Author Topic: This should settle some different opinions (Read 133544 times)

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2475 on:** February 14, 2024, 05:00 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on February 13, 2024, 14:28

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 13, 2024, 05:28
Quote from: sgoodwin4813 on February 12, 2024, 23:12
Quote from: Wilm on February 12, 2024, 15:55
He simply doesn't care. The only thing he is interested is is America first.

The only thing that nasty piece of garbage cares about is himself first. He would destroy Ukraine, the U.S. or even his own family if he thought it would help his own self. I don't know what exactly Putin has over him but Orange Jesus is acting as a Russian asset to further Putin's goals in the world. The sooner that nasty scumbag is in jail the better and safer the world will be for all of us. Hopefully he and Putin will both get what they deserve.
I don't agree. Biden needs to be put in prison, and not only in prison, but also in the electric chair. The US Democratic Party needs to be banned.

Right, right, right... the Dems who just voted today with a massive 46 -2 majority in favor of Ukraine should be banned, while the republicans, with their 26-22 anti-Ukraine majority should be embraced!

stocker is living in a parallel universe where Ukraine's best interests, putin's dreams, and trump's stupidity are in sync!

This is all propaganda from the Democrats.
I write every week that military aid from the Democrats is a handout and a minuscule. This help does not solve anything at the front. There are no aviation, no medium- and long-range missiles, no tanks.
Republicans are doing everything right. Now the main thing is to reduce Biden’s rating and prevent him from winning the election.
I recommend everyone to listen to the Ukrainian radio broadcast. I recommend listening to the entire show.
https://youtu.be/JXgqphJZiQc
It says Democrats are ass.holes. From the 11th minute, the representative of Ukraine in the United States says that the Democrats initially did everything so that assistance would not be provided to Ukraine. Democrats delayed voting on aid to Ukraine in October 2023. They did this in order to blame the Republicans. The video has the option to include translation of subtitles into English.
There is also an opinion, and I agree with it, that Biden is doing everything so as not to create problems for putin and not prevent him from being elected in russia. In return, Biden expects putin's support in the US elections.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2476 on:** February 14, 2024, 05:06 »

Quote from: sgoodwin4813 on February 13, 2024, 21:55

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 13, 2024, 05:49
In the Ukrainian press I read about stories where in EU countries their children are taken from mothers and given to other families.

I don't know about the Ukrainian press but that sounds like Russian propaganda to me. The Russians have stolen Ukrainian children and given them away to families in Russia - this is well documented. I have never heard of anything like that in the EU and doubt that is true.

This is also true, just like the truth about Russians. Not many Ukrainians can protect their rights in the EU.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2477 on:** February 14, 2024, 05:08 »

Quote from: sgoodwin4813 on February 13, 2024, 21:49

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 13, 2024, 05:28
Quote from: sgoodwin4813 on February 12, 2024, 23:12
Quote from: Wilm on February 12, 2024, 15:55
He simply doesn't care. The only thing he is interested is is America first.

The only thing that nasty piece of garbage cares about is himself first. He would destroy Ukraine, the U.S. or even his own family if he thought it would help his own self. I don't know what exactly Putin has over him but Orange Jesus is acting as a Russian asset to further Putin's goals in the world. The sooner that nasty scumbag is in jail the better and safer the world will be for all of us. Hopefully he and Putin will both get what they deserve.
I don't agree. Biden needs to be put in prison, and not only in prison, but also in the electric chair. The US Democratic Party needs to be banned.

What on Earth could you possibly put Biden in prison for? The Republicans have been trying to impeach him for months, but despite wasting huge amounts of taxpayer money haven't come up with a single shred of evidence for any wrongdoing. The electric chair? Stop being ridiculous. If Biden had not been in the White House these past few years Putin would have been in Kyiv long ago. If Orange Jesus gets back in the White House Ukraine will become a vassal state of Russia very quickly. That is why Putin supports Trump so strongly and why he opposes the Democrats - he knows they are the ones standing in the way of his destroying Ukraine.

You are influenced by propaganda and lies from the US Democratic Party. If you read this thread over the past two months, you will see that I have written on all of these issues.
If Trump were US President in 2022, putin would not even dare to launch an attack on Ukraine. But read everything I wrote earlier.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2478 on:** February 14, 2024, 05:16 »

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/14/7441794/

Intelligence officers demonstrate use of Magura drones in sinking of Cesar Kunikov – video

The large Russian landing ship Caesar Kunikov was sunk with the help of Magura V5 maritime drones, the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine reported.

Source: Ukraine’s Defence Intelligence

Quote: "On 14 February, the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine, in cooperation with all components of the Security and Defence Forces of Ukraine, destroyed the large landing ship Caesar Kunikov of the Black Sea Fleet of the aggressor state of Russia. The successful mission was carried out by the special forces of Group 13 of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine".

Details: The special operation was reportedly made possible with the support of the United24 platform.

The Russian ship was attacked by Magura V5 maritime attack drones. It happened in the Black Sea near the city of Alupka in temporarily occupied Crimea.

https://youtu.be/QmQCQXfN_SU

"As a result, large holes were blown in the port side and the Caesar Kunikov began to sink. It is symbolic that the Russian officer after whom the ship was named was killed exactly 81 years ago [on February 14]. The occupiers' search and rescue operation was unsuccessful. Glory to Ukraine!" the intelligence emphasised.

Details: The Defence Intelligence notes that the large landing ship Caesar Kunikov of Project 775 is one of Russia's newest vessels.

This ship could accommodate 87 crew members on board. It has seen combat in the wars in Georgia, Syria and Ukraine.

Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the nation! Death of Russian Federation!

Zero Talent · « **Reply #2479 on:** February 14, 2024, 08:21 »

Military spending as a percentage of GDP in Europe.

Fear of invasion created a "military spending belt" bordering russia and its zone of influence/occupation.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2480 on:** February 14, 2024, 13:46 »

Germany spends little money.

Germany will have big problems when Trump becomes president.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #2481 on:** February 14, 2024, 14:26 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 14, 2024, 13:46

Germany will have big problems when Trump becomes president.

Forget about Germany.
Ukraine will likely suffer the most significant adverse consequences should such a global catastrophe occur.

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #2482 on:** February 14, 2024, 15:43 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 14, 2024, 13:46

Germany spends little money.

The trick lies in the detail and the perspective. You really should learn to read graphics.

The graph refers to military spending as a percentage of GDP and is from 2023. We have 2024, of course you can forget that in all the stress.

In the absolute figures for defense spending, Germany is behind the USA and UK with over 60 billion (more likely 70 current).

The figures are also no longer up to date. Germany currently has a share of expenditure of 2.1% of the GDP.

Zero, on the other hand, has drawn the right conclusions from the graph: The countries bordering Russia are arming themselves mightily.
You, on the other hand, are once again fantasizing your own ideas contrary to the facts.

So your hollow phrase that Germany spends very little money is once again wrong and reflects your analytical skills in all your contributions.

Just say one time thank you for always learning something new here.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #2483 on:** February 14, 2024, 23:38 »

The map I shared proves how stupid trump and his maga team of "advisors" are.
A bunch of Homer Simpsons.

He stated that in the case of a russian invasion, he will not aid the countries with less than 2% of GDP military spending and will even encourage russia to do "whatever the h.e.l.l. they want."

But look at the map. All countries bordering russia, Belarus, and a potentially sacrificed and occupied Ukraine already spend more than 2% of their GDP on the military. They form a protective barrier against potential russian invasions.

There is no way for Russia to invade, let's say, Germany without first invading one of the countries in the 2% spending shield.

Therefore, even based on his foolish announcement, trump-the-moron, must defend them and fight his buddy putin.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2484 on:** February 15, 2024, 05:26 »

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/14/us/politics/trump-ukraine-biden.html

Trump Says Biden Will Give Ukraine to Putin.

Speaking at a campaign event in North Charleston, S.C., Mr. Trump said that, under a Biden presidency, Mr. Putin is going to be given everything he wants, including Ukraine. That’s a gift. He’s got a gift.
Mr. Biden is going to give Ukraine to Mr. Putin.

NATO has a goal that its member countries spend 2 percent of their gross domestic product on their militaries. As of last year, just 11 of 31 NATO members had reached that level. Mr. Trump on Wednesday said he thought the goal should be doubled to 4 percent.

+100

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2485 on:** February 15, 2024, 05:41 »

Today, the Russian Hitler of the 21st century, putin, said that he wants Biden to be President of the United States.
Open statements mean open support.
Of course putin is the KGB, of course I don’t perceive his words in any way. But I know that here on the forum there are many who like to listen to what putin says and believe what he says.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2486 on:** February 15, 2024, 05:43 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 14, 2024, 15:43

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 14, 2024, 13:46
Germany spends little money.

Germany currently has a share of expenditure of 2.1% of the GDP.

By the end of 2024, it will be clear how much Germany will pay. For now these are just plans.
But I see that the Germans are already very scared of Trump coming to power.

Without Trump, the Germans would not have even started paying more.
Well done Trump! Squash the parasites!

Yes, Trump is a real strong leader. German parasites are afraid of Trump even when he is not yet president of the United States.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2487 on:** February 15, 2024, 05:46 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on February 14, 2024, 23:38

Therefore, even based on his foolish announcement, trump-the-moron, must defend them and fight his buddy putin.

Is not a fact. If Germany will not pay enough money for defense, why should the United States send troops into German territory and defend not only, for example, Poland, but also Germany at the same time? Trump will shift responsibility for the occupation of Poland to Germany.
But this is all nonsense, of course, Trump’s goal is to force Russian friends such as Germany, Hungary, and Austria to pay enough money.
Thus, the German parasites parasitized not only on the USA, but also on other EU countries, which are forced to pay 2% of their GDP for defense.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2488 on:** February 15, 2024, 05:51 »

Avdiivka is hell: 3rd Separate Assault Brigade reports critical situation in Avdiivka.

The Third Separate Assault Brigade reported that two Russian brigades were critically damaged on the Avdiivka front, but the situation in Avdiivka remains precarious, with Russians moving new forces to the city.

Source: 3rd separate assault brigade

Quote: "Avdiivka is hell. The Third Separate Assault Brigade confirms that it has been urgently redeployed to reinforce Ukrainian troops in the area of Avdiivka.

The situation in the city at the time of the brigade's deployment was extremely critical.

Separate battalions of the 3rd Brigade conducted a raid into enemy-held areas of Avdiivka. The enemy's forces in our area number approximately 7 brigades.

...Two brigades of the Russian Armed Forces were critically damaged during the period of their presence on the Avdiivka front. The exact losses of the enemy in personnel and equipment will be announced later, after the necessary data is confirmed.

At the same time, the objective situation in Avdiivka remains precarious and unstable. The enemy continues to actively rotate its troops and deploy new forces and equipment to the city."

Details: The commander of the 3rd Brigade, Andrii Biletskyi, stressed that the soldiers are demonstrating unprecedented heroism: "We are forced to fight 360 degrees against new brigades that the enemy is deploying."

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/15/7441948/

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Biden is a fucker! Where is the aviation? Where are the missiles? Where are the tanks? Put Biden in the electric chair.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2489 on:** February 15, 2024, 06:35 »

Ukraine spends 20-30 percent of its GDP on war. This is exactly what the EU countries should spend, not less, but preferably more. Ukraine defends the EU from Russian occupation.

Big Toe · « **Reply #2490 on:** February 15, 2024, 07:03 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 15, 2024, 05:46

Quote from: Zero Talent on February 14, 2024, 23:38
Therefore, even based on his foolish announcement, trump-the-moron, must defend them and fight his buddy putin.
Is not a fact. If Germany will not pay enough money for defense, why should the United States send troops into German territory and defend not only, for example, Poland, but also Germany at the same time? Trump will shift responsibility for the occupation of Poland to Germany.

If Russia wants to invade Germany, they have to invade Poland first. They do not have the capabilities to land a significant number of troups with heavy arms like tanks at the German coast of the Baltic Sea, let alone supply them.

Then, by defending Poland against a Russian invasion, the USA would automatically also defend Germany.

Also, the US cannot really effectively defend Poland (or the Baltic states) against a Russian invasion without using German infrastructure and US owned infrastructure in Germany.

The Ramstein Air Base is the headquarters of the US Air Force in Europe. Without it, the US air strike and defence capabilities in Europe would be seriously crippled. It would also be very hard to supply US troops in Europe without using German ports (or Dutch or Belgian ports, but then the supplies would have to be transported further east via German road or railway infrastructure).

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 15, 2024, 05:46

But this is all nonsense, of course, Trump’s goal is to force Russian friends such as Germany, Hungary, and Austria to pay enough money.
Thus, the German parasites parasitized not only on the USA, but also on other EU countries, which are forced to pay 2% of their GDP for defense.

Of the countries you listed, only Hungary is relatively friendly towards Russia. Germany was in the past interested in keeping relatively good relations to Russia, partly because our politicians believed that the best insurance against war is to have good trade relations, partly because we relied (probably too much) on Russian gas for our energy supply. But of course, the Russian invasion of the Ukraine changed all that.

And Austria is not part of the NATO and therefore not under any obligation to pay anything.

I do agree though, that Germany should spend at least the agreed upon 2% of the GDP on defence and it looks like this year we will achieve this goal, as has already been stated in this thread. This has nothing to do with Trump, but rather with Putin.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2491 on:** February 15, 2024, 07:15 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 14, 2024, 15:43

You, on the other hand, are once again fantasizing your own ideas contrary to the facts.

The facts are clear. Germany in 2023 was parasitizing at the expense of other EU countries.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2492 on:** February 15, 2024, 07:20 »

Quote from: Big Toe on February 15, 2024, 07:03

Of the countries you listed, only Hungary is relatively friendly towards Russia. Germany was in the past interested in keeping relatively good relations to Russia, partly because our politicians believed that the best insurance against war is to have good trade relations, partly because we relied (probably too much) on Russian gas for our energy supply. But of course, the Russian invasion of the Ukraine changed all that.

And Austria is not part of the NATO and therefore not under any obligation to pay anything.

I do agree though, that Germany should spend at least the agreed upon 2% of the GDP on defence and it looks like this year we will achieve this goal, as has already been stated in this thread. This has nothing to do with Trump, but rather with Putin.

It has already been pointed out in this topic that Germany continues to pay money to the Russians for gas. Germany also trades with Russians through third countries and supplies many goods, incl. military purposes.
I also don’t agree, it’s only thanks to Trump that Germany is increasing its spending.

As for the defense of the EU, of course the US needs Germany's infrastructure for this. But, as I already wrote, if Germany does not pay money, the United States may refuse to protect both Germany and Poland and the Baltic countries. It's logical.

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #2493 on:** February 15, 2024, 07:59 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 15, 2024, 07:15

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 14, 2024, 15:43
You, on the other hand, are once again fantasizing your own ideas contrary to the facts.
The facts are clear. Germany in 2023 was parasitizing at the expense of other EU countries.

Your choice of words alone shows your simple mind and lack of overview.

Once again for those with learning difficulties: Germany was and is the third largest donor to NATO.

You are obviously not very familiar with the concept of parasitism.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #2494 on:** February 15, 2024, 08:09 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 15, 2024, 05:46

Quote from: Zero Talent on February 14, 2024, 23:38
Therefore, even based on his foolish announcement, trump-the-moron, must defend them and fight his buddy putin.
Is not a fact. If Germany will not pay enough money for defense, why should the United States send troops into German territory and defend not only, for example, Poland, but also Germany at the same time? Trump will shift responsibility for the occupation of Poland to Germany.
But this is all nonsense, of course, Trump’s goal is to force Russian friends such as Germany, Hungary, and Austria to pay enough money.
Thus, the German parasites parasitized not only on the USA, but also on other EU countries, which are forced to pay 2% of their GDP for defense.

You missed the point, Homer, same as the orange moron.

russia can never invade Germany, without invading Poland first.
US must defend Poland and fight russia, even if Germany doesn't spend a dime on military.

Basic geography seems too hard for you two.

Wilm · « **Reply #2495 on:** February 15, 2024, 08:13 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 15, 2024, 07:59

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 15, 2024, 07:15
Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 14, 2024, 15:43
You, on the other hand, are once again fantasizing your own ideas contrary to the facts.
The facts are clear. Germany in 2023 was parasitizing at the expense of other EU countries.

You are obviously not very familiar with the concept of parasitism.

He is! While lots of other Ukrainians are figthting for their country he is sitting at home - safe and warm - and insulting other people.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2496 on:** February 15, 2024, 08:53 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 15, 2024, 07:59

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 15, 2024, 07:15
Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 14, 2024, 15:43
You, on the other hand, are once again fantasizing your own ideas contrary to the facts.
The facts are clear. Germany in 2023 was parasitizing at the expense of other EU countries.
Your choice of words alone shows your simple mind and lack of overview.
Once again for those with learning difficulties: Germany was and is the third largest donor to NATO.
You are obviously not very familiar with the concept of parasitism.

I am very familiar with economics and know what it is. There is no need to hide behind absolute numbers when other countries pay a higher percentage of their GDP than you.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2497 on:** February 15, 2024, 08:57 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on February 15, 2024, 08:09

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 15, 2024, 05:46
Quote from: Zero Talent on February 14, 2024, 23:38
Therefore, even based on his foolish announcement, trump-the-moron, must defend them and fight his buddy putin.
Is not a fact. If Germany will not pay enough money for defense, why should the United States send troops into German territory and defend not only, for example, Poland, but also Germany at the same time? Trump will shift responsibility for the occupation of Poland to Germany.
But this is all nonsense, of course, Trump’s goal is to force Russian friends such as Germany, Hungary, and Austria to pay enough money.
Thus, the German parasites parasitized not only on the USA, but also on other EU countries, which are forced to pay 2% of their GDP for defense.
You missed the point, Homer, same as the orange moron.
russia can never invade Germany, without invading Poland first.
US must defend Poland and fight russia, even if Germany doesn't spend a dime on military.
Basic geography seems too hard for you two.

You write some obvious things.

The security of the EU's eastern flank is largely Germany's responsibility. If Germany does not pay, then the NATO fund will not be large enough, and the US will have to spend a lot of its money to protect Germany as well. Germany won't be able to play games with Trump.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2498 on:** February 15, 2024, 08:59 »

Quote from: Wilm on February 15, 2024, 08:13

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 15, 2024, 07:59
Quote from: stoker2014 on February 15, 2024, 07:15
Quote from: RalfLiebhold on February 14, 2024, 15:43
You, on the other hand, are once again fantasizing your own ideas contrary to the facts.
The facts are clear. Germany in 2023 was parasitizing at the expense of other EU countries.

You are obviously not very familiar with the concept of parasitism.

He is! While lots of other Ukrainians are figthting for their country he is sitting at home - safe and warm - and insulting other people.

These many other Ukrainians defend the EU and Germany, while Germany buys Russian gas and trades with the Russians through third countries. Germany also pays little to the NATO fund and Germany really likes Ukrainian refugees who solve the Germans’ demographic problems.

So why are you Germans better than Russians?

stoker2014 · « **Reply #2499 on:** February 15, 2024, 09:09 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on February 15, 2024, 08:09

even if Germany doesn't spend a dime on military.

+100
This is the policy of parasites.
Under KGB agent Merkel, this is exactly what Germany did. And only 2 years ago Germany began to slowly do something.
I support every word Trump says!

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