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« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2017, 06:41 »
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I am kicked out too. about 50 dollar every month, and last year in october this:

Dear Ivonne Wierink, Congratulations! We love your files and have decided to make you PhotoDune's featured author of the week. You won't be featured until the 18th of October, but you already have the shiny new badge. Enjoy!

It's a kind of a dception, well, I can live without them  8)


alno

« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2017, 06:55 »
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I am kicked out too. about 50 dollar every month, and last year in october this:

Dear Ivonne Wierink, Congratulations! We love your files and have decided to make you PhotoDune's featured author of the week. You won't be featured until the 18th of October, but you already have the shiny new badge. Enjoy!

It's a kind of a dception, well, I can live without them  8)

The shiny new badge of The most idiotic agency goes to...

« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2017, 07:31 »
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Just curious if anyone has been told their portfolio doesn't cut it at Envanto and had their accounts closed. I only make about $30 a month there and expect that email, but haven't received it yet. Just wondering if the culling has started yet.

mine too, they says " Unfortunately, the sample we looked through resulted in a very high number of photos that did not meet our new library standards"... hahaha...

thats so strange, I have almost 5000 images on sale which has consistts mostly iconic 3d renders, photodune already poor sale site, but I dont understand why they are deactivate so many images while other agencies accepting so many crappy images...

« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2017, 07:34 »
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I am kicked out too. about 50 dollar every month, and last year in october this:

Dear Ivonne Wierink, Congratulations! We love your files and have decided to make you PhotoDune's featured author of the week. You won't be featured until the 18th of October, but you already have the shiny new badge. Enjoy!

It's a kind of a dception, well, I can live without them  8)

The shiny new badge of The most idiotic agency goes to...

really thats so terrific ... :o

outoftheblue

« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2017, 08:21 »
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Agencies that bragged about their superior quality:
- Veer
- Crestock
or limited uploads for other reasons:
- Scanstock
- Graphic Leftovers

One is gone, and the others are not doing very well.

Chichikov

« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2017, 08:27 »
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I begin to think that they have reviewed nothing (frankly I wonder how they could do that) and they will closed all the portfolios hoping that then somebody would be enough stupid to upload again on their site
« Last Edit: February 07, 2017, 08:35 by Chichikov »

« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2017, 08:28 »
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I got the boot from them too.

« Reply #57 on: February 07, 2017, 09:06 »
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I have an account here at Microstock and do read all your comments. I specifically pointed email recipients to our forum post because responding to authors via email would not have been scaleable.

If you have any questions about the process or next steps, please feel free to ask them on the forum post.

A lot of the comments here are around low earnings, and that is part of the reason we're working to transform PhotoDune. Library growth has consistently outstripped sales growth, and an increasing number of items (and authors) have never made a sale. All of this despite an ever-increasing stream of customers we know frequently use photos in their projects.

Our updated quality and commercial demand guidelines are more detailed than before, so it's clear what we're evaluating and, based on our data, what we believe customers are looking to buy.

Some authors haven't posted new content in several years, other items while meeting previous guidelines if reviewed again would likely not pass. Some authors were posting the same image with small variations or in a sequence. These actions filled up the library without providing true choice to customers and lowering the overall quality of the library.

Sales on other marketplaces didn't factor into our decision-making. For Envato, what we're aiming for is a sustainable library of photos that gives customers a genuine choice and provides more opportunities for authors to earn.

As far as balances go, at the moment we're finalizing amounts owed and preparing our systems for a final payout. As the forum post says, for anyone with balances under the minimum threshold who sold on PhotoDune exclusively, you'll be sent an email with the final balance and our finance department will send you a payout.

Exact timelines are still being worked out for this last part but it's not going to take long.

Again, if you have questions about the process, please feel free to ask them on the Envato forum post.

You think this makes sense, but it doesn't. You are just blaming the contributors for your own failure. You could have been more strict and tasteful at the reviews all along. Now you are dreaming of a library that is better than everywhere else for your relatively small "stream" of customers. You think the microstock contributors will come to you and give you only their top 10 bestsellers or something? After showing such attitude towards us?

I can't specifically speak for the others here, so I'll tell you something about myself. I live in Western Europe and comfortably live from my small microstock portfolio. Just saying. I believe the "filling up the library without providing true choice to customers and lowering the overall quality of the library" can't really apply to me, how else do I generate a whole lot of sales elsewhere? Anyway, I don't need Envato, it's your loss if you don't want us and I don't think it will work out for you.



Edit: a question about payouts was answered below by Microstockphoto.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2017, 09:32 by Sandeel »

« Reply #58 on: February 07, 2017, 09:12 »
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well, this comment on the form just shows that they didnt put a lot consideration in reviewing our portfolios and that they are full of baloney

Quote
ToivoMedia14h
I was very pleased to find my portfolio has been reviewed and was found to have a VERY HIGH number of photos that didn't reach the high standards necessary. It would appear the fake news problem has spread to Envato, as I currently have zero items in my photodune portfolio, high standard or otherwise. Tremendous!

« Reply #59 on: February 07, 2017, 09:16 »
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sandeel, what they mean by that is that if you have files on other marketplaces your account remain active. if you are only selling on photodune marketplace then you will get paid your balance, even if its under the payout threshold. i have to say, thats very nice of them, that they decided not to keep your money.

JimP

« Reply #60 on: February 07, 2017, 09:19 »
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Anybody left there? Looks like quite the large crowd was shown the door. I'm not, I never applied. I don't feel so bad now that they have changed to strangly exclusive and never have said what they wanted.

For the record, poll says 29 for Evanto right now.

« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2017, 09:21 »
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Booted too.
60-ish on the list of top contributors.
It was fairly regular income, but still a low earner and stupid tax system, won't be missed much, one less site to deal with

« Reply #62 on: February 07, 2017, 09:26 »
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sandeel, what they mean by that is that if you have files on other marketplaces your account remain active. if you are only selling on photodune marketplace then you will get paid your balance, even if its under the payout threshold. i have to say, thats very nice of them, that they decided not to keep your money.

Oh thanks, I did get it wrong then. I hope it's okay with you if I modify my post.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2017, 09:32 by Sandeel »

« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2017, 09:43 »
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I actually wish other low earners commit suicide this way so I do not have to go through process of closing accounts :-) I only upload to 3 agencies right now anyway but keep logging so called "earnings" for dozen others. Now I get emails with not sales for 4 years from Dreamstime every single day :-)

« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2017, 10:25 »
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Who follows what they are up to - is there a page that boasts about how many photos they have for sale?  How much has it gone down?  Sheesh... if they are deleting top 50's and Photographer of the week's (from only a few weeks ago) are they starting again from scratch? 

« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2017, 11:06 »
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... if they are deleting top 50's and Photographer of the week's (from only a few weeks ago) are they starting again from scratch?

Even if they are (starting from scratch) does anyone care?

We already have a number of non-mainstream looks at other stock agencies, such as Photocase and Stocksy, plus special collections at the bigger microstocks (Offset, Infinite, Evo). This isn't a new idea

« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2017, 12:04 »
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I haven't receive any notice email yet. But I will be out soon I guess !

« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2017, 12:44 »
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Me too. Among top 50 contributors.

Looks like they fired majority of the contributors.

« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2017, 12:52 »
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Me too. Among top 50 contributors.

Looks like they fired majority of the contributors.

Well, with the weekly top images only selling 3 times even #10 didn't make much money. Let alone #50...

They're not going to compete with Shutterstock type images.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2017, 12:55 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2017, 13:41 »
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They tossed me out, too. My lowest earner, good riddance.

Leo

  • http://www.clipartillustration.com

« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2017, 15:44 »
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I got the email and assumed it was automated process. Here is my portfolio: https://www.shutterstock.com/g/leoblanchette

I respectfully request being added back in James Giroux.

« Reply #71 on: February 07, 2017, 15:47 »
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great port, obviously not what they are looking for.

did they tell you

   Inappropriate content type
   Composition/Lighting
   Authenticity and commercial viability
   Too many similar images

Which seems to basically cover all of their 15 million images then

« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2017, 15:52 »
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I am out too..

but I knew it since the original announcement as they had already said that there would be no illustrations..

it's going to be a "photos only" marketplace..

Leo, you should send those to graphicriver or 3docean.. they sell much better than photodune anyway    :)

Leo

  • http://www.clipartillustration.com

« Reply #73 on: February 07, 2017, 16:06 »
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I am out too..

but I knew it since the original announcement as they had already said that there would be no illustrations..

it's going to be a "photos only" marketplace..

Leo, you should send those to graphicriver or 3docean.. they sell much better than photodune anyway    :)

Oh no illustrations! That would explain it What if I said this here is a photo -- I caught this little guy abducting chickens for genetic hybridization one particular night. The conspiracy theorists love him. Now if I can just find a model to wear a  tin foil hat. Problem is I don't know any models and I'm not usually a photographer.

I'll take a look at those two places on my spare time. I haven't uploaded to an agency in ages though, and I don't want to break my fast.

« Reply #74 on: February 07, 2017, 18:38 »
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James, it is some really bad thing Envato just did to all those people who posted above. It's just something like a lazy and crazy African dictator does. Why search for a criminal in village? Let's burn down the whole village. It's too obvious those hardworking people really HAVE a lot of very good sellers on Photodune. In fact all of them could make up a nice new stock site selling like Stocksy or so. They spent a lot of their precious time to learn, shoot, process and upload their items and went through not the fastest upload process of Photodune. They sold photos for Envato salaries and their own bills. And they trusted you. Just believe me they won't come to your Envato forum to discuss their termination. You know it's quite strange for an artist to talk something like that: "I know you've just told me my work is crap but please let me stay!" Let other people there enjoy discussing new forum threads in Russian or Spanish or just brag about some new fancy icon.

First of all, thank you for the time and effort you and all authors take in creating and uploading items to PhotoDune. In speaking with photographers and knowing the limitations of our platform (including cumbersome uploading procedures), we felt it would be much easier and more successful for authors to resubmit a fresh portfolio based on our new guidelines than to ask them to go and clean out their existing individual photos manually. For portfolios that had a higher percentage of items that would need to be removed, this would be a particularly unrealistic request to make.  For example submitting 100 fresh photos is much easier and less time consuming than going through and deleting 900 out of 1000.

the thing that annoys me most is the arrogance of Mr. James, bigshot CEO, sending out a canned email to all contributors with the same reasons for elimination and then write a big forum post telling everyone discussion is not possible.

I am sorry if you felt offended by the tone of the email. This is not intended as an ultimate judgement on any photographers skills/merit. We reviewed a representative sample of each portfolio (including a spread of newest, oldest, high and low selling, etc). The general reasons for why a photo might not have been accepted were based on the most common issues we identified in our library-wide review, it was not meant to be applied to any one authors portfolio specifically. I apologize that that wasnt clearer.

If were removing a portfolio, its because we felt a high enough percentage of photos reviewed did not meet our new guidelines to the point that starting fresh would be the best and most successful way forward.  While we aimed to minimize the impact as much as possible, we know there are unfortunately some quality photos that will be removed in the mix, and we do hope youll consider reapplying with them in the future.

You think this makes sense, but it doesn't. You are just blaming the contributors for your own failure. You could have been more strict and tasteful at the reviews all along. Now you are dreaming of a library that is better than everywhere else for your relatively small "stream" of customers. You think the microstock contributors will come to you and give you only their top 10 bestsellers or something? After showing such attitude towards us?

No one at Envato blames authors or holds them at fault in this process. What were hoping to do is create an environment and experience that works much better, including:
  • More control over the pricing of individual items
  • Instantly able to publish photos (no more review queue!)
  • Greater exposure on a streamlined and updated PhotoDune
  • A new channel for earning via subscriber share on Elements
  • Better support tools and resources for managing a microstock business
In order to do this well, we needed to update our quality guidelines, let photographers know what kinds of photos Envatos customers are looking for and create a marketplace where those types of items are easily discoverable. Its not about being better than another agency but about understanding our customers, how they make purchasing decisions and exposing them to the content that best meets their needs.


 

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