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« Reply #125 on: June 27, 2016, 14:10 »
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On top of that the government wants to wait a while before filing for article 50 in the EU,


So does Johnson, because it wasn't the plan, it was an accident.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/guardian-comment-boris-johnson_uk_576faf9be4b0d2571149c8b9

Don't worry about Johnson and Falange, they can easily get jobs as comedians or con men.


Meanwhile Johnson has been hiding in the bushes.


50%

« Reply #126 on: June 27, 2016, 16:08 »
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Brexit will cost jobs and life will get harder for a lot of people in and out of the UK. There will be some winners but as usual these won't be the poor or normal people. It was and it is so easy to blame the EU for every mishappening in one's personal life but despite huge mistakes that nobody denies the EU was and is the biggest peace-making project ever invented and most people did profit more from it then they will ever realize.
But the effects of Brexit on our MS-business will be far less than anything the greedy agencies put on us in the past.

« Reply #127 on: June 27, 2016, 16:28 »
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Keep calm and wait two years.  It will be at least that long before the paper work is done and anything happens.  After that everyone will adapt. 

« Reply #128 on: June 27, 2016, 16:44 »
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The English football players have just voted to exit also the European Championship. UNBELIEVABLE! Enxit!
« Last Edit: June 27, 2016, 16:48 by LDV81 »

« Reply #129 on: June 27, 2016, 16:54 »
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"For your information, a bigger sample is always more representative." Only if its unbiased

« Reply #130 on: June 27, 2016, 16:54 »
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Brexit will cost jobs and life will get harder for a lot of people in and out of the UK. There will be some winners but as usual these won't be the poor or normal people. It was and it is so easy to blame the EU for every mishappening in one's personal life but despite huge mistakes that nobody denies the EU was and is the biggest peace-making project ever invented and most people did profit more from it then they will ever realize.
But the effects of Brexit on our MS-business will be far less than anything the greedy agencies put on us in the past.

I do it was NATO

« Reply #131 on: June 27, 2016, 16:55 »
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The English football players have just voted to exit also the European Championship. UNBELIEVABLE! Enxit!

Beaten by a team outside the EU :-)

« Reply #132 on: June 27, 2016, 16:59 »
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Keep calm and wait two years.  It will be at least that long before the paper work is done and anything happens.  After that everyone will adapt.
Businesses can't wait for 2 years, they want stability. It seems everyone in the UK politics want to drag this on as long as possible, the perfect recipe to chase all the foreign companies away. Maybe by then the UK market value is as tiny as Belgium.

« Reply #133 on: June 27, 2016, 17:04 »
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The English football players have just voted to exit also the European Championship. UNBELIEVABLE! Enxit!
I think 10% of Iceland's population was there in the stadium to witness it. Respect to the Icelandic team

« Reply #134 on: June 27, 2016, 17:22 »
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The English football players have just voted to exit also the European Championship. UNBELIEVABLE! Enxit!

Beaten by a team outside the EU :-)

I suppose it was also EU's fault, because it had banned blue grass and square balls, so the English players were not able to train properly.

« Reply #135 on: June 27, 2016, 18:02 »
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from what i just read, those who are from Canada, Europe,etc will have a bigger pay-cheque this month due to the rise of the US $ foreigh exchange due to this issue.

« Reply #136 on: June 28, 2016, 00:57 »
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from what i just read, those who are from Canada, Europe,etc will have a bigger pay-cheque this month due to the rise of the US $ foreigh exchange due to this issue.
and the UK of course

« Reply #137 on: June 28, 2016, 03:55 »
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from what i just read, those who are from Canada, Europe,etc will have a bigger pay-cheque this month due to the rise of the US $ foreigh exchange due to this issue.
and the UK of course
People with pound as their local currency will benefit the most, until the prices of everyday living rise also called inflation.

« Reply #138 on: June 28, 2016, 10:18 »
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Hm.
The UK is going global instead of being bound to a continent in ressesion.
The UK has built 2 large aircraft carriers.
The UK has Stepping stones everywhere on the globe. Singapore, Hong Kong, and Bombay being the most important.
The UK and USA is tightly connected, UK is such bringing USA into Europe.

and let us put simple and easy.
I often buy goods from the UK, via ebay... not because of the price, or the quality. But mostly because they are there and available. Led Light bulbs, and makita batteries.
UK is the global platform in Europe. A treashold. It has always been. It will not go away, because the continental French and Germans would like it to.

I fear the biggest impact of Brexit will be the loss of global influence by the EU.

50%

« Reply #139 on: June 28, 2016, 14:05 »
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I often buy goods from the UK, via ebay... not because of the price, or the quality. But mostly because they are there and available. Led Light bulbs, and makita batteries.
UK is the global platform in Europe. A treashold. It has always been. It will not go away, because the continental French and Germans would like it to.

you do realise that these goods are Chinese products from Chinese traders that use offices in the UK as a springboard for the European market to avoid tax, customs and VAT? Exactly this will stop and many other things on a much much larger scale because the UK voted to leave the single European market!
« Last Edit: June 28, 2016, 14:12 by 50% »

50%

« Reply #140 on: June 28, 2016, 14:16 »
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It will not go away, because the continental French and Germans would like it to.

No one in Germany wanted to go this away all parties in Germany see the leave of the UK as a very sad thing. It goes away because the UK voted for it to go away!

« Reply #141 on: June 28, 2016, 14:34 »
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I think there will be a general election before article 50 is activated. If the Liberal Democrats have any sense they will run on a platform of staying in the EU based on fraudulent claims made by the out campaign. As elections are won with much smaller numbers they walk into number 10 and the uk stays in the eu. Brussels is finally frightened into some real reform. Everyone kisses and makes up.

There's my bit of fan fic for the day.

« Reply #142 on: June 28, 2016, 14:50 »
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I think there will be a general election before article 50 is activated. If the Liberal Democrats have any sense they will run on a platform of staying in the EU based on fraudulent claims made by the out campaign. As elections are won with much smaller numbers they walk into number 10 and the uk stays in the eu. Brussels is finally frightened into some real reform. Everyone kisses and makes up.

There's my bit of fan fic for the day.
That would be the farce of the century if you ask me. It's like nobody takes the referendum seriously, voters and politicians. I guess UK residents got scared by Osborne's speech of spending cut and higher taxes.
EU reform was already planned before the British referendum btw.


« Reply #143 on: June 28, 2016, 16:01 »
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I think there will be a general election before article 50 is activated. If the Liberal Democrats have any sense they will run on a platform of staying in the EU based on fraudulent claims made by the out campaign. As elections are won with much smaller numbers they walk into number 10 and the uk stays in the eu. Brussels is finally frightened into some real reform. Everyone kisses and makes up.

There's my bit of fan fic for the day.
As much chance of that as England winning the Euros.......If there is an election with the referendum result being ignored it will be UKIP walking into no 10 which really would be a disaster.

« Reply #144 on: June 28, 2016, 16:16 »
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What is interesting is whether:

1. Scotland could veto Brexit? It might not be very likely, but the Scottish Parliament must represent the will of the people of Scotland. From what I have read, the constitutional status of Scotland is somehow linked to the EU (Scotland Act or something else). Scottish MPs do not need to care at all how the English voted, their job is to represent Scottish interests, so if they find a legal loophole to block Brexit, they would probably do so.

2. If they cannot block Brexit, could they remain in the EU (possibly with N. Ireland and Gibraltar) while England and Wales leave? (I mean without proclaiming independence) It might seem strange at first, but: 1. The Isle of Man is represented in foreign matters by the UK, and it is not part of the EU. Other British Overseas Territories also don't belong to the EU. 2.Greenland belongs to Denmark, but it left the EU in the 1980s while Denmark stayed.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2016, 16:20 by LDV81 »

« Reply #145 on: June 28, 2016, 17:23 »
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That's great but where the word Dozen? Or Half Dozen?

Do you need to be constantly reminded that six is half dozen? I live in another EU country and I have been buying similar packs as long as I remember.
6 will always be 6,  2 x 6 will always be 12 no matter if you call it a dozen or not.

LOL , reminds me of the comedian at the farmers' market who cheerfully tells us
"our price is the most flexible, you can choose 6 or half a dozen ... we won't charge you a penny more!!!" wink wink ;D

« Reply #146 on: June 28, 2016, 18:30 »
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That's great but where the word Dozen? Or Half Dozen?

Do you need to be constantly reminded that six is half dozen? I live in another EU country and I have been buying similar packs as long as I remember.
6 will always be 6,  2 x 6 will always be 12 no matter if you call it a dozen or not.

LOL , reminds me of the comedian at the farmers' market who cheerfully tells us
"our price is the most flexible, you can choose 6 or half a dozen ... we won't charge you a penny more!!!" wink wink ;D

Some people never buy eggs apparently but they categorically demand the right to buy eggs by the dozen.
"You may buy eggs by the dozen whenever you wish and it has always been this way."
"Hmmmm, but the seller must inform me in writing that it is a dozen or half a dozen, otherwise I don't know if the quantity is equal to a dozen! 6 or 12 can be so misleading!"

« Reply #147 on: June 29, 2016, 00:52 »
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The problem with this referendum was that it was just about leaving the EU.  The leave campaign bombarded me with leaflets telling me we spend 350 million a week on the EU and implying that all of that could be spent on the NHS.  The bit about the rebate and all the money that we get back from the EU is either in the small print or left out.  While I didn't fall for that, the small majority that swung the vote may of done.  The stay campaign warned of the consequences of leaving the EU but that was an unknown, unlike the facts we had about how much the EU costs.  The stay campaign lost, so their claims wont be under so much scrutiny.

I can see this referendum being run again.  When we see the actual deal that the new prime minister gets, they wont be able to say  that we will save 350 million a week and give it to the NHS.  They will either have to accept freedom of movement or tell us how much it will cost not to have it.  The EU might offer a better deal if we vote to stay in now.

If this is like a divorce that takes 2 years and costs both sides a lot of money, I think there may be a time when we decide it would be better to stay together.  How many divorces go through when the person asking for the divorce is only 52% sure they want one?

« Reply #148 on: June 29, 2016, 02:16 »
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What is interesting is whether:

1. Scotland could veto Brexit? It might not be very likely, but the Scottish Parliament must represent the will of the people of Scotland. From what I have read, the constitutional status of Scotland is somehow linked to the EU (Scotland Act or something else). Scottish MPs do not need to care at all how the English voted, their job is to represent Scottish interests, so if they find a legal loophole to block Brexit, they would probably do so.

2. If they cannot block Brexit, could they remain in the EU (possibly with N. Ireland and Gibraltar) while England and Wales leave? (I mean without proclaiming independence) It might seem strange at first, but: 1. The Isle of Man is represented in foreign matters by the UK, and it is not part of the EU. Other British Overseas Territories also don't belong to the EU. 2.Greenland belongs to Denmark, but it left the EU in the 1980s while Denmark stayed.
I don't think Scotland can veto Brexit. They would need a Independence referendum which is by no means a certain outcome they would also need to negotiate a deal with the EU no easy task with Spanish concerns about independence movements in their own country  and the small matter of currency. I cant see how they can can be part of the UK and in Europe just not practical.

« Reply #149 on: June 29, 2016, 02:22 »
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What is interesting is whether:

1. Scotland could veto Brexit? It might not be very likely, but the Scottish Parliament must represent the will of the people of Scotland. From what I have read, the constitutional status of Scotland is somehow linked to the EU (Scotland Act or something else). Scottish MPs do not need to care at all how the English voted, their job is to represent Scottish interests, so if they find a legal loophole to block Brexit, they would probably do so.

2. If they cannot block Brexit, could they remain in the EU (possibly with N. Ireland and Gibraltar) while England and Wales leave? (I mean without proclaiming independence) It might seem strange at first, but: 1. The Isle of Man is represented in foreign matters by the UK, and it is not part of the EU. Other British Overseas Territories also don't belong to the EU. 2.Greenland belongs to Denmark, but it left the EU in the 1980s while Denmark stayed.
I don't think Scotland can veto Brexit. They would need a Independence referendum which is by no means a certain outcome they would also need to negotiate a deal with the EU no easy task with Spanish concerns about independence movements in their own country  and the small matter of currency. I cant see how they can can be part of the UK and in Europe just not practical.

I read one article the other day. Along the lines it said that "theoretically" it could but this, but that trumps this, this trumps that.... It was very confusing since I am not from there but there were several Legal acts.
Fact is this is pretty much new territory for everyone - legal, economic, etc. Next couple of years should be interesting.

And I read what someone wrote that if UK decides to stay in now that they could get better benefits.... No. This will not happen at all. UK already had more than any other member of EU. And even if it is the case, nobody would ever consider UK serious - we want out, uuuuu benefits we want in - we dont like this we want out - uuu benefits - you get the point


 

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