May I ask how much did you upload in that time frame?

Did the drop happen inspite of steady uploads?

Did your sales increase elsewhere - adobe, shutterstock, blackbox?

I wonder how much pond5 is being advertised these days or if all the focus is on Shutterstock.

May I ask how much did you upload in that time frame?

I create about 500-700 new assets per year, mostly video.  In 2024, I added 701 assets to P5.

Did the drop happen inspite of steady uploads?

Yes.

Did your sales increase elsewhere - adobe, shutterstock, blackbox?

I do plan on making these charts for myself soon.  If you want to see them, let me know.  But an early glance at my data may show Adobe's chart looking the most promising.

...perhaps Adobe will see an uptick in sales if more former p5 exclusive content comes their way.

I'll be trying to do my part...   

Technically there's that 180 day P5 lockout before previously Exclusive assets can be uploaded elsewhere.  I've already started slowly adding some new video to Adobe - but their footage reviewing seems very slow.   

Adobe doesn't accept editorial which makes up a significant portion of my P5 Excl videos so unfortunately those won't get sent to Adobe.

So any sales upticks at Adobe due to previous P5 Excl assets coming over may take many months and possibly not noticeable when spread out over time. 

 Happy New Year!

RPD  and total DL aren't really useful for comparing agencies

my RPD for AS is twice that of SS yet SS income is consistently about 20% greater than AS (which is what matters in the end)

meanwhile SS DL are 1.5 to twice as many AS, but not reflected in $

so both RPD & DL are misleading as indicators of success, which also makes the AS weekly ranking merely bragging rights

For me the peak "video boom" was bout 2018 or so then downhill from there.

All agencies sold well and for good prices at that point.  Since then massive price cuts combined with market saturation drove it to penny stock again.

2018 SS my video portfolio was 10% the size of my images but earned about 30% more than images every month.  That was of course before the percentage pricing, cheaper packages, subscriptions and level cuts.

P5 my income is down about 50% since that time period on average.  AS however is stable.

This is a smallish video port of around 2,000 clips.

RPD  and total DL aren't really useful for comparing agencies

my RPD for AS is twice that of SS yet SS income is consistently about 20% greater than AS (which is what matters in the end)

meanwhile SS DL are 1.5 to twice as many AS, but not reflected in $

so both RPD & DL are misleading as indicators of success, which also makes the AS weekly ranking merely bragging rights

Yes, the AS weekly and lifetime are variable and unreliable, not just because they might be DLs only, but comparing, people have different numbers for the same DLs and lower numbers for more DLs. It's terribly flawed. But nice for bragging rights, which never paid for anything.

RPD, it would be good if someone is comparing similar systems. The problem is just what you say. My RPD on Alamy, to go for one extreme, was $48.83 last year. Being fair, two DLs were around $140 each. If I only use what I consider microstock sites: in order of earnings for the year =

AS  00.88
SS  00.65
WS 00.44
iS   00.47
DT  00.38

In my case, AS is better in all respects. No one can decide based on someone else's images and content. I only have video on Pond5, I don't have Editorial on Adobe. Some of my best images on Adobe are not acceptable on SS. DT takes everything, the same images that are on SS and AS.

It just happens that sorted by DLs, AS is double SS, SS is double WS, IS is double DT. WS earned half of what SS paid, but the RPD is close to 2/3rds.

The only stat that matters is $$$ per year. 



OK a nice bunch of numbers, but AS earns me 3X more in DOLLARS than SS makes me and that's what we spend, not RPD or DLs. RPD doesn't show that. And counting DLs doesn't work either.

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This is a smallish video port of around 2,000 clips.

Is your video port comprised of HD, 4K or a combination of both?

Probably 80% 4k, the rest HD with a handful 720p.  That said, when stats where available and where they still are elsewher, 95% sales are HD resolution.

Thanks for your response. And, do you feel the upgrade was worth
the investment in new equipment? When you find a scene that you
think is worth shooting do you shoot both 4K and HD and submit
both formats? It sounds like your only real success is HD with only
5% sales in 4K. I'm still struggling with buying new equipment,
especially now that agencies have made it a "penny hobby".
 

I didnt really upgrade for that reason, it was time to upgrade my (mainly still photography) kit and at this point everything does 4k anyway.  All the drones, phones, mirrorless and action cams.

So effectively the "upgrade" was free. 

I wouldnt say its worth upgrading to 4k specifically to make 4k videos though.  That wouldnt be good value.  The vast majority of sales are still HD (Blackbox mentions similar in its FAQs).

Just from comments like yours and so many others here, it seems that HD is alive and well, which supports your opinion that, upgrading just for the sake of making 4k is not necessary.

On my side of that, even if I have 4k available, I'm working back into the old backups, that I never edited or uploaded, because I skipped video, and now the older scenes and ideas, aren't DOA. I've been saving some new as FullHD instead of bothering to make them 4k.

I thought somebody might find this interesting. I primarily produce videos with a portfolio pushing 14, 000 clips on P5, but have around 7, 000 images on various agencies. To give the graph some meaning my peak sales year was 2018 with sales of approx $40, 000

That is VERY interesting, thank you very much. Very fascinating how Adobe is growing their video sales, but also istock is not to be ignored. Also looks like mostly customers migrated from SS to other places as there is no real rise in total sales.

I am gobbling up all real info I can find.

And every day I do test searches for video. It is crazy how much easy to shoot stuff has never been done.

Yes- I would be in a world of hurt if I hadn't started uploading to Adobe. I quit uploading to iStock for a while as i loathe their low commission rates and cheap sales, but with the massive fall of SS it has helped cushion the blow

All agencies i know of specifically ban uploading the same shoot in different resolutions.