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« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2013, 04:00 »
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I'd like to see all sites handle their partners like Yaymicro do.  They have a page with them all listed and we can opt out of any of them.

Wouldn't it make sense to have a page like that for Pond5 and Pixmac?  I've already sent a few emails to Pond5 in the past and they've removed duplicates but all of us emailing and several 3rd party sites being removed looks like a big admin mess compared to a simple form that makes it easy for everyone to opt out of sites that they already submit to.

This is a big deal for me and I hope Pond5/Pixmac take it seriously.  Never understood why a site like Yaymicro can get it right and other sites make it much more complicated.

Agreed.  YAYmicro is a great example of how to deal with affiliates transparently and effectively.  All affiliate agencies are listed with the following information, along with an opt out button

Webpage: suchandsuch.com
Country: International
Commission to photographer: XX%
Commission YAY get from distributor : XX%
Price level: Microstock
Status: Active
« Last Edit: March 06, 2013, 04:33 by leaf »


« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2013, 04:06 »
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So, if we are already a contributor at pond5 and no account at Pixmac, do we need to open a Pixmac account for the mirroring processing? Because i don' see any advertising or option for opting in,  in the pond 5 menu.

Microbius

« Reply #52 on: March 06, 2013, 04:28 »
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Does this mean pond 5 will start taking vectors directly now? (Pixmac takes them I think but Pond 5 only if they are from a partner site?)

« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2013, 04:44 »
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Conversely, if you have vectors, those can be uploaded at Pixmac but not currently at Pond5 (we're working on this now and should be able to accept vectors at p5 in a few weeks).  Pricing will generally be the same on both sites, although there might be some variations based on different countries / currencies, in which case you would earn 50% of the selling price as well.

That's directly from the source...

Microbius

« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2013, 05:14 »
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Thank for that, interesting

lisafx

« Reply #55 on: March 06, 2013, 11:27 »
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We would handle that individually. So if you have any ports at DP, FP or YAY and you don't want them distributed at Pixmac and Pond5, please contact Lucy at user@pixmac.com to handle that for you. Sorry for confusion.

Thanks for the info Vita.  I have just e-mailed Lucie about this.  I haven't uploaded to Pond5, but believe I have images there through Depositphotos.  I would obviously prefer my images on Pond5 come from Pixmac instead, because it will mean more royalties. 

Very glad you guys will be taking care of this issue. 

WarrenPrice

« Reply #56 on: March 06, 2013, 11:43 »
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What a cluster f*** ... Should not Pond5 be the focal point of questions and answers?  They did purchase Pixmac, right?


« Reply #57 on: March 06, 2013, 12:03 »
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I wrote to Pond5 and they responded quite quickly and thoroughly with all the concerns that I addressed!

Please - anyone who feels that information is missing please write to Pond5 directly.

All that I know at this point is that Pond5 will take over Pixmac and pretty much internalize it so it eventually becomes Pond5 altogether.

As far as I have been informed by Pond5 we will ALWAYS receive 50% on all sites where our content will be sold - which is great.

Furthermore, also as I have been told that prices will also stay the same as they are now at Pond5 (which we can set - also great!).

Opt out will be available (in a few weeks) to all contributors who wish not to be involved in this scheme.

These are the facts I got from Pond5.


lisafx

« Reply #58 on: March 06, 2013, 13:02 »
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What a cluster f*** ... Should not Pond5 be the focal point of questions and answers?  They did purchase Pixmac, right?

Sorry, but perhaps you could define what you mean by clusterf***?    As far as I can see this is the furthest thing from it.  Questions are being answered by admins from both Pond5 and Pixmac in a very timely and thorough way. 

Depending on which site you are currently on, I guess that's who you would be most likely to direct questions to.  I'm on Pixmac, and that's where I read the news, so that's the forum I started the thread in. 

If you don't want to read the answers on this thread or the linked FAQs, then you can contact Pond5 directly.  As you can see by Click's experience above, they are quite willing to take your questions.

Get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning Warren??
« Last Edit: March 06, 2013, 13:04 by lisafx »

WarrenPrice

« Reply #59 on: March 06, 2013, 17:41 »
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What a cluster f*** ... Should not Pond5 be the focal point of questions and answers?  They did purchase Pixmac, right?


Sorry, but perhaps you could define what you mean by clusterf***?    As far as I can see this is the furthest thing from it.  Questions are being answered by admins from both Pond5 and Pixmac in a very timely and thorough way. 

Depending on which site you are currently on, I guess that's who you would be most likely to direct questions to.  I'm on Pixmac, and that's where I read the news, so that's the forum I started the thread in. 

If you don't want to read the answers on this thread or the linked FAQs, then you can contact Pond5 directly.  As you can see by Click's experience above, they are quite willing to take your questions.

Get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning Warren??


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clusterfuck

Doesn't say anything about answering questions.  8)

« Reply #60 on: March 06, 2013, 18:19 »
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I think reading posts #43 through about #48 are a great definition of clusterf$ck. Trying to unravel all the various hands in the pot is a little confusing. Sure, questions are being answered, but this is what happened when partner programs came on the scene. If clusterf$ck is too strong a word, maybe snafu or fubar are preferable.  ;D

lisafx

« Reply #61 on: March 06, 2013, 19:01 »
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Well, I suppose for every silver lining there will always be a few people looking diligently for a dark cloud to go with it.   ::)

@Warren, yeah, I know the accepted meaning of the term clusterf***.  Seems to me if you are going to make baseless accusations you better be prepared to back them up...

With any acquisition there are going to be things that need ironing out.  As long as there is communication from TPTB, and good customer and contributor support for any issues that arise, I can't see how it could be done better. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first merger/buyout I remember for a number of years that actually resulted in HIGHER commissions and better conditions for contributors. 

If you are finding something to be pi$$ed about here, under the best of circumstances, maybe you don't have the stomach for this business anymore. 
« Last Edit: March 06, 2013, 19:04 by lisafx »

« Reply #62 on: March 06, 2013, 20:22 »
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May I jump in with a parachute question so u freely continue what u were dooing..  I would just
like to kindly ask any observer of this post with some extra time to give me an opinion.


Lets say one  never joined  either of up mentioned sites and one day one decides to join pond5

As I recall then it turns that submit process isn't something one would call lovely.


Would it be smart for that one to join Pixmac and uploads portfolio there ?  Is that a lovely place to upload ?


Thanks for your time in advance.



WarrenPrice

« Reply #63 on: March 06, 2013, 20:50 »
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Well, I suppose for every silver lining there will always be a few people looking diligently for a dark cloud to go with it.   ::)

@Warren, yeah, I know the accepted meaning of the term clusterf***.  Seems to me if you are going to make baseless accusations you better be prepared to back them up...

With any acquisition there are going to be things that need ironing out.  As long as there is communication from TPTB, and good customer and contributor support for any issues that arise, I can't see how it could be done better. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first merger/buyout I remember for a number of years that actually resulted in HIGHER commissions and better conditions for contributors. 

If you are finding something to be pi$$ed about here, under the best of circumstances, maybe you don't have the stomach for this business anymore.

Maybe you need to chill, Lisa.  I don't know what accusation I made, based or baseless?  And Pi$$ed off ... where did that come from?  I simply expressed an opinion about something in which I really have very little interest. 

There does seem to be a lot of confusion.  And not just about this sale.  The entire industry is diluted and confusing.  Who is partners with whom.  And how much are we losing by selling thru partners?  And, Zager sold his company.  Why is he assuming the leadership role in this thread?  What is his authority for making reassuring statements?  Is he liable for any false statement about a company that he no longer owns?

Just like me -- I have no images at any of these sites -- Zager does not have a dog in this hunt.

As for YOUR rules.  Is there consequences that I will suffer from refusing to engage in senseless argument?  Hope not.  I don't have the stomach for it.   ;D

RacePhoto

« Reply #64 on: March 06, 2013, 21:04 »
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We would handle that individually. So if you have any ports at DP, FP or YAY and you don't want them distributed at Pixmac and Pond5, please contact Lucy at user@pixmac.com to handle that for you. Sorry for confusion.

Sounds good, but what if I do want everything from DP to be on Pond5 and Pixmac? How do I get it moved over?  :D

Could save some time uploading and keywording if I knew that everything from DP went to the other two. Or does everything on Pixmac go to Pond5? Maybe everything on Pond5 will bridge over to Pixmac?

See where I'm getting confused? How do I control things, without everything being via email requests?

Thanks!


« Reply #66 on: March 07, 2013, 02:00 »
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Quote from: sharpshot
I'd like to see all sites handle their partners like Yaymicro do.  They have a page with them all listed and we can opt out of any of them.

We have a bit more simple, but a list of partners that you can opt-out from. You can find it in My Account > Settings > For contributors


Quote from: RacePhoto
Sounds good, but what if I do want everything from DP to be on Pond5 and Pixmac? How do I get it moved over?

If you have everything at DP, you don't have to care about anything. For now it's not completed, but we are working on a system that will move all content from Pixmac to Pond5 and vice versa. You can consider both sites as one company with two sub-brands (like Fanta and Coca-Cola). Still, considering your royalties, it might make sense to upload directly to either Pixmac (if you have vectors) or Pond5 (if you have just photos). Later in time, the integration of the two sites would be better than it is now.

I have most of my portfolio already on Pixmac, should I go ahead and upload everything to Pond5 as well, or is that not necessary? Thanks in advance.

« Reply #67 on: March 07, 2013, 03:28 »
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Well, I suppose for every silver lining there will always be a few people looking diligently for a dark cloud to go with it.   ::)

@Warren, yeah, I know the accepted meaning of the term clusterf***.  Seems to me if you are going to make baseless accusations you better be prepared to back them up...

With any acquisition there are going to be things that need ironing out.  As long as there is communication from TPTB, and good customer and contributor support for any issues that arise, I can't see how it could be done better. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first merger/buyout I remember for a number of years that actually resulted in HIGHER commissions and better conditions for contributors. 

If you are finding something to be pi$$ed about here, under the best of circumstances, maybe you don't have the stomach for this business anymore.
I agree, this is the best news I have seen here for a long time.  I wish Pond5 could buy all the microstock sites and up commission to 50%.  My only gripe is not having a nice opt out page for 3rd party sites with Pond5 that would make it simple for us and them but they will do it manually with one email.  I've always had a quick response to the emails I've sent them and they have always done what I've asked quickly.  Such a difference to sites that sometimes don't respond at all or send out a condescending cut and paste reply that makes me feel like they have no idea about their own business.

« Reply #68 on: March 07, 2013, 06:34 »
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I have just registered with Pond. I am not on Pixmac. I want to start uploading some content on these sites. Out of the two which has the easiest/quickest upload method.

« Reply #69 on: March 07, 2013, 08:57 »
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I have most of my portfolio already on Pixmac, should I go ahead and upload everything to Pond5 as well, or is that not necessary? Thanks in advance.

Not necessary to do anything. Just the acceptance of new terms is needed.

« Reply #70 on: March 07, 2013, 09:00 »
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I have most of my portfolio already on Pixmac, should I go ahead and upload everything to Pond5 as well, or is that not necessary? Thanks in advance.

Not necessary to do anything. Just the acceptance of new terms is needed.

Thanks, that's great. I already accepted the new terms.

« Reply #71 on: March 07, 2013, 09:44 »
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So, if we are already a contributor at pond5 and no account at Pixmac, do we need to open a Pixmac account for the mirroring processing? Because i don' see any advertising or option for opting in,  in the pond 5 menu.
Please, can someone answer my question??? There is no new terms in Pond 5 site, does it means we must open an account in Pixmac or the files will be mirrored later automatically from Pond 5?

« Reply #72 on: March 07, 2013, 11:22 »
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So, if we are already a contributor at pond5 and no account at Pixmac, do we need to open a Pixmac account for the mirroring processing? Because i don' see any advertising or option for opting in,  in the pond 5 menu.
Please, can someone answer my question??? There is no new terms in Pond 5 site, does it means we must open an account in Pixmac or the files will be mirrored later automatically from Pond 5?

Sorry for the delay Smithore. If you're at Pond5 there's no need to do anything now. The distribution to Pixmac will come later and you'll be informed.

« Reply #73 on: March 07, 2013, 11:36 »
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Thanks you so much Zager.

lisafx

« Reply #74 on: March 07, 2013, 12:05 »
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I have just registered with Pond. I am not on Pixmac. I want to start uploading some content on these sites. Out of the two which has the easiest/quickest upload method.

I've never uploaded to Pond5, so I can't speak to that, but the upload process at Pixmac is easy - no categories necessary, and a decent batch function to assign releases and submit.  Also, reviews have, so far, been within a few days. 


 

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