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« Reply #75 on: March 28, 2019, 08:49 »
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OK I am a small and I mean small business, if I need video I pay for it!


swisschocolate

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« Reply #76 on: March 28, 2019, 08:57 »
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OK I am a small and I mean small business, if I need video I pay for it!

(I was actually always wondering why you do this :D since you have your own great library :) )

What about those who doesn't want to become videoproducers first, who actually doing other business like selling apparel or home decor or diet plans? They use stock photos now. And they will need to tell video stories too, and a lot.

« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2019, 09:07 »
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They sure will and that is why sites like Pond5 has different pricing levels for each clip! I doubt they would need 4k, I am fine with the $30 web pricing they had to help that market. Point is businesses will pay for video, it is part of their advertising cost to do business. I have done over 400 commercials for yelp, Zillow, YP and others. In talking with these owners I know that they will be happy to purchase the clips they need. Most of the time they hire someone to do that and stock is priced within the budget they get.

« Reply #78 on: March 28, 2019, 10:33 »
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I am going a total different route.

Although I am the optimist newbie around here,
on this I am kind of pessimist:
No roads, routes or paths at all.
There is only one rail track one way straight to oversaturation, new technologies and techniques.
We just choose trains or wagons hoping to jump off with no losses before the end of the tracks.
Sometimes we need to adopt, but I don't forget that 2015 I had to drop anything I knew and change career.

Nevertheless, good luck to you and of course to everyone of us, after all, we all try our best on this.

:)

@jjneff, thank you for the explanation on the CSV.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2019, 10:36 by georgep7 »

« Reply #79 on: March 28, 2019, 11:45 »
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Happy to help with the CSV!!

« Reply #80 on: March 29, 2019, 02:30 »
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I opened a second exclusive account, but also wrote to pond5 asking for written confirmation that I can keep both accounts, can keep submitting elsewhere in the industry and that I have no intention of deleting my other content elsewhere.

Basically I need a confirmation that exclusivity is limited to that account only or I will be in violation of their exclusive contract and what I signed right from the start.

They should update the language of their contract to reflect the reality of what they want.

Now I need to ask stockperformer to allow me to track two accounts for pond5...

« Reply #81 on: April 04, 2019, 03:37 »
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For those who don't know how to handle with 2 accounts, here is the official (very clear) response to my question:

"Thank you for reaching out. We will continue to look to our artist community for input on how we can best accomplish our mission to help you earn more.

If you enroll, Exclusivity will apply to all video content on your account without exception. While the best way for you to preserve the value of your work and receive the most benefit is to become a Pond5 Exclusive Video Artist, if you wish to have only selected content (especially new content) listed exclusively with Pond5, you can do so by creating a second account.

The new Exclusive account will benefit from the higher royalty rate (starting April 8).

Please note that once you create your new account, you will need to go through ID verification, enroll it in the Video Exclusivity Program by going to the Exclusive Program page, upload, and submit your own content, exactly as though you were creating a new Artist account. This way you can manage your accounts and keep one Exclusive, and one Non-Exclusive, with different policies and payouts in the Contributor agreement.

Please understand these accounts must be created and managed by you, as we do not have the tools and bandwidth to manage or transfer clips between your accounts. For more insight, every topic regarding our Artists can always be found in our Contributor Portal.

We hope this appropriately addresses your questions. Please continue to reach out to us with any additional feedback or questions about this program.

Kind regards",

« Reply #82 on: April 04, 2019, 03:49 »
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This duplicate account seems like a very dirty temporary fix.

Why don't they implement a button that you can use to tick for exclusive files like some agencies do, and what will happen to all these duplicate accounts if they do? You'd then have to re-upload all your work on one account and lose your sales history?

« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2019, 04:11 »
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This duplicate account seems like a very dirty temporary fix.

Perhaps not. This way assure that older clips, already used in commercial work or just spread around the web will be excluded from exclusive library.

« Reply #84 on: April 04, 2019, 04:21 »
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This duplicate account seems like a very dirty temporary fix.
Disagree.
In the beginning I was thinking like you, but I changed my mind.
There are advantages to have separate accounts.:
- separate ftp and upload streams. I'm sure to make errors if I have to check some files like exclusive, some not.
- stats. Immediatelly I can see exclusive and not-exclusive earnings. Combined earnings will be in the same Paypal account
- immediat and costless solution for Pond. That prove they are reactive, intelligent and listen to us - rather rare these days.
- if one day I change my mind I will only have to close one account without handling with separate files

« Reply #85 on: April 04, 2019, 15:22 »
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All an agency needs to do is give their contributors a royalty raise.
Then the exclusive/non exclusive argument would be a mute point.

The first agency to do such a thing would cause massive waves throughout our industry.

« Reply #86 on: April 04, 2019, 16:13 »
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All an agency needs to do is give their contributors a royalty raise.
Then the exclusive/non exclusive argument would be a mute point.

The first agency to do such a thing would cause massive waves throughout our industry.

Disagree. Pond5 gave a royalty rate raise right from the beginning offering 50% and most everyone still uploaded everywhere. Even to those places with a MUCH lower royalty rate.

« Reply #87 on: April 04, 2019, 16:48 »
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All an agency needs to do is give their contributors a royalty raise.
Then the exclusive/non exclusive argument would be a mute point.

The first agency to do such a thing would cause massive waves throughout our industry.

Disagree. Pond5 gave a royalty rate raise right from the beginning offering 50% and most everyone still uploaded everywhere. Even to those places with a MUCH lower royalty rate.

and everyone earned more money with no thoughts of being exclusive!

« Reply #88 on: April 04, 2019, 17:20 »
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All an agency needs to do is give their contributors a royalty raise.
Then the exclusive/non exclusive argument would be a mute point.

The first agency to do such a thing would cause massive waves throughout our industry.

Disagree. Pond5 gave a royalty rate raise right from the beginning offering 50% and most everyone still uploaded everywhere. Even to those places with a MUCH lower royalty rate.

and everyone earned more money with no thoughts of being exclusive!

and now Shutterstock is selling video licenses where contributors get $1.50! Getty sells video licenses where contributors get .60 cents or less. It's time for a change.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2019, 17:22 by stockmn »

« Reply #89 on: April 06, 2019, 01:13 »
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So, I got the "your account have become exclusive... etc. etc." email

I rushed to login and see my profile,

expected some fireworks,
big labels and arrows "EXCLUSIVE" all around,
my handheld and unbalanced color clips somehow magically  corrected
social media flooded from my decision, debates and admiration,
first place of my clips in Google search results,
clients bringing down Pond5 site to grab a piece of my work
my wife expecting me with some champagne
my friends asking fro autographs
my coworkers surrounding me for advice
tv channels calling for an exclusive interview
OB vans outside of my house
Brands requesting a high payed video session with me
Youtubers and forums spreading my name all over
Adobe offering me the whole suite for free for life
Canon sending me a C300 with all accessories
employers calling with high priced position offers
bank calls asking me to direct PayPal cash in a privileged account
hundreds of LinkeinIn connect requests
A courier delivering a "Pond5 exclusive Artist" golden plate...
(ok, I can continue this list forever...)
....

Nothing.

Just a typical Saturday.

At least let's hope for sales and better royalties.
Good luck to all of us, exclusive or non.

=)
« Last Edit: April 06, 2019, 02:18 by georgep7 »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #90 on: April 06, 2019, 09:48 »
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All an agency needs to do is give their contributors a royalty raise.
Then the exclusive/non exclusive argument would be a mute point.

The first agency to do such a thing would cause massive waves throughout our industry.

Disagree. Pond5 gave a royalty rate raise right from the beginning offering 50% and most everyone still uploaded everywhere. Even to those places with a MUCH lower royalty rate.

Excellent Point!

This duplicate account seems like a very dirty temporary fix.

Why don't they implement a button that you can use to tick for exclusive files like some agencies do, and what will happen to all these duplicate accounts if they do? You'd then have to re-upload all your work on one account and lose your sales history?

From reading here and elsewhere apparently the answer is, they couldn't do that with one account, very easily, so they created the two account system. Has to do with software, commissions, accounting, kind of things not just something easy like buyers interface or uploading.

Also, wait and see, they claim to be promoting the exclusive content feature and works. Which would mean, instead of account based, they would have had to go image based.

Simple answer is, there wasn't a simple answer like add a button and magically you would have everything mixed, exclusive, non, commissions, promotions and all that, into one account.

Easy way, some people will be creating a new Exclusive account, which we can track against the old account. That sounds easy? Or in my case, I deleted everything from everywhere else and now I have an Exclusive account. Should I change my mind, I create an open account. But from my viewpoint, we have better control, and division means clean cut statistics to evaluate if the exclusive is a better idea or a waste of time. People can also choose what's new and where it goes to market.

I like the offer of 60% at an active site, over $1.50 or 15% at someplace where I'm buried. Don't look I'm hardly a video contributor, but I am "exclusive" !  ;D

I plan on working at some better efforts in the near future and 60% is a nice incentive.

« Reply #91 on: April 08, 2019, 11:04 »
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Nice,

I never had my own red-black X.

Ok, ego satisfied.

Let's see how sales will go.
Assuming this is the start of this new service, with minimum entrance,
guess that is the best chance for us newbies to be seen and sold.

*, i should have carried a tripod with me all those years.
Two external drives of handheld to comp!etely shaky footage.

Anyway, that's what I got for the time being.

Plus my big (actually tiny) red black X!

:D :D :D
« Last Edit: April 08, 2019, 11:08 by georgep7 »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #92 on: April 08, 2019, 13:40 »
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Nice,

I never had my own red-black X.

Ok, ego satisfied.

Let's see how sales will go.
Assuming this is the start of this new service, with minimum entrance,
guess that is the best chance for us newbies to be seen and sold.

*, i should have carried a tripod with me all those years.
Two external drives of handheld to comp!etely shaky footage.

Anyway, that's what I got for the time being.

Plus my big (actually tiny) red black X!

:D :D :D

We get an X for being Exclusive? I didn't know that. I'm thinking of a name tag or shirt so I can impress friends. "Pond5 Exclusive Content Provider" they don't have to know, I did that, not the agency?  ;D


 

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