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-allies-not-giving-enough-air-defence-minister-says-2024-04-03/)
In the cowardly and bas.tard democratic media, they constantly write that Putin said that if NATO does not stop him from killing Ukrainians, then putin will not occupy the EU countries. Democratic media tell their supporters that they need to believe what putin says, and that Biden’s policies are the most correct.
I am shocked that citizens of NATO countries do not know history. These people do not want to see 100% similarities between what happened at the beginning of the Second World War.
Democratic propaganda is evil. Democrats are friends of Russians.
Here’s what a Le Pen presidency would really mean for France — and the EU+100
https://www.politico.eu/article/france-what-le-pen-president-would-mean-eu-elections-national-rally/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/france-what-le-pen-president-would-mean-eu-elections-national-rally/)
This is exactly what the whole world thought in 1939. Many people know how it all ended, unless, of course, they studied history at school.In the cowardly and bas.tard democratic media, they constantly write that Putin said that if NATO does not stop him from killing Ukrainians, then putin will not occupy the EU countries. Democratic media tell their supporters that they need to believe what putin says, and that Biden’s policies are the most correct.
I am shocked that citizens of NATO countries do not know history. These people do not want to see 100% similarities between what happened at the beginning of the Second World War.
Democratic propaganda is evil. Democrats are friends of Russians.
… you are naive if you think that anyone in EU and USA will fight your war… ordinary people don’t wont to even think about that possibility… even people from Ukraine flee on daily basis… but, for sure they will sell you weapons and give credits as long your country have something to give…
Here’s what a Le Pen presidency would really mean for France — and the EU+100
https://www.politico.eu/article/france-what-le-pen-president-would-mean-eu-elections-national-rally/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/france-what-le-pen-president-would-mean-eu-elections-national-rally/)
Le Pen is an agent of the KGB and an agent of putin. She is no better than Merkel.
Wilm, when will you answer my question? I've been waiting for an answer from you for two days now. This is a 3rd grade elementary school level question. You don't want to say that you're still a schoolboy. Did you study history at school? I am already beginning to fear for the level of education of children in Germany.It becomes apparent that you don't realize that there is no significant difference between Le Pen and Trump.Here’s what a Le Pen presidency would really mean for France — and the EU+100
https://www.politico.eu/article/france-what-le-pen-president-would-mean-eu-elections-national-rally/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/france-what-le-pen-president-would-mean-eu-elections-national-rally/)
Le Pen is an agent of the KGB and an agent of putin. She is no better than Merkel.
Wilm, when will you answer my question? I've been waiting for an answer from you for two days now. This is a 3rd grade elementary school level question. You don't want to say that you're still a schoolboy. Did you study history at school? I am already beginning to fear for the level of education of children in Germany.It becomes apparent that you don't realize that there is no significant difference between Le Pen and Trump.Here’s what a Le Pen presidency would really mean for France — and the EU+100
https://www.politico.eu/article/france-what-le-pen-president-would-mean-eu-elections-national-rally/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/france-what-le-pen-president-would-mean-eu-elections-national-rally/)
Le Pen is an agent of the KGB and an agent of putin. She is no better than Merkel.
;D ;D ;D
There is not much difference between Le Pen and Merkel. That's for sure. But there is no 100% certainty about Le Pen yet; she was not yet in power.
Everything is very simple. My question has no hidden meaning. You write as a person who does not know when and in what year the Second World War began. When a person does not know history, he writes nonsense. Which you proved by your reluctance to answer the question (or not knowing) the answer. In a modern school history lesson, you would be given a grade of 1 point (on a 10-point system) for not knowing history and, accordingly, for the nonsense you write.Wilm, when will you answer my question? I've been waiting for an answer from you for two days now. This is a 3rd grade elementary school level question. You don't want to say that you're still a schoolboy. Did you study history at school? I am already beginning to fear for the level of education of children in Germany.It becomes apparent that you don't realize that there is no significant difference between Le Pen and Trump.Here’s what a Le Pen presidency would really mean for France — and the EU+100
https://www.politico.eu/article/france-what-le-pen-president-would-mean-eu-elections-national-rally/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/france-what-le-pen-president-would-mean-eu-elections-national-rally/)
Le Pen is an agent of the KGB and an agent of putin. She is no better than Merkel.
;D ;D ;D
There is not much difference between Le Pen and Merkel. That's for sure. But there is no 100% certainty about Le Pen yet; she was not yet in power.
Are you kidding me with your question about the beginning of the second world war? Even if I lacked any education, I could read up on it immediately.
But I suspect that you would then give me an answer that can't be found in the history books - and that's exactly what you're getting at, isn't it?
So: educate us! In your opinion, when did the Second World War begin? Let us share your knowledge that no one else has!
You can be very sure that there are very few adults in Germany who don't know when the Second World Wars took place.Well, finally write it!!!
First World War took place. This is simply due to Germany's inglorious role in war.Yes, it is a great pity that Germany then lost the First World War. It was possible to deal with the Germans then. Germany supported Ukraine as an independent state. Thanks to German military assistance, the Russians could not then occupy Ukraine and begin the genocide of the Ukrainian people.
But I can say for sure that these psychological problems are preventing you from answering my simple question that I am asking.
And I will answer you willingly, I have nothing to fear.But I can say for sure that these psychological problems are preventing you from answering my simple question that I am asking.
Honestly, the question is just too stupid for me! Wouldn't you feel like a fool if I asked you what year the Russians invaded Ukraine or whether you know who the current Ukrainian president is?
But I can say for sure that these psychological problems are preventing you from answering my simple question that I am asking.
Honestly, the question is just too stupid for me! Wouldn't you feel like a fool if I asked you what year the Russians invaded Ukraine or whether you know who the current Ukrainian president is?
Only a person who does not know history and does not know when the Second World War began can say this.
That’s why I want to hear from you the year the Second World War began.
I wrote a few days ago that you look like a person who doesn’t know history. That's why I asked you one question. But judging by the lack of response from you, you really don’t know history well.But I can say for sure that these psychological problems are preventing you from answering my simple question that I am asking.
Honestly, the question is just too stupid for me! Wouldn't you feel like a fool if I asked you what year the Russians invaded Ukraine or whether you know who the current Ukrainian president is?
Only a person who does not know history and does not know when the Second World War began can say this.
That’s why I want to hear from you the year the Second World War began.
You see, I knew that your question was a decoy to present your own opinion here.
So I don't know when either the Second or the Third World War started.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)Yes, some Ukrainians fought for the independence of Ukraine as part of the German troops. But this division was quickly defeated in the first battle. The balance of power was unequal. The USSR then received military assistance from the United States.
Ukraine faces key battle in Chasiv Yar, a 'door' to Donbasrussia occupies 1/6 of the earth's landmass. 140 million people live on the territory of this empire. But the Russian army of orcs only knows how to fight women and children. Russians can only advance in one direction, and that is Chasiv Yar. Chasiv Yar is the height from which the Ukrainian Armed Forces successfully eliminate Russians every day. If there are no problems with shells, and the Russians crawl under Ukrainian artillery like zombies, then there will be no problems with maintaining this height. Now there are shells, enough to eliminate the Russians in Chasiv Yar.
https://www.rfi.fr/en/international-news/20240406-ukraine-faces-key-battle-in-chasiv-yar-a-door-to-donbas (https://www.rfi.fr/en/international-news/20240406-ukraine-faces-key-battle-in-chasiv-yar-a-door-to-donbas)
I wrote a few days ago that you look like a person who doesn’t know history. That's why I asked you one question. But judging by the lack of response from you, you really don’t know history well.But I can say for sure that these psychological problems are preventing you from answering my simple question that I am asking.
Honestly, the question is just too stupid for me! Wouldn't you feel like a fool if I asked you what year the Russians invaded Ukraine or whether you know who the current Ukrainian president is?
Only a person who does not know history and does not know when the Second World War began can say this.
That’s why I want to hear from you the year the Second World War began.
You see, I knew that your question was a decoy to present your own opinion here.
So I don't know when either the Second or the Third World War started.
In any case, you now know what knowledge gaps you need to fill. ;D ;D ;D
… so those were only independence fighters, ordinary dresses without ideology…?! :) you are totally spinning all facts, bit I’m still not sure why…https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)Yes, some Ukrainians fought for the independence of Ukraine as part of the German troops. But this division was quickly defeated in the first battle. The balance of power was unequal. The USSR then received military assistance from the United States.
… so those were only independence fighters, ordinary dresses without ideology…?! :) you are totally spinning all facts, bit I’m still not sure why…https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)Yes, some Ukrainians fought for the independence of Ukraine as part of the German troops. But this division was quickly defeated in the first battle. The balance of power was unequal. The USSR then received military assistance from the United States.
You obviously don't understand the difference between "crisis" and "war".Oh yes, they like to repeat this phrase in the Europarasite media, calling the war in Ukraine a crisis. Merkel taught this to the EU.
According to the definition of international law, there is no basis whatsoever to speak of a third world war, in particular the "animus belligerandi" is missing here.Where did you read this nonsense? ;D
So it is a fact, without any discussion, that the the Second World War began on September 1, 1939, when Germany, led by Adolf Hitler, invaded Poland. This invasion prompted Britain and France to declare war on Germany on September 3, 1939, marking the beginning of the global conflict.Bingo! Well, at least one German named the year the Second World War began. For the school level, the answer is correct!
Signs or Omen of a possible war, which ultimately can only ever be retroactively proven as such, are by definition not a state of war.I already realized that the Europarasites will wait many years for historians to finally tell them what it was like in Europe. War or Ukrainian crisis? German media presenting you Russian propaganda
Obviously you are to stupid for the question.
What do you want to know? And why are you even asking? I answered your question about history. Do you want me to evaluate those people who fought in this division? What is the point of your questions? ;D… so those were only independence fighters, ordinary dresses without ideology…?! :) you are totally spinning all facts, bit I’m still not sure why…https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)Yes, some Ukrainians fought for the independence of Ukraine as part of the German troops. But this division was quickly defeated in the first battle. The balance of power was unequal. The USSR then received military assistance from the United States.
This does not change the essence of the fact that the third world war is underway.
Where is here?This does not change the essence of the fact that the third world war is underway.So far you have claimed that the third world war is already here. But now it's not. Interesting.
Incidentally, the assumption that a third world war could be coming is not a fact. It is only a fact when it actually happens.When a person does not know history, does not understand what is happening in the world and reads only propaganda, this is exactly the conclusion he draws. This is how propaganda works. Propaganda influences illiterate people.
Your description of 1938 is wrong.::) ::) ::)
There was no occupation in the true sense of the word.
In order to avoid war, England and France pursued a policy of appeasement, culminating in the Munich Agreement of September 29, 1938, which sealed the cession of the Sudetenland to Germany.
This is precisely why historians do not regard this date as the beginning of the Second World War but the attack on Poland 1939. Because the latter corresponds to the definition of war in international law.It is obvious that you have only read Wikipedia, amateur material. ;D
Also interesting that you imagine you know what I do for a living. I don't work in a hospital, I didn't just study medicine and I work as a court expert, among other things. Yes, I can read legal texts.Court expert prescribe drugs to people?
You obviously don't understand the difference between "crisis" and "war".Oh yes, they like to repeat this phrase in the Europarasite media, calling the war in Ukraine a crisis. Merkel taught this to the EU.According to the definition of international law, there is no basis whatsoever to speak of a third world war, in particular the "animus belligerandi" is missing here.Where did you read this nonsense? ;D
Or maybe the doctor has already become a lawyer? ;D
Well, tell historians that the Second World War did not begin in 1939, following your logic.So it is a fact, without any discussion, that the the Second World War began on September 1, 1939, when Germany, led by Adolf Hitler, invaded Poland. This invasion prompted Britain and France to declare war on Germany on September 3, 1939, marking the beginning of the global conflict.Bingo! Well, at least one German named the year the Second World War began. For the school level, the answer is correct!
For the higher education institution level, the answer is not correct enough. The Second World War began in 1938 (with the German occupation of part of Czechoslovakia).
But okay, let’s take 1939 as a basis, not everyone here obviously graduated from a higher education institution.
I answer and draw analogies:
1. The Russian occupation of Crimea and several regions of Ukraine is an analogue of Czechoslovakia and Poland.
2. France and Britain were not actively fighting, they were simply trying to hold the line of defense.
3. China, Iran, North Korea and Balarus supply weapons to Russia. Countries of the democratic world supply weapons to Ukraine. Economic sanctions have been introduced. This is all much more serious than even 1939.
The fact that Ukraine does not surrender like Poland in a few days only shows that Ukrainians are warriors and not cowards. This does not change the essence of the fact that the third world war is underway.Signs or Omen of a possible war, which ultimately can only ever be retroactively proven as such, are by definition not a state of war.I already realized that the Europarasites will wait many years for historians to finally tell them what it was like in Europe. War or Ukrainian crisis? German media presenting you Russian propaganda
Obviously you are to stupid for the question.
;D ;D ;D
Incidentally, you argue about the Third World War in exactly the same way as the Russian propagandist Vladimir Solovyov.I'm not surprised by your sources of information. It is now clear who you are listening to or reading.
Support your unsubstantiated claims with link
Incidentally, you argue about the Third World War in exactly the same way as the Russian propagandist Vladimir Solovyov.I'm not surprised by your sources of information. It is now clear who you are listening to or reading.
;D ;D ;D
Your argument is simply off the charts. Compare me with putin, Hitler, Musolini...Incidentally, you argue about the Third World War in exactly the same way as the Russian propagandist Vladimir Solovyov.I'm not surprised by your sources of information. It is now clear who you are listening to or reading.
;D ;D ;D
The difference between you and me:
Your opinion is congruent with that of the Russian propaganda machine. Mine is not.
Your drain is counted.Support your unsubstantiated claims with linkNo, but a narcissist is not worth more effort to me. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Former U.S. President Donald Trump has privately said he could end Russia’s war by pressuring Ukraine to cede Crimea and Donbas to Moscow, the Washington Post reported on April 7, citing sources.1. Zero Talent, what is your IQ? ;D
https://kyivindependent.com/wp-trump-privately-said-he-could-pressure-ukraine-to-concede-crimea-donbas-to-russia/
This is so obvious for anyone with an IQ>85
Only putin's useful idiots believe that the moron and his maga cult would save Ukraine.
.... see above.Why are you creating uninformative messages? ;D
Your argument is simply off the charts. Compare me with putin, Hitler, Musolini...Incidentally, you argue about the Third World War in exactly the same way as the Russian propagandist Vladimir Solovyov.I'm not surprised by your sources of information. It is now clear who you are listening to or reading.
;D ;D ;D
The difference between you and me:
Your opinion is congruent with that of the Russian propaganda machine. Mine is not.
If you do not see the difference between what I write and Russian propaganda, this is entirely your personal problem.
Former U.S. President Donald Trump has privately said he could end Russia’s war by pressuring Ukraine to cede Crimea and Donbas to Moscow, the Washington Post reported on April 7, citing sources.1. Zero Talent, what is your IQ? ;D
https://kyivindependent.com/wp-trump-privately-said-he-could-pressure-ukraine-to-concede-crimea-donbas-to-russia/
This is so obvious for anyone with an IQ>85
Only putin's useful idiots believe that the moron and his maga cult would save Ukraine.
2. The sources of this newspaper are not known, named or trustworthy.
3. This all looks like propaganda from the Democrats and Russians against Trump.
4. The Russians annexed part of the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions. They won't want to leave there voluntarily. These are the facts.
5. Trump, as a non-official, can say whatever he wants as long as he does not violate US criminal law.
6. Trump before the presidency and Trump as president will be completely different people. The position obliges him, and the information he will receive from the CIA.
7. Trump does not solve such issues. There must be congressional support in the US.
8. Ukraine will not agree to such proposals.
NATO Secretary General says Ukraine will have to decide which compromises it will accept in war with Russia https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/6/7450046/index.amp (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/6/7450046/index.amp)You started reading Ukrainian media, that’s good. ;D
Your texts about politics are at the level of 3-5 class of primary school. I always read your speculations with a smile. But it's not bad. A lot of people have never been interested in politics or history. This is how people live in democratic countries.Your argument is simply off the charts. Compare me with putin, Hitler, Musolini...Incidentally, you argue about the Third World War in exactly the same way as the Russian propagandist Vladimir Solovyov.I'm not surprised by your sources of information. It is now clear who you are listening to or reading.
;D ;D ;D
The difference between you and me:
Your opinion is congruent with that of the Russian propaganda machine. Mine is not.
If you do not see the difference between what I write and Russian propaganda, this is entirely your personal problem.
The fact remains that your opinions that the Third World War has already begun coincide with those of Vladimir Solovyov - and mine do not. Readers will form their own judgment.
If I were you, however, it would give me pause for thought that your opinion coincides with that of a full-blooded Russian propagandist. Perhaps you could just think about it...
Right, right, now even The Kyiv Independent is spreading propaganda from the Democrats!Of course, the Ukrainian media publishes what is written in influential US newspapers. To understand what is written, a person must have knowledge. Therefore, people who want to understand the essence of what is happening turn to the help of experts. The expert’s task is to explain to people the essence of what is happening. At this forum, so far I am the only one acting as such an expert. If someone better comes along, I will gladly give up this place.
Right, right, now even The Kyiv Independent is spreading propaganda from the Democrats!Of course, the Ukrainian media publishes what is written in influential US newspapers. To understand what is written, a person must have knowledge. Therefore, people who want to understand the essence of what is happening turn to the help of experts. The expert’s task is to explain to people the essence of what is happening. At this forum, so far I am the only one acting as such an expert. If someone better comes along, I will gladly give up this place.
You still haven't answered the question what is your IQ? ;D ;D ;D
As Ukraine’s Missiles Run Low, Russian Attack Pilots Are Pushing Closer To The Front Line—And Rocketing Ukrainian Troops
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/08/as-ukraines-missiles-run-low-russian-attack-pilots-are-pushing-closer-to-the-front-line-and-rocketing-ukrainian-troops/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/08/as-ukraines-missiles-run-low-russian-attack-pilots-are-pushing-closer-to-the-front-line-and-rocketing-ukrainian-troops/?sh=7787129c749a)
For putin's useful idiots, when the exact same media is criticizing the current administration, they are telling the truth.I don’t know any media in the US that criticize Biden and the Democrats. Indicate these media in this thread, unless of course you are a Russian useful idiot. ;D
As Ukraine’s Missiles Run Low, Russian Attack Pilots Are Pushing Closer To The Front Line—And Rocketing Ukrainian TroopsThis is the result of the rule of Biden and the US Democrats. Ukraine was not provided with F16 aircraft and was not provided with the required quantity of Patriot complexes. The aid from the Democrats, which the Republicans are blocking, does not have all this either.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/08/as-ukraines-missiles-run-low-russian-attack-pilots-are-pushing-closer-to-the-front-line-and-rocketing-ukrainian-troops/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/08/as-ukraines-missiles-run-low-russian-attack-pilots-are-pushing-closer-to-the-front-line-and-rocketing-ukrainian-troops/?sh=7787129c749a)
New Footage Shows Su-34s Drop Thermobaric Glide Bombs on Ukrainian Forces: ’Vacuum’ Weapons Target Forces in CoverThis is Russian propaganda. These bombs have no accuracy. Everything written in this article is a lie. The accuracy of these bombs has an error of several kilometers. The situation is not critical at all.
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/footage-su34s-thermobaric-ukrainian-vacuum (https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/footage-su34s-thermobaric-ukrainian-vacuum)
For putin's useful idiots, when the exact same media is criticizing the current administration, they are telling the truth.I don’t know any media in the US that criticize Biden and the Democrats. Indicate these media in this thread, unless of course you are a Russian useful idiot. ;D
Ukraine’s Lack of Weaponry and Training Risks Stalemate in Fight With Russia
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia-f51ecf9?fbclid=IwAR0CDINKl65bbsuKVcQ8h28b44MWjCUsJ6-XH6OiLBvljNTmYMMGIxcQdf8 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia-f51ecf9?fbclid=IwAR0CDINKl65bbsuKVcQ8h28b44MWjCUsJ6-XH6OiLBvljNTmYMMGIxcQdf8)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia/ar-AA1edW4t (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia/ar-AA1edW4t)
The article criticizes Biden's policies.
Ithink as an expert, I’m doing a good job on this topic.
Yes, the word expert does not sound familiar, but what I do is called the work of an expert. That's what it's called.
I think your IQ is very low if you think that The Wall Street Journal is a publication opposed to US Democrats.____For putin's useful idiots, when the exact same media is criticizing the current administration, they are telling the truth.I don’t know any media in the US that criticize Biden and the Democrats. Indicate these media in this thread, unless of course you are a Russian useful idiot. ;DUkraine’s Lack of Weaponry and Training Risks Stalemate in Fight With Russia
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia-f51ecf9?fbclid=IwAR0CDINKl65bbsuKVcQ8h28b44MWjCUsJ6-XH6OiLBvljNTmYMMGIxcQdf8 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia-f51ecf9?fbclid=IwAR0CDINKl65bbsuKVcQ8h28b44MWjCUsJ6-XH6OiLBvljNTmYMMGIxcQdf8)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia/ar-AA1edW4t (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia/ar-AA1edW4t)
The article criticizes Biden's policies.
It is also known that people with IQ below 85 (putin's useful idiots among them) live in a permanent present. The past and the future are a nebula and I cannot see determination.
However, I agree with you on one point: Ukraine needs ammunition and, above all, patriots. It would be good if the EU could fill the current hole created by the Trumpists.1. There is no need to discuss a person’s personal qualities; there are no ideal people. All people have their shortcomings.
The Wall Street Journal is a publication opposed to US Democrats.
Yes, I quote some articles from American newspapers and characterize what is written there. If I wrote that the article is critical, it is because I gave an explanation of why it is critical. The authors of the article did not write it as critical. Such articles are intended for a wide audience that does not understand the causes and consequences.The Wall Street Journal is a publication opposed to US Democrats.
Oh no! You asked me to name a US media outlet that is criticizing Biden, after you named two of them yourself without even realizing it.
But as we all know you are an expert at swallowing your words without being able to understand them.
Can you please continue to swallow your words even more and name the plethora of Washington Post articles you quoted and endorsed in this thread?
Yes, I quote some articles from American newspapers and characterize what is written there. If I wrote that the article is critical, it is because I gave an explanation of why it is critical. The authors of the article did not write it as critical. Such articles are intended for a wide audience that does not understand the causes and consequences.The Wall Street Journal is a publication opposed to US Democrats.
Oh no! You asked me to name a US media outlet that is criticizing Biden, after you named two of them yourself without even realizing it.
But as we all know you are an expert at swallowing your words without being able to understand them.
Can you please continue to swallow your words even more and name the plethora of Washington Post articles you quoted and endorsed in this thread?
1. I do not spread Democratic propaganda, I write that it is propaganda and explain why.Yes, I quote some articles from American newspapers and characterize what is written there. If I wrote that the article is critical, it is because I gave an explanation of why it is critical. The authors of the article did not write it as critical. Such articles are intended for a wide audience that does not understand the causes and consequences.The Wall Street Journal is a publication opposed to US Democrats.
Oh no! You asked me to name a US media outlet that is criticizing Biden, after you named two of them yourself without even realizing it.
But as we all know you are an expert at swallowing your words without being able to understand them.
Can you please continue to swallow your words even more and name the plethora of Washington Post articles you quoted and endorsed in this thread?
Let me clarify for you what you just admitted: you are spreading Democrats’ propaganda by quoting media outlets that are spreading Democrats’ propaganda.
Also, based on your own admission, you already knew that at least two media outlets (WSJ and MSN) criticized Biden (btw, there are many more), but since you only live in the present, today you claimed there are none.
It's disheartening to observe how individuals with IQs below 85 perpetually reside in the present moment. The past and future remain nebulous to them, rendering them incapable of formulating coherent, deterministic thoughts.
However, I agree with you on one point: Ukraine needs ammunition and, above all, patriots. It would be good if the EU could fill the current hole created by the Trumpists.1. There is no need to discuss a person’s personal qualities; there are no ideal people. All people have their shortcomings.
2. The EU should have been involved in the supply of large quantities of weapons to Ukraine a long time ago. I see that you understand this.
3. Ukraine also needs at least 64 F16 this year and 150-200 F16 in 2025. Without gaining air superiority, Ukraine will only be on the defensive. Defense means murder and genocide of civilians by Russian Na.zis.
But in my view, weapons for attacking Russian territory must not be supplied. Absolutely not! You can be absolutely sure that this will not happen under the Democrats, nor under the Republicans, no matter how much you hope it will.This is not your opinion, but what your media tells you.
You cannot know what the Republican policy will be. :)
… do you really think that anyone have that much jets for Ukraine and just waits to give them to Ukraine…?! That will be just a fiasco, if not operated by long perion trained pilots from west… and that will leed to something much bigger and can provoke more agressive reaction… your realiity is totally insane, if you count on hundreds of F16s… why not better asking F35s, thousands of them…?! That will change your war for sure…However, I agree with you on one point: Ukraine needs ammunition and, above all, patriots. It would be good if the EU could fill the current hole created by the Trumpists.1. There is no need to discuss a person’s personal qualities; there are no ideal people. All people have their shortcomings.
2. The EU should have been involved in the supply of large quantities of weapons to Ukraine a long time ago. I see that you understand this.
3. Ukraine also needs at least 64 F16 this year and 150-200 F16 in 2025. Without gaining air superiority, Ukraine will only be on the defensive. Defense means murder and genocide of civilians by Russian Na.zis.
You are not aware of the issue, and completely unaware.… do you really think that anyone have that much jets for Ukraine and just waits to give them to Ukraine…?! That will be just a fiasco, if not operated by long perion trained pilots from west… and that will leed to something much bigger and can provoke more agressive reaction… your realiity is totally insane, if you count on hundreds of F16s… why not better asking F35s, thousands of them…?! That will change your war for sure…However, I agree with you on one point: Ukraine needs ammunition and, above all, patriots. It would be good if the EU could fill the current hole created by the Trumpists.1. There is no need to discuss a person’s personal qualities; there are no ideal people. All people have their shortcomings.
2. The EU should have been involved in the supply of large quantities of weapons to Ukraine a long time ago. I see that you understand this.
3. Ukraine also needs at least 64 F16 this year and 150-200 F16 in 2025. Without gaining air superiority, Ukraine will only be on the defensive. Defense means murder and genocide of civilians by Russian Na.zis.
For the sake of accuracy, 2,145 F-16s are operational across the world. See page 10 of this report:You are not aware of the issue, and completely unaware.… do you really think that anyone have that much jets for Ukraine and just waits to give them to Ukraine…?! That will be just a fiasco, if not operated by long perion trained pilots from west… and that will leed to something much bigger and can provoke more agressive reaction… your realiity is totally insane, if you count on hundreds of F16s… why not better asking F35s, thousands of them…?! That will change your war for sure…However, I agree with you on one point: Ukraine needs ammunition and, above all, patriots. It would be good if the EU could fill the current hole created by the Trumpists.1. There is no need to discuss a person’s personal qualities; there are no ideal people. All people have their shortcomings.
2. The EU should have been involved in the supply of large quantities of weapons to Ukraine a long time ago. I see that you understand this.
3. Ukraine also needs at least 64 F16 this year and 150-200 F16 in 2025. Without gaining air superiority, Ukraine will only be on the defensive. Defense means murder and genocide of civilians by Russian Na.zis.
About 5 thousand F16 were produced.
… I don’t understand why do you hate Russian people…?!??? ::) ::) ::)
EU court removes Russian oligarchs Fridman, Aven from sanctions listEuroparasites break through the bottom. >:(
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-court-removes-russian-oligarchs-mikhail-fridman-petr-aven-from-sanctions-list/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-court-removes-russian-oligarchs-mikhail-fridman-petr-aven-from-sanctions-list/)
… looks like times are changing…EU court removes Russian oligarchs Fridman, Aven from sanctions listEuroparasites break through the bottom. >:(
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-court-removes-russian-oligarchs-mikhail-fridman-petr-aven-from-sanctions-list/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-court-removes-russian-oligarchs-mikhail-fridman-petr-aven-from-sanctions-list/)
Zelenskyy blasts Scholz’s reason for not sending German Taurus missiles"“I always use logic in my steps, in my words and conclusions,” he said. “And I just don't understand the logic behind it when, for example, one of our partners has weapons that Ukraine needs today in order to survive. And I don't understand why they won't provide it to us.”"
https://www.politico.eu/article/zelenskyy-blasts-scholzs-reason-for-not-sending-german-taurus-missiles/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/zelenskyy-blasts-scholzs-reason-for-not-sending-german-taurus-missiles/)
Europarasites have always been like this.… looks like times are changing…EU court removes Russian oligarchs Fridman, Aven from sanctions listEuroparasites break through the bottom. >:(
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-court-removes-russian-oligarchs-mikhail-fridman-petr-aven-from-sanctions-list/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-court-removes-russian-oligarchs-mikhail-fridman-petr-aven-from-sanctions-list/)
A group of Ukrainian refugees, dissatisfied with the Polish authorities' policy of supplying Ukrainian goods and weak military aid, organized an act of retaliation and set fire to the Farmacol pharmaceutical warehouse in Katowice on the evening of April 8I think this is KGB propaganda. The source is not trustworthy.
https://pravda-en.com/world/2024/04/10/422022.html
… why you think about them as parasites if you are asking help…?!I write the truth, and only the truth.
… and this…?!This is a Russian Na.zi channel. Everything that is published there is lies and propaganda.
https://t.me/vorposte/54830
… have you ever been in Lavov…?!… and this…?!This is a Russian Na.zi channel. Everything that is published there is lies and propaganda.
https://t.me/vorposte/54830
There is no city with this name in Ukraine.… have you ever been in Lavov…?!… and this…?!This is a Russian Na.zi channel. Everything that is published there is lies and propaganda.
https://t.me/vorposte/54830
Russians intensify attacks on Bakhmut front, with 36 combat clashes there – Ukraine's General StaffHave you decided to publish daily reports of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine here?
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/10/7450522/index.amp (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/10/7450522/index.amp)
Michael Bulgakov
Mikhail Afanasyevich Bulgakov, a Russian writer of the Soviet period, playwright, theater director and actor, said the following:
Not the people, but brute, boor, a wild horde, murderers and villains - Mikhail Bulgakov.
"Bulgakov (The Master and Margarita)"
This is a shame for Ukraine. It is not read in Ukraine. Only Russian orcs read it. He is a traitor of the Ukrainian literature.
1. I quote the opinions of Russian writers about the Russians themselves.
Michael Bulgakov
Mikhail Afanasyevich Bulgakov, a Russian writer of the Soviet period, playwright, theater director and actor, said the following:
Not the people, but brute, boor, a wild horde, murderers and villains - Mikhail Bulgakov.
You said you don't read the Ukrainian "traitor" Bulgakov, and now you are quoting him."Bulgakov (The Master and Margarita)"
This is a shame for Ukraine. It is not read in Ukraine. Only Russian orcs read it. He is a traitor of the Ukrainian literature.
… and now he doesn’t know even about cities in Ukraine, while being selective in answers…I can recommend that you come to Ukraine and try to walk through the streets wearing Na.zi symbols. ;D ;D ;D
With recruits dwindling, Ukraine is urged to mobilise women - The TimesThis is all lies, nonsense and reeks of pro-Russian propaganda.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/with-recruits-dwindling-ukraine-urged-to-mobilise-women-6bz929qvq (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/with-recruits-dwindling-ukraine-urged-to-mobilise-women-6bz929qvq)
Interesting plot twist! So Bulgakov is read in Ukraine after all, by what I assume are not russian orcs, right? You swallowed your words again.1. I quote the opinions of Russian writers about the Russians themselves.
Michael Bulgakov
Mikhail Afanasyevich Bulgakov, a Russian writer of the Soviet period, playwright, theater director and actor, said the following:
Not the people, but brute, boor, a wild horde, murderers and villains - Mikhail Bulgakov.
You said you don't read the Ukrainian "traitor" Bulgakov, and now you are quoting him."Bulgakov (The Master and Margarita)"
This is a shame for Ukraine. It is not read in Ukraine. Only Russian orcs read it. He is a traitor of the Ukrainian literature.
2. I didn’t write that I personally haven’t read Bulgakov. You need to know your enemies, so I had to read.
So Bulgakov is read in Ukraine after allNo.
Moreover, now you even trust and promote russian writers and Ukrainian "traitors".No.
David Cameron seemingly fails in bid to persuade Trump on Ukraine aidHe doesn't need to convince Trump, but Biden. For Biden to provide a clear plan to help Ukraine and justify what weapons are needed for this. There is no need to steal US taxpayers' money for unknown purposes.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/09/david-cameron-trump-ukraine-aid
… just for standard, known purposes… :)David Cameron seemingly fails in bid to persuade Trump on Ukraine aidHe doesn't need to convince Trump, but Biden. For Biden to provide a clear plan to help Ukraine and justify what weapons are needed for this. There is no need to steal US taxpayers' money for unknown purposes.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/09/david-cameron-trump-ukraine-aid
So Bulgakov is read in Ukraine after allNo.
Zero Talent, I see no point in commenting on your trolling. Every day you strain yourself and try to squeeze out trolling. You already sound very funny and don't look smart.
I already wrote to you that I prefer constructive dialogue.
As for me personally, I also read Hitler in my time.
Ukrainians do read Bulgakov, and they even use his words to make a point.???
Ukrainians do read Bulgakov, and they even use his words to make a point.???
Why did you decide so? I didn't say that. ;D ;D ;D
2. I didn’t write that I personally haven’t read Bulgakov. You need to know your enemies, so I had to read.
Your logic is complete ravings. ;DUkrainians do read Bulgakov, and they even use his words to make a point.???
Why did you decide so? I didn't say that. ;D ;D ;D
Read below 👇, but read carefully, and try to understand what a self proclaimed "representative" Ukrainian wrote a few hours ago;2. I didn’t write that I personally haven’t read Bulgakov. You need to know your enemies, so I had to read.
Your logic is complete ravings. ;DUkrainians do read Bulgakov, and they even use his words to make a point.???
Why did you decide so? I didn't say that. ;D ;D ;D
Read below 👇, but read carefully, and try to understand what a self proclaimed "representative" Ukrainian wrote a few hours ago;2. I didn’t write that I personally haven’t read Bulgakov. You need to know your enemies, so I had to read.
I recommend that you visit a psychiatrist. ;D ;D ;D
Russians intensify attacks on Bakhmut front, with 36 combat clashes there – Ukraine's General Staff
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/10/7450522/index.amp (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/10/7450522/index.amp)
I don't agree with a lot of what stocker2014 writes either. Especially not with his black and white thinking.
But Russia attacked Ukraine and not the other way around! That's why I also disagree with a large part of your posts!
Bulgakov was born in Kiev and he wrote one of the most highly acclaimed books of the 20th century, The Master and Margarita. Am I missing something?
Interestingly though, as befitting this thread, he did have a very relevant quote:
There is no greater misfortune in the world than the loss of reason. ~ Mikhail Bulgakov
;)
If Ukrainians don't read Bulgakov, but stocker2014 has read Bulgakov, he can't be Ukrainian. This is simple logic that must be immediately clear to all readers and especially to someone who claims to have studied mathematics.This is wretched and primitive logic. It is not surprising to hear this from a person who could not answer the question in what year the Second World War began.
Not the people, but brute, boor, a wild horde, murderers and villainsYes, US Democratic trolls don't like to read the truth. You don’t agree with this phrase and the description of Russians?
Bulgakov was born in Kiev and he wrote one of the most highly acclaimed books of the 20th century, The Master and Margarita. Am I missing something?
Interestingly though, as befitting this thread, he did have a very relevant quote:
There is no greater misfortune in the world than the loss of reason. ~ Mikhail Bulgakov
;)
Bulgakov was mentioned earlier in this thread, and yesterday, stoker attributed him a quote describing russians in a negative way:
Not the people, but brute, boor, a wild horde, murderers and villains
Since he is renegaded by Ukrainians for his pro-russian and anti-Ukrainian stances, all this looked strange to me.
What was also strange is that on March 8th, I received a WhatsApp message containing exactly the same quotes and a few more. The message was forwarded multiple times, and it was not in English. Someone actually did a pretty good job with a translation for a different audience.
So I tried to search for the origin of Bulgakov's quote, but I didn't find it.
What I found was an article claiming that all quotes were made up or taken out of context.
Therefore, it is hard to know the truth, and this viral list may very well be a clever piece of propaganda.
This is why I would challenge our expert in russian literature to share the origin of those quotes—the book, newspaper article, etc.
Meanwhile, we should all take all of that with a grain of salt.
Not the people, but brute, boor, a wild horde, murderers and villainsYes, US Democratic trolls don't like to read the truth. You don’t agree with this phrase and the description of Russians?
This is not surprising, the democrat trolls deny reality and are friends of the Russian trolls.
;D ;D ;D
Bulgakov ... he nor ... were ever Ukrainophobe,It's a lie.
“Bulgakov did not believe in the reality of an independent Ukraine, like quite a lot of people at that time.”'[/i]The underlined is a lie and Russian propaganda.
I am pro-Ukraine but I guess the question remains, can great art or literature survive changes in time and politics?His books will be used to kindle stoves, like many other books by Russian authors. If a Ukrainian respects himself, he will not read books by a Russian writer.
Your text meets all the requirements of Russian propaganda. This is exactly what all Russian putin trolls write. If the Russians are not paying you yet, contact them, you are losing money. Why are you working for Russian Na.zis for free?Not the people, but brute, boor, a wild horde, murderers and villainsYes, US Democratic trolls don't like to read the truth. You don’t agree with this phrase and the description of Russians?
This is not surprising, the democrat trolls deny reality and are friends of the Russian trolls.
;D ;D ;D
It's not about agreeing or disagreeing with the description.
It's about truth and logic.
It's about you being unable to grasp elementary logic.
It's about you being caught again with your pants down, in public.
I can't know for sure, but it is quite plausible that your list of quotes is fake, given the fact that it spreads in the same form in different languages across social media.
Whoever gave you that list disguised their opinions as quotes from famous Russian writers to make them seem more credible.
Bulgakov and others on that list never said what you, in your gullibility, attributed to them.
I can bet that you will be unable to show us the origin of their so-called "quotes" because they do not exist. They're most likely fake, made up, fake news, propaganda...
A bit of advice: If you can't think for yourself, stick to journalism from reputable sources. Don't post viral social media "news" unless you want to continue confirming your IQ level.
Your text meets all the requirements of Russian propaganda. This is exactly what all Russian putin trolls write. If the Russians are not paying you yet, contact them, you are losing money. Why are you working for Russian Na.zis for free?Not the people, but brute, boor, a wild horde, murderers and villainsYes, US Democratic trolls don't like to read the truth. You don’t agree with this phrase and the description of Russians?
This is not surprising, the democrat trolls deny reality and are friends of the Russian trolls.
;D ;D ;D
It's not about agreeing or disagreeing with the description.
It's about truth and logic.
It's about you being unable to grasp elementary logic.
It's about you being caught again with your pants down, in public.
I can't know for sure, but it is quite plausible that your list of quotes is fake, given the fact that it spreads in the same form in different languages across social media.
Whoever gave you that list disguised their opinions as quotes from famous Russian writers to make them seem more credible.
Bulgakov and others on that list never said what you, in your gullibility, attributed to them.
I can bet that you will be unable to show us the origin of their so-called "quotes" because they do not exist. They're most likely fake, made up, fake news, propaganda...
A bit of advice: If you can't think for yourself, stick to journalism from reputable sources. Don't post viral social media "news" unless you want to continue confirming your IQ level.
;D ;D ;D
Although perhaps the Democrats pay you well and have given you the task of defending Russian Na.zis.
You have no arguments, which means you are a troll.
Zero Talent, you will not find this text in Ukrainian language.
I’ll give you the link right away on Lermontov:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewell,_Unwashed_Russia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewell,_Unwashed_Russia)
"In the 20th century, the poem received a rise in popularity.[14] A number of literary critics have expressed doubts about the authorship of the poem.[15][16][17][18] In 2017, an international round table dedicated to the issue of authorship was assembled, which included more than twenty leading Lermontovedians. As a result of the round table, a resolution was adopted that confirmed the authorship.[19][20][21]"
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I also want to say that Russian orcs will deny the involvement of their writers in such texts. But the behavior of Russians over the past few hundred years leaves no doubt that these statements are true.
Because that list is most likely fake, made-up, unnecessary propaganda targeting gullible people.I wrote that you are a good lawyer for Russian orcs. What you do is called the work of a lawyer. But as we all know, very often a lawyer defends evil and lies.
Because that list is most likely fake, made-up, unnecessary propaganda targeting gullible people.I wrote that you are a good lawyer for Russian orcs. What you do is called the work of a lawyer. But as we all know, very often a lawyer defends evil and lies.
Regarding all these true quotes about Russians, if you need proof, contact the Russian opposition if you find normal Russians among them. Contact these people who have not only the works of the authors, but also the correspondence of these authors and the statements of witnesses who communicated with these authors.
I see that you have already read a lot of Russian propaganda, where the Russians deny everything.
All these quotes truthfully reflect Russians and this is how Russians should be understood and seen.
These quotes true about Russians. I will repeat my post for readers once again.
And even if no one knew these quotes, any Ukrainian will tell you the same thing about Russians. And not only Ukrainians, but also any people who are or were under Russian occupation.
I have donated my own money to Ukrainian causeshttps://prytulafoundation.org/en/
Wrong. I only defend the truth.
I am 100% behind Ukraine in its struggle to repel the unprovoked russian invasion.
I have donated my own money to Ukrainian causes, and I believe that all democratic countries, including the US, must do more to support Ukraine's attempt to recover its lost territories, including Crimea.
But Ukraine doesn't have to use propaganda to gather this support. It is counterproductive. The truth is enough.
As for these fake quotes, you can always post them as your personal opinion. I can definitely understand the anger, but please don't lie that they belong to those russian writers.
I've put the guy on "ignore" and left the discussion with him personally.Great, at least there’s one less hater.
Zero Talent!
1. You are not 100% sure that these quotes do not belong to these authors. So stop defending the Russians.
My sources of information are normal. I read these authors, the writing style was followed. If you want to be a journalist, contact experts to show you paper media. Demanding on a forum so that you publications published 100 or more years ago is stupid and smacks of trolling in support of the Russians.Zero Talent!
1. You are not 100% sure that these quotes do not belong to these authors. So stop defending the Russians.
Of course, I can't be 100% sure because I haven't read all of these authors, and I could not find the above-mentioned quotes anywhere.
But neither did you, obviously. You have no proof that these quotes are real, and yet you have no problem publishing unverified information.
Once more, I am not defending the russians; I am defending the truth. You better do the same if you don't want to lose whatever is left of your credibility.
My advice: Stick to sources that can be verified, sources from reputable, trustworthy journalists, or restrict yourself to your own opinions without attributing them to someone else.
My donations go to Nova Ukraine: https://novaukraine.org/
My sources of information are normal. I read these authors, the writing style was followed. If you want to be a journalist, contact experts to show you paper media. Demanding on a forum so that you publications published 100 or more years ago is stupid and smacks of trolling in support of the Russians.Zero Talent!
1. You are not 100% sure that these quotes do not belong to these authors. So stop defending the Russians.
Of course, I can't be 100% sure because I haven't read all of these authors, and I could not find the above-mentioned quotes anywhere.
But neither did you, obviously. You have no proof that these quotes are real, and yet you have no problem publishing unverified information.
Once more, I am not defending the russians; I am defending the truth. You better do the same if you don't want to lose whatever is left of your credibility.
My advice: Stick to sources that can be verified, sources from reputable, trustworthy journalists, or restrict yourself to your own opinions without attributing them to someone else.
My donations go to Nova Ukraine: https://novaukraine.org/
Your opinion of me doesn't matter to me. Thousands of people besides you are reading this topic, but you are the only one doing trolling.
novaukraine something small, I’ve never heard of it. The Pritula Foundation is a well-known and trusted organization in Ukraine.
Zero Talent!
1. There cannot be public access to the works of authors.
2. Such works can be found on pirated sites, but Google does not search for them.
3. Not all of the authors’ works have been translated into English, and many have not been translated or digitized.
4. Nobody digitizes letters from authors.
5. I do not give away my sources of information.
6. Your opinion about me does not interest me. It's enough that I consider you a troll.
And I already said that if the digitization is done by the Russians, it means under the control of the KGB, which means you won’t find such phrases on Russian sites. These phrases will be removed from the electronic text. Therefore, only a scanned copy of the original publication, which is more than 100 years old, can serve as proof.
Don’t you see how you were caught again with your pants down in public?I only see a troll from the US Democrats who works for the Russians. And this troll you are Zero Talent.
Zero Talent!
1. There cannot be public access to the works of authors.
2. Such works can be found on pirated sites, but Google does not search for them.
3. Not all of the authors’ works have been translated into English, and many have not been translated or digitized.
4. Nobody digitizes letters from authors.
5. I do not give away my sources of information.
6. Your opinion about me does not interest me. It's enough that I consider you a troll.
And I already said that if the digitization is done by the Russians, it means under the control of the KGB, which means you won’t find such phrases on Russian sites. These phrases will be removed from the electronic text. Therefore, only a scanned copy of the original publication, which is more than 100 years old, can serve as proof.
Zero Talent!
1. There cannot be public access to the works of authors.
2. Such works can be found on pirated sites, but Google does not search for them.
3. Not all of the authors’ works have been translated into English, and many have not been translated or digitized.
4. Nobody digitizes letters from authors.
5. I do not give away my sources of information.
6. Your opinion about me does not interest me. It's enough that I consider you a troll.
And I already said that if the digitization is done by the Russians, it means under the control of the KGB, which means you won’t find such phrases on Russian sites. These phrases will be removed from the electronic text. Therefore, only a scanned copy of the original publication, which is more than 100 years old, can serve as proof.
A quote for which you cannot provide a source is worthless. It proves nothing.
85% of quotes on the Internet are made up. - Abraham Lincoln
Going with this rule, some of the quotes on your list may even be true. The best lies have a grain of truth in them.
Zero Talent!
5. I do not give away my sources of information.
A quote for which you cannot provide a source is worthless. It proves nothing.Not certainly in that way. This site is a forum, this topic is a forum. Live communication is acceptable here, and not constant links to any sources. A lot of people on this forum post their thoughts and things they agree with. If I don't provide a link to something I'm quoting, there are only two reasons:
Wrong. I only defend the truth.
I am 100% behind Ukraine in its struggle to repel the unprovoked russian invasion.
I have donated my own money to Ukrainian causes, and I believe that all democratic countries, including the US, must do more to support Ukraine's attempt to recover its lost territories, including Crimea.
But Ukraine doesn't have to use propaganda to gather this support. It is counterproductive. The truth is enough.
As for these fake quotes, you can always post them as your personal opinion. I can definitely understand the anger, but please don't lie that they belong to those russian writers.
zero, where do you get your patience and above all your objectivity from? ;)
You are not one whit better than any Russian propaganda machine.Strange conclusion. You probably decided this because, unlike you, I know when the Second World War began. ;D ;D ;D
In this case, I have given enough arguments that these quotes are true about the Russians.
1. I did not attribute anything to anyone. As you may have noticed, these quotes were not written by me. If you have any complaints about these quotes and think that they do not belong to these authors, that is your personal point of view. If you want, you can devote your life to studying this issue.In this case, I have given enough arguments that these quotes are true about the Russians.
You are missing the point or intentionally deflecting.
I didn't challenge your opinion about russians; we know it well by now. We understand that you consider the content of these quotes true. This is okay.
What is not okay is to attribute these quotes to famous writers to make your opinion more credible.
This is deceiving, cheating, and lying...
P.S. I would not donate money to an organization that you endorse. Your credibility is in tatters, raising doubts about the credibility of anything that you recommend.
1. I did not attribute anything to anyone. As you may have noticed, these quotes were not written by me. If you have any complaints about these quotes and think that they do not belong to these authors, that is your personal point of view. If you want, you can devote your life to studying this issue.
2. On this forum I post only information with which I agree.
3. I am not writing to gain any authority here, especially from you. Any information that I post here is just information.
As we have proven on multiple occasions, you are also posting fake news, propaganda, and a lot of your misguided personal opinions.This is just the opinion of one troll from the US Democrats. Your opinion. ;D ;D ;D
… then you ask why not being supported with long range missiles from the west… just wait to see how actions of UA will be accepted there, followed with artificially higher prices of diesel and gas…Everything will be accepted normally. Biden's rating will fall, and Trump's will rise. ;D ;D ;D
Trump thought Ukraine ‘must be part of Russia’ during presidency, book saysThis is dirty propaganda from the Democrats. Trump gave Ukraine a Javelin anti-tank missile system. Trump imposed sanctions against Nord Stream 2 and Iran. And that's not all. The cowardly democrats (friends of the Russians) lifted sanctions on both Nord Stream 2 and Iran, which became a signal for russia that it could begin to occupy Ukraine. When Democrat Obama was US President, Ukraine did not receive any weapons at all.
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/12/trump-russia-ukraine-book-comments
For all The Waterboys fans, a masterpiece: https://youtu.be/CIwI3OVL7fgThe closer we get to the elections, the more propaganda from the Democrats. Because of singers like these, the United States lost the war in Vietnam and Americans are still afraid to fight. The fear of fighting opens the way for Russian Na.zis and the axis of evil to occupy other countries and engage in terrorism.
For all The Waterboys fans, a masterpiece: https://youtu.be/CIwI3OVL7fgThe closer we get to the elections, the more propaganda from the Democrats. Because of singers like these, the United States lost the war in Vietnam and Americans are still afraid to fight. The fear of fighting opens the way for Russian Na.zis and the axis of evil to occupy other countries and engage in terrorism.
The biggest liar in the USA is Biden.conspiracy crazies raved and howled
The propaganda from the US Democrats is the same as the propaganda from the Russians.
If Trump is replaced by Biden in this drawing, the drawing will be true.
Replace the elephant in the picture with a donkey.
If Trump wins the election - which I'm pretty sure he will+100
… and when hit russia, where it’s been reported…?!"Democratic" US TV channels constantly show what's happening in russia. For several days they showed in great detail what was happening in Crocus City Hall and how the Democrats felt sorry for the Russians. At the same time, zero words about how many Shahed missiles and drones the Russian orcs launched across Ukraine every day.
Russia's putin expresses preference for Biden as president
https://youtu.be/OglHRUBxI-A (https://youtu.be/OglHRUBxI-A)
Donald Trump's post amid Iranian attack on IsraeL.
+100
Donald Trump's post amid Iranian attack on IsraeL.
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+100
.... and putin's useful idiots believe a moron...I don’t know who you call an idiot or idiots, but it’s strange that you don’t know that Palestine and Hamas are not Iran. And only under the coward Biden, Hamas committed massacres in Israel, and only under Biden did Iran directly begin to fire missiles at Israel.
For their information, Iran's proxies also attacked Israel while the moron-in-chief was in power.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel_in_2019
Donald Trump's post amid Iranian attack on IsraeL.Yes, the truths of Donald Trump...
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+100
"Mexico will pay for the wall." Not a dime has ever come from Mexico.
"The wall will be done soon," he said more than 250 times. It's still not finished.
He was the first president to impose tariffs on Chinese products. Wrong.
He made the biggest tax cut in US history. Wrong.
He defeated ISIS in four weeks. It took two years.
He claimed several times that his father was born in Germany. False.
He claimed his family came from Sweden. False.
He claimed there was no inflation in the USA under him as president. False.
He claimed the election was stolen from him. False.
Trump claimed there was a mass execution of Muslims in the Philippines. There never was.
The list could go on for hours.
Lord of the lies.
.... and putin's useful idiots believe a moron...I don’t know who you call an idiot or idiots, but it’s strange that you don’t know that Palestine and Hamas are not Iran. And only under the coward Biden, Hamas committed massacres in Israel, and only under Biden did Iran directly begin to fire missiles at Israel.
For their information, Iran's proxies also attacked Israel while the moron-in-chief was in power.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel_in_2019
But trolls from US Democrats supporting Biden, of course, cannot understand all this.
;D ;D ;D
Following your logic, we can argue that China also attacked Ukraine..... and putin's useful idiots believe a moron...I don’t know who you call an idiot or idiots, but it’s strange that you don’t know that Palestine and Hamas are not Iran. And only under the coward Biden, Hamas committed massacres in Israel, and only under Biden did Iran directly begin to fire missiles at Israel.
For their information, Iran's proxies also attacked Israel while the moron-in-chief was in power.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel_in_2019
But trolls from US Democrats supporting Biden, of course, cannot understand all this.
;D ;D ;D
Even putin's useful idiots should have known that Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad are Iranian proxies. Iran is coordinating their actions and supporting them militarily, financially, and ideologically.
Yesterday's drone atracked was triggered because one if their Iranian commanders was killed by Israel in a recent airstrike.
So yes, we can safely say that Iran also attacked Israel when the moron was in power, no matter how much propaganda attempts to brainwash his cult followers (putin's useful idiots included).
Following your logic, we can argue that China also attacked Ukraine..... and putin's useful idiots believe a moron...I don’t know who you call an idiot or idiots, but it’s strange that you don’t know that Palestine and Hamas are not Iran. And only under the coward Biden, Hamas committed massacres in Israel, and only under Biden did Iran directly begin to fire missiles at Israel.
For their information, Iran's proxies also attacked Israel while the moron-in-chief was in power.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel_in_2019
But trolls from US Democrats supporting Biden, of course, cannot understand all this.
;D ;D ;D
Even putin's useful idiots should have known that Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad are Iranian proxies. Iran is coordinating their actions and supporting them militarily, financially, and ideologically.
Yesterday's drone atracked was triggered because one if their Iranian commanders was killed by Israel in a recent airstrike.
So yes, we can safely say that Iran also attacked Israel when the moron was in power, no matter how much propaganda attempts to brainwash his cult followers (putin's useful idiots included).
On the one hand, your arguments are well known, but we must understand that a direct war between Iran and Israel will lead to more casualties than anti-terrorist operations against Hamas.
You also forgot that Russian Na.zis also support and finance Hamas. This means, based on your logic, russia also attacked Israel.
Either way, Biden's Middle East policy is failing. All terrorists see that Biden and the Democrats are weak cowards. Therefore, the situation will only get worse.
Biden! Get the fuck out of the white house!
Trolls from the US Democratic Party are very stupid. They don’t know that putin coordinated the attack on Ukraine with Xi Jinping even before the offensive. The trolls do not know that China fully supports russia at the UN and supplies all the necessary equipment and materials for the production of weapons in russia. The mental retardation of trolls characterizes their low level of understanding of geopolitics, which leads to the success of countries included in the axis of evil.Following your logic, we can argue that China also attacked Ukraine..... and putin's useful idiots believe a moron...I don’t know who you call an idiot or idiots, but it’s strange that you don’t know that Palestine and Hamas are not Iran. And only under the coward Biden, Hamas committed massacres in Israel, and only under Biden did Iran directly begin to fire missiles at Israel.
For their information, Iran's proxies also attacked Israel while the moron-in-chief was in power.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel_in_2019
But trolls from US Democrats supporting Biden, of course, cannot understand all this.
;D ;D ;D
Even putin's useful idiots should have known that Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad are Iranian proxies. Iran is coordinating their actions and supporting them militarily, financially, and ideologically.
Yesterday's drone atracked was triggered because one if their Iranian commanders was killed by Israel in a recent airstrike.
So yes, we can safely say that Iran also attacked Israel when the moron was in power, no matter how much propaganda attempts to brainwash his cult followers (putin's useful idiots included).
On the one hand, your arguments are well known, but we must understand that a direct war between Iran and Israel will lead to more casualties than anti-terrorist operations against Hamas.
You also forgot that Russian Na.zis also support and finance Hamas. This means, based on your logic, russia also attacked Israel.
Either way, Biden's Middle East policy is failing. All terrorists see that Biden and the Democrats are weak cowards. Therefore, the situation will only get worse.
Biden! Get the fuck out of the white house!
I have never heard of a Chinese general coordinating russian attacks on Ukraine, but we do know that Iranian generals were coordinating Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad's attacks on Israel.
Even putin's useful idiots should understand the difference.
Besides, it doesn’t even matter who was behind the attack.
What matters in this context is that the moron’s "magic powers" his cult believes in, did not prevent the attacks on Israel (with ~800 rockets), in 2019, when he was moron-in-chief.
...And yet, trump's "magic powers" that his cult believes in didn't prevent the attack with ~800 rockets on Israel in 2019, when he was moron-in-chief.This is a flawed and incorrect conclusion. The Nir Oz massacre in October 2023 resulted in hundreds of civilians killed and tens of thousands of war dead. Not only Israeli citizens are dying, but also Palestinian civilians.
800 Rockets in 2019, 300 drones in 2024.
More Israelis were killed and injured by the 2019 rockets he didn't prevent, than by the recent drone attack the moron claims he could have prevented,
..And yet, trump's "magic powers" that his cult believes in didn't prevent the attack with ~800 rockets on Israel in 2019, when he was moron-in-chief.Under President Trump, the United States did not need to help Israel fight Hamas. Hamas uses a homemade Qassam rocket. Yesterday Iran fired ballistic missiles at Israel. I understand that the trolls from the US Democratic Party do not know the difference between a ballistic missile and a homemade missile, this is understandable, they are stupid trolls. So, NATO countries had to use aircraft to shoot down missiles fired by Iran. This is already called the hot phase of the third world war, which began as a result of Biden’s cowardly and weak policies.
Back then, the moron never tweeted, saying, "ISRAEL IS UNDER ATTACK, and this was allowed to happen when I am the President."
But playing such childish what-if games with his gullible followers (putin's useful idiots inclusive) is too easy.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸
@RepMTG
Are we going to vote to bring back sanctions on Iran like we had under Pres Trump and freeze their money?
Because that worked.
Has Biden’s FBI been rounding up the people chanting “death to America” in Michigan and Chicago?
Or are they still just locking up J6’ers?
https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1779655933049606433
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+100
Biden - get the he.ll out of the white house!
Zero Talent, if you have no more objections to my personal posts, then we will consider the issue closed. Your drain is counted.
Deliberately diverting a topic into another direction is trolling and flooding. Your drain is counted.
A troll who campaigns for Biden and the Democrats is always in a pants-down position. I proved this to all readers of this forum yesterday and today in my posts. Your arguments are worthless and false.Deliberately diverting a topic into another direction is trolling and flooding. Your drain is counted.Unfortunately, this is the exact same topic.
You are getting caught with your pants down, time and time again, when cheering for Trump's moronic "truths" and his anti-Ukraine maga idiots.
This is what putin's useful idiots do.
Deliberately diverting a topic into another direction is trolling and flooding. Your drain is counted.
The morons like trump and mtg, whom you endorse, will sell Ukraine to putin as soon as maga seizes the presidency.::) ::) ::)
Today, you are falling for their propaganda, believing that trump would have prevented attacks on Israel, just because he says so, when he did not do it while he was in charge, and he was unable to prevent the deaths caused by those Iranian-backed rocket attacks.Under Trump, the number of victims in the Middle East was 10,000 times lower. I understand that the deaths of women and children in Palestine mean nothing to you. You only count the deaths of Israeli citizens. For a supporter of the US Democratic Party, this is a common occurrence.
On the other hand, the Aegis US defense system sent by the current administration in the Mediterranean Sea identified and helped to shot down almost all Iranians drones, with zero casualties on the ground. A total fiasco for Iran.Iran hasn't even started yet, as he has already said. Naturally, Iran will take the situation into account; the next attacks will be not only against Israel, but also against US troops.
When your moron becomes president, you will wish to have someone else in power in the US, because nothing can be worse than someone whose party calls Ukrainians n*zis, let alone someone who openly admires putin and believes that Ukraine should trade territory for peace.A coward and friend of the Russians, Biden should not be President of the United States. The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry will deal with other problems.
when influential MAGA representatives believe that Ukrainians are n*zis.And to support this broad conclusion about all Republicans, you showed one tweet. ;D ;D ;D
It’s been a couple of weeks since House Foreign Affairs Committee Chair Michael McCaul was surprisingly candid about one of his party’s direction. “I think Russian propaganda has made its way into the United States, unfortunately, and it’s infected a good chunk of my party’s base,” the Texas Republican complained.Considering that the entire policy of US Democrats over the past 30 years has been aimed at friendship and support for the Russians, your entire text makes no sense.
Less than a week later, the House Intelligence Committee’s Republican chair, Ohio’s Mike Turner, echoed the sentiment, conceding that some of his GOP colleagues are peddling rhetoric that’s “directly coming from Russia.” Soon after, former Defense Secretary William Cohen, a longtime GOP lawmaker, said he believes many congressional Republicans are now working as “the arm of Vladimir Putin.”
If these rebukes were designed to discourage GOP officials from making the kind of public comments the Kremlin wants to hear, they don’t appear to be having their intended effect.
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You are so blind that it hurts!Wilm, you haven't forgotten what year the Second World War began? Always remember this. Write it down on your hand.
when influential MAGA representatives believe that Ukrainians are n*zis.And to support this broad conclusion about all Republicans, you showed one tweet. ;D ;D ;D
This is how US Democratic Party trolls create propaganda against Republicans.
I am sure that that lady has long since regretted writing such a thing. She received a lot of criticism for her post. The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry can hold an explanatory conversation with her if it deems it necessary.
She deleted her post?, which means the incident is over, the problem is no longer there. They had a general educational conversation with her. Now only Democratic trolls are spreading propaganda.PS. MTG is known for deleting the post she regrets. Today, her post calling Ukranians Na*zis is still up. This is maga.when influential MAGA representatives believe that Ukrainians are n*zis.And to support this broad conclusion about all Republicans, you showed one tweet. ;D ;D ;D
This is how US Democratic Party trolls create propaganda against Republicans.
I am sure that that lady has long since regretted writing such a thing. She received a lot of criticism for her post. The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry can hold an explanatory conversation with her if it deems it necessary.
Here is more than a tweet, here is an entire story written by a maga representative, part of the anti-Ukraine maga majority:In the article I saw more criticism of the policies of Biden and the Democrats. This politician raised many correct questions that I have already written about. The Democrats initially supply the wrong weapons to Ukraine and are wasting US money. Because of the democrats, Ukraine has been waging a war for 2 years using the methods of the First World War. Of course, Western industry does not produce as many weapons for the methods of the First World War.
J.D. Vance: The Math on Ukraine Doesn’t Add Up https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/opinion/jd-vance-ukraine.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/opinion/jd-vance-ukraine.html)
She deleted her post?, which means the incident is over, the problem is no longer there. They had a general educational conversation with her. Now only Democratic trolls are spreading propaganda
In the article I saw more criticism of the policies of Biden and the Democrats. This politician raised many correct questions that I have already written about
Include a link to this post on Twitter.She deleted her post?, which means the incident is over, the problem is no longer there. They had a general educational conversation with her. Now only Democratic trolls are spreading propagandaThe post calling Ukrainians na*zi is still up. She doesn't regret it. She means it.
This is maga.
This is just an article by one congressman and your personal understanding of what was written. Everything I think about this I have already written today.
In the article I saw more criticism of the policies of Biden and the Democrats. This politician raised many correct questions that I have already written about
Yes, yes, yes.... This maga politician is writing exactly what putin's useful idiots are cheering for.:
I voted against this package in the Senate and remain opposed to virtually any proposal for the United States to continue funding this war.
Translation for people with comprehension challenges: no funding means zero dollars and zero weapons.
The White House has said time and again that it can’t negotiate with President Vladimir Putin of Russia. This is absurd. The Biden administration has no viable plan for the Ukrainians to win this war. The sooner Americans confront this truth, the sooner we can fix this mess and broker for peace.
Translation for people with comprehension challenges: this is what trump also wants, as he has already promised on several occasions: negotiate for peace; in other words, negociate with putin and give him everything he has already occupied in exchange for an illusory peace.
This is maga. The worst choice for Ukraine.
EU migration policy could turn into a race to the bottom — even for UkrainiansEverything is fine and good.
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-migration-policy-turn-race-bottom-ukraine/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-migration-policy-turn-race-bottom-ukraine/)
Why Did U.S. Planes Defend Israel but Not Ukraine?Mostly propaganda from US Democrats in this article.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/04/ukraine-israel-war-comparison/678077/ (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/04/ukraine-israel-war-comparison/678077/)
Offensive in Ukraine's east ‘priority' for Russia as it intensifies push on Chasiv YarUkraine has problems.
https://kyivindependent.com/offensive-in-the-east-priority-for-russia-as-it-intensifies-push-on-chasiv-yar/
Include a link to this post on Twitter.She deleted her post?, which means the incident is over, the problem is no longer there. They had a general educational conversation with her. Now only Democratic trolls are spreading propagandaThe post calling Ukrainians na*zi is still up. She doesn't regret it. She means it.
This is maga.
… alone…?!Offensive in Ukraine's east ‘priority' for Russia as it intensifies push on Chasiv YarUkraine has problems.
https://kyivindependent.com/offensive-in-the-east-priority-for-russia-as-it-intensifies-push-on-chasiv-yar/
But the main problem is the coward in the presidency of the United States and the European parasites who do not impose effective sanctions against russia, China, Iran, North Korea and Belarus.
In fact, Ukraine alone is waging war against the entire axis of evil (the countries I have listed).
Ukraine alone also defends all NATO countries. That's all you need to know about NATO.
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Many People and Companies Have Made Millions on Trump Media’s Stock
A surge in the social media company’s market value has generated a windfall for current and former executives, on top of the bonanza for its largest shareholder, former President Trump.
Trump Media’s shares have jumped on their first two days of trading on the Nasdaq.
Shares of former President Donald J. Trump’s social media company continued to surge on Wednesday, extending the gains on its first official trading session on the Nasdaq the day before.
After another double-digit percentage gain, the parent of Truth Social approached $9 billion in market value, a windfall for insiders awarded shares in the company.
The biggest beneficiary is Mr. Trump, the company’s largest shareholder, whose stake is worth more than $5 billion, on paper. No other shareholder comes close, according to regulatory filings, but many of Trump Media’s executives have seen their net worth swell this week, in some cases by many millions of dollars.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/27/business/trump-media-shareholders.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/27/business/trump-media-shareholders.html)
What characterizes the people who govern the countries of "the axis of evil"?I can say about the Russians. They are genetic slaves, orcs and zombies. Russians cannot have any other power than putin or someone like him.
They all have one thing in common: they increase their personal wealth - and therefore their power - at the expense of the people they govern.
I fear that Trump will become nothing more than another building block in the axis of evil.There is no need to attribute the crimes of Biden and the Democrats to Trump.
And I can imagine that stocker2014 also sees this risk. But he doesn't care, because his credo is that only evil can defeat other evil.You should drink less!
Personally, I think that the example of the German chancellor in the Second World War is a perfect example of how evil doesn't always win. And at that time, it didn't take evil to defeat evil in Germany.You don't know history at all! What were you taught at your school?
The problem is not just Donald Trump. The problem is above all the people who blindly follow him. Because they promise themselves power, influence, great positions and financial benefits after his election. It was the same in Germany back then. It's the same in Russia - see Medvedev or Lavrov.The next fairy tales. Half the US doesn't like Democrats because they are *insult removed*. Go to states that support Republicans and talk to people, they will tell you who the Democrats are.
What characterizes the people who govern the countries of "the axis of evil"?I can say about the Russians. They are genetic slaves, orcs and zombies. Russians cannot have any other power than putin or someone like him.
They all have one thing in common: they increase their personal wealth - and therefore their power - at the expense of the people they govern.I fear that Trump will become nothing more than another building block in the axis of evil.There is no need to attribute the crimes of Biden and the Democrats to Trump.And I can imagine that stocker2014 also sees this risk. But he doesn't care, because his credo is that only evil can defeat other evil.You should drink less!
I don't think Republicans are evil.Personally, I think that the example of the German chancellor in the Second World War is a perfect example of how evil doesn't always win. And at that time, it didn't take evil to defeat evil in Germany.You don't know history at all! What were you taught at your school?
Germany was defeated by the USSR, which was a fascist country like Germany. The Gestapo is the progeny of the NKVD.
All other good people (European countries) surrendered to Hitler within a few days.The problem is not just Donald Trump. The problem is above all the people who blindly follow him. Because they promise themselves power, influence, great positions and financial benefits after his election. It was the same in Germany back then. It's the same in Russia - see Medvedev or Lavrov.The next fairy tales. Half the US doesn't like Democrats because they are *insult removed*. Go to states that support Republicans and talk to people, they will tell you who the Democrats are.
Oh, yes, I must have made a mistake. My understanding is that Germany was defeated by the Allies. They then divided Germany into US, British, French and Russian occupation zones. Where I grew up, it was the Americans who were part of our daily lives. I had no way of knowing that they were Russians in disguise - please excuse my ignorance. So it was also the Russians who landed in Normandy?Without the USSR there would be no allies. Germany lost the war in battles with the USSR. Everything else was a consequence. It is clear that few people would like it if all of Europe were occupied by the Russians. Although the Russians already occupied many European countries at that time.
Oh, yes, I must have made a mistake. My understanding is that Germany was defeated by the Allies. They then divided Germany into US, British, French and Russian occupation zones. Where I grew up, it was the Americans who were part of our daily lives. I had no way of knowing that they were Russians in disguise - please excuse my ignorance. So it was also the Russians who landed in Normandy?
You were probably told at school that it was the USA and Great Britain who were able to defeat the German army. ;D ;D ;D
1. Germany was bombed not only by the Western allies, but also by the USSR.Oh, yes, I must have made a mistake. My understanding is that Germany was defeated by the Allies. They then divided Germany into US, British, French and Russian occupation zones. Where I grew up, it was the Americans who were part of our daily lives. I had no way of knowing that they were Russians in disguise - please excuse my ignorance. So it was also the Russians who landed in Normandy?
You were probably told at school that it was the USA and Great Britain who were able to defeat the German army. ;D ;D ;D
No, we weren't taught that. If you could read, I used the term "allies".
Unexploded bombs are regularly defused here in the city. There have been 3 in the past 2 weeks - the last one last Sunday. All of them are of US or British origin.
2 million tons of bombs were dropped over Germany by the air forces of the USA and the Royal Air Force. The resulting deaths (approx. 600,000), the immense destruction, especially of the major cities, and the associated decline in the morale of the civilian population played a significant role in the downfall of Germany and its unjust regime. The war was won not least due to the air superiority of the Allies.
But since, as always, you have your own truth, I can spare you this information.
I suppose you wrote your own schoolbooks?
Ukraine is heading for defeatThe article describes the results of the policies of Biden and the US Democrats. Biden - fuck you!
https://www.politico.eu/article/why-ukraine-losing-russia-war/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/why-ukraine-losing-russia-war/)
1. Germany was bombed not only by the Western allies, but also by the USSR.Oh, yes, I must have made a mistake. My understanding is that Germany was defeated by the Allies. They then divided Germany into US, British, French and Russian occupation zones. Where I grew up, it was the Americans who were part of our daily lives. I had no way of knowing that they were Russians in disguise - please excuse my ignorance. So it was also the Russians who landed in Normandy?
You were probably told at school that it was the USA and Great Britain who were able to defeat the German army. ;D ;D ;D
No, we weren't taught that. If you could read, I used the term "allies".
Unexploded bombs are regularly defused here in the city. There have been 3 in the past 2 weeks - the last one last Sunday. All of them are of US or British origin.
2 million tons of bombs were dropped over Germany by the air forces of the USA and the Royal Air Force. The resulting deaths (approx. 600,000), the immense destruction, especially of the major cities, and the associated decline in the morale of the civilian population played a significant role in the downfall of Germany and its unjust regime. The war was won not least due to the air superiority of the Allies.
But since, as always, you have your own truth, I can spare you this information.
I suppose you wrote your own schoolbooks?
2. The Western Allies began bombing Germany only in 1943.
In January 1943, at the Casablanca Conference, it was decided to begin strategic bombing of Germany by joint British-American forces. The objects of the military industry and German cities were to be the targets of the bombing.
In July-August 1943, Hamburg suffered massive bombing. The double raid on Schweinfurt and Regensburg on August 17, 1943 was the first massive raid on objects deep in Germany. Bomber units were unable to defend themselves against German fighter attacks, and losses were high (about 20%). Such losses were deemed unacceptable and the Eighth Air Force (US) ceased air operations over Germany until the arrival of fighters, North American P-51 Mustangs, with sufficient range to fly to Berlin and back.
3. At the end of 1942 and 1943, German troops suffered crushing defeats on the territory of Ukraine. It was only thanks to this that the United States and Britain decided to start bombing Germany. They saw that Germany was losing the war.
4. The Western Allies opened a second front only in 1944. Normandy is already the summer of 1944.
Conclusions: The USA and Britain are cowards who waited until evil in the person of the fascist USSR defeated evil in the person of Na.zi Germany. When the cowardly Western allies saw that Germany began to lose the war, only then did they launch an air operation, and a year later only a ground operation.
I'll tell you this, if the USA and Britain had not landed in Europe, the USSR would have occupied all of Europe. Therefore, their landing was only with the goal of stopping fascism from the USSR.
No, unlike you, I read professional literature and listen to what historians say.1. Germany was bombed not only by the Western allies, but also by the USSR.Oh, yes, I must have made a mistake. My understanding is that Germany was defeated by the Allies. They then divided Germany into US, British, French and Russian occupation zones. Where I grew up, it was the Americans who were part of our daily lives. I had no way of knowing that they were Russians in disguise - please excuse my ignorance. So it was also the Russians who landed in Normandy?
You were probably told at school that it was the USA and Great Britain who were able to defeat the German army. ;D ;D ;D
No, we weren't taught that. If you could read, I used the term "allies".
Unexploded bombs are regularly defused here in the city. There have been 3 in the past 2 weeks - the last one last Sunday. All of them are of US or British origin.
2 million tons of bombs were dropped over Germany by the air forces of the USA and the Royal Air Force. The resulting deaths (approx. 600,000), the immense destruction, especially of the major cities, and the associated decline in the morale of the civilian population played a significant role in the downfall of Germany and its unjust regime. The war was won not least due to the air superiority of the Allies.
But since, as always, you have your own truth, I can spare you this information.
I suppose you wrote your own schoolbooks?
2. The Western Allies began bombing Germany only in 1943.
In January 1943, at the Casablanca Conference, it was decided to begin strategic bombing of Germany by joint British-American forces. The objects of the military industry and German cities were to be the targets of the bombing.
In July-August 1943, Hamburg suffered massive bombing. The double raid on Schweinfurt and Regensburg on August 17, 1943 was the first massive raid on objects deep in Germany. Bomber units were unable to defend themselves against German fighter attacks, and losses were high (about 20%). Such losses were deemed unacceptable and the Eighth Air Force (US) ceased air operations over Germany until the arrival of fighters, North American P-51 Mustangs, with sufficient range to fly to Berlin and back.
3. At the end of 1942 and 1943, German troops suffered crushing defeats on the territory of Ukraine. It was only thanks to this that the United States and Britain decided to start bombing Germany. They saw that Germany was losing the war.
4. The Western Allies opened a second front only in 1944. Normandy is already the summer of 1944.
Conclusions: The USA and Britain are cowards who waited until evil in the person of the fascist USSR defeated evil in the person of Na.zi Germany. When the cowardly Western allies saw that Germany began to lose the war, only then did they launch an air operation, and a year later only a ground operation.
I'll tell you this, if the USA and Britain had not landed in Europe, the USSR would have occupied all of Europe. Therefore, their landing was only with the goal of stopping fascism from the USSR.
Once more I can see that you still write your own schoolbooks. ;D ;D ;D
Just 12 minutes ago:+100
https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1780649744844399054
Not only does she not regret it, as our delusional stoker believed yesterday, she is now doubling down.
This is trump's maga putin's useful idiots are endorsing and cheering for.
Just 12 minutes ago:+100
https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1780649744844399054
Not only does she not regret it, as our delusional stoker believed yesterday, she is now doubling down.
This is trump's maga putin's useful idiots are endorsing and cheering for.
She's great! I've been wanting to tell everyone about this for a long time. But she was ahead of me!
That's it, there are no more complaints against her, the incident is over.
Under Biden, a friend of the Russians, and under Obama, the “democratic” press in the United States wrote that the Ukrainian heroes in the Azov regiment were Na.zis. Democrats = friends of Russians, that's why the "democratic" US press wrote these lies and Russian propaganda.
Of course, Marjorie Taylor Greene, as a conscientious US citizen, has read the “democratic” press and says what this press writes. Everything is logical and everything is correct. Low support for Ukraine among US citizens is the result of the pro-Russian policy of US Democrats.
Therefore, Marjorie Taylor Greene said everything correctly: there is no need to make claims against her. Make claims against Biden, the Democrats and their press.
The “democratic” press in the USA must finally decide who the fighters of the Azov regiment are - Na.zis or heroes of Ukraine!
I will say more, US Democrats imposed sanctions against Azov fighters and these people could not enter US territory.
… everyone can see that this war is closing to its end…No. Until Trump wins the election, the war will continue for a long time. According to Ukrainian military experts, the war will continue until the Russian Federation is completely eliminated.
Marjorie Taylor Greene caught the Democrats and their Zero Talent troll with their pants down. ;D ;D ;D
Zero Talent, I already wrote to you that you and any of your democrats are constantly in a position with their pants down.
… weapons supply peaks from the West are history… army is exhausted and motivation questionable… only way for Ukraine is to negotiate anything and asap… with Russia…1. The same can be said about Russian orcs.
Why Donald Trump ‘hates Ukraine’This is propaganda from US Democrats.
https://www.politico.eu/article/why-donald-trump-hates-ukraine-us-congress-kyiv-war/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/why-donald-trump-hates-ukraine-us-congress-kyiv-war/)
In her defense, she used articles written by putin's useful idiots.+100
According to a former member of Ukrainian parliament Ihor Mosiychuk, #Russia struck the hotel where soldiers were staying. Russia confirmed that. Of course, officials in Ukraine won't admit to thatLies and Russian propaganda. You constantly copy Russian propaganda onto the forum.
https://twitter.com/besthealthyou/status/1780772138711945327 (https://twitter.com/besthealthyou/status/1780772138711945327)
In her defense, she used articles written by putin's useful idiots.+100
It is the Russians who dictate what should be written in the press controlled by US Democrats.
1. I never said that Ukrainians are Na.zis.
2. Marjorie Taylor Greene has proven that the US Democrats are in a position with their pants down and she has proven that the Democratic-controlled press is publishing Russian propaganda.
Trolls from the US Democratic Party are trying to pass off the opinion of one member of the Republican Party as the opinion of Trump and the entire Republican Party. ;D ;D ;DIn her defense, she used articles written by putin's useful idiots.+100
It is the Russians who dictate what should be written in the press controlled by US Democrats.
1. I never said that Ukrainians are Na.zis.
2. Marjorie Taylor Greene has proven that the US Democrats are in a position with their pants down and she has proven that the Democratic-controlled press is publishing Russian propaganda.
You comprehension skills are way below average. So let's try one more time:
A Democratic representative accused her of claiming that Ukrainians are na*zis.
She defended her statement (that Ukrainians are na*zi) by using articles written by putin's useful idiots.
Now you are defending her and her statement in which she claimed that Ukrainians are n*zis.
You didn't say that Ukrainians are na*zis, but you defend those who say it, when they say it.
That's even worse than what putin's useful idiots do. At least they have an appearance of logic, but this is plain stupidity.
Ukraine’s Chances of Pushing Russia Out Look Increasingly GrimWritten by order of the KGB and Russian propaganda.
https://www.wsj.com/world/ukraines-chances-of-pushing-russia-out-look-increasingly-grim-3bc2075a (https://www.wsj.com/world/ukraines-chances-of-pushing-russia-out-look-increasingly-grim-3bc2075a)
161 Ukrainian children abducted by Russia found in GermanyAnd why am I not surprised? I have already written that the Germans are trying to steal Ukrainian children and adopt them into their families. I often see information about this.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/17/7451586/index.amp (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/17/7451586/index.amp)
❗️People are leaving Kharkov en masse!Probably because Russian orcs are shooting at hotels where Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers live? Is that what your sources in Russian propaganda tell you?
https://twitter.com/Wagnersfamily/status/1774911105896247434?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Trolls from the US Democratic Party are trying to pass off the opinion of one member of the Republican Party as the opinion of Trump and the entire Republican Party. ;D ;D ;DIn her defense, she used articles written by putin's useful idiots.+100
It is the Russians who dictate what should be written in the press controlled by US Democrats.
1. I never said that Ukrainians are Na.zis.
2. Marjorie Taylor Greene has proven that the US Democrats are in a position with their pants down and she has proven that the Democratic-controlled press is publishing Russian propaganda.
You comprehension skills are way below average. So let's try one more time:
A Democratic representative accused her of claiming that Ukrainians are na*zis.
She defended her statement (that Ukrainians are na*zi) by using articles written by putin's useful idiots.
Now you are defending her and her statement in which she claimed that Ukrainians are n*zis.
You didn't say that Ukrainians are na*zis, but you defend those who say it, when they say it.
That's even worse than what putin's useful idiots do. At least they have an appearance of logic, but this is plain stupidity.
1. She read articles that were published in the "democratic" press. These articles did not say that they were written by Russian idiots.
2. Of course, I defend her, because her opinion is formed by articles that are published in the “democratic” press controlled by US Democrats. And this opinion is formed not only among her, but also among many other US citizens. US Democrats are Putin's friends.
Thanks to the US Republican Party, long-range ATACMS missiles were included in military assistance to Ukraine. This is already interesting. Such a bill needs to be passed; it will greatly reduce Biden’s rating. As I already wrote, Biden will most likely refuse to transfer these missiles to Ukraine. He will refuse because he is waiting for Putin’s support in the US elections.
I can already predict that a vast majority (maybe even an unanimity) of Democrats will vote in favor of that long-overdue and delayed (by the GoP) billBut I'm not sure about that. You still haven’t understood the mine that the Republicans have laid in this bill to target the Democrats.
I can already predict that a vast majority (maybe even an unanimity) of Democrats will vote in favor of that long-overdue and delayed (by the GoP) billBut I'm not sure about that. You still haven’t understood the mine that the Republicans have laid in this bill to target the Democrats.
Long-range ATACMS missiles are what the democrats (friends of the Russians) do not want to give to Ukraine. The Democrats have an agreement with putin.
Well, let's see how many Democrats vote this time. ;D
Don't you see how ridiculous your are?1. Before the actual voting, I see only your fantasies.
Don't you see how ridiculous your are?1. Before the actual voting, I see only your fantasies.
2. It was only thanks to the Republican Party that ATACMS missiles were added to this bill. Without these missiles, the US Democratic bill was a steal of money from US taxpayers and a gift for putin and all Russians.
Are you ready to bet that MTG and your maga darlings who call Ukrainains na*zis will vote against the pro-Ukraine bill?The press controlled by US Democrats called Ukrainians Na.zis. The Republican member simply repeated what was written in this press.
Are you ready to bet that MTG and your maga darlings who call Ukrainains na*zis will vote against the pro-Ukraine bill?The press controlled by US Democrats called Ukrainians Na.zis. The Republican member simply repeated what was written in this press.
I'm not interested in all these disputes. I think this is childish. I also have little interest in relations within the Republican Party. The Republican Party is a democratic party, there can be different opinions and each member of the party plays a specific role. I need results, so I'll wait until Saturday.
Don't you see how ridiculous your are?1. Before the actual voting, I see only your fantasies.
2. It was only thanks to the Republican Party that ATACMS missiles were added to this bill. Without these missiles, the US Democratic bill was a steal of money from US taxpayers and a gift for putin and all Russians.
Are you ready to bet that MTG and your maga darlings who call Ukrainains na*zis will vote against the pro-Ukraine bill?
Are you ready to bet that a vast majority of Democrats will vote in favor of it?
I don't usually bet, but these things are as obvious as the daily sunrise.
FYI, As predicted, MTG, whom you defended for calling Ukrainians n*zis, just filed a motion to vacate Mike Johnson for pushing the pro-Ukraine bill.
In her head, Mike Johnson is now a Democrat speaker and Ukrainians are na*zis.
Defend her, now!
This is maga. How many more proofs do you still need?
https://x.com/RepMTG/status/1780985369250419139
Now you are no longer interested in this "dispute" when the facts are so overwhelmingly against you, when your gullible pro-maga beliefs are shattered live, in front of your eyes...Whoa! What a syllable! What an epatage! What an expression!
Meanwhile, a delegation of parasites has arrived inLet's see how these rallies and events end.KievKyiv to help rebuild the energy infrastructure destroyed by the Russians.
Wilm, I still hope that, even if they are a minority inside the GOP now, there are still enough old-school Republicans left in Congress so that together with an almost unanimous pro-Ukraine vote from the Democrats, the bill will pass.You don’t understand well what you write and what you criticize. These are such big matters that there is no point in discussing them in this way.
maga and trump are indeed an existential threat for Ukraine.
Another example (see below): JD Vance, another maga representative, the same who wrote that Op-Ed in the NY Times justifying how Ukraine should give putin what he wants in exchange for an illusory peace (mentioned a few pages ago), is against the REPO Act meant to seize russian assets and give them to Ukraine, being concerned that it will remove trump's ability to negotiate with putin!
JD Vance is instead trying to convince his colleagues to protect putin's billions.
And stoker still needs proofs...
Russian money in the USA? Do you really think that Russian idiots keep their money in the USA, given that the third world war has been going on for 10 years? How naive.The REPO Act is about confiscating russian assets worldwide, not just in the US, and about preventing the US president to lift the existing sanctions against russia without Congress approval (something that maga is expecting trump to do). Do your homework: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/4175 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/4175)
Yes, some members of the Republican Party want to show off and are engaged in populism. But only Democratic trolls can inflate all this nonsense to the level of a worldwide Republican conspiracy against Ukraine. You are funny.
The REPO Act is about confiscating russian assets worldwide, not just in the US, and about preventing the US president to lift the existing sanctions against russia without Congress approval (something that maga is expecting trump to do). Do your homework: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/4175 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/4175)1. I have already read this.
Yes, you slowly begin to realize the inconvenient truth: a majority of the GOP is now against Ukraine. trump's isolationist and populist maga is now controlling the GOP.You write lies and propaganda from Democrats. That's what Democratic trolls do.
Here is what other "GoP" representatives or senators have to say:
The REPO Act is about confiscating russian assets worldwide, not just in the US, and about preventing the US president to lift the existing sanctions against russia without Congress approval (something that maga is expecting trump to do). Do your homework: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/4175 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/4175)1. I have already read this.
2. There is no mention of the lifting of sanctions.
You write lies and propaganda from Democrats. That's what Democratic trolls do.
Your "evidence" is not evidence. You are copying some gossip and snippets of phrases here. This is exactly the crap that Russian propaganda does.
How many Republicans are against the bill to help Ukraine will only be seen after voting on Saturday. But this won’t say anything either. Some Republicans are concerned not with Ukraine, but with other issues. Protecting the US borders is an issue of the same importance as assistance to Ukraine. The lousy Democrats have endangered the security of the United States with their cretin policies. Hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists illegally enter the United States. Biden should be put in the electric chair! The Democratic Party needs to be banned!
… and again, you have missed a point…This article says the same thing that Trump said and what I published. If you have any objections, write in clear language.
Donald Trump moans: ‘Why isn’t Europe giving more money to help Ukraine?’
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-moan-why-europe-not-give-more-money-help-ukraine/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-moan-why-europe-not-give-more-money-help-ukraine/)
2. See the text below, explicitly forbidding the president to lift sanctions against russia without Congressional approval, before russia stops the aggression, pays compensations for it, and begins the reconstructuion of Ukraine under international supervison.This is all lies and propaganda of the Democrats. The whole world sees what useless sanctions the Democrats and Biden have imposed against Russia. These sanctions do not achieve their goal and do not weaken the Russians to win for Ukraine. All this is populism and beautiful words from the bas.tards of the Democrats.
https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hr4175/BILLS-118hr4175ih.pdf (https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hr4175/BILLS-118hr4175ih.pdf)
This is meant to prevent trump from lifting the sanctions as soon as he seizes power, as part of his announced "plan" to "end the war in 24 hours".Everything you have written is a dirty lie and propaganda of cowardly democrats (friends of the Russians).
This is why his maga loyalists are fighting against this common-sense law.
Don't you see how foolish this is?I see only dirty propaganda and lies from Democrats in all your posts. You get paid for this, so you write the same thing every day.
Look closer. The bill is introduced by an old-school Republican, Michael McCaul, whom you praised before. He is one of the authors of that paper on Ukraine strategy that you endorsed here. Now the guy is spreading lies and propaganda for the Democrats! Right... right...2. See the text below, explicitly forbidding the president to lift sanctions against russia without Congressional approval, before russia stops the aggression, pays compensations for it, and begins the reconstructuion of Ukraine under international supervison.This is all lies and propaganda of the Democrats. The whole world sees what useless sanctions the Democrats and Biden have imposed against Russia. These sanctions do not achieve their goal and do not weaken the Russians to win for Ukraine. All this is populism and beautiful words from the bas.tards of the Democrats.
https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hr4175/BILLS-118hr4175ih.pdf (https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hr4175/BILLS-118hr4175ih.pdf)This is meant to prevent trump from lifting the sanctions as soon as he seizes power, as part of his announced "plan" to "end the war in 24 hours".Everything you have written is a dirty lie and propaganda of cowardly democrats (friends of the Russians).
This is why his maga loyalists are fighting against this common-sense law.
… Bram was a mistery for me, but it seems that he is working for both sides…
Wilm, I still hope that, even if they are a minority inside the GOP now, there are still enough old-school Republicans left in Congress so that together with an almost unanimous pro-Ukraine vote from the Democrats, the bill will pass.
maga and trump are indeed an existential threat for Ukraine.
Another example (see below): JD Vance, another maga representative, the same who wrote that Op-Ed in the NY Times justifying how Ukraine should give putin what he wants in exchange for an illusory peace (mentioned a few pages ago), is against the REPO Act meant to seize russian assets and give them to Ukraine, being concerned that it will remove trump's ability to negotiate with putin!
JD Vance is instead trying to convince his colleagues to protect putin's billions.
And stoker still needs proofs...
Yes, some members of the Republican Party want to show off and are engaged in populism. But only Democratic trolls can inflate all this nonsense to the level of a worldwide Republican conspiracy against Ukraine. You are funny.
"All Russians are orcs. Many Europeans are parasites."Wilm, I still hope that, even if they are a minority inside the GOP now, there are still enough old-school Republicans left in Congress so that together with an almost unanimous pro-Ukraine vote from the Democrats, the bill will pass.
maga and trump are indeed an existential threat for Ukraine.
Another example (see below): JD Vance, another maga representative, the same who wrote that Op-Ed in the NY Times justifying how Ukraine should give putin what he wants in exchange for an illusory peace (mentioned a few pages ago), is against the REPO Act meant to seize russian assets and give them to Ukraine, being concerned that it will remove trump's ability to negotiate with putin!
JD Vance is instead trying to convince his colleagues to protect putin's billions.
And stoker still needs proofs...
Yes, some members of the Republican Party want to show off and are engaged in populism. But only Democratic trolls can inflate all this nonsense to the level of a worldwide Republican conspiracy against Ukraine. You are funny.
That's absolutely crazy.
Everything is black or white with you. All Russians are orcs. All Europeans are parasites. Everything that suits you is correct - everything that doesn't suit you comes from the KGB and is propaganda.
And now you're making an exception in your completely entrenched world view? A few members of the Republicans? Why are you suddenly able to differentiate?
The way I see it, there will never be any weapons from the USA for Ukraine that would make it possible to attack Russia directly and on a large scale. Anyone with even half a normal mind can imagine what that would lead to. The Democrats know that, the Republicans know that.1. There is no such thing as a defensive weapon when an army is attacking you using all types of conventional weapons (conventional for now).
Therefore, from my point of view, there are two perspectives:
- The hope that at some point the Republicans will at least release the delivery of the large aid package with defense weapons (which is already failing and will become an even bigger problem if the Republicans should not win the election)
- Trump's negotiations with his buddy Putin, which will at least result in the recognition of Crimea, Donbass and Luhansk as Russian territories.
In the second case, Trump will spin it rhetorically by claiming that he had no other negotiating option because Putin wants compensation for the losses from the arms deliveries that the Democrats were able to push through. In short: Trump will say that we could have negotiated better from Ukraine's point of view if Ukraine had not resisted. But the Democrats prevented this by supplying weapons. And then he will pat himself on the back:
- he was able to blame the Democrats for Ukraine having to cede territory to Russia
- from his point of view, the conflict has been resolved, as he had promised
So, trolls from the US Democratic Party are convincing people to vote for the crazy Biden.
Democratic trolls = enemies of the USA.
So, trolls from the US Democratic Party are convincing people to vote for the crazy Biden.
Democratic trolls = enemies of the USA.
The Democrats just saved your country. You should kiss the ground they walk on.
"With rare bipartisan momentum, the House pushed ahead Friday on a foreign aid package of $95 billion for Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and humanitarian support as a robust coalition of lawmakers helped it clear a procedural hurdle to reach final votes this weekend. Friday’s vote produced a seldom-seen outcome in the typically hyper-partisan House, with Democrats helping Republican Speaker Mike Johnson’s plan advance overwhelmingly 316-94. Final House approval could come this weekend, when the package would be sent to the Senate.
In an extremely rare step, the members of the House Rules Committee joined forces late Thursday in a near midnight vote, the four Democrats giving their support on a procedural step, to push past the Republican majority's three hard-line holdouts to send the package to the House floor for debate on a 9-3 vote. It was a moment unseen in recent House memory."
1. From the 11th minute, the representative of Ukraine in the United States says that the Democrats initially did everything so that assistance would not be provided to Ukraine. Democrats delayed voting on aid to Ukraine in October 2023. They did this in order to blame the Republicans.So, trolls from the US Democratic Party are convincing people to vote for the crazy Biden.
Democratic trolls = enemies of the USA.
The Democrats just saved your country. You should kiss the ground they walk on.
… yes, that is so little money…and when lot of that dissapears without a trace, in someone pockets…It is not the money that goes to Ukraine, but the weapons purchased with that money. You can't hide weapons in your pockets.
The Rada plans to introduce military censorship in UkraineThese are events aimed at eliminating Russian propaganda, KGB agents and disinformation.
https://pledgetimes.com/the-rada-plans-to-introduce-military-censorship-in-ukraine/
I can already predict that a vast majority (maybe even an unanimity) of Democrats will vote in favor of that long-overdue and delayed (by the GoP) billBut I'm not sure about that. You still haven’t understood the mine that the Republicans have laid in this bill to target the Democrats.
Long-range ATACMS missiles are what the democrats (friends of the Russians) do not want to give to Ukraine. The Democrats have an agreement with putin.
Well, let's see how many Democrats vote this time. ;D
Are you ready to bet that MTG and your maga darlings who call Ukrainains na*zis will vote against the pro-Ukraine bill?It could have been an easy bet to win if the stoker had had the balls to put his money/honor where his big mouth is. And he is calling others cowards...
Are you ready to bet that a vast majority of Democrats will vote in favor of it?
🇺🇦Slava Ukraini!!!🇺🇦
Biden's ties to Putin:Biden in Moscow, during the times of the USSR and the KGB. You can’t tell from him that he has a bad attitude towards the fascist country.
AM24, all your incriminating evidence does not have a link to the source.
Biden's ties to Putin:Biden in Moscow, during the times of the USSR and the KGB. You can’t tell from him that he has a bad attitude towards the fascist country.
A link to Google is of course a very serious source. And what sites will Google take me to - Russian ones or sites where Democrats write lies? ;D ;D ;DAM24, all your incriminating evidence does not have a link to the source.
Google it. Its all there.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868/ (https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868/)
And as for your comments above about October 2023, here's Biden's actual words:Everything Biden says is a lie! Everything the Democrats say is a lie! Ukraine has a different opinion and I have already given a link to the opinion of Ukrainian deputies and experts today.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-suggests-democrats-have-new-deal-with-republicans-ukraine-aid-2023-10-01/ (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-suggests-democrats-have-new-deal-with-republicans-ukraine-aid-2023-10-01/)
Recently, I have read about a fake YouTube channel that claims to be pro-Ukrainian, but the content presented there is absurd and there are accusations that its fundraisers are fake.This is what all useful putin idiots and Europarasites write.
So, now I think that is very likely that stoker2014 is a russian troll. And I think he should be treated as such. I mean, how can a normal person post such stupidities multiple times per day? Most importantly, the individual behind the nick stoker2014 attacks Ukraine's allies and promotes the agenda of those who oppose aid for Ukraine. He blatantly ignores what official Ukrainian sources have to say.
So, from now on, I will consider stoker2014 a russian troll that claims to be pro-Ukrainian but acts against the interests of Ukraine.
In my opinion, you are giving him too much credit. I don't think he is a troll.
So, now I think that is very likely that stoker2014 is a russian troll. And I think he should be treated as such. I mean, how can a normal person post such stupidities multiple times per day?
This bill has not yet passed all stages of voting in Congress and it is unknown when Biden will sign it.
Recently, I have read about a fake YouTube channel that claims to be pro-Ukrainian, but the content presented there is absurd and there are accusations that its fundraisers are fake.
So, now I think that is very likely that stoker2014 is a russian troll. And I think he should be treated as such. I mean, how can a normal person post such stupidities multiple times per day? Most importantly, the individual behind the nick stoker2014 attacks Ukraine's allies and promotes the agenda of those who oppose aid for Ukraine. He blatantly ignores what official Ukrainian sources have to say.
This is a top russian propagandist and stocker's idol explaining why facts don't matter:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1c7uf1e/olga_skabeyeva_a_russian_top_propagandist/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1c7uf1e/olga_skabeyeva_a_russian_top_propagandist/)
This why I find the very idea of the so-called 'russian world' disgusting, it is filled with nihilism, it is evil to the core. Just like for Skabaeva, facts don't matter for stoker2014, he will spin any facts to match his degenerated propaganda based on lies and delusions. Stoker2014 attempts to muddy the waters with his intellectual excrements that he tirelessly posts in this space.
So, from now on, I will consider stoker2014 a russian troll that claims to be pro-Ukrainian but acts against the interests of Ukraine.
This bill has not yet passed all stages of voting in Congress and it is unknown when Biden will sign it.
A link to Google is of course a very serious source. And what sites will Google take me to - Russian ones or sites where Democrats write lies? ;D ;D ;DAM24, all your incriminating evidence does not have a link to the source.
Google it. Its all there.
You think Biden and the Democrats have no ties to putin ;D
As for the article in politico, this article may well be custom-made, and most likely it is.
… almost every politician tell lies when needed… some of them, like you, even can’t tell anything else… by time, like you dear Bram, they lose any connection with a reality… and then they float inside their imaginary bubble world, deaf and blind…And as for your comments above about October 2023, here's Biden's actual words:Everything Biden says is a lie! Everything the Democrats say is a lie! Ukraine has a different opinion and I have already given a link to the opinion of Ukrainian deputies and experts today.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-suggests-democrats-have-new-deal-with-republicans-ukraine-aid-2023-10-01/ (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-suggests-democrats-have-new-deal-with-republicans-ukraine-aid-2023-10-01/)
They are not clowns, they are American patriots. The issue of the US borders has not been resolved, and hundreds of thousands of enemies are entering the US through these borders. These enemies then vote for the Democrats (friends of the Russians). This assistance to Ukraine has no strategic plan, which means the money will be wasted. Military assistance is small. There is no Lend Lease, no aviation.This bill has not yet passed all stages of voting in Congress and it is unknown when Biden will sign it.
The only ones who opposed it were your MAGA republican clowns!
A lie written 186 times does not become the truth. Wikipedia is a site where anyone can write any lie.A link to Google is of course a very serious source. And what sites will Google take me to - Russian ones or sites where Democrats write lies? ;D ;D ;DAM24, all your incriminating evidence does not have a link to the source.
Google it. Its all there.
You think Biden and the Democrats have no ties to putin ;D
As for the article in politico, this article may well be custom-made, and most likely it is.
Do you enjoy reading?
Here are 186 sources for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials)
This assistance to Ukraine has no strategic plan, which means the money will be wasted. Military assistance is small. There is no Lend Lease, no aviation.
Ukrainians' opinion:
Thanks to the US Republican Party, long-range ATACMS missiles were included in military assistance to Ukraine. This is already interesting. Such a bill needs to be passed;
Landkreise wollen keine Ukraine-Flüchtlinge mehr aufnehmen+100
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article251124262/Am-Limit-Landkreise-wollen-keine-Ukraine-Fluechtlinge-mehr-aufnehmen.html (https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article251124262/Am-Limit-Landkreise-wollen-keine-Ukraine-Fluechtlinge-mehr-aufnehmen.html)
https://twitter.com/ECRoberts3/status/1782049658518286758
🇺🇸𝔓𝔞𝔱𝔯𝔦𝔬𝔱 ℭ𝔥𝔢𝔱🇺🇸
@ECRoberts3
This is not only a great post, but 100% accurate. Every single Ukrainian flag waving commie needs to be held as traitors to the United States of America 😡😡😡
Recently, I have read about a fake YouTube channel that claims to be pro-Ukrainian, but the content presented there is absurd and there are accusations that its fundraisers are fake.
So, now I think that is very likely that stoker2014 is a russian troll. And I think he should be treated as such. I mean, how can a normal person post such stupidities multiple times per day? Most importantly, the individual behind the nick stoker2014 attacks Ukraine's allies and promotes the agenda of those who oppose aid for Ukraine. He blatantly ignores what official Ukrainian sources have to say.
This is a top russian propagandist and stocker's idol explaining why facts don't matter:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1c7uf1e/olga_skabeyeva_a_russian_top_propagandist/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1c7uf1e/olga_skabeyeva_a_russian_top_propagandist/)
This why I find the very idea of the so-called 'russian world' disgusting, it is filled with nihilism, it is evil to the core. Just like for Skabaeva, facts don't matter for stoker2014, he will spin any facts to match his degenerated propaganda based on lies and delusions. Stoker2014 attempts to muddy the waters with his intellectual excrements that he tirelessly posts in this space.
So, from now on, I will consider stoker2014 a russian troll that claims to be pro-Ukrainian but acts against the interests of Ukraine.
… wasn’t Ukraine independent…?! Why depends on others help…?!What criteria must an independent country meet?
He wants people to believe that Ukrainians are ungrateful, anti-democratic, extremely prejudiced and think in black and white.You're probably out of luck here, everyone. You probably met the wrong Ukrainian. There are probably correct Ukrainians, those who constantly bow to US democrats and European parasites and say thank you. And there are wrong Ukrainians who are not grateful for some reason. Therefore, you decided that all the wrong Ukrainians are not Ukrainians at all, but are Russian trolls.
Trump is Casanova!The people of the United States will decide in the elections.
;D ;D ;D
That's great information. I assume that's a very important quality for a president. And his family will love it too.
Democrats...+100
Who - apart from a Russian trollYour low level of understanding of politics does not allow you to determine who the Russian troll is. I recommend taking a closer look at the posts of the author under the nickname "trucic".
Who - apart from a Russian trollYour low level of understanding of politics does not allow you to determine who the Russian troll is. I recommend taking a closer look at the posts of the author under the nickname "trucic".
But if you are a Europarasite, then this is already a diagnosis.
In my opinion, you are giving him too much credit. I don't think he is a troll.
So, now I think that is very likely that stoker2014 is a russian troll. And I think he should be treated as such. I mean, how can a normal person post such stupidities multiple times per day?
Please remember that all of putin's useful idiots parrot his propaganda and it's hard to make the difference.
The agency employed fake accounts registered on major social networking sites, discussion boards, online newspaper sites, and video hosting services to promote the Kremlin's interests in domestic and foreign policy including Ukraine and the Middle East as well as attempting to influence the 2016 United States presidential election. More than 1,000 employees reportedly worked in a single building of the agency in 2015.
I have never seen Russian trolls use such wording. You should provide a link to this. Otherwise your statement is false.Who - apart from a Russian trollYour low level of understanding of politics does not allow you to determine who the Russian troll is. I recommend taking a closer look at the posts of the author under the nickname "trucic".
But if you are a Europarasite, then this is already a diagnosis.
Have they taught you that stupid word "Europarasite" during a training for russian trolls?
Russian trolls often use neologisms like that...
Russian trolls from Olgino (ольгинские тролли) started to promote Trump in 2015:After Trump's victory, Russian trolls began a reverse campaign. All Russians were unhappy with Trump's anti-Russian policies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_AgencyQuoteThe agency employed fake accounts registered on major social networking sites, discussion boards, online newspaper sites, and video hosting services to promote the Kremlin's interests in domestic and foreign policy including Ukraine and the Middle East as well as attempting to influence the 2016 United States presidential election. More than 1,000 employees reportedly worked in a single building of the agency in 2015.
Russian trolls from Olgino (ольгинские тролли) started to promote Trump in 2015:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_AgencyQuoteThe agency employed fake accounts registered on major social networking sites, discussion boards, online newspaper sites, and video hosting services to promote the Kremlin's interests in domestic and foreign policy including Ukraine and the Middle East as well as attempting to influence the 2016 United States presidential election. More than 1,000 employees reportedly worked in a single building of the agency in 2015.
Putin recently said twice that Biden is the best president for russia.
I see you got up for work during morning hours in Olgino or elsewhere in Mordor, while it is still night in the US.What time is it in Ukraine? Are Ukrainians Russian trolls?
Russian trolls from Olgino (ольгинские тролли) started to promote Trump in 2015:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_AgencyQuoteThe agency employed fake accounts registered on major social networking sites, discussion boards, online newspaper sites, and video hosting services to promote the Kremlin's interests in domestic and foreign policy including Ukraine and the Middle East as well as attempting to influence the 2016 United States presidential election. More than 1,000 employees reportedly worked in a single building of the agency in 2015.
Putin recently said twice that Biden is the best president for russia.
Putin said in 2014 that he could take Kiev in 2 weeks if he wanted to.
Right? Wrong?
Putin said in February 2022 that a Russian invasion of Ukraine was provocative speculation by the West and pure "hysteria".
True? Wrong?
Putin says the Ukrainian government are *.
Is that right? Wrong?
Putin says the attack on Ukraine is pure self-defense.
Right? Wrong?
Putin says the Donbass is a sovereign region in which genocide must be prevented.
Right? Wrong?
Putin says the Ukrainian government is a puppet regime.
Right? Wrong?
Putin says that Russians, Belarusians and Ukraine are one people.
True? Wrong?
Putin says Biden is the best US president for the Russians.
Right? Wrong?
Once more: You are so blind that it hurts!
Russian trolls from Olgino (ольгинские тролли) started to promote Trump in 2015:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_AgencyQuoteThe agency employed fake accounts registered on major social networking sites, discussion boards, online newspaper sites, and video hosting services to promote the Kremlin's interests in domestic and foreign policy including Ukraine and the Middle East as well as attempting to influence the 2016 United States presidential election. More than 1,000 employees reportedly worked in a single building of the agency in 2015.
Putin recently said twice that Biden is the best president for russia.
Putin said in 2014 that he could take Kiev in 2 weeks if he wanted to.
Right? Wrong?
Putin said in February 2022 that a Russian invasion of Ukraine was provocative speculation by the West and pure "hysteria".
True? Wrong?
Putin says the Ukrainian government are *.
Is that right? Wrong?
Putin says the attack on Ukraine is pure self-defense.
Right? Wrong?
Putin says the Donbass is a sovereign region in which genocide must be prevented.
Right? Wrong?
Putin says the Ukrainian government is a puppet regime.
Right? Wrong?
Putin says that Russians, Belarusians and Ukraine are one people.
True? Wrong?
Putin says Biden is the best US president for the Russians.
Right? Wrong?
Once more: You are so blind that it hurts!
You need to go back to first grade in school and learn to read. I was responding to the phrase "Russian trolls from Olgino (Olgin's trolls) started to promote Trump in 2015:".
For the illiterate, I’ll explain that Trump’s advertising by trolls is no different from Biden’s advertising by putin.
You have written that you believe Putin. And you have deduced from this argument that Biden belongs in the electric chair.Everything you wrote is lies, nonsense and trolling.
I simply don't believe that a person could be so stupid to believe that Trump and his MAGA scumbags are pro-Ukrainian. Therefore, I assume ill will and consider stoker2014 a russian troll. His main activity here is attacking Ukraine's allies.Be careful in drawing conclusions. Not everything that US Democrats and their trolls say is true.
I see you got up for work during morning hours in Olgino or elsewhere in Mordor, while it is still night in the US.What time is it in Ukraine? Are Ukrainians Russian trolls?
How's Biden doing, within his own party?Biden has already lost his mind. He has long belonged in a nursing home. It would be idiotic to elect a crazy old man as President of the United States.
U.S. aid gives Kyiv respite but battlefield shift remains far offThese are my words. My texts are read by famous US publications and published. ;D
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/04/22/world/politics/ukraine-war-us-military-aid/ (https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/04/22/world/politics/ukraine-war-us-military-aid/)
You have written that you believe Putin. And you have deduced from this argument that Biden belongs in the electric chair.
Everything you wrote is lies, nonsense and trolling.
(https://meduza.io/impro/Xaeloc7B4xyELxTX3kr45TUwRsjdOeMESHy34kVoG2E/resizing_type:fit/width:980/height:0/enlarge:1/quality:80/aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWR1/emEuaW8vaW1hZ2Uv/YXR0YWNobWVudHMv/aW1hZ2VzLzAwNi8x/NTIvNzM4L29yaWdp/bmFsL1pGdmt0SGtR/Q09ORUdVQUtQRjUy/M0EuanBn.webp)
Biden smiles sincerely (against the background of a KGB agent), even though his interlocutor is not smiling. This photo is proof of the fact that Biden liked Russians early in his career.
In the context of this post, I am writing to you that I do not believe putin and I do not believe any Russian orc.
I'll quote zero talent: "There are no former KGB agents." ;D ;D ;D
(https://glavcom.ua/img/article/7628/85_main-v1623761458.jpg)
(https://gdb.voanews.com/CA90ED41-922E-46F3-9578-847970C4BB3E_w1023_r1_s.jpg)
At best, the photo I posted with Biden in the 80s suggests that Biden liked the USSR, liked the Russians, liked the fascists. Biden was a politician for relations with the USSR. I am against such politicians in power in the USA.
So what will this coward and friend of the Russians, Biden, do now on the issue of long-range missiles for Ukraine?… mistrust of use…?!
Thanks to the Republicans, Congress voted to allow these missiles to be delivered to Ukraine.
I think that this coward will chicken out and work for the Russians in these matters.
No. Support for russia and putin. Providing Ukraine with long-range missiles in the required quantity means victory for Ukraine. The same applies to the provision of F16 in the required quantity. US Democrats and Biden are friends of russia and are against russia losing the war. US Democrats support the Russian empire and do not want its liquidation. Therefore, the entire policy of the Democrats is aimed at supporting Russians and genocide of Ukrainians.So what will this coward and friend of the Russians, Biden, do now on the issue of long-range missiles for Ukraine?… mistrust of use…?!
Thanks to the Republicans, Congress voted to allow these missiles to be delivered to Ukraine.
I think that this coward will chicken out and work for the Russians in these matters.
… so you only need everything and thats all…?!To defeat russia and de-occupate the territories of Ukraine, long-range missiles and F16 aircraft are needed. And this is needed not in a single quantity, but in the required quantity. Ten missiles or ten aircrafts will not change the situation much. Also, missiles and aircraft will change the nature of the war and Ukraine will not need mobilization, trench warfare and Ukrainian losses will be 10 times less.
Marjorie Taylor Greene says if she ran Jan. 6 Capitol attack, 'We would have won'
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-jan-6-capitol-attack-wouldve/story?id=95065444
;D ;D ;D
Marjorie Taylor Greene says if she ran Jan. 6 Capitol attack, 'We would have won'
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-jan-6-capitol-attack-wouldve/story?id=95065444
;D ;D ;D
You completely lack logical thinking. You have already written that you consider me a Russian troll. But it is common knowledge that all Russian trolls (and simply Russians) are enemies of democracy. Therefore, you repeat yourself in your statements, which means you cannot add 2 plus 2.Marjorie Taylor Greene says if she ran Jan. 6 Capitol attack, 'We would have won'
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-jan-6-capitol-attack-wouldve/story?id=95065444
;D ;D ;D
The fact that you think this statement is good shows that you, like MTG, are an enemy of democracy. I find that extremely repulsive and disgusting!
Rehashing old news from May ’22, when Biden was already considered by smart Ukrainians “that” guy in the middle."Ukrainian war humor. Biden signing Lend-Lease Law with Zaporizhian Cossacks from the famous painting by Ilya Repin 'Cossacks write a letter to the Turkish sultan'."
https://twitter.com/EugenPinak/status/1524455866790993923
The USA have delivered long range Atacms missiles earlier this month to the Ukraine on direct order of President Biden. For security reasons this has been kept secret until now.All this is at the level of rumors and gossip. Even if long-range missiles were supplied, then in what quantity? One piece, two pieces, three?
Also Biden announced a large package of military aid with anti aircraft defence, artillery and missiles after the congress has cleared the funding for that. The preparations for that will begin "within the next hours".
https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-krieg-usa-liefern-atacms-raketen-und-neues-militaerpaket-a-3abb87bd-6459-4934-9ed1-415d8e3e89fa (https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-krieg-usa-liefern-atacms-raketen-und-neues-militaerpaket-a-3abb87bd-6459-4934-9ed1-415d8e3e89fa)
If such missiles had been supplied, Crimean Bridge would have already been destroyed.
Instead of a branch, draw Biden's neck. ;D ;D ;D
:o :o :oIf such missiles had been supplied, Crimean Bridge would have already been destroyed.
According to the article, the missiles have been delivered earlier this month. So they may not yet have been deployed to the front.
I don't agree. The next US president will supply to Ukraine whatever he is told in Ukraine. ;DInstead of a branch, draw Biden's neck. ;D ;D ;D
Same difference. You will still fall and break yours.
Satire is too complicated for you...
Zero, or anyone else from the USA.This is all the result of the policy of US Democrats (friends of world terrorism). The majority of the Democratic electorate is against Israel and supports Hamas. University professors are also mostly democrats and do not teach correctly.
Can someone please explain and categorize how and why these anti-Israel protests at American universities come about?
If such missiles had been supplied, Crimean Bridge would have already been destroyed.
According to the article, the missiles have been delivered earlier this month. So they may not yet have been deployed to the front.
Zero, or anyone else from the USA.This is all the result of the policy of US Democrats (friends of world terrorism). The majority of the Democratic electorate is against Israel and supports Hamas. University teachers are also mostly democrats and do not teach correctly.
Can someone please explain and categorize how and why these anti-Israel protests at American universities come about?
I hope that RalfLiebhold does not read my answer, because he put me on his personal ignore list. I am answering the question not for him, but for all other readers. RalfLiebhold, don't read my answer, it's not for you! ;D ;D ;D
Zero, or anyone else from the USA.
Can someone please explain and categorize how and why these anti-Israel protests at American universities come about?
And please no opinion from the misprogrammed pro-Russian chatbot.
Let me clarify that many University professors at prestigious US universities support Hamas. I'm sure they are Democrats.Zero, or anyone else from the USA.
Can someone please explain and categorize how and why these anti-Israel protests at American universities come about?
And please no opinion from the misprogrammed pro-Russian chatbot.
I've been following it.
It appears to be misguided Gen Z college students fueled by social media, and without real historical understanding of the Middle East situation, which has taken on a life of its own.
It doesn't appear to be either right-wing or left-wing biased - because they are angry at Biden too for not doing enough to stop Israel - but rather a generational thing. Anti-war protests, so to speak. But very misguided, and definitely fueled by all the lies on social media.
It will be a good thing when China's ownership of TikTok is banned in the USA. As its now part of this latest foreign aid bill going through. All these internet influences from Russia, China and Iran are often a direct attack to destabilize democratic countries. In this case, they start with the most vulnerable - the younger generations.
However, I don't know whether there were any arrangements regarding disputed regions such as Donbass, Luhansk or Crimea.This is all the legal territory of Ukraine, which is occupied by Russian orcs. If US Democrats do not allow Ukraine to shoot even on its territory, then these missiles are not needed at all. There will be nothing to shoot at with them. Long-range missiles also require long-range targets.
social media influence ...Reasons for protests against Israel in the USA:
Biden admin isn’t fully convinced Ukraine can win, even with new aid+100
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/24/biden-ukraine-russia-war-aid-00154143 (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/24/biden-ukraine-russia-war-aid-00154143)
… it’s late now, because the war is in its latest phase… don’t pray for MAGA, because they will be even for faster ending of all of these madness… everyone desperately need peace…You're delusional. Until the Russians occupy half or all of the EU, the war will continue. Also about China, North Korea and Iran. It is only Russian propaganda that offers to surrender Ukraine in exchange for “peace.”
3. Cowardly Americans run away from the EU in 2-3 weeks.
4. The army of Russian orcs will completely occupy the entire EU in 1-2 months.
@Ralf
Here is Reuters summary from yesterday:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/what-is-behind-pro-palestinian-protests-us-universities-2024-04-23/ (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/what-is-behind-pro-palestinian-protests-us-universities-2024-04-23/)
"April 23 (Reuters) - Student protests in the U.S. over the war in Gaza have intensified and expanded over the past week, with a number of encampments now in place at colleges including Columbia, Yale, and New York University. Police have been called in to several campuses to arrest demonstrators.
Here are some details on the protests:
WHAT ARE THE PROTESTERS DEMANDING?
Across campuses where protests have broken out, students have issued calls for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza, an end to U.S. military assistance for Israel, university divestment from arms suppliers and other companies profiting from the war, and an amnesty for students and faculty members who have been disciplined or fired for protesting."
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I just want to add re. social media influence ...
I don't know if you've been watching the Trump Hush Money trial, but its interesting that all prospective jurors were asked where they got their news from. The older people largely named conventional news sources - BUT the younger ones said TikTok and social media!
1. Don’t compare yourself with brave and warlike Ukrainians. You won't last a day in a trench.4. The army of Russian orcs will completely occupy the entire EU in 1-2 months.The Russians currently need months to conquer a few small towns or villages, but they will overrun the EU in a few weeks. Sure.
1. Don’t compare yourself with brave and warlike Ukrainians. You won't last a day in a trench.4. The army of Russian orcs will completely occupy the entire EU in 1-2 months.The Russians currently need months to conquer a few small towns or villages, but they will overrun the EU in a few weeks. Sure.
2. The Russian army will be replenished with Ukrainians in the event of the occupation of Ukraine. And you will have to deal not only with Russian zombies and orcs, but also with brave Ukrainians. You can’t imagine what it means when Russian zombies come at you, they are not afraid to die in droves. This is a zombie.
A totalitarian and Nazi world can be achieved very quickly. I’ll even write it like this:
1. Ukraine signs complete surrender, renounces statehood and allows Russian orc troops to reach the EU borders.
2. Ukrainians are mobilized into the army of orcs.
3. Cowardly Americans run away from the EU in 2-3 weeks.
4. The army of Russian orcs will completely occupy the entire EU in 1-2 months.
5. At the same time, China occupies Taiwan, Iran occupies Israel, and North Korea occupies South Korea.
6. Other actions are possible regarding the occupation of Australia by China, etc. (I don’t know all the plans of the terrorists).
So, is such a world suitable? Suitable for everyone?
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The entire democratic world holds together only thanks to the courage of Ukrainians. The cowardly Europarasites will surrender to the Russian orcs in a few days. And this is confirmed by surveys that were conducted in EU countries.
The Russians won't even need to use nuclear weapons. Conventional weapons will be sufficient. Cowardly democracies will never be the first to use nuclear weapons. As a result, all EU nuclear weapons will come under Russian control.
ps.
I propose to Hollywood to make a film or series based on this very real scenario.
Yes, but we have Taurus missiles, Leopard tanks and aviationThis will not help the cowardly Europarasites. All these weapons will come under Russian control even without a fight.
Yes, but we have Taurus missiles, Leopard tanks and aviationThis will not help the cowardly Europarasites. All these weapons will come under Russian control even without a fight.
;D ;D ;D
I don't want this. I only voice scripts.You may wish that, but it will not happen that way.Yes, but we have Taurus missiles, Leopard tanks and aviationThis will not help the cowardly Europarasites. All these weapons will come under Russian control even without a fight.
;D ;D ;D
As Russian Troops Broke Through Ukrainian Lines, Panicky Ukrainian Commanders Had No Choice But To Deploy One Of Their Least-Prepared BrigadesIt's not clear what this article is about. Some kind of rumors, speculation, gossip. How can this Forbes know what is happening on every meter of the front. I am monitoring the situation at the front from various sources, I have not heard anything like this. There are Ukrainian volunteers and journalists on the front line; if something wrong happens, they talk about it. I haven’t heard anything about what Forbes writes. Probably Forbes is earning money from the Russians and publishing a custom article.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/24/as-russian-troops-broke-through-ukrainian-lines-panicky-ukrainian-commanders-had-no-choice-but-to-deploy-one-of-their-least-prepared-brigades/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/24/as-russian-troops-broke-through-ukrainian-lines-panicky-ukrainian-commanders-had-no-choice-but-to-deploy-one-of-their-least-prepared-brigades/)
‘Blatantly illegal’: Zelenskyy admin under fire for denying services to Ukrainian men abroadUkrainian military medic Alina Mykhailova said in a post on Facebook: "No one sent us there either, but for some reason, we are there. If you don’t like it, give up your citizenship and go to hell.”"
https://www.politico.eu/article/blatantly-illegal-zelenskyy-government-under-fire-for-refusing-issue-consulate-services-ukrainian-men-abroad/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/blatantly-illegal-zelenskyy-government-under-fire-for-refusing-issue-consulate-services-ukrainian-men-abroad/)
… peace is always better alternative then something what can escalate to WW3…
As Russian Troops Broke Through Ukrainian Lines, Panicky Ukrainian Commanders Had No Choice But To Deploy One Of Their Least-Prepared BrigadesIt's not clear what this article is about.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/24/as-russian-troops-broke-through-ukrainian-lines-panicky-ukrainian-commanders-had-no-choice-but-to-deploy-one-of-their-least-prepared-brigades/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/24/as-russian-troops-broke-through-ukrainian-lines-panicky-ukrainian-commanders-had-no-choice-but-to-deploy-one-of-their-least-prepared-brigades/)
Some kind of rumors, speculation, gossip. How can this Forbes know what is happening on every meter of the front.
I am monitoring the situation at the front from various sources, I have not heard anything like this.
I looked at the primary sources, there are no such problems as are written about in forbes. I think Forbes is distributing either Russian propaganda or propaganda from US Democrats to promote the aid that Biden signed. For this PR, Forbes invents a non-existent problem.As Russian Troops Broke Through Ukrainian Lines, Panicky Ukrainian Commanders Had No Choice But To Deploy One Of Their Least-Prepared BrigadesIt's not clear what this article is about.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/24/as-russian-troops-broke-through-ukrainian-lines-panicky-ukrainian-commanders-had-no-choice-but-to-deploy-one-of-their-least-prepared-brigades/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/04/24/as-russian-troops-broke-through-ukrainian-lines-panicky-ukrainian-commanders-had-no-choice-but-to-deploy-one-of-their-least-prepared-brigades/)
The article is about a Russian break-in that may develop into a break through, seemingly caused by problems with rotating troops on the Ukrainian side.Some kind of rumors, speculation, gossip. How can this Forbes know what is happening on every meter of the front.
Forbes is not a person, but a magazine and they have means of confirming information.
And they are not the only ones reporting this.
There is for example also an article on the German news site Spiegel Online. They cite Ukrainian and Russian bloggers as a source.
https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/russlands-krieg-gegen-die-ukraine-gefaehrliche-lage-im-donbass-koennen-sich-die-ukrainer-stabilisieren-oder-droht-der-durchbruch-a-49d14941-7a32-401c-b11c-693d6c9d1339 (https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/russlands-krieg-gegen-die-ukraine-gefaehrliche-lage-im-donbass-koennen-sich-die-ukrainer-stabilisieren-oder-droht-der-durchbruch-a-49d14941-7a32-401c-b11c-693d6c9d1339)I am monitoring the situation at the front from various sources, I have not heard anything like this.
If you have not heard about it, it is probably true.
GOP critics vow no more US aid for Ukraine
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4619185-gop-critics-vow-no-more-us-aid-for-ukraine/amp/
Putin ‘likely’ didn’t order Navalny’s death in February, US agencies believe: WSJThis is Russian propaganda, KGB propaganda and propaganda of US Democrats (friends of the Russians). Biden wants putin to support him in the election, so the US is spreading these lies. If such lies are spread by the CIA, then the CIA is working for US Democrats.
https://www.politico.eu/article/alexei-navalny-vladimir-putin-death-order-russia/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/alexei-navalny-vladimir-putin-death-order-russia/)
Ok, lets get some things straight.
Forbes is a 100+ year old American business magazine. Its editor-in-chief is Steve Forbes who is a conservative and Republican, who also has run for the GOP's presidential nomination twice!
WSJ is the Wall Street Journal, another American business publication and owned by Rupert Murdoch, a well-known conservative who also owns Fox News, and supports the Republican party and Trump. He also has a long history and association with Putin.
Ok, lets get some things straight.And what did you want to say with this reference information? ;D
Forbes is a 100+ year old American business magazine. Its editor-in-chief is Steve Forbes who is a conservative and Republican, who also has run for the GOP's presidential nomination twice!
WSJ is the Wall Street Journal, another American business publication and owned by Rupert Murdoch, a well-known conservative who also owns Fox News, and supports the Republican party and Trump. He also has a long history and association with Putin.
As for Ocheretyne, this line of defense is under the control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and this is the main thing.
Unfortunately, Ocheretyne is now virtually under russian control.1. Quote from the Ukrainian newspaper to which you referred and which repeat my words.
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/27/7453297/ (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/27/7453297/)
Poland and Lithuania pledge to help Kyiv repatriate Ukrainians subject to military draft+100
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/25/poland-and-lithuania-pledge-to-help-kyiv-repatriate-ukrainians-subject-to-military-draft (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/25/poland-and-lithuania-pledge-to-help-kyiv-repatriate-ukrainians-subject-to-military-draft)
… you should ask yourself why they are not returning by goodwill… I see lot of young aukrainians through the EU, having the best times of their life… enjoying in great cars and in popular destinations clubs…Poland and Lithuania pledge to help Kyiv repatriate Ukrainians subject to military draft+100
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/25/poland-and-lithuania-pledge-to-help-kyiv-repatriate-ukrainians-subject-to-military-draft (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/25/poland-and-lithuania-pledge-to-help-kyiv-repatriate-ukrainians-subject-to-military-draft)
Europarasites! Return all Ukrainians to Ukraine!
… you will have to recheck your sources, because infos provided by them are critically suspicious… if you need some, just ask… :)https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2024/04/27/7453297/ (https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2024/04/27/7453297/)
War, politics of Ukraine, policy of Europarasites to steal human resources in Ukraine. There are many answers to your question.… you should ask yourself why they are not returning by goodwill… I see lot of young aukrainians through the EU, having the best times of their life… enjoying in great cars and in popular destinations clubs…Poland and Lithuania pledge to help Kyiv repatriate Ukrainians subject to military draft+100
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/25/poland-and-lithuania-pledge-to-help-kyiv-repatriate-ukrainians-subject-to-military-draft (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/25/poland-and-lithuania-pledge-to-help-kyiv-repatriate-ukrainians-subject-to-military-draft)
Europarasites! Return all Ukrainians to Ukraine!
Ukraine pulls US-provided Abrams tanks from the front lines over Russian drone threats31 tanks from US Democrats is certainly a large number. Biden “thank you” for the 31 tanks sent to Ukraine in January 2023. And what a nightmare, as many as 5 tanks were destroyed by the Russians. These are such huge losses...
https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-abrams-tanks-19d71475d427875653a2130063a8fb7a
… don’t be modest - few aircraft carriers, hundred x-wings and tie fighters… and you will be on the right path…Ukraine pulls US-provided Abrams tanks from the front lines over Russian drone threats31 tanks from US Democrats is certainly a large number. Biden “thank you” for the 31 tanks sent to Ukraine in January 2023. And what a nightmare, as many as 5 tanks were destroyed by the Russians. These are such huge losses...
https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-abrams-tanks-19d71475d427875653a2130063a8fb7a
Once again, tanks without the support of fighter aircrafts and helicopters are worth nothing, zero. US Democrats do not give Ukraine F16 and helicopters.
For reference: the Russians have thousands of tanks versus 31 tanks given by stupid democrats.
US Democrats - fuck you!
"Quote from Voloshyn: "The enemy managed to break through and establish a foothold in a certain part of this settlement [Ocheretyne – ed.]. Currently, the unit in which the enemy is located is under our fire control.
Don’t just assume Trump will back Russia, says Polish foreign minister+100
https://www.politico.eu/article/dont-just-assume-trump-will-back-russia-says-polish-minister/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/dont-just-assume-trump-will-back-russia-says-polish-minister/)
1. You don’t understand military terminology and don’t understand what I’m writing. You look
"Quote from Voloshyn: "The enemy managed to break through and establish a foothold in a certain part of this settlement [Ocheretyne – ed.]. Currently, the unit in which the enemy is located is under our fire control.
Your poor comprehension of written words and your wishful thinking are already notorious.
"Under fire control" doesn't mean under control.
"Under fire control" means the russians have occupied it, and the Ukrainians are shooting at them.
Both that well-informed (unlike you) vlogger and pravda.com.ua have published the same map.
Check it again (attached), and you'll realise the sad consequences of your dear maga clowns anti-Ukraine policies: many Ukrainian lives, precious equipment (about to be paraded in Moscow) and land lost in the battle of Avdiivka and the subsequent russian advance all the way into Ocheretyne.
"Just minor problems" muffles stoker with his head in the sand.
… fights in Netailove are in progress at the moment… because of water basins in Karlovka… colapse of front was expected, because of insuficient potential of army rotations…No, there is no need to blame the Ukrainian Armed Forces for doing something wrong. The Ukrainian Armed Forces have no aviation, no missiles and no tanks. Also, the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not have as many soldiers as russia has. If Europarasites think that Ukraine will throw living people under Russian tanks, then Ukraine will most likely tell all Europarasites to go to hell.
Rusia aprende de los errores militares en Ucrania y perfecciona su ejércitoIf they write about the mistakes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then this article was ordered by the KGB.
https://elpais.com/internacional/2024-04-28/rusia-aprende-de-los-errores-militares-en-ucrania-y-perfecciona-su-ejercito.html
3. US Democrats are forcing Ukraine to fight with Russian methods of the First World War
Everything you wrote is lies and propaganda of US democrats and Russians.
3. US Democrats are forcing Ukraine to fight with Russian methods of the First World War
For too many months, before Mike Johnson woke up and allowed the bill meant to supply Ukraine with desperately needed weapons to be voted on with Democratic unanimity, your dear maga clowns forced Ukraine to fight not only outnumbered but also outgunned and without ammunition.
This is why Avdiivka and now Ocheretyne have been lost, and even more land will be lost in the coming days until the delayed weapons reach the front line.
What is even worse is that many Ukrainians unnecessarily died because of your maga darlings isolationist policies: "minor problems," say putin's useful idiots.
Situation on frontline has worsened, Ukraine army chief saysWhen reading this article, you need to understand what Gen Syrskyi said directly and what is propaganda from US Democrats. In fact, Gen Syrskyi said very little. Because he is not allowed to say whatever he thinks about Biden.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68916317.amp (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68916317.amp)
… your country is in the gap between two giants… they are pushing their interests and you are paying huge price because of that…No, Ukraine is unlucky that the in US is in power with cowards, bast.ards and democrats (friends of the Russians). Also, the EU is a union of Europarasites.
Ukraine-Kommandanten warnen: «Der Donbass fällt im Oktober»I couldn't read the whole article. The text breaks off. Post the text here.
https://www.blick.ch/ausland/trotz-us-milliardenhilfe-ukraine-kommandanten-warnen-der-donbass-faellt-im-oktober-id19681414.html (https://www.blick.ch/ausland/trotz-us-milliardenhilfe-ukraine-kommandanten-warnen-der-donbass-faellt-im-oktober-id19681414.html)
Crooked Joe Biden is not a “decent” person. He is a lifetime chronic liar in cognitive decline — and corrupt to the core.
He has spent his career selling out the American people to the highest bidder and enabling his degenerate family to profit off his name and connections.
He has used his presidential power to target anyone with whom he disagrees — and is currently attempting to jail his political rival.
On his rare days of lucidity and coherency, he will cheat, steal, and lie — knowing he’ll forever be protected by his allies in the media and the bureaucracy.
He’ll say whatever to whomever if it means getting another vote. There is no bottom to which this pathological liar will not stoop; not a word he says can be trusted.
There’s nothing he will not make up — demonstrably lying in virtually every public appearance, knowing he’ll never be held to account, no matter how egregious the falsehood.
He’s a shell of a man propped up by an establishment of power-hungry Democrats seeking control.
Biden is an embarrassment to our country.
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1784429572273877068
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… you are saying that you are not pesimistic wherever you are, but they are on frontline…?! Whose opinion is more important…?!The soldier on the front line does not know what the General Staff and military experts know. The soldier only sees his narrow section of the front, and his eye sees only what the aim of his weapon shows. The soldier does not see the whole picture, both military and political.
You are a poor spiteful creature who is not worthy of a democracy, his people, his fatherland and the society in his country.:'( :'( :'(
Everything you wrote is lies and propaganda of US democrats and Russians.
Islamists take over Hamburg, Germany.… you can understand why they are not willing to give their weapons anymore…
Hundreds of Islamists have taken to the streets in a show of force against the local German population.
The group demanded Germany be turned into an Islamic Capiphate.
Video
https://twitter.com/i/status/1784297130942714262
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Europarasites are pursuing the same policies as US Democrats.
;D ;D ;D
Europarasites still denies the fact that there is a third world war. Soon the Islamists will evict the Germans from their homes. ;D ;D ;DIslamists take over Hamburg, Germany.… you can understand why they are not willing to give their weapons anymore…
Hundreds of Islamists have taken to the streets in a show of force against the local German population.
The group demanded Germany be turned into an Islamic Capiphate.
Video
https://twitter.com/i/status/1784297130942714262
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Europarasites are pursuing the same policies as US Democrats.
;D ;D ;D
… internal problems of DE are not a reason to celebrate… you have to understand that whole world have their problems, your wishes of WW3 and EU concquered by Russians are unreal…No problem. Let the Europarasites continue to tell the citizens of their countries that everything is normal and there is no war. And that Russians are friends of Germany and the EU. ;D
Communists with Ukrainian flags, always voting the way KGB agent Biden tells them.
The US Democratic Party is a fascist party. Only in fascist parties everyone votes the same way, as their Fuhrer tells them.
The Republican Party of the United States is a democratic party in which party members have the right to have their own opinions and promote policies for the benefit of the people of the United States.
Only putin's useful idiots would say that Ukraine does not need the support of the people of the United States.In the presidential election, the people of the United States will vote for Trump, and rightly so.
Ukraine retreats from Donetsk villages, citing lack of ammo
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-army-withdraw-three-villages-donetsk-russia-lack-ammo-zelenskyy/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-army-withdraw-three-villages-donetsk-russia-lack-ammo-zelenskyy/)
Ukraine is now outgunned 10:1 or so.Under US Democrats, Russians have always had an advantage over Ukraine.
Ukraine retreats from Donetsk villages, citing lack of ammoThese are tactics. The Ukrainian Armed Forces is a mobile army that performs maneuvers. It is not advisable to stand to the death for every settlement, unless of course it is a height or a fortified city. With the help that the Democrats gave, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, at best, will only be able to defend themselves and periodically retreat.
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-army-withdraw-three-villages-donetsk-russia-lack-ammo-zelenskyy/ (https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-army-withdraw-three-villages-donetsk-russia-lack-ammo-zelenskyy/)
Ukraine is now outgunned 10:1 or so.Under US Democrats, Russians have always had an advantage over Ukraine.
Another lie and propaganda from Democratic Party trolls.Ukraine is now outgunned 10:1 or so.Under US Democrats, Russians have always had an advantage over Ukraine.
Your poor understanding of democratic principles is preventing you from realizing that the US is NOT "under Democrats."
The House of Representatives holds significant decision-making power in the US, and it is currently "under Republican" control.
They are the reason the weapons supplies from Ukraine were delayed for far too long.
But putin's useful idiots have been brainwashed to believe that maga is good for Ukraine, despite overwhelming evidence proving the contrary.
Another lie and propaganda from Democratic Party trolls.What your poor comprehension skills prevent you from realizing is that the report you are referring to was not made by maga, which is now controlling the Republican Party.
Everyone knows that in 2022, the Republicans forced Biden to sign the Lend-Lease law for Ukraine. Biden, of course, signed it, but put zero weapons under this law. The same applies to the transfer of aviation and missiles to Ukraine. In this topic, I already provided a link to the Republican proposals and their victory plan for Ukraine. But KGB agent Biden did not comply with these proposals.
The President of the United States decides who is given how many and what kind of weapons. Biden works for putin, and expects support from putin in the US elections. This is all you need to know about Biden and the US Democrats.
US Democrats - fuck you!
The democrat troll no longer knows how to get out of it because Biden did not give Ukraine the necessary weapons. Due to the fault of Biden and the Democrats, people are dying in Ukraine and the territory is occupied. But for some reason the Republicans are to blame.Another lie and propaganda from Democratic Party trolls.What your poor comprehension skills prevent you from realizing is that the report you are referring to was not made by maga, which is now controlling the Republican Party.
Everyone knows that in 2022, the Republicans forced Biden to sign the Lend-Lease law for Ukraine. Biden, of course, signed it, but put zero weapons under this law. The same applies to the transfer of aviation and missiles to Ukraine. In this topic, I already provided a link to the Republican proposals and their victory plan for Ukraine. But KGB agent Biden did not comply with these proposals.
The President of the United States decides who is given how many and what kind of weapons. Biden works for putin, and expects support from putin in the US elections. This is all you need to know about Biden and the US Democrats.
US Democrats - fuck you!
That report was made by three old-school republicans who are part of the 100 minority who voted for Ukraine, while the maga majority of 112 voted against it.
You should be so thankful for the unanimous Democrat vote which, combined with the old-school Republican minority vote (including the 3 authors of that report), succeeded in approving military aid for Ukraine.
Only putin's useful idiots believe that maga isolationist clowns, who now control the Republican Party, will ever vote in favor of Ukraine.
You should be so thankful for the unanimous Democrat vote which
You should be so thankful for the unanimous Democrat vote which
Democrats - go to he.ll with your meager help and pro-Russian policies.
Meanwhile, the Ukrainian defense is in hell because of the maga isolationist policies that prevented them from accessing the weapons and ammunition Biden, the Democrats and the old-school Republican minority were ready to send to the front line, many months ago.This is a lie and propaganda of democrats and Russians.
maga will vote against Ukraine, no matter what.Democratic propaganda. But this propaganda will not help the bas.tard Biden in the election. You are being paid money for your posts in vain.
Democratic propaganda.
This is the result of the cowardly and pro-Russian policies of Biden and the Democrats:Democratic propaganda.This is not propaganda.
This is the reality putin's useful idiots are brainwashed to reject.
From Kyiv Independent:The article was written at the request of the US Democrats.
"While Putin doubtless will have prepared for new offensive operations, I suspect he has been banking more on Trump riding to the rescue than on his own forces."
Defying Trumpian isolationists and Putin appeasers on their own side of the aisle, congressional Republicans, along with the Democrats, have approved the support that Ukrainians have desperately been awaiting.
https://kyivindependent.com/opinion-trump-is-putins-only-hope-now/
The democrat troll no longer knows how to get out of it because Biden did not give Ukraine the necessary weapons. Due to the fault of Biden and the Democrats, people are dying in Ukraine and the territory is occupied. But for some reason the Republicans are to blame.Another lie and propaganda from Democratic Party trolls.What your poor comprehension skills prevent you from realizing is that the report you are referring to was not made by maga, which is now controlling the Republican Party.
Everyone knows that in 2022, the Republicans forced Biden to sign the Lend-Lease law for Ukraine. Biden, of course, signed it, but put zero weapons under this law. The same applies to the transfer of aviation and missiles to Ukraine. In this topic, I already provided a link to the Republican proposals and their victory plan for Ukraine. But KGB agent Biden did not comply with these proposals.
The President of the United States decides who is given how many and what kind of weapons. Biden works for putin, and expects support from putin in the US elections. This is all you need to know about Biden and the US Democrats.
US Democrats - fuck you!
That report was made by three old-school republicans who are part of the 100 minority who voted for Ukraine, while the maga majority of 112 voted against it.
You should be so thankful for the unanimous Democrat vote which, combined with the old-school Republican minority vote (including the 3 authors of that report), succeeded in approving military aid for Ukraine.
Only putin's useful idiots believe that maga isolationist clowns, who now control the Republican Party, will ever vote in favor of Ukraine.
Are the Democrat trolls idiots? The answer is idiots. ;D ;D ;D
As for these maga, which are the only ones the Democratic trolls talk about, it was these maga who also forced Biden to sign the Lend-Lease law.
According to this article, Gazprom has made a loss for the first time in 25 years. The net loss for 2023 is expected to amount to 6.4 billion euros.
If this is true, the attempt to cover the losses incurred in trade with Europe by selling to China has not worked either.
https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/gazprom-meldet-rekordverlust-von-6-4-milliarden-euro-im-jahr-2023-a-5c43cc20-7939-418b-8ef5-7c33e0909850 (https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/gazprom-meldet-rekordverlust-von-6-4-milliarden-euro-im-jahr-2023-a-5c43cc20-7939-418b-8ef5-7c33e0909850)
… I’m now officially worried - where is our friend, Stoker…?!Do you have any specific question for me? ;D ;D ;D
US temporarily approves energy transactions with major Russian banks
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/30/7453599/index.amp (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/30/7453599/index.amp)
When Trump threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine, he got impeached.
Biden is actually withholding aid to Israel right now and Republicans aren’t going to impeach him?
I don’t care if you disagree with what Israel is doing. This is irrelevant. What’s relevant is we have a chance to score points against Biden and we’re not doing it?
COME ON, REPUBLICANS!
https://twitter.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/status/1788605987022131278
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Russia opened a new front invading from the north of Kharkiv now, occupying Ukrainian territory, while putin's useful idiots from Ukraine care about American politics...
When Trump threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine, he got impeached.
1. Reread my posts in this topic again.Russia opened a new front invading from the north of Kharkiv now, occupying Ukrainian territory, while putin's useful idiots from Ukraine care about American politics...
And that's the right thing to do. People should indeed be worried about the good numbers for Trump.
Not least because many of the current negative developments for Ukraine would not have taken place in the first place if the Trump supporters had released the funds for the Ukraine aid earlier.
I think that putin said the truth
I think that putin said the truth
Of course. That's what putin's useful idiots think they think.
When Trump threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine, he got impeached.
Trump was never impeached. Do you even know what that means?
When Trump threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine, he got impeached.
Trump was never impeached. Do you even know what that means?
Trump was impeached twice, he just wasn't convicted.
Czech President calls Ukraine's hopes to regain occupied territories naiveThis is the fate that awaits putin’s friends:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/05/15/7455934/index.amp (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/05/15/7455934/index.amp)
… and you are fine with that, thinking it’s funny…?!Czech President calls Ukraine's hopes to regain occupied territories naiveThis is the fate that awaits putin’s friends:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/05/15/7455934/index.amp (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/05/15/7455934/index.amp)
Pro-Russia Slovakian leader Robert Fico SHOT and ‘fighting for life’ after assassination attempt.
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As far as I understand, 5 bullets were fired at him, three bullets successfully hit the target.
(https://i.ibb.co/bPyrP7K/IMG-20240129-143401-914.jpg)
… and you are fine with that, thinking it’s funny+100
Here aIt's a lie! Only three bullets hit the target.HUMANKGB agent was shot in the head, thorax and abdomen with 5 shots.
I see here on the forum how Europarasites defend putin’s friends.
Trump! Crush the Europarasites!