I have been struggling through the maze of Envato's sites, trying to figure out how to upload and submit something.   I finally got a vector submitted to Graphic River (I think) and it was rejected for "quality" with no clue as to whether they meant quality of the image, or quality of the file.  And, of course, I can't figure out how to ask for clarification.

Can anyone tell me WHAT is selling there that is making such a good earnings rating?

Is it worth the struggle to navigate their site*, and make all the little jpgs, to submit to Graphic River? 

Or are the earnings coming from templates, or videos, or audio, or something else I don't have to submit?

Envato is making me cry, literally.


*I gave up hope of finding my way back to a particular page, and just started bookmarking important pages as I found them.  Envato has its own folder in my bookmark folder.

You're probably right.  I gave Alamy another chance when they moved up the chart, but have not sold anything there.

Y'know what really hurt my feelings?  Envato's rejection letter came with a link to "helpful articles".  These articles were all "how to draw" tutorials.

I've got a fuggin degree in drawing.  I know how to do THAT.  It's the guessing what Envato wants I'm having trouble with.

I'm going to give up on Envato then.  It's so frustrating to think there could be sales over there, if only I could figure out how to get to them.  But, like you say, it's probably just a dirty trick. 

I liked Envato but had to pull my portfolio after they make US citizens pay "their" taxes. They count their share in your MISC 1099. I guess if you aren't in the US, it may be worth a try ...

I left for the same reason. Didn't lose much. Not enough sales to bother with their cr*p.

First Alamy was lost in the top 4....now envato... Who starts the next trip to wonderland? Canstock or Vivozoom?

It's pretty difficult to separate out sales figures from different marketplaces... as you have one account with which you can sell on PhotoDune, VideoHive, Themeforest etc. So some income might be getting reported for stuff that isn't specifically photos or videos.

I know I report everything, including sound effects and 3D models, as well as my VideoHive content... but they're only a very small percentage of my revenue, 90% of my sales are on VideoHive. Although that does include After Effects templates. I guess that muddies the waters slightly.

However, if you have somebody who also sells Wordpress themes then that could skew the figures a bit, as Themeforest is the biggest selling marketplace at Envato, and although they are 'stock' templates, I wouldn't say they quite fall under the banner of 'microstock'.

So there you go. I see that Envato is currently down at 15th at the moment. I've just added my earnings though, so we'll see what difference that makes.

I wouldn't trust the poll for one second since all it takes for something to drop from #4 to #15 seems to be one or two people voting.

Depends on what you're trusting it to do. I trust that it's an accurate portrayal of the data that's entered into it, and I have no reason to believe that the data that is entered into it isn't accurate.

Although, trusting it to give an accurate portrayal of the sales value of certain marketplaces, has and always will be unwise, as you never know how many people are entering data for those sites. A few people doing well on one site might make it appear artificially higher, and likewise a few people doing badly on others might make it seem artificially low... when it's actually pretty good.

To give a bit more weight to the list, it would be interesting to show "from X votes" or something like that.

Its all about SS isn't it while an enormous amount of lower royalty members will vote for FT making them a second. The polls are probably showing the result from lots of smaller portfolios new members and part-timers.

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on September 02, 2016, 00:32

It needs to be split by content type

You can see the sample size by hovering this would make it even less statistically valid its only a rough guide to be treated with caution

You learn something new every day! Well there's 51 samples for Envato which is a lot less than most, but still a reasonable sample size. Looks like most are about 100 with around 150 for the big boys.