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« Reply #1325 on: September 06, 2023, 03:08 »
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About Russian crimes.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/03/world/europe/ukraine-dam-flooding-damage.html


« Reply #1326 on: September 06, 2023, 08:54 »
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Russia hits Kostiantynivka (Ukraine) killing at least 16 people.

https://youtu.be/vogf24QwUm8

Quote from Zelenskyy: "When anyone in the world still tries to deal with anything of Russian nature, it means turning a blind eye to reality. The audacity of evil. The audacity of meanness. Full-scale inhumanity.

By now, Russian terrorists' artillery has killed 16 people in the town of Kostiantynivka, Donetsk Oblast. It was an ordinary market. Shops. A pharmacy. People who did nothing wrong. Many were wounded. Unfortunately, the number of people killed and injured may increase."

Russians are orcs who only know how to fight against women and children.


« Reply #1327 on: September 06, 2023, 10:02 »
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What actually surprised me was the fact that you can become president in the U.S. despite having a criminal record.


Here, it is almost a requirement... :(

« Reply #1328 on: September 08, 2023, 03:17 »
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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.html

Elon Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his companys Starlink satellite communications network near the Crimean coast last year to disrupt a Ukrainian sneak attack on the Russian naval fleet, according to an excerpt adapted from Walter Isaacsons new biography of the eccentric billionaire titled Elon Musk.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

« Reply #1329 on: September 08, 2023, 03:19 »
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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/06/europe/russia-aircraft-car-tires-ukraine-drones-intl-hnk

Russia is covering aircraft with car tires, potentially to protect them from Ukrainian drones

 ;D ;D ;D ;D


Russian aircraft will now burn better.  8)




« Reply #1330 on: September 08, 2023, 03:27 »
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Chinese singers came to the occupied Ukrainian territory to support the Russian murderers. Russian songs are sung on the ruins of a theater in Mariupol.

https://www.facebook.com/1090077030/videos/1957610274632108/

« Reply #1331 on: September 09, 2023, 01:27 »
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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.html

Elon Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his companys Starlink satellite communications network near the Crimean coast last year to disrupt a Ukrainian sneak attack on the Russian naval fleet, according to an excerpt adapted from Walter Isaacsons new biography of the eccentric billionaire titled Elon Musk.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Again, fake after fake and you broadcast them all here.
Maybe its better to read Elon Musk himself?
"There was an emergency request from government authorities to activate Starlink all the way to Sevastopol.
The obvious intent being to sink most of the Russian fleet at anchor.
If I had agreed to their request, then SpaceX would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation.
"
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1699917639043404146

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #1332 on: September 09, 2023, 06:11 »
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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.html

Elon Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his companys Starlink satellite communications network near the Crimean coast last year to disrupt a Ukrainian sneak attack on the Russian naval fleet, according to an excerpt adapted from Walter Isaacsons new biography of the eccentric billionaire titled Elon Musk.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Again, fake after fake and you broadcast them all here.
Maybe its better to read Elon Musk himself?
"There was an emergency request from government authorities to activate Starlink all the way to Sevastopol.
The obvious intent being to sink most of the Russian fleet at anchor.
If I had agreed to their request, then SpaceX would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation.
"
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1699917639043404146

I don't understand this exchange. You both just stated the pretty much same thing.

A request was made which Musk denied preventing an attack on Russia's fleet.

One thinks it was morally right one thinks it was wrong. Which part is fake? The part where he said it was "secret"? I mean it was in the sense that the broader public is only hearing about it now.


Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #1333 on: September 09, 2023, 06:12 »
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...
Maybe its better to read Elon Musk himself?...
Given his track record this is the worst idea of all if you want the truth.

« Reply #1334 on: September 09, 2023, 09:02 »
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Which part is fake?
How can you turn off something that was not turned on? Of course this is another fake!
Take a look at the Starlink network coverage map:


If I choose who to believe, cnn or Musk, I trust the latter more. But you can trust cnn. I no longer see the point in arguing about matters of faith. The only thing I want to say is that you should not believe any propaganda from any country involved in the conflict.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2023, 09:10 by zastavkin »

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #1335 on: September 09, 2023, 09:06 »
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Which part is fake?
How can you turn off something that was not turned on? Of course this is another fake!
Take a look at the Starlink network coverage map:

Okay, got ya, I understand the disagreement now. They were asking for it to be extended, which Musk refused to do, rather than actively turning it off. It still prevented the attack, but I can see it is different.


« Reply #1336 on: September 09, 2023, 09:54 »
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Elon Musk is a friend of the Russians and the Russian empire. He also works for putin. He has already held a referendum on the territorial integrity of Ukraine on Twitter. Believing what Elon Musk says is the same as believing what Trump says, for example. Naturally, this Russian agent will deny a lot.
As for the rashists and Russian trolls, they support people like Elon Musk.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2023, 10:00 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #1337 on: September 09, 2023, 10:04 »
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I understand the disagreement now. They were asking for it to be extended, which Musk refused to do, rather than actively turning it off. It still prevented the attack, but I can see it is different.
"Elon Musk secretly ordered his engineers to turn off his companys Starlink satellite communications network near the Crimean coast"

We are not talking about Crimea as a land area, we are talking about the Black Sea near Crimea. And yes, this Elon Musk is doing a lot for the benefit of Russian terrorists.
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

He's probably working on russia's support for Trump.

« Reply #1338 on: September 09, 2023, 10:06 »
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Which part is fake?
How can you turn off something that was not turned on? Of course this is another fake!
Take a look at the Starlink network coverage map:

Okay, got ya, I understand the disagreement now. They were asking for it to be extended, which Musk refused to do, rather than actively turning it off. It still prevented the attack, but I can see it is different.

In fact, it is rather likely that Musk is afraid that the russians will target his satellite fleet, if he allows it to be used in areas occupied by russia.
His appeasement tweets are triggered by self interest, by fears for for his property integrity, by business interests, not by his grandstanding concern for world peace, he wants the public to believe.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2023, 14:48 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #1339 on: September 09, 2023, 10:09 »
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« Reply #1340 on: September 09, 2023, 10:11 »
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Zero Talent,  ::) ::)
better start with the fact that Musk is a Trump fan.

« Reply #1341 on: September 09, 2023, 10:12 »
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« Reply #1342 on: September 09, 2023, 10:13 »
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Zero Talent,  ::) ::)
better start with the fact that Musk is a Trump fan.

Good to see that you finally realized how dangerous trump is for Ukraine's future.  ;)

« Reply #1343 on: September 09, 2023, 10:17 »
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Zero Talent,  ::) ::)
better start with the fact that Musk is a Trump fan.

Good to see that you finally realized how dangerous trump is for Ukraine's future.  ;)
I believe in the Republican Party. As I already wrote, Trump is just a clown who brings the Republicans to power.
I am very dissatisfied with the policies of the Democrats. We need more sanctions against Russians. Ukraine needs F16, needs long-range missiles, needs missiles with cluster munitions. Lend-Lease didn't start working under Biden. I think Democrats are cowards.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2023, 10:20 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #1344 on: September 09, 2023, 10:22 »
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Germany, Magdeburg. A good gift for Ukraine. Germans, great!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1700190971051327683

« Reply #1345 on: September 09, 2023, 11:34 »
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Elon Musk: "Ive donated $100M to Ukraine, how much have you donated?"
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1650008972865224704

Elon Musk is a friend of the Russians and the Russian empire. He also works for putin.

Your gratitude is limitless!

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #1346 on: September 09, 2023, 12:04 »
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Elon Musk: "Ive donated $100M to Ukraine, how much have you donated?"
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1650008972865224704

Elon Musk is a friend of the Russians and the Russian empire. He also works for putin.

Your gratitude is limitless!
Again, trusting Elon Musk about anything is a bad mistake.

He is a total BS artist and you can bet he didn't give anything without getting more back in return.

This is a guy who wont even pay rent or severance his workers are legally entitled to.

« Reply #1347 on: September 09, 2023, 12:21 »
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A cartoon has already been made about Elon Musk, showing how everything really happened.
 >:( >:( >:(

https://youtu.be/txSxSHHqOJo

Maximum repost!

« Reply #1348 on: September 09, 2023, 13:23 »
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I believe in the Republican Party. As I already wrote, Trump is just a clown who brings the Republicans to power.

Believing that a party led by a clown will give US, Ukraine and the world anything but a circus is highly delusional!  ::)
« Last Edit: September 09, 2023, 13:26 by Zero Talent »

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #1349 on: September 09, 2023, 15:11 »
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From this:
https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/07/elon-musk-ordered-starlink-turned-off-ukraine-offensive-biography

Sounds like stocker was more accurate and he did actually turn  it off during an operation. They were pleading with him to turn it back on.

Seems like he wasn't interested in helping Ukraine repel Russia as a whole but just wanted to "give" Russia a particular amount of Ukraine's territory. He thought Ukraine was going too far in beating back Russia as much as they did. The guy's Messiah complex is insane.


 

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