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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2019, 04:36 »
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just a side note if searching for similars.
the last one is called dolly cart, not slider

yup, i must be fun at parties :P


« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2019, 16:36 »
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Just a note for others, the Rhino ROV Pro Traveler doesn't seem to do what I need.  With my 5d4 and 100mm macro, the included plastic ball head, and the way the carriage works with the app, I get an unusable shimmy/wiggle when the carriage hits the end of the run.  No matter what the ramp down speed.  The app doesn't let you stop anywhere you like, so it runs, slows down and then ka-thunks into the end of the run.  If you could stop the carriage an inch away, it would probably be solved.

I'm sure it's great with wider lenses where something like that wouldn't be apparent, or when you aren't concerned with the end and just need the middle of the run.

« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2019, 17:47 »
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Just a note for others, the Rhino ROV Pro Traveler doesn't seem to do what I need.  With my 5d4 and 100mm macro, the included plastic ball head, and the way the carriage works with the app, I get an unusable shimmy/wiggle when the carriage hits the end of the run.  No matter what the ramp down speed.  The app doesn't let you stop anywhere you like, so it runs, slows down and then ka-thunks into the end of the run.  If you could stop the carriage an inch away, it would probably be solved.

I'm sure it's great with wider lenses where something like that wouldn't be apparent, or when you aren't concerned with the end and just need the middle of the run.

Sean are you saying that the carriage actually makes physical contact with the end of the slider or is it something else?

Could it be backlash or stiction from a stepper motor combined with carriage design? The reason I ask is because I have had my share of headaches with motion control over the years and have yet to find a reasonably priced system which works well for video in the macro and telephoto range without a lot of stabilization in post. Ramps are where problems are usually the most visible, especially slow ramp downs where the stepper motor "settling" combined with friction loss from the carriage and belt can be very pronounced. I don't know what system the Rhyno uses but a popular and inexpensive motor with many manufacturers is the Nema 17. Stay away from it for video IMO.

Just something to be wary of no matter what system you decide on and good luck.

« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2019, 10:26 »
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Yes, there's an audible ... "clunk"... when it gets to the end.  The ramping up and down is pretty ok, but there's just no way to stop it from going all the way to end.

« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2019, 13:40 »
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@Sean, it is difficult to write this in English, not a native speaker.
I have worked with both older friction and newer bearing versions.
Whatever the employers or my poket provided the given time.
The trick with heavier gear is your hands to hug the head/ballhead
and the same time hands to be attached on the slider bar.
So you actually slide your hands that guide the carrier on the bar.
Good simple option for steady sliding and tracking real time shots.
Tracking with either ballhead or video head that works better.
As a side note, havn't found a portable lightweight model that works "great".
Kind of heavier options, are bulkier but producing rewlly great linear footage.
All those sliders fitting in a backpack, i have this feeling that are designed for phones...

Hope this helps :)

« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2019, 14:17 »
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I ordered the Edelkrome SliderOne V2 with the flex head.  I'll let you know if that works better for my specific situation.  I just wish the slide was longer.

« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2019, 14:40 »
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Ok, I tried out the Edelkrone today, and it is fantastic.  Makes the Rhino seem like a toy.  This thing is a tank, very heavy and heavy duty.  The Flex mount is great too.  Rock solid.  The starts and stops are smooooth, and the app is much better than the Rhino app with the way it allows you to set start and stop points.

« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2019, 17:00 »
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I was hoping you would get back to let us know how you made out. Thank you for sharing this.

Sounds encouraging so far. Have you tested it in the macro/telephoto range yet? 75 percent of what I do calls for close up and extreme close up so if it really turns out to be stable and smooth enough for that then I would pick one up tomorrow.

« Reply #33 on: Yesterday at 06:18 »
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« Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 06:25 »
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Nice video Sean. Am I wrong though or is there some noticeable judder? Could be just the playback on my end.

« Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 06:43 »
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Nice video Sean. Am I wrong though or is there some noticeable judder? Could be just the playback on my end.

Never mind...just downloaded the HD preview. That looks fantastic! Off to Amazon I go.

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« Reply #36 on: Yesterday at 08:22 »
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Being a bit cheeky, I worked for some time to be able to set up an affiliate account for Edelkrone and I've written quite a bit about their DollyOne product. If you are happy to do so, please use my affiliate link...

https://www.backyardsilver.com/2019/04/featured-videomakers-on-edelkrone-blog/

Steve

« Reply #37 on: Yesterday at 09:20 »
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Nice video Sean. Am I wrong though or is there some noticeable judder? Could be just the playback on my end.

I sometimes get that feeling, but I don't know whether it's my mind playing tricks, my computer lagging, or something else or nothing at all.

« Reply #38 on: Yesterday at 10:02 »
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Nice video Sean. Am I wrong though or is there some noticeable judder? Could be just the playback on my end.

I sometimes get that feeling, but I don't know whether it's my mind playing tricks, my computer lagging, or something else or nothing at all.

I noticed your uploaded frame rate was 24 fps. If it is still nagging you maybe to eliminate one of the possibilities do a test at 30 fps and see if you can see a difference.

« Reply #39 on: Yesterday at 10:05 »
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Being a bit cheeky, I worked for some time to be able to set up an affiliate account for Edelkrone and I've written quite a bit about their DollyOne product. If you are happy to do so, please use my affiliate link...

https://www.backyardsilver.com/2019/04/featured-videomakers-on-edelkrone-blog/

Steve

Happy to. Going to hold off for just a bit though to see if Sean comes back with any more info. Will the affiliate link switch to Amazon.ca?

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« Reply #40 on: Yesterday at 11:13 »
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Hi David

Do Edelkrone sell their stuff on Amazon? I've always bought directly from the company. They have a scheme where your purchases are counted against a future discount if you buy something else from them in the future and their shipping has been fast and professional.

Steve

« Reply #41 on: Yesterday at 11:33 »
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Hi David

Do Edelkrone sell their stuff on Amazon? I've always bought directly from the company. They have a scheme where your purchases are counted against a future discount if you buy something else from them in the future and their shipping has been fast and professional.

Steve

Good to know. I'll have a look at their site now and see what their shipping policy is like. A quick search shows that some Edelkrone components are definitely available on the Canadian Amazon site but I do not see the SliderOne, so who knows.

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« Reply #42 on: Yesterday at 11:39 »
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I looked on the US site and there are some used Edelkrone products plus some from resellers. Nothing from Amazon themselves with Prime shipping (which is what I normally use.

Steve


 

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