Quote from: stoker2014 on October 01, 2023, 02:39

Democrats are the best friends of Russian fascists and putin. The Democrats' policy is aimed at preserving the Russian empire, occupying Ukraine and killing Ukrainians. These are the facts.

No, these are not the facts at all!  You think the Democrats are bad because they are too slow to provide the latest weapons - I agree they have been too slow, although part of that is about training and maintenance.  However, you think the Republicans would be better?  The ones who want to withdraw all aid and give Ukraine to Putin?  How is that better?  Why did Putin work so hard to get Trump elected over Clinton?  Because he knew Hillary would be tough on Russia while Trump had been groomed as a Russian asset since the 80s.  If Biden was not in the White House the Russians would have taken over Ukraine long ago and would now be moving on to other countries.  Congress finally passed a stopgap budget yesterday with aid to Ukraine removed because of the Republicans.  Just because Biden is not as aggressive as you think he should be doesn't mean they are helping Putin.  Your "facts" are all wrong - please stop.

F16 fighters, tanks, missiles and shells are not new weapons.
There is hope that, at least for the sake of winning the US elections, Biden will begin supplying these weapons to Ukraine.
I don't think Hillary would have a tough policy towards russia. For example, her husband and former US President Bill Clinton ensured that Ukraine lost all its nuclear potential.
Yes, the Russians supported Trump, but rather so that Trump would pursue a softer policy.
These are all, of course, poorly understood questions: who will be better, Democrats and Biden or Trump and Republicans. I just see that the Democrats' policies are very weak and bad.

1. It is still completely unclear what your intention, your goal is.

2. If you post a link here, then you should already know to some extent what the content is. I think that it is relatively quickly recognizable that the Ukrainian forum has been hijacked by a completely whacked conspiracy theorist with the pseudonym Wednesday and over 9000 proud posts.

3. From all the conspiracy nonsense you picked out the statements that fit into your world view - no matter by whom the truths are spread.

4. The statements in this forum are not entirely harmless either. If this really would represent the opinion of the entire Ukraine - which I do not even remotely assume - then you would actually have to stop the aid immediately. In this respect again a disservice for Ukraine from you.

5. And no, I will not surf the Ukrainian Internet. Apart from the fact that I don't speak the language, you certainly won't find a realistic opinion here - for that you would have to travel to Ukraine.

1. I can't remain silent, so I write.

2. I found a link to this forum on another very popular Ukrainian forum. I have read the information, 80-95% of it is true.

3. You have the right to support Democrats and not believe what is written.

4. What is the opinion of all of Ukraine? In what form do you imagine it? In Ukraine there are TV channels, there are various experts, there are social networks, there are forums. Naturally, official Kyiv cannot afford to criticize Biden and the Democrats. It wouldn't be diplomatic.
But, I watch some experts on Ukrainian TV channels, they say approximately the same as what is written in those links.
Ukrainians on the forums are also not happy with the volume and range of military assistance from Germany, NATO countries and the United States. But many Ukrainians are afraid of Trump, and think that he will be even worse than Biden.
About stopping aid to Ukraine. You either help normally or don�t help at all. This applies not only to Germany, but also to other NATO countries and the USA.

5. Even if you spoke Ukrainian or Russian (in Ukraine everyone knows Russian and many speak it), coming to Ukraine would not give you anything. All these questions are more of an expert nature.

Kurt Volker

"From an internal political point of view, it would be better for the American administration if Ukraine advanced faster. Because they have to make these political arguments in the US, they have to get funding from Congress. But it is very unfair to blame Ukraine for this, when it took us a year to make a decision on the F-16, and we still have not provided ATACMS. We could do more to help Ukraine be faster.

If you ask if you support Ukraine, about 67% of Republicans say yes, we do. When you ask whether it's worth spending that much money, support among Republicans drops to just 40%. And when you explain that this is about 3.5% of the annual US defense budget that we actually gave to Ukraine, and that resulted in Ukraine surviving and Russia tearing itself apart, then the Republican numbers go back to 60 %. So it's a matter of giving them the right information, getting a little ahead of them on the matter. And I think the base of support is here.

The number one thing that Ukraine wants to do now, and I think it will succeed, is to make the land connection between Rostov-on-Don, the occupied part of the Zaporizhzhia region, and Crimea unusable, and to make sure that the bridge over the Kerch Strait cannot be used .

If Ukraine can do these two things, it will have the effect of isolating forces in Crimea for the winter. And I think that it can quite possibly happen already this year."

Before the elections, the Republicans will prevent the Democrats from doing anything, this is logical. But if Biden allows the supply of necessary weapons to Ukraine, he will receive the support of both Ukraine and Republicans.

Quote from: Zero Talent on October 01, 2023, 19:39

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Be careful what you wish for!

Stocker, you are begining to get what you are wishing for.
Maga republicans managed to stop the aid for Ukraine under the threat to shutdown the US government.
Congrats! 
Remember, this is only foreshadowing what will happen under a second trump administration, dominated by even more maga republicans.
Sorry Ukraine, you deserve better! 

https://ukrpatriots.com/forum/zagaln-obgovorennya/brehnya-propaganda-ukranskih-botv-demokratichno-part-ssha/

I see the situation as written in this link. All this money is games and lies of the Democrats. This money doesn't mean anything.

Laughable! 🙄
It's as wished by the applauding guy, whose troll army conquered your thoughts already. Sad!

Today is a holiday for Russian trolls. Elon Musk attacked the President of Ukraine with rude accusations and trolling.
 

Today is a holiday for Russian trolls. Elon Musk attacked the President of Ukraine with rude accusations and trolling.
 

You mean this?
Welcome to trumpism and maga/russian propaganda

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 02, 2023, 06:18

Zero Talent, no one conquered my thoughts; I only read that text yesterday, diagonally, fluently. I write about the same thing all the time. I don�t have the enthusiasm and joy for the Democrats that you do. I am not participating in the US presidential elections and am not campaigning. I am just writing my thoughts and the opinions of some experts. You constantly attack Republicans and praise Democrats.

You don't understand what I write and you don't want to pay attention and learn something else than your deep rooted beliefs.

I don't attach the republicans, I attack trump, his moronic ideas and isolationist maga voters, who have turned the GoP away from its classical doctrine.

I don't praise Biden or the democrats.
I would gladly vote for an old school republican like Chris Christie or Nikkie Haley instead of Biden, but unfortunately, they stand no chance.

Well then, both Biden and Trump are not effective. That's how it works. I don't like Biden, I don't like Trump. But if we talk about parties, I like the Republicans more.

I don't like Biden, I don't like Trump. But if we talk about parties, I like the Republicans more.

You still don't get it. The republicans you like are a minority (like Christie or Haley) on its way to extinction, with no chance to make a change anymore.

The new GoP is the maga party who just voted against Ukraine aid.
It's the party ready to trade Ukrainian land for peace with putin.

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 02, 2023, 06:35

I don't like Biden, I don't like Trump. But if we talk about parties, I like the Republicans more.

You still don't get it. The republicans you like are a minority (like Christie or Haley) on its way to extinction, with no chance to make a change anymore.

The new GoP is the maga party who just voted against Ukraine aid.
It's the party ready to trade Ukrainian land for peace with putin.

I strongly disagree. Only a small percentage of the Republican Party does not want to support Ukraine. When this percentage becomes 45 or more, then I will be against the Republicans.
Well, the fact that you constantly present it as non-support for Ukraine, I have already answered this many times. I am aware of the political situation and what is happening.

Ukraine's resilience is the future resilience of Europe � Volodymyr Zelenskyy during a conversation with EU Foreign Ministers.

"Helping Ukraine is helping the whole world. If Ukraine falls, Russia will start a big war. And not only on the territory of our country. I am sure that today's resilience of Ukraine is the future resilience of the European continent at the very least. I want to thank you for helping us maintain this resilience," the President summarized.

https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/stijkist-ukrayini-ce-majbutnya-stijkist-yevropi-volodimir-ze-86025