Author Topic: Adobe Announces the new Photoshop will be subscription only (Read 51373 times)

Xanox · « **Reply #175 on:** May 12, 2013, 02:14 »

Quote from: Dantheman on May 11, 2013, 14:26

Desktops are already dying out. The only real advantage is the power they have and soon even smaller devices will have more than enough processing power for us photographers / designers.
For most of the market, laptops have already replaced desktops!

One thing is for sure, that people who wan't to be productive need a large display, but that doesn't mean that you need a large desktop!

I believe that in the end we'll just have a small device with enough power, that we can easily plug into a larger working space, television etc.

the upcoming next gen of Intel CPUs starts at 3.5ghz with 4 and 8 cores and it's been already overclocked to 7Ghz, this is the range of cpu power you can expect to be the entry level in 2-3 yrs from now.

tablets with ARM cpus are going nowhere in terms of raw power for digital photography, the gap between desktops and mobile cr-ap will become bigger, not smaller, especially when editing big photos shot in 24 or 36MP.

and indeed to make a proper photo editing you need a proper monitor and this is the kiss of death for tablets.

Xanox · « **Reply #176 on:** May 12, 2013, 02:16 »

Quote from: leaf on May 11, 2013, 15:26

It would be nice if we could subscribe to the products we wanted .. pay a little if you only wanted 2 or 3 of the programs and more if you wanted them all.

or you could strike a deal with your local print shop, say 1$ per hour to use PS or 3-4$ per day ?

gillian vann · « **Reply #177 on:** May 12, 2013, 04:16 »

Quote from: Xanox on May 12, 2013, 02:05

Quote from: gillian on May 11, 2013, 22:05
will it also end up like Apple, every time I go into iTunes I have to waste so much time with unwanted updates and whatnot. We can only guess, and I suppose we are all assuming the worst.

of course it will.
it's a public company, they must show growth and profits every quarter to shareholders.
it's the same sh-it seen already in every other SaaS (software as a service) operation.

well that's an exaggeration. I use an online subscription accounting program, no ads or annoying updates. that's cos the accounting world has no clue how the internet works. by comparison, $19.95 for a program like Photoshop Vs accounting software that is rubbish and annoying to use @ $29.95/month.... makes Adobe look v reasonable.

Xanox · « **Reply #178 on:** May 12, 2013, 22:59 »

Quote from: gillian on May 12, 2013, 04:16

well that's an exaggeration. I use an online subscription accounting program, no ads or annoying updates. that's cos the accounting world has no clue how the internet works. by comparison, $19.95 for a program like Photoshop Vs accounting software that is rubbish and annoying to use @ $29.95/month.... makes Adobe look v reasonable.

yeah but it's the norm for accounting and financial software to be very expensive, many softwares used for online trading range from 50 to 3-400$ per month.

one of the best (NinjaTrader) is free but then you must pay for the addons and all.

i mean, these softwares are used by traders to make money, it would not make sense to give them away for free or for a small price, they're also quite complex with scriptings and automations.

maybe Adobe is using the same logic : if you're a pro and you make money with the CS Suite you must pay back something, period.

and if you cant, you're just not a pro, and you better stick with MSPaint or whatever.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #179 on:** June 14, 2013, 14:02 »

Anyone else get a survey request from Adobe? I did (and filled it out) telling them in no uncertain terms how firmly I am not on board with their recent moves. The first screen was something where you promise not to disclose the details of the survey (so I won't).

I would urge anyone who gets the e-mail to complete the survey - perhaps we have their attention and perhaps some good outcome might result if they hear from enough users?

cthoman · « **Reply #180 on:** June 14, 2013, 14:36 »

Quote from: jsnover on June 14, 2013, 14:02

I would urge anyone who gets the e-mail to complete the survey - perhaps we have their attention and perhaps some good outcome might result if they hear from enough users?

Even me? I'm going to say nice things though.

EmberMike · « **Reply #181 on:** June 14, 2013, 15:05 »

I'm still on CS4 and it's fine with me for what I need. I'll upgrade to CS6 in a couple of years when it's nice and cheap and then I'll just use the heck out of that version for the next 10 years. After that, well, I'll figure that out when I get there.

I won't be subscribing to software usage. Just doesn't feel right to me.

VB inc · « **Reply #182 on:** June 14, 2013, 15:16 »

Quote from: EmberMike on June 14, 2013, 15:05

I'm still on CS4 and it's fine with me for what I need. I'll upgrade to CS6 in a couple of years when it's nice and cheap and then I'll just use the heck out of that version for the next 10 years. After that, well, I'll figure that out when I get there.

I won't be subscribing to software usage. Just doesn't feel right to me.

I just tried to install an old cs2 on a new Mac laptop and it wouldn't install saying the new osx won't install programs for power pc for macs which I found ridiculous.
Who knows, in a couple of years, when apple creates another osx, they might make it so that you can't install cs6 on it or some other crap.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #183 on:** June 14, 2013, 15:26 »

Quote from: cthoman on June 14, 2013, 14:36

Quote from: jsnover on June 14, 2013, 14:02
I would urge anyone who gets the e-mail to complete the survey - perhaps we have their attention and perhaps some good outcome might result if they hear from enough users?

Even me? I'm going to say nice things though.

If you've already signed on for CC I'm guessing you won't get the survey, but sure, if you love it and think you always will you should tell them that

cathyslife · « **Reply #184 on:** June 14, 2013, 18:09 »

Quote from: jsnover on June 14, 2013, 14:02

Anyone else get a survey request from Adobe? I did (and filled it out) telling them in no uncertain terms how firmly I am not on board with their recent moves. The first screen was something where you promise not to disclose the details of the survey (so I won't).

I would urge anyone who gets the e-mail to complete the survey - perhaps we have their attention and perhaps some good outcome might result if they hear from enough users?

I have not received that survey but if I do, I will say the same thing as you. Been using Adobe products since PS2 (I am sitting here looking at it on a 3.5" floppy that I now use, along with Illustrator 5.5 floppies, as a five sided plant holder) and will not be joining the creative cloud. They are offering a good deal to students now ($19.99 a month) and that is more than reasonable. The regular price is even more than reasonable for all the programs that you get, but a) I won't use all the programs and b) once they get a substantial number of ~~suckers~~ subscribers to opt in, you know darn well the price will continually rise.

shotupdave · « **Reply #185 on:** June 14, 2013, 18:28 »

Quote from: VB inc on June 14, 2013, 15:16

Quote from: EmberMike on June 14, 2013, 15:05

I'm still on CS4 and it's fine with me for what I need. I'll upgrade to CS6 in a couple of years when it's nice and cheap and then I'll just use the heck out of that version for the next 10 years. After that, well, I'll figure that out when I get there.

I won't be subscribing to software usage. Just doesn't feel right to me.

I just tried to install an old cs2 on a new Mac laptop and it wouldn't install saying the new osx won't install programs for power pc for macs which I found ridiculous.
Who knows, in a couple of years, when apple creates another osx, they might make it so that you can't install cs6 on it or some other crap.

That does not surprise me at all, the old power pc macs were based on a IBM chip not a Intel chip, complete different chip instruction set.

w7lwi · « **Reply #186 on:** June 14, 2013, 18:35 »

Quote from: EmberMike on June 14, 2013, 15:05

I'm still on CS4 and it's fine with me for what I need. I'll upgrade to CS6 in a couple of years when it's nice and cheap and then I'll just use the heck out of that version for the next 10 years. After that, well, I'll figure that out when I get there.

I won't be subscribing to software usage. Just doesn't feel right to me.

I agree on not subscribing. For my own situation, it does not make economic sense. For others it could well be the way to go. Every situation is unique.

As to CS4, I just went through the exercise of upgrading my computer and went with Windows 7 at the same time. What I found was while I could load and activate CS4, I could not download most of the updates, including the RAW update needed to load 5D II files. So I located CS6 on line for $445 delivered (a disc, I don't like downloaded copies). Got it in 2 days, loaded it, added in all the plug-ins I use and all is well. Now I just need to get used to the new locations of the functions I use the most and learn some of the great and wonderful new functions they've added.

You may not wish to wait too long if you are going to upgrade to CS6. You never know what games Adobe may wish to play in their never ending quest to increase profits at our expense.

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