Author Topic: Why are you anonymous? (Read 29266 times)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #100 on:** August 10, 2011, 13:41 »

Quote from: leaf on August 10, 2011, 13:21

Photodune seems pretty open to conversation and critique
http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/photodune-in-open-beta/

that´s true but in the end will they hear us and perhaps raise the royalties? you guys, top contributors should really push them so they give a better deal

jbarber873 · « **Reply #101 on:** August 10, 2011, 16:04 »

Quote from: Achilles on August 10, 2011, 03:29

People are way more cruel when using the keyboard rather than their voice, but it's even worse when they are allowed to flame other people and remain anonymous for the sake of free speech. One of the worst case scenarios or extreme examples are London's masked hoodies still rioting and looting the city under the false claim of protesting.

If you really think that the rioters are in any way equivalent to posters being anonymous, you need to get some perspective. I like DT, the little swirly colors that give you more money are a great idea. I don't like that you try to get me to put 3 images into one shot, as though the buyers deserve an even better deal. And i detest the "keyword police" who are clueless. Do those opinions hold any more or any less validity based on who i am? Do those opinions constitute a "flame"? Am i only allowed to woo-yay in your world? As for saying "I will continue not to visit this forum until this problem is taken care of" , does that mean you demand that all posters have their real identity linked to their screen name or you won't come back? How arrogant. Don't let the door hit you on the way out....

RapidEye · « **Reply #102 on:** August 10, 2011, 16:18 »

Interesting discussion.

I used to take an active part in the iStock forums, partly because I thought the agency was actually listening to contributors. In the light of recent developments, I've come to doubt that's still so. In any case, an agency's forums are useless for getting a picture of the whole industry, so I've been lurking here at MSG for a while to see which way the wind's blowing.

But it never occurred to me to sign up anonymously. iStock, where I'm exclusive and earn 98% of my livelihood, seems to have no history of penalising contributors for their opinions (other than forum bans) but, since reading here about the Fotolia unpleasantness, it's dawned on me that any agency could turn that way at any time.

Other good points made here: it's true that writing under your own name imposes a degree of self-censorship, and not just because it discourages Tourette-style raving; and putting yourself out in public probably increases plagiarism of your stuff.

So I'll be thinking about this and may well choose to go anonymous. If I do ... bye.

Snufkin · « **Reply #103 on:** August 10, 2011, 16:41 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 10, 2011, 13:41

Quote from: leaf on August 10, 2011, 13:21
Photodune seems pretty open to conversation and critique
http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/photodune-in-open-beta/

that´s true but in the end will they hear us and perhaps raise the royalties? you guys, top contributors should really push them so they give a better deal

If you and other people hadn't submitted their content there, they would eventually offer a better deal.
Doesn't make sense to offer a better deal if people are happy to supply them. Rather prepare for cuts elsewhere.

If the top contributors could negotiate better terms, it doesn't mean that everybody else would get the same.

Snufkin · « **Reply #104 on:** August 10, 2011, 16:44 »

Quote from: leaf on August 10, 2011, 13:21

Photodune seems pretty open to conversation and critique
http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/photodune-in-open-beta/

Well, these guys can hardly ban anyone or retaliate in any way, because many people who have been critical simply don't want to do business with them.

TheSmilingAssassin · « **Reply #105 on:** August 10, 2011, 19:06 »

leaf · « **Reply #106 on:** August 10, 2011, 21:16 »

Quote from: Snufkin on August 10, 2011, 16:44

Quote from: leaf on August 10, 2011, 13:21
Photodune seems pretty open to conversation and critique
http://www.microstockgroup.com/photodune/photodune-in-open-beta/

Well, these guys can hardly ban anyone or retaliate in any way, because many people who have been critical simply don't want to do business with them.

I wasn't referring to banning, I was referring to being open to listening to contributors opinion.

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #107 on:** August 10, 2011, 21:53 »

Why remain anonymous?

For one, everything you write is broadcast for the world to see, permanently. This isn't a closed forum or a direct email to someone. It's reply-all to millions of people. It doesn't take much for your employer, school, or whoever to Google your name and get a glimpse into your life. And whoever happens to have leverage over you may not agree with your opinion could take offense to your thoughts. I was actually almost fired from a job because of my personal website. It was a misunderstanding and I kept my job but it was a pretty grueling experience and big lesson learned. Everything you write is broadcast to the world.

If you're independent you may have less to worry about. A lot of us are better off not giving fuel to someone who's looking to burn us.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #108 on:** August 10, 2011, 22:12 »

so true PW, one of these days will be ano too, not that I have much to lose (loose for lagereek) but I wanna say bad things about agencies

anonymous · « **Reply #109 on:** August 11, 2011, 14:04 »

I cant STAND anonymity!!!!!

lisafx · « **Reply #110 on:** August 11, 2011, 14:22 »

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on August 10, 2011, 21:53

Why remain anonymous?

For one, everything you write is broadcast for the world to see, permanently. This isn't a closed forum or a direct email to someone. It's reply-all to millions of people. It doesn't take much for your employer, school, or whoever to Google your name and get a glimpse into your life. And whoever happens to have leverage over you may not agree with your opinion could take offense to your thoughts. I was actually almost fired from a job because of my personal website. It was a misunderstanding and I kept my job but it was a pretty grueling experience and big lesson learned. Everything you write is broadcast to the world.

If you're independent you may have less to worry about. A lot of us are better off not giving fuel to someone who's looking to burn us.

You mean you aren't the REAL Paulie Walnuts! I am so disappointed!

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #111 on:** August 11, 2011, 16:55 »

Quote from: Achilles on August 10, 2011, 09:48

@pseudonymus CS I meant Customer Support
@Warrenprice - you've been banned for attacking a user after reporting an image for bad keywords, prior to a previous warning for advertising competitor sites. Discouraging users to report spam is obviously not something we agree. Or should we also cope with users threatening people flagging an irrelevant image?

I don't want to hijack this thread, feel free to email me if you need any other clarifications.

I wonder if this will have a negative effect on my chances of being the "Featured Contributor?"

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #112 on:** August 11, 2011, 17:04 »

Quote from: lisafx on August 11, 2011, 14:22

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on August 10, 2011, 21:53
Why remain anonymous?

For one, everything you write is broadcast for the world to see, permanently. This isn't a closed forum or a direct email to someone. It's reply-all to millions of people. It doesn't take much for your employer, school, or whoever to Google your name and get a glimpse into your life. And whoever happens to have leverage over you may not agree with your opinion could take offense to your thoughts. I was actually almost fired from a job because of my personal website. It was a misunderstanding and I kept my job but it was a pretty grueling experience and big lesson learned. Everything you write is broadcast to the world.

If you're independent you may have less to worry about. A lot of us are better off not giving fuel to someone who's looking to burn us.

You mean you aren't the REAL Paulie Walnuts! I am so disappointed!

*, I blew my cover.

madelaide · « **Reply #113 on:** August 11, 2011, 17:06 »

Quote from: anonymous on August 11, 2011, 14:04

I cant STAND anonymity!!!!!

Fear of competition?

Larry · « **Reply #114 on:** August 20, 2011, 09:30 »

Normally a person's login name is not their actual name anyway. A photographer may use a different login name here than on their microstock site for privacy, and it does not really diminish what they have to say. Actually it may let you avoid listening the "company line". I think it is best to judge their message by its contents, rather than what kind of pictures they take, or what they want their stock sites admins to hear. The posturing is really irritating.

helix7 · « **Reply #115 on:** August 20, 2011, 10:34 »

It's funny.. I've been accused of hiding behind a screen name on another forum, even though I open post my website URL in all of my profiles where anyone can find my full name, location, email, and phone number.

I don't really worry about my shared opinions here having any negative impact on me with regard to the agencies. I'm often openly critical of a few, but I try to be respectful in how I voice my criticisms of agencies and so far it's worked for me.

RacePhoto · « **Reply #116 on:** August 20, 2011, 22:02 »

Quote from: Larry on August 20, 2011, 09:30

Normally a person's login name is not their actual name anyway. A photographer may use a different login name here than on their microstock site for privacy, and it does not really diminish what they have to say. Actually it may let you avoid listening the "company line". I think it is best to judge their message by its contents, rather than what kind of pictures they take, or what they want their stock sites admins to hear. The posturing is really irritating.

If they are anonymous we can't see their photos, they may have none? You would take the word of someone about a subject, where you are trying to earn money, without any credentials? We don't know if they are a shill for an agency or someone who just wants to make one agency look bad because they had a bad personal experience. How's that for why people shouldn't hide and should stand behind their messages. I don't mind pseudonyms or catchy names, it's when people are anonymous so they can badger and troll that it gets a little irritating.

All six of me agree with this...

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Author Topic: Why are you anonymous? (Read 29266 times)

luissantos84

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RapidEye

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TheSmilingAssassin

leaf

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luissantos84

anonymous

lisafx

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madelaide

Larry

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