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« on: August 08, 2010, 23:59 »
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In 10 days I will be submitting my 5th attempt at Istock  ::) ... I have tried different combination of landscapes, isolation, etc.  Since I am still a newbie, I hope to get some of your experienced opinions.  I have been reading the forums and Istock forums and I am still not even sure what they are looking for ...  ???  The rejections are always:  "Two or more of these images are very similar in subject matter, perspective or style.... etc

Here are links to 5 pix that I still need to narrow down to 3.. 

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/Fan%20Palm%20Sky.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/gecko%20front.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/Street%20Sign.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/grass.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/playground%20-%20rings.jpg

or should I just forget all of these and pick different ones..

thanks in advance for looking..





aloha,

Brian


« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2010, 00:57 »
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The Gecko shot is a good idea.  I like how he is looking toward the camera, which is going to useful for designers.  But...

1)  Focus is too soft when I zoom in.  Look at the eyes.  You want good focus on the eyes.

2)  Image is noisy.  Look at the nose, and then the back legs / tail of the gecko.  Lots of noise.  This won't fly.

My advice is to re-shoot this one.  Nail the focus on the eyes using a good macro lens.  Be careful with your depth of field.  If you have enough lighting, go for F/8 if you can while allowing enough shutter speed to account for slight movements.

I'll let others chime in on the rest of the images.  Good luck and keep at it.

« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2010, 02:11 »
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thanks for quick response and for the advice. 

Unfortunately i released Mr Gecko after taking the pictures.. maybe I can i catch him again :) 

« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2010, 03:33 »
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couldn't find the gecko ... tried to make some adjustments in photoshop.

here is a revised version of the pic.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/gecko%20-%20rev.jpg

« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2010, 03:52 »
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i guess i was lucky to get accepted in istock, because i wasn't even uploaded the full size image for the qualification, due to it is scanned image and the size is less than 6MP, but i was accepted. It seems now it review the technical quality of the images instead of just photographic quality?

however, i found that maybe you shouldn't include your studio shoot, i found the park and the palm tree images aren't interesting, most time you need to have great light outdoors to make your images look great.

i checked out your shutterstock, i like this 2..

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-57653023/stock-photo-close-up-of-tropical-heliconia-flower-leaf-in-hawaii.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-57591259/stock-photo-a-tan-boy-and-girl-toddler-holding-hands-isolated-on-a-white-background-in-hawaii.html

« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2010, 04:33 »
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/Fan%20Palm%20Sky.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/gecko%20front.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/Street%20Sign.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/grass.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/playground%20-%20rings.jpg


Palm
-propably "not stock oriented" according to most sites. I like the snapshot quality of this, also Photocase might like this.
-Looks too processed in closeup (noise reduction? filtering?)

Gecko
-Soft and noisy
-Reflections have bad color. Partly die to over exposure
-Distracting water beads on the head
-Too much white space / animal too small in the frame

Sign
-This is okay (the holes in the bottom part distract me a bit), but not good enough for application (there are tons of sign pictures already, they would propably rather see something more creative)

Grass
-I don't like the brown part in the bottom of the image. You should rather crop it when shooting.
-the unsharp grass melts in the background. You have already shot this at f/20, but you could always move your focus back just a bit.
-The grass in the top is borderline over exposed and changes color.
-As in the case of the sign, there are tons of grass pictures already, they would propably rather see something more creative

Playground - Rings:
-The think in the picture doesn't look familiar to me, I really can't understand what is in the image. If the wiever can't regonize the thing in the picture it won't sell a lot.
-Overexposed white sky in the background
-Flat and dull light
-Cluttered background with trees, cars etc etc.
-I'm not sure if the focus is in correct place here

« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2010, 04:50 »
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Just as an aside, I'm surprised you got into Shutterstock but are having such a hard time at iStock.  Shutterstock has been known, almost notoriously, as the most difficult site to get into.  Been that way for at least 3-4 years.

Shutterstock is also very harsh on images with focus problems or noise issues.  Since you have built a portfolio there, you must have some technically strong images worthy of your IS application.

What images did you use to get into SS?  Let's see those and determine if they are a better bet for your iStock application.

« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2010, 04:53 »
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I know what are the rings. I used to play handing on them when I was a kid. But second ring looks strange. It looks to me like you tried to lighten the sky to get rid of something distracting. I may be wrong of course. Take a look at the second ring. It's edge is very blurred against the beam in the background, but in the same time it's pretty sharp against the sky.
If you can, recover that sky from the original file.
Gecko is unfortunately noisy and too soft, and the grass is blown out on the grass tips.
The sign is good, and I can't say I don't like the palm tree. Yes, you used the flash, but overall the image looks like a nice background for some add. I don't think it's not stock oriented.

You got nice ideas. Just have in mind these technical details when you edit your images, and very soon you should be fine.

« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2010, 05:33 »
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@djpadavona: Regarding SS application, I have a different experience. I applied to shutterstock some month ago with 10 images and was accepted right away even though I feel today that iStock might not accept one of these images.

Maybe I was lucky or the SS guy had a good day...

« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2010, 11:53 »
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I'm sorry but I don't think any of these images will get you into iStock.

To me they all appear quite noisy and show artifacts.

Except of the Gecko they all appear too snapshottish.

iStock wants to see your creative side. 3 completely different shots.

No street signs, palm trees or grass. They've all been done too many times and iStock will only let you in if you can top the existing ones.

You need to convince them that you can deliver what they don't have yet or make it better.


Good luck!
« Last Edit: August 09, 2010, 11:55 by click_click »

« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2010, 13:39 »
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Thanks everyone for your advice and ideas !

mtkang :  thanks for suggestions, and taking the time to look at my portfolio, but the photos you suggested were already denied.

I am attaching links to all my rejections.  .. don't laugh too hard at the first batch :)

Shutterstock was a lot easier for me.  I got rejected the first time, but the second time I had 9 out of 10 accepted.  But Istock has been a challenge, obviously.

Here are my rejects:

Rejects 1
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/rejects%201.jpg 

reason: ... overall composition of your photography or subject matter is at the minimum level of standard for iStockphoto  (which I understand)

Rejects 2 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/rejects%202.jpg
Rejects 3 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/rejects%203.jpg
Rejects 4 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3467383/Istock/rejects%204.jpg


the rest of the rejections were:  ..Two or more of these images are very similar in subject matter, perspective or style..

Thanks again everyone..

aloha,
brian

« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2010, 14:33 »
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djpadavona:

The first 9 listed below were approved at Shutterstock, starting with banana and ending with cigarette.

http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?gallery_username=808isgreat&sort_method=oldest&rows_per_page=10&thumb_size=small&safesearch=1&safesearch_toggle=on


thanks.




   

« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2010, 14:55 »
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I think your hand erasing the power lines is a very clever concept.

« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2010, 15:06 »
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cclapper:
thanks !  I was trying to give Istock some different perspectives ... I have a lot of ideas but sometimes they don't seem to transfer to the photo.. but in this case i think it worked out.  Too bad it was rejected :)  Oh well. 

« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2010, 15:40 »
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cclapper:
thanks !  I was trying to give Istock some different perspectives ... I have a lot of ideas but sometimes they don't seem to transfer to the photo.. but in this case i think it worked out.  Too bad it was rejected :)  Oh well. 

I know what you mean about transferring ideas to photos, I have had the problem, too. Was it rejected for technical reasons or they didn't think it was stockworthy?

« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2010, 15:49 »
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the entire batch was rejected with the "Two or more of these images are very similar in subject matter, perspective or style.... etc

they didn't give specifics on the individual photos.

I got the idea when i was watching the news about the city wanting burying all the power lines for beautification purposes. 

Other sites seem to like it and accept it.

donding

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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2010, 18:55 »
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iStock likes to see a variety on your initial batch. You need to do a landscape....a people shot...and an isolation. Maybe not exactly like that but I think you get the idea. They don't want to see all isolation's so you have to show variety. Personally I see a lot of good shots in your port, but again the biggest majority are isolation's and that is what they are referring to. Once you get accepted then you can upload all the isolation's you want.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2010, 19:43 »
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after acceptance, what next.
I uploaded five images and nearly had heart failure working my way thru the upload process.

I noticed a bunch of tools in one forum... are any of them for making upload any easier?  Any recommendation on which ones to download/use?

« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2010, 20:14 »
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1st pic - overstock will say overfiltered they don't like the fake / enhanced skies
playground, you can see where you have cut out the sky around 2nd ring because of the part where it goes over the bar. also has fringing along tree edges

« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2010, 20:28 »
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street sign and grass, maybe also the gecko! the others are nice but I guess won't be approved.. :) good luck!

« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2010, 20:56 »
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After reading all the suggestions, I'm thinking maybe I will work on a different set of pix.  I'm gonna go with the people, landscape, isolation idea. 

Going to a wedding in Waikiki this weekend, so maybe i can get something..

thanks everyone..  i will definitely post a new set and get opinions again before trying to submit.

« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2010, 21:00 »
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warrenprice - the only uploading i have done to istock is to submit my rejected photos.  But I think they have software they recommend here:  http://www.istockphoto.com/ws_client_intro.php

Or you can download Filezilla ftp software, it's free.  http://filezilla-project.org/

« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2010, 21:47 »
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I noticed a bunch of tools in one forum... are any of them for making upload any easier?  Any recommendation on which ones to download/use?


Are you referring to tools for uploading your submissions to iStockphoto?  First off congratulations if you are accepted in iS.  Excellent, excellent company.

If you are uploading to iStockphoto, you MUST download and use DeepMeta.  It will make uploading so much easier.  I'm exclusive, and I use it all the time.  It's a brilliant program.  It will manage your image library for you, track your statistics, and make uploading a ton easier.  You have to use it, or you will pull your hair out eventually.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2010, 00:45 »
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Thank you so much, djpadavona.  That (DeepMeta) certainly makes life easier. 

ap

« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2010, 00:53 »
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yeah, congrats, warren for making it to is. i assure you uploading was much easier before even though it was still a pita. i haven't tried deep meta, but may consider it now that i'm getting ready to tear my hair out.


 

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