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tab62

« on: July 29, 2013, 16:53 »
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Has anyone heard when Canon is releasing the 47MP? Rumor, a while back, was October of this year.


sc

« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2013, 17:24 »
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We don't need more pixels - just better pixels

CD123

« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2013, 19:37 »
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Seems like you will have to rephrase your question Tom.....   :P

CD123

« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2013, 23:15 »
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2013, 02:55 »
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Might as well start a rumour that they'll soon have a 200mp camera :) 

« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2013, 04:56 »
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if a 24MP raw file is 30MB how much it's gonna be a 47MP one ?

anyway, i see many applications for such a big sensor, for instance shooting in low light with horribly high iso and downsizing the image to 12 or 24MP.


« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2013, 04:59 »
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Might as well start a rumour that they'll soon have a 200mp camera :)

200 mp? I heard 400 mp  ;D

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2013, 07:52 »
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Might as well start a rumour that they'll soon have a 200mp camera :)

200 mp? I heard 400 mp  ;D

Yes, mp: minipixels

Ron

« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2013, 08:02 »
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Might as well start a rumour that they'll soon have a 200mp camera :)

200 mp? I heard 400 mp  ;D

Yes, mp: minipixels

Chuckles  ;D

Ron

« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2013, 08:06 »
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To shoot tack sharp at 100% with 47mp you need a cement truck for tripod. I cant see myself ever buying a camera with more than 18 or 24mp. I am in the market for a 6D at 20mp, that should cover me for a few years.

« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2013, 08:36 »
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My Sony RX100 has good IQ with 20mp on a sensor that must be at least 4x smaller than full frame.  So I don't see much problem with 80mp on a full frame sensor in theory.  The problem for me would be the price of the camera and lenses that would be needed to get good IQ.

tab62

« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2013, 08:57 »
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Okay, I will get the 46mp cell phone instead  :(



Ron

« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2013, 09:33 »
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Okay, I will get the 46mp cell phone instead  :(
Do you know when the 46mp cell phone will be released?

« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2013, 09:46 »
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We don't need more pixels - just better pixels

This is exactly right. Give me better DR, less noise at high ISO, etc.  The MP race should transition into the better pixel race.

« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2013, 15:02 »
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To shoot tack sharp at 100% with 47mp you need a cement truck for tripod. I cant see myself ever buying a camera with more than 18 or 24mp. I am in the market for a 6D at 20mp, that should cover me for a few years.

in my experience with a good tripod there's no problem, the big issue is shooting handheld especially moving subjects, these new sensor are unforgiving to shakes and slow shutter speeds.

i tried a D800 recently and it takes nothing to produce minimal shakes that are only visible at 100%.
but if you downsize to 24MP it's completely invisible and the image looks fantastic.

Hasselblad has a 60MP sensor but it's medium format, 72mm, it's completely a different ballgame.


« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2013, 15:20 »
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We don't need more pixels - just better pixels

This is exactly right. Give me better DR, less noise at high ISO, etc.  The MP race should transition into the better pixel race.

bigger resolution is the only answer to noise as it allows for denoising + downsizing and you have a very good output which is still in high-res and doesnt need any sharpening too so the best of both worlds.









« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2013, 16:02 »
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in my experience with a good tripod there's no problem, the big issue is shooting handheld especially moving subjects, these new sensor are unforgiving to shakes and slow shutter speeds

True if you look at 100% crops. But what microstock site is it worth uploading 47MP to? Or even 20+ MP? And you certainly don't need that for your family snaps.

Any resolution like that would only need to be sharp for the most extreme enlargements.

Or, in other words, the MP race is no longer of the slightest significance to microstock. In fact, I gather that uploading more than 12MP at iS actually eliminates you from the high-price/commission rate TIFF upsizing facility they offer. Not sure if that's right or not.

tab62

« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2013, 16:18 »
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The sad part about Canon dragging is Arse on the higher end camera is that the Nikon D800 has been out for a while! I bet Nikon has captured even more market share do to Canon just not keeping up with them...

« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2013, 16:20 »
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2013, 22:15 »
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in my experience with a good tripod there's no problem, the big issue is shooting handheld especially moving subjects, these new sensor are unforgiving to shakes and slow shutter speeds

True if you look at 100% crops. But what microstock site is it worth uploading 47MP to? Or even 20+ MP? And you certainly don't need that for your family snaps.

Any resolution like that would only need to be sharp for the most extreme enlargements.

Or, in other words, the MP race is no longer of the slightest significance to microstock. In fact, I gather that uploading more than 12MP at iS actually eliminates you from the high-price/commission rate TIFF upsizing facility they offer. Not sure if that's right or not.

as a plus, with a 48MP sensor you could shoot handheld with a fast shutter speed by night in ISO 25600, downsize to 6 o 10MP and have a decent image (but horrible colors) that with some luck could pass QC.

yeah, no idea who needs 48MP on micros or even macros if that matters but it's a non issue, the entry level camera are already 24MP, the nikon D5200 for instance and it costs just 650$ + kit lens .. in 2-3 yrs the entry level could be 36MP as well.


« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2013, 22:24 »
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The sad part about Canon dragging is Arse on the higher end camera is that the Nikon D800 has been out for a while! I bet Nikon has captured even more market share do to Canon just not keeping up with them...

fair game.
canon is desperately sponsoring a score of pro photographers to use canon gear and tell everybody they're canon enthusiasts .. it's quite a mafia in that market.

the big mistake nikon did was sticking for so long with 12MP sensors while canon was selling the 5DmkII like hotcakes.

and now they're shooting themselves in the foot again delaying the launch of the replacement for the D300s.

they've also been very clear stating they're making a lot more money with compact cameras now than with DSLRs and this is not a promising thing.

the only company innovating and fighting hard at the moment is Sigma, look at their new 18-35 F1.8 zoom and there are rumours about an upcoming 24-70 F2 ! such a lens would seriously kick nikon's butt and who's going to stop sigma from launching a 70-200 F2 too ?

nikon is getting too complacent on lenses and they're no more value for money as in the past, they're also cr-ap plastic and feeling horribly cheap compared to the old AI lenses built like a tank.





 

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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2013, 06:41 »
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<snip>yeah, no idea who needs 48MP on micros or even macros if that matters but it's a non issue

I'm working a lot more on selling prints and more MP = bigger print = more money.

As far as Canon vs Nikon goes it's a game of leapfrog. Every couple years each launches the big new thing. So I invested in both Canon and Nikon lenses. If a new body comes out from Canon or Nikon I can decide if I want it. Still have my 5DMII and now have a D800. Both great cameras.


 

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