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« Reply #75 on: June 26, 2016, 08:32 »
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The funny thing is that the regions voting for Brexit are the poor regions in England and Wales, regions which are getting subsidies from EU. I guess they have to suffer for their own choice.
Comparing the UK with Norway and Switzerland is not smart since both countries are far richer than the UK. Excluding London the UK is only at 80% of the average wages in EU which is lower now thanks to the weak pound. Iceland can't jiin the EU because of the EU fishing regulations. Fishing is a huge industry which they won't give up. It's all about the territorial fishing waters if you want to know more about it

Regarding areas that benefit most from EU being most likely to vote to leave. That is almost always the case in these things. Same as in the US the states that benefit most from Federal funding hate the Federal government the most and vote for cuts. Whether that is because they are also the poorest people, so most need the aid and are therefore simultaneously the ones most being left behind and the ones benefiting the most from benefits or whether it is because people generally resent having to rely on handouts I don't know.

As far as Norway and Switzerland. Norway is a very special case, tiny country who's prosperity is almost entirely down to oil. Iceland also absolutely tiny. Switzerland, much smaller than the UK but there is some validity to the comparison. You can't dismiss it because Switzerland is more prosperous if the whole debate is about whether the UK can be prosperous outside the EU. Will you only accept comparison with countries that are failing outside the EU? if that's the case than the argument is sort of over before it begins isn't it?
True, but in the Brexit campaign all they mention is Norway and Switzerland.
It's about the EEA, Norway and Iceland are in it, Switzerland rejected it, but has bilateral agreements with the EU. Brexit campaign didn't mention about the 1.3bn EEA and Norway grants Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein have to pay without having any vote or representation in the EU.
Still sounds good?


« Reply #76 on: June 26, 2016, 09:10 »
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Back to the topic question, I don't think it will change much. EU oriented businesses will move from the UK to the EU, but they will still need images, to me it doesn't matter if the sale is from the UK or Germany or Ireland. Sales from the UK will probably be less in the short future because of economic slowdown or recession, but the EU won't be affected by the Brexit like it does for the UK, so sales in the EU is expected to be the same or maybe higher when businesses move to the EU.
Agencies pay out in USD so no change there, except FT which pays in if you're UK based, that will mean a pay cut for UK contributors. How this will affect USD paying UK agencies remains a question, they may have to change payout currency or lower commissions if the agencies are more UK sales oriented.

In case you have a stock or bond portfolio for your pension, I got rid of UK companies and companies doing most of their business in the UK a couple of months ago, cause then I thought Brexit will win. I also got rid of European financials and automotive and I never had UK bonds.
At the end of trading on Friday my whole portfolio went up with 6.7% thanks to put options in UK financials which got hit hard Friday.

« Reply #77 on: June 26, 2016, 09:12 »
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True, but in the Brexit campaign all they mention is Norway and Switzerland.
It's about the EEA, Norway and Iceland are in it, Switzerland rejected it, but has bilateral agreements with the EU. Brexit campaign didn't mention about the 1.3bn EEA and Norway grants Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein have to pay without having any vote or representation in the EU.
Still sounds good?


But of course none of those countries have anything like the population of that Britain has, and presumably don't represent such a good market for the EU to sell to.
Perhaps we could charge the EU for selling their goods and services here.


Whatever. The die is cast. We are out of the rather tarnished gilded cage that the EU has  (or had) become.
I know I'm not alone in wondering how long the monster can survive now.

« Reply #78 on: June 26, 2016, 09:16 »
+3

True, but in the Brexit campaign all they mention is Norway and Switzerland.
It's about the EEA, Norway and Iceland are in it, Switzerland rejected it, but has bilateral agreements with the EU. Brexit campaign didn't mention about the 1.3bn EEA and Norway grants Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein have to pay without having any vote or representation in the EU.
Still sounds good?

Quite honestly the Brexit campaign was an absolute disgrace. I hadn't made my mind up how to vote until I got in the booth, largely because I didn't want to be on the same side as so many dubious characters that had spouted so much nonsense (largely xenophobic nonsense at that) in the campaign.

Then again I also I didn't like being threatened by other member states in the EU with punishment on the event of a Brexit or the scaremongering by some of the Remain campaign.

In the end I voted based on what I felt would be best for the country in the long run without letting my vote be pulled in direction or the other by dislike of those on either side. In the end I think fear would would have been what made me vote to Remain, and I didn't think that was a good enough reason.


« Reply #79 on: June 26, 2016, 09:20 »
+1
True, but in the Brexit campaign all they mention is Norway and Switzerland.
It's about the EEA, Norway and Iceland are in it, Switzerland rejected it, but has bilateral agreements with the EU. Brexit campaign didn't mention about the 1.3bn EEA and Norway grants Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein have to pay without having any vote or representation in the EU.
Still sounds good?


But of course none of those countries have anything like the population of that Britain has, and presumably don't represent such a good market for the EU to sell to.
Perhaps we could charge the EU for selling their goods and services here.


Whatever. The die is cast. We are out of the rather tarnished gilded cage that the EU has  (or had) become.
I know I'm not alone in wondering how long the monster can survive now.
The only thing in common is that all of these countries are importing a lot from the EU. More than the other way around.
You can bet there will be import charges on both side. At the end the consumer will notice the prices of these goods are going up.

« Reply #80 on: June 26, 2016, 09:28 »
+1

True, but in the Brexit campaign all they mention is Norway and Switzerland.
It's about the EEA, Norway and Iceland are in it, Switzerland rejected it, but has bilateral agreements with the EU. Brexit campaign didn't mention about the 1.3bn EEA and Norway grants Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein have to pay without having any vote or representation in the EU.
Still sounds good?

Quite honestly the Brexit campaign was an absolute disgrace. I hadn't made my mind up how to vote until I got in the booth, largely because I didn't want to be on the same side as so many dubious characters that had spouted so much nonsense (largely xenophobic nonsense at that) in the campaign.

Then again I also I didn't like being threatened by other member states in the EU with punishment on the event of a Brexit or the scaremongering by some of the Remain campaign.

In the end I voted based on what I felt would be best for the country in the long run without letting my vote be pulled in direction or the other by dislike of those on either side. In the end I think fear would would have been what made me vote to Remain, and I didn't think that was a good enough reason.
It's all over Europe, populist parties are winning everywhere and they all want to get out of the EU. Financially it would be a disaster, the market is too much integrated already. Time will tell what happens.

« Reply #81 on: June 26, 2016, 09:36 »
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True, but in the Brexit campaign all they mention is Norway and Switzerland.
It's about the EEA, Norway and Iceland are in it, Switzerland rejected it, but has bilateral agreements with the EU. Brexit campaign didn't mention about the 1.3bn EEA and Norway grants Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein have to pay without having any vote or representation in the EU.
Still sounds good?


But of course none of those countries have anything like the population of that Britain has, and presumably don't represent such a good market for the EU to sell to.
Perhaps we could charge the EU for selling their goods and services here.


Whatever. The die is cast. We are out of the rather tarnished gilded cage that the EU has  (or had) become.
I know I'm not alone in wondering how long the monster can survive now.
The only thing in common is that all of these countries are importing a lot from the EU. More than the other way around.
You can bet there will be import charges on both side. At the end the consumer will notice the prices of these goods are going up.

Depends on how good our (and their!) negotiators are. Hopefully we'll have someone better than failed UK politicians and other "cronies" to do the job on our behalf this time.


As I said earlier, I think the whole thing will fail with or without us here.


It'll be tough at first for some of the countries who are reliant on EU finance when it happens. The bigger countries will carry on more or less as normal once the first shock is over.


Only time will tell though as you say. I don't think that the EU is, or ever was the be-all and end-all. Despite it's own attempts to make itself just that.




« Last Edit: June 26, 2016, 10:06 by Difydave »

« Reply #82 on: June 26, 2016, 10:18 »
+2

True, but in the Brexit campaign all they mention is Norway and Switzerland.
It's about the EEA, Norway and Iceland are in it, Switzerland rejected it, but has bilateral agreements with the EU. Brexit campaign didn't mention about the 1.3bn EEA and Norway grants Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein have to pay without having any vote or representation in the EU.
Still sounds good?


Quite honestly the Brexit campaign was an absolute disgrace. I hadn't made my mind up how to vote until I got in the booth, largely because I didn't want to be on the same side as so many dubious characters that had spouted so much nonsense (largely xenophobic nonsense at that) in the campaign.

Then again I also I didn't like being threatened by other member states in the EU with punishment on the event of a Brexit or the scaremongering by some of the Remain campaign.

In the end I voted based on what I felt would be best for the country in the long run without letting my vote be pulled in direction or the other by dislike of those on either side. In the end I think fear would would have been what made me vote to Remain, and I didn't think that was a good enough reason.
Pretty much the same with me..I came very close to changing my mind at the last minute and to be honest 60-40 to stay in would I think have been better than this knife edge result. The current turmoil is very concerning but in the long run I think it is the right decision but I think it is finely balanced.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2016, 10:31 by Pauws99 »

« Reply #83 on: June 26, 2016, 11:41 »
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so people in the uk are anry because they cant buy a 100w bulb or eggs by the dozen and send a whole country down the hole. i understand what the eu has done for the people in the eu, yes you probably will have to suck up not being able to buy a 5000 watt vacuum cleaner, but voting to leave was silly, to say the least

Shelma1

« Reply #84 on: June 26, 2016, 11:47 »
+4
Regarding areas that benefit most from EU being most likely to vote to leave. That is almost always the case in these things. Same as in the US the states that benefit most from Federal funding hate the Federal government the most and vote for cuts. Whether that is because they are also the poorest people, so most need the aid and are therefore simultaneously the ones most being left behind and the ones benefiting the most from benefits or whether it is because people generally resent having to rely on handouts I don't know.

The people who rely most on government benefits tend to be the poor and poorly educated (Trump: "I love the uneducated!"), who view their own benefits as their right, yet see everyone else's benefits as handouts. They also hate the people who pay the taxes that give them their benefits. And because of their lack of education, they're more easily misled by false claims and chicanery (pay attention to things like abortion laws and transgender people using the bathroomand vote for me!while I quietly cut your benefits and laugh all the way to the bank).

« Reply #85 on: June 26, 2016, 11:59 »
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as for trump, was in scotland after the vote and praised the people for taking their country back, not realizing/knowing the whole of scotland had voted to stay with the eu. comedy gold that man, God forbid he ever takes the Whitehouse

ShadySue

« Reply #86 on: June 26, 2016, 12:09 »
+5
as for trump, was in scotland after the vote and praised the people for taking their country back, not realizing/knowing the whole of scotland had voted to stay with the eu. comedy gold that man, God forbid he ever takes the Whitehouse

Indeed. Trump claims to love us, but we don't love him back.
He seems to be as geographically ignorant as Dubya, who famously asked Charlotte Church which State Wales is in.  ::)

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/british-lose-right-to-claim-that-americans-are-dumber
"In the face of this startling display of national idiocy, Dorrinson still mustered some of the resilience for which the British people are known. This is a dark day, he said. But I hold out hope that, come November, Americans could become dumber than us once more."
« Last Edit: June 26, 2016, 16:13 by ShadySue »

« Reply #87 on: June 26, 2016, 12:40 »
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so people in the uk are anry because they cant buy a 100w bulb or eggs by the dozen and send a whole country down the hole. i understand what the eu has done for the people in the eu, yes you probably will have to suck up not being able to buy a 5000 watt vacuum cleaner, but voting to leave was silly, to say the least


Yes we British are well noted for our extreme silliness.
Every day here is like an episode from Fawlty Towers.
And the country is run entirely by winners of "Upper Class Twit of the Year"


Unlike the rest of the EU countries, who are of course eminently sensible in all things, worrying as they do when brought together in a parliament about the straightness of bananas, whether certain types of lightbulb should be allowed, and the acceptable power of vacuum cleaners.  ;D


It cuts both ways.


It's raining here today. I think the EU has cut the sunshine off already!  ;D

« Reply #88 on: June 26, 2016, 12:45 »
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coz thats what i said right? pff. if you read the whole thing youd have seen i just use the comments of some posters here, anyway, shouldnt get involved with politics, back to editing

« Reply #89 on: June 26, 2016, 14:03 »
+5
so people in the uk are anry because they cant buy a 100w bulb or eggs by the dozen and send a whole country down the hole. i understand what the eu has done for the people in the eu, yes you probably will have to suck up not being able to buy a 5000 watt vacuum cleaner, but voting to leave was silly, to say the least
Just look on amazon uk and there are 100w bulbs for sale.  I have seen them in the high street shops as well.  There was never a time when we couldn't buy eggs by the dozen.  For some reason, the EU gets blamed for everything.

« Reply #90 on: June 26, 2016, 14:17 »
+2
so people in the uk are anry because they cant buy a 100w bulb or eggs by the dozen and send a whole country down the hole. i understand what the eu has done for the people in the eu, yes you probably will have to suck up not being able to buy a 5000 watt vacuum cleaner, but voting to leave was silly, to say the least
Just look on amazon uk and there are 100w bulbs for sale.  I have seen them in the high street shops as well.  There was never a time when we couldn't buy eggs by the dozen.  For some reason, the EU gets blamed for everything.

Have a look at eggs next time you're in the shop. It's now by weight and not by the dozen. It's all the small things that begin to add up that grate on people's conscious and subconscious. It's not really about eggs or vacuum cleaners but the fact that the more control you give them the more they take away.

I don't want a European state with a European Super Army.
I believe in Democracy.

« Reply #91 on: June 26, 2016, 14:22 »
+4
so people in the uk are anry because they cant buy a 100w bulb or eggs by the dozen and send a whole country down the hole. i understand what the eu has done for the people in the eu, yes you probably will have to suck up not being able to buy a 5000 watt vacuum cleaner, but voting to leave was silly, to say the least
Just look on amazon uk and there are 100w bulbs for sale.  I have seen them in the high street shops as well.  There was never a time when we couldn't buy eggs by the dozen.  For some reason, the EU gets blamed for everything.

Have a look at eggs next time you're in the shop. It's now by weight and not by the dozen. It's all the small things that begin to add up that grate on people's conscious and subconscious. It's not really about eggs or vacuum cleaners but the fact that the more control you give them the more they take away.

I don't want a European state with a European Super Army.
I believe in Democracy.
I voted out but come on eggs are sold by the dozen, sometimes 10 sold by size I've NEVER seen them sold by weight

« Reply #92 on: June 26, 2016, 14:23 »
+5
people blame the EU because they are clueless  about what good the eu has done, they don't even know the negatives. ive read comments of out voters blaming the eu for legislation imposed on them by their own government

« Reply #93 on: June 26, 2016, 14:27 »
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so people in the uk are anry because they cant buy a 100w bulb or eggs by the dozen and send a whole country down the hole. i understand what the eu has done for the people in the eu, yes you probably will have to suck up not being able to buy a 5000 watt vacuum cleaner, but voting to leave was silly, to say the least
Just look on amazon uk and there are 100w bulbs for sale.  I have seen them in the high street shops as well.  There was never a time when we couldn't buy eggs by the dozen.  For some reason, the EU gets blamed for everything.


Have a look at eggs next time you're in the shop. It's now by weight and not by the dozen. It's all the small things that begin to add up that grate on people's conscious and subconscious. It's not really about eggs or vacuum cleaners but the fact that the more control you give them the more they take away.

I don't want a European state with a European Super Army.
I believe in Democracy.
I voted out but come on eggs are sold by the dozen, sometimes 10 sold by size I've NEVER seen them sold by weight

I don't want to make a big deal on this but here you go...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289882/EU-ban-selling-eggs-dozen-Shopkeepers-fury-told-food-weighed-sold-kilo.html

Like I said just small things that take away our identity. I can't remember the last time I saw the word 'dozen' on egg packets? Must be 5 years ago I just see the number of eggs. And how British was that!
« Last Edit: June 26, 2016, 14:47 by Cider Apple »

« Reply #94 on: June 26, 2016, 14:27 »
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apple,  you do know that the uk has the right to veto the build up of an european army. and if your country diesnt want it to happen they just need to say no. you dont have to leave the eu for that

« Reply #95 on: June 26, 2016, 14:31 »
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so people in the uk are anry because they cant buy a 100w bulb or eggs by the dozen and send a whole country down the hole. i understand what the eu has done for the people in the eu, yes you probably will have to suck up not being able to buy a 5000 watt vacuum cleaner, but voting to leave was silly, to say the least
Just look on amazon uk and there are 100w bulbs for sale.  I have seen them in the high street shops as well.  There was never a time when we couldn't buy eggs by the dozen.  For some reason, the EU gets blamed for everything.


Have a look at eggs next time you're in the shop. It's now by weight and not by the dozen. It's all the small things that begin to add up that grate on people's conscious and subconscious. It's not really about eggs or vacuum cleaners but the fact that the more control you give them the more they take away.

I don't want a European state with a European Super Army.
I believe in Democracy.
I voted out but come on eggs are sold by the dozen, sometimes 10 sold by size I've NEVER seen them sold by weight

I don't want to make a big deal on this but here you go...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289882/EU-ban-selling-eggs-dozen-Shopkeepers-fury-told-food-weighed-sold-kilo.html

Like I said just small things that take away our identity. I can't remember the last time I saw dozen on egg packets? Must be 5 years ago. And how British was that!


http://www.bbc.com/news/10461548

its this misinformation about basically everything  got people to vote out

« Reply #96 on: June 26, 2016, 14:51 »
+1
so people in the uk are anry because they cant buy a 100w bulb or eggs by the dozen and send a whole country down the hole. i understand what the eu has done for the people in the eu, yes you probably will have to suck up not being able to buy a 5000 watt vacuum cleaner, but voting to leave was silly, to say the least
Just look on amazon uk and there are 100w bulbs for sale.  I have seen them in the high street shops as well.  There was never a time when we couldn't buy eggs by the dozen.  For some reason, the EU gets blamed for everything.
Yes, I blame the EU for the many cloudy and rainy days this year.
Although I haven't uploaded much lately but I also blame the EU for the drop in sales in microstock.
We should all leave the EU for that.

« Reply #97 on: June 26, 2016, 14:52 »
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so people in the uk are anry because they cant buy a 100w bulb or eggs by the dozen and send a whole country down the hole. i understand what the eu has done for the people in the eu, yes you probably will have to suck up not being able to buy a 5000 watt vacuum cleaner, but voting to leave was silly, to say the least
Just look on amazon uk and there are 100w bulbs for sale.  I have seen them in the high street shops as well.  There was never a time when we couldn't buy eggs by the dozen.  For some reason, the EU gets blamed for everything.


Have a look at eggs next time you're in the shop. It's now by weight and not by the dozen. It's all the small things that begin to add up that grate on people's conscious and subconscious. It's not really about eggs or vacuum cleaners but the fact that the more control you give them the more they take away.

I don't want a European state with a European Super Army.
I believe in Democracy.
I voted out but come on eggs are sold by the dozen, sometimes 10 sold by size I've NEVER seen them sold by weight

I don't want to make a big deal on this but here you go...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289882/EU-ban-selling-eggs-dozen-Shopkeepers-fury-told-food-weighed-sold-kilo.html

Like I said just small things that take away our identity. I can't remember the last time I saw dozen on egg packets? Must be 5 years ago. And how British was that!


http://www.bbc.com/news/10461548

its this misinformation about basically everything  got people to vote out


Maybe the egg debate is a bad example but you can't take away the fact that they tried to impose this!
What next? No coffee before breakfast? No swimming in the sea? Not allowed to breath air?

ShadySue

« Reply #98 on: June 26, 2016, 14:57 »
+4
I don't want to make a big deal on this but here you go...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289882/EU-ban-selling-eggs-dozen-Shopkeepers-fury-told-food-weighed-sold-kilo.html

I can't believe anyone would regard anything the Daily Muddle (also the thieves who used one of my RM files over 20 times more than they reported/paid for it after being caught out many times for same in the past) says as remotely accurate. I was just going out to buy eggs when I read this, so here are the eggs I just bought:

The eggs are sold in sixes and twelves, by small, medium, large, XL sizes, battery, barn or free range. 'Twere ever thus.

ShadySue

« Reply #99 on: June 26, 2016, 14:59 »
+1
What next? No coffee before breakfast? No swimming in the sea? Not allowed to breath air?
Or maybe just like not being able to harvest your own rainwater in parts of the US (misinformation posted immediately previous on this forum).


 

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