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Microstock Photography Forum - General => Photo Critique => Topic started by: trofia on January 19, 2012, 19:20
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Dear All,
After about a year of exclusivity at DT, I would like to try my luck at the SS application.
I was thinking to submit the following:
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=22557990 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=22557990) soy
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=21773749 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=21773749) montr of
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=21477768 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=21477768) colis
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=21287376 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=21287376) statues
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19982122 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19982122) cantir
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19465420 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19465420) wreck
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19428468 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19428468) b-w buil
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19434932 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19434932) corp buil
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19223577 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19223577) red bricks
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=18953468 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=18953468) constr
This is a starting point, please let me know what changes would you do basing your tips on my portfolio
http://www.dreamstime.com/Noodles73_portfolio_pg1 (http://www.dreamstime.com/Noodles73_portfolio_pg1)
Much appreciated!
V.
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For ShutterStock Editorial images need to be newsworthy.
You should read their articles on ShutterBuzz before you consider uploading editorial images in your initial 10.
If you don't follow their format to the letter they will bet bounced.
http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/creating-the-perfect-editorial-caption (http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/creating-the-perfect-editorial-caption)
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Thanks!
But in the ShutterBuzz I also found
Ask yourself: why is this newsworthy? Remember, all photos of famous landmarks or cities can be newsworthy, even if they are not taken during a particular event. You simply need to find the news angle (Example 4)
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http://www.dreamstime.com/office-building-image19428468 (http://www.dreamstime.com/office-building-image19428468)
http://www.dreamstime.com/office-building-and-blue-sky-image19434932 (http://www.dreamstime.com/office-building-and-blue-sky-image19434932)
http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photography-sesame-cracker-image18611472 (http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photography-sesame-cracker-image18611472)
(perhaps too bright on the top)
http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-the-city-and-the-art-image20238250 (http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-the-city-and-the-art-image20238250)
(crop the tents below and the arch on the right, you have another pic from the same place but sky not as vibrant as this one)
http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-images-view-of-milan-image21726114 (http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-images-view-of-milan-image21726114)
http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-dried-dates-image22523886 (http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-dried-dates-image22523886)
(not the best isolation, we see some of the "plate" but like it perhaps they will too)
http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photography-instant-coffee-image18820907 (http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photography-instant-coffee-image18820907)
(or this one, again, top of the picture, isolation doesnīt look very nice, for SS is acceptable)
http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photos-boat-trip-image19757718 (http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photos-boat-trip-image19757718)
(like it a lot but donīt know, low commercial value perhaps but show some artistic side from you)
http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-images-meazza-stadium-image17701614 (http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-images-meazza-stadium-image17701614)
(donīt know about the noise and it does need a top cleaning, make it pure white)
http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photo-accessories-street-stand-image20566205 (http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photo-accessories-street-stand-image20566205)
(like this one too but perhaps lcv, I actually see tons of uses for it)
it would be nice to send a portrait too but not needed, overall you need to approach more stock pictures, tons of editorial and I donīt see many success browsing agencies sales, hope that I have helped a little
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Thanks Luis!
You are totally right about my portfolio not being very stock oriented. The thing is that I really enjoy the editorial/hand-on camera photography. I am moving the first steps in the in-studio, but it will tak years. For now I would just like to make myself visible, enjoy, learn.
I agree on many of your picks, except for the sesame cracker, the coffee and the stadium shot...I would choose others instead of those 3.
Anyway thanks a lot!
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Standards at SS are very high and are continually going up higher yet every year if not sooner.
What you have on DT SS will probably only accept 50% if that.
Each site is different with different rules.
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Thanks, Rux. In fact this tread was to help me in choosing 10 files among that 50%!
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I checked your port, and its full of trademarks, they will never get in on SS. Why in the world do you only photograph trademarks.
I picked a few out , that I think might have a chance, IF they are well exposed, noise free and sharp. You DO have to check at 100%:
ID: 20829984
ID: 18695491
ID: 22008920 (change the colour and the trademark)
ID: 17701614
ID: 17995124 + MR
ID: 18378668
ID: 18141644 I think no MR needed, but check licenceplates
ID: 19757718
ID: 20805623
ID: 19208470 Check for trademarks
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Why so many trademarks?
Why not? As I said, I like to walk and take street photos. I know that the artistic street photography is not commercial, so I use those shots for exhibition in cafes. But when I see a brand I take a shot and noticed they sell on agencies...
Thanks for the feed back! So, I reviewed the 10 shots list and, after your suggestions, I am thinking to send:
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19428468 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19428468)
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19982122 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19982122)
http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photos-boat-trip-image19757718 (http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photos-boat-trip-image19757718)
http://www.dreamstime.com/caribbean-resort-image18378668 (http://www.dreamstime.com/caribbean-resort-image18378668) blurred faces and deleted logo
http://www.dreamstime.com/directions-and-distances-image20805623 (http://www.dreamstime.com/directions-and-distances-image20805623)
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=18953468 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=18953468) deleted logo
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=21287376 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=21287376)
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=22557990 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=22557990)
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=21477768 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=21477768)
http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19465420 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19465420)
please let me know what you think and what I should change in your opinion!
Thanks!
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ja, they seem OK.
Except for the second: http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19982122 (http://www.dreamstime.com/earning_det.php?imageid=19982122)
which has no direct trademarks, but the shop owner can recognize it and might make a claim. Thats a risk. Shutterstock might not take it or they might. For the first 10 i wouldnt take that risk.
The rusty car might also be danged, try it later, its risky in the first 10.
Important is that all pictures should hold water in 100%, and I cannot judge that.
You can sitemail me, and we might take it over skype, or something. If you want?
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Thanks JPSDK!!! I really appreciate, but I ended up sending the first 10. Couldn't wait anymore, the wait was killing me...let's see what is the outcome! I will keep you posted!
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Thanks JPSDK!!! I really appreciate, but I ended up sending the first 10. Couldn't wait anymore, the wait was killing me...let's see what is the outcome! I will keep you posted!
sorry to tell but you should have taken our advices, best of luck anyway
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If you have submitted your ten then you already have your answer by now.
They look at newbies pretty quick.
Only thing is you didn't post in the Critique / Tips / Tricks forum for I and a few others to check and let you know if they will make the cut!
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For ShutterStock Editorial images need to be newsworthy.
Have they ever explained why they think 'newsworthy editorial' is a good angle for micro?
(how fast is their inspection?)
Surely secondary editorial is a better match for micro? (if indeed the micro model is a good one for editorial)
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I checked your port, and its full of trademarks, they will never get in on SS. Why in the world do you only photograph trademarks.
They seem to be what sells best for him/her.
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Thanks JPSDK!!! I really appreciate, but I ended up sending the first 10. Couldn't wait anymore, the wait was killing me...let's see what is the outcome! I will keep you posted!
sorry to tell but you should have taken our advices, best of luck anyway
I was not clear! I followed your advice, of course! I uploaded the last list I wrote with a couple of exceptions...not sent yet, though, I am carefully tagging the images...
If you have last minute tips, let me know!
thanks!
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you got 2 of my 10 picks.. seriously good luck
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last minute advice would be to check them in 100%
Its impossible to see via DT, they are super over sharpened there.
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did it already!
Also 200%!
That is why I did not considered some of your suggestion. Some small chromatic aberration, some not really sharp image...I tried to get the best. Anyway, they are all images approved by DT in the last year, so they shouldn't be so bad, technically...am I correct? Maybe SS is stricter, but I don't see big tech faults...
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none are stricter, they are different. So you cant count on anything.
When first you get used to the agencies, its pretty easy to predict what they might like, and then suddently you get unexpected rejections. So you cant really predict at all.
There are no guarantees.
Fx I have quite many rejections at FOT whenever I postprocess, fx with HDR, they dont like that. SS does, they like all kinds of fancy pictures, as long as there is no noise and shadows.
DT is super easy, and then suddently sometimes, they reject a whole bunch for an unexpected reaqson. Istock are the worst, they are completely unpredictable, when you are an indie....
They take all kind of crap right out of the camera, but are hard to satisfy with postprocessing. I dont know how many times I have had the "either to feathered or too rough" rejection.
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Thanks JPSDK!!! I really appreciate, but I ended up sending the first 10. Couldn't wait anymore, the wait was killing me...let's see what is the outcome! I will keep you posted!
sorry to tell but you should have taken our advices, best of luck anyway
I was not clear! I followed your advice, of course! I uploaded the last list I wrote with a couple of exceptions...not sent yet, though, I am carefully tagging the images...
If you have last minute tips, let me know!
thanks!
If you want to save yourself a headache i suggest that you post them in the Critique / Tips / Tricks forum on SS so the pros can tell you what will and or will not pass and what you will need to do to gat accepted.
And as said before by someone here (JPSDK) they need to be highly scrutinized at a 100% view for focus, noise, artifacts, fringing and more because SS is very strict.
And if luissantos84 only picked two of your shots then your chances are slim because he knows the standards at SS as do I.
You posted while i was typing and you will know more than likely within an hour maybe. It is hard to say how long but for some reason sometimes newbies trying to get accepted get reviewed quicker then those of us who have been there for awhile. They also have separate reviewers for non editorial and editorial.
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Rux.
JPSDK = jps
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Rux.
JPSDK = jps
Holy Bejolies! :o
This is Jens? My God.
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he he.
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I will follow the force and dare the submission in the next coming days. I am learning a lot of things searching similar images already on SS.
For example, I learned that the majority of the shots of the Colosseum in Rome are RF. Only few are Editorial, the ones with some people around the image. In my pic some tourists are visible veeeery far, so I will play safe and submit it as Editorial...
I also noticed that many photo with people in the shadow and not recognizable are submitted as RF. Strange...I wouldn't risk. I think DT is more strict about people in images and they want them to be submitted as Editorial...
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I will follow the force and dare the submission in the next coming days. I am learning a lot of things searching similar images already on SS.
For example, I learned that the majority of the shots of the Colosseum in Rome are RF. Only few are Editorial, the ones with some people around the image. In my pic some tourists are visible veeeery far, so I will play safe and submit it as Editorial...
I also noticed that many photo with people in the shadow and not recognizable are submitted as RF. Strange...I wouldn't risk. I think DT is more strict about people in images and they want them to be submitted as Editorial...
As far as I can see, Editorial photos are sold RF on SS.
I think you're getting your head round what's editorial and what's acceptable as 'can be used for editorial and commercial purposes'.
I haven't looked that closely into SS, but if it's anything like iStock, there will be old shots in the 'commercial' collection which wouldn't be acceptable there nowadays, or which just 'slipped through'.
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For example, I learned that the majority of the shots of the Colosseum in Rome are RF. Only few are Editorial, the ones with some people around the image. In my pic some tourists are visible veeeery far, so I will play safe and submit it as Editorial...
I also noticed that many photo with people in the shadow and not recognizable are submitted as RF. Strange...I wouldn't risk. I think DT is more strict about people in images and they want them to be submitted as Editorial...
The real question is when were those popular building shots accepted? And those with people in them the same question. It is very likely that there were accepted several years ago before the rules were adjusted. Sometime last year SS stopped accepting buildings with property releases if they were "the main subject", this type of architectural shot still is commonly accepted by Istock and Dreamstime. I would use caution when searching the library for shots like yours and thinking that since some already exist, that similar ones of yours would easily get in, due to the rule change last year.
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Yes, but I hit the tab "New". So they should be the newest shots accepted...
I can see that the oldest images are technically less advanced...
too bad they do not put the date!
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The image# is how they determine old vs new.
Older images are like # 33000000 or smaller and newer are like 93000000 and larger quite easy actually.
If you are already signed with SS go to Shutterbuzz and look at the restrictions if you dare.
Here is the link and the Colosseum is not on the list of restrictions.
http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/legal/stock-photo-restrictions (http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/legal/stock-photo-restrictions)
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I think DT is more strict about people in images and they want them to be submitted as Editorial...
That's not true.
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Passed the Entry application with flying colors! 9 out of 10 were accepted...only the black and white building was rejected for LCV. Maybe the best shot...
Anyway I am very happy but now have to make decisions. I am an exclusive for DT and traveling for a month in March, so won't have a lot of time to dedicate to stock in March'April. I opted out the settings on SS, so my images are not online yet. How long can I keep my account and images "frozen"? Can I be not active for 2-3 months?
Anyway, I would like to thank everybody for your support and tips!
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The image# is how they determine old vs new.
Older images are like # 33000000 or smaller and newer are like 93000000 and larger quite easy actually.
If you are already signed with SS go to Shutterbuzz and look at the restrictions if you dare.
Here is the link and the Colosseum is not on the list of restrictions.
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/legal/stock-photo-restrictions[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/buzz/legal/stock-photo-restrictions[/url])
Small complication. SS and the other sites make up their own rules. Sometimes in the middle of the game. Just because they missed something, doesn't mean it's allowed (legally). Also just because they prohibit something, it doesn't mean it's not legal to sell RF images of that subject. Italy is complicated and a mess.
Italy: The Italian copyright law does not contain any exception for pictures from public places. Therefore, only "fair use" of images is permitted (according to copyright act, §70 and §70 1-bis), unless they don't portray any object still under copyright (as recent buildings, subjects to architect's copyright) nor any cultural heritage asset, subject to a fee and other restriction due to the cultural heritage and landscape law.
The following are considered cultural heritage assets: state owned things with some artistic, historic, archeologic or ethnoantropologic interest; libraries, galleries, museums and archives collections; other items declared cultural heritage by the Ministry of Cultural Heritage and Activities unless explicitly removed on a case by case basis.
The national catalog of cultural heritage assets is not publicly accessible. :o
The Colosseum Rome - Flavian Amphitheater in fact, is protected. But if the sites are accepting photos for sale, I'm sure not going to bring it to their attention. And I suspect the Italian laws and the MCHA of Italy, aren't going to complain either.
In other areas I've had things deemed Editorial only, when they aren't, and had things refused for possible copyright violation, which are clearly Public Domain. (and I won;t complain but I think there are some things they take that are clearly protected...) That's the way the ball rolls. Whatever the agency says, is their personal rule and it shouldn't be confused with the actual laws.