The Alien seen in a yard in Las Vegas. Now this came out hot on the heals of David Grusch. And it actually took a lot of the attention away.

The ones online including the one uploaded by the teenager known as Angel are weak evidence at best. There have been body language experts stating the family look completely fine and are barely pointing etc. And full disclosure I found the whole thing eye rolling I even mock it myself on this thread. This isn't that.
But this is Angel in hisbown words with his edited version.


https://youtu.be/BdsYfGvIznM

It started with a call to 911 from Angel. He reported a 8 foot 9 foot 10 foot alien with big eyes and a big mouth in his yard. He goes on to state there is one in it and one stood outside of it. The family had heard a bang and the ground shook. On investigating the boys entered the yard to have a look and get some tools from Angels truck. They were confronted by two figures in the yard so ran back in to get their father.
It's worth noting that they return armed with handguns not visible in any footage I have seen previously.

Angels reference to one inside and one outside refer to the fact that whomever it is whatever it is one of them has climbed into a digger and the other one is stood outside the digger. Footage of a nearby officers bodyworn clearly shows what appears to be a meteor and the large bang heard on another system (a ring door bell cam) is also evidence of perhaps meteor. Officers attend the property and find a large circle pressed into the yard. Air footage also shows this over the tyre tracks in the yard.

However this footage shows very clearly the family investigating, armed and speaking in an animated fashion. Bare in mind this footage will have been taken to record events. They had expensive equipment in their yeard and had been robbed previously.

The enhanced image claims to show the aliens or potentially, thieves ... who chose to chose to wear alien head masks and get a throat reduction.

https://youtu.be/HRNSEgMYsUc enjoy

You might want to find a more reliable source of news than YouTube.  Everybody knows Facebook is the only place for accurate news!

Quote from: Lowls on June 14, 2023, 12:17

The Alien seen in a yard in Las Vegas. Now this came out hot on the heals of David Grusch. And it actually took a lot of the attention away.

The ones online including the one uploaded by the teenager known as Angel are weak evidence at best. There have been body language experts stating the family look completely fine and are barely pointing etc. And full disclosure I found the whole thing eye rolling I even mock it myself on this thread. This isn't that.
But this is Angel in hisbown words with his edited version.


https://youtu.be/BdsYfGvIznM

It started with a call to 911 from Angel. He reported a 8 foot 9 foot 10 foot alien with big eyes and a big mouth in his yard. He goes on to state there is one in it and one stood outside of it. The family had heard a bang and the ground shook. On investigating the boys entered the yard to have a look and get some tools from Angels truck. They were confronted by two figures in the yard so ran back in to get their father.
It's worth noting that they return armed with handguns not visible in any footage I have seen previously.

Angels reference to one inside and one outside refer to the fact that whomever it is whatever it is one of them has climbed into a digger and the other one is stood outside the digger. Footage of a nearby officers bodyworn clearly shows what appears to be a meteor and the large bang heard on another system (a ring door bell cam) is also evidence of perhaps meteor. Officers attend the property and find a large circle pressed into the yard. Air footage also shows this over the tyre tracks in the yard.

However this footage shows very clearly the family investigating, armed and speaking in an animated fashion. Bare in mind this footage will have been taken to record events. They had expensive equipment in their yeard and had been robbed previously.

The enhanced image claims to show the aliens or potentially, thieves ... who chose to chose to wear alien head masks and get a throat reduction.

https://youtu.be/HRNSEgMYsUc enjoy

You might want to find a more reliable source of news than YouTube.  Everybody knows Facebook is the only place for accurate news!

That incident is taking a turn for the wierd. Several things happened that shouldn't have.

1. The police attended that night which was May 1st. The boy who's 16 and called Angel began uploading his footage and in an immature way which is understandable. Then a smear campaign began and significant online bullying. So much so that he has abandoned it. His last massage "OK guys I don't care if you believe it or not but it happened but just leave it alone now guys I just wanna be left alone" ... real shame I've seen some of it. Some as youde expect from ufo nuts but the majority is from skeptics calling him a faker for attention and calling for protective services because his parents shouldn't encourage him to believe in fairy tales. And abusing them for being Hispanic.

That family entered that yard armed to the teeth. Only after he and his brother had gone to his truck to get his tools and seen whatever they saw. They had to assume it was thieves as had happened previously. But despite the guns they saw what they saw with eyes which are better than cameras and torches and decided not to risk it.

And the two figures if thieves ... chose ... to wear alien masks which are clear in the video and climb into a JCB. A worthy haul if you can pull it off. But how quietly can you steal one of those and how far are you going to get in the neighbourhood. The police were already in the area. But alien masks ... hardly helpful. Surely just a face mask would be easier 🤔

2. Following the police visit and giving their report it should have been it. But the police returned. They said the first police had done something wrong so they needed sort it out. They claimed that for the families safety they needed to install cameras on poles because a lot of people will be trying to get in. A local ufo hunter took photos of the cameras attached to the poles. a double dome camera set. The video goes viral on June 3rd. Nearly a month later. However the police return sometime before May 27th and remove the cameras. Before they would allegedly need them. Cameras were installed on the local chiefs orders.

Black pick ups with blacked out windows were reported circling the area constantly. It transpires that one of them belonged to a policeman.

Then it has been reported that the family have disappeared. The house is abandoned causing worry for the family being the story. After that was reported at some point a bulletin was released that family have asked for privacy and have now moved away it transpires. Which is normal 😳. Even sex offendsrs don't suddenly pick the family up and move. This family haven't done anything wrong. Bit extreme.

Various accusations are now being put forth. The kids father set all this up for a prank. With guns???

It was an attempt to make money from utube because Angel created a utube channel to post the video.

Angel was trying to make the video into an NFT and sell it for millions.

lot of hate to put on a child. Particularly one that's comfortable carrying a side arm lol.

Well no doubt this will grow more.

The Las Vegas Alien just got even more wierd.

1st May the family witness alien.

The police that attended the property initially left because "they were scared".
Afterwards more police came.

On the 19th May on the orders of Sasha Larkin LVMP assistant sherif and commander of the homeland security division, wireless security cameras were installed on the property. No one knows why. The family were told it was to protect them.

After a podcaster called doug poppa reported on the cameras they were removed a few days later.

June 7 the clip goes viral and no 'protective' cameras are installed.

Sources within the department inform doug that after the incident an IT expert (name known but not given yet) was called in and was told to do something to either the body worn footage of the officers who entered the yard, or the reporting system or both.

Whatever he did 16 minutes of bodyworn footage and audio have been removed ... ehich is really wierd. Simply because it stores for a period of time andnis uploaded. So either it's all kept, or all deleted. Not edited.

When doug first visits the family before the story broke Angel calls someone. A woman. She asks Angel to get dougs plates. It later transpires she is a police officer.

https://youtu.be/q28CizhDr90

https://youtu.be/AZOSdmEDICs

And claims of it being a hoax abound.

Unfortunately, this field is full of hoaxes, muppets and disinformation. And it is a shame, because it is one of the most important issues in the history of mankind. The hoaxes have contributed to the subject being stigmatized for a long time.

I would take anything that Dr. Greer comes up with a bucket of salt. And there are lots of other "UFO performers" out there...

But there are also many serious researchers who have very interesting things to say, for example: Garry Nolan, Avi Loeb, Lue Elizondo, Jacques Vall�e, Ross Coulthart. They are respected in their fields and have a solid track record. I try to ignore everything that comes from sensationalist sources and use serious sources as a "filter".

Some people may experience an ontological shock thinking about such matters, though, and that is understandable. I can recommend meditation as a way to expand one's horizons.

If you watch the videos about the nature of reality with Donald Hoffman and Bernardo Kastrup that I linked above, this new info from Ross Coulthart will not be very surprising:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14azx9k/ross_coulthart_the_craft_is_driven_by_some_kind/

https://youtu.be/R_ci--0RE7g?t=388

Ross Coulthart is a respected and serious Australian journalist, and not some muppet or a "UFO performer". And I assume he has access to some serious sources with high clearance levels.

What is interesting, is the switch from the term "extra-terrestrial" to "NHI" (non-human intelligence). This term is used, among others by Nolan, Grusch and Coulthart. And again, it doesn't surprise me...

�Ridicule is not a part of the scientific method and the public should not be taught that it is.�

� J. Allen Hynek

Latest news. Reports coming in of two f16s engaging a UFO over lake Huron. Allegedly many witnesses saw the planes engaged I a dog fight with what appeared to be a disk..

Local air bases were approached for comment and have stated that none of their aircraft were in the area at any time.

Flight radar 24 paid version anyone? It has a rewind function if you do ...

https://www.google.com/search?q=F-16s+engaged+in+dogfight+over+Bad+Axe&oq=F-16s+engaged+in+dogfight+over+Bad+Axe&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160.1248j0j4&client=ms-android-samsung-gs-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ip=1

Quote from: Lowls on June 16, 2023, 15:41

Latest news. Reports coming in of two f16s engaging a UFO over lake Huron. Allegedly many witnesses saw the planes engaged I a dog fight with what appeared to be a disk......

the reports 'came in' 2 days ago about an incident on jun 3 ...

dogfight is an exaggeration the f16 were not fired on (in feb there was an incident where f16 shot down an object over lake huron in the week after the shootdown of the chinese weather balloon) - this incident is based on witnesses who admit it was difficult to see because of glare (and so once again, no video confirmation). allegedly the f16s discharged defensive flares then flew away while the object took a 'victory lap.' hardly the response expected from our air defense!!

Well don't forget there were no planes in the area according to the bases. Technically if the craft or a craft or enemy plane uses defensive technology to block the onboard systems used to determine its location, distance and other criteria that can assess that info against known same criteria which are in the database and allow an I.D., if blocking technology is used its apparently a declaration of war.

Anyway this from 3 years ago. If you want to see Neil Degrasi Tyson stop talking for a nano second what this video.

https://youtu.be/sAeTqnRbItg

In it you'll see Jill Tartar - Astronomer and former director of SETI explain to NDT how much of the universe we have searched in its efforts to find extra terrestrial life. She is very down to earth unlike the windbag Seth Showstak who's rabid Skepticism should exclude him from any debate. He'd deny the earth was round if a ufologist said it was.

The hilarious thing about flat earthers is that it's extremely hard to prove them wrong. You might think it's ludicrous but seriously pretend they are Skeptics for a second and you have to prove them wrong with everything you can. lol. it's almost impossible.

Unfortunately, this field is full of hoaxes, muppets and disinformation.

Really? I hadn't noticed that.

What is interesting, is the switch from the term "extra-terrestrial" to "NHI" (non-human intelligence). This term is used, among others by Nolan, Grusch and Coulthart. And again, it doesn't surprise me...

If you are in search for non-human intelligence, then look no further. Your search is over!

There is certainly non-human intelligence on this planet. Chimpanzees and other great apes for example are quite intelligent. They can even learn sign language and other forms of language, although unfortunately they cannot talk, due to anatomcial reasons. Cetaceans are also among the most intelligent animals. Cats and dogs are also intelligent and even some birds like ravens.

Quote from: LDV81 on June 16, 2023, 11:05

Unfortunately, this field is full of hoaxes, muppets and disinformation.

Really? I hadn't noticed that.

Quote from: LDV81 on June 16, 2023, 11:05

What is interesting, is the switch from the term "extra-terrestrial" to "NHI" (non-human intelligence). This term is used, among others by Nolan, Grusch and Coulthart. And again, it doesn't surprise me...

If you are in search for non-human intelligence, then look no further. Your search is over!

There is certainly non-human intelligence on this planet. Chimpanzees and other great apes for example are quite intelligent. They can even learn sign language and other forms of language, although unfortunately they cannot talk, due to anatomcial reasons. Cetaceans are also among the most intelligent animals. Cats and dogs are also intelligent and even some birds like ravens.

Right so, a sense of humour is by the by but dismissal isn't scientific nor is it inteligent. You cannot ... well you. an do what you like lol ... but you can't have it both ways. Ether you include all data and work inwards or you exclude the data that doesn't suit and render conclusions as nothing more than conjecture. If you claim otherwise you've lost me and I'll not jump on your gentle humour but can't seriously speak on this subject with a complete stranger who could be a cat lady that eats from a litter tray lol.

Quote from: cascoly on June 16, 2023, 17:35

Quote from: Lowls on June 16, 2023, 15:41

Latest news. Reports coming in of two f16s engaging a UFO over lake Huron. Allegedly many witnesses saw the planes engaged I a dog fight with what appeared to be a disk......

the reports 'came in' 2 days ago about an incident on jun 3 ...

dogfight is an exaggeration the f16 were not fired on (in feb there was an incident where f16 shot down an object over lake huron in the week after the shootdown of the chinese weather balloon) - this incident is based on witnesses who admit it was difficult to see because of glare (and so once again, no video confirmation). allegedly the f16s discharged defensive flares then flew away while the object took a 'victory lap.' hardly the response expected from our air defense!!

Well don't forget there were no planes in the area according to the bases. Technically if the craft or a craft or enemy plane uses defensive technology to block the onboard systems used to determine its location, distance and other criteria that can assess that info against known same criteria which are in the database and allow an I.D., if blocking technology is used its apparently a declaration of war. ....

did you read your own link  no one said the alleged disk made any offensive actions, nor did it block defenses, it was the f16 that alleged fired flares.  more troubling would be US planes that gave up affter encountering an 'enemy' in US airspace

 and that area is commonly used for actual dogfight training.

Quote from: Big Toe on June 17, 2023, 07:46

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There is certainly non-human intelligence on this planet. Chimpanzees and other great apes for example are quite intelligent. They can even learn sign language and other forms of language, although unfortunately they cannot talk, due to anatomcial reasons. Cetaceans are also among the most intelligent animals. Cats and dogs are also intelligent and even some birds like ravens.

and then there is Alex the gray parrot
https://www.npr.org/2009/08/31/112405883/alex-me-the-parrot-who-said-i-love-you

it's an very readable book about an amazing bird -- many utube examples

https://www.npr.org/2009/08/31/112405883/alex-me-the-parrot-who-said-i-love-you

One of the most fascinating is the chimpanzees that they show a screen lit with squared numbers in numerical order. He taps number 1 and the rest vanish and he has to remember where the rest are. He does it in about 2.5 seconds. Even their own team that train cannot match him. Brilliant.  And then there is the rat that has learnt to use a stick to set off a rat trap so it can safely obtain the food.

It seems that many species have or are extremely capable of evolving extremely fast. Judging by the comments on many utube clips it appears we are devolving.

Quote from: Lowls on June 16, 2023, 17:56

Quote from: cascoly on June 16, 2023, 17:35

Quote from: Lowls on June 16, 2023, 15:41

Latest news. Reports coming in of two f16s engaging a UFO over lake Huron. Allegedly many witnesses saw the planes engaged I a dog fight with what appeared to be a disk......

the reports 'came in' 2 days ago about an incident on jun 3 ...

dogfight is an exaggeration the f16 were not fired on (in feb there was an incident where f16 shot down an object over lake huron in the week after the shootdown of the chinese weather balloon) - this incident is based on witnesses who admit it was difficult to see because of glare (and so once again, no video confirmation). allegedly the f16s discharged defensive flares then flew away while the object took a 'victory lap.' hardly the response expected from our air defense!!

Well don't forget there were no planes in the area according to the bases. Technically if the craft or a craft or enemy plane uses defensive technology to block the onboard systems used to determine its location, distance and other criteria that can assess that info against known same criteria which are in the database and allow an I.D., if blocking technology is used its apparently a declaration of war. ....

did you read your own link  no one said the alleged disk made any offensive actions, nor did it block defenses, it was the f16 that alleged fired flares.  more troubling would be US planes that gave up affter encountering an 'enemy' in US airspace

 and that area is commonly used for actual dogfight training.

No I didn't I'm afraid. I saw the various mentions but given David Grusch there will be an uptick in reports from dubious sources. I just mentioned it in passing. However I did read a more reliable source that as you stated reports they set off flares or I assume chaff. Which is a defensive action. The reason I mention jammed instruments is because when David Fravor reported his encounter the Tic tac.

He was heading out to a training range with his rio (nav guy behind him) and in another jet was Lt Detrich (I think I've spelled her name right) and the training was to meet up at a CAP point out at sea and begin the chase exercise.
On the way Fravor received communication from I think the Princetown ... "Break off from training run we have real world tasking"
Detrich says in her report that she thought ooooo we are going after some drug running plane that will be cool. As they approached the area 20,000 feet below them just beneath the surface of the water was an X shaped craft about the size of a 747 with wash breaking across its surface. She initially thought a downed aircraft. But suddenly they all caught sight of the Tic tac and it was zipping north south, east west over the craft. They circled and Fravor said I'm gonna take a look. Detrich said she would remain high and give lookout. As Fravor decended it angled up and zipped up ro his altitude in a large spiral. Fravor spiralled too until they were the same altitude and Fravir cut across the circle to get closer. He got within .1 of a mile which is nothing and it vanished.

He called that in and the Princetown reported back we have it on radar. In about 3 seconds they'd found it. It was stationary, 60 miles away, at their CAP point.

Fravor reported that his onboard instruments whilst initially showing it stopped showing it. Nothing was found wrong with his instruments. It had jammed them. Which is why I mentioned act if war because that's in his statement.

Quote from: cascoly on June 17, 2023, 12:41

Quote from: Lowls on June 16, 2023, 17:56

Quote from: cascoly on June 16, 2023, 17:35

Quote from: Lowls on June 16, 2023, 15:41

Latest news. Reports coming in of two f16s engaging a UFO over lake Huron. Allegedly many witnesses saw the planes engaged I a dog fight with what appeared to be a disk......

the reports 'came in' 2 days ago about an incident on jun 3 ...

dogfight is an exaggeration the f16 were not fired on (in feb there was an incident where f16 shot down an object over lake huron in the week after the shootdown of the chinese weather balloon) - this incident is based on witnesses who admit it was difficult to see because of glare (and so once again, no video confirmation). allegedly the f16s discharged defensive flares then flew away while the object took a 'victory lap.' hardly the response expected from our air defense!!

Well don't forget there were no planes in the area according to the bases. Technically if the craft or a craft or enemy plane uses defensive technology to block the onboard systems used to determine its location, distance and other criteria that can assess that info against known same criteria which are in the database and allow an I.D., if blocking technology is used its apparently a declaration of war. ....

did you read your own link  no one said the alleged disk made any offensive actions, nor did it block defenses, it was the f16 that alleged fired flares.  more troubling would be US planes that gave up affter encountering an 'enemy' in US airspace

 and that area is commonly used for actual dogfight training.

No I didn't I'm afraid. I saw the various mentions but given David Grusch there will be an uptick in reports from dubious sources. I just mentioned it in passing. However I did read a more reliable source that as you stated reports they set off flares or I assume chaff. Which is a defensive action. The reason I mention jammed instruments is because when David Fravor reported his encounter the Tic tac. ...t.

ROFL - so, not only did you not bother to read your own recommendation, you then use a completely different incident to show the veracity of an incident hundreds of miles away

The next installment ....

Larry Mcguire Candian MP. In 2022 Larry met with various people regarding the issue of UAP and the then shocking release of information that resulted in the UAP Task Force creation by Congress. AARO. He had some questions because he had concerns that Candian pilots and military personnel had also been regularly reporting sightings and encounters and had been for some time. Article here - https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/canada/2022/5/17/1_5908082.amp.html

Today a memo has been made public, the partial of which is below and the full memo available and its context here:

https://youtu.be/D06uQdk2cys

partial reads as follows ...

From Larry McGuire MP

Dear Minister Anand,

it has come to my attention through meetings with American officials, the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and Senate Committee on Armed Services have been undertaking in-camera meetings with governmnent and military subject matter experts on the recovery and exploitation of physical material from Unidentified Aerial Phenomena UAP.

I am concerned that the expected upcoming public announcements will be coordinated between AUKUS which could damage Canadas credibility with her allies and the Canadian public on the world stage. There is an opertunity to have a prepared communication plan in place by May 2023 to reduce this risk.

As minister of National Defence you may not be aware that the Defence Research Department Canada has participated in efforts to analyse UAP which is publicly traceable since 1950. This recovered foreign material is studied through the Five Eyes Foriegn Material Programme which in Canada is sponsored by the Canadian Forces Inteligence Command aligned with several Intelligence sharing arrangements and treaties. I am writing to recommend you request a classified briefing,  containing full sensitive and protected programme information from your officials on the Government of Canadas historic and ongoing efforts on analysis of recovered UAP materials ....

it continues and has been CC'd to various departments and individual. Full memo on the video above. Downloadable shortly.