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Agency Based Discussion => Envato => Topic started by: grace on May 07, 2014, 05:31
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Hi everyone,How's your acceptance rate in Envato? Half of my photo get rejected in Envato because it did not meet their minimum requirements for quality and/or marketplace policies, but it all accepted in Istock,Canstock,123Rf. Swt :'(
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Dont worry! is very usual.
For me Envato Photodune is 2%-3% with 50% portfolio...
I think Envato is best for Vector, music...
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May I know that if I want upload some 3D rendering in Photodune, it should upload to 3Docean right? Do I need to register as contributor again or I can use my Envato acc to upload it?
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My rejections have gone up as well. They have tightened their standards I was told
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Hi Grace,
you can use the same Envato account for more than one market place. I use the same account for both Photodune and Audio Jungle. You will still have to do their test to be accepted as a 3d ocean author. You could also start up a separate account if you wanted to be exclusive on 3d ocean.
Tim
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I am new to PhotoDune. I am approved and trying to upload a few images. It appears that other than the full-sized jpg image, I need to create and upload the image thumbnail as well as the image preview files too. Is this correct ?
Will PhotoDune take care of adding the watermark ? Thanks for any response on this.
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I am new to PhotoDune. I am approved and trying to upload a few images. It appears that other than the full-sized jpg image, I need to create and upload the image thumbnail as well as the image preview files too. Is this correct ?
no, you don't need to upload anything else beside the full JPG
Will PhotoDune take care of adding the watermark ? Thanks for any response on this.
of course!
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I am new to PhotoDune. I am approved and trying to upload a few images. It appears that other than the full-sized jpg image, I need to create and upload the image thumbnail as well as the image preview files too. Is this correct ?
no, you don't need to upload anything else beside the full JPG
Will PhotoDune take care of adding the watermark ? Thanks for any response on this.
of course!
Thanks Luis ! Perhaps, I misunderstood the instructions. I will try again.
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Thanks Luis ! Perhaps, I misunderstood the instructions. I will try again.
Thanks Luis ! I was able to see my uploaded jpg after quite some time. There seems to be some outdated upload instructions that confused me. All is well that ends well :)
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95% acceptance rate, but I never had a sale !
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They outsource their inspections and things are all over the map - sometimes I have had everything accepted, and the last batch I sent a huge chunk were rejected (I don't know why because I don't want individual e-mails and thus you never know a reason; that information isn't available in a summary or on the web site).
They do sell, but not all that well (regular but low volume for me) . Some while back I voiced my opinion about the inconsistent inspections but I don't think PhotoDune is something the Envato folks pay much attention to - the meat and potatoes of their business lies in other marketplaces.
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Hi everyone,How's your acceptance rate in Envato? Half of my photo get rejected in Envato because it did not meet their minimum requirements for quality and/or marketplace policies, but it all accepted in Istock,Canstock,123Rf. Swt :'(
Don't sweat over them I consider Shutterstock/iStock/Alamy to be far and away better earners
Envato are arbitrary over rejections. If only their sales were high I wouldn't mind the rejections.
Yup it's a pain but they earned me a grand total of $1.65 in the last three months so it puts things in to perspective ???
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95% acceptance rate, but I never had a sale !
About the same for me. My sales aren't too good at roughly $40 to $50 a month on average.
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A contrary data point regarding sales. Envato is my #4 earner behind Shutterstock, 123RF, and iStock. Pretty impressive for a site I joined just three years ago.
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Hi everyone!
Hopefully I can help answer some questions here:
- 3D renders should be uploaded to 3D Ocean in the appropriate format, but jpg versions are accepted at PhotoDune as long as they're appropriate for the stock photo market.
- I will get with the team to check and ensure our Knowledgebase upload instructions are up to date and correct.
- Unfortunately our review consistency may have fallen a bit in recent times while we've run into increasing resource constraints, but we've been working very hard at hiring and improving in these areas. Having said that, this is an excellent time to introduce our new PhotoDune Quality Team Lead, Gaby! (Who will be joining here soon.) Gaby has lots of experience in the industry and will be focusing on PhotoDune, something the previous Review Manager role wasn't able to do! We're very excited for him to have joined the team and he's getting up to speed quickly. :-)
Thanks, everyone!
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terrible reviewers (and among the slowest), poor acceptance rate, and - because THEIR reviewers are so bad (rejecting hundreds of images that of course sell elsewhere) -- they now have the chutzpah to SUSPEND my ability to upload for some period of time!!!! what a JOKE!!!!! their sales are miserable - right at the low end of the bottom feeders. a few dollars more & i'll get my last payout and then i'll be done with them
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Thanks for the introduction Jarel, I'm really happy to have joined Envato! :)
Indeed we are working on many fronts to keep fine tuning the reviewing process and make it as consistent as humanly possible. We're also focusing on having standards evolve to provide content that reflects the latest trends in the industry.
A lot of subjectivity is involved with any kind of art form. And I can assure you our team of reviewers are highly qualified and they'd rather be approving 100% of submissions, it would make their job much easier.
If you have many rejections that you strongly disagree with, you can contact customer support (in one ticket) with a few links and reasons why you think they should have been approved and we'll try to bring insight into why they were rejected. If we feel the rejection was indeed a mistake, we'll process it accordingly.
With that said, each day, many images get rejected for issues that could have easily been avoided. Here's the top 8 reasons:
- With common subjects like flowers, sunsets, clouds, pets, travel pics (just to name a few), because we already have hundreds of thousands of them in the collection, we are more selective on new submissions. We'll always welcome fresh content to the collection, regardless of the subject, but only if it ads value.
- When shooting isolated objects, make sure to clean the items and background to remove any dust, dirt, marks, sensor spots and check your isolation at 100% to make sure it's not too soft or too rough, or that you missed a spot. Subject should be filling the most part of the image and excessive negative space should be avoided.
- Lighting can make or break an otherwise great image. When shooting outside in natural light, try shooting early in the day or later in the afternoon when the sun is lower and light softer. You can also combine with artificial lighting and or reflectors to fill the shadows. Harsh daylight is rarely flattering to anyone or anything. Also make sure the exposure is appropriate, and that contrast is well balanced. It's important to make sure your monitor is properly calibrated so that you are viewing your images the same way our reviewers are.
- If when viewing your image at 100% it's a bit too soft, you might want to downsize it to bring it back in focus. If it's just too soft, you'll have to move on to another file.
- Make sure your title and description are appropriate and that keywords are fully relevant to what we see in the image, specially if pasting keywords across a series, double check to make sure that all the keywords are relevant to all the images and edit them when it's not the case.
- When uploading large series, please select only the best, most useful shots. Submitting too many versions of the same file/concept or sending too many similar files is bound to lower your acceptance rate. If models are involved, pay close attention to facial expressions, avoiding instances where eyes are half-closed for example or any awkward expression that might limit the files' usability.
- Make sure that all logos and trademarks have been cloned out from the file.
- If you've done some Photoshop work, verify that you haven't forgotten parts of layers, brush strokes and that overall the image looks as if it was one. For composites consider things like the source of light, depth of field and perspective of the different elements so that they all blend in seamlessly and realistically.
By just going through this short list, not only will you increase your approval rate and chances of sales, but you'll be accelerating the reviewing process for everyone including yourself. Hoping you'll find this extra information useful! :)
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A contrary data point regarding sales. Envato is my #4 earner behind Shutterstock, 123RF, and iStock. Pretty impressive for a site I joined just three years ago.
They have been the same for me. About $40 a month with 800 images when I started to $40-$50 a month with 2800 images. I must not be uploading the right stuff.
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Thanks for the introduction Jarel, I'm really happy to have joined Envato! :)
Indeed we are working on many fronts to keep fine tuning the reviewing process and make it as consistent as humanly possible. We're also focusing on having standards evolve to provide content that reflects the latest trends in the industry.
A lot of subjectivity is involved with any kind of art form. And I can assure you our team of reviewers are highly qualified and they'd rather be approving 100% of submissions, it would make their job much easier.
If you have many rejections that you strongly disagree with, you can contact customer support (in one ticket) with a few links and reasons why you think they should have been approved and we'll try to bring insight into why they were rejected. If we feel the rejection was indeed a mistake, we'll process it accordingly.
With that said, each day, many images get rejected for issues that could have easily been avoided. Here's the top 8 reasons:
- With common subjects like flowers, sunsets, clouds, pets, travel pics (just to name a few), because we already have hundreds of thousands of them in the collection, we are more selective on new submissions. We'll always welcome fresh content to the collection, regardless of the subject, but only if it ads value.
- When shooting isolated objects, make sure to clean the items and background to remove any dust, dirt, marks, sensor spots and check your isolation at 100% to make sure it's not too soft or too rough, or that you missed a spot. Subject should be filling the most part of the image and excessive negative space should be avoided.
- Lighting can make or break an otherwise great image. When shooting outside in natural light, try shooting early in the day or later in the afternoon when the sun is lower and light softer. You can also combine with artificial lighting and or reflectors to fill the shadows. Harsh daylight is rarely flattering to anyone or anything. Also make sure the exposure is appropriate, and that contrast is well balanced. It's important to make sure your monitor is properly calibrated so that you are viewing your images the same way our reviewers are.
- If when viewing your image at 100% it's a bit too soft, you might want to downsize it to bring it back in focus. If it's just too soft, you'll have to move on to another file.
- Make sure your title and description are appropriate and that keywords are fully relevant to what we see in the image, specially if pasting keywords across a series, double check to make sure that all the keywords are relevant to all the images and edit them when it's not the case.
- When uploading large series, please select only the best, most useful shots. Submitting too many versions of the same file/concept or sending too many similar files is bound to lower your acceptance rate. If models are involved, pay close attention to facial expressions, avoiding instances where eyes are half-closed for example or any awkward expression that might limit the files' usability.
- Make sure that all logos and trademarks have been cloned out from the file.
- If you've done some Photoshop work, verify that you haven't forgotten parts of layers, brush strokes and that overall the image looks as if it was one. For composites consider things like the source of light, depth of field and perspective of the different elements so that they all blend in seamlessly and realistically.
By just going through this short list, not only will you increase your approval rate and chances of sales, but you'll be accelerating the reviewing process for everyone including yourself. Hoping you'll find this extra information useful! :)
Welcome, gabby. Btw this is very basic advice but probably helpful for those just entering microstock. Hope to see you post here regularly.
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Welcome, gabby. Btw this is very basic advice but probably helpful for those just entering microstock. Hope to see you post here regularly.
Thank you :) Indeed these are really the basics but represent the vast majority of rejections, for both beginners and experienced photographers (some from lack of experience and some simply for going too fast).
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Welcome, gabby. Btw this is very basic advice but probably helpful for those just entering microstock. Hope to see you post here regularly.
Thank you :) Indeed these are really the basics but represent the vast majority of rejections, for both beginners and experienced photographers (some from lack of experience and some simply for going too fast).
Nice suggestions but... "Going too fast" may be a deliberate choice for experienced photographers as a consequence of low royalties - in general, not just at Envato which at 33% isn't even the worst case!
When we are being paid less than 50%, I feel like grabbing all I can while spending very little time.
Rejections are a necessary cost. Quality is a casualty.
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These tips are for those interested in increasing their approval rates. :)
And usually, going too fast ends up wasting time rather then saving some, as time is spent on files that will get rejected.
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I get the odd sale here and there but most rejected in every batch. They seem to major on quality etc and yet I see mediocre, badly shot just just accepted images on their front page. It's just random numbers they are dealing with, not quality. A bit like SS has gone.
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Yeah I would like to upload there but I don't need another Shutterstocksy agency.
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The Photodune website needs a major overhaul, the layout is fine for selling templates but gives a terrible buyer experience if your purchasing images.
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My acceptance rate there is more than to 95%
I have got some "soft rejection" sometime, but after a fix they have been accepted.
Sales are enough poor but regular (I could say "regularly poor…" ;) )
Btw it is so simple to upload and attach the releases on this site that I have no reason to lament about it.
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Acceptance rate has gone through the floor lately - and seem to accept what everyone else rejects. On the other hand easy to upload and sales OK - but no more than that but patchy.
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100% acceptance for 2 years until the last couple of weeks, now 90% rejections! Reviewers need to know what they're doing as I'm not uploading just to pass the time.
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For the last batch or two pretty random for me. But I also get report for all batch so is difficult to know what the "real" reason was.
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The reviews there seem pretty random to me - but they are a low enough seller that I haven't bothered to try to make sense of it. They are fall into the "fire and forget" category for me. Uploads are pretty easy as long as you don't have numbers or long keywords.
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My acceptance rate there is only 55% :(
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100% acceptance for 2 years until the last couple of weeks, now 90% rejections! Reviewers need to know what they're doing as I'm not uploading just to pass the time.
I have a 92-98% acceptance across the board, on Photodune it has dropped to 33%. I have no idea what is going on, but it is not working out for me like this. I always liked Photodune, but it seems they have gotten a bit arrogant in their reviews.
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100% acceptance for 2 years until the last couple of weeks, now 90% rejections! Reviewers need to know what they're doing as I'm not uploading just to pass the time.
I have a 92-98% acceptance across the board, on Photodune it has dropped to 33%. I have no idea what is going on, but it is not working out for me like this. I always liked Photodune, but it seems they have gotten a bit arrogant in their reviews.
Travel images? Studio shots? I do mostly studio shots and have about a 95%+ acceptance.