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« on: January 15, 2009, 12:42 »
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Hello:
i can't get in ISP, they have rejected my application twice, these are my 3 last images I've submitted, please give me some indications on what type of image they want, or if you are kind enough, go check my port in the last link and advise me on what of the images i have so far,  you would upload next time, I'm confused.

http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/29299411
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/30416771
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/30530931

this is my port at SX, they are the fastest reviewing so it's the only site i have all my images accepted so far, but ignore the photos, since i want to concentrate in the 3d renders.
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/profile/arquiplay7

Thank you all for your time and help, your advice will be very estimated for me.

Bye


« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2009, 13:00 »
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Would like to help, but I can't tell anything from your links. We would have to see what the inspectors are seeing. Original files at 100%, to check for focus, artifacts, over sharpening, blown highlights, etc.

« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2009, 13:14 »
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sorry, i forgot to mention the rejection:

"At this time we regret to inform you that we did not feel the overall composition of your photography or subject matter is at the minimum level of standard for iStockphoto. Please take some time to review training materials, resources and articles provided through iStockphoto. The photographs provided in your application should be your best work. Try and impress us, we want to see how you stand out from the crowd."

so the reason are not technical issues i guess.

thank you

« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2009, 13:26 »
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they politely told you "your photos suck!".

anyhow, I like those photos. Not bad ones. IS is weird sometimes. Or most of the time, to be precise. I dont know what people se in IS, it is the worst possible agency!

-slowest site
-most complicated site
-most complicated upload method
-smallest upload limit
-smallest commision (20%)
-lowest sales
-highest rejection rate for unreal reasons (like artefacts which doesnt exsist)

Sometimes I wonder why I even bother with them.

shank_ali

« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2009, 13:39 »
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Peter, istockphoto pays out over one million dollars to its contributors a day.I think you can safely presume that is a good reason why any photographer should try and become a contributor on the site.

shank_ali

« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2009, 13:49 »
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Hello:
i can't get in ISP, they have rejected my application twice, these are my 3 last images I've submitted, please give me some indications on what type of image they want, or if you are kind enough, go check my port in the last link and advise me on what of the images i have so far,  you would upload next time, I'm confused.

http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/29299411
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/30416771
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/30530931

this is my port at SX, they are the fastest reviewing so it's the only site i have all my images accepted so far, but ignore the photos, since i want to concentrate in the 3d renders.
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/profile/arquiplay7

Thank you all for your time and help, your advice will be very estimated for me.

Bye

Try any human face.You will not need a model release on your application photo's as they will not be inspected for addition to your portfolio.When your three images pass the initial application process YOU HAVE THE CHOICE TO SUBMIT THESE 3 IMAGES FOR INSPECTION.
Mount your camera on a tripod,either use a remote switch or a 2/10 second timer.You may think you hold your camera steady but why take a chance on your application.Your green wall/flowers and window should be placed before istock in your 3rd application.It is a good stock image with loads of copyspace for a designer.g/l

e-person

« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2009, 15:04 »
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First two photos might have copyright issues.

Also they want to see what you can do. Show them variety.

To me it is well worth it. I mean, you can't be in microstock and not be with IS.

« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2009, 15:36 »
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Peter, istockphoto pays out over one million dollars to its contributors a day.I think you can safely presume that is a good reason why any photographer should try and become a contributor on the site.

I think you'll find it is 'over one million dollars' per week. It's not $1M to each contributor either __ it is actually split between them.

« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2009, 15:51 »
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I would have thought the first two were fine.  I agree with putting in a person shot on the last.

« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2009, 15:59 »
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I would have thought the first two were fine.  I agree with putting in a person shot on the last.

I thought the same thing, and was amused that the throw-away image conflicts with his stated direction: "but ignore the photos, since i want to concentrate in the 3d renders."

« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2009, 16:06 »
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Yes sounds very familiar.
I'm still trying to get my illustrations approved third time now.
They say what they want in the application but don't accept what they want.
I will try one more time and if they don't want my vectors  so I'll let it be enough stock agencies likes my stuff.

JerryL5

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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2009, 16:15 »
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As far as 3d at IS, any 3d illustrations I've submitted at IS
has been turned down for the same reason you list.
All the other sites have accepted them. So good luck with 3d on IS.

« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2009, 16:23 »
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Peter, istockphoto pays out over one million dollars to its contributors a day.I think you can safely presume that is a good reason why any photographer should try and become a contributor on the site.

I think the stat you meant to quote was one million a week

-> arquiplay77  your photos look quite good.  I am surprised that they didn't accept them.  Assuming there wasn't any problems with focus or other quality I am guessing it was because they were nothing 'out of the ordinary' enough for the reviewer. 

I agree with the others though, try with a person and you might have more luck.

hali

« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2009, 16:36 »
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I checked out your port on StockXpert and if any, I would not expect IS to reject your work with reason of "over-processed".  I noticed a couple that may have IP problems.
But on the whole, your images are IS type of images, ie. not over-saturated, not over-processed.
I think it could just be a case of a reviewer having a bad day (or a disappointing night)  ;)
keep trying. and yes, I go with leaf's advice, "do something out of the ordinary", although even then, it's hard to predict with IS.

« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2009, 05:09 »
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Thank you guys.

I must say that i am Spanish talking, guess that's why didn't get some things like:
Quote
was amused that the throw-away image conflicts with his stated direction: "but ignore the photos, since i want to concentrate in the 3d renders."

Sorry didn't get what you said. What i was saying was to not consider the few photos i have on my port at SX, that last link i posed, all the images i submitted where 3d renders, except for the last vector (i was trying to vary a little bit). I consider myself a barely amateur photographer, and have no equipment to make some portrait session, thats why i wanted to concentrate in 3d since it's my profession and it's what i am going to base my port in this microstock bussines. I have my little bussines of CG architecture, and will make some renders between works for this, since i allready have the equipment, the know how, and the 9-10 hrs in the studio every day  ;D

What really annoys me is that they don't tell you which images are OK and which ain't, so maybe the last submission was rejected only for the vector, and could have passed if i replace that for the green wall image for example.

that's why i ask you to choose between my images witch 3 would you send next time.

I will post 6 links from SX port for you to choose 3 please:
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/31037091
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/31037131
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/31037111
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/31037101
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/31037071
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/29074601

Maybe i will try some portrait for the submission, i have a very cute friend that is willing to model for me and even sign the release, but my inexperience in the field makes me be afraid of it, i have a Nikon D80, a 100mm 2,8 macro lens that could use for this, and can borrow a sb600 flash, Tait's all, so i guess will have to shoot some exterior photos and see if I'm lucky with the results.

Thank you for the time, if you are still reading ;)
bye


Microbius

« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2009, 05:19 »
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thought so, the radio and the building blocks are 3d renders.
IStock has plenty of excellent photographers shooting objects, so photo realistic renders of objects that could be easily shot are a bit redundant.
I would have gone for different images, maybe something like your 3d globe with tree growing out of it, stuff you couldn't do easily with a camera. And lose the vector as it's not up to the standard of some of your renders.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2009, 05:25 by Microbius »

« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2009, 05:32 »
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You need 3 totally different images, tecnically perfect. That's all. For example, one omage from outside...a landscape for example, one image from inside...some interesting object, and one image with people (you can make it outside), for vectors, I don't know what to advice you, as I am still not a vector cotributor at IS

« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2009, 05:37 »
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Microbius: What you say make total sense to me, will try to focus in hard to photograph things.
BTW these where my 3 initial images rejected the firs time.

http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/29075701
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/29075671
http://www.stockxpert.es/browse_image/view/29074561

now i realize that maybe i fail with the 3 stars image.

bye

« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2009, 12:48 »
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Just to stress what Whitechild has said about images being different; one of my applications was rejected simply because they thought images were "too similar in subject matter or style". All of them were taken outside on a sunny day, for example, and they wanted to see how one shoots in different lighting situations.

shank_ali

« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2009, 01:34 »
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My 3 images for my istock application were...close up of a mans face,two industrial cooling towers,and a night image of a river and bridge with reflections.The cooling tower image passed further inspection after my approval as a contributor,the night image failed and i did not submit the mans face.
The mask around the globe is over complicated for an application.I had the same problem and it took me four attempts before realising simplicity and good composition  wins every time.

hali

« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2009, 11:55 »
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Just to stress what Whitechild has said about images being different; one of my applications was rejected simply because they thought images were "too similar in subject matter or style". All of them were taken outside on a sunny day, for example, and they wanted to see how one shoots in different lighting situations.

how coincidental, maybe we had the same reviewer. My three submissions were taken outside too but I waited for the lighting to change so as to get 3 variations. They took only one of the three.
Even more ironic is that the other sites also took one of the 3. Get this, the same two were rejected.
Maybe there is a common link among the sites, and buyers do look for the same thing from different sites. (just wondering).

Tuilay

« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2009, 11:59 »
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Just to stress what Whitechild has said about images being different; one of my applications was rejected simply because they thought images were "too similar in subject matter or style". All of them were taken outside on a sunny day, for example, and they wanted to see how one shoots in different lighting situations.

how coincidental, maybe we had the same reviewer. My three submissions were taken outside too but I waited for the lighting to change so as to get 3 variations. They took only one of the three.
Even more ironic is that the other sites also took one of the 3. Get this, the same two were rejected.
Maybe there is a common link among the sites, and buyers do look for the same thing from different sites. (just wondering).

No secret at all. Whenever you submit identical images, never submit them en masse.
Stagger your submission. They will be rejected for the above reasons .
However, if you stagger your submission, they will accept all of them.

hali

« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2009, 12:01 »
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No secret at all. Whenever you submit identical images, never submit them en masse.
Stagger your submission. They will be rejected for the above reasons .
However, if you stagger your submission, they will accept all of them.

you think I could re-submit them some other time? at different times too, Tuilay?

« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2009, 18:30 »
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how coincidental, maybe we had the same reviewer. My three submissions were taken outside too but I waited for the lighting to change so as to get 3 variations. They took only one of the three.
Even more ironic is that the other sites also took one of the 3. Get this, the same two were rejected.
Maybe there is a common link among the sites, and buyers do look for the same thing from different sites. (just wondering).

According to them, the common subject for 3 pictures of mine were "male persons doing sporty stuff". You can judge for yourself:




One month later, I got accepted with the first one resubmitted, and these two:



I hope this helps.



« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2009, 23:34 »
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I don't upload anymore. they just frustrate the heck out of me.

ironarrow

« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2009, 23:56 »
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Yes sounds very familiar.
I'm still trying to get my illustrations approved third time now.
They say what they want in the application but don't accept what they want.
I will try one more time and if they don't want my vectors  so I'll let it be enough stock agencies likes my stuff.

Your photos are nice. Also, I am just being honest but your vectors will never get into IS!

It looks like you are an accountant who is trying too hard to do vectors just for money. Stick with the photos. You might get annoyed with my post but deep inside you know I am right and I am saving you a lot of time..

ironarrow

« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2009, 00:07 »
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A few answers in BOLD below:

they politely told you "your photos suck!".

anyhow, I like those photos. Not bad ones. IS is weird sometimes. Or most of the time, to be precise. I dont know what people se in IS, it is the worst possible agency!

-slowest site (Can be sorted out by not using dial up  ;D)
-most complicated site (Most advanced, up to the 21st century standards)
-most complicated upload method (most thorough upload method which ends up providing the most spam-free search results )
-smallest upload limit (Thank god it is small, They know how to take care of rubbish)
-smallest commision (20%) (yet it manages to generate the biggest revenue per image per month and it is more if you are an exclusive which is kind of fair)
-lowest sales (probably for you)
-highest rejection rate for unreal reasons (Not if you manage to learn what they DO NOT WANT)

Sometimes I wonder why I even bother with them. (you bother because all I am saying above in bold is true and you want to discover it for yourself, so good luck, I hope you will do it  :))

« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2009, 04:43 »
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Thank you all for your suggestions, I'll try to come up with 3 images that shows variety, but still been simple and maybe include a photo (if i could find any of mine totally noise free)

Quote
Posted by: ironarrow
Your photos are nice. Also, I am just being honest but your vectors will never get into IS!

It looks like you are an accountant who is trying too hard to do vectors just for money. Stick with the photos. You might get annoyed with my post but deep inside you know I am right and I am saving you a lot of time..

I don't get annoyed at all, i know I'm not an illustrator, in fact this is the first one I've done in my live, just thought it could add some diversity to my port, i will keep practicing though, since this vector got accepted and is selling in other sites, (it gave me 5 $ in SX yesterday :o). But if IS has a higher level for vectors or whatever i don't mind at all, just won't submit there. BTW, it's another kind of application for vectors in IS, i mean if one get accepted as a photographer for example, then you can't upload vectors?

Thank you.

ironarrow

« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2009, 09:39 »
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Thank you all for your suggestions, I'll try to come up with 3 images that shows variety, but still been simple and maybe include a photo (if i could find any of mine totally noise free)

Quote
Posted by: ironarrow
Your photos are nice. Also, I am just being honest but your vectors will never get into IS!

It looks like you are an accountant who is trying too hard to do vectors just for money. Stick with the photos. You might get annoyed with my post but deep inside you know I am right and I am saving you a lot of time..

I don't get annoyed at all, i know I'm not an illustrator, in fact this is the first one I've done in my live, just thought it could add some diversity to my port, i will keep practicing though, since this vector got accepted and is selling in other sites, (it gave me 5 $ in SX yesterday :o). But if IS has a higher level for vectors or whatever i don't mind at all, just won't submit there. BTW, it's another kind of application for vectors in IS, i mean if one get accepted as a photographer for example, then you can't upload vectors?

Thank you.

Don't get me wrong. My answer wasn't to your question. I answered Kaycee. I can't quite make up my mind about your port though. The thing with your images is you have some talent that is for sure. Some of your isolated images can be accepted by IS. But not in the beginning.

In the beginning you have to show them 3 special images. 3 good and different images that is not similar to what they already have. They want to know you can add something new to their library. Once you are accepted you can send these rejected files again and try again  ;)

« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2009, 11:54 »
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Yes sounds very familiar.
I'm still trying to get my illustrations approved third time now.
They say what they want in the application but don't accept what they want.
I will try one more time and if they don't want my vectors  so I'll let it be enough stock agencies likes my stuff.

Your photos are nice. Also, I am just being honest but your vectors will never get into IS!

It looks like you are an accountant who is trying too hard to do vectors just for money. Stick with the photos. You might get annoyed with my post but deep inside you know I am right and I am saving you a lot of time..
Not for the money just having fun to draw (as you know already)

bittersweet

« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2009, 12:05 »
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BTW, it's another kind of application for vectors in IS, i mean if one get accepted as a photographer for example, then you can't upload vectors?

That's correct. There are separate applications for vectors, photos, flash, video, and audio. Several years ago, there was only one application and those of us who were accepted at that time were (and still are) approved for vectors, photos, and flash (the three formats they had at the time). It was a lot easier to get into istock back then.

Good luck!  :)

« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2009, 14:03 »
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Thank you all for your help.
I finally got in ISP, right now im waiting to the first batch to be aproved.

DanP68

« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2009, 17:29 »
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I would have thought the first two were fine.  I agree with putting in a person shot on the last.


I agree with you.  The first two are fine, but perhaps that is the problem.  IS has thousands of photos like this, so what is the need for more of them?  IS may want something besides generic objects isolated against a white background, even if they are technically sound.

My advice is for the OP to stretch his/her limits and go for something creative and unusual.  Give IS something they don't have yet. 

DanP68

« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2009, 17:35 »
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Thank you all for your help.
I finally got in ISP, right now im waiting to the first batch to be aproved.


Forget the above advice then!   ;D 

Nicely done.  Good luck with iStock.  A very pleasant agency to work with, without question.  Also consider Shutterstock too, as the combination of iStock and Shutterstock often provides us some pretty magical earnings.

« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2009, 21:57 »
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Congratulations and good luck!


 

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