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« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2016, 09:50 »
The ability to offer everything, from superhigh quality to cheap stuff for bloggers or people who just have fun making clips was the biggest attraction of pond5.

If they now want to become an elitist site and reject a lot of our uploads, then this is a very significant change in direction.

It s a pitty their original marketplace system was brilliant. All it needed was one or two talented editors that go through it all and select great content for every budget.

Plus give the customer the option to subscribe to galleries and collections.

At the same time treat us as entrepreneurs and stay out of the individual portfolio.

I havent had a single sale on pond5 this month. I dont get downloads every day, but it seems like a long stretch.

But I dont know if it can be blamed on the new system.

Well, P5 wanted investors to help them grow, so now they got to play by greedy Wall St rules.   8)
« Last Edit: March 13, 2016, 10:07 by KnowYourOnions »

« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2016, 15:29 »
Well if prices are low then authors get less per clip and Envato get less per clip. I'm on about total revenue though.

As for a low number of clips overall, that's a very valid point. Envato do seem to be heading in the right direction when it comes to prices though, as they've gradually been increasing over time. There was a post from the Envato forums that somebody linked to the other day where some guy was getting 25% per sale on a $4 HD clip. So $1. That was back in 2011. They're now paying 36% per sale (50 to 70% for exclusive), and HD clips are now $8 ($9 for over 30 seconds and $10 for over 60 seconds). So that's $2.88

Still not much, but a big increase on what authors were getting five years ago. Number of clips are increasing pretty rapidly as well, but I can never see them reaching the likes of Pond5. Footage and motion graphics do seem to be quite secondary to After Effects projects, so I can understand it not being the go to place for stock buyers/shooters. I still feel that most people should be looking at three things when it comes to uploading tot a site or not... how much the clips are priced at, what percentage the author gets and how many sales the author gets, or is likely to get. A great result on all three of those is the holy grail, but I've not found it yet.

I mean, $300 a clip is great, but not if you're getting 1% a sale... and 100% a sale is great, but not if you're not getting any sales.

Your stuff is cool. It's a pity that you sell it so cheap.
If I want to buy your stuff and I found it in a place for 8 bucks, I will not buy it where is more expensive. But if I can only find it a bit more expensive then I'll pay for the stuff I need.

« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2016, 04:59 »
Good point by Robert Jung here.


Robert Jung:
I wonder if he was ever forced to sell artwork for 20$ and have a broadcast license attached to it.

Timo Hensen:
no one is forcing you..

Robert Jung:
You are right! that's why I priced my material higher than average. unfortunately, it has quite an impact on my sales. what would force the starving artist is simply the competition. if pond5 would adjust its license so you can price a limited license at 20$ and licenses with broader coverage could be priced beyond the 100-500 range. truly a shame. I've since then moved to other marketplaces.

« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2016, 06:20 »
i set my 4k clips between 180 and 220 $ and i got sales. if anyone needs your clips they will pay for it. lets not reduce the video market to what photo market has become

« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2016, 21:42 »
That's too low.  Buyers who want 4k video will pay $120+ easily.  4k files sell for about $200 on other sites. 


« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2016, 22:09 »
The 4K market is still very new.
HD1080p has yet to go the way of SD NTSC and PAL.
There is plenty of time before we start the 4K dive to the bottom.

Be proud of your work. Price your 4K at $199 or more. If you have quality work you will have sales at that price.


« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2016, 22:55 »
The fact that someone is even posting this question is 100% Pond5's fault.

I posted this last year, and while I haven't checked recently I suspect it hasn't changed by much. This is what P5 shows contributors when they go to set the price of an upload:

HD clips: $43.60 (all), $59.80 (best-selling)
4K clips: $50.30 (all), $80.30 (best-selling)


« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2016, 02:44 »
I usually set it to 250/85 (4K/HD). Buyers don't seem to mind that.

« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2016, 03:08 »
The fact that someone is even posting this question is 100% Pond5's fault.

I posted this last year, and while I haven't checked recently I suspect it hasn't changed by much. This is what P5 shows contributors when they go to set the price of an upload:

HD clips: $43.60 (all), $59.80 (best-selling)
4K clips: $50.30 (all), $80.30 (best-selling)



« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2016, 06:35 »
Hi, my first batch of my footages of 160 clips just have been approve... but no sales at all for almost 2 weeks.

I set my 4k video price for about 60-85$ because I don't want to undercut my price with other agencies such as ss, fotolia, anf 123rf.

So I wonder that is my price is too high?

Any suggestions and comment will be appreciate, thanks.

ps. by the way my footage are animations (motion graphic).

Nobody can really answer that without seeing your footage - I find that I get regular 4K sales priced at $149 per clip, but that doesn't mean that everyone will - sales depend really on the strength of your content. If its simple animations then maybe its too much - if its decent quality, maybe too little. Samples will assist the discussion.


« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2016, 06:50 »
My advice on setting prices is to get some business plan software or do same on paper, fill it all out and include everything including profit that you need to make, all costs and expenses including taxes, insurance, health care, every little expense including paper clips and of course the cost of replacing your gear when it comes to end of life cycle and then you will know what you need to charge for the product you are producing and selling and anything less is a road to bankruptcy.

Many on Pond5 are getting $399 per 4K clip, before all sales stopped in March but that's what it was selling for. 


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