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« on: December 19, 2006, 11:00 »
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Is it too good to be true? is anyone using this?

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« Last Edit: December 19, 2006, 11:16 by leaf »


« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2006, 11:31 »
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They look ligit.  Good references - one of the PC mags and the WSJ. 

I guess as long as they dont go belly up, there will be no problems.  if they try to up the price, then you decide whether to go out and get that 10TB Raid5 set up or just continue using them.

i wonder how it works with external drives as I currently have to much stuff for the small drive on my laptop.

« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2006, 11:35 »
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i am currently using a couple external drives from lacie and have been very happy.  I also just bought a new desktop which i think i will stick a few large drives in.

In addition to have all images on drives I also put them on dvds.

However this doesn't help if my house burns down.  I can store the dvd's at a friends house, but old discs sometimes go bad and loose their data.  It would be nice to have an off-site 'hard drive' copy of the images.

« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2006, 11:50 »
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However this doesn't help if my house burns down.  I can store the dvd's at a friends house, but old discs sometimes go bad and loose their data.  It would be nice to have an off-site 'hard drive' copy of the images.

I have a USB hard drive that I store in a media fire safe in my garage.

Other ideas are to store the USB drive in your car, in a bank safe deposit box, or another house (family member or friend).  But storing it offsite makes it hard to update.

« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2006, 11:54 »
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However this doesn't help if my house burns down.  I can store the dvd's at a friends house, but old discs sometimes go bad and loose their data.  It would be nice to have an off-site 'hard drive' copy of the images.

I have a USB hard drive that I store in a media fire safe in my garage.

Other ideas are to store the USB drive in your car, in a bank safe deposit box, or another house (family member or friend).  But storing it offsite makes it hard to update.

unless you keep buying 'small' drives at 100gb or so and just put them offsite when they are full.

« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2006, 12:12 »
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I really can't imagine how they could survive offering unlimited at $5.  I have over 100GB in photos alone, most likely I have close to 300GB of data.  I use an external hard drive at the moment. 

There is one catch that I found in the FAQ.  They throttle your bandwidth to 2-4GB a day.  So backing up 300GB would take about 3.2 years.  So I guess they are out of the question for me.  I'm sticking with a media fireproof safe and an external 500GB hard drive.

Mark

« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2006, 12:30 »
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actually it is unlimited (if you are on the $5.00/month version) but it generally maxes out at 2-4gb per day.  A quote from the site

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I have LOTS of data - how long will it take to back up?
    For a typical system, on a typical broadband line, Mozy backs up data at about 2-4 GB per day - but if left undisturbed on fast connection, you can backup over 9GB in a single day.

    You may experience faster or slower speeds depending on your connection. You may want to check your favorite bandwidth meter test to measure your broadband connection. Here is one from Speakeasy that we like to use. You will be uploading to the Mozy servers when you back up, so pay attention to the "Upload" part of the test results.


 Link to FAQ

i agree it sounds a little daunting backing up several 100 gigs worth of photos but it isn't too late to start now either....

« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2006, 11:53 »
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There is one catch that I found in the FAQ.  They throttle your bandwidth to 2-4GB a day.  So backing up 300GB would take about 3.2 years.  So I guess they are out of the question for me.  I'm sticking with a media fireproof safe and an external 500GB hard drive.

Mark

if you backup 4gb a day it would only take 75 days for 300gb :)  If you left your computer alone you could probably manage 10gb a day with a fast connection

I went and purchased the $5.00 account and have 30gb of recent photos set to upload.  You would think i am being paid by them by the way I am talking, but i just think we should take backing up of things seriously.  People take years of photos and most of them don't even have a single backup.

« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2006, 12:35 »
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I am considering it too.  As some stage, i am going to have to frieght my hard drives from the UK to NZ (my home country) and at that stage, it would be good to have an external backup.

Also means that I might be able to do away with externals and just use the backed up info and my laptop?  Willl have to consider this one further and see how their system works.

« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2006, 12:41 »
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i don't think i would rely on this as my only backup.

i would for sure have a copy on a hard drive somewhere, another copy on a hard drive or disk (kept another place) and then perhaps an online one.

« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2006, 14:23 »
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Price is not a bad so I have to check this out. My current local backup solutions is quite good, but I do not have off-site backups yet. Initial upload would take long time, but incremental backups (e.g. everyday work) is smaller so it won't be a problem. Local phone companies will start offering similar solution here in Finland next year (5euros/month) but I do not know how big the storage capacity is. But thanks for the nice information about this new system.

My current setup:

I have Ubuntu linux (server installation) box with ~1TB disks and samba installed. I use Nero BackitUp to backup my image folders to the network drive everyday (incremental copies) with compression options disabled (this way the Nero copy the files like they are in normal file system). I use http://www.brandonstaggs.com/filecheckmd5.html file check utility to check image folders integrity over time (first I make md5 file from the local computer and then run that file against network drive). This way I can notice errors on network or local drives (e.g. windows can not detect if the controller is causing problems in every case). You can use USB discs also, but I prefer real network computer, since you can build raid controller on the network computer or add external drives to mirror actual backup partition.

I also try to take DVD backups few times on a year, but this process is too time consuming progress. BlueRay discs will be solutions to this...



« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2006, 21:27 »
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I'm using a free service right now that allows up to about 300 photos. When I pass that I'm planning on using http://www.jungledisk.com/. It looks like one of the best prices around for what we do.  :D

« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2006, 17:22 »
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Can you trust these sites for privacy matters?  I mean, what if they use your stuff backed up there?

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2006, 20:07 »
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A quick look at the Mozy site lists the encryption features: 448-bit Blowfish encryption (on their servers) and 128-bit SSL encryption (during file transfers).  I wouldn't have too many concerns about them accessing your data unless it's something really sensitive.

My real concerns would be upload/download times for all that data.  You could save time by compressing stuff.  You could also compress and encrypt the data yourself if you were concerned with the security.

They started installing fiber in my neighborhood, so hopefully bandwidth won't be much an issue for me.  This looks interesting.  Thanks, Leaf, for posting this. 

« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2006, 20:17 »
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I'm using a free service right now that allows up to about 300 photos. When I pass that I'm planning on using http://www.jungledisk.com/. It looks like one of the best prices around for what we do.  :D



I think the jungledisk is a good deal if you don't have a large amount of data.  But if you have 50GB, it costs less than 10 cents per gig at Mozy and it's a flat 15 cents per gig at jungledisk, right?  So anything over 32GB is cheaper at Mozy.  I don't know how the features compare though.


 

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