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« Reply #3125 on: March 18, 2024, 17:18 »
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The results of the post-election survey conducted by the independent Russian project "Vote Abroad" are available late this evening. According to the results, 31% of the 2,533 voters surveyed in Bonn voted for Putin and a further 28% for Davankov. The candidate of the Communist Party, Nikolai Kharitonov, received only one percent. Nobody voted for the fourth candidate, the chairman of the "Liberal Democratic Party of Russia" Leonid Sluzki. A quarter of respondents did not want to provide any information to "Vote Abroad". And 15 percent damaged their ballot paper - in protest. 
30%+25% = 55% for putin.

There is no trust in these Russian polls.
All Russians are supporters of the empire and rashists.
What?

Since the number of surveyed voters in Berlin and Bonn is roughly the same, the weighted average for Germany is the same as the average of both polling locations (10% and 31%), so roughly 20% of the Russians living there.

If anything, that number is even lower than 20%, as many Russians may still be afraid to disclose their anti-putin vote to strangers on the street, even if they live in Germany.

Check the site voteabroad.info , and you will see that the exit polls are made by independent pollsters.
The database shows not only the exit poll numbers but also the official count, which is much higher than the exit polls (just normal vote counting in a dictatorship).
The official vote numbers for putin are 44% in Berlin and 65% in Bonn. So even based on official numbers, putin only got ~54% of the Russian residents in Germany, far from the overall average.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2024, 22:11 by Zero Talent »


« Reply #3126 on: March 18, 2024, 17:33 »
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You're not only a bad liar, you're also a methematic dunce.

1. I studied mathematics professionally.


 ::) :o ;D

« Reply #3127 on: March 19, 2024, 03:58 »
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and it is impossible to conquer Russia, how you have imagined except if you dont wont tear Earth on half in matter of secondsyour nation will suffer until this war ends more and more people in the world are aware that you need to talk and stop the war asap

Today, in my view, there was clear proof of what Putin thinks of "talking":

Putin said to his people today after his "election": "...together hand in hand we will move forward - not with words, but with deeds."

Today, on the day when his "election opponent" praises Putin and makes it clear that Crimea belongs to Russia.

In your opinion, what and how should be "talked" about under these conditions?

There's nothing to talk about! Putin doesn't want to talk. He wants power! He wants victory! He wants to go down in the history books!
And there - in the history books - he will make his mark. But not in the way he imagines.
you are right there is no reason to stop killing and depopulation of Ukraine just go further, until there are any proof of life and we will continue to send weapons and  good wishes

« Reply #3128 on: March 19, 2024, 03:59 »
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« Reply #3129 on: March 19, 2024, 04:15 »
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So even based on official numbers, putin only got ~54% of the Russian residents in Germany, far from the overall average.
1. There is no opposition in russia (because Russian slaves do not need it) and there are no presidential candidates who are against the empire. All the candidates you showed in your table are against Ukraine and for killing Ukrainians.
2. Navalnaya works for putin and the Russian empire. That is why she called on her supporters to come to the polls and created a huge turnout in the EU.
3. Normal Russians would never come to elections that are held in a Na.zi country and among the candidates there are only Na.zis. If Russians were against putin and the Empire, turnout in elections in russia and the EU would be 0%. When no one comes to vote, the election is considered invalid.
4. The EU and Europarasites helped putin create a huge turnout in his EU elections, which amounts to legitimizing these elections. The EU should have banned Nazi elections from being held on EU territory. Therefore, the only hope is for Trump to crush all the Europarasites.
5. The EU, Russian supporters of putin came to organize riots and fights with those who are against the war in Ukraine. And this is the EU.  ;D
https://t.me/nevzorovtv/15219

Because of the criminal policies of the US Democrats, you and the Europarasites do not understand the main thing. If a Russian is against putin, this does not mean that this Russian is against the empire, against the war in Ukraine and against the occupation of Ukraine. Social researchers do not ask Russians questions that I have long published on this forum. Namely:
1. Whose Crimea? (the correct answer should be Crimea is Ukraine).
2. Which country are the Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions part of? (the correct answer is Ukraine, and the Russians are the occupiers).
3. Should the Russian Empire be liquidated? (the correct answer is that occupied peoples have the right to hold a referendum on independence).
4. Should everyone who participated in the war against Ukraine, Georgia, Ichkeria be punished? (correct answer, all Russian participants in the war should be subject to criminal prosecution).
5. Should russia withdraw its troops from Ukraine, Crimea, Donbass? (correct answer, russia should withdraw troops from Ukraine)
6. Should russia pay reparations to Ukraine and Ukrainians for those killed, for destroyed cities, destroyed ecology and other losses? (the correct answer is that russia must compensate for all losses caused to it).
Therefore, as soon as such a social study is conducted even among Russians living in the EU, you will not like the results very much.
Your boss, the stupid fuck and fuckface Biden, is pursuing a policy of supporting the rashist Navalnaya. And you, too, automatically began to support Navalnaya. You are not a friend of Ukraine.

Ukrainian media, Ukrainian politicians and volunteers tried to communicate with Russian liberals in the EU in 2022 and 2023. But all these liberals could not pass the test for rashism (they could not correctly answer the questions I wrote above). Therefore, Ukraine does not communicate with Russians in the EU, unlike the ass.hole Biden.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2024, 05:19 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #3130 on: March 19, 2024, 07:17 »
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You were proven wrong again, with data: despite your initial claim, putin is not supported by a large majority of russians living abroad, inucluding those living in Germany.

Instead of admitting your mistake, you wrote an novel to distract from your error.

No suprise! It happens all the time and it will continue to happen.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2024, 07:33 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #3131 on: March 19, 2024, 07:46 »
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1. Whose Crimea? (the correct answer should be Crimea is Ukraine).

Have you ever asked your idol Trump that question?

« Reply #3132 on: March 19, 2024, 08:04 »
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Bram Stoker always reads and answers on few questions he knows that Turkish Tatars do know whose Crimea is

« Reply #3133 on: March 19, 2024, 08:56 »
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You were proven wrong again, with data: despite your initial claim, putin is not supported by a large majority of russians living abroad, inucluding those living in Germany.
You provided links to the results of some surveys. Polls are not actual voting or actual vote counting.
I also wrote that there is no difference between putin and the other candidates who were in your table.
I wrote everything clearly. Clear to everyone except trolls from US Democrats.

This topic is read by 3,000 people per week. Therefore, my goal is not to argue with Biden trolls, but to convey important information to these readers.

Moreover, we do not see protests against the Na.zi elections in russia and their results. We dont see protests either in russia or even in the EU. And you dont need to tell me that Russians who live in the EU are against putin and against Nazism in russia and against the empire.
Everything you write is nonsense and propaganda from US Democrats who support the Russian empire and support putin.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2024, 09:07 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #3134 on: March 19, 2024, 09:34 »
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there are protests EU - in Poland and aftance, they are protesting about what?! You are expecting that whole world should be in your favor because of?! There are lot of  sacrifices in EU and thenrest of the world, but you are always asking for more and more.::

« Reply #3135 on: March 19, 2024, 09:36 »
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You were proven wrong again, with data: despite your initial claim, putin is not supported by a large majority of russians living abroad, inucluding those living in Germany.
You provided links to the results of some surveys. Polls are not actual voting or actual vote counting.

You also have the official vote count from all these voting locations outside the putin-controlled territories.
Even those percentages, which are obviously tampered with by those who count the votes, show significantly less support for putin, far from the 87% he got overall.
The official inflated results directionally support the exit-poll findings, which, as I said, are very likely to be inflated as well since, fearing retaliation from the long KGB arm, many Russians living abroad may be afraid to admit their true vote in front of strangers.

And everybody knows that the other candidates are just putin's puppets. But you are missing the point. Those Russian voters in Germany and elsewhere would rather vote for a puppet than for putin. That's the message you don't get.

Bottom line, you were proven wrong with data, while you have nothing to support your deluded claims. But this old news already.

On the other hand, rest assured that your beloved trump is failing ALL the points you listed above. He will not lift a finger against his buddy putin, whom he admires, and only an involuntary russian asset would think differently.

And we already know the synonym for "involuntary Russian asset":

useful idiot
« Last Edit: March 19, 2024, 09:56 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #3136 on: March 19, 2024, 10:03 »
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many Russians living abroad may be afraid to admit their true vote in front of strangers.
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:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Russian genetic slaves. This is the correct way to write and speak. The slave does not know how to protest and always obeys the will of his master.

I dont even see the point in commenting on the rest of your flooding and trolling.

And of course, Russians who live in the EU will not say what they are for putin, because they are afraid to say so, this could lead to their deportation. Therefore, when a Russian in the EU says that he is against putin, he is lying.  ;D ;D ;D
« Last Edit: March 19, 2024, 10:05 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #3137 on: March 19, 2024, 10:06 »
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Ukraine prepares to join the EU club but Brussels doesnt want to talk about it
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-eu-farm-protests-ursula-von-der-leyen-voloymyr-zelenskyy/

« Reply #3138 on: March 19, 2024, 10:07 »
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Zero Talent useful idiot and troll
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« Reply #3139 on: March 19, 2024, 10:08 »
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many Russians living abroad may be afraid to admit their true vote in front of strangers.
....
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Russian genetic slaves. This is the correct way to write and speak. The slave does not know how to protest and always obeys the will of his master.

I dont even see the point in commenting on the rest of your flooding and trolling.

And of course, Russians who live in the EU will not say what they are for putin, because they are afraid to say so, this could lead to their deportation. Therefore, when a Russian in the EU says that he is against putin, he is lying.  ;D ;D ;D
those are shapeshifting Orcs or infiltrated KGB agents

« Reply #3140 on: March 19, 2024, 10:40 »
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those are shapeshifting Orcs or infiltrated KGB agents
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Shapeshifting Orcs live in the EU and infiltrated KGB agents live in the EU also.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2024, 10:44 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #3141 on: March 19, 2024, 12:58 »
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and they are rebuilding wall in Berlin with their shapeshifting bodies Orcwall :)

« Reply #3142 on: March 19, 2024, 13:06 »
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And of course, Russians who live in the EU will not say what they are for putin, because they are afraid to say so, this could lead to their deportation.

Your lack of logic is glaring when you fail to understand that Germany is a democracy. Nobody is breaking any laws when they admire trump or his buddy putin. Nobody can be deported for that.

This is exactly why 10% of the voters in Berlin and 31% of voters in Bonn openly admitted to voting for putin, in front of strangers. They know they have nothing to fear.
The opposite is valid for those who dare to speak against putin and you know it. Not because of the German authorities, but because of the long arm of the KGB. They know it and you know that too.

But you fail to put facts together and formulate a coherent conclusion.

Your degree in math must have been obtained from a fake university, such as the scam: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University,
because it's impossible for someone with a real math degree to refuse so stubbornly to acknowledge facts and fail so miserably at logic.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2024, 13:20 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #3143 on: March 19, 2024, 13:29 »
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And of course, Russians who live in the EU will not say what they are for putin, because they are afraid to say so, this could lead to their deportation.

Your lack of logic is glaring when you fail to understand that Germany is a democracy. Nobody is breaking any laws when they admire trump or his buddy putin. Nobody can be deported for that.

This is exactly why 10% of the voters in Berlin and 31% of voters in Bonn openly admitted to voting for putin, in front of strangers. They know they have nothing to fear.
The opposite is valid for those who dare to speak against putin and you know it. Not because of the German authorities, but because of the long arm of the KGB. They know it and you know that too.

But you fail to put facts together and formulate a coherent conclusion.

Your degree involving math must have been obtained from a fake university, from a scam like: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University,
because it's impossible for someone with a real math degree to refuse to ackowledge facts and fail so miserably at logic.

stocker2014 doesn't know what democracy is. He doesn't understand the processes and framework conditions. Maybe you should explain it to him.

All of his statements clearly indicate that his mind is exclusively dominated by authoritarian and dictatorial ideas. In this respect, he is no different from Putin or Trump. He is therefore also unfamiliar with democratic processes.

He criticizes the autocratic dictatorship in Russia under Putin, but wants all other countries to put Putin in his place with exactly the same dictatorial and autocratic methods. Furthermore, he insists that in the USA, for example, the same autocratic means should be used against the current government majority (electric chair, prison, etc.).

« Reply #3144 on: March 19, 2024, 13:47 »
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The opposite is valid for those who dare to speak against putin and you know it. Not because of the German authorities, but because of the long arm of the KGB. They know it and you know that too.
You have now written 100% delirium. The KGB can still liquidate one person, but the KGB cannot liquidate tens and hundreds of thousands of people.
You deliberately start the topic into flood. You haven't written anything interesting on the forum today.
All these discussions of yours about Russians in the EU are just a figment of your fantasies and part of the propaganda from US Democrats.
I already regret that I quote your unsubstantiated flood.

« Reply #3145 on: March 19, 2024, 13:53 »
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Furthermore, he insists that in the USA, for example, the same autocratic means should be used against the current government majority (electric chair, prison, etc.).
1. I quote from all your flood only that which deserves at least some attention.
2. US Democrats have been fabricating many court cases against Trump for 3 years now. In essence, they are harassing Trump.
Politicians like Merkel and Biden must answer for their criminal policies. In democratic countries, it is normal for a criminal to be brought to justice and appears in court.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2024, 13:55 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #3146 on: March 19, 2024, 16:06 »
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Furthermore, he insists that in the USA, for example, the same autocratic means should be used against the current government majority (electric chair, prison, etc.).
1. I quote from all your flood only that which deserves at least some attention.
2. US Democrats have been fabricating many court cases against Trump for 3 years now. In essence, they are harassing Trump.
Politicians like Merkel and Biden must answer for their criminal policies. In democratic countries, it is normal for a criminal to be brought to justice and appears in court.


Yes, Trump is a very fine person who always tells the truth and sticks to the facts. A role model for democracy. An idol.

It's really unbelievable that anyone doubts his reputation and his clean slate. Yes, all those who doubt Tump should be put in the electric chair to set an example for real democracy.

And all those who doubt Trump must be KGB agents.

You really are blinder than any mole in my garden!

« Reply #3147 on: March 19, 2024, 16:21 »
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Certainly off-topic for one person here, the others will understand why discussions here no longer make sense:

Some of the most common traits and signs of narcissistic personality disorder may include:

- An extremely inflated sense of self-importance, and self-absorption
- A sense of entitlement and grandiosity
- A strong need for excessive and constant attention and admiration
- Feelings of superiority even without any significant achievement
- A lack of empathy
- Considering others as inferior
- Feelings of victimization
- An aggressive reaction to being ignored or mistreated
- A fragile self-esteem and low self-confidence
- An exaggeration of talents and accomplishments
- Feelings of jealousy
- A strong belief in being envied by others exceptionally charming and charismatic when its beneficial (3000 unvisible followers  ;))
- Undermining other achievements
- Reacting negatively and aggressively to criticism

« Last Edit: March 19, 2024, 16:32 by RalfLiebhold »

« Reply #3148 on: March 19, 2024, 17:30 »
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RalfLiebhold, are you a doctor or not a doctor?  ;D ;D
Any person who reads symptoms for various diseases on the Internet will find all these symptoms in themselves. This is a well-known fact.
I would recommend you to read and think more, and not argue for the sake of arguing.

« Reply #3149 on: March 19, 2024, 18:07 »
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The KGB can still liquidate one person,

Of course, this is how the KGB works.
Many of those Russian voters are certainly afraid that they will be that person if they are caught voting against putin, and many may claim the opposite.
That's just normal behaviour for everyone who knows how dictatorships work.

What is abnormal is the lack of logic coming from someone who claims to have studied mathematics. Obviously, that diploma on your wall is just a meaningless piece of paper.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2024, 18:10 by Zero Talent »


 

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