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Agency Based Discussion => Panthermedia.net => Topic started by: cardmaverick on July 12, 2009, 23:38
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I'm interested in possibly contributing to the Panther Media collection, but I wanna know what the back end of the site is like. When it comes to smaller agencies, easy, fast, hassle free uploading of a big portfolio is a must. How does PM compare to say, Most Photos, quite possibly the fastest, easiest site to upload to, ever! LOL (0 sales, but its so fast, can't hurt....).
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personally it's one of the worst,
categories, drop downs for number of people, seperate most important 8 keywords, etc. Similar to alamy if you contribute there. I takes me roughly the same time to go through an image as does for one on istock.
they annouced a few weeks back that there was going to be big changes within a couple of weeks. I'm waiting to see what they bring. other than that I have a pile I uploaded and when I'm really bored I click a few through.
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Hello,
@cardmaverick:
We are going to introduce a new upload system soon these coming weeks. More information can be found here:
http://bit.ly/jRb4g (http://bit.ly/jRb4g)
Andy
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So this means that we will see the new upload system in a few days?
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Tiero, soon, yes!
Andy
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I would wait until we see update. I have avoided them because its so painful to upload.
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How will the new upload system be? Do you plan to release any API?
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Hey hlth,
I will contact you separately. ;D
Nice rest weekend,
Andy
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The painful upload is what keeps me from going all out and uploading my collection. From the small amount of images I've gotten online there, sales are decent.
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You can upload via ftp which is great, but the submission process could be faster. Sales are pretty regular for me and the min payout is low (around $30-40 USD) so its worth it for me.
http://www.panthermedia.net/?aff=125295 (http://www.panthermedia.net/?aff=125295)
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The upload system looks like to me as it is still the same. Any updates on when the new system will come?
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no change that I can see !! 2 to 4 weeks they said ! lol that was 2 months ago !!
maybe they've given up trying ! ;) S
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The painful upload is what keeps me from going all out and uploading my collection. From the small amount of images I've gotten online there, sales are decent.
Could you share what makes it "painful"?
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look at YAY Micro and compare. YAY Micro is getting it right for making the upload process as user friendly as possible. With other words
fast manual upload
no category selection
reading out iptc data
no keyword splitting
I think this would be the main things that are missing at panthermedia.
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I would love to put my portfolio up on their site, but till something is improved, I'm hesitant to move. Time is money, and frankly, I don't even know if they are worth the time to upload to. I'm on several low/no earning sites, but I was also able to upload over a 1,000 shots in one or two days with ease, which reduced the size of the gamble. If they want to grow, they gotta stream line their submission system, otherwise photographers are just plain old hesitant to indirectly invest money into getting their ports submitted.
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Any news about the new uploading system?
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@oboy and tiero:
Any updates on when the new system will come?
It is around the corner, in the final testing phase.
@Stu:
maybe they've given up trying
Dream on ... ;D
@oboy:
reading out iptc data
This is already implemented in the current version when using FTP upload.
@hlth
We would appreciate it if you would promote your product and services in a separate forum, but not instantly here on the PantherMedia forum. Thanks for your cooperation and understanding.
Andy
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@oboy and tiero:
Any updates on when the new system will come?
It is around the corner, in the final testing phase.
Great news - can't wait to try it out.
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@oboy and tiero:
Any updates on when the new system will come?
It is around the corner, in the final testing phase.
Great news - can't wait to try it out.
ditto, looking forward to seeing it live
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Any updates on the uploading procedures?
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Any updates on the uploading procedures?
We need a big "YES" it's ready! :D
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Hello cardmaverick and tiero:
We need a big "YES" it's ready!
You all will receive an even bigger "YES" when it is ready soon.
Andy
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given up trying here !! dozen images stuck in submissions ! it says I can only upload 2 per day, but then takes me round in circles twice and says 'NO MORE TODAY' !! which means I get NONE moved up !
Very helpful !! ;-)
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Like the others I think the site has potential but the back is terrrible, I am looking foward to the changes. I also hope the update the sites overall look.
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Any news about the new uploading system?
I Hate to ask again but...
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Hey tiero,
besides the final testing of the new upload system - which takes time - we currently have a lot of things going on (http://bit.ly/2EOnQb, (http://bit.ly/2EOnQb,) etc.) and we´ll be happy to present the new upload tool soon as it is also in our interest to get ahead with this.
This for the moment & I´ll keep you posted,
Andy
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Keep us posted. I am eager to upload more images but am holding off due to the upload procedure.
Also, if you need testers, let me know :)
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Hey tiero,
besides the final testing of the new upload system - which takes time - we currently have a lot of things going on ([url]http://bit.ly/2EOnQb,[/url] ([url]http://bit.ly/2EOnQb,[/url]) etc.) and we´ll be happy to present the new upload tool soon as it is also in our interest to get ahead with this.
This for the moment & I´ll keep you posted,
Andy
Yep I'm, also interested in uploading my portfolio there, but its only really worthwhile time wise if its a painless process...
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On the other hand, having a bit more of a tedious upload process helps ensure a contributor will upload only their better work and not spam an agency with hundreds of other images because the upload process was so quick and easy.
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On the other hand, having a bit more of a tedious upload process helps ensure a contributor will upload only their better work and not spam an agency with hundreds of other images because the upload process was so quick and easy.
well that could be true to some extent but people who are already selling with 10 agencies that are providing a decent income simply aren't going to spend the time clicking several buttons on every image to upload their portfolio.
If I am going to add a new site I have to be able to add 100 images within a few minutes. Yaymicro, crestock, canstock, mostphotos all have very easy upload processes that are sufficiently easy.
I sent a hard drive to PantherMedia a while ago and got my images online that way.
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On the other hand, having a bit more of a tedious upload process helps ensure a contributor will upload only their better work and not spam an agency with hundreds of other images because the upload process was so quick and easy.
I dont think this would be a good strategy for stock sites. All they would really accomplish is aggravating everyone with a tedious submission process. They would be better off restricting uploads based on acceptance ratio if they were worried about being overwhelmed with bad photos.
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Not only uploading is tedious, it also takes very long time to get images reviewed. It is probably the slowest agency for me. The same image has been sold multiple times in other sites while still pending (or panting) with Panther.
;D
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@leaf / holgs:
as you mention that you want to upload more, you have noticed there recent pricing changes?
Introduction of subs model that allows e.g. 750 maximum size downloads within one month (no daily limit, a monthly limit!) for a full 199€?
And their price reduction for credits (they themselves advertise it as 85% price reduction)?
An XL (A4 print size) file goes for 12 Credits, 25 Credits cost 33,90€ while an "regular" (on Invoice) XL costs 49,90€.
And this (soon to be irrelevant - just buy credits and you get more than twice as much files) price of 49,90€ is still their official threshold to determine your commission (if you sell same size somewhere else for less, you'll get 30% instead of 50%). This distinction was established about two years ago to fight the evil Micro-Agencies... But now they keep it while trying to pull a price war with the cheapest subs program around... Totally ridiculous... >:(
Just so you know before you upload more...
Edit: forgot to add, the only good thing about it is, you can disable the subs program...
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Introduction of subs model that allows e.g. 750 maximum size downloads within one month (no daily limit, a monthly limit!) for a full 199€?
750 / 199 x 0.3(%) = 8 eurocent per image? No thanks.
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Introduction of subs model that allows e.g. 750 maximum size downloads within one month (no daily limit, a monthly limit!) for a full 199€?
750 / 199 x 0.3(%) = 8 eurocent per image? No thanks.
That is the reason why they are now so desperately seeking new contributors. Because of the ridiculous price reduction (it started already many months ago but the last step was the most ridiculous one) many of their former contributors leaving/left their site. A few years ago I really liked PM but in the current state it is really the best to avoid this place, the last thing this market needs is a new downward spiral of prices >:(
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Introduction of subs model that allows e.g. 750 maximum size downloads within one month (no daily limit, a monthly limit!) for a full 199€?
750 / 199 x 0.3(%) = 8 eurocent per image? No thanks.
actually I think everyone gets 50% on subscription sales. so it would be 199 images / 750 Euro * 50% = .13 eurocents :) ... but you are assuming all subscriptions are filled all the time, which is not the case
I agree that their 30% vs 50% scheme is starting to look a little dated. I think they should put that to rest and give everyone an equal %.
That said, doing some comparisons
Panther
12 month package
9000 total images (750 images/month * 12months)
3,039.52 USD (169 Euro/month * 12 months * (1 EUR = 1.49878 USD))
Shutterstock
12 month package
9125 total images (25 images/day * 365 days)
3123 USD (I can just see the NOK package price. Can someone tell me the USD price?)
Panther is selling their images at $0.34/image
Shutterstock is selling their images at $0.34/image
The photographer gets 50% of the Panther sale
An established photographer gets $0.38/sale on Shutterstock
To tell you the truth I really think that the Panther subscription is on par with Shutterstock and should give us a higher return than we are seeing on Shutterstock. Nobody knows what % Shutterstock is giving us, but I am guessing it is around 20-35% since on extended licenses we are getting somewhere between 23%-35% assuming the buyers uses up their entire subscription. If Shutterstock can stand to price their images at $0.34 for the cheapest package and still give the photographer $0.38 we can guess they are taking in around $1.25/image - and giving us 30% of that which is $0.38. With Panther if their users download a similar number of images we can expect $0.63 / download.
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If Shutterstock can stand to price their images at $0.34 for the cheapest package and still give the photographer $0.38 we can guess they are taking in around $1.25/image - and giving us 30% of that which is $0.38. With Panther if their users download a similar number of images we can expect $0.63 / download.
There is one big and important difference:
The Shutterstock customers have to download daily to use up their quota. Every day they don't download (e.g. weekends) reduces the number of pics they can get.
At Panther there is no daily download limit. Customers can download the whole 750 monthly quota on one day - or spread it over the month as they like. My expectation would be that there will be more downloads per sold plan in that model.
The payout that currently has been discussed in the Panther forum is around 0.32€ to 0.34€ per subscription download (that is from people who had their first sub downloads payed).
Although that does not look too bad compared with other subs plans, it (currently?) is nowhere near the volumes of the other players. Combined with their (already mentioned) ridiculous commission policy I am currently not willing to join that subs plan.
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We are going to introduce a new upload system soon these coming weeks. More information can be found here:
Since "these coming weeks" now drag on for quite a while :D Are there any news regarding the new upload system?
On a side note: When are the contributor benefits for subscription downloads calculated? I'm pretty sure, it should have been at the end of the month in which the sale occurred. My downloads from October and November still say: "will be calculated at the end of the next month..." - at the end of which month will this happen?
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@Ploink:
any news regarding the new upload system?
Christmas is close, and so is the new upload tool - take a look at our next newsletter this week.
When are the contributor benefits for subscription downloads calculated?
Full explanation here: http://bit.ly/5gGCOs, (http://bit.ly/5gGCOs,) http://bit.ly/4qfW3n (http://bit.ly/4qfW3n) or here http://bit.ly/4nqHHo. (http://bit.ly/4nqHHo.)
In short: If a customer - with a simple one-month subscription bought in mid-October - acquires an image in mid-October, we know all details of his particular subscription shortly after mid-November, i.e. downloaded images etc. Thus we calculate the value of each download at the end of that (the next) month, and you get your money at the beginning of the next month, in this case early December.
If you can´t wait to see the new upload tool, here´s a nice post for the time being from Tyler, on subs: http://bit.ly/6iRNy8. (http://bit.ly/6iRNy8.) ;)
Andy
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I am looking forward to the new system.
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Christmas is close, and so is the new upload tool - take a look at our next newsletter this week.
Thanks for getting back to me :)
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In short: If a customer - with a simple one-month subscription bought in mid-October - acquires an image in mid-October, we know all details of his particular subscription shortly after mid-November, i.e. downloaded images etc. Thus we calculate the value of each download at the end of that (the next) month, and you get your money at the beginning of the next month, in this case early December.
Early December is gone... It's almost mid December now, but my October sub downloads are still not calculated...
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Early December is gone... It's almost mid December now, but my October sub downloads are still not calculated...
Ok, I complained too early... I received the payment for the October sub downloads. €0,29 each. Fotolia pays more....
Time to remove that silly 30% / 50% thing...
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I am looking forward to the new system.
Second that ;D
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Time to remove that silly 30% / 50% thing...
I'll second that!!!
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Christmas is close, and so is the new upload tool - take a look at our next newsletter this week.
Did I miss something?
There was news last week?
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I just started looking at this site again and am curios about something regarding the new back end.
July 14
We are going to introduce a new upload system soon these coming weeks.
July 17 in answer to will it be ready in a few days/
Tiero, soon, yes!
August 10
It is around the corner, in the final testing phase.
Sept 18
You all will receive an even bigger "YES" when it is ready soon.
Oct 23
besides the final testing of the new upload system - which takes time - we currently have a lot of things going on (http://bit.ly/2EOnQb, (http://bit.ly/2EOnQb,) etc.) and we´ll be happy to present the new upload tool soon as it is also in our interest to get ahead with this.
Dec 08
Christmas is close, and so is the new upload tool
Is it possible to get a straight answer? It was a few weeks and then a few days in July
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I just started looking at this site again and am curios about something regarding the new back end.
July 14
We are going to introduce a new upload system soon these coming weeks.
July 17 in answer to will it be ready in a few days/
Tiero, soon, yes!
August 10
It is around the corner, in the final testing phase.
Sept 18
You all will receive an even bigger "YES" when it is ready soon.
Oct 23
besides the final testing of the new upload system - which takes time - we currently have a lot of things going on ([url]http://bit.ly/2EOnQb,[/url] ([url]http://bit.ly/2EOnQb,[/url]) etc.) and we´ll be happy to present the new upload tool soon as it is also in our interest to get ahead with this.
Dec 08
Christmas is close, and so is the new upload tool
Is it possible to get a straight answer? It was a few weeks and then a few days in July
I know. What's the deal?
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I see that some of my photos are on PM from a 3rd party site. The third party site is one of the easiest I upload to. I only get 50% of the commission they make but at least my photos go on PM without having to go through the time consuming process and I think they sell on other sites too. I am not going to reveal the site but I am sure most people here can guess.
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Hello to all,
I know that some here were not very amused with the delay in launching the new upload tool. So, yes, there had been delays, and we apologize for that.
We have launched the new upload tool with new functions (batch upload, new filters, search function, etc.) for selected photographers yesterday (as Tyler can confirm who is invited, and some other regular readers). This was meant when writing "Christmas is close". Depending on the feedback of these testers the upload tool will then be available to all.
Have a great holiday time,
Andy
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Will it be released to the rest of this any time this year? Or next?
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Will it be released to the rest of this any time this year? Or next?
The latest news is from this PM-customer interface-thread and tells us this:
Ok, so I´m the guy to take the heat ... the upload tool, already tested by many photographers, has been reschedulded to a later date.
Sorry for this, and we will keep you posted, of course. ;)
So holding one's breath might not be the best idea ;D
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Will it be released to the rest of this any time this year? Or next?
I hope soon but...we already know what does it mean "soon" for Panthermedia...
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Quote : "Christmas is close"
Not any more it's not ! ;)
Maybe he meant NEXT Christmas !? ;) ;D
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I'm uploading on PM right now...more than 80 images...long and hard work. Sometime I would like to stop for a while and wait the new upload system.
But i don't have a clue about the release date, so I'm afraid to be stuck for long time and I prefer keep uploading.
Maybe I've to be more brave and stop.
My trust in PM is going down and I feel sorry for this.
PLEASE give us a real answer, have we to wait for days,weeks or years?
Thanks.
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I've uploaded 20 or so and pushed them through, but NO reviewing !! for months !? just stuck there ! >:(
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I'm uploading on PM right now...more than 80 images...long and hard work.
I'm not prepared to do that any more. If they can't keep promises about a new upload system, how can they keep promises about marketing?
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When they do get round to reviewing files in the backlog, you may find that they deal with all the approvals first and then put all the rejections in last, giving you a severely distorted "approvals record" because they only count the last hundred. The result of this is that they restrict you to a ridiculously low upload allowance and cut off your FTP access.
I just gave up on them because of this stupid behaviour. They don't sell enough to be worth making a special effort for.
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It has been 10 months since the news about the new uploading system came out ...... and if I read right it was 2-4 weeks :) it will be 52 weeks I think when it is launched, I'm really looking forward to seeing it because my images keep getting piled up as there is no way to upload fast to the site :(
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Hi everybody,
I do understand your resentment re the upload system. Let me give you a brief status report:
The system has been tested (beta) in January. It was long time postponed due to important changes for our international backend (e.g. Poland). We have taken the very valuable feedback of our beta-testers and have modified the system again in February. It is now completed. However, the new system (and also the our new products and highly increasing customer traffic) produce are quite heavy load onto our system. This is why we have ordered a couple of new servers. They are currently integrated in our platform and tested. I feel extremely sorry for the long delay, but we want to start with a bug-free and fast system.
By the way, we have raised the rejection rate for upload-limits to 80%, meaning that your upload is no longer restrcited as long as we accept 2 of 10 images.
We are highly looking forward to your new uploads and hope to deliver a intuitive, fast and useful new upload system.
I will come back with news asap. Once we have put the new system live, we will send out a newsletter to everybody, and publish it via twitter and facebook.
Keep up the good work,
Robert
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thanks for the update Robert
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thanks for the update Robert
Yes, thanks indeed, for the detailed information on what is going on :)
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OK so I just went and looked at what's left of my account, one photo, which has one view in over a year. The removed photos had the same dismal exposure. Probably not the right material or place for it. Editorial took a month or more to get reviewed and I was asked for releases for that? Property releases for Editorial?
Looking at the photographer FAQ I see this:
How many images may I upload? ID28
Your upload to the stock agency is generally not restricted. If your rejection rate is higher than 30%, we need to restrict your upload to 2 images per day. Upload to the photocommunity is restricted to
- 1 image/day (test member)
- 2 images/day (standard member)
- 3 images/day (premium member)
Somehow I can't figure that out vs the 80% in the message above? Someone needs to change the FAQ to whatever it really is.
You charged me a fee to open my account and charged a higher amount than what you said you would charge.
Good luck Panther.
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Hmmm.... RacePhoto what are you talking about? Are you stopping with PantherMedia? What did they charged? For what? I thought only Getty Images charges ;-)
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They charge a measly couple of cents (less than a buck for me) to open up a paypal account for some weird reason. It's absolutely no big deal.
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What about people who cant use paypal , is there a solution on that site ?
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Hmmm.... RacePhoto what are you talking about? Are you stopping with PantherMedia? What did they charged? For what? I thought only Getty Images charges ;-)
See below they charge something like 54 cents which instead came through as a higher amount. Just silly that they charge at all to open an account so they can pay us. Yes, it's a minor point, but so is the FAQ with wrong information, months for reviews, asking for a release for editorial shots, or an announced upgrade in July that takes until March. ;D Go ahead write and ask a question, and then in two or three weeks, if you are lucky, you might get a response.
Did I mention that I've decided that what I'm trying to sell is in the wrong market, which takes no reading between the lines. It's not their fault, it's my subjects and materials. When some files are up for a year and have 0 or 1 view, it's apparent, it's not what the buyers are looking for. That's not the fault of Panther.
I have a 4,47 commission and I'm trying to figure out how to spend it and close out. I had already deleted the file and then I got a credit for the sale. Wait, deleted file sold? That's mysterious? Everything on Panther seems to be in some sort of time warp.
Whatever, they appear to be trying to expand and improve and maybe Panther will make it as one of the top group some day? I hope they do well and wish everyone who sends them photos, the best. But mine won't be there for the simple facts. No views, no sales!
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They charge a measly couple of cents (less than a buck for me) to open up a paypal account for some weird reason.
Do you have to pay upfront, or is that deducted from your first payment?
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You pay up front to open a paypal payment channel with them. I'm actually starting to like Panther now that I have quite a few things up.
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You pay up front to open a paypal payment channel with them. I'm actually starting to like Panther now that I have quite a few things up.
Is that after you've made a sale ?? They've never charged me anything !!? But no sales so far and I have a Paypal a/c already !
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You pay up front to open a paypal payment channel with them.
No way. I never pay upfront for "storage". They won't even get my Paypal before I would be close to payout. That's ridiculous.
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There are other ways to be paid. I really don't see what the big deal is though, its literally just a few cents and your done, one sale covers your costs easily. This isn't for storage, its for paypal only.
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I really don't see what the big deal is though, its literally just a few cents and your done
If it isn't a big deal, why do they do it then? :o I never gave my Paypal on any site till I'm close to payout. And of what I read here, not many reach that payout on PM. I have a merchant Paypal account and there are no costs involved sending money to it. If ever. If it's "just a few cents", well then it's not worth mentioning for them too. It sounds like scam: attract many contributors that never will reach payout and keep 50 c from each of them. Too much fuzz about nothing. I don't pay upfront to any site with such deplorable commissions as 30%. They can deduct the "few cents" from their 70% share. SS asked me nothing upfront, and neither did DT, IS, 123RF, FT, etc...
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There are other ways to be paid. I really don't see what the big deal is though, its literally just a few cents and your done, one sale covers your costs easily. This isn't for storage, its for paypal only.
As I said ! If u open your own Paypal a/c, this shouldn't happen !! Anyone listening !? ???
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There are other ways to be paid. I really don't see what the big deal is though, its literally just a few cents and your done, one sale covers your costs easily. This isn't for storage, its for paypal only.
As I said ! If u open your own Paypal a/c, this shouldn't happen !! Anyone listening !? ???
No they don't open a PayPal account, they charge to register your existing PayPal account on Panther. Never made any sense to have a fee for opening a Panther account. Yes, it's 52 cents or something minimal. No big deal, just one of the oddball things they do. It's not for storage or anything else, it's for the privilege to upload photos to them and maybe get paid. :D
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Sorry, but I don't think that is fair... No matter what they charge if they don't pay 50% or more...
I know one very good place which don't charge you and they even pay you 60%... It starts on "A" and has 5 letters name ;-)
I will stick to them for now...
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There are other ways to be paid. I really don't see what the big deal is though, its literally just a few cents and your done, one sale covers your costs easily. This isn't for storage, its for paypal only.
As I said ! If u open your own Paypal a/c, this shouldn't happen !! Anyone listening !? ???
No they don't open a PayPal account, they charge to register your existing PayPal account on Panther. Never made any sense to have a fee for opening a Panther account. Yes, it's 52 cents or something minimal. No big deal, just one of the oddball things they do. It's not for storage or anything else, it's for the privilege to upload photos to them and maybe get paid. :D
OK Race, understood ! but I don't remember being charged when I opened MY a/c last year !? ???
Maybe it's my age !?? ;)
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Maybe it's my age !?? ;)
Yeah, it's probably waived for the elderly - even supermarket do those kind of offers at times
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No they don't open a PayPal account, they charge to register your existing PayPal account on Panther.
Why can't they just pay in Euro by normalbank account to another Euro country? There are no costs involved, certainly not between Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, France. Why they insist on making Paypal rich by a useless commissions-loaded detour for Euro countries? :o
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Why can't they just pay in Euro by normalbank account to another Euro country?
Yes they can do that:
# If your bank account is outside Germany, please enter your IBAN and BIC (mandatory). Otherwise, please leave them empty.
# There is a charge for transfers outside the EU. The fees are charged to the photographer and will be deducted from their remuneration. If you do not wish to pay these fees, please use PayPal or Firstgate Click&Buy instead.
# We reserve the right to charge a fee of EUR 10 for problems caused by incorrect account details. Please check your account details carefully
Also, if you prefer PayPal you don't have to give it to Panthermedia at the time of your account registration, you can indeed do it later.
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# If your bank account is outside Germany, please enter your IBAN and BIC (mandatory). ...
Also, if you prefer PayPal you don't have to give it to Panthermedia at the time of your account registration, you can indeed do it later.
Thanks. That solves it all. Somebody said here you had to pay upfront for Paypal. I use my IBAN a lot.
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Hi everybody,
there seem to be some misunderstandings. Let me help top clear all issues:
Regarding the registration, there is following message on registration:
"If you wish to offer images in our stock agency, you need a free account with one of our payment partners, PayPal or Firstgate. You need this account for several reasons: 1)we transfer your remuneration from licence sales to this account, and 2)to verify your registration data (for legal and security reasons) The set-up fee for registration with PayPal is 0.35 euros (=35 cents ). If you register with Firstgate, the set-up is for free. " Please note that it is very important for us to verify every contributor. We have never had any legal problems with stolen or illegal images, and we want to continue with that quality of service to our customers.
Regarding the FAQs: Thanks for the hint. I have changed it already.
Regarding the cancellation and removal policy:
Once a contributor cancels the contract with PantherMedia, there is a 6-month cancellation period. Within this period, we still payout photographers, since open invoices will be paid by customers and we transfer the remuneration still after the cancellation. Within this 6 month period, we are removing the images from all partner sites. Usually, the removals happen every 3 months, so it should be faster than that. If you still see your images on partner sites, please contact us and we will check with the partner.
Regarding releases for editorial shots:
Sending images as editorial is not free from any obligation. If you shoot images from e.g. inside a historic building, you may not publish it without a PR as editorial, neither with iphones or the like. We are the last legal filter before the contributors get into trouble, and we take that very seriously.
Regarding sales after deletion: As mentioned above, many customers pay via invoice. The remuneration is transferred, once we receive the payment. Hence, it is possible that we well an image, you delete it, and 2 weeks later the customer pays. That is why you get a sale after you have deleted the image.
I hope I have cleared many of the problems.
Best regards,
Robert
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The set-up fee for registration with PayPal is 0.35 euros (=35 cents ).
It's still not really clear from that whether it's YOU or PAYPAL that charges the 35cents !!??
If it's you, then why ? the other agencies don't !!
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Back to the original question: "Panther Media Upload / Contributor Back End" - Any updates, please?
Panthermedia is not terribly bad regarding sales, yet it's not worth the time the actual upload process required. So the new back end is crucial for us photographers to decide whether PM is a nice addition or forget about it
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IMO, the site is not worth uploading too, as a matter of fact just requested my account closed and images deleted yesterday...It seems that the Panther Media Upload / Contributor Back End has fade away into oblivion...not enough sales to make the painful uploading process justified... :(
Personally, I don't see a very bright future for PM as is...
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IMO, the site is not worth uploading too, as a matter of fact just requested my account closed and images deleted yesterday...It seems that the Panther Media Upload / Contributor Back End has fade away into oblivion...not enough sales to make the painful uploading process justified... :(
Personally, I don't see a very bright future for PM as is...
Oh why so hostile and impatient? They announced the new system June 16th 2009 and in only 18 days it will be a full year of waiting for the promises. If you write to support, expect two to three weeks wait for an answer, sometimes not answering the question you asked. Confusing navigation with far too many options that don't lead to anything useful. No views, no sales... aren't we supposed to be happy about this? ::)
[sarcastic mode off]
For at least a year, I had higher hopes and the site looked like it had potential. Now they have fallen into the rest of the pack with unfulfilled promises, buggy system issues, insanely slow and inconsistent reviews.
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IMO, the site is not worth uploading too, as a matter of fact just requested my account closed and images deleted yesterday...It seems that the Panther Media Upload / Contributor Back End has fade away into oblivion...not enough sales to make the painful uploading process justified... :(
Personally, I don't see a very bright future for PM as is...
Oh why so hostile and impatient? They announced the new system June 16th 2009 and in only 18 days it will be a full year of waiting for the promises. If you write to support, expect two to three weeks wait for an answer, sometimes not answering the question you asked. Confusing navigation with far too many options that don't lead to anything useful. No views, no sales... aren't we supposed to be happy about this? ::)
[sarcastic mode off]
For at least a year, I had higher hopes and the site looked like it had potential. Now they have fallen into the rest of the pack with unfulfilled promises, buggy system issues, insanely slow and inconsistent reviews.
...but consistent sales. At least in my experience.
Best,
Diego
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...but consistent sales. At least in my experience.
Best,
Diego
that's the point! I usually have 2 or 3 sales a month at panthermedia - some at decent prices - with only about 50 images online due to their terrible upload method
while on other sites (cutcaster / yaymicro / mostphotos / featurepics) I usually have 0 (zero) sales a month with thousands of pictures online
so there is hope - if they ever decide to take some action instead of waiting indefinitely
although it may well happen that sales disappear once they simplify their upload method and we upload our entire portfolios
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...but consistent sales. At least in my experience.
Best,
Diego
that's the point! I usually have 2 or 3 sales a month at panthermedia - some at decent prices - with only about 50 images online due to their terrible upload method
while on other sites (cutcaster / yaymicro / mostphotos / featurepics) I usually have 0 (zero) sales a month with thousands of pictures online
so there is hope - if they ever decide to take some action instead of waiting indefinitely
although it may well happen that sales disappear once they simplify their upload method and we upload our entire portfolios
BINGO!!!
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...but consistent sales. At least in my experience.
Best,
Diego
Good high commissions when there are sales, or at least there used to be. Different market, they seem motivated to keep adjusting to meet the demands of buyers, growth, and increasing their position. It's very hopeful and may still grow. Hope and promises won't pay the rent.
Just not a good match for me or my material. That and the minor aggravations sent me away. I think most people with a more professional Micro attitude and better materials will do better and find Panther brings in returns and will eventually be a good consistent performer with fair returns. That is if they ever come through with their year old promises.
There are two sides to this, some very positive, some incomprehensible.
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Omg...still nothing new from Panthermedia? ???
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I check the website, and if you try to register as photographer, there is 4 plan? and you need to pay 0.35cents EURO? can it be deducted from sale? and which plan a photographer should choose?
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I check the website, and if you try to register as photographer, there is 4 plan? and you need to pay 0.35cents EURO? can it be deducted from sale? and which plan a photographer should choose?
IMO choose the plan that keeps you away from wasting your time uploading there ;)
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i haven't logged in to my panther media account for a very loooong time. i got 13 pics accepted about 2 years ago but their upload procedure annoyed me.
now, surprisingly i've got euro 11.97 on my account which is quite ok with only 13 pics :) so i considered uploading again as i'd have approx. 800 pics ready.
unfortunately panther media's upload is still way too complicated. i can't spend 2-3 minutes on every single picture, don't they understand that? why would i want to waste 3 or 4 full days in order to make 5-10 euros a month ???
very sad :'( but i'll login and check again in a few month. maybe the panthers will wake up one day...
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very sad :'( but i'll login and check again in a few month. maybe the panthers will wake up one day...
those panthers have been hibernating it seems and are stuck in a long winter.
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I hear they are getting veee...e..r..rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyy close to getting the new upload back end going. I have heard that before, but this time is seems like it is really going to happen.
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I hear they are getting veee...e..r..rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyy close to getting the new upload back end going. I have heard that before, but this time is seems like it is really going to happen.
Yes, maybe for the first anniversary of their announcement ;D ;D ;D
Hello,
@cardmaverick:
We are going to introduce a new upload system soon these coming weeks. More information can be found here:
[url]http://bit.ly/jRb4g[/url] ([url]http://bit.ly/jRb4g[/url])
Andy
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I hear they are getting veee...e..r..rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyy close to getting the new upload back end going. I have heard that before, but this time is seems like it is really going to happen.
your message may also contain hidden messages prefiguring a future in which one or two companies will own all microstock :o
hope it's not true :)
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I hear they are getting veee...e..r..rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyy close to getting the new upload back end going. I have heard that before, but this time is seems like it is really going to happen.
your message may also contain hidden messages prefiguring a future in which one or two companies will own all microstock :o
hope it's not true :)
haha, no - no hidden message like that (that I know of anyhow) I just heard that the release date will hopefully be very soon.
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I hear they are getting veee...e..r..rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyy close to getting the new upload back end going. I have heard that before, but this time is seems like it is really going to happen.
your message may also contain hidden messages prefiguring a future in which one or two companies will own all microstock :o
hope it's not true :)
haha, no - no hidden message like that (that I know of anyhow) I just heard that the release date will hopefully be very soon.
...mmmhhhhhh....."very soon" from panther can be a veeery long time...hope I'm wrong.
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I hear they are getting veee...e..r..rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyy close to getting the new upload back end going. I have heard that before, but this time is seems like it is really going to happen.
your message may also contain hidden messages prefiguring a future in which one or two companies will own all microstock :o
hope it's not true :)
haha, no - no hidden message like that (that I know of anyhow) I just heard that the release date will hopefully be very soon.
...mmmhhhhhh....."very soon" from panther can be a veeery long time...hope I'm wrong.
What? Is it July 2009 on Panther already? ;)
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I'm tired to wait for ever...still no answer from PantherMedia...
Now is time to stop upload for a while... >:(
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still no "new upload"?
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it is a pity really that the new submit interface doesn't come for so long. Even my tiny portfolio of 105 pictures does generate regular sales (a few per month) - so I feel it would make sense to upload my other ~1400 photos... but I don't have enough patience to do it with the current interface.
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it is a pity really that the new submit interface doesn't come for so long. Even my tiny portfolio of 105 pictures does generate regular sales (a few per month) - so I feel it would make sense to upload my other ~1400 photos... but I don't have enough patience to do it with the current interface.
Similar for me and my illustrations. They could be a good addition for their site (the don't have anything similar), but I just can't be bothered with their upload system.
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And now there are also ftp problems... :-\
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Still ftp problems...nobody mind about it? ???
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I am using ftp on pm and it's working properly - sometimes it takes a few minutes for pictures to show on site, but nothing more
Did you contact support?
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Yes I did but no answer at all... >:(
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Yes I did but no answer at all... >:(
Told You So! ;)
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still no "new upload"?
I would like to have an answer too...
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still no "new upload"?
I would like to have an answer too...
Come on now, guys - it's only been 19 months since the first announced it ;)
If, no, make that when it's released, it will be the most extensively tested piece of software ever...
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still no "new upload"?
I would like to have an answer too...
Come on now, guys - it's only been 19 months since the first announced it ;)
If, no, make that when it's released, it will be the most extensively tested piece of software ever...
Remember Exxon Valdez iStock. Sometimes it's better to spend couple years with testing. ::)
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I doubt very much they are doing the testing for the last 19 months. I guess they just got some other priorities and submission mechanism remains unfinished.
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I doubt very much they are doing the testing for the last 19 months. I guess they just got some other priorities and submission mechanism remains unfinished.
Obviously some of us didn't put enough smilies in their posts ;) :D
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I guess the programming expenses for the new upload system were deemed 'unsustainable'. ;D
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Well, you probably noticed Panthermedia upload issues with LightBurner - only FTP uploads work at the moment there, and there is no Panthermedia uploads at all with ProStockMaster. Panthermedia is aware of that and according to the information I have they plan to solve it in February yet.
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if they get "enough" submissions (enough from their own business point of view) why bother with the new system? Easier upload = more uploads = more inspectors = higher cost. If they can't justify it with sales growth it's counterproductive to introduce it...
David, the main problem is not uploading but attributing which is extremely painful at the moment... It is more painful than the old system at Alamy (and now Alamy significantly improved it).
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Agree. I do not think it works for Panthermedia neither for their contributors or buyers.
I would definitely streamline the entire upload process to a simple 'upload->approve->sell' scheme, like many other agencies do.
Faster uploads with less human intervention = bigger image collection at lower costs, and faster growth.
Hope that my fellows at Panthermedia share this vision.
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I uploaded a few hundred a year or so ago. They went through them, posted all the approvals first then all the rejections last. As they only count the last 100 inspection results, this meant that instead of having an 80%+ approval rate (which is what it actually was) they credited me with about a 90% rejection rate and cut off my FTP access. It was so ridiculous I didn't bother with them again (I'm not messing about for months uploading a couple a day via my super-slow connection to get FTP privileges back again).
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Big new!
New upload system is on line!
Just need to try it now... ;D
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just saw their banner in microstockgroup here..
30sec per image? some websites you can do 30 image in 1 second..
Big new!
New upload system is on line!
Just need to try it now... ;D
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Here's the press release
http://blog.microstockgroup.com/panthermedia-upload-tool/ (http://blog.microstockgroup.com/panthermedia-upload-tool/)
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just saw their banner in microstockgroup here..
30sec per image? some websites you can do 30 image in 1 second..
Big new!
New upload system is on line!
Just need to try it now... ;D
Yeah, you could do 30 images in one swoop. Depends on how many releases and things you have to attach. If you have a batch of 50 images that have all the same general info it would only take a few seconds to send in the whole batch.
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finally they did it!!!
it looks nice but I've haven't tried it out yet. Will do some uploads to test it.
Best
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Sending some of mine now, seems pretty sweet. Only limitation is the max ftp size is 150 megabyte; will need to constantly watch and transfer as I have much more than 150 mb
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then i dont get it what does it mean '30sec per image'?
i got some server error when i try to browse around..
just saw their banner in microstockgroup here..
30sec per image? some websites you can do 30 image in 1 second..
Big new!
New upload system is on line!
Just need to try it now... ;D
Yeah, you could do 30 images in one swoop. Depends on how many releases and things you have to attach. If you have a batch of 50 images that have all the same general info it would only take a few seconds to send in the whole batch.
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finally they made it! However I don't get why it takes 3 hours to process the files I sent via FTP... I.e. I can't yet judge the rest of the process.
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uploaded 1 image to try ! reported FATAL error !! but image still got there !? ???
then processed it nice and easily without having to tick the usual 1000 or so boxes ;)
now we'll see if it gets through the system or not !! ::)
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Hi everybody,
as already posted in this thread, our new contributor portal is online. Please see further info at:
http://www.panthermedia.net? (http://www.panthermedia.net?)contributor
Also, Tyler wrote in his blog about our new submission process within this portal:
http://blog.microstockgroup.com/panthermedia-upload-tool/ (http://blog.microstockgroup.com/panthermedia-upload-tool/)
You might also want to look at this article:
http://www.microstockdiaries.com/panthermedia.html (http://www.microstockdiaries.com/panthermedia.html)
Anyway, if there are any questions, I try to answer them here as good as possible. The long FTP import from the directory into our "my images" overview is currently under heavy workload. We have limited it to x images per second by ftp. It seems that a lot of new photos are currently imported. We do not want our servers to burn...we just moved into a new part of our data center...:-) Once the upload rate is back to normal, there will not be any problems. Besides, we are enhancing our system and servers to improve speed.
Our banner slogan "30 sec per image upload" refers to batch processing of series. If you have large series of images, the required time per image drops to about 30 seconds (+- some seconds) depending on size and keyword/other metadata complexity.
Hope you enjoy the new system!
Robert
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And the flood may begin...
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my 'images' tab is missing, i can't find any link to see where is my images and how to upload..
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at mtkang,
please change to the contributor portal first. You can switch to this portal in the navigation at the bottom of each page. Then select "My images" from the "Image administration" menu at the bottom of the page in the contributor portal.
Best regards,
Robert
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and is it possible to switch to a light background instead of black??
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Did you see the restriction that you only have 150MB of FTP space (which turns out to be about 38 images). So the upload process now needs to include separating all the files I haven't uploaded over the past 2 years into blocks of 150MB...
As well as waiting 258 minutes for the FTP to process and then going through all the steps against each image (or at least now we can create a set of images to edit)
Why is this so hard....
Steve
http://www.backyardsilver.com (http://www.backyardsilver.com)
PS - anyone know if this is a hard 150MB limit or just something we need to manage ourselves?
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Why is this so hard....
Everything is relative ;) Compared to other sites it's still hard. Compared to the previous version of Panthermedia it's so much easier now!
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I like panthermedia but they are still a pain to upload, similar to alamy
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Did you see the restriction that you only have 150MB of FTP space (which turns out to be about 38 images).
where did you see that restriction? I just uploaded about 260MB without any problem, awaiting for import
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I asked the site to send my user name and password for FTP, and it was in that email:
"Important :
- Avoid special characters in file name
- Edit or remove images in your FTP folder within 7 days
- Your available FTP space: 150MB (please do not exceed this)
- Please do not create sub-folders in your FTP folder"
Perhaps it is not a real limit?
Steve
http://www.backyardsilver.com (http://www.backyardsilver.com)
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isn't that their review time? just kidding. :D
just saw their banner in microstockgroup here..
30sec per image? some websites you can do 30 image in 1 second..
Big new!
New upload system is on line!
Just need to try it now... ;D
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Hi Robert
Congratulations, I think the new interface is a vast improvement (like the link to the old Overview, as it do have some interesting info one still likes to see).
Unfortunately I still have quite a lot of images which have been in the queue now for nearly 3 weeks, so either there is a problem with my profile, or I see a problem with you handling a bigger influx of images?
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Panther,
On the way to trying to improve the upload mechanism on your website, why did you make navigating the rest of the contributor pages that much more difficult, and painfully slow.
And why do you keep making it so hard to look at sales? Take a page from Dreamstime, and cut your sales report page from 3 pages down to 1.
I have done website design long enough to know, that if you got rid of all the fancy "page loading" ajax, and the collapsible menus, that have now slowed down the load times of the pages, and made it harder to get around - you would have much happier contributors.
Its almost painful not being able to make the changes myself they are so simple.
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If I somehow manage to lose the IPTC keywords on a batch of images, how do I get them back without clicking the "IPTC" button individually on each image? (The images are not a series and have different keywords)
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Hi, thanks for your feedback. Let me try to answer it one by one:
On the way to trying to improve the upload mechanism on your website, why did you make navigating the rest of the contributor pages that much more difficult, and painfully slow.
>It should not be slower, that may only be due to increased traffic yesterday. The navigation is, in our opinion, much more intuitive. Changes always take time until you are used to the new system, but it is now really clear and separated from the other functions (photocommunity, contributorportal, stockagency and blog).
And why do you keep making it so hard to look at sales? Take a page from Dreamstime, and cut your sales report page from 3 pages down to 1.
>There only is one page: Revenue Overview. In this overview, you have all different sales bundled (single images, subscription, distribution partners, affiliates, etc.) in one simple overview.
Note, the subscription sales in your revenue overview are bundled in your monthly subscription income. If you want to see what images ahve been downloaded in that month, you can change to "subscription sales". If you want to see what affiliate commission you got, change to affiliate customers. If we would import all single transactions from affiliate and subscription into the revenue overview (instead of just the monthly sum), you would loose yourself in hundreds and thousands of single accounts...
I have done website design long enough to know, that if you got rid of all the fancy "page loading" ajax, and the collapsible menus, that have now slowed down the load times of the pages, and made it harder to get around - you would have much happier contributors.
> We tried to get the best compromise. The batch editing funtion however makes it mandatory to use some of it. We are happy to hear what changes you want to make. Please post a message at http://www.panthermedia.net/index.php?page=kontakt_ba_fc.php (http://www.panthermedia.net/index.php?page=kontakt_ba_fc.php) and I will forward your recommendations to our IT.
The reviewing times are currently very long (min. 3 weeks). THis is due to heave uploading in the beta testing phase and with new contributors. However, we scale up in reviewing capacity and work on a new system. We are very sorry for the long reviewing times, since we know it is a pain to wait for so long.
There is no FTP upload limit currently. The email text is based on an old system and we will modify that. Please upload as much as you like.
Currently, we have a very high upload rate (I love it!). The drawback is that we have to limit the number of imports per second to guarantee a fast and stable platform for photographers and customers. Once the uplad rate goes back to normal, the import times via ftp will go back to normal (few minutes).
We are very sorry we cannot change the background to white. We choose black since it makes viewing images more comfortable (better contrast).
Then I do have a question for luissantos84: What exactly makes uploading a pain?
Best regards,
Robert
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New upload system is great, but I can't find my images after uploaded from FTP ???
And after I edit my incomplete images by new system, nothing happen... still "incomplete", not "pending" ???
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Hi Robert
I was the one who complained about the 250M limit on uploads - thanks for clarifying that this was an old email.
I do think the new site is a big improvement over the old approach (I had pretty much stopped uploading to Panther some time ago) but I did run into a limit this morning. I have a lot of images to upload and so when I saw your response this morning, I restarted my FTP. I did hit a hard limit at 1024MB (ie 1gig) - all files after that point were rejected with an error stating that the Quota had been exceeded.
I do need to get on the site and start adding the main keywords etc. but it does look as though there is a hard limit of FTP space.
Steve
http://www.backyardsilver.com (http://www.backyardsilver.com)
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Then I do have a question for luissantos84: What exactly makes uploading a pain?
Best regards,
Robert
I am not luissantos84, but just like him I think it's still a pain, although a bit less painful than before.
Pros:
- the multiple pictures editor is great;
- optional categories are great;
Cons: still too many questions asked for me, e.g.
Rechte / Bild an Bildredaktion senden
Why not signing once and forever that I am the author of my pictures? It's boring having to tick a box each time
Hauptsuchwörter (max. 8 )
I put most important words first already in IPTC - why not copying first eight words automatically?
Nachricht an die Bildredaktion
If I send a picture of a building and I don't attach a model release, then it's obvious that I am convinced that I don't need it: why having to type "Property-Release-Vertrag nicht notwendig, da Motiv von öffentlichen Platz aus fotografiert wurde" or similar each time? Ok, the German Panoramafreiheit is great but there's no need to state it over and over :)
Medientyp
I barely do illustrations. 99.9% of my pictures are photos, while others mainly do illustrations. Why can't I set it as default?
Freigestelltes Objekt
Can't you try to find yourself automatically if there's a lot of RGB(255,255,255) pixels on margins?
Please note that I think you did a great job and this new upload method is a welcome improvement, I am just suggesting further improvements.
Setting - or allowing us to set in profile - a default answer for each question could be a solution: just like "Emotionen der Person(en)"which is already automatically set as "undefined" is a good option for those not doing portraits.
Thanks
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And one request from me:
Please make the sign-in time longer. The site appears to automatically log out after around 30 minutes of non-activity - you can't immediately tell that it has happened, until you try to edit an image and then the page just sits there trying to load. You need to reload the whole page and sign in again to continue.
No reason why you can't have several hours of non-activity for a site like this.
Steve
http://www.backyardsilver.com (http://www.backyardsilver.com)
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Robert,
I think the forums here will provide an easier way to illustrate my points above.
As far as the ajax/javascript problem I talked about, here is the screen in question, and its the same issue regardless of which of the various pages you are on. Basically what's happening is the pages load just fine, but the ajax/javascript progress bar keeps spinning its wheels for 5-10 seconds after the screen is loaded. And so you have to wait for it to realize it was done a long time ago, before you can do anything else.
(http://www.ultimateplaces.com/panther/panther_screen1.jpg)
Now lets look at this screen once its finished loading. You want to know what my first thought was, when this page finished loading yesterday? Where the heck is the navigation, and why can't I backup and go back to the screen I was just on. Oh I eventually found the menu system...but in order to get to any other page I either have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page where the menu is hidden from view and click, or I have to click the orange "open menu" tab in the upper right hand corner and then find the one I want. So in essence by moving to this new design you have added 2-3 extra steps every time someone once to move from one page to the next. That might not seem annoying at first, but if a contributor wants to spend any serious time on this site they are going to get annoyed really fast, especially when they knew it was alot faster before you changed it.
(http://www.ultimateplaces.com/panther/panther_screen2.jpg)
And as far as the earnings, I urge panther to seriously look at how others are displaying this information. The main problem I see is you give snippets of information across multiple pages, rather than consolidating it as much as possible on one. I get your point that you can't put everything there, and I really don't want to see all the individual affiliate sales, I think like you say that would be crazy. But there is some logical consolidating that could be done.
What I like about the screen shot below is it shows me when the file was downloaded, what type of download it was, how much I made on the sale, a thumbnail of what was sold, and what terms were used to find what sold. Like Pather they put all the affiliate and "special earnings" stuff on a different page. But anything related to purchases of my own images they keep to single page...short, sweet and a time saver for the contributor.
(http://www.ultimateplaces.com/panther/dreamstime1.jpg)
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Hi all,
thanks for the feedback on the system. Let me try to answer one after another.
@elwynn: I need further info. Usually, you first upload via FTP. Then you go to "image upload" and import all images into "my images". Once imported, go to "my images" and edit all mandatory info. Once the yellow traffic light is shown, they are forwarded to the reviewers.
@steheap: I assume our IT guys have limited the FTP space to 1GB. I can be extended manually. Please contat our support with username and the request that you want to extend the limit. Maybe 1 GB is enough to process the first batch of images? Anyway, it can be extended though.
@microstockphoto.co.uk:
Thanks for the pros. Re the cons...
Rechte / Bild an Bildredaktion senden
Why not signing once and forever that I am the author of my pictures? It's boring having to tick a box each time
I will think about the consequences if we leave it out. Thanks.
Hauptsuchwörter (max. 8 )
I put most important words first already in IPTC - why not copying first eight words automatically?
We got a cool new function. Check all images, then go to the right orange box and choose "Copy main keywords". This function copies the first eight keywords of each image into the box "main keywords". The reason why it is not done automatically is, that not all photographers keyword the images by priority.
Nachricht an die Bildredaktion
If I send a picture of a building and I don't attach a model release, then it's obvious that I am convinced that I don't need it: why having to type "Property-Release-Vertrag nicht notwendig, da Motiv von öffentlichen Platz aus fotografiert wurde" or similar each time? Ok, the German Panoramafreiheit is great but there's no need to state it over and over Smiley
Leave it blank like 99,9% of all photographers...
Medientyp
I barely do illustrations. 99.9% of my pictures are photos, while others mainly do illustrations. Why can't I set it as default?
You are right. I will talk to our IT.
Freigestelltes Objekt
Can't you try to find yourself automatically if there's a lot of RGB(255,255,255) pixels on margins?
No, I get your point, but that does not work for most images. We have a search filter "copy space" that uses this function, but isolated images are different than images with a large copy space. And the only person to tell the difference is the photographer himself.
@steheap
I recommend you either on login check the box "stay logged in" or go to your "settings" an choose "Permanent login via longterm cookies". That lets you stay logged in.
@gwhitton
You are right with the waiting time for the subpages. I will talk to our IT how we can handle that.
Re the revenue overview. Please see my screenshot of our overview and my explanation:
(http://www.panthermedia.net/international/images/screenymsg.png)
Every image download (via credits, purchase on invoice, distribution partners, special licenses) is displayed one by one including all customer info (name, credits, price, share, etc.). ONLY the subscritpion downloads and affiliate downloads are summed up in a monthly total (without the details -> these can be seen in the respective submenu). Isn't it what you wanted to see?
Best regards,
Robert
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Robert,
I think all the extra clicking we now have to do to reach the menus is just as important. Is there a reason you decided to hide it up in the corner, rather than using the hover-over drop downs as before?
And thanks for the followup on the rest, its nice to see a responsive agency. Regarding subscriptions, I wouldn't mind seeing those images in one place too...primarily because that seems to be what I mostly get. Its like a 30/1 ratio for me, I don't know about everyone else though.
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Hi all,
thanks for the feedback on the system. Let me try to answer one after another. Robert
Thanks for your detailed answers.
I understand your points, except one: If I leave the notes to the editors blank, they usually reject my architectural pictures, especially modern architecture. So I must fill that field currently.
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So, I read through a bunch of the reviews about new uploads and people making sales and moving up a tier and thought I should get on at this site. So I rushed over to it and filled in all of my stuff for registration and got the email to make it good and all of that but now every time time I click on a page it sends me to a page that says I must pay 35 cents to use paypal as a payment. This is very strange as i have never had to pay anyone else to sell photos. Is this normal?
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It is normal. At PantherMedia. It's because of some paypal account verification.