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« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2014, 12:26 »
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yes - their reviewers make me laugh
« Last Edit: October 17, 2014, 17:11 by ferdinand »


« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2014, 13:25 »
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I'm getting OK sales but almost Everything Rejected over the last 3-4 months.

« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2014, 15:52 »
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I quite like photodune.

Easy to upload, and solid results.

Above canstock, deposit, bigstock and alamy for me. And dreamstime. I hate dreamstime.

« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2014, 18:15 »
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I'm done with them too.  One  of the lowest earning sites of the dozen or so I submit too and the worst acceptance ratio of any of them.  Just isn't worth the effort if they are going to reject 90%.

« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2014, 19:20 »
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For whatever it's worth, I recently sent them a site mail about their rejections and I included links to some of my full size images.  They did get back to me and agreed with me, accepting 20-30 images that were originally rejected there twice. They said that they would talk to the inspectors.  Haven't really had any problems since. This was about 6 weeks ago....Sept 2014.

« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2014, 20:57 »
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I haven't had an image accepted there for months now. Stopped caring.

Lightrecorder

« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2014, 01:33 »
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Same issue with their reviewers to a point I have stopped uploading and sales are decreasing. If  I cant get my images up and sales are getting worse, they basically are making themselves irrelevant, yet they seem to think they are doing the right thing.

Phadrea

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« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2014, 05:48 »
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Sick of. Almost all 100% rejections. I know my images sell well on ss/is and nothing wrong with my technical abilty. I am convinced the reviewers are amateurs.

Lightrecorder

« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2014, 06:26 »
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No their reviewers are not amateurs, but they have a very strict policy on subject overkill. They dont approve my landscapes anymore as I have enough according to them. Fun part is, I am a landscape photographer, so they basically shut me down.

« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2014, 06:57 »
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No their reviewers are not amateurs, but they have a very strict policy on subject overkill. They dont approve my landscapes anymore as I have enough according to them. Fun part is, I am a landscape photographer, so they basically shut me down.

Very unduly, if today someone who shot landscapes want to sell in Photodune he can't because he missed the first train.  The correct will be to take a look at the images thay have and to compare, if today you offer better image they can accept it.

fritz

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« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2014, 08:25 »
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I haven't had an image accepted there for months now. Stopped caring.

Well I haven't had an image rejected there for months now. Ok maybe 10 out of 1k rejected. Good agency keep uploading

« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2014, 08:39 »
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I haven't had an image accepted there for months now. Stopped caring.

Well I haven't had an image rejected there for months now. Ok maybe 10 out of 1k rejected. Good agency keep uploading

Do you mean now or before the changes there? Please share your last accepted batch to be more concrete. When and what?

fritz

  • I love Tom and Jerry music

« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2014, 09:16 »
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Since the beginning! Changes what changes?

« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2014, 09:57 »
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I upload mostly illustrations to Envato, with a few photos here and there. If most of my uploads were photos, I'd stop uploading altogether.

« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2014, 11:08 »
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 I am happy with every new rejection at envato - because it is sooooooooooooo irrelevant

« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2014, 19:02 »
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I haven't had an image accepted there for months now. Stopped caring.

Well I haven't had an image rejected there for months now. Ok maybe 10 out of 1k rejected. Good agency keep uploading

acceptances are really irrelevant --- how many SALES do you get from them?

fritz

  • I love Tom and Jerry music

« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2014, 19:12 »
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I haven't had an image accepted there for months now. Stopped caring.

Well I haven't had an image rejected there for months now. Ok maybe 10 out of 1k rejected. Good agency keep uploading

acceptances are really irrelevant --- how many SALES do you get from them?

10k+ Items   5k+ sales

« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2014, 22:15 »
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I haven't had an image accepted there for months now. Stopped caring.

Well I haven't had an image rejected there for months now. Ok maybe 10 out of 1k rejected. Good agency keep uploading

acceptances are really irrelevant --- how many SALES do you get from them?

I agree.  Don't care about acceptance rate, I care about income and photodune generates a couple hundred a month.  I'll keep uploading.

« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2014, 02:14 »
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Not completely irrelevant at my current acceptance level I expect my income to stagnate and then decline unlike other sites where I'm still increasing port size at a reasonable rate. Clearly Photodune don't want my style of pics fair enough but the ones that got through seem to sell OK. Luckily their upload process is painless (though a bit odd)

« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2014, 03:36 »
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If you want to see irrational rejections, try stocksy. :)

« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2014, 03:47 »
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If you want to see irrational rejections, try stocksy. :)

I'd be happy to try Stocksy's rejections :)

« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2014, 14:25 »
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Since there's been a few new posts lately I thought I'd provide additional information for those recently joining the thread. :)

First I'd like to thank everyone for your feedback and opinions, they are always valuable in our efforts to continuously improve the overall site experience for both our authors and customers.

Our reviewing team is composed of highly skilled and qualified people. On top of that, they are receiving feedback and tests on a regular basis to make sure they are as consistent as humanly possible. But even with that, if you submit a borderline image, chances are the outcome might vary depending on which reviewer gets the file. Why? Because in those instances, subjectivity will play a larger part in the final decision. Submit a great image or a very bad one and the consistency will be around 100%. We could put together a list of all the guidelines and policies we could think of, but in the end, there's always going to be those files that are right on the fence and could go either way. Aiming for the top is really the best way of getting a consistently high approval rate, staying clear of the borderline images. We do have many authors with 95+% approvals, so it's certainly not out of reach.

It's often tempting to compare rejections from different sites, but it's also important to keep in mind that images that were approved on another site 5-10 years ago (even if they sold well), might not meet their current standards anymore (this is important for those submitting their existing portfolios to Photodune). Just like it's possible that the standards on site X or Y are simply different.

Even with common subjects, we welcome fresh content, we are simply being a bit more selective. Customers like variety, but they also like finding good images without having to go through 500 weaker ones. Adding new content is definitely something we want, as long as it's adding value to the library and not just diluting it.

As you all know, the industry has changed over the past few years and so has the customer expectations. We feel by being slightly more selective, we are not only making the site more attractive and useful to existing and new customers, but as a bonus are also increasing your chances of sales on files that do get approved. Being more lenient would only have the opposite effect.

With all that being said, mistakes can (and will) happen, and if it's the case, like it's been mentioned by a photographer in a previous reply, we will acknowledge it and address the situation.

So bottom line, if you have multiple rejections you strongly disagree with, I re-invite you to contact us and let us know about it with the list of images you think should have been approved. There's 2 possible outcomes:
1. We overturn our initial decision, approve your images and provide feedback to our reviewers.
2. We confirm initial decision was accurate and provide you with personalized feedback so you have all the information required for your future submissions.

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Best regards,
Gaby Jalbert
Quality Team Leader | Photodune

« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2014, 16:57 »
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I observe higher rejection rates on Photodune than elsewhere too. Not by too much though.

But there are some unique and likable things on Photodune I think... easy upload, rating systems, stable customer base among all marketplaces. It is the only website where customers contacted me directly with special requests. That I like.  :)

« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2014, 19:15 »
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......
It's often tempting to compare rejections from different sites, but it's also important to keep in mind that images that were approved on another site 5-10 years ago (even if they sold well), might not meet their current standards anymore (this is important for those submitting their existing portfolios to Photodune). Just like it's possible that the standards on site X or Y are simply different.
nice try to divert criticism but I don't think anyone here was using old submissions as a comparison-- we're talking about CURRENT submissions that are accepted AND sold by other agencies, but are bulk rejected by photodune

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....We feel by being slightly more selective, we are not only making the site more attractive and useful to existing and new customers, but as a bonus are also increasing your chances of sales on files that do get approved. Being more lenient would only have the opposite effect.....
 
would be nice if that were the case  BUT
doubling a 0% sales rate doesn't help anyone -- just as others have reported here - I had more sales on most & featurepics than photodune ever managed to produce

« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2014, 23:58 »
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So bottom line, if you have multiple rejections you strongly disagree with, I re-invite you to contact us and let us know about it with the list of images you think should have been approved. There's 2 possible outcomes:
1. We overturn our initial decision, approve your images and provide feedback to our reviewers.
2. We confirm initial decision was accurate and provide you with personalized feedback so you have all the information required for your future submissions.

Quite honestly: Ain't nobody got time for that. If you were Shutterstock, sure, I might bother. But for Photodune's 1-2 sales per month? Meh. If you can't get reviewing right the first time, you missed out.


 

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