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Title: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Carl on September 08, 2012, 05:22
I just had my first photo sale on Pond5 (been selling video there for years), and I gotta tell ya, it felt * good to get $7.50 instead of 27 cents!   :)
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: stocker2011 on September 08, 2012, 08:11
Congrats, csproductions. It feels nice to get paid a fair commission.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Smithore on September 08, 2012, 11:49
I've sold also 5 photos this week for a "at last" fair commission, Pond 5 is simply a perfect agency, I pray for its long life and wish they'll stay fair all along.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: mtkang on September 08, 2012, 20:34
I just had my first photo sale on Pond5 (been selling video there for years), and I gotta tell ya, it felt * good to get $7.50 instead of 27 cents!   :)

does it mean the images was sold as $15?
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Carl on September 09, 2012, 04:57
I just had my first photo sale on Pond5 (been selling video there for years), and I gotta tell ya, it felt * good to get $7.50 instead of 27 cents!   :)

does it mean the images was sold as $15?

Yes!
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Dantheman on September 09, 2012, 06:21
At What prices are most of you setting your Images?

Most images seem to be set either at 5$ or 10$.

What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Smithore on September 09, 2012, 06:39
10$ seems to be a good price for most of the cases, 5$ too low for large file.
Don't forget the high prices buyers give for pictures at Istock, contributors usually only got 15-20% !!!
After all, with Pond 5, you are 100% responsible and you can choose the price higher for some rare pictures, that's simply great! YOU are the seller!
Difference between Pond 5 and other agencies is simply like life and death ( I know, death is also a part of life):)

Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: MichaelMiller06 on September 09, 2012, 06:52
"Don't forget the high prices buyers give for pictures at Istock, contributors usually only got 15-20% !!!"

Just to clarify, those royalties are for non-exclusives. Exclusive contributors get 25% - 40% of those high prices.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Dantheman on September 09, 2012, 07:10
10$ seems to be a good price for most of the cases, 5$ too low for large file.
Don't forget the high prices buyers give for pictures at Istock, contributors usually only got 15-20% !!!
After all, with Pond 5, you are 100% responsible and you can choose the price higher for some rare pictures, that's simply great! YOU are the seller!
Difference between Pond 5 and other agencies is simply like life and death ( I know, death is also a part of life):)

Very true.

Now we just need to do our best, that the contributors don't undercut their own prices :)
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: ShadySue on September 09, 2012, 07:11
"Don't forget the high prices buyers give for pictures at Istock, contributors usually only got 15-20% !!!"

Just to clarify, those royalties are for non-exclusives. Exclusive contributors get 25% - 40% of those high prices.
A high of 45% is quoted, so there may be a very few superstars who get that, especially if they didn't spread their media and got RC-shafted when they split them.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Smithore on September 09, 2012, 07:32
Yes, sorry, for Istock, you have to be sticked as an "exclusive one" to get almost the same royalties, but you can not fix the price, they can do that they want, and they do!
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: ruchos on September 09, 2012, 08:05
Just had my first image sale on Pond5 as well!
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Dantheman on September 09, 2012, 08:57
How are you guys managing to add 2 model releases to photos. For me it always only accepts the first release i add :/
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Smithore on September 09, 2012, 09:06
How are you guys managing to add 2 model releases to photos. For me it always only accepts the first release i add :/
I've alas just one solution: create a new files with the releases attached...
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: ruchos on September 09, 2012, 09:11
How are you guys managing to add 2 model releases to photos. For me it always only accepts the first release i add :/
I've alas just one solution: create a new files with the releases attached...

I just stitch them together in Photoshop and save as new files for each combo, and use the combined file. Same as for iStock.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Carl on September 10, 2012, 04:40
At What prices are most of you setting your Images?

Most images seem to be set either at 5$ or 10$.

What are your thoughts?

I think the market will support a price of $15 for the largest size, and smaller sizes priced proportionately, which the P5 system will do automatically.  That's what I'm pricing my material at, and I've stopped uploading to the other sites, which means my material will be sold at a reasonable and fair price (with a reasonable and fair commission) from now on because it will only be available on P5.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Dantheman on September 10, 2012, 05:08
At What prices are most of you setting your Images?

Most images seem to be set either at 5$ or 10$.

What are your thoughts?

I think the market will support a price of $15 for the largest size, and smaller sizes priced proportionately, which the P5 system will do automatically.  That's what I'm pricing my material at, and I've stopped uploading to the other sites, which means my material will be sold at a reasonable and fair price (with a reasonable and fair commission) from now on because it will only be available on P5.

Yes i agree. I started off pricing my better images at $15 and the rest at $10.

Quite a risk you are taking with only uploading to P5 ;)!
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Carl on September 11, 2012, 13:53
Perhaps, but I don't see it as risky.  I see it as just good business.  If I want to get a certain amount for my photos, it doesn't make sense for me to make them available for less on other sites.  Would you agree?
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: HerMajesty on September 11, 2012, 14:02
I priced all my pictures $18 and so far had two sales. I'll definitely upload the rest of my port.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Roadrunner on September 11, 2012, 14:06
HELP!  How does one go about attaching a MR to a photo when uploading?  I can't seem to find a way to upload a release or atach it.  Also, how do we make an image EDITORIAL?

Thanks for your help!!!
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Morphart on September 11, 2012, 17:24
Wow refreshing to hear this! They are a 'leader' in Video sales for me and it seems photos are selling even if fairly new, I'll have a shot upload my most popular images too I guess :)
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: ShadySue on September 11, 2012, 20:01
Perhaps, but I don't see it as risky.  I see it as just good business.  If I want to get a certain amount for my photos, it doesn't make sense for me to make them available for less on other sites.  Would you agree?
In theory, so long as they can pull in enough buyers.
As they already have an existing video buyer base, it could work out well.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: hofhoek on September 12, 2012, 04:19
I wanted to start uploading there too and just noticed I have images there already. Does anyone knows which stocksite hast Pond5 as partner?
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: dirkr on September 12, 2012, 04:31
I wanted to start uploading there too and just noticed I have images there already. Does anyone knows which stocksite hast Pond5 as partner?

123RF. Contact them (Pond5), they will disable your 123RF port for you if you want to sell direct.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Carl on September 12, 2012, 05:17
HELP!  How does one go about attaching a MR to a photo when uploading?  I can't seem to find a way to upload a release or atach it.  Also, how do we make an image EDITORIAL?

Thanks for your help!!!

To attach a MR:
If you're looking at your uploads, click on the "releases" link located to the right of the "New Upload" button.  It will open a list of releases that you've uploaded so far, and you can click on the upload link located above and to the right of that list.

After your new release is uploaded, navigate back to the uploads page.  Click on the pull-down box below the list of your uploaded files.  (This pull-down list is labeled "actions:"

From the pull-down list, choose "Attach release," and choose your release from the pop-up list that will appear.

Choose the files to which you wish to attach the release by clicking the box beside each one.  Or if you want to attach the release to all files in your uploads list, click the box above or below the list to choose all of them.  A check mark will then appear beside all of the files in the list.

Click the "execute" button.  A pop-up window will appear indicating the progress of the operation.  After it's complete, you can close this window.

I don't know of any way to designate material as editorial.  I'm not even sure they accept it.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: hofhoek on September 12, 2012, 06:22
I wanted to start uploading there too and just noticed I have images there already. Does anyone knows which stocksite hast Pond5 as partner?

123RF. Contact them (Pond5), they will disable your 123RF port for you if you want to sell direct.

Thanks! I just sent an email to them. I hope it is possible to delete them gradually. I don't understand the FTP upload very well. Do you have to choose every time for a different ftp. Ftp , ftp 2, ftp3?
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: dirkr on September 12, 2012, 07:03
No, they are just alternative servers. Choose one and keep it.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: HerMajesty on September 12, 2012, 07:31
had anyone worked out how to apply a template to many images at once. Apply video template doesn't work (file xxx is a sound clip error). When I make a sound template it gives me 'this is not a sound clip error'  ;)
Applying the template individually to files in the edit window works fine.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Pond5 Crew on September 13, 2012, 09:48
How are you guys managing to add 2 model releases to photos. For me it always only accepts the first release i add :/

Dantheman, that should not be happening. Could you please describe the browser's behavior or any errors you get and send it in a short e-mail to our customer service at contact@pond5.com. We would like to resolve this. It's already a long process to tag your files, it shouldn't be more complicated than the necessary steps.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Pond5 Crew on September 13, 2012, 09:52
HELP!  How does one go about attaching a MR to a photo when uploading?  I can't seem to find a way to upload a release or atach it.  Also, how do we make an image EDITORIAL?

Thanks for your help!!!



Roadrunner, please check the How do I Upload and Attach a Model or Property Release? knowledge base article at the url http://help.pond5.com/customer/portal/articles/295751 (http://help.pond5.com/customer/portal/articles/295751). It has screenshots for visual reference.

Curator will make the image editorial. So just attach a quick note to the curator writing that a specific image is intended for editorial use.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Pond5 Crew on September 13, 2012, 09:56
had anyone worked out how to apply a template to many images at once. Apply video template doesn't work (file xxx is a sound clip error). When I make a sound template it gives me 'this is not a sound clip error'  ;)
Applying the template individually to files in the edit window works fine.


Apologies, but we don't have templates worked out for images just yet. It is something we are actively working on right now. The workaround is to use CSVs: http://help.pond5.com/customer/portal/articles/625381 (http://help.pond5.com/customer/portal/articles/625381)
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: tab62 on September 13, 2012, 09:59
Does anyone know how long a typical review of uploaded files take? I hope they are not like Veer  8)


Thanks


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Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: HerMajesty on September 21, 2012, 00:22

Apologies, but we don't have templates worked out for images just yet. It is something we are actively working on right now. The workaround is to use CSVs: [url]http://help.pond5.com/customer/portal/articles/625381[/url] ([url]http://help.pond5.com/customer/portal/articles/625381[/url])

So far I have managed to apply the template one-by-one from the edit page. Takes a couple of seconds for each image, so still one of the fastest submission process in the industry.
One more thing that doesn't work for a long time now, for images as well as videos, is the view count. But I'm sure you know about it. ;)
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Microstock Man on September 21, 2012, 02:21
Review has taken about 5 days in my experience. 100% acceptance rate so far. Now just waiting on a sale... :)
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: ClaridgeJ on September 23, 2012, 10:20
HELP!  How does one go about attaching a MR to a photo when uploading?  I can't seem to find a way to upload a release or atach it.  Also, how do we make an image EDITORIAL?

Thanks for your help!!!



Roadrunner, please check the How do I Upload and Attach a Model or Property Release? knowledge base article at the url [url]http://help.pond5.com/customer/portal/articles/295751[/url] ([url]http://help.pond5.com/customer/portal/articles/295751[/url]). It has screenshots for visual reference.

Curator will make the image editorial. So just attach a quick note to the curator writing that a specific image is intended for editorial use.



Good grief!  your uploading system is something else. Attaching MRs is a nightmare. Where does one start?
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Carl on September 24, 2012, 05:56
Actually, I find that attaching releases is easy, quick, and simple, even for attaching multiple releases for photos containing more than one person.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: ClaridgeJ on September 24, 2012, 08:07
Actually, I find that attaching releases is easy, quick, and simple, even for attaching multiple releases for photos containing more than one person.

Glad I got you here!  when I upload images to pond5, I cant see them let alone find them. Do they accept images or is it strictly video?
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Carl on September 25, 2012, 06:19
Until recently, they were strictly a video site, and I've been selling video there for years.  Now that they're selling photos, I'm uploading like there's no tomorrow.  When you go to your "uploads" page, there's a "type" button just below the search field.  If the type is video, that explains why you can't see your photos.  Change it to photos, and voila!
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: ClaridgeJ on September 25, 2012, 06:34
Until recently, they were strictly a video site, and I've been selling video there for years.  Now that they're selling photos, I'm uploading like there's no tomorrow.  When you go to your "uploads" page, there's a "type" button just below the search field.  If the type is video, that explains why you can't see your photos.  Change it to photos, and voila!

Thanks a lot!  do you set your price at 10 dollars? it seems to be the most popular setting?
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Carl on September 25, 2012, 22:28
I'm setting mine at $15 for the largest size, with the price of smaller sizes set proportionately by the system.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: MaZvone on October 01, 2012, 02:41
I have two sales this week  :)
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: ClaridgeJ on October 01, 2012, 08:55
Hi Carl!

Have you checked out their sort order for stills pictures that is?  well I am a bit surprised!  bit of a nightmare actually. I uploaded lots Scientific and sci-fi images, model released and everything and whatever you upload in stills seem to end up on the very last pages, before that is tons and tons of just isolations and lots of really irrelevant material.

Basically they are a video supplier but I am beginning to wonder how long experience they have in picture and sort algorithms?
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: kentannenbaum on October 01, 2012, 10:37
I've also had a few stills sales at Pond5.  Seems like a nice place, well run, etc. 
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: stockastic on October 01, 2012, 11:12
I'm always interested to hear about a new agency that actually makes some sales at a fair price.   

How smooth is the keyword/title/description process?  If it doesn't  read and accept the IPTC just about as-is, that's a non-starter for me.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: ClaridgeJ on October 01, 2012, 12:54
I'm always interested to hear about a new agency that actually makes some sales at a fair price.   

How smooth is the keyword/title/description process?  If it doesn't  read and accept the IPTC just about as-is, that's a non-starter for me.

Yes! so was I. heard some very good things about them so ofcourse I joined, only to find out from the community forum: the default search is all screwed up and changed in favour of new artists, the moneymaking pics are pushed aside and all in favour of giving others a chance.
Must say I have never heard such drivel in all my life. Its supposed to be a business not a charity. :-\
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: cascoly on October 01, 2012, 18:45
   

How smooth is the keyword/title/description process?  If it doesn't  read and accept the IPTC just about as-is, that's a non-starter for me.

clean and smooth -- for a batch i just set a price and submit to curator - all the IPTC comes through fine
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: dacasdo on October 01, 2012, 19:36
For me the most im selling through them is illustration.  They pay really good for each sale.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: DC on October 21, 2012, 13:46
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clean and smooth -- for a batch i just set a price and submit to curator - all the IPTC comes through fine

All of my IPTC data comes through in lowercase so I have to manually edit the title and description.  Is that just me?

Also, the city and country come through blank even though I include those as well.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: click_click on October 21, 2012, 15:15
All of my IPTC data comes through in lowercase so I have to manually edit the title and description.  Is that just me?...

I have the same problem. Very annoying.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on October 21, 2012, 15:50
All of my IPTC data comes through in lowercase so I have to manually edit the title and description.  Is that just me?...

I have the same problem. Very annoying.

However annoying, in the end search engines are case-insensitive, so I'd just leave in lowercase (manual editing defeats the purpose of using IPTC to save time).
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Snufkin on October 21, 2012, 16:04
All of my IPTC data comes through in lowercase so I have to manually edit the title and description.  Is that just me?...

I have the same problem. Very annoying.

Yeah, it sucks especially if one has place names in descriptions.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: click_click on October 21, 2012, 16:14
All of my IPTC data comes through in lowercase so I have to manually edit the title and description.  Is that just me?...

I have the same problem. Very annoying.

However annoying, in the end search engines are case-insensitive, so I'd just leave in lowercase (manual editing defeats the purpose of using IPTC to save time).
Yes, you are correct and in a pragmatic way it does not matter.

However, with my OCD and trying to present my stuff nicely I just don't like the looks of city names or other terms all in lower cases.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Carl on October 22, 2012, 07:10
Not me.  I have enough to do without putting upper case where it belongs.  As long as it shows up in the search engine, I'm good.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Mantis on October 22, 2012, 17:13
Not me.  I have enough to do without putting upper case where it belongs.  As long as it shows up in the search engine, I'm good.

How long have you been with them? Did it take months for a sale or are you seeing fairly regular sales?
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Smithore on October 23, 2012, 04:08
I confess I'm a little bit worried about photo sales at Pond5, the first 2 weeks I've sold some files, but this month nothing at all, only video.
How are you doing there???
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: etienjones on October 23, 2012, 05:11
Had my one complimentary sale within the first week of uploading, then nothing . . . .
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Mantis on October 23, 2012, 07:45
I am not on Pond5 but am looking for my 11th site for which to upload.  I wasted my time with Stock Fresh and just don't want to wast time on the lower tiers if dormancy if my ROI.  Sounds like a no win.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: MicrostockExp on October 23, 2012, 10:39
400 pictures up no sales so far...
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: CD123 on October 23, 2012, 15:06
To be positioned between 123RF and Canstock someone must be making money from it? Or do you think it is perhaps just the few fortunate ones making more than one sale pushing it up with the pricing being so high, it only looks like it is a good seller?
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Carl on October 24, 2012, 02:14
I think it will take some time for buyers to realize the presence and availability of still photos on P5.  I've only had a few sales, but I'm optimistic, and I think eventually sales will pick up.
Title: Re: First Sale on Pond5
Post by: Poncke on October 24, 2012, 11:54
I think it will take some time for buyers to realize the presence and availability of still photos on P5.  I've only had a few sales, but I'm optimistic, and I think eventually sales will pick up.

What I dont get is that they already have 8 mil photos online. But the whole site is geared towards videos and sound fx. Photo support is very limited and quite complicated to edit.