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« Reply #75 on: February 19, 2015, 09:00 »
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Its dissapointing for me as they reject nearly everything I submit yet those that do sneak through sell OK. Before this inspection madness started I had high hopes for this site. If it wasn't so easy to upload they'd be even nearer the bottom of my priority list.


Semmick Photo

« Reply #76 on: February 19, 2015, 09:50 »
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They are acting as an agency but calling themselves marketplace to avoid tax obligations. The reviews should be abandoned if they were a marketplace. They can cut cost of inspecting images and reduce their cut. But I will keep on dreaming.

« Reply #77 on: February 19, 2015, 13:42 »
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I just uploaded 50 images and got 45 rejected. Nothing there has changed. Not going to email them, fk it. They dont make me much no how.

No Free Lunch

« Reply #78 on: February 19, 2015, 13:53 »
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Not sure what type of images they are rejecting but my current acceptance rate is slightly over 98% with 3,180 accepted images in my portfolio.

I shoot almost all my images in my studio so that might be part of the reason.  I know FT is also harsh on shots outside the studio at least in my experience. 

« Reply #79 on: February 19, 2015, 17:37 »
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The vast majority of my shots are not studio type shots they are much tougher on me than fotolia who can be quite picky but tend not to reject whole batches

« Reply #80 on: February 20, 2015, 02:44 »
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I'm not with Envato and I don't know them but I'm reading about tax problem and big rejections and I need to ask you here - what is so exceptional with them that you try so hard to have your work on Envato? What makes it worth the time and work? Do they sell so much or for a lot $? What is the secret to bother with all this problems? If I'm correct they are pretty new in the market? May I please in short word? :)

« Reply #81 on: February 20, 2015, 03:35 »
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Easy to upload, reasonable sales and were rising in chart  and up until I guess a year ago reasonable acceptance rate. As I said going down my priorities but better than e.g veer, Zoonar, Yay for me.

« Reply #82 on: February 20, 2015, 09:03 »
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I'm not with Envato and I don't know them but I'm reading about tax problem and big rejections and I need to ask you here - what is so exceptional with them that you try so hard to have your work on Envato? What makes it worth the time and work? Do they sell so much or for a lot $? What is the secret to bother with all this problems? If I'm correct they are pretty new in the market? May I please in short word? :)

Nothing special.  Just another low tier agency.  That's why people are so amazed at he high reject rate. For me, some of my best selling stuff (non studio) they refuse to take. So I sometimes wonder why they are even in business. Are they in it to make money? Are they in it to attract a buyer-base who might be interested in something other than studio shot images? Apparently not. Very close minded on market breadth. I make that statement based on the high reject rate of non studio work. But I will keep my account open and since they have not grown for me in years I will upload and whatever they take great. But I'm no longer fighting rejections via email. Waste of time.

« Reply #83 on: February 20, 2015, 10:21 »
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Maybe they think the quality of their images is "high end". Not planning to waste time trying to find out

« Reply #84 on: February 20, 2015, 10:28 »
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I'm done. Just emailed them:

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I need to have my Envato author account closed. In light of the recent change to invoicing buyers on my behalf and having me act as the direct seller (and having to assume all related responsibilities regarding the added work of tracking sales and expensing author fees), I can no longer work with Envato. I am deeply concerned about this new method of processing sales, particularly as it relates to the amount of work I would need to take on just to adequately track income and expenses. My current commission doesn't support this kind of relationship with Envato, where Envato ceases to act like a true agent but expects to continue to take an agency-size percentage of each sale.

Please advise on how soon my account can be closed and when I can expect to receive my final payment.

Thank you

I don't have the patience anymore to deal with these kinds of companies.

« Reply #85 on: February 20, 2015, 10:34 »
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I'm done. Just emailed them:

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I need to have my Envato author account closed. In light of the recent change to invoicing buyers on my behalf and having me act as the direct seller (and having to assume all related responsibilities regarding the added work of tracking sales and expensing author fees), I can no longer work with Envato. I am deeply concerned about this new method of processing sales, particularly as it relates to the amount of work I would need to take on just to adequately track income and expenses. My current commission doesn't support this kind of relationship with Envato, where Envato ceases to act like a true agent but expects to continue to take an agency-size percentage of each sale.

Please advise on how soon my account can be closed and when I can expect to receive my final payment.

Thank you

I don't have the patience anymore to deal with these kinds of companies.

Hats off to you, Mike.

Phadrea

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« Reply #86 on: February 20, 2015, 11:29 »
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Easy to upload so why not ? Also, they do make some sales for me. Just had another whole batch bar one rejected. Clowns.

« Reply #87 on: February 20, 2015, 11:37 »
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For me their return per accepted image is similar to BS and CS and uploading is easy so I put them on the end of the upload list.  If their rejections annoy me too much I stop uploading for a while, but then usually start again when I get some sales.  They are a better earner than most of the other low-tier sites and require almost no additional time so why not?

« Reply #88 on: February 20, 2015, 12:31 »
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Of the smaller newer agencies they make me the most money.  Usually between $200-300 per month.  Enough that I will miss it if I have to drop them, but if they are gonna break my balls with this new  system I might have to quit them anyways.

« Reply #89 on: February 20, 2015, 13:06 »
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Of the smaller newer agencies they make me the most money.  Usually between $200-300 per month.  Enough that I will miss it if I have to drop them, but if they are gonna break my balls with this new  system I might have to quit them anyways.

That's about where I'm at. Wasn't making quite that much per month lately, but close to it. The loss of income will sting a bit, but I don't see any other way. I can't keep working with a company that runs things like this.

Really I was a bit on the fence before this "who is the seller" issue, to be fair. I had stopped uploading already, but I would have been content to just let things stay up there in the current system. I'd even have uploaded more if they had been more willing to work on pricing things better. But this whole mess is just a complete turn in the wrong direction. So like a Shark Tank shark, I'm out.

« Reply #90 on: February 20, 2015, 16:35 »
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Could somebody explain the difference from before (I've never sold at Envato)? As I understand Envato pays the VAT, so what's the difference?

« Reply #91 on: February 20, 2015, 18:12 »
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A unilateral suspension of the introduction of the new EU VAT laws for micro businesses and sole traders

Petition to sign - https://www.change.org/p/pierre-moscovici-a-unilateral-suspension-of-the-introduction-of-the-new-eu-vat-laws-for-micro-businesses-and-sole-traders

« Reply #92 on: February 20, 2015, 18:43 »
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My rejections are pretty low at PD (till now anyway) so no complaints about that!  However some months ago I found my b&w images getting rejected for some reason.  So I sent an email pointing out that the b&w's had been getting steady downloads from my port in past.  Hopefully that helped reduce b&w rejections - haven't tracked it.

The tax issue relating to their re-structure is another story and one that keeps concerning me .. esp since I'm based in Europe.  Waiting and watching for the moment, since don't really understand if there's reason for concern yet ..

Phadrea

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« Reply #93 on: May 04, 2015, 06:52 »
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I find them quite insulting when they reject a strong image, good lighting on the basis of poor composition and poor lighting. They really are amateur clowns and now absolutely nothing about photography. I am convinced they turn down good images because they are compertition to their own work.

fritz

  • I love Tom and Jerry music

« Reply #94 on: May 04, 2015, 07:30 »
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Can't complain! Approval rate at PD is 96% :) easy upload,fast review only sales could be better...

Semmick Photo

« Reply #95 on: May 04, 2015, 07:37 »
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I find them quite insulting when they reject a strong image, good lighting on the basis of poor composition and poor lighting. They really are amateur clowns and now absolutely nothing about photography. I am convinced they turn down good images because they are compertition to their own work.
Thats the problem, they have raised the bar and reject perfectly good images. Instead of saying that they have enough already, they say the image is crap. I have had many chats with Gaby (good guy), and its clear photodune's strategy is to have only great images and no over-abundance. Thats a good thing, problem is they tell you your image sucks, and they sell close to nothing. For me it became a numbers game to increase my sales. They dont want that, fair enough, its their agency. Problem is that they really are a market place taking a ridiculous amount of commission. Because of their remarkably poor decisions and poor businessmanship they stooped as low as DP and FT.

Semmick Photo

« Reply #96 on: May 04, 2015, 07:38 »
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Can't complain! Approval rate at PD is 96% :) easy upload,fast review only sales could be better...
Hmm, an approval rate of 96% doesnt do any good if you dont get sales...

fritz

  • I love Tom and Jerry music

« Reply #97 on: May 04, 2015, 08:05 »
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Can't complain! Approval rate at PD is 96% :) easy upload,fast review only sales could be better...
Hmm, an approval rate of 96% doesnt do any good if you dont get sales...

I do get sales 6k+(dl) according to their Top Authors statistics :)
« Last Edit: May 04, 2015, 08:12 by fritz »

Semmick Photo

« Reply #98 on: May 04, 2015, 08:06 »
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Can't complain! Approval rate at PD is 96% :) easy upload,fast review only sales could be better...
Hmm, an approval rate of 96% doesnt do any good if you dont get sales...

I do get sales 6k+ :)
6K+ what? Gross, net, annually, monthly?

fritz

  • I love Tom and Jerry music

« Reply #99 on: May 04, 2015, 08:08 »
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Can't complain! Approval rate at PD is 96% :) easy upload,fast review only sales could be better...
Hmm, an approval rate of 96% doesnt do any good if you dont get sales...


I do get sales 6k+ :)
6K+ what? Gross, net, annually, monthly?


http://photodune.net/author/top_authors


 

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