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Title: DT refused files, kindly please critique.
Post by: eklogite on October 25, 2013, 09:05
Hello every body.

I have the following files rejected on DT.
The minaret is rejected due to composition and the corn due to lighting problem.
Could you please assist me how to fix the issues with them ?
I have made a crop of the minaret showing more details, will it work? (Full-minaret.jpg)

Sincerely
Eklogite
Title: Re: DT refused files, kindly please critique.
Post by: luissantos84 on October 25, 2013, 09:15
Corn
- could be sharper
- lighting does feel a little flat (mostly on the foreground), just give it a little more contrast

Minaret
- composition ain't very attractive once you framed it almost on the middle, next time place it on the left or right, you can always fill the frame with it as well
Title: Re: DT refused files, kindly please critique.
Post by: JPSDK on October 25, 2013, 09:35
agree,
and
Minaret... is burned out on the right, thats what caused the lighting rejection. Also it should have been taken more from the side or with a tilt shift lens.

Maise... colour is flat, water between kernels. It fades out of dof and it is actually difficult to see what it is.

Remember we  are not photographing things here, and seeing the light and all that. We are providing the customers with an illusion of an item, that is quickly recognizable, iconish and carries the message in a glimse of an eye.

I use to say, that stockphotos are photos you dont look at, because you dont need to, you already know what it is.
Title: Re: DT refused files, kindly please critique.
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on October 25, 2013, 09:52
The funny thing is that the vertical crop you've done of the minaret is much more appealing than the original picture.
Because you are missing the rest of the mosque, the minaret is essentially a photo of an architectural detail, but all the space around it makes it look as if it ought to be a picture of a whole building. When you crop in tight, the detail actually becomes a detail.
Title: Re: DT refused files, kindly please critique.
Post by: eklogite on October 25, 2013, 10:06
Thanks guys for your quick response.
I did not get a lighting rejection for the minaret.
The minaret had a crop/composition problem and I gave it a tighter crop.
I guess I need more details photo for the minaret with the current crop.
Should I crop it tighter?

Cheers
Eklogite
Title: Re: DT refused files, kindly please critique.
Post by: luissantos84 on October 25, 2013, 10:50
Thanks guys for your quick response.
I did not get a lighting rejection for the minaret.
The minaret had a crop/composition problem and I gave it a tighter crop.
I guess I need more details photo for the minaret with the current crop.
Should I crop it tighter?

Cheers
Eklogite

both versions, one with copyscape and other tight
Title: Re: DT refused files, kindly please critique.
Post by: ShadySue on October 25, 2013, 12:23
Isn't it weird?: buyers ask for more 'airy' compositions so that they can choose the crop to suit their projects (which makes sense - our images may not be the final design, but sites don't like 'airy' compositions (and it seems that tighter crops sell better).
As 'art', I'd certianly crop the minaret much tighter (like your cropped example); but maybe DT don't like charging customers for a plain sky they could add in themselves (?).
Title: Re: DT refused files, kindly please critique.
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on October 25, 2013, 12:44
Isn't it weird?: buyers ask for more 'airy' compositions so that they can choose the crop to suit their projects (which makes sense - our images may not be the final design, but sites don't like 'airy' compositions (and it seems that tighter crops sell better).
As 'art', I'd certianly crop the minaret much tighter (like your cropped example); but maybe DT don't like charging customers for a plain sky they could add in themselves (?).

Yes, it does seem that buyers tell us one thing but do something else. I suspect it is because that on an "airy" composition they can't see that the detail is there, even if they know it was there they would have to buy a huge size and do a heavy crop to bring it in and they don't want to pay the extra just to crop extraneous material off.
Title: Re: DT refused files, kindly please critique.
Post by: eklogite on October 25, 2013, 13:39
That's interesting that DT rejected the second crop when I resubmitted the tighter crop.
Reason :
Image subject is too specific or niche-oriented. The primary goal of a stock image is to be generic and match as many usage types as possible. Your image is not generic enough and will not generate significant sales. Please try to recreate/rephotograph the scene differently and/or use this info for more generic images in the future.

I think DT just does not like this image !

Cheers
Rz
Title: Re: DT refused files, kindly please critique.
Post by: ShadySue on October 25, 2013, 13:45
"other stock agencies are available".
At the prices they're advertising on their front page ("from £0.13 or free") they're not interested in the sort of buyers who want less mass-market material, even occasionally.
Title: Re: DT refused files, kindly please critique.
Post by: luissantos84 on October 25, 2013, 13:46
that rejection means they have enough of that subject so no point in approving more pictures unless it is unique and stunning

I believe that all agencies have enough of everything so we will see more and more that reason for rejection
Title: Re: DT refused files, kindly please critique.
Post by: icefront on October 25, 2013, 17:59
Isn't it weird?: buyers ask for more 'airy' compositions so that they can choose the crop to suit their projects (which makes sense - our images may not be the final design, but sites don't like 'airy' compositions (and it seems that tighter crops sell better).
As 'art', I'd certianly crop the minaret much tighter (like your cropped example); but maybe DT don't like charging customers for a plain sky they could add in themselves (?).

Although the 'airy' composition rule is 100% true, I hardly believe, perfect compositions and also tightly cropped shots do sell better due to the simple fact that these stand out on a page with 200 search results.
Also, the good compositions act like an out-of-the-box image, these are immediately ready to illustrate any given article or other stuff.

Sometimes I followed the 'airy' composition rule in parallel with the tight/strict composition rule and the statistics showed, yes, the cropped/composed versions has more downloads.
Title: Re: DT refused files, kindly please critique.
Post by: ShadySue on October 25, 2013, 18:06
It's true that in my found 'in uses' the pics are more often used 'as is', but maybe they're easier for Google reverse image search to find. I do also look for my name as credited, but as they are almost certain to be editorial uses, also more likely to be used 'as is'.