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« Reply #1475 on: September 28, 2023, 13:06 »
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« Reply #1476 on: September 28, 2023, 13:10 »
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« Reply #1477 on: September 28, 2023, 14:12 »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEDYcrWn4Pc

Elimination of Russian orcs.
Andriivka, Ukraine: close combat and clearing of a destroyed village.

Continuation of the combat operation of the soldiers of the Third Assault Brigade to liberate Andriivka settlement of Donetsk region. Video footage from GoPro cameras of fighters of the 2nd Assault Battalion.

After the first buildings of the village were taken the day before, the stormtroopers began to move deep into the settlement and clear the basements of the destroyed buildings, destroying the occupiers from the 72nd omsbr of the Russian Federation. At the ruins of Andriivka, the soldiers of the 3rd OShBr are engaged in close-range shooting battles when the enemy is "in the house opposite", and they go forward, fulfilling the task, under constant artillery fire.

Assault and sweep continues all day. When the sun is almost hidden behind the horizon, the fighters take a break, summing up the first results of the day's battles and preparing to move on.


In the subtitles you can choose an English translation. Loud screams are mainly obscene language addressed to the Russians and an offer to the Russians to surrender.


Glory to Ukraine!

« Reply #1478 on: September 29, 2023, 07:00 »
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A lot of words, but you still have not named the parties:

Which party has always voted unanimously to support Ukraine, and which party is relentlessly attempting to stop all aid, by trying to get anti-Ukraine bills passed in the Congress?

Here is the a speech from a few moments ago:

https://youtu.be/zPitEXBh06s

Rest assured that you will never get this from trump nor any other maga republican!
We've already talked about this. You are passing off a small group of Republicans as the entire Republican Party. Yes, there are different people in the Republican Party, perhaps this adds votes to the party in elections. But these people are very few. Also, not only Republicans, but also Democrats vote in Congress. Democrats can only talk and vote. When the Republicans take power, this will be enough from the Democrats.


Recent vote (september 27th): a majority of Republicans in the House voted against Ukraine.
The number is growing (as I told you) and will continue to grow (as I'm telling you)  ;)



« Last Edit: September 29, 2023, 07:36 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #1479 on: September 29, 2023, 07:35 »
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Tucker Carlson finds a new booster: Russian TV.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/25/tucker-carlson-takes-dubbing-debut-russia-show/

Of course.
Carlson is a maga republican darling.

His deep anti-Ukraine positions resonate very well with maga republican voters and their maga republican representatives, the same way they resonate with russian "voters".

No surprise, here.

« Reply #1480 on: September 29, 2023, 09:49 »
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Recent vote (september 27th): a majority of Republicans in the House voted against Ukraine.
The number is growing (as I told you) and will continue to grow (as I'm telling you)  ;)
You are interpreting this vote in a way that benefits the Democrats. Republicans are not against Ukraine, they are against Biden's policies and the Democrats' policies.
Why allow Biden to spend money if that money is being spent ineffectively and incorrectly? This is a signal to Biden.
Biden has 1 more year, he can change his policy and make Ukraine's victory over russia real. In this case, Biden will have a chance to win the next election in 2024. I don't think US citizens like a president who doesn't want to help Ukraine defeat the Russians.
Your Zero Talent posts are only black and white, without delving into the essence of the problem.

« Reply #1481 on: September 29, 2023, 09:51 »
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Tucker Carlson finds a new booster: Russian TV.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/25/tucker-carlson-takes-dubbing-debut-russia-show/

Of course.
Carlson is a maga republican darling.

His deep anti-Ukraine positions resonate very well with maga republican voters and their maga republican representatives, the same way they resonate with russian "voters".

No surprise, here.
Do you have statistics on what percentage of Republican voters watch this Carlson?

« Reply #1482 on: September 29, 2023, 09:56 »
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Zero Talent, you are a reasonable person and understand what problems and threats Ukraine faces. You must also understand that the President of the United States is not a storyteller or a singer; what is needed is not words, but real and effective help. You also have to understand that if Biden does not provide this assistance, he will not have support among people who are against russia and understand the essence of the problems.

« Reply #1483 on: September 29, 2023, 09:58 »
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You are interpreting this vote in a way that benefits the Democrats. Republicans are not against Ukraine, they are against Biden's policies and the Democrats' policies.

No. It's the other way around.
Many Republicans are ready to vote these bills, as long as the Ukraine aid is removed from them.
Example from a prominent republican below.

« Last Edit: September 29, 2023, 10:53 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #1484 on: September 29, 2023, 11:32 »
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... and more republican examples to make him happier:
« Last Edit: September 29, 2023, 13:25 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #1485 on: September 30, 2023, 02:23 »
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Many Republicans are ready to vote these bills, as long as the Ukraine aid is removed from them.
Example from a prominent republican below.
The election campaign is in full swing in the United States. Republicans consider the Democrats' policies to be ineffective; these are normal things for the United States. Ukraine does not need money, I have already written about this many times. Ukraine needs aviation and missiles, which the cowardly democrats do not want to give.
You are using Ukraine as a weapon in the election fight against the Republicans. It looks dirty.
There is no need to give Democrats the opportunity to spend taxpayers' money on unknown things. Let Biden begin to implement the Lend-Lease that he signed more than a year ago.
Fuck the Democrats.

« Reply #1486 on: September 30, 2023, 05:23 »
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Many Republicans are ready to vote these bills, as long as the Ukraine aid is removed from them.
Example from a prominent republican below.
The election campaign is in full swing in the United States. Republicans consider the Democrats' policies to be ineffective; these are normal things for the United States. Ukraine does not need money, I have already written about this many times. Ukraine needs aviation and missiles, which the cowardly democrats do not want to give.
You are using Ukraine as a weapon in the election fight against the Republicans. It looks dirty.
There is no need to give Democrats the opportunity to spend taxpayers' money on unknown things. Let Biden begin to implement the Lend-Lease that he signed more than a year ago.
Fuck the Democrats.
You don't want to see the truth, even when the evidence is screaming in your face, because it's against your deep rooted beliefs.
All weapons Ukraine needs, be them aviation or missiles are costing American taxpayers money.
That's the spending a majority of Republicans is against.

Like you, I care about putin's defeat.
But unlike you, I understand how Amercan politics work.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2023, 05:31 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #1487 on: September 30, 2023, 05:30 »
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KGB agent Merkel demands something from the US President. This photo alone is enough to understand that Trump is better than the cowardly Biden.

« Reply #1488 on: September 30, 2023, 05:32 »
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Many Republicans are ready to vote these bills, as long as the Ukraine aid is removed from them.
Example from a prominent republican below.
The election campaign is in full swing in the United States. Republicans consider the Democrats' policies to be ineffective; these are normal things for the United States. Ukraine does not need money, I have already written about this many times. Ukraine needs aviation and missiles, which the cowardly democrats do not want to give.
You are using Ukraine as a weapon in the election fight against the Republicans. It looks dirty.
There is no need to give Democrats the opportunity to spend taxpayers' money on unknown things. Let Biden begin to implement the Lend-Lease that he signed more than a year ago.
Fuck the Democrats.
You don't want to see the truth, because it's against your deep rooted beliefs, even when the evidence is screaming in your face.

All weapons Ukraine needs, be them aviation or missiles are costing American taxpayers money.
That's the spending a majority of Republicans is against.

Like you, I care about putin's defeat.
But unlike you, I understand how Amercan politics work.
What does the cowardly Democrat Biden even spend his money on? Where are the tanks, where are the aircraft, where are the missiles? All this is missing. The conclusion is simple, there is no need to give money to the Democrats, they spend it on God knows what. Let this money lie in the bank and wait for the Republicans to come to power.
Biden has been president for 4 years now. For a year and a half, Russians have been killing Ukrainians. Where are the weapons?

« Reply #1489 on: September 30, 2023, 05:41 »
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As I said, even when the evidence is screaming in your face, you refuse to ackowledge the reality.
The money was spent on things like this:

https://www.microstockgroup.com/off-topic/this-should-settle-some-different-opinions/msg592735/#msg592735

And the photo you think is in your favor is, in fact, 100% against your interest.
That photo is iconic because it represents the American isolationism under Trump. Look at at him with his arms crossed. The photo screams: let the whole world explode (the world includes Ukraine, fyi), I don't care. AMERICA first!
In other words, exactly what a majority of Republicans just voted for.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2023, 05:46 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #1490 on: September 30, 2023, 05:42 »
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Zero Talent,  :)

« Reply #1491 on: September 30, 2023, 05:45 »
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Zero Talent,
I don't know if the Republicans will win, but I don't mind them winning. Your arguments are not serious yet.
And as I said, Biden has 1 year. And for real action he no longer needs money, he just needs to allow the sending of aircraft, missiles and many tanks to Ukraine.

« Reply #1492 on: September 30, 2023, 16:52 »
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Zero Talent,
I don't know if the Republicans will win, but I don't mind them winning. Your arguments are not serious yet.
And as I said, Biden has 1 year. And for real action he no longer needs money, he just needs to allow the sending of aircraft, missiles and many tanks to Ukraine.

Just get in touch with your fellow Ukrainians who can see things clearly and understand which side of the American politics is the worst for Ukraine freedom and teritorial integrity.

Maybe they will convince you to get your head out of the sand:

« Last Edit: September 30, 2023, 20:28 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #1493 on: October 01, 2023, 02:08 »
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Just get in touch with your fellow Ukrainians who can see things clearly and understand which side of the American politics is the worst for Ukraine freedom and teritorial integrity.

Maybe they will convince you to get your head out of the sand:
You can read for yourself what they write in Ukraine. The topic is called "Lies and propaganda of bots of the US Democratic Party." Google translator will translate the topic into any language.

https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/zagaln-obgovorennya/brehnya-propaganda-ukranskih-botv-demokratichno-part-ssha/

and

https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/nformacjn-resursi/analz-statusu-mltarno-dopomogi-ssha-ukran/
« Last Edit: October 01, 2023, 02:13 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #1494 on: October 01, 2023, 02:39 »
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Democrats are the best friends of Russian fascists and putin. The Democrats' policy is aimed at preserving the Russian empire, occupying Ukraine and killing Ukrainians. These are the facts.

« Reply #1495 on: October 01, 2023, 04:46 »
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Just get in touch with your fellow Ukrainians who can see things clearly and understand which side of the American politics is the worst for Ukraine freedom and teritorial integrity.

Maybe they will convince you to get your head out of the sand:
You can read for yourself what they write in Ukraine. The topic is called "Lies and propaganda of bots of the US Democratic Party." Google translator will translate the topic into any language.

https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/zagaln-obgovorennya/brehnya-propaganda-ukranskih-botv-demokratichno-part-ssha/

and

https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/nformacjn-resursi/analz-statusu-mltarno-dopomogi-ssha-ukran/


Thanks for the links, at least now it's clear where you got your information and worldview. This forum of Ukrainian patriots, just like this thread, is dominated by the opinion of exactly one person - who is in possession of the only truth .
To sell this here as a general Ukrainian opinion is a very daring interpretation of one's own.

Apart from disliking and accusing Democrats and Biden, this same person also has a particular opinion on Covid vaccinations:

These vaccinations contribute to the depopulation of the world.

All right.  ;D
« Last Edit: October 01, 2023, 08:59 by RalfLiebhold »

« Reply #1496 on: October 01, 2023, 07:44 »
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The Ukraininan soldier, whose post I shared above stated:
A lot of russian psyops officers will get promotions as a result of what is happening today.

I was aware of two types of russian propoganda most of it based on the good old "divide et impera".

- one designed for internal use centered on the non-existence of the Ukranians, the need to protect the great mother russia, Zelenskyy and the Ukrainians are na*is, etc

- one for external use centered on the theme claiming a geopolitical fight between russia and the US both trying to control the world, using Ukraine as a battlefield. This one is embraced by several personalities (Chomsky, Roger Waters, Russell Brand, Mearsheimer, etc) and by several microstockers (lizard, SVH, etc) who think they know better and understand something others can't.

None of these is suitable for Ukrainian use.
But now, thanks to Stocker we have the missing link.

The 3rd conspiracy, designed for Ukrainians claims that russia and the US have a secret Molotov - Ribbentrop type of aggrement.
The US, afraid of the russian power agreed to sacrifice Ukraine based on putin's promise that russia will not go further and invade other countries.

Mind-boggling!

Now, replace the US with Biden/Democrats and there you have it.
At the same time, rest assured that if a Republican was in the White House, our Stocker would have blamed the Republicans. ::)

« Last Edit: October 01, 2023, 09:26 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #1497 on: October 01, 2023, 11:00 »
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Just get in touch with your fellow Ukrainians who can see things clearly and understand which side of the American politics is the worst for Ukraine freedom and teritorial integrity.

Maybe they will convince you to get your head out of the sand:
You can read for yourself what they write in Ukraine. The topic is called "Lies and propaganda of bots of the US Democratic Party." Google translator will translate the topic into any language.

https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/zagaln-obgovorennya/brehnya-propaganda-ukranskih-botv-demokratichno-part-ssha/

and

https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/nformacjn-resursi/analz-statusu-mltarno-dopomogi-ssha-ukran/


Thanks for the links, at least now it's clear where you got your information and worldview. This forum of Ukrainian patriots, just like this thread, is dominated by the opinion of exactly one person - who is in possession of the only truth .
To sell this here as a general Ukrainian opinion is a very daring interpretation of one's own.

Apart from disliking and accusing Democrats and Biden, this same person also has a particular opinion on Covid vaccinations:

These vaccinations contribute to the depopulation of the world.

All right.  ;D
;D  ;D  ;D
In fact, I saw that forum today for the first time, just like you.
Zero Talent himself wrote to me so that I could read what they write in Ukraine. Well, I brought what I found. If you find other information on the Ukrainian Internet about Biden and the Democrats, please provide a link.
Where does that author write about covid and depopulation? Give me a link.

« Reply #1498 on: October 01, 2023, 11:05 »
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The 3rd conspiracy, designed for Ukrainians claims that russia and the US have a secret Molotov - Ribbentrop type of aggrement.
The US, afraid of the russian power agreed to sacrifice Ukraine based on putin's promise that russia will not go further and invade other countries.

Mind-boggling!

Now, replace the US with Biden/Democrats and there you have it.
At the same time, rest assured that if a Republican was in the White House, our Stocker would have blamed the Republicans. ::)
I write this almost all the time. Not exactly as you wrote. But we constantly see Biden doing geopolitical trade with the Russians. The goods are the provision of aviation to Ukraine, missiles, tanks, permission or prohibition to shoot at russia, non-provision of fighters to Iran and much more. As a result of this trade, Ukrainians die every day. And yes, in fact, Ukrainians sacrifice themselves every day so that the Russians do not launch an attack on the EU.
Regarding the Republicans. I also wrote that if I dont like their policies, I will also criticize and scold them.



« Reply #1499 on: October 01, 2023, 11:11 »
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So, I will not claim that everything that is written according to the links I provided today is 100% true. But the fact that there is 90-95% truth there is most likely. Actually, the same professional Russian propaganda uses 80% truth and 20% lies. So, these 90% of the truth written in those links (and this is a lot) are the result of the policies of the Democrats led by Biden.
Ukraine does not receive the necessary weapons from either NATO countries or the United States. Ukraine does not receive enough weapons. Ukraine is constantly limited by lines of where it can shoot and where it cannot shoot.


 

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