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Title: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 08, 2013, 15:37
This image was rejected for numerous reasons. I wont say the agency.

I fail to see the same problems as them. So as a once off, to confirm I am not going crazy, what do you think.

Focus is good, so its about exposure, lighting, composition, overall quality, etc.

Thanks,

Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: tab62 on May 08, 2013, 15:48
my eyes are drawn to the right side (bright sky) of your image thus taking away from the actual ferry...
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: steheap on May 08, 2013, 15:54
I'm sure a lot would reject for property release issues unless you made it editorial. Removing the name doesn't seem to cut it these days.

I agree also about the lighting - it is actually quite hard to look at the ship - the bright contrasty area to the right is like a magnet for the eye

Steve
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 08, 2013, 16:07
Ok, thanks guys, I dont have that problem with the bright side, but its my image  ;)

I figured the part of the sunset would be nice in the overall image. I guess I was wrong

Thanks.
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Phil on May 08, 2013, 16:12
HI,

white parts of the ferry are blue and the sea is half yellow, half blue so my guess is they said white balance? :)

changing the blue half the sea to match to other side, brightening the bottom half the photo with a bit extra on the ferry gets past the bright spot in the sky.
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: steheap on May 08, 2013, 16:41
Thats right - I wondered why it looked a bit strange. Why doesnt the color in the sea reflect the sky on the right (and be yellowish) and then be darker and blue on the left where it is reflecting the boat and clouds. That unexpected contrast gives it a strange perspective to my eye.

Steve
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 08, 2013, 18:12
What would someone use this for?
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Silken Photography on May 08, 2013, 19:01
Is the water wonky?  It looks like it's lower on the left, but that may be an artifact of the changing colour of the water.

I agree that my eye is drawn to the sun rather than the ship,

(Disclaimer: I am TERRIBLE at judging straight horizons by eye.  I'm sure my head is wired at a slight tilt.  Even when I have spirit levels and gridlines that assure me a line is dead straight, my eyes tell me it's just a tiny bit off)
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: tab62 on May 08, 2013, 19:19
possible commercial uses- (In Seattle, WA we have ferries running 24x7 for folks living in the islands. )

Passengers, cargo, merchant, vehicles, transportation, travel, transit, transport.
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: shotupdave on May 08, 2013, 19:41
This image was rejected for numerous reasons. I wont say the agency.

I fail to see the same problems as them. So as a once off, to confirm I am not going crazy, what do you think.

Focus is good, so its about exposure, lighting, composition, overall quality, etc.

Thanks,

The lighting is flat on the ferry, the sky is distracting,
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 09, 2013, 01:51
Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: michealo on May 09, 2013, 04:31
ferry is underexposed, sky is over exposed
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: gostwyck on May 09, 2013, 04:34
What would someone use this for?

Maybe for a tutorial on improving stock photography skills? It perfectly illustrates how the subject is too small and underexposed against a distracting background.
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Beppe Grillo on May 09, 2013, 06:57
From my point of view the photo is not bad.
The colors are okay because they reflect the natural situation: the blue of the white part of the boat is absolutely normal as this part is in the shadow, the orange reflection on the sea is obviously the reflection of the sky, even if, yes, it could look a little strange.
The attention is drawn by the high light in the right, I agree.
I like the tonality of the clouds.
I think that this photo could have more chance to be accepted if you crop it a little the up part to remove the lighter part, and the right part to remove 40% of the high light.
Then the boat will be more centered, so more present.
Maybe you could increasing light and contrast on the boat will help a little.
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on May 09, 2013, 09:55
I agree with the others about the lighting and I also thought the composition could be improved.  Here's my version - tried to tone down the differences in lighting and cropped it so the subject is more prominent.


Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Elenathewise on May 09, 2013, 12:05
I bet if you just took a gray eye-dropper in Camera Raw and sample the white on the ferry (that would adjust the overall color balance) they would accept the image. Right now it has a definite blue cast, even if the orange in the sky is confusing things a bit. If you want to brighten up the ferry and tone down the sky, it all can be done easily with PS (adjust levels and do some simple masking). I wouldn't crop it since in my experience ad agencies and publishers prefer more copy space than less - they can always crop it themselves. I've been asked many times if there is a version of some of my images with more copy space.
That would be my advice to get the image accepted. In reality though, things do look blue in the evening:)
You can PM me directly if you need more help with this.
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 09, 2013, 14:33
What would someone use this for?

Maybe for a tutorial on improving stock photography skills? It perfectly illustrates how the subject is too small and underexposed against a distracting background.
You dont know what you are talking about. You judge me on one image.

If I expose the ferry, the sky blows out, if I expose the sky, I end up with a silhouette. Have you ever noticed that when you shoot at the evening/night, your shadows turn blueish? Hence a blue cast on the ferry. Too small in the frame? What about keeping space in front of a moving object? Rule of thirds?

And if you dont know what this image can be used for, then I suggest you take a tutorial. Plus everyone else voting your comment up.
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Pauws99 on May 09, 2013, 14:38
So why ask for an opinion?
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 09, 2013, 14:38
The image just got rejected by SS as well, for lighting. I will rework the file and see if I can fix the issues.

Thanks to those who gave fair critique, the rest who are just here to knock it  for the sake of trolling can go suck lemons.

Its also the reason why I dont post images for critique here, this was the first and last.
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 09, 2013, 14:40
So why ask for an opinion?
Because there are obvious problems I didnt see. Some people gave good advice, and I see the issues now. Why does Gostwyck have to be a d**k when I ask for normal critique? And why ask me what the image can be used for? If you cant see that, you better go find another job.
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: tickstock on May 09, 2013, 14:43
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Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: tab62 on May 09, 2013, 15:00
I feel this was an overall positive post- take what will benefit you and use it. The comments you don't like just dismiss them. Therefore, don't let this be your last image for a  critique because if you do that than others will be afraid to post their images for a critique. This is common on all photo sites -you are going to get some very harsh comments and some very nice comments- just life...

T
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 09, 2013, 15:05
I appreciate what you are saying, and I understand that, harsh critique is fine, and I learned something from this thread, but I just do not accept any stupid comments. Its completely unnecessary, at any time.

But it will be my last thread for critique, I do not want to aggravate myself over these trolls who always need to show complete disrespect for anyone who are not at their level.
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: gostwyck on May 09, 2013, 15:29
What would someone use this for?

Maybe for a tutorial on improving stock photography skills? It perfectly illustrates how the subject is too small and underexposed against a distracting background.
You dont know what you are talking about. You judge me on one image.

If I expose the ferry, the sky blows out, if I expose the sky, I end up with a silhouette. Have you ever noticed that when you shoot at the evening/night, your shadows turn blueish? Hence a blue cast on the ferry. Too small in the frame? What about keeping space in front of a moving object? Rule of thirds?

And if you dont know what this image can be used for, then I suggest you take a tutorial. Plus everyone else voting your comment up.

I wasn't actually replying to you. I was merely responding to Sean's excellent question. That's why I quoted SEAN in my post and not you.

Now in this post, because I've quoted you, it means this time I am replying to your post. Get it?
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 09, 2013, 16:26
Iet
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: cascoly on May 09, 2013, 17:13
ferry pix can do well - travel, transportation, city scapes, lifestyle

(http://www.pix-now.com/United-States/Washington/i-7w8HJFj/0/M/26926a-M.jpg)
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(http://www.pix-now.com/United-States/Washington/i-PfwNxCG/0/M/080627-100-104p1-M.jpg)
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Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Poncke v2 on May 09, 2013, 17:24
Of course.
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: Gel-O Shooter on May 09, 2013, 18:11
This would be cool in HDR...if the ferry wasn't moving.  Nothing drastic, maybe 3 exposures at -1, 0, +1. 
Title: Re: Critique this image of a ferry leaving a port
Post by: NONO2020 on June 11, 2013, 15:30
From my point of view the photo is not bad.
The colors are okay because they reflect the natural situation: the blue of the white part of the boat is absolutely normal as this part is in the shadow, the orange reflection on the sea is obviously the reflection of the sky, even if, yes, it could look a little strange.
The attention is drawn by the high light in the right, I agree.
I like the tonality of the clouds.
I think that this photo could have more chance to be accepted if you crop it a little the up part to remove the lighter part, and the right part to remove 40% of the high light.
Then the boat will be more centered, so more present.
Maybe you could increasing light and contrast on the boat will help a little.
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