Quote from: stoker2014 on March 14, 2024, 08:40

Quote from: trucic on March 14, 2024, 08:17

� and it is impossible to conquer Russia, how you have imagined� except if you don�t wont tear Earth on half� in matter of seconds�your nation will suffer until this war ends� more and more people in the world are aware that you need to talk and stop the war asap�

1. Russia does not need to be conquered because it is an empire. Russia can be defeated militarily, but not for the purpose of occupying its territories. More precisely, it would be correct to send troops into the territory of this empire, but only for the safety of the Russians themselves. The main goal is the disintegration of the Russian empire into national countries. A lot of oppressed peoples are under the yoke of the Russians.
2. Ukraine cannot stop the war. Ukraine repels attacks and de-occupies its territories. The war can only be stopped by the Russian orcs if they withdraw their troops from the territory of Ukraine.

� @ZeroTalent, THIS!

As I said, putin�s useful idiots are helping him win the information war.

But it shouldn�t deter anyone from doing everything it takes to push russia back within its internationally recognized borders.
This must include destroying military and logistic objectives inside the aggressor's territory.

The freedom of its imperial colonies is a different matter and should not be confused with the defense against the invasion and occupation of an internationally recognized independent and sovereign country.

Ukrainian film 20 Days in Mariupol has won an Oscar

Not sure if it is available outside the US, but US users can watch it free on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/gvAyykRvPBo.

A must watch...

The Republican Party has always had dumb presidents. Trump is no worse than the previous ones and no dumber than them.
 

Reagan was not dumb at all.

You should remember yet the 19th century. 
As for Reagan, he was also rather dull and did poorly in school and college.

Quote from: Zero Talent on March 14, 2024, 09:49

This must include destroying military and logistic objectives inside the aggressor's territory.

+100
 
This is also possible. Keep Russian orcs under constant fire control! 
But only Republicans can organize this.

Quote from: Zero Talent on March 14, 2024, 09:49

The freedom of its imperial colonies is a different matter and should not be confused with the defense against the invasion and occupation of an internationally recognized independent and sovereign country.

It's all the same. We need a policy aimed at eliminating fascism in russia. After the liquidation of fascism, this Russian empire itself will collapse. The Russian empire survives only thanks to fascism.

� does your theory works in case of Falklands islands�?!

Quote from: Zero Talent on March 14, 2024, 10:14

Quote from: stoker2014 on March 11, 2024, 04:55

Ukrainian film 20 Days in Mariupol has won an Oscar

Not sure if it is available outside the US, but US users can watch it free on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/gvAyykRvPBo.

A must watch...

� I am not sure that involvement of politics in filmogrphy deserves Oscars� will se that when something filmed about Gaza strip does the same�

If documenting the killing of innocent civilians, children, pregnant women, if documenting the destruction of people's homes and livelihoods, if documenting an unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country is "politics," then everything else is just "politics," and we should cease appreciating all art dealing with tragedies and (the lack of) humanity.

Based on your out-of-touch comment, I don't think you watched this documentary.

Watch it first, then comment.

� suicidal adventure continues iin Kozinka� we will see tomorrow what happened there�

� documentary about tens of thousands Palestinians killed in Gaza�?! Please send me a link�

You clearly didn't watch the movie, but that doesn't stop you from labeling something you know nothing about.

Watch it before engaging in further whataboutism. And do a basic search.

�  you are totally ignoring what is happening around the world since last century 90s� I felt hard stories on my back, from personal perpective and know what war is � I hope that you will not ever experience tragedy of war, because what happenes in Ukraine leads all of us to tragedy� Ukrainian politiacans need escalation and involvement of other parties in war� at the moment, we are speeding up to no-return-point�   

� and it is impossible to conquer Russia, how you have imagined� except if you don�t wont tear Earth on half� in matter of seconds�your nation will suffer until this war ends� more and more people in the world are aware that you need to talk and stop the war asap�

Are you talking about the fact that Putin could have "talked" instead of attacking Ukraine?

Or is your logic that the one being attacked must talk? From a miserable position?

"New Russia" was a word Putin used today in the context of "elections" already started in the more distant parts of Russia. If someone thinks like that, I don't know what the point of "talking" to him could be.

The fact is: at the beginning of the "military operation", Putin believed that Ukraine could be conquered within a few days. The brave Ukrainians - I'll leave stocker2014 out of this, because he's not fighting for his country, he's just writing about what others should do besides himself - can be proud of themselves for successfully resisting the overpowering enemy for so long!

And one day, Putin will also have a big problem explaining to the women and mothers in "his" country why so many of their husbands and sons had to die, even though Ukraine did nothing - absolutely nothing - to Russia. I hope that day comes very soon.

As for your statement "tearing the earth in two in seconds", you are right. If one of the madmen presses the button, that will be the end of humanity. No bunker will help. Not even Putin and Medvedev - and they know it!

Regarding your statement "The Ukrainian politicians need escalation and the involvement of other parties in the war...": Russian politicians are doing the same.

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on March 14, 2024, 14:07

Quote from: trucic on March 14, 2024, 13:40

� documentary about tens of thousands Palestinians killed in Gaza�?! Please send me a link�

Both are certainly terrible.
 
But if you're suggesting that the events in Ukraine can in any way be compared to the Gaza Strip, then you've just won the competition for unqualified comments against Stoker.

� you DO understand what my point was�

Not really.

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on March 14, 2024, 15:36

Quote from: trucic on March 14, 2024, 14:26

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on March 14, 2024, 14:07

Quote from: trucic on March 14, 2024, 13:40

� documentary about tens of thousands Palestinians killed in Gaza�?! Please send me a link�

Both are certainly terrible.
 
But if you're suggesting that the events in Ukraine can in any way be compared to the Gaza Strip, then you've just won the competition for unqualified comments against Stoker.

� you DO understand what my point was�

Not really.

� and thanks for unprovoked qualification�

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